/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>38265182
Anyone who still stay after cold chicken would most probably stay with her through this. Most people outside of here are more happy about her MV, DQT collab and the fact she can live alone now

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

As someone who usually watches vshojo and tries to talk shit about holofags I always thought that they were the worse when it comes to corporate bootlicking but nijisanji fans are on a whole other level.

nijinigger already posting some holo doxx on catalog

GRIM

>catalog has a bunch of holodox
i'm guessing something happened again no?

>>38265121
>The shitposting squad are the same squad as the niji intern squad which is why the shitposting dies down when the riku bootlicking starts.
Really makes me think.
>>38265292
Surprised they changed ip that fast considering they usually eat their 3 day ban.

>>38265266
>Vshojo fan talking about corporate bootlickers
You are not one to talk

>>38265292
Dumbass that is the weekly Noel dox thread to bait shitposters and mass ban them

>>38265266
qrd?

>>38265332
>Surprised they changed ip that fast considering they usually eat their 3 day ban.
Just shows how desperate they're getting.

>>38265182
unicorns are part of her fans anon, they were pretty clear when pekora asked them about male collabs like a year ago. There's no much shit around this because it's within the unicorn boundary unlike towa/lap/kronii/etc case

>>38265266
What happen now?

>IRyS New Years outfit in January
>IRyS 3D and 3D Live for her birthday and Holofes in March
>IRyS anniversary in July
>IRyS 1 million celebration and wish sometime 2023
2023 will be IRyS's year and she will give HoloEN some hope and salvation. Trust the plan.

>>38265333
Saying that its ok for an employee to die because she didnt earn enough money for the company is something on another level.

>>38265266
>Vshojo
You have no leg to stand on.

>>38265342
kek, devilish. It'«s the September 2022 one tho, old material?

Where Vesper his break should have ended today.

>>38265361
"unicorns" is a meme and a bad one at it, bordering "commie" or "nazi" in modern parlance, with in all of these there case being
>people I don't like and in which I project all of the bad characteristics of the most exaggerated depiction of their namesake

>>38265351
>>38265378
Some nijisanji fan was saying in the previous thread that it was somehow ok for one of their employees to die because she didnt earn enough for the company. I know you holofags love to suck Yagoo's cock even with how dumb cover management is but sucking Riku cock is like a whole other level of bootlicking.

>>38265450
he found not streaming and still getting paid actually quite a treat

>>38264923
Pekora truly is a hero to children.

So nijisanji can't play DQ anymore.....

>>38265266
holofags mostly bootlicks the girls and believe they can do no wrong, especially the twitter/reddit audience. though this happens not exclusively with holos but more of a loud western casual audience thing that genuinely believes their opinion matters because they watched a couple of clips 8 months ago.

Do you think HoloEN has some sort of verification diseases?
>Alban collab with Blue Homo
suddenly become the runt of his gen
>Selen collab with multiple Holos then her CCV get cutting off

Luxiem's decline continues with asoul's homo group finally getting their own viral moment. Chink sisters are literally wetting their underwears now. Their comments are all pretty much 'a smile that will melt any woman's heart', 'he is fucking hot and handsome.' Yes, it is a face reveal stream and turns out his live2d model is exactly the same appearance.

Alright, I'll throw you my numbers
I'm currently running my i7 3770 with 45-60 °C temperature on idle.
Is it normal or should I repaste my cpu again?

>>38265555
they can cope with genshin

>>38265225
careful pegora the ojisan will grope you! oh no she can't hear us because she's been hypnotized!

>>38265583
>face reveal stream
God I hate the Chinese.

>>38265266
>$11m funding
>shit animation
imagine not saying anything against gonerun

Holotrash are just scared cause they know wave 7 about to be unleashed and is going to mog tempus so their acting dumber than usually.

>>38265559
I know but i just cant understand how nijisanji fans can bootlick riku and the company in the previous thread.

>>38265450
Stop thinking about homos

>>38265591
change the thermal paste

>>38265361
>unicorns are part of her fans anon
The only and only one Holo who has unironic unicorns in her fanbase is PPT.

>>38265591
>45-60 °C temperature on idle.
>Is it normal or should I repaste my cpu again?
No downside on repasting.

I used to do video conversion on an old laptop with a beefed up intel CPU (some 10 years ago) and it was specced to 110ºC.
I ran it for hours at end at literal 100ºC, disabling all throttling and downshifting to speed the damn thing up. It lasted me long enough to run that little operation on it for some five years until I made enough money to replace it

I don't know if what I hear now is tinnitus or the ghost high pitched noise the cooling fans made

>>38265662
Mogging Tempus is not a great feats

>>38265616
>genshin
anon... mysta... he might have caused another genshin drama again...

>>38265512
Yeah dude, I'm sure that was a real nijinigger.
Why are you faggots so fucking gullible? It's like you'll believe literally anything as long as it makes Nijisanji look worse.

>Takes into consideration what her fans want to see
>Attentive of others schedules
>Avoids any conflict
>Teases her fans and brought life to her clipping scene
>Wants to give EN content to enjoy for most of the week
The princess of EN

I think Vesper problem is related to his manager.
Still no frame or planned return stream until Cover find the replacement of his new manager to monitor his stream

>>38265662
>and is going to mog tempus
That's a no win situation for Nijis, like fighting a drunk hobo

If you beat a drunk hobo people will say
>WTF man, don't you have morals? Beating a drunk hobo!
If you get beaten you will get mocked
>HAHA, you got your ass kicked by a drunken hobo!

Actually Luxiem might have killed all NijiEN waves after them. Any wave not living up to the Luxiem hype and heights will be mocked even if they don't underperform what is expected for NIjis

my unwell wife...

>>38265750
cope

>>38265708
Wait what now?

>>38265266
The absolute audacity of this fag. VShojo is a corporation btw, no matter how much you people cope about it.

>>38265667
Holofags mainly are retards for the girls, because Hololive plays into the idol formula, which means (You) get invested into the girls.
On the other hand, since Niji just promotes variety stuff, unless you play into the audience, like some of their chuubas, there isn't anything for (You) to invest into besides the company.

>>38265781
maybe she should start ditching all those species and improve herself

>>38265713
> It's like you'll believe literally anything as long as it makes Nijisanji look worse.
>>38264309
>>38264957
>>38264738
>>38265004
But his posts were defending nijisanjis actions though? And its not like its a 1 time thing Ive seen that guy pop up whenever someone tries to shit on nijisanjis management decisions.

>>38265662
>mog tempus
Pls do so they never think about doing another stars En Gen

Alright anons. I’m already going to place my bet and say Gura will stream Pokemon today. Anything else in mind that you guys got? I can’t see any other return stream other than Sonic but I feel like even that’s run its course now

>>38265750
>until Cover find the replacement of his new manager
Anon, the girls fire their managers on a bimonthly basis.
If whatever Vesper did was lower management related said manager would have been reassigned or canned right away as they're one step above a "personal assistant"

>>38265502
It is, but as a fan the caricature works as a concept to be aligned with to keep the girls in line. If the mythical creature exist, you'd have someone who'd passionately monitor/keep up with your oshi and keep them from doing dumb things and slow down her career, so that you doesn't have to.
Like shown with Kobo etc, the general audience doesn't appreciate 'anti-unicorn' behaviors even though they don't go anywhere near to bothering the talents directly. The illusion of packs of unicorns helps with that effort

>>38265866
Bimonthly as in twice a month or as in once every two months?

>>38265781
sorry bro ill return your wife (my mistress) later after im done with her :3

>>38265825
Huh so nijisanji was basically designed from the start for corporate bootlicking. Is that why most of their fans defend the company even though their actions screws over the streamer?

Imagine if Susan supported vtubers as much as she supported a sub 20k shitter like Ludwig
https://twitter.com/SusanWojcicki/status/1598789640609071104?t=K3JJIUHjAcmpux7tVxtuvg&s=19

>>38265713
>no true nijifag
isnt that one on the list?

So did Nijifags bot Ike as a test run and it just completely shit the bed when they moved over to Vox? Ike getting that much when he's done GOI before doesn't make sense to begin with, and Vox's graph is fucked beyond reason

>>38265799
>>38265708
>>38265616

>>38265829
I agree on the last point her cooking stream kind of showed some issues. Losing her phone moments after placing it down. Eating fucking spam for thanksgiving. A can opener that doesnt work. No proper baking tray and contemplating using a dirty one.
Woman needs help cleaning up she lives how i used to when i was depressed years ago.

>>38265915
Never let a Nijinigger tell you you are a corporate bootlicker. They literally take pride in being loyal to the brand

>>38265834
This is corporate dicksucking but where's the part where they think it's ok for an under-earner to die?

Da fuq is happening to Nijisanji?

>>38265708
Now they can concentrate and play their genshin killer shill game all they want.

>>38265573
Bruh

>>38265977
why didnt he just say that he might play the game again and not add a comment that might incite the genshin fanbase like last time?

>>38265923
>Imagine if Susan supported vtubers as much as she supported a sub 20k shitter like Ludwig
she has no choice but to support ludwig. they paid a hefty fucking sum for his ass.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>119,225: Pekora (Hololive)
>51,019: Marine (Hololive)
>49,213: Miko (Hololive)
>30,740: Okayu (Hololive)
>28,620: Subaru (Hololive)
>28,374: Subaru (Hololive)
>27,101: Pekora (Hololive)
>26,641: Nene (Hololive)
>26,575: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>14,614: Iroha (Hololive)
>12,527: Botan (Hololive)
>12,371: Kanata (Hololive)
>11,922: Korone (Hololive)
>11,901: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,428: Chloe (Hololive)
>11,151: Ito Life (Indie)
>10,013: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,001: Fuwa (Nijisanji)

There are no words to describe today's tally, absolute carnage, eight Holo streams over 20k making the top 8 and yet another Pekora gold.
What's with Holos and this type of December performance?

>>38265977
Based. Genshin community is basically the fotm normie anime community but for a video game actual cancer

>>38265999
>ame needs help
>gura needs help
our oshis are both helpless for christ sake rur

>>38265750
The most confusing thing about Vesper suspension is how the trinity homogirl reacted.
Mori straight up never mention him ever again, we are talking about the same girl who tried to props up Rushia misbehaviour. Also no words from Kronii or Bae

>>38266011
>>38264573
>>38264957
corporate bootlicking at its worse.

>>38266021
He learned from Mori that the secret to success is to own da haters.

>>38265901
That's an exaggeration but some "problematic girls" (for different reasons) traded managers several times between 2021 and now, with two coming to mind
>Haachama
>Suisei

Polka, OTOH, managed to make a good team with her staff (perks of being a veteran) and might be with the same manager since debut

>>38266011
It's unfortunate that some livers may have health issues, but that doesn't mean ANYCOLOR should give out handouts. I'd extend the same standards/expectations to any other company

>>38265923
funny enough, this dude started a subathon around the same time with the jaiden animations girl and she beat him by a lot, then she became a chuba herself

>>38266048

>>38266048
bronze queen...

>>38266070
I like how this is the only image i have from that even regarding their reactions

>>38266048
December are Festive month. Expect a lot of events from both sides, I think Niji are way too quiet this year on December beside NJU

>>38266048
>HOLOSWEEP
HOLOSWEEP
>HOLOSWEEP

>>38266100
i mean rikus 2nd yacht is more important than his liver actually living right?
jesus nijisanji fans are trully on another level of corpo discksucking.

>>38265667
It's not the first time they say things like that. Nijifans say shit like picrel too.

>>38265967
it's his first playthrough

>>38266048
>>38266107

>>38266106
Look like snail house art

>>38266048

>>38266112
Salami earrings...

>>38264309
>https://twitter.com/Lieverse_Liars
Sukoya(29/142), Alice(71/142), Eru(51/142), Lize(10/142)
>Digital release singles
Gwelu(34/142), Ange(8/142), Kagami(19/142)
>Voice Drama: https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1584469888495943681
Kanae(3/142), Kakeru(62/142), Nui(39/142), Sukoya(29/142), Axia(66/142), Lauren(47/142)

So if your not in the top half of Niji you don't get anything new. Where's the new stuff for Akane or Shiba?
Based on https://www.nijisanji.jp/en/talents?filter=nijisanji&orderKey=subscriber_count&order=desc

WTF?
>WHAT IS THIS FUCKING RETENTION?
Miko didn't dip below 40k almost 3 hours in

>>38266007
from what i've experienced in the /nijien/ thread (basically a handful of women who want to be raped / beaten by Sonny now)
Holofriends lick corpo boots because their corpo is generally good and invests back in the girls
Nijisisters lick corpo boots because it's not Hololive (basically the only way they can defend the practice of everyone getting the same cheap plastic acryl garbage on their birthday and charging almost the same for it as the full gawr gura plushie set)

>>38266048
>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi
2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D

>PER COMPANY
3x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
1x: Aqua, Miko, Pekora

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
223x: Hololive
101x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
52x: Pekora
22x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
18x: Aqua
16x: Salome, Subaru
15x: Nijisanji
10x: Marine
7x: Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata, Mio, Toya
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel
4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Choco, Lui, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Fubuki, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

And with that Pekora is mathematically confirmed as 2022's individual gold tally champion

>>38266048
3-14 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead

>>38266180
weekend still

>>38266100
BASED RIKU !
if their LIVERS die just replace them! its not that hard ! take note holochuds!

>>38266112
uhh you sure this is the right image? feBAErary tweet was from... February

>>38266140
Fucking hell. They sound more and more like shills for the corpo than actual fans. Is the nijisanji intern thing not a meme but an actual thing?

Here's a thought, why don't these corps get their own TV channel?

>>38266171
I dunk on Nijis at any chance but that's a no brainer.
Nijisanji never progressed beyond
>give the talent an app and let them swim or sink
that was the norm in 2018.

And every movement in that direction was met by absolute rejection by their existing talent, as shown by Mayuzumi departure.
Seems like they're in a pickle, the old talent wants Nijisanji to remain hands off, the new talent can't complete in the current market without Nijisanji propping them up.

>>38266145
>>38266048

>>38266235
>. Is the nijisanji intern thing not a meme but an actual thing?
Yes. If you are smart enough you can even find the same person on reddit running the same damage control on r/vyt

>>38266180
miko is cute, simple as

>>38265750
He won't return until next wednesday, judging by his usual schedule.

>>38266265
you could some Top to bottom where the quality starts and ends.

>>38266265
>>38266048

>>38266208
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
218x: Hololive
103x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
51x: Pekora
32x: Miko
28x: Kuzuha
22x: Marine
14x: Subaru
13x: Suisei
11x: Gura, Salome
10x: Nijisanji
7x: Fubuki, Hololive
6x: Botan, Fuwa, Korone, Toya
5x: Aqua
4x: Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Lamy, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, IRyS, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Towa, Uki, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
217x: Hololive
102x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie
5x: Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
37x: Miko
33x: Subaru
32x: Pekora
29x: Kuzuha
16x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Lamy, Okayu
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Fubuki, Hal, Korone, Mori, Suisei
3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Iroha, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki, Shion
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Lize, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nerumero, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Enna, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Met, Minase, Noel, Nose, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

As well as the silver champion although today dealt another blow to her bronze chances

>>38266265
UNBRAIDED! UNBRAIDED!
>THAT WILL NERF HER!

>>38266140
funny enough last nijiwave has also been a while ago wasn't it? so the point of the anon in your picture is not just retarded but also wrong kek

>>38266281
I want to say that i hope they get paid for their efforts but then i realize that they work for nijisanji.

burgers.....

>>38266140
Holyshit, these type of people don't even watch niji chubba, they just shilling for the company.

Since when did /#/numbers become a dumping ground of holo vs niji schizo circle jerking?

>>38266317
Arent they supposedly releasing a new one this month? with that event thing and nina a few months ago saying that they are gonna have a bigger family during christmas?

>>38266100
This would be fine if they were still a part-time gig with part-time hours but especially on the EN side it's clear they're expected to treat this as a full-time job. They're expected to be ready for meetings at all hours of the day. Selen said she basically broke down and cried due to stress preparing for her birthday.

>>38266347
>Denzel Dumfries
The fuck kind of name is that

>>38266347
we don't care about soccer fuck off

>>38266304
>>38266048
>>38266312
here

>>38266347
>losing to Depay, The blind and Dumb fries

Heh this guy. Back again with the direct thumbnail and title
This should be the new meta

>>38266048

>>38266347
Oh no! The horror!
Anyways, back to Football, Hockey, Basketball…

>>38266347
CONCEDED TO BLIND AND DUMB FRIES
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF BURGERS

>>38266221
OMG sister, yaassss!

>>38266367
its in the same spirit as Seraph Dazzlegarden

>>38266381
>>38266048

>>38266347
we dont care about soccer, if we did we would have dominated it already

>>38266381
Desuwa vibes

>>38266070
it does seem really suspicious how interactions between the girls and Tempus have dried up since the suspension but I can't think of any reason why other than they don't want people asking about Vesper, have twitter/reddit noticed this as well?

Did Fauna win the En gold??
Or was it Alban?

>>38266431
>>38266048

>>38265999
She also reheated 1 week old potato scallops as a side dish then wonders why tummy hort

>>38266458
kek, you now remember that nijinogs were salivating for this event to be a salami collab instead

>>38266140
>>38266354
Nowhere in those posts implies they are a fan of or watches nijisanji anons.
One corpos having better business model and therefore higher margins than another is a general statement anyone can make. Not everyone that doesn't constantly shit on anycolor is a nijifan, they are actually called non-holofans

>>38266397
FATALITY!!!

>>38266397
KINO
I
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>>38266365
i dunno
i think there was something about 3 new talents but i might be mixing it up with some different corporation

>>38266469
Do you really think her shill stream could beat IRyS RFA?

>>38266469
& Irys!

>>38266347
>lost to fucking wales
>lost to fucking netherlands
>got destroyed by guys called blond and dumfries
holy kek imagine being a burger right now, fucking embarrassing

>>38266469
IRyS for gold
Ike for Silver
Fauna for Bronze

>>38266463
I don't watch EN/ID. Does ID also avoiding Tempus now?

>>38266545
>lost to fucking wales

>>38266488
>>38266048

>>38266397
Look like those evangelist tv show.

>>38265266
Nijifags are literally the only people who cope with critism against their talents by boasting about how much money their CEO makes. It's madness

>>38266506
>People who try to defend nijisanjis actions are not nijisanji fans
What kind of retardation is this?

>>38266048
>>38266577

Miko might lose in numbers but at least she isn't getting touched and fondled by creepy ojisans live on stream

>>38266506
Of course they arent they are nijisanji interns like you who try to justify niji managements actions.

>>38266616
>>38266048

>>38266562
Didn't have the time to watch ollie or reine. Been watching kaela, so 100% zero mention.

>>38266560
A Shoto collab couldn't even get Vox a cripple medal...

before the seafriend starts spammng again, let us remind ourselves what happened on the last thread:
>>38261757
>>38262091

How do we save mizkif? 20k streamer to 3-5k streamer.

>>38266600
Im honestly baffled and this guy right here >>38266506 is saying that they arent Nijifags. Pretty sad that they have to resort to using the no true scotsmans fallacy.

>>38266602
Yes anon, you also doesn't have to be a coco fan when you defend her from chinks. Being a tribalfag may have rotted your mind

>>38266690
did he get involved in all that twitch drama?

>>38266048
>only 3 over 10k niji
G R I M

>>38266679
I never experiance this, did jannies banned them or just deleted the post?

>>38266506
It doesn't matter what the truth or whether they're an actual Nijisanji fan, what matters is that I want to believe it and this thread wants to believe it and it makes Nijisanji look even worse.

What do you even get defending Nijisanji here, the closest we have to a Niji anti thread?

>>38266700
Any evidence on that post that they are, anon?

>>38266658
Hey on the bright side... Vox beat mumei I guess...

Vtubers... lost...

>>38266642
>>38266048

>>38266048
where is the cow

>>38266658
If it makes you feel better, it at LEAST beat the shill stream. Which a bunch of other NijiENs can't say the same

>>38266700
>Im honestly baffled
Yeah, I'm sure that happens a lot, sweetie

Here is everything deleted from prev thread

>>38265966
As a matter of fact it is
## NIJICOPE LIST - FULLY SOURCED EDITION
Numbered for your convenience and easy referencing.
Full list here (includes the removed shitposts, falseflags, schizoposts, non-niji and unsourced copes) : https://rentry.org/nijicopes/raw

** FRAMED IN GOLD - Direct from Anycolor and the Livers themselves **
> #01 Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural slow and steady growth (>>20457274) (<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31785447)</span>
> #02 Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP (>>19597187)
> #03 Council didn't do as well Luxiem (>>19597187)

** CLASSIC **
> #04 Nijisanji has SOUL/Quality (>>>/jp/31465719 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35484805 >>>/jp/36325406)</span>
> #05 Nijisanji has better chemistry (>>4962776 <span class="deadlink">>>5591760 >>6383777)</span>
> #06 Nijisanji is building a sub-culture/VTubing culture (>>10983732 <span class="deadlink">>>11015414 >>11105922)</span>
> #07 Superchats don't matter, Nijisanji has more merch sales [no evidence] (>>>/jp/25750975 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/30117222 >>>/jp/31524177 >>>/jp/34129071 >>>/jp/34630791)</span>
> #08 Nijisanji has more creative freedom (>>>/jp/25078156 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35915283 >>>/jp/36404268 >>>/jp/36412049)</span>
> #09 Foreign audience bad, local Nips good (>>>/jp/23900990 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31522946 >>>/jp/31923947 >>2689172 >>3342175 >>3343926 >>3555435)</span>
> #10 Nijisanji is more popular than Holo in Japan (>>>/jp/27419919 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/29231034 >>>/jp/29352658 >>>/jp/34766571 >>1843302 >>3773035 >>7615028)</span>
> #11 Google trends (>>1787083 <span class="deadlink">>>1784574 >>2871777)</span>
> #12 This will be the end of Hololive/Holobubble will burst (>>10226380 <span class="deadlink">>>10959272 >>11111437)</span>
> #13 YouTube Trends (>>11812348)
> #14 Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market (>>12171645)
> #15 Cover and hololive fans use bots (>>3225905 <span class="deadlink">>>4283312 >>24804708)</span>
> #16 Hololive's restrictive management will cause their talents to eventually graduate (>>8445392 <span class="deadlink">>>11875343)</span>
> #17 Fortune telling a.k.a "J-just wait, Cover will fuck up something someday" (>>14561348 <span class="deadlink">>>14752560 >>14752914 >>21529067 >>22935912 >>23288417)</span>

** NUMBERS **
> #18 Ratiocope (>>5536896 <span class="deadlink">>>8648645 >>13972862 >>14457547 >>20388935)</span>
> #19 Dead cat bounce (>>10959272 <span class="deadlink">>>13922827 >>14015995 >>14198900)</span>
> #20 Quality numbers (>>14001847)
> #21 Just combine the peak CCV of all our streams and we win (>>13902618)
> #22 Statistics are fake numbers (>>15032001)
> #23 Luxiem has a better profit margin than Holofes (>>20201927)
> #24 Vox has the FASTEST SUB GROWTH in VTuber History (>>21373805 <span class="deadlink">>>21374368)</span>

** MERCH AND SPONSORS **
> #25 Holo merch is underproduced to create artificial scarcity (>>>/jp/32410399 <span class="deadlink">>>5902529 >>15489004 >>16388154)</span>
> #26 Holomerch sold out means the company regretted the collab (>>12121308)
> #27 You buy merch - even if it's shit - to support the liver, not to actually use it (>>23937339)
> #28 Sponsorships are retarded (>>12109798)
> #29 Associating with Hololive is toxic for Bushiroad's growth because China (>>19752522)

** IT DOESN'T COUNT **
> #30 Concerts and return streams don't count (>>11676374)
> #31 Outfit reveals don't count (>>14891587)
> #32 Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count (>>12296330)
> #33 Koshien is not an event (>>12127247)
> #34 Bookwalker doesn't count (>>19629617)

** GENERAL **
> #35 Holocope list (>>12296493 <span class="deadlink">>>12457630 >>14120649)</span>
> #36 Niji is still #1, they just removed it from their webpage to show humility (>>11747638)
> #37 Trailers are the same as advertisements (>>10992803 <span class="deadlink">>>10992938)</span>
> #38 Holo EN was a desperate gambit to find an audience (>>11753740)
> #39 Hololive just got lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side (>>>/jp/29352541)
> #40 *Selen delusion here* (>>8854844 <span class="deadlink">>>12533326 >>12955114 >>13021182 >>13045705 >>13445167 >>14879823)</span>
> #41 Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement (>>12085330)
> #42 Trickle down viewers - "The big Nijisanji livers' viewers will trickle down to smaller channels" (>>12755553 <span class="deadlink">>>12755712 >>26476805 >>26704868)</span>
> #43 Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher (>>17835784)
> #44 Niji is smart for not wasting money on useless conventions/concerts (>>20202005)
> #45 No true Nijifan - "There are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad" (>>24913466, <span class="deadlink">>>26079927, >>26102448, >>26685075, >>26702974, >>26688516)</span>

And when all else fails...
> #46 Blatant Lying
> Vox is "higher" than Gura (>>24420454)
> Vox got a bigger billboard (>>24424746)
> Mika is the Queen of ID (>>24426268)
> SEA belongs to Mysta (>>24423909)
> Calling a straight graph a "worm" (>>24427484)

And after all that...
> #47 Playing the Victim : >>5836502 <span class="deadlink">>>11753740 >>13804174 >>14751831</span>

>>38266766
>What do you even get defending Nijisanji here
Honestly i dont know why the retard still does it even though it only make it worse for stealth nijisanji lurkers. Im honestly starting to think the guy is part of that official nijisanji defense force that they have on their website.

>>38266766
Not defending nijisanji or a corpo or whatever, most of them are just stating the obvious and pushes back on misinformed/fallacious claims

>>38266811
>>38266048

Where the fuck is Vesper, honestly? Even if he doesn't stream he should at least tweet something out, shouldn't he? Because his fans are already fucking worried about him?

>>38266171
Sukoya really fell off after cheating on Tomoe huh

>>38266851
nijifags are disgusting

>>38266813
>where is the cow
Missed the cut by a few hours

>>38266690
King maker? Damm those fag really have zero loyal viewers, no wonder they jumb to any drama they can find.

>>38266194
I've said it before, Holofags support hololive because they genuinely enjoy the content hololive puts out
Nijifags support nijisanji because it's not hololive, hence why they always open their sales pitches by comparing them to hololive

>>38266766
guys a retard the only thing he achieves is make nijisanji look worse that it is already in the thread.

>>38266859
I'm sorry if you're that bothered by poster pointing out your irrational hate towards a certain corpo anon

>>38265662
BTW mogging Tempus is something that i legit want Niji to do, so... Please do.
Also can you "Nijibros" start a campaign or something to trade Ame, Bae and Kronii for Salome?

>>38266463
Dec 3
https://twitter.com/vestiazeta/status/1598916836321808386

Nov 28
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1597049598140301312

>>38265559
>holofags mostly bootlicks the girls and believe they can do no wrong
Mori
Kronii
Ame
Lacunny
Festival...

I don't know if someone already posted this but b2 has uprising star gen from asoul male counterpart. They are going viral on every Chinese platforms

>>38266679
wh-wha? oh i thought those were nijiniggers. sorry about that

>>38266869
>>38266048

>>38266908
>Nijifags support nijisanji because it's not hololive
There has to be a limit right? I mean no one can be that much of a corporate bootlicker to the point that its ok for them to die since they dont make enough money for the company?

>>38266851
>NijiNiggers Mass banned
>They never learned....

>>38265512
>how dumb cover management is
It is better than vshojo at least.

>THE BOX IS EVIL
<THE BOX IS EVIL
>THE BOX IS EVIL
<THE BOX IS EVIL
>THE BOX IS EVIL
<THE BOX IS EVIL
>THE BOX IS EVIL
<THE BOX IS EVIL
>THE BOX IS EVIL
<THE BOX IS EVIL
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST!

>>38266048
>>38266869

>>38266851
285 is my only post in that image, just realized it was deleted

>>38266854
One of the rare masterpiece /#/ ever came up with

>>38266971
If it is the one that had been banned but bounced back, people in this thread commented about it.

>>38266851
>try to shit up thread for no reason
>try to suck rikus penis for no gain
why are they like this?

>>38267046
but we come up with alot of masterpieces

>>38267024
>>38266048

>>38266997
>thinking nijikeks have a limit
They don't have any limits.

>>38266851
Why are Nijinigger like this?

>>38265662
Are you the same guy who made this post?

>>38266048
>>38267080

>>38266851
>Nijisanji fans are not the ones who are defending the company
>38264738
every fucking time

>>38267057
Different one but yes the banned white haired guy also exploded but not for entertainment related. He is like markiplier of Chinese.
Asoul male has crazy views, almost five times biggrr than any of Luxiem b2 unique viewers

>Hololive is idol
>Pekora performs what is supposed to be an usual idol skit
>this apparently caused outrage
I don't get this, am I too retarded?

americans status?

>>38266789
NOT SO FAST!

>>38267126
>>38266048

>>38266403
>all sports no one cares about
nice cope

>>38267165
No, you aren't retarded enough

>>38267013
Keep coping just because you are not below garbage tier like nijisanji doesnt mean that your management is good holofag.

>>38266165
bilingual san, i need your help understand this ahit.

>>38267165
What Pekora did today was more "vaudeville" than "idol". There is no practical difference except some 80 years in entertainment style

>>38264989
hmm, this could be interesting

>>38267013
VSHOJO HAS A MANAGEMENT?!

>>38267189
>>38266048

>>38267165
/vt/ have somehow convinced themselves that idols aren't allowed to be on the same plane of existence as men

something something about irys in this irys thread

>>38267165
>never interact with men
>suddenly 3 holo girls (pekora, noel and marine) get touched and fondled by some creepy dude live on stream

>>38267205
lrn2 yandex mate
https://translate.yandex.com/ocr

>>38267168
I dont watch soccer

>>38267245
>never interact with men
negro please, Marine literally creamed herself when met ZUN back then

>>38267234
>>38266048

>>38267212
Qrd?

>>38267212
doesn't he have a history of doing/saying stupid shit? how is this any different?

Today is the day vshojo is maybe revealing the fruits of their 1.5 year English Auds right?

>>38267278
>b-but she talked to ZUN two years ago
Oh ok sorry I guess that makes it okay for her to get her tits touched by this guy now

>>38266048
>>38267281

This is just now hitting a million? Didn't this release right before her Internet Overdose cover?
https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1599087941007339520

>>38267307
Anon, please stop broadcasting your cuckoldry fantasies. Keep them to yourself

>>38267263
>Gaurgula
japanese funny word translations will never be not funny to me

>>38267307
I didn't write talk, I said creamed herself, that's a pretty big difference

>>38267280
Luca was asked his preferred body type and said "not fat or obese that's for sure" then laughed

>>38267307
anon, I hate having to repeat Kronii's word
but do you even have female friends irl?

>>38267316
>>38266048

>>38267205
Looks like Cover corp's trademark registration for "Gawr Gura" in the digital arts and entertainment category.
I don't see the point, I thought this was standard procedure for any corporation?
The highlighted part just says Cover Corp.
Bilinguism is not gonna help here, we need shrinks who speak schizo.

>>38267280
there's been outrage any time one of their boys talks about body prefences, I think this one said he liked thigh gaps and the "THAT IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR MOST WOMEN" squad attacked him

>>38267321
It takes her songs 6+ months to hit one million, if not more

>>38267347
>"not fat or obese that's for sure" then laughed
Why do you guys hate Luxiem boys again mates? They surely have their hearts in the right place

>>38267359
>>38266048

>>38267392
>EN Management sucks homos dick

>>38267307
Wtf is this Kazuya from Rent a Girlfriend mentality?

>>38267377
looks like something smartphone related, might be that hololive game app?

>>38267347
>This resulted in him losing 2/3rds of his fanbase
lmao

>>38267401
this is numbers mate, Luca losing number because of a dumb comment is dumb

>>38267391
>THAT IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR MOST WOMEN
Every time I thought that, some camgirl proved me wrong. Just saying.

>>38267203
Yeah and so does vshojo's management retard.
Or you are just another corporate bootlicker?

>>38267408
>>38266048

>>38267307
Well clearly you can show the timestamp where this boob touching happened right?
I hope you aren't lying to make this bigger than it is.

>>38267165
I watch akb48 skit, and i can tell you those retard take on idol probably just idolmaster or love live.

>>38265244
>Anyone who still stay after cold chicken would most probably stay with her through this.
I don't think you can really equate not streaming on a certain day to whatever happened today.

>>38267425
When he said this?

>>38267477
I could, but it was too traumatizing and I want to try and still watch Marine and Noel in the future, so I have to force myself to forget about what I saw. Those greasy slimy hands on their bodies.

>>38267424
The registration category is definitely the one originally meant for videogames. I think they are just using that for vtuber characters, so there would be no news here, but I may be wrong.
Also the submission date is 2020-10-20, I don't think they were planning a videogame that far back?

>>38267484
>idolmaster
i@as anime literally has male unit interacting with the main girls, this is just Love Live issue which makes sense because it's more popular overseas than Idolmaster

>>38267458
>>38266048

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK4z_bGAoQ8
Time for her to get raped by Gura today.

>>38267457
vshojo management is retarded at times like with the audition drama but at least its not on the level where one of our streamers almost died because they didnt have enough money due to not being payed by the top revenue generating vtuber company.
Keep sucking riku dick anon

>>38267540
>>38266048

>>38267485
I see more reactions for cold chicken than this

Just realized why cover put his mug on the nigga model is to assure the viewers that the hypnotist is an ugly balding dude

>>38267205
>>38267377
>>38267424
https://twitter.com/trademark_bot/status/1494352955289571328
Compare it with this

>>38267484
>>38267535
90% of this board has no idea what idols are before hololive, and also think of unicorns as that one guy who tracked down an idol by the reflection in her eye or someshit, then extrapolated from that to "If holos talk to men they will get stabbed by crazies" and proceeded to milk that for drama and shitposts

>>38266048
THE BIG 3

>>38267347
Is this real or just taking out of context?
When he said this? We should track her median after this comment

>>38267563
>vshojo management is retarded at times like with the audition drama but at least its not on the level where one of our streamers almost died
Quite the contrary, a "bubble girl" is able to make a living thanks to the company support

>>38267517
So you are just lying then, disappointing.
I feel like you could bait with this shit without resorting to making up things just fine, I believe in you.

>>38267377
>I don't see the point, I thought this was standard procedure for any corporation?
Yeah but once you register you have to pay for it per year.
I think that's the reason why not every niji talent got their trademark registration.

>>38267523
>I don't think they were planning a videogame that far back?
Didnt the videogame rumor predate myth? I would not be surprised if they were planning it as early as 2019

>>38267562
>rfa into switch sports into chadcast
Terrible schedule all things considered

>>38267575
>>38266048

>>38267562
What the absolute fuck is she doing?

>>38267517
This is you unironically

>>38266883
why are nijifags like this?

>>38267623
>Yeah but once you register you have to pay for it per year.
It's a pittance and give you a SLAM DUNK court case in case anyone makes any profit out of your characters

>>38267600
compare how?

>>38267347
kek, what did he imagine what kind of girl watches male vtubers and sends SCs to them?
Surely not girls that are good looking, they got other things to do

>>38266048

>>38267562
>1 hour earlier
Why is she like this?

>>38267660
>>38267707
Testing how she does in different timesluts obviously

>>38267623
>not every niji talent got their trademark registration.
Isnt that a bit retarded especially when your company makes income with talent merch?

>>38266048
>>38267654

>>38267425
Maybe his fanbase should lose 2/3rds of their weight.

>>38267707
She knows she's getting overlapped no matter what timeslot she chooses so she's going to try to be Gura's waiting room

Whats on todays wheelchair menu

Any interesting news or happening in the past few days

>>38267685
How are most EN vtubers and their managers completely unaware of the market they stepped into?
Are Kiara, Fauna, and IRyS the only ones who "get" it? (I would include Gura if she actually gave a damn)

>>38267660
She's tasted the numbers from this timeslot and things she can stay in it, even though gur and Fauna will rape her out of it every time

>>38267245
>noel
Isn't she the one who claimed to be afraid of men?

>>38267771
Holofes 4 roster with all of iD2 and councilRyS? Idk what else is news worthy

>>38267771
only new thing interesting is that mysta might get into another drama with the genshin fanbase again.

>>38267165
yes, you are a retard. now stop polluting this thread and go fuck yourself in the catalog

>>38267792
No she hate them, specifically the coomer kind
She still do what she do anyway regardless

Pekora is an entertainer and she barely reads superchats, how the fuck does she have unicorn fans?
Are they retarded?

>>38267812
Good fuck genchink

>>38267769
Gura is streaming. No competition

>>38267800
Oh I saw that, I meant more on the petty drama side
>>38267812
Here we go that's more like it

>>38267780
>fauna

>>38267744
>>38266048

>>38267792
thats flare
she just hates meeting coomers

>>38267563
So tell me which niji livers almost died because they didnt have enough money due to not being payed?
Or you just made this up?
Vshojo bootlicker?

>>38267707
Seems like she wants to end the stream before the MV reveals .

>>38267685
Even if there were hot women in his audience, a tone deaf comment like that would set people off.
He did the same thing that Kronii and Ame did with their “Improve yourself” and “you guys have female friends don’t you?” comments.

Vtubers work because the model makes it’s ez to disassociate from reality. Luca was the perfect anime husbando to these chicks until that comment made them realize he’s just like every other douchebag male.

>>38267827
You can be against them getting felt up without being a unicorn

O nyo!
Looks like a certain spiteful rapper has been flattening out for a few months, for *whatever reason* totally not correlated with certain male vtubers, while a certain rabbit is going for the long run.
Guess who will have the last laugh, complete with flipping arrows?

At least she's clearing her queue but
>OOOFFF
barely over 2.5k on a SC reading

>>38267896
It's baffling how hard it is for some vtubers to simply not pull this kind of shit.
A lot of JPs seem to understand this well: Just don't insult your audience. Love your audience, show them you care, be there for them. It's so simple, really.

>>38267873
your dog liver anon.
but then again you will try to deny or underplay it again like what you did last thread niji intern anon.

>>38267523
Cover's first project was an AR ping pong game.

>>38267863
>>38266048

>>38267900
If you are talking about Peko and Mori, the difference between then is that Peko struck gold with the FGO audience

>>38267900
It's been more than 2 years and /hlg/ is still mad about how a little shark who despises numbers got 1M before everybody else

>>38267923
2.5-3.5k seems par for the course on lower end holoEN super readings these days

>>38267742
I don't think so since not everyone in niji earn as much as their top dogs or mid tier streamers.
And remember not everyone in niji got their merch except those copy-paste stuffs right?
So it is not necessary.

Anyone still have Gura’s CCV graph when she had that scuffed stream? It’s a good graph to look at when comparing to other weird graphs.

Just saw this in the other thread and i just thought it was funny.

>>38267979
Yeah, and now she doesn't give a shart anymore.
Such is life I guess?

>>38267923
It's always funny when vtubers act like they're immune to falling off. Every fucking entertainer on the planets falls off unless they're literal living legend geniuses, especially so for vtubers. Even Kizuna Ai is irrelevant now and she invented vtubing.

>>38267952
Holocope/Vshojocope
Keep seething.

>>38267948
not this guy lol

>>38268023
Are you replying to me? Why are you changing the topic?

>>38267900
Why are you targeting her specifically when all of EN has essentially the same flatlining?

>>38267982
So they only copyright the top earners? Thats news to me since that drama about the ex nijiid from a few months ago was about copyright stuff and i dont think ex nijiid are the top dogs.

>>38267963
>>38266048

>Using livers to describe chuubas is wrong
Holobros what if it’s not….?

>>38267948
>A lot of JPs seem to understand this well
anon did you just miss the niji that graduated because he hates his fanbase that much he would rather quit that keep streaming?

Do you guys think it's over for vtubing in the West? Be honest.

>>38268120
No fuck off

>>38266048

>>38268075
>>38268071
because you idiots are falling for the oldest niji tactic in the book

>>38268116
If you want to quit that's fine though.
The problem is if you do this but still try to keep growing or even sustaining what you have.

>>38268100
I prefer the term kidney.

>>38265866
>Anon, the girls fire their managers on a bimonthly basis.
The high rotation on some of the talents is part of the training strategy. JP managers assigned to easy to manage talents don't last long with them after they get experience on the job.
Many factors are involved in how easy/hard to manage a talent is. They are not hard to imagine if you ever worked with people on a team.
TEMPUS is hard to manage by default (language barrier, active timezones) and Vesper obviously turned out to be a talent with special needs.

>>38266112
those are reactions to rushia

>>38267980
That's the problem, Mori should definitely NOT be "lower end"

>>38268116
Yeah but that guy actually quit because he hated it and actually had honor. These other ones still want to keep going and profit out of it

so, where is vesper?

>>38268071
I'm not changing the topic. Her recent behavior adds insult to injury, for her seniors who saw her reach 1M with a fraction of the effort it took them to reach 100k. It makes it even more pointless or unjust.

>>38267923
How do you feel about those that get below 2.5k on SC readings?

>>38266048
>>38268136

>>38268120
Nah but having Vshojo as the face in the west will always be a HARD filter for new people(basically me)

>>38268028
>Even Kizuna Ai is irrelevant now
No she isn't. Her company is incompetent but that doesn't make her brand irrelevant
>and she invented vtubing.
No she didn't? She coined the word but streaming on youtube with a virtual avatar and some kayfabe existed before her

>>38267923
yeah mori numbers are in the gutter. Went from a superstar to kiara numbers.

>>38268172
>Preparing his tweet
Something like
>"The Management and I have a creative differences"

>>38268165
she's getting more than Chloe's getting so I really don't see what your issue is

>>38268120
Everything is pointing that fujos are going back to e-celeb shit like kpop or whatever.
So for males, yes. Females, no.

>>38268138
Thanks anon, I just saw that he replied to me again. I won't give him another (you) this time

>>38268116
He did well. He fucking hated his audience and he send a clear signal
>if I have to return to THAT audience I fucking quit

>>38268206
>>38266048

>>38268220
this isn't niggersanji anon

>>38268232
>females, no
Then explain flat sub and viewer growth for all Holos

>>38266180
Holobots….. wait ummm ummmm pekora had 119k!!!

>>38268162
>TEMPUS is hard to manage by default (language barrier, active timezones) and Vesper obviously turned out to be a talent with special needs.
Wut? Tempus is the EASIEST branch to manage
>there is no expectations for performance
>there are only four of them
>EN management is CLEARLY allocating a disproportionate amount of resources to have them succeed

>>38267948
Ame loves her audience, though.

>>38268268
>>38266048

>>38268281

>>38267982
>So it is not necessary.
wait so that reasoning on why they had to get a cut of some fan made merch from a nijiid liver due to copyright was just a bs reasoning? that it wasnt about copyright but instead they just wanted a cut?

>>38268204
Wasn't Chloe reading #17 of her 3D debut superchat in that stream?

>>38267425
I can't believe 2/3 of his fanbases used to be obes

>>38268302
No, she loves yesmen.

>>38267425
the hambeasts of nijien...

>>38268306
>>38266048

>>38267247
>Rape S**** in front of Maria
So she is not fat…
She is just pregnant.

Pekora literally got dry humped in the air by some dude

>>38268302
my unwell wife worked herself into a short break trying to stream through a sickness...

>>38268354
>>38266048

>>38268327
No, the first SC stream for her anniversary countdown supers.

>>38268366
>anon can't read kana
SU TA- FU 2

>>38268302
she only loves regis though

>34k
isn't this insanely low for MC even for kiara?

>>38268075
Because she's still 3rd in Hololive / Holopro by subscriber count, but she's about to drop off to 4th place to the rabbit.
And not all of EN is flatlining. Gura was doing fine before her vacation or whatever she's doing. Ina too.

>>38268350
Why does she so frequently go against yesmen in her own polls, then?