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Previously - >>13012797

>> No.13038533

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434ranking

>> No.13038641
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>>13034569
oh nyo nyo nyo

>> No.13038679

>>13038641
when is the hang?

>> No.13038720
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The trick to getting big numbers is that only good religious girls get them and atheists will be 2views forever.

>> No.13038736
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TOP 20 HOLOLIVE streams
>Nov 1 - 14, 2021

>> No.13038763

>>13038679
where were u when shiczo is hang

>> No.13038774

>>13038736
>5 fucking Evil God Korone Streams

>> No.13038808

>>13038736

I kneel to Koro-san.

>> No.13038813

>>13038736
Peko, Migo, and Marine make up half of those. Hololive is top heavy.

>> No.13038893

>>13038736
Heh. 30k doesn’t even get you in the top 20. 40k doesn’t get you top 10. 50k doesn’t get you top 5. And that’s a 2 week period. That’s some tough competition.

>> No.13038952

>>13038736
beneath that is 13 more 30k+ streams

>> No.13038976

>>13038813
The thing is, you take them out and you still have a ton of people who can pull out 10k+ on the regular, and some who can do 20k+ often enough.
Whereas Niji...

>> No.13039016

>>13038736
the crazy thing about this is that we are only talking about 2 weeks, this is insane

>> No.13039046

>>13038813
No. It's just that their top Chuubas are insanely strong. The equivalent of having prime Jordan and Lebron in your starting 5 while Luka, Chuck and Ewing make up the rest. Also, their bench are a bunch of all-star level players too.

>> No.13039395

Sana's chat hates numbers too.
STUPID FUCKERS JUST LET HER GET THE NORMAL ENDING FIRST FFS.

>> No.13039456

>>13039395

Right? Everytime someone does the bad ending first I die a little inside. It's the recipe to kill your chance of big number

>> No.13039461

>>13039395
They're so fucking stupid I'm actually pissed. Were other chats doing this same stupid shit?

>> No.13039488

>>13039046
Ey its the basketball guy again.

>> No.13039496

>>13039456
What's the difference between bad ending and good ending?

>> No.13039586
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>>13038774
Whoa there pal, I noticed you weren't kneeling.

>> No.13039617 [DELETED] 

>>13039496
depends on what you define as 'bad' and 'good'.
There are two endings
1. Click "I Like Korone". Results in you getting a lobotomy and becoming a Koronesuki (Listener-san looking fucker)
[Spoiler]2. Run away to the left instead, resulting in Hexed Day ending in which Korone gets arrested for attempting to overthrow the government[/spoiler]
The thing is, the best numbers come from doing the 1st enidng first, then going on the 2nd ending. For every holomem that has done the 2nd ending 1st, their numbers have been overall lower.

>> No.13039650

>>13039046
What's Holostars in this example?

>> No.13039662

>>13039586
they should try the niji game too.

>> No.13039670

>>13039496

The bad ending has a twist on it with Korone appearing that is actually pretty funny. Normally the streams start to pick up quite fast in CCV when someone is doing it. But the normal ending is more pale in comparison, so if you do the bad one first you most likely won't get that boost again since people already watched the one who gives the best reactions.

>> No.13039678

>>13039650
The WNBA

>> No.13039745

>>13039678
fucking kek. Seriously homos need a rename that does not sound like a spinoff

>> No.13039767

>>13038641
fallenshadow san!!! how could this be?!

>> No.13039779

>>13039670
Yep, every holomem that has done the 'bad ending' first has gotten big number drop-off, whereas doing the normal ending first is much better for numbers retention and possible numbers growth for the 2nd ending.
So fuck the chat, they told her to run when they should've just let her done the normal ending first. STUPID FUCKS.

>> No.13039808

>>13038641
Fauna is impressive, holding 8k while Ina was still streaming with 9.8k

>> No.13039836

>>13039662
and not getting the boost?
kek

>> No.13039889
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>>13039836
Don't be a meme lord, it's a buff game too.

>> No.13039898

>>13038736
Why can't EN pull these numbers considering they're all in the top 10 in terms of subcount?

>> No.13039934

>>13039889
Holy shit. Is Evil God Korone algorithm bait?

>> No.13039955

>>13039678
My fucking sides. Kek!

>> No.13039973

>>13039898
Oh not this fucking timeloop again (the answer is EN audience is different than JP one, and if you REALLY want details, go ahead and ask how are they different)

>> No.13040010

>>13039779
I haven't follow a single stream yet, bother to recommend one for bad ending first and another good ending first stream?

>> No.13040039

>>13039898
Bad retention, not skilled enough to keep the chat entertained

>> No.13040055

>>13039898
They get views instead

>> No.13040065

>>13039973
I wouldn't accept this cope from Nijifags why would I accept it from ENfags. Yeah, they're different alright. They don't watch streams.

>> No.13040124

>>13010584
Look like pecker lost and it doesn't seem like she catching up to gura either.

>> No.13040155

>>13038641
That's easy when there's recent gura buff + no gura streaming for the day

>> No.13040209

>>13040155
LMAO we're just making up random buffs now?

>> No.13040215

>>13040155
10k
>10k
10k
>10k

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>>13040124
Then there's Marine, very popular episode

>> No.13040245

>>13040124
Oh thank God it would be embarassing for gura considering that vods is your final cope.

>> No.13040248

>>13039898
Half their audience just magically disappeared one day, for all of them at the same time. It was a global eureka moment for their viewers. Legends says those that remain are super loyal though, having 150% participation in stream polls and video likes.

>> No.13040255
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Finana's Honkai streams are very popular, she's getting 3x the views on these

>> No.13040339

>>13040255
People want to watch her react to HI3's main story.
Not bad considering HI3 is much less popular than Genshin as a game, but it probably speaks to how shitty the story in Genshin is that people tune out when they do those parts.
t.Day 1 genshin player

>> No.13040340

>>13040010
Game's too short to split into two streams without good reason (Miko did, so she wouldn't overlap Aqua's impromptu 3d Live).
>13039898
You stupid timelooping motherfucker, you're not even trying at this point and 4 different anons decided to give you (you)s.

>> No.13040361

>>13040226
Marine's rp streams are always popular, check out her grandma marine stream she did last year
>>13040245
I hate chinks so fucking much

>> No.13040403

>>13040339
you should have seen the reaction last stream, she reached a big moment in the story and blew up to 4.5k.
Apparently she is THE biggest honkai streamer, and they're going to let her host the official announcement for the next patch

>> No.13040528

>>13040403
she's gonna get cash then. Guess her grinding gacha is finally paying off, like Kiara did with her JRPGs

>> No.13040566

>>13040403
How dead is honkai if 60k ish vods makes you the biggest?

>> No.13040573

>>13040528
Pretty based. That's how you hustle, not read SCs from streamlabs the day after debut.

>> No.13040582

>>13040566
Not everything is FFXIV, my friend.

>> No.13040598

>>13040248
Even if you want to use this cope it doesn't matter whether Youtube culls adblockers from CCV because they're all on the same playing field. We're still comparing JP to EN on the same basis unless you want to claim youtube disproportionately harms EN which is retarded

>> No.13040603

>>13040566
No one cars about it most moved to genshin

>> No.13040630

>>13039395
It looks like she was faking it and did this intentionally. She's got stuff prepared for the become koronesuki ending including koronesuki sana and yatagarasu and stream effects.

>> No.13040648

>>13040566
Streaming Honkai is pretty 'dead', relatively speaking. Game's been out for a while and then they released Genshin Impact(Mihoyo) so that got the bulk of the attention since 'Oh new and shiny!'

>> No.13040682

>>13040598
There's no claim, it happened. You could even see it affecting JPs but by a fraction of views instead of half. EOPs use more adblocker than JOPs. Are you baiting or just new?

>> No.13040719

>>13040630
papa pako posted de tsukumo sana and the sana kuronesuki is on twitter.
i know i have seen it before.

>> No.13040729

>>13040682
>fraction
More than 20%, especially for Botan and Towa.

>> No.13040732

>>13040598
Don't even try to reason with the cull cope, the multipliers they claim on keeps changing arbitrarily depending on who won the gold(she lost 25%,50%, no 75%). No one actually understands how the cull works anyway.

>> No.13040748

>chink starts en vs jp time loop
>anons bite the bait despite it being obvious
Every fucking time

>> No.13040757
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>>13040245
>it would be embarassing
Eh not really, I thought the number bunny gonna win this one because it a 7hrs long stream with 30k viewers churn.

>> No.13040829

>>13040732
Well, we know its adblock related, what we don't have are good splits on exact %adblock usage on mobile devices, only approximations that get muddy depending on what firm is doing the tracking.
I'm confident in saying the cull is higher for EN, but trying to pin exact numbers is as bullshit as Youtube's CCV, and that's as someone who accepts the cull is real.

>> No.13040838

Oh hey Mori is playing Earthbound, how's that doing?

>> No.13040853

>>13040757

Most of the stream she was a bit more than the 20k mark, the incline only started at the very end because it was the two final bosses of the game.

>> No.13040879

Sana didn't get a buff?

>> No.13040970

>>13040879
Is the game even a buff for EN? Irys gets 12k, Sana gets 5.6k, don't see the difference comparing their normal days.

>> No.13040977
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>>13040879

She wasted it playing the endings in the worst order for numbers

>> No.13040985

>13040757
>Twice subcount
Come on anon you're baiting also did you even check the previous vod views of judgement streams, there is a clear soft cap of 400k cap of people who are interested on following it. You need to stop putting finish lines that is clearly rigged.

>> No.13041032

>>13040970
It's a smaller buff for EN, they haven't really played the other games enough to generate a baseline level of interest in the games. I think Bae's the only one who has played some of them? I could be wrong, there's too many streams.

>> No.13041046

>>13040970
Your idea of what Irys normal is has been skewed by the fact that she plays a lot of minecra or chilla FOTMs, which are also buffs. Yes 12k is a buff for her. Doesn't seem to have worked for Sana though.

>> No.13041063

>>13040977
A shame becasue this was a great stream.
still made $870 out of it.

>> No.13041149

>>13040879
The buff is very small.

>> No.13041152

>>13040838
Numbers are just a bit over her median
She will be spamming the game in the next week (3 streams)

>> No.13041164

>>13041046
Look, Sana's baseline right now is probably 3-4k. Between her already mediocre numbers and the prolonged break, I'm almost confident to say that her median outside of buff stuff is sub 5k.

>> No.13041198

>>13041046
IRyS' playthrough was at a better time for JP and she engaged with them a lot so I'm sure she had a few thousands above her usual.

>> No.13041281

>>13038736
Why do Marine's meme streams always do so well? Her BabaSenchou was also stupidly popular. What's next, modern day Somalian Pirate Marine?

>> No.13041316

>>13040985
Hmmm that's interesting, I wonder if Pecora only streams it for 1 hour would it still get 400k?

>> No.13041318

>>13041281
They can always do the host club.

>> No.13041371

>>13041281
quite obviously received Jesus' blessing

>> No.13041385

>>13041281
There was supposed to be a collab between granny Marine, Noel dx and Subaru but that got cancelled because of her voice and they never went back to it

>> No.13041403

>>13041281
She creates narrative and story arcs from memes, backstory or clips, and when it's big enough she do a special stream that builds around these memes, need real good timing and patience.

>> No.13041426

>>13041316
Probably, considering how invested people are in the story. The higher hours = better vods doesn't work in this situation since it's not a game analogous to something like jump king.

>> No.13041432

>>13041164
I ran the numbers. Her med without the comeback buff is 5,524. With the comeback buff it is 5,621. Without her debut week and the comeback it is 4,522.

>> No.13041440

>>13041281
Marine's best qualities are her voice and humor, streams that are just an hour or so of her doing comedic voice acting without some dumb meme game getting in the way are her best content.

>> No.13041519

I want to see the mid month median and averages in ccv for niji and holo.

>> No.13041695

>>13038736
>Korone left for a break
>Still make it to the chart

Mr.Koro ...

>> No.13041698

>>13041432
Mm. Not quite as low as I thought it'd be, but I guess when she isn't doing absolute debuff shit like astrology at horrid hours for NA her numbers aren't AS bad.

>> No.13041874

>>13039586
>Actually a Meltychad
Yo, care to give a link to a fellow brother?

>> No.13041985

>>13041698
Her median without the debut buff, 2ithout the comeback buff, and horoscope debuff is 5,663.

>> No.13042065

>>13041985
She literally only has a debut buff and comeback buff, she barely streamed before going on break, and she's been back for one week lmao

>> No.13042119

>>13041519
>Pekora 34,711
>Marine 29,578
>Kuzuha 27,328
>Miko 26,394
>Suisei 23,556
>Subaru 19,075
>Gura 18,097

MEMESHARK IS RECLINING LMAO

>> No.13042169

>>13042119
>Kuzuha beating miko
I kneel, I never doubted the true king.

>> No.13042172

>>13042119
Wait kuzu is behind marine now? He is not even silver king now..

>> No.13042348
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>>13042119
NOOOO GURA IS BEING UNFAIRLY TARGETED BY YOUTUBE SHE'D HAVE TWICE THE CCV IF THEY DIDN'T CHANGE THE WAY IT'S CALCULATED

>> No.13042487

GOD mori's views are garbage playing this game, i forgot that zoomers are mostly uncultured fuckers who can't appreciate good games.

>> No.13042530

>>13042119
Kuzuha is that high even with the amount of debuff games he played this month? I'm honestly impressed

>> No.13042533

>wojaks
jesas

>> No.13042541

>>13042348
Please go back to wherever shithole you come from.

>> No.13042582

>>13042533
>Implying chumniggers don't deserve to have wojacks spammed at them

>> No.13042587

>>13042487
And Susan still targets her stream

>> No.13042596

>>13042530
Amount of debuff? most of his stream is splatoon practice no? It usually gets good numbers aswell.

>> No.13042639

HoloEN Superchat (Playboard 11.01 - 11.14)

Mori $ 26,132
Kiara $ 15,042
IRyS $ 13,187
Sana $ 8,960
Kronii $ 8,574
Baelz $ 6,158
Gura $ 7,261
Ina $ 3,960
Fauna $ 3,748
Mumei $ 3,461
Ame $ 1,538

>> No.13042729

>>13042639
These SC haters.

>> No.13042815

>>13042541
they can't, /qa/ actually got nuked and never recover

>> No.13042877

>>13042639
Council hates money. NijiENs get more money even if they get half the views.

>> No.13043037

>Split pov Left4dead2 collab with Watame, Fubuki, Mio and Towa at peak JP timeslot.
Predictions?

>> No.13043150

>>13043037
FubuMio -10k+
Watame - 7-8k
Towa - 5-6k

>> No.13043232

>>13043037
Depends what else is on. Nobody has put up frames yet and the slot will probably be packed due to everyone waiting for after Lamy's birthday stream.

>> No.13043315

>>13039836
Getting a boost for a single stream is so worth it.

>> No.13043346
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So bizarre to see the interest JOPs have in ENs, especially since they have thousands of vtubers.

>> No.13043352

>>13042530

>Debuff games

Anon, are you not aware of the Splatoon tournament? It's what he has been streaming the most recently

>> No.13043492

>>13043346
>EN's
It's just Gura, anon. No one seems to come close to her views in those clips.

>> No.13043517

>>13043346
>japanese otaku are nationalists and right wing
>holofans are otaku for the most part
>holofans mostly seem okay with foreigners

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>> No.13043574

>>13043524
What is the time frame for each stream to grow views?

>> No.13043709

>>13043517
I don't know if that's relevant.
In this case it seems like the appeal of those clips is smol gura.
I think it's more likely JP fans are fine with foreign fans because it makes their Oshi feel more popular and loved.

>> No.13043732

>>13042639
Why are numbers getting worse every month?

>> No.13043850

>>13043732
For Ina and Gura, they didn't stream for the first week, but I have no idea about Council except Sana. And it's weird for Irys, I feel like she's also grinding for SCs but there is a bump right there for each stream, even her 700k celebration didn't earn much.

>> No.13043861

>>13043732
Improve your reading reps anon, that's not a monthly SC numbers Kek,

>> No.13043868

>>13043732
If you only count 2021 all of them are trending up except Gura. Gura is trending down. Even if you use the cope bug it is just a scaler which has no affects on trends.

>> No.13043898

>>13043524
just noticed gura has only 6 streams this month

>> No.13043910

>>13043868
for >>13043524

>> No.13043914

>>13043524
Visual proof that Gura is a low tier chuuba.

Most popular VTuber my ass. More like Most dead subs Vtuber

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Kuzuha's incline moment.

>> No.13043940

>>13043346
Compared this the millions of views from clips that Pekora, Marine, Kuzuha, etc get? Pathetic. Also, clips are shit if no one watches your streams. That goes for the pathetic Korean market as well. Even HoloJP is getting more clips there than HoloEN now. Why is this branch so useless these days?

>> No.13043958

>>13043492
Well that's because that clipper is pretty much Gura dedicated.
Here's one that does compilations of all EN stuff on a weekly basis (yes most thumbnails feature Gura, but the clips themselves are pretty evenly spread).
There was also a pretty popular channel focused on Mori with good numbers, though alas I can't recall the name.

>> No.13043995

>>13043898
yeah only 6 streams 2 of them being DMC and one shill sponsor.

>> No.13043998

>>13043919
A little before that, it was a story arc of waging war against the biggest leaders, it was an underdog story, but he also had a big bump when he was playing Minecraft for the first time

>> No.13044043

>>13043346
If you're interesting you get clips, there's a reason gen 5 is is considered a disappointment in Japan since even 5ch acknowledges Myth is more talented.

>> No.13044050
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Pekora's incline moment.
May 2020 median: 27k >>13043524
MGS series + Dragon Quest V

>> No.13044056

>>13043914
I really want to see Susan cull Gura's subs instead. Let's see how many inactive subs she get. The end result is probably around 300-500k at best.

>> No.13044073

>>13043940
Schizo no one said any EN are anywhere near as comparatively popular in JP as JP are worldwide. What the fuck prompted this diatribe?

>> No.13044076

Fuck off you spamming schizo, you idiots better not be giving these shitheads (you)s for shitting up the thread.

>> No.13044081

>>13043524
Can you add the number of streams they did for each month?

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>>13043958
Fucking forgot the image.

>> No.13044126

Gura being actively embarrassed by her numbers is one of those what if’s that will always bother me. If she was half the numberfag Pekora was what would her peak look like? But that’s just not who she is and she clearly doesn’t give a fuck at this point. Gotta just accept it

>> No.13044128

>>13043998
well technically he was inclining since late 2019. I remember he had the highest SC stream record back then (his 3D stream I think)

>> No.13044175

>Gen5 schizo and EN schizo both present
they really need them (you)s

>> No.13044185

>>13043517
>holofans mostly seem okay with foreigners
You can be right wing and nationalist and still be ok with foreigners. Jap natioanlists love white tourists who come over and talk about how great Japan is, they love having their egos stroked. What they don't want is mass immigration or interracial marriages and mixed race kids.

>> No.13044204

>>13044073
A bunch of others in previous thread.

>> No.13044217

Is there any record of every pekora's mgs stream?

>> No.13044288

>>13044126
Because she is lazy, unproductive and she has a silver spoon. That's why she does not deserve the spot. It's good that many viewers realized this and left her for otherbJP girls already.

>> No.13044293

>>13044073
That's wrong, if you look at polls in Japan you'll see that HoloEN is more popular than several JP gens

>> No.13044296

>>13044073
LOL You read that whole thing and this is your takeaway?
Gura's clips straight up get more views than Kuzuha/Pekora/Marine's so he's already wrong.
There's around 6 mil views for Gura's "a" moment. That's before we count derivatives like animations that use Gura's voice like Lightning McQueen, DuDul's animations..etc.

>no one said any EN are anywhere near as comparatively popular in JP as JP are worldwide
Don't want to start shit, but they are arguably more popular if we look at clip views, VOD views, subs...etc.
Not close if we're talking about raw CCV tho.
To say they're not close isn't really true.

>> No.13044347

>>13044217
https://youtube.com/c/PekoSubs
Actually surprised this guy hasn't blown up considering he fully translates Pekora's MGS playthroughs

>> No.13044358

>>13044296
VODs don't matter. VODs don't matter. VODs don't matter. VODs don't matter. VODs don't matter. VODs don't matter.

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So what happened here

>> No.13044412

Is the number of clips for one vtuber an important factor to consider?

>> No.13044434

>>13044358
Anon just because people are pretending to be retarded in thread doesn't mean you should too just to fit in

>> No.13044447

>>13044371
youtube problems and susei made another stream.

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I'm pretty sure Selen is prettymuch on Kiara level now there getting simaller views playing the same game. Hololive better watch out.

>> No.13044485

>>13044296
Why. Are. you. trying. to. argue. in. good. faith. with. the. anti. EN. Schizo.
No for real, are you really that bored anon, that you must actively give the shitter (you)s? They don't care about arguments, context, or anything. All they want to do is shit on EN every chance they get regardless of the reason.

>> No.13044491

>>13044412
it shows part of their popularity.
like moss streamers.

>>13044460
kaira got 4.5k on her latest one. So no.

>> No.13044497
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>>13044371
Someone save this pic

>> No.13044569

>>13044460
Lol, lmao

>> No.13044575

>>13044485
I purposely didn't respond to the ENschizo lmao

>> No.13044577

>>13044412
>number of clips with high views
ftfy

>> No.13044581

>>13044347
Just look at how many videos they put out and the gaps between videos.

>> No.13044624

>>13044460
Shit numbers selenfag. Comeback here if she gets atleast 4k on a non apex stream.

>> No.13044678

>>13044485
Sheesh, all this anger over 1 shitposter.

>> No.13044696

>>13044624
LMAO Selen isn't on Kiara's level, but she's gotten 4k+ on L4D and Phasmo before.
Move the goalpost to 5k if you want to copy and paste this next time.

>> No.13044724

>>13044485
One of these days the numbers thread would actually be about numbers and not numberniggers trying to push their agenda.

>> No.13044750

>>13044460
3-4 times the CCV = similar views.
ogey

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>>13044460

>> No.13044775

>>13044696
arent those collabs tough

>> No.13044781

>>13044575
My bad, I tagged the wrong person and now I look like an idiot, I had two people tagged and deleted the wrong one. I meant to tag this dude. >>13044073

>> No.13044832

>>13044460
Elira is hogging all the viewers with her meme stream.

>> No.13044858

>>13044696
Why would i move the goalpost? Selenfag can comeback again if she gets 4k. Glorifying a 1.5k viewers is legit retarded.

>> No.13044859

>>13044832
Gotta ration out the 7k viewers NijiEN has.

>> No.13044870

>>13044126
My favorite what if is, what if Pekora doesn't hold back in her numberfagging.
>Told stream that she always want to guerilla snipe empty evening timeslots if she wanted too, but she doesn't want to look shameless.
> Only limits her stream time because she doesn't want to ruin her voice.

>> No.13044948

>>13044296
Ok let me rephrase.
They have a lower amount of translated to japanese clips, and the clips have less views, than JPs have translated to EN clips (and views on those clips).
I cannot in any way prove or disprove that Japs are watching the internationally big clips ENs get, which yes, are very very very popular.

>> No.13044996

When will Selen beat the tutorial boss Sana? We're comparing 2.75k vs 5.5k mind you.

>> No.13045008

>>13044870
>wow guys what if Pekora was superhuman what would her numbers be then
Bigger, I would say.

>> No.13045168

>>13042639
Takamori really are on another level when it comes to SC's, not a single council member is even in the same ballpark. It did seem like Kronii could be on their level at the start, but now she can't even keep up with them.

>> No.13045268

>>13044996
for this stream? or median?

>> No.13045326

>>13045268
Median CCV for 2 weeks.

>> No.13045375

>>13045326
no apex this week so no

>> No.13045386

Can NijiEN poach Gura?

>> No.13045460

>>13044485
This is the number thread. EN gets low numbers in proportion to their subcounts. This really is undeniable.

>> No.13045478

>>13045386
This is what we have to deal with now that Holo dominance is so severe. It’s not even a fight anymore so all we can do is shitpost and counter shitpost until something interesting happens

>> No.13045531

>>13045386
Why would they when Selen has been mogging her recently?

>> No.13045568

>>13045531
the fat chink? nah, she's still a midget

>> No.13045585

>>13044497
Chumpedos and VODviews cope. Typical

>> No.13045705

>>13045386
Don't need to.
Since June Selen has gained about 3k, gura has lost 3k. If these trends continue Selen will be ahead by February.

>> No.13046005

>>13045531
>>13045585
>>13045705
Why do you turn this humble numbers thread into a house of lies?

>> No.13046079

>>13043850
It seems hard for her to get more than ~2k per stream. However the 700k celebration is still her 2nd most superchatted stream outside of the opening, and some of the superchats for it are in the previous members only stream. Her 100 days celebration was also like 25 days before and 700k isn't that important of a milestone.

>> No.13046127

>>13046005
Gura's median CCV in June: 21k
Gura's median CCV in October: 18k
Selen's median CCV in Juna: 0
Selen's median CCV in October: 2.7k

Who has grown and who has reclined?

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>>13046127

>> No.13046264

>>13046127
This thread can't handle numbers despite being a number thread. Anon, you have my thanks.

>> No.13046266

>>13038736
this broke the nijiniggers, they are hallucinating

>> No.13046329

these dragoons are retarded. please beat VSpo first before comparing yourselves to holoEN. Midgets.

>> No.13046349

nijimales vs. holosta-pfffthahahahaa

>> No.13046478

>>13044460
>Look!! My favorite vtuber got 1.5k!!
>HololiveEN is so dead now

>> No.13046520

>>13046478
You're setting yourself up for a grudge post.

>> No.13046987

>>13046478
It'd be funny if it wasn't true

>> No.13047124
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We appreciate the concern, but take care of your own shit first

>> No.13047266

>>13047124
Females haven't been ahead of the males since September of 2019. Why don't people like Nijifemales
>muh unicorns
It has to be more than that. I mean people were watching them a lot last year.

>> No.13047350

>>13047266
nijisanji is full of fujoshits

>> No.13047446

>>13047266
Thet are solidifying their bsse dambass. Slow and steady.

>> No.13047519

>>13047266
Men are more entertaining than women
Name 1 entertainment industry other than porn and vtubing where women sweep the top seats.

>> No.13047557

>>13047266
Some people have switched to Hololive and VSPO, multiple females retiring has affected the situation as well probably.

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>>13047266

>> No.13047604

>>13047561
So karaoke singers are worth more of a metric to actual viewers of videos?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKMFfC_Lx0E

>> No.13047673

>>13047266
Nijisanji had their own series of catastrophes on 2020 starting from the dodgeball incident and ending up with Roa/Meiro. It didn't get as much attention as hololive because hololive's yabs were much more bombastic but it undeniably had a massive impact on nijisanji and their fans willingness to stick with them, and unlike hololive who managed to turn those incidents into success stories with EN's debut and Miko's comeback nijisanji just... Slowly bled out viewers until you have what you see here today

>> No.13047690

C99冬コミのサークル数内訳
アイマス(882)
VTuber(836) ※ホロライブ484
型月(782)
東方(770)
艦これ(752)
ラブライブ(252)
アズレン(144)

>> No.13047705

>>13047446
Anon stop pretending to be retarded to fit in

>> No.13047716

>>13047673
Why do you keep saying the dodgeball incident as if it meant anything huge, to the point where people laughed at it, what about ARK drama that caused people to hate Nijisanji fans, what about the past shit management?

>> No.13047806

>>13047716
Nigger schizos spooked people into feeling less motivated to get invested. Schizos obsessed with very trivial shit who lack any respect for the streamer cause every single problem in the industry.

>> No.13047878

>>13047690
>※ホロライブ484
More than half of the Vtuber category is just Hololive? Or am I missing something?

>> No.13047968

>>13047690
>東方
Any reason why I see this tag on indies' videos.

>> No.13047990

This thread is the only place where this dodgeball thing is mentioned. Multiple times and every day too, for some reason. The only other time I’ve heard it was when it happened and someone posted screenshots from matome and 5ch, and it was just forgotten next day.

>> No.13048046

>>13047878
yes

>> No.13048089

anyone have a link for the JP numberfagging thread on 5ch? Lost track of it ever since they switched boards.

>> No.13048142

Elira was hanging around 2.1k - 2.3k the whole stream, and now that she's nearing the end it's spiking up towards 3k.
It proves that investing time in something pays off at the end.

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Can I get the numbers on the memberships for Council members? Bae is recently getting a lot of Korean fans and I'm wondering if she is caught up to Mumei yet.

>> No.13048175

>>13047990
He used to post it as the volley ball incident before.

>> No.13048229

>>13047690
I can't wait for all those Hololive doujins.
Also, holy shit AL reclined.

>> No.13048266

>>13047990
Because this is the only place that discusses nijis beyond chat room level stream reactions.

>> No.13048306

>>13048229
The chinkout hit them hard

>> No.13048332

>>13048266
>this is the only place that discusses Nijisanji drama
ftfy

>> No.13048334

>>13047690
>アイマス(882)
>ラブライブ(252)
That level of flex is superb.

>VTuber(836) ※ホロライブ484
Not very much, 452 to 484 isn't that big of a difference.

>>13047990
people mistake correlation with causation. It's a memorable event to him because it was silly.

>> No.13048383

>>13047990
It's one schizo who believes it to be some big event probs. I don't know if it had any big effect in the grand scheme of things instead of being just another thing.

>> No.13048417

>>13048334
It is when you realize that those 452 are further divided into Nijisanji, 774, and .evil

>> No.13048422

>>13048229
>chinks get rid of popular nip ships
>chinks get rid of popular nip VAs
doujinshi market probably worried that they can't sell their stuff to china too

>> No.13048437

>>13048160
I'm sure someone could run a script to add together all the members that council have gained from their streams. It wouldn't be perfect, but it'd provide a rough number of a minimum* (some people could have lapsed and remembered, so not perfect)

>> No.13048447

>>13048422
Platinum...

>> No.13048505

>>13048417
>774, and .evil
Who? I doubt they are that big of a portion. I'm looking forward to all the Niji doujinshi since Niji females are delicious.

>> No.13048533

>>13048142
Wow 3.5k, nice

>> No.13048540

>>13048505
Mio > All nijifemale

>> No.13048543

>>13048437
*To check Hololyzer, which has numbers of members gained per stream

>> No.13048547

>>13048332
If only

>> No.13048577

>>13048540

based mio enjoyer

>> No.13048593

>>13048437
>>13048543
That won't give you anywhere close to correct numbers. You need to parse all chat messages and count unique viewers across streams. I do it for IRyS.

>> No.13048613

>>13048417
The later two make 52 of them at best. Would be nice if somebody could break up the whole vtuber tag and not just list holo numbers.

>> No.13048650

>>13048593
You're right, parsing chat and unique viewers would be more accurate of a baseline.

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>>13048505
Niji got more R-18 doujins than Holo so enjoy it anon.

>> No.13048689

>>13048547
On this board. Don't act smart and think the Nijisanji discussion in here is nuanced and objective in the slightest.

>> No.13048719

>>13048654
When the only way you can get popularity is by selling your body... that's kinda sad.

>> No.13048725

>>13048654
So we already have a breakdown of r-18 vs not, or are you saying that from the past numbers.

>> No.13048787

nijikek keep losing
https://www.twitch.tv/flowergam0326/clip/VictoriousMiniatureGnatSaltBae-etP9dOB09HAKWJv-

>> No.13048797

>>13048654
>Niji got more R-18 doujins than Holo so enjoy it anon.
How much of it is BL? Fujos are pretty productive at these things and I doubt fujos like hololive since they're mostly female and Miko/Marine called for all BL to be burned all fujos strung up from streetlights.

>> No.13048850

>>13048797
>I doubt fujos like hololive
>who is Marine

>> No.13048860

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PQ4XuFvup0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4cfd-0JHrI
Top 10 combined viewed songs for the week of 11/07 - 11/13:
10. Vampire - Kiara - 200,559
9. Monster - OKFAMS - 203,245
8. GHOST - Suisei - 231,693
7. Graveyard Shift - Mori ft. BOOGEY VOXX - 266,985
6. Yoi no Yo, Yoi - Ayame - 268,439
5. GETCHA! - Suisei x Mori - 307,431
4. Stellar Stellar - Suisei - 362,111
3. KING! - Gura x Mori - 388,587
2. end of a life - Mori - 395,587
1. Myth or Treat - HoloMyth - 589,311
OKFAMS' cover is doing way better than I thought.

>> No.13048924

>>13048797
Miko and Marine actively laughed at all Fujos and called for a Fujo genocide. Then when the Fujos were starting shit Miko just went and played GTA, lol. Miko and Marine are based.

>> No.13048929

>>13048654

All ChroNoiR and Mito ass

>> No.13048935

>>13048725
Someone posted this last week
> Nijisanji - 92 results
> Hololive - 88 results
> Kizuna Ai - 23 results

>> No.13048953

>>13048334
Math Reps anon... 484 + 452 =/= 836

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>>13048860
>those graphs
Sweet jesus what a find.

>> No.13048975

>>13048924
>missed the apology and break/kneeling

>> No.13048999

>>13048689
Pretty sure "this" in >>13048266 was implying this thread and not the whole board. And it's clearly not the only place that discusses niji drama.

>> No.13049039

>>13048924
Is Marine prone to suicidal tendencies?

>> No.13049095

>>13048935
>hololive is nothing but cute girls and Rushia
>less porn
I don't doubt you but I can't help but be disappointed.

>> No.13049199

>>13038736
Make one for the Nijis please anon.

>> No.13049304

>>13048654
Hololive just dominating the floor space. Seems the tide is turning even over in Japan. Nijisanji is quickly fading into irrelevance.

>> No.13049321

>>13049304
Meanwhile
>>13047424

>> No.13049399

>>13049321

So, ChroNoiR popular and Niji girls going down? Sounds like normal news

>> No.13049469

>>13049321
Comiket is the only one that matters anon. I can set up a bunch of tables in my back yard, have a bunch of people draw shitty stick figure drawings of Hololive members, and call it "out own comiket".

Comiket is the big deal one that actually draws all the big names. Hence those numbers hold a lot more weight.

>> No.13049476

>>13049304
Try to be a bit more knowledgeable if you are trying to bait.

>> No.13049482

>>13049399
And Niji specific events getting more circles than Holo specific events.

>> No.13049493

>>13048334
Anon...Surely you mean 484 vs 252....

>> No.13049511

>>13049469
Comiket is the only one that is known to surface level plebbit shits like you.

>> No.13049532

>>13049511
you will never be japanese.

>> No.13049569

>>13049532
And you will never know what the fuck you're talking about

>> No.13049579

>>13049476
>>13049511
Cope

Your lame Niji exclusive event draws a bunch of shitty amateur fujo artists who draw Kuzushit and his gay side kick butt fucking each other. Comiket actually draws big name artists and circles and they have overwhelmingly chosen Hololive over Nijisanji.

>> No.13049634

I noticed nobody has posted proof of this so called magical Nijisanji exclusive event while we have proof of Hololive destroying Nijisanji at comiket. I'm thinking its some imaginary cope by the Nijikeks that popped up after the Comiket news came out.

>> No.13049660

>>13049532
And you will forever be a surface level pleb.
>>13049634
You don't really follow vtubers huh?

>> No.13049665

>>13049321
I know this isn't going to be perfect, but between those events and comiket...
484 + 95 = 579 for Hololive
252 + 244 = 496 for Nijisanji
Now of course there might be some overlap between standalone events and Comiket, but it could help explain the disparity in numbers.

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Today's superchats

>> No.13049711

>>13049634
Didn't Hololive have their exclusive event too?

>> No.13049712

>>13049660
>You don't really follow vtubers huh?
No, I don't. I only watch Hololive. Why would I settle for something inferior when I already found the best?

>>13049665
Case closed. Hololive wins.

>> No.13049716

>>13047519
>Men are more entertaining than women
Apparently not in VTubing, especially in the West.

>> No.13049763

>>13048787
Jesus fuck, why would anyone listen to the County Roads cover

>> No.13049764

>>13049671
That was Nina’s 100k sub stream.

>> No.13049773

>>13049671
Weren't the Nijikeks coping that while their literal who outfit relay wouldn't get the numbers crown at least they were guaranteed to top the super chat list? What happened Nijikeks?

>> No.13049778

>>13049716
I said to name 1 industry other than porn and women... thanks for reiterating my point though.

>> No.13049790

>>13049671
>Lamy defeated NijiMale event
Was her stream unusual?

>> No.13049793

No ID 3D this year

https://twitter.com/hololive_Id/status/1460110311407583235

>> No.13049810

>>13049712
I appreciate you are actually trying even if the bait is a bit weak.
>>13049671
Lamy did really well considering.

>> No.13049816

>>13049671
>Nina higher than Calli
Oh no oh no oh no Holobros
Is Nina the new EN SC Queen?
Mommy, I kneel...

>> No.13049832

>>13049660
NTA, but I know the event exists and that uh, yea. Doujins. I've seen them on SadPanda. But ya, EOPnewfag board, so it really should come as no surprise if people haven't heard much of it.

>> No.13049863

>>13049511
kek better have LAM drawing my oshi than having some hikki fujo with unwashed pussy scribbling your darling Kuzushit.

>> No.13049864

>>13049790
Birthday Countdown stream.

>> No.13049874

>>13049793

Nothing says that it will not be this years but ''it will be rescheduled to when the situation is feasible'' kinda gives that vibe, yeah. Well, expected I guess.

>> No.13049877

>>13049790
Just a midnight birthday wait. Expect more the live

>> No.13049883

>>13049793
Isn't Japanese border already open?
I can see it's still hard to enter because small entry quota

>> No.13049909

>>13049579
Fujos drawing stick figures are still people and watch things. By all definitions Nijisanji wins the doujin scene.

Quantity > quality, this is a numbers thread short bus.

>> No.13049911

>>13049793
Unfortunate, but not unsurprising due to the extra time-length of the enforcement of travel bans.

>> No.13049930

>>13049671
Damnit Genzuki, you should've milked just 4 more akas and that probably would've been the first time with 5 over $10k

>> No.13049986 [DELETED] 

>>13049793
>>13049883
>>13049874
Found the indogs. No wonder the thread is so shit. Go back to facebook.

>> No.13049990

Hololive has more booths at Comiket because Hololive works a lot more with the greater artist community for designs and the like. Nijisanji does a lot of their work in house and doesn't interact with the greater community as much. Artists have their entire careers made due to working with Hololive while you would probably be hard pressed to name a single Nijisanji "mama".

>> No.13050043

>>13049909
>would rather have 10 pounds of shit to eat instead of 1 pound of perfectly cooked steak
That is the classic Nijisanji mind set. More is always better no matter how garbage it is. That is the philosophy of the entire company.

>> No.13050050

>>13049793
https://www.mofa.go.jp/ca/fna/page4e_001053.html
Myth probably can't go to Japan as well

>> No.13050083

>>13049990
Why do you keep saying this shit when Nijisanji literally shares mamas/papas with Hololive. Almost everyone's mama is public aside from those arists who didn't want to be mentioned but some autists have connected the artstyle. Korone's mama made Shellin too. Lackpapa made Lain and Ririmu.

>> No.13050104

>>13050050
Oh well. It would have had good numbers but the myth girls don't really mind, it's only this board who wants them to have 3D debuts and lives.
>>13050043
Numbers are the most important thing on earth. Bigger numbers are better and define who is better. Nijisanji is better.

>> No.13050130

>>13050083
>Lackpapa made Lain and Ririmu.
They don't let Flare collab with them so it doesn't count.

>> No.13050204

>>13050083
Cope

Nobody has their career made due to working with Nijisanji. Yet Hololive artists become sensations overnight.

>> No.13050233

>>13050050
>159 countries/regions
Why the fuck do they make a list of countries that are denied access instead of countries that are allowed access. There's fucking 195 give or take a few countries in the world. That gives around 36 countries that do have access, give or take depending on if there are any non-nations that are on that list since I'm too lazy to go over them.

>> No.13050265

>>13050204
The fuck do I have to cope about, you're just lying and saying Nijisanji does their art in-house when that isn't true.
>>13050130
And yet Aruran has collabed with Lain, crazy.

>> No.13050308

>>13050265
That just means they're nicer to him than Flare. It's worse that they will do it with him since it just shows they are excluding Flare in particular.

>> No.13050336

>>13050233
>But you didn't explicitly list my country as one of the ones that aren't allowed in!
Yes, people would unironically argue this, even if you opted for a whitelist approach and say "Anyone not on the list is immediately a nogo"

>> No.13050347

>>13050308
I wonder why.

>> No.13050374

>>13050265
And more concessions are made. Eventually you will come around to agreeing with my point.

>> No.13050419

>>13050308
We have same mama collab anon. Okayu and Shiina monthly collab.

>> No.13050451

>>13050347
Nothing on Flare's side I assure you. She's no stranger to collabs and she is quite nice. She has a good working relationship with 774 but her Niji sisters don't give her the time of day. Ririmu is totally up her alley as far as character designs go.
>>13050419
That doesn't discredit that Flare is bullied.

>> No.13050459

>>13049793
Wonder how much it’ll get when it finally happens

>> No.13050474

>>13049793
At this point, it's easier to set up a studio in the US and hold all the EN/ID debuts there than having to deal with Japan's coronatravel autismo.

>> No.13050516

>>13050374
>Nijisanji does their art in house
>I point out that they don't
>you start pretending I replied about popularity and numbers
Writings in the walls, the shadows, what do they mean?

>> No.13050529

>>13050050
>Denial of entry
>Not China
The fuck, Japan

>> No.13050596

>>13050474
They could easily get Mori 3D since she lives in Japan.

Renting the US studio will be worth it even with the money investment. I'm sure Mori doesn't want 3D until the rest of the myth girls get it too but the sheer amount of money they would make from an actual Mori concert or Mori performing at Holofes 3 will make back whatever they pay for renting a studio so the rest of Myth can get 3D.

>> No.13050672

>>13050474
>Speak English
>must be in US
do your reps.

>> No.13050698

>>13049863
LAM-anon...
https://twitter.com/ramdayo1122/status/1455374384684679172?s=20

>> No.13050711

>>13050596
I'm pretty sure it's a staffing issue, not a money issue. Cover basically has no employees stateside so setting up everying would be tricky even if they did rent a studio in the US.

>> No.13050755

>>13050698
COMMISION
keep coping nijinigger.

>> No.13050761

>>13050596
>Cover fast-tracking a member of a generation
Yeah, they're not THAT dumb. I keep saying that the chances for IRyS getting her 3D are much higher because she herself doesn't belong to a generation and even that may be a double guess because they're probably thinking the optics of it already are bad enough given the reaction to her having music fully funded by Cover.

>> No.13050793

>>13050672
>can't read between the lines
ESL or just retarded?

>> No.13050826

>>13050761
>given the reaction to her having music fully funded by Cover
Isn't that only chicken sperging out?

>> No.13050856

>>13050755
I forgot LAMsensei did the KING calligula art for free, she's so nice...

>> No.13051008

>>13050856
LAM fucking called into Ollie's birthday call in show, lol. Clearly much closer to Hololive.
>She
LAM calling into Ollie's birthday show was the first time people realized "she" was a dude.

https://youtu.be/v6o7LBrQs-I?t=19502

>> No.13051098

>>13051008
>the mama of a vtuber called into her child's stream
Wtf? This has to be a first. Next you're going to tell me everything LAM does for Hololive including designs is just out of the goodness of her heart and not compensated in money... Such nice artists

>> No.13051121

>>13050856
>she's
look! clueless nijinigger!!

>> No.13051192

Damn nijifags already preemptively coping because they know their liver won't beat Lamy today eh

>> No.13051449

>>13050761
Noone that actually has common sense thinks that way. If you see anynone sperging out in YT about that, people would correct it in droves. Moona already shared that Cover do provide funds for OGs. And Cover did pay for the whole Bloom album. Everyone knows about Azki. So an Irys getting fully funded isn't that surprising

>> No.13051551

Top superchats for November so far
>kson - $60,126
>Rushia - $51,522
>Lamy - $41,533
>Miko - $34,352
>Kuzuha - $31,876
>Ibrahim - $28,787
>Nene - $28,674
>Mori - $25,899
>Pekora - $24,654
>Haru - $24,258
>Marine - $23,857
>Matsuri - $20,468
>Flare - $20,465
If Lamy is ever going to win a month this will have to be it, if she has a very strong birthday today and a good rest of the month it's possible, but if not Kuzuha is still the only one to break the big two domination in over a year

>> No.13051667
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Name / November 2020 / November 2021 (Gain)

>1. Pekora 46,101 / 34,711 (-11,390) -33%
>2. Gura 46,006 / 18,097 (-27,909) -154%
>3. Marine 27,032 / 29,578 (+2,546) +9%
>4. Korone 24,632 / 19,969 (-4,663) -23%
>5. Miko 23,807 / 26,394 (+2,587) +10%
>6. Aqua 23,692 / 38,096 (14,404) +38%
>7. Ayame 22,959 / 0
>8. Shion 22,819 / 17,871 (-4,948) -28%
>9. Amelia 21,679 / 12,754 (-8,925) -70%
>10. Lize 21,348 / 13,057 (-8,291) -63%
>11. Kuzuha 21,076 / 27,328 (+6,252) +23%
>12. Ina 20,493 / 8,852 (-11,641) -132%
>13. Rushia 18,265 / 19,400 (+1,135) +6%
>14. Mito 17,380 / 13,584 (-3,796) -28%
>15. Mori 16,939 / 9,880 (-7,059) -71%
>16. Fubuki 15,834 / 8,703 (-7,131) -82%
>17. Watame 15,808 / 8,233 (-7,575) -92%
>18. Haachama 14,605 / 7,885 (-6,720) -85%
>19. Subaru 14,530 / 19,075 (+4,545) +24%
>20. Suisei 14,212 / 23,556 (+9,344) +40%

>> No.13051777

https://twitter.com/BoraNun2434/status/1460125414488252416
Bora will graduate. NijiKR....

>> No.13051807

>>13051777
Guess NijiKR is really dead then. This is the final nail in the coffin.

>> No.13051853

>>13051777
That's a huge blow for NijiKR.

>> No.13051860

>>13051777
Did she say a reason?

>> No.13051866

>>13051777
rip i guess

>> No.13051883

>>13051860
Read the tweet.

>> No.13051896

>>13051777
Holy shit, NijiKR bye bye

>> No.13051913

>>13051449
I don't want Irys to get 3D yet. She doesn't have the stamina to do a 3D concert yet. She's taking voice lessons so I hope it helps. Guesting in Radio Shows though would be nice to expand her local fanbase. It would also be nice if collabs with JP senpais. I have yet to see her collab with a JP senpai except Polka. We know she has hang out with a few of them offline like Korone and Nene but not on a stream. I know she's going on a date this week with another JP senpai too.

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>>13051777
here's the image

>> No.13051929

>>13051777
Closing the entire branch won't be far off after this. RIP NijiKR.

>> No.13051946

>>13051667
>-154%
Mathchama?

>> No.13052005

>>13051917
>https://twitter.com/BoraNun2434/status/1460125414488252416
Damn. RIP. I guess Merise might debut a vtuber after 6 months

>> No.13052020

>>13051946
NTA but the % is relative to current rather than previous number. Up to personal preference which one you want to go with but it's one of the issues when measuring stuff with %.

>> No.13052031

>>13051777
I think having a soft ban on everything Holo related doomed the KR branch. Indies and other groups have been exploding in growth ever since they started pandering to Holo crowd. Anycolor is really fucking retarded.

>> No.13052055

>>13052031
Towa is one of Bora's good friends you retard.

>> No.13052063

>>13051777
>https://twitter.com/BoraNun2434/status/1460125414488252416
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

>> No.13052090

>>13052031
Bora collabed with Towa a lot anon

>> No.13052110

>>13051777
its over... Isegye idol is unstoppable now.

>> No.13052154

>>13051777
>muh studies
She's doing the right thing but still, see ya. According to my math Bora made up more than 60% of NijiKR's views.

>> No.13052171

>>13051777
>HoloKR opens audition next year
>Bora finishes her studies
>Bora joins HoloKR

>> No.13052228

>>13052154
What is her range CCV?

>> No.13052255

>>13051777
Doesn't really affect anything since she's a Japanese. She should transfer to a Nip company.

>> No.13052271

>>13052228
2.5kish

>> No.13052285

>>13052154
Education in Korea is pretty difficult. If NijiKR was popular, then Bora would have a reason for her parents. NijiKR isn't popular and she's the only one earning for the branch and their managers. So, graduation is the way to go.

>> No.13052300

Is Selen the biggest foreign Niji talent now?

>> No.13052369

>>13051777
And with her goes NijiKR

>> No.13052385

October 2021

Isegye idol
>Gosegu 2,635
>Jururu 2,389
>Ine 2,114
>Viichan 2,010
>Jingburger 1,847
>Lilpa 1,805

>ronarona 4,314
>gangG 1,792
>sea story 1,310
>flowergam 1,141
>gkfl33 271

NijisanjiKR
>Bora Nun 2,563
>Roha Lee 715
>Ban Hada 393
>Ray Akira 386
>Nagi So 340
>Nari Yang 325
>Seffyna 249
>Siu Lee 174
>Ha Yun 166
>Song Mia 161
>Suha Min 155
>Jiyu Oh 145
>Na Sera 141
>Ara Chae 134
>Ko Yami 119
>Lee On 118
>Hari Ryu 117
>Chiho Han 104
>Gaon 74
>Kiru Shin 57

its over...

>> No.13052397

Niji KR's second most popular member graduated 5 months ago and now its number one... highest subbed member remaining is Roha with 68k

>> No.13052457

Bora is now Luna 2.0

>> No.13052466

>>13052385
>drape yourself in Hololive after they become a meme
>it works
>Holo fans think it's adorable
>JP schizos don't care
Somehow this pisses me off.
>>13052285
Education is always important so I respect her decision and hope it works out for her.

>> No.13052527

>>13052466
maybe jp schizos dont care because they dont know this yet, lots of nips hate koreans and will find every single way to hate them more

>> No.13052570

>>13051777
Nooooo Bora :c

Hopefully she will reincarnate in the future, feels bad for her Nijipals and her other friends in general (Poor Towa, there goes one of her squad friends)

>> No.13052577

>>13052527
Nah, accepting foreign engagement is much more prevalent in Hololive than it is in Niji. It turned out this way for the fans because the talents themselves embraced the foreign fans.

>> No.13052612

Man it's kind of sad in a way to see the burning ship that is NijiKR start to sink beneath the waves. First you had the fucking scandals and the enjou with the associated mass graduations supposedly due to military conscription. Then Yuya graduated for similar reasons to Bora in June when she had become popular with the JOPs and EOPs and now Bora for the same reasons. The branch is fucking cursed which is a real shame since they've got some OK talents and nice designs. Hangul filters me though so I've never really watched them seriously so I don't feel anything more than just the sadness of watching a shitshow that could've been something more.

>> No.13052642

>>13052385
>>Ban Hada 393
It's time. She's going to the moon.

>> No.13052660

>>13052385
NijiKR will be like NijiID in due time after this

>> No.13052673

>>13051777
isn't Bora the biggest nijiKR?

>> No.13052819

What about my merch cope...
Volume...
Slow and steady...

>> No.13052865

>>13052466
it's not that important for a woman

>> No.13052882

>>13052673
by far yes

>> No.13052920

>>13052819
Trust the plan anon

>> No.13052975

Nijibros this is what happens when you keep using the same shitpost against holo, karma gives holochad a brand new shitpost

>> No.13053038
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she joined the wrong company kek. easy $1k+ from the gooks

>> No.13053063

>>13051667
>-154%
Jesus fucking Christ, EN was a mistake

>> No.13053246

>>13051667
>Ayame 0

>> No.13053268

>>13051777
It sucks, but honestly I don't buy the studies reasoning for graduation.

Sukoya Kana is taking a hiatus from June 2021 to March 2022 for studies, basically 0 streams apart from official Nijisanji channel events, and Anycolor is fine with it.
There are Nijis that stream a handful a times a month and some that disappear for months.

If Bora wanted to take it easy on the streaming or even take a hiatus for school, the company would definitely let her do it.
It's a rrat, but either she wants to quit vtubing or a better opportunity came up.

>> No.13053291

>>13053268
HOLOKR IKZ!!!!

>> No.13053313

>>13051777
Predictions on her graduation stream floor and ceiling? I'd 15k floor and 70k ceiling.

>> No.13053338

>>13051667
jesus how do we save ayame bros?

>> No.13053361

>>13053268
>source
>i made it up lol

>> No.13053373

>>13053313
>70k ceiling
kek no. For the sake of comparison, what was Lulu's average CCV?

>> No.13053394

>>13051777
>yuya previously the most subbed niji kr
>grad
>now bora took the spot
>also grad
The top spot in nijiKR is cursed I swear

>> No.13053408

>>13053361
>It's a rrat
NTA, but jeez learn to read

>> No.13053423

>>13053338
Pray that the Mama Wolf will invite her Oni daughter to play games.

>> No.13053436

Didn't bora recently gets a new outfit?

>> No.13053468

>>13053338
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECkxzFgbJqQ
>946k views in 11 days
>Contrail is at 936k
She's blessed anon, no saving needed.

>> No.13053469

>>13052005
She was actually scouted by CR before so maybe she'll end up there.

>> No.13053480

>>13053313
>15k floor
You mean the ceiling right? Even that is a stretch considering they could barely muster 5k for the debut of their latest gen.

>> No.13053482

>>13053268
Yuya quit for the same reasons. Anon, KR mindset is notoriously tunnel-visioned on the
>muh degree at accredited university for [stereotypical high paying job] is the only way to succeed.
I don't know if Bora thinks that way but she for sure felt societal pressure for it. Some people who actually watch NijiKR can probably fill in here but I think it's a legitimate reason in her case.

>> No.13053553

>>13053436
Coco got her 1 mil celebration costume a week before she graduated lol

>> No.13053564

>>13053482
>she for sure felt societal pressure for it
So much this. Compounded by the fact that speaking mostly in Japanese as a Korean is a big no no over there.

>> No.13053593

I'm watching Towa and she only has 5000 viewers. Is Hololive dying?

>> No.13053625

>>13053593
yes, you can leave the thread now touristchama

>> No.13053626

>>13053593
>only has 5000 viewers
lol newfag bitch

>> No.13053647

>>13053593
You kidding? That's pretty high for Towa. What's she doing, Apex?

>> No.13053667

>>13053647
Yeah she's getting 6k for apex. It's quite rare.

>> No.13053673

>>13053436
>Gibara gets new outfit
>graduates a few weeks later
>Lulu gets new outfit
>graduates a few weeks later
>Bora gets new outfit
>graduates a few weeks later
Apparently for nijis new outfit is synonymous with graduation imminent

>> No.13053684

>>13053673
Did you forget Coco?

>> No.13053698

>>13053482
No one in their right mind is going to go all in on Vtubing or even internet content creation.

Although I do have to admit it does suck that she has to graduate considering there has been precedence of other Nijisanji talents taking extended leaves of absence.

>> No.13053713
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I don't think KR is as fucked as you guys think. I took a look at their numbers and they are similar to ID who's alive 2 years later.

>> No.13053770

>>13053468
Contrail still hasn't hit 1 million yet? I figured it would since he sang it at the concert. Holy shit, lol.

>> No.13053798

>Bora graduate
>HoloID delayed
>It's ONLY Monday

Well fuck

>> No.13053810

>>13053684
Coco got her outfit after her graduation was announced anon.

>> No.13053819

>>13053798
>HoloID delayed
This was expected due to how autistic the Japanese government is being over COVID. The Bora graduation was certainly a surprise though.

>> No.13053848

>>13053819
NIJIBROS CAN'T STOP WINNING
GET FUCKED HOLOFAGGOTS

>> No.13053868

>>13053436
Seems like a sudden new outfit is managements feeble attempt to keep the talent on board.

>> No.13053909

>>13053713
I assume people say fucked as in their branch avg numbers will tank to the depths.
Bora was a titan compared to her branchmates.
Unless everyone in the branch fails to get 50 viewers like NijiIN, Anycolor won't close the branch.
2 graduations in such a short time doesn't look good for morale tho.

>> No.13053939

>>13053819
She told Twappi recently... I hope she isn't crying, she's a bit of a baby.

>> No.13053980

>>13053713
They're not dead, they'll just fade away back into obscurity apart from their home region like ID did. I think about the only two who've got any hopes of taking up the slack there are Ban Hada and of course Lee Roha.
>>13053868
Probably the talents splurging to go out with a bang.

>> No.13053990

>>13053909
I see, in that case I agree, the average for KR in views will go really down. Man, KR is such a unlucky branch. Fist the bully case from the transfer from the merger, then the boys graduating due to enlistment and now two of the most populars graduating due to studies. It amazes me how ID to this day haven't any graduation at all.

>> No.13053998

>>13053939
>I hope she isn't crying
not yet on stream but,
https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1458652948582395907?t=EMK5EO2q8WUnLMoifrpWRA&s=19

>> No.13054002

>a reupload of HoloEN's horrible Country Roads cover with Korean lyrics has 1 million views
What in god's good name...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2QPg5pGD8M

>> No.13054029

>>13053673
VALZ, Aizono...

>> No.13054027

>>13053939
>Sio
>Bora
Towa is cursed being lonely

>> No.13054049

>>13053980
I don't think it changes much. Only niji fans watch them anyway, same for ID and JP. In the case you mean the west.
>>13053939
Towa tweeted weeks ago that she was hoping for november to not end. She's devasted, probably.

>> No.13054065

>>13054002
The fuck lmao

>> No.13054075

>>13053482
>>13053268
She doesn't have exactly blockbuster numbers. There's a very real chance that if she goes on hiatus, she'll come back to a much reduced audience. If she should have some guess of how much she can earn by working a normal job. If that amount is greater than the amount she's earning right now, then there's no real reason for her to come back after college.

>> No.13054132

>>13054027
Nose...

>> No.13054147

People are acting like Bora is a super star just because she was an outlier in her branch. She is still a midget with midget numbers not really worthy of the numbers thread.

>> No.13054171

>>13054002
>>13048787

>> No.13054189

>>13054049
I meant that as in they'll lose the entry point for JOPs Niji fans into NijiKR, not the west in general. Bora wasn't cut out for garnering EOP fans, Ban Hada and Roha are but I don't see them particularly succeeding at that when EOP Nijifans will focus on NijiEN rather than KR.
>>13054002
kek

>> No.13054286

>>13054075
>She doesn't have exactly blockbuster numbers.
In the context of Niji foreign branches, Bora was the biggest.
240k subs, 60k+ VODs, 2-4k CCV is bigger than Selen.

>There's a very real chance that if she goes on hiatus, she'll come back to a much reduced audience.
Following your logic, shouldn't this not matter then? Her audience was "small" to begin with so it's not like having a smaller audience would affect her.
Even if her CCV was cut in half, she would still be the biggest NijiKR.

>If that amount is greater than the amount she's earning right now
I mean, she earned enough from vtubing to buy her parents a car in highschool...

>> No.13054315

>>13053482
Yuya wanted to be a lawyer but she definitely met a lot of opposition in real life over streaming. Lots of >your family puts you in school so why are you playing around

>> No.13054350

>>13049469
As a Touhoufag, Reitaisai > C in terms of big name draws, just sayin

>> No.13054479

>>13054350
Good thing we weren't talking about Touhou you dog fucker. Go back to /jp/.

>> No.13054551

>>13053939
Towa knew about it before this stream, as she knew about Coco for a while.
she can put up a front for the stream but she was down a few times

>> No.13054593

>>13054551
I highly doubt she actually cares

>> No.13054596

>>13054286
>Taking a break
>Risk the whole branch going to 2view levels

>Graduate
>Becomes a martyr to get the company to know that the branch is failing and get them to graduate everyone and close the branch liberating all of them before they waste anymore of their time

>> No.13054610

>13050856
>she's so nice...
Way to out yourself mf
This is so bad, I will not even give a (you) for this

>> No.13054642

>>13054593
I know you don't watch streams anon, but you could have at least seen all the clips of Towa crying and thanking Bora and Shelly for being her teammates and friends.

>> No.13054673

>13054593
Go kys 50 times over anon, I highly doubt anyone actually cares.

>> No.13054716

So like why wont the small time EN vtuber corpos help each other

>> No.13054718

>>13054002
Kek it took up to 5 months for them to get a measly 1M views. Dead audience is dead. Not even the EOPs care about them anymore, they have to attract Asiatic to inflate views.

>> No.13054722

So, some new information about nijiKR that I don't think anyone brought up in the numbers thread before.
The nijiKR anniversary is in January. Despite that, the first anniversary song only just came out this week.
Please keep this in mind if anyone wants to say anything about niji management know what they are dojng when it comes to the kr branch.

>> No.13054822

>>13054716
They do though?
It just doesn't work very well because they are more or less sharing around the same 2k ish audience

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>>13054718

>> No.13054864

I think I now understand why the kr management sees the need for near constant audition and new waves even though they have established themselves(-ish)
With the academic and cultural pressures of South Korea this cycle will continue for the foreseeable future.

>> No.13054899

>>13054722
KR has the worst by far, they are legit bad. ID, EN and JP are good.

>> No.13054975

>>13053713
>>13054083
>>13054864
>>13054391
The fuck is going on?

>> No.13054995

Bora graduating is definitely worse case scenario for NijiKR, and not just because of numbers either. Isn't NijiKr management notoriously so shitty that Bora had to step in just so she can get her mates new outfits? Plus, with that new KR group that's pretty much leeching of the Holos and is actually getting way more traction, NijiKR might turn into NijiID at best and NijiIN at worst. The death knell would be if Hololive suddenly announced a KR branch.

>> No.13055022

>>13054975
Anon needs a (You).

Here's some more for the schizos and dramaniggers.
(You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You)

>> No.13055034

Since people like to compared Gura's Jackbox with Suisei's Mario Party, I'd like to give an update to the current engagement level

>Gura's Jackbox
VOD: 456,763
Comments: 358
Likes: 34k

>Suisei's Mario Party (1st one because it has similar length time as Jackbox)
VOD: 362,466
Comments: 101
Likes: 19k

It still confuses me why Japanese tend to be stingy with likes and comments. This is one cultural aspect I do not understand.

>> No.13055071

>>13054995
Yes, and also see >>13054722
The song that was supposed to celebrate their anniversary literally came in 11 months late.
People like to shit on hololive management but this is what actual bad management looks like.

>> No.13055074

>>13054002
Fucking kek

>> No.13055110

>>13055034
NijiJP have it even worse.
The most recent Kuzuha stream.
427k views.
8.8k likes
55 comments.

>> No.13055126

>>13055034
>Gura's Jackbox is crushing Suisei Mario Party in every stat
>Some people will still say it was a failed stream just because the Suisei one got higher CCV
This is why CCV isn't the be all/end all that Gura antis make it out to be. Looking at these numbers its obvious which stream performed better.

>> No.13055132

>>13055034
The JP stream's likes never stood a chance. A Mori Jump King stream with a 10k peak has more likes than it.
19k is already more than most Niji 3D debuts anyways so HoloJPs already get more likes/comments than pure JOP audiences.
But the VOD views for it aren't bad or unusual, 350k+ for 1.5 hours is about right for 40k.
Gura is just a VOD monster (or her CCV is fucked).

>> No.13055202

>>13055034
Asians are just more reserved with pointless comments (retards and underages not included).

>> No.13055204

>>13054995
Quoting from another anon, because it seems relevant
>>13055105
If what they say is true, then nijiKR was on track to finally right itself and start growing before the graduation of Bora and Yuya basically kneecapped them

>> No.13055209

>>13055126
Gura is a live streamer, not a VODer.

>> No.13055222

>>13055126
Do likes and comments help your VODs to be recommended, like how they do with normal videos?

>> No.13055250

>>13055132
Gura:
Nov 2020 -> 40k CCV, 400k VOD views
Nov 2021 -> 20k CCV, 400k VOD views

Her CCV is fucked.

>>13055209
If VODs are not important, then why do they keep them?

>> No.13055252

>>13055126
>>13055132
>VOD VIEWS DON'T MATTER!
>MEMESHART IS USELESS, LET THE JP STEAL HER SUBS AND VIEWERS
>CCV IS THE ONLY METRIC THAT MATTERS

And other annoying takes from the schizos. Christ where the fuck are they anyways? Are they all over in the Bora graduation thread? Is that why it's suddenly so quiet in here?

>> No.13055285

>>13055222
Engagement boosts visibility in the algorithm yes. Likes, Comments, watchtime, etc. Why wouldn't they? Once the stream ends its just another video in YT's system.

>> No.13055299

Is it EN vs JP time again?

>> No.13055330

>>13055204
I think anon got something wrong because NijiKR always was nijisanji. They still had a merger with another agency in their beginning that brought a bully and two members that had to graduate due to military services, but they were a KR branch.

>> No.13055351

>>13055299
it's starting again, the worst part is that some of them sounds like they're seriously biting a a schizo bait.

>> No.13055368

what the fuck? on lamy's live later
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEkHj1WZekU
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We apologize, but please refrain from clipping this delivery.
Also, the content has already been recorded

>> No.13055382

>>13055202
Explain likes then
Aren't JP schizos notorious with dislike bombs?

>> No.13055386

>>13055368
lmao its like kuzuha's birthday all over again.

>> No.13055411

>>13055250
>Nov 2020 -> 40k CCV, 400k VOD views
>Nov 2021 -> 20k CCV, 400k VOD views
Susan wtf, stop bully my shark

>> No.13055423

>13055250
Gura will never fuck you no matter how much cope you have. EN are number midgets and always will be. Remember, the american adblock percentage is 38%, japanese is 22%. 16% difference. Also the majority of people using youtube use their phones.

>> No.13055435

>>13055299
tbf no one really shits on JP these days since the numbers are so good, it's the same shitters using JP to shit on EN and people biting to defend EN numbers.

Here's a tip guys, everyone who frequents /#/ already knows everything you're about to type.
Stop biting.

>> No.13055452

>>13055368
Sponsored birthday?

>> No.13055453

>>13055386
I mean, screenshots is different from Clipping. There's been a real nuisance with clipfags clipping the lives I've noticed.

>> No.13055459

>>13055423
>I don't like it therefore its cope

>> No.13055468

>>13055423
Kuzukek's Vampire cover

1st hour: 145k
2nd hour: 245k (+100k)
3rd hour: 515k (+270k)
4th hour: 647k (+132k)
5th hour: 740k (+93k)
6th hour: 822k (+82k)
7th hour: 890k (+68k)
8th hour: 936k (+46k)
8h20m: 948k (+12k) (600 views/min; -21%)
8h40m: 957k (+9k) (450 views/min; -25%)
9h00m: 964k (+7k) (350 views/min; -22%)
9h20m: 970k (+6k) (300 views/min; -14%)
9h40m: 976.9k (+6.9k) (345 views/min; +15%)
10h00m: 981.1k (+4.2k) (210 views/min;-39%)
10h20m: 984.5k (+3.4k) (170 views/min;-19%)
10h40m: 987.6k (+3.1k) (155 views/min;-9%)
11h00m: 990.9k (+3.3k) (165 views/min;+3%)
11h20m: 994.9k (+4.0k) (200 views/min;+17%)
11h30m: 997.0k (+2.1k) (210 views/min;+5%)


Hours to 1 million views

Kuzuha - Vampire -> 11h44hm @ 210 view/minute

Gura - Reflect -> 10h29min
Caligula -> King 11h36m
Still hasn't beaten what Reflect and KING got in their first week.

>> No.13055491

>13055459
>I don't like numbers so it means Gura and only Gura gets a 50% cut
>13055468
>Kuzuha
don't care lol

>> No.13055497

>>13055368
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuOhxo3rWac
>790k view clip of Ahoy from Marine's 3D live
Lamy saw this and went "Fuckkkk no, I want those VOD views on my stream instead of some clipper's channel."

>> No.13055510

>>13055368
>clipping
Probably content ID issue if they upload clip before the stream is finished.

>> No.13055528

>>13055368
She's gonna clip the live herself like what Luna did.

>> No.13055553

>>13054995
They definitely won't turn into NijiID, because niji ID at least has Indonesian people watching their streams.
All the NijiKR streamers had to get people from JP, EN or SEA interested to grow an audience.
With that in mind though, the ones with an outside audience can continue to grow those and be fine, it's the pure KR ones that were and are still in trouble.

>> No.13055557

>>13055497
This make a lot of sense.

>> No.13055559

>>13055497
Understandable to be honest, I'd be disheartened too if I was Lamy.
A clip of Subaru simply running got 1 mil views before her long anticipated live.

>> No.13055576

>>13055368
SO Screenshoting is still fine then?

>> No.13055596

>13055126
>13055132
>Chumchuds using pitting vod views against a channel half gura's sub count.
Do you guys know how much of a clown you look like?

>> No.13055603

>>13055576
Yes.

>> No.13055622
File: 921 KB, 422x750, wagie_wagie.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
13055622

>>13055576
No. Stop it.

>> No.13055640

>>13055596
>Is too much of a pussy to directly quote me
>resorting to sub to viewer ratio as a desperate last ditch cope attempt
Yeah, you are on some serious copium

>> No.13055641

>13055491
> Youtube cut matters now if I can use it to push my agenda.

>13055596
> Sub matters now if I can use it to push my agenda.

>> No.13055646

>>13055622
Does this have an audio?

>> No.13055673

>>13055596
>half
1/3

>> No.13055683

>>13055596
>>13055491
>>13055423
Bets on how new this fucktard is? Seeing as he's greentexting instead of responding...

>> No.13055702

>>13055640
>>13055683
it's called not giving a (You)...

>> No.13055728

>>13055528
I hope so. It's a fucking pain when I just want to watch one performance and they didn't pin the comment with the timestamps

>> No.13055732

Reminder that nu-vtubers are live streamers

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