/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Ah, piss

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>39,788: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>36,397: Marine (Hololive)
>29,641: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,097: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>22,053: Botan (Hololive)
>20,884: Polka (Hololive)
>19,989: Chloe (Hololive)
>19,607: Suisei (Hololive)
>17,220: Patra (774 Inc.)
>16,059: Towa (Hololive)
>15,923: Laplus (Hololive)
>15,053: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,380: Fauna (Hololive)
>13,922: Lui (Hololive)
>13,733: Mumei (Hololive)
>13,181: Noel (Hololive)
>12,596: IRyS (Hololive)
>11,824: Noa (VSPO)
>11,674: Ina (Hololive)
>10,677: Fuma (Holostars)
>10,495: Uyu (Holostars)
>10,412: Nene (Hololive)
>10,207: Hal (Neo Porte)

12k get RE Bae

>>21364479
KING...
Just in time for him to take Monthly Gold

Ah, peace

NijiEN audition is almost closing. If we go by the usual timeline, this means a new wave will arrive in June or July.

Funny enough, new HoloEN gen might be coming during this time too. This means that we will see the new HoloEN gen vs the new NijiEN wave for the first time.

The tribalism will be through the roof on that day.

>>21364660
this summer is going to be as hectic as the last one

>>21364660
You know the sad part is that if the sub cull isn't an issue for HoloEN anymore, they're going to pass some Council members on debut.

HoloEN is going the JP route of auditioning, so the previous timeframe might not apply.

>>21364750
Sana doesn't count, and even if she did no one would be sad

>>21364558
>Monthly Gold
>Silver KING
Thanks, I laughed.

>>21364830
Sana is slowly going back to the box. Never doubt the magic of Yagoo and his box.

>>21364750
Is IRyS going to end up the only ENVSinger?

>>21364840
The current holder of monthly gold is Migo with her birthday 3D, right? 125k, iirc?

>all femal niji podcast
>2k
not watching but there is now way it is THIS LOW with 4 females and talking about anime.
is there scuff?

>>21364750
i don't think 500k debut subs is remotely realistic but they'll definitely have better growth.
>>21364952
we can only hope.

>>21365008
That's their cap thanks to being accessories to males. And they have no chemistry at all.
Even Chad Cast is more pleasant to listen to.

>>21365008
>Females in Manjisanji
Are you people fucking new or something?

I heard from /hlg/ that Aqua won't stream her POV for the tourney. RIP those numbers.

>>21365008
What have we told you about what's gonna happen to their numbers if they keep spamming buff content like celebrations, off-collab, and the fucking impromptu VC collab?

>>21365186
she's scared of antis already?

>>21365008
They are the accessories for the boys. No boys in the collab, shit numbers..

>>21365186
I heard from /hlg/ that you should kill yourself

>>21365186
Indeed, I also heard from Suityan's member stream that she's gonna get married this fall.

>>21365361
yeah she's getting married, to me

>>21365286
I don't watch streams so I go by whatever threads say. If she streams, then nice I can coom to her and her numbers.

/#/ is declining.

>>21365008
Ripping off holo again huh. You will always be no. 2.

>>21365421
hey man

>>21365008
The majority of the NijiEN fanbase probably doesn't even watch anime or know what it is. They just want to listen to Vox jerk off his micro penis.

>>21365529
I can't wait for Riku to accelerate NijEN branch some more this summer.

Neo-Porte Yui announcing a cover to 5k+

>>21365186
I heard from my dreams that my wife Towa doesn't smoka anymore.

>>21365734
Torre...

>>21365186
idk how true that is but there was a reddit thread earlier talking about viewers spamming other people's chats about Aqua, I guess Matsuri had to deal with it and others in the tourney. That's probably the only thing I would have to go on other than the bad internet. I could see Aqua not wanting to inconvenience other people but yea

>>21365209
Yeah, their floor is getting absolutely destroyed. I was actually excited a couple days ago when Enna reached 3k on a solo stream, until I found out the number was bloated by no other NijiEN streaming, and the fujos camping in her stream waiting just in case any Luxiem was gonna call-in.

>>21365734
Tortuga…

>>21364794
They still need to debut more members. EN doesn't have enough girls for a full MK tournament.

>>21365008
after listening for a while
they are goddam boring.

>the best Apex player in Hal's "prestigious" tournament is a saliva slurping retard

>>21365492
Hey, number two is VSPO.

>>21365008
This shit is so awkward. No chemistry at all, they need a kronii and irys or bae.

>>21365926
Even Fauna would do better honestly

>>21365716
Is she a good singer?

>>21365926
IRyS fits in any group. Her going off on a tangent about Pokémon shipping and then about trees was pretty funny.

>>21365138
Chad Cast is great since IRyS and Bae are so great with anybody they work with that it cancels out Mori's autistic cringe. Seriously, just put IRyS with anybody and you have a great collab. That girl is magic.

>>21365926
Someone that can talk shit pretty much what i'm trying to say.

>>21365824
Nah i honestly think the reason why they don't want to stream their pov is because its a lobby with viewer participation(correct me if im wrong here) and aqua have alot of apex anti that would snipe them in those scrims.

>>21365926
Give them time. I personally think they handicapped themselves by focusing TOO much into one topic instead of a broader topic.

That's why Chadcast works because they can talk about whatever the fuck they want, but this one is TOO focused on Ousama Ranking

>>21365926
Irys and Bae I get, but Kronii, really? Has something changed and she became much less awkward all of a sudden?

What massive vtuber tournament would you like to see? Apex is ok but I need some variety.

>>21365926
Don't forget fauna, she just shit on the isekai prog on the holo fes show.

>>21365926
Even Sana can do better than these chuubas kek

>>21366090
Melty Blood tournament

Nice.

>>21366090
Any games with good netcode

>>21366090
Smash

>>21366056
No, i said irys and kronii together like yesterday kino mario kart collab.

>>21366056
Kronii shines in collabs.

>>21365926
I can see IRyS and Bae hosting a big holo event in the future.

>>21366154
Context??

>>21366090
A fighting game tournament, them being who they are I guess Smash is the best we'll get but I'd love to see them get into Tekken for instance.

Alternatively, do a 4chancup and have a divegrass tournament, streaming with your chat deciding what memes you can put for your players would be fun to watch

>>21366056
Have you watched any collab with Kronii and IRyS? When she is with IRyS all the awkward autism disappears and you get a sharp quick witted comedian with some of the best dry comedy you will ever hear from a chuuba. IRyS seems to bring out the best in everybody.

>>21366199
I don't think they have that pull.

>>21366211
2 away from getting 500k then it just obliterated 95 subs.

>>21366199
their meme review with drinks was great

>>21366196
>No, i said irys and kronii together like yesterday kino mario kart collab.
That collab was basically Fauna, IRyS, Kronii and an NPC.

>>21366290
>Sana was more of an NPC than fucking Link.

>>21366256
Because that's a fucking estimation of sub growth, not the actual number.

>>21366199
Both of them don't really have the organizational skills to do that
They'd probably have to get one of the Myth members to organize it.

>>21366290
This I feel is what's going to make it hard for Sana to get into the box, you need to do collabs for them to remember you back but it's hard (especially after such a long absence) if you can't back into the dynamics and establish yourself

>>21365908
Yea this retard is good at slurping my pp.

>>21365824
lyger is a lazy bitch but holos being spammed in other holos chat was always frowned up so he was right in banning people that did it

>>21366371
wait, isn't that just CHAD CAST?

>>21366245
IRyS unironically best hire for HoloEN that wasted for Vsinger. Her ability to talk and collab saves her from becoming Sora or AZKi type and become Suisei type

>>21366381
Sana seems perpetually stuck in August/September. Like holy shit the one time she spoke up she was talking about Irys and lightbulbs and Fauna and Irys, bless their hearts, tried to make it work. Like they do speak behind the scenes, right? Even if she didn't stream there has to be some level of talking to each other right? But nope. She sticks with the same things. BEEG. BREAD. HEADPATS. SPACE HAHAHA. The ENTIRE collab she was talking about the game itself rather than trying to talk about the stuff they were.

>>21366381
Sana needs one by one collabs first to establish her place in HoloEN

>>21366154
>>21366256
That's not how it works, that website is just "guessing" based on the growth rate and cutting it like that when the projection is off. Nobody but the owner of the channel can see the exact sub count beyond 999.

>>21366431
It's just a label doesnt mean anything. Anything would've been the same

>>21366484
You just reminded me of the drawing collab. Kiara asked Sana a question (I think it was 'What did you eat for breakfast') and then immediately followed it up by saying "And don't tell me bread" and it took her a few seconds to think of something.

>>21366199
Bae sucks in big collabs. She can't come up with good banters as fast as the other girls, so she defaults herself to random loud noises. She's too green.
IRyS has her moments, but her camera control is very terrible. She's too old.
These two can gel with others, but they don't have the celebrity pull. If they are going to host a big event, then they'll need to bring someone that can pull numbers by herself.

>>21366381
Sana needs to do 1-on-1 collabs to slowly establish a rapport with the girls on-stream. Hell, with how awkward some of these collabs with her are, I'm wondering if Sana even attempts to talk with the girls off-stream.

>>21366638
Sana still has Ina.

does pikamee have a chance at #3

>>21365186
There is no confirmation for that. Wait for scrims first.

>>21366636
Bae's biggest flaw is that she stays silent when a group talks about references she doesn't get. During the Jump King open VC she would stay silent for 10 min+ cause Mori/Fauna/Mumei would talk about American pop culutre.
IRyS tends to get tunnel vision during a conversation or she makes people feel uncomfortable with the constant innuendos (Fauna and Kronii kept trying to change the subject during the MK collab).
Sana needs an intervention or some shit, she's so far behind.

>>21366875
Yeah people here like IRyS in collabs and she can carry a conversation but it always ends up being too much about her.

>>21366636
Bae will be a great MC same with IRyS or even Kiara shes good on hyping things up like what Polka and Lamy did on the Expo.

>>21366735
been long since i saw pika with those numebrs

>>21366735
She has 10 minutes before Kronii starts.

pika closing in... can she do it??

#3 get

>>21367341
PIKA INCLINE

>>21367341
Why does NijiEN daisenpai get such a low number?

i keep forgetting pika is sometimes at the level of nijien girls

>>21367341
Man how do you get mogged with 4 people

Isn't every single Nijisanji EN girl inclining according to the numbers graph anon is posting?

Why are holoniggers in this thread seething so hard? Is the Bae/Fauna stream so boring that you don't have anything else to do rather than shitpost with bait?

>>21367538
Do you only have 1 monitor

>>21367538
I think you're lost anon. This is a /numbers/ thread.

>>21367538
collabs with men boost them but their solo content is lacking.

>>21367444
Their only use is being cocksleeves for manjisanji.

>>21367538
Niji thread is in another place anon.

>>21367538

Listen here tourist-chama, NijiEN girls only get good number only when they collab with Niji male. They're dog shit on their own.

>>21367538
enjoy your chink fujo audience. This is the future you choose.

>>21367341
Actually losing even with a 4 person collab kek, the only thing that can save them is with a surprise male appearance

>>21367538
The only nijiengirls that can incline with solo streams is Selen and Pomu and ?? Rosemi?? . Rest have to become accessories to the boys to get big numbers just like Nina.

>>21367798
There's celebration streams too...

>>21367845
i think reimu had a small one. but she hasnt done debuff content.

>>21367538
Go tweet Vox and beg him to crash their podcast.

>>21367341
Oh no no no no Holobros look at that incline

>>21367845
But they are happy with this since numbers are numbers, Petra told me in her super-secret member stream.

>>21367887
Yeah, she basically spam horror like games, fotm games and collabs.

>>21365734
DONTA

>>21365008
Should have had a male join by surprise to bump up the numbers.

>https://twitter.com/AniMare_cafe/status/1509002484181782538
One of the Animare's members will graduate

>>21368374
I thought one just graduated like a week ago

>All girls are inclining and not only one but two will end up with a 3K+ median this month when "Selen 3K median never ever" was a constant meme in this thread.
>Vox and Mysta 10K+ medians mog like every single HoloEN except Gura/Mori/Ina
>Dominates EN male space while Hololive is being a laughing stoke
>Sub counts for Luxiem through the roof, Vox about to mog the entirety of Council while debuting months after them
>Sub counts for even the girls higher than most HoloEN girls outside of Gura (who STILL gets mogged by Vox)

when will holoniggers learn?

6-9 months ago Nijisanji EN was a joke and never mentioned in the same convo with Hololive, it was like comparing Hololive JP and .LIVE

now they are seen even by the holoniggers in this thread as competitors
do you see the future ahead of you holonigger?
the numbers don't lie

>>21368374

So future Holo Gen 7 or Niji 100th wave ?

>>21368374
according to the tweet it says he'll still continue being part of 774, he just won't be part of animare anymore

>>21368374 (me)
Wait she is only graduated from Animare but not from 774
Probably she wants to be vsinger or vidol and Animare's direction not suitable for her

>>21368374
What's this about continuing activities as a TV personality?

>>21368604
Oh, he's going indie then

>>21368511
>>21368590
Can you niggers read? She is leaving Animare but is staying at 774. Yep, they are a weird company. I guess its like AZKi leaving INNK but staying with Hololive.

>>21368624
>>21368636
Animare is just one of 774's units. Think like Cover and INNK and Hololive, except with like five different units. He's just graduating from animare, he'll still be part of 774

>>21368776
No, I mean how is she going to continue as a TV personality without being a Vtuber? Does this mean she'll stop streaming but will be using the Vtuber model for the TV show or is she going to be an IRL personality?

>>21368884
774 isn't like the companies we are used to talking about here, they have many different subunits that are all "part of 774" but are also their own distinct groups. Think a cross between Gamers and hololive's gens. She's just not part of animare anymore, but she'll still be a vtuber and she'll still be part of 774... whatver that means

Imagine a world where Kronii was motivated and not so depressed. 4.3k currently for a game series Finale she started 7 months ago

>>21368965
Rene is so fucking hot jesus christ

>>21369014
hmmmm

>>21364344
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>>21368490
Pretty good square root

streams right now

>>21368965
I love Patra's ASMR

>>21369141
What anime?

>>21369174
who's that in second place?

>>21369141
Siesta, Kircheis, and that Yuki-clone mage are better.

>>21369210
FUCKING ZOOMER GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>21369244
No

>>21369219
Genchink Youtuber.

>>21369014
At least this game series is over.

>>21368561
Don't worry. Those people don't have any connection to the vtubers from NijiEN or watch them. It's all superficial shit. Even in terms of analyzing numbers, the fags don't even consider the context for the podcast stream when it's focused on one specific anime as its title, so whoever don't watch anime or didn't watch this anime will avoid it.

>>21369210
>newnigger numberfag doesn't recognize Louise nor have any knowledge to where she came from
like poetry

Do people still unironically believe Mumei isn't the star of Council? Kronii got more subs when she did her her first few days of monetization and danced like a monkey by repeating whatever the superchats said, but ever since she quite the monkey dance she has fallen behind Mumei in popularity.

>>21369174
>4 person collab is dropping
Is it really bad?

>>21369219
>>21369330
It's a guy
I thought it was a girl...

this is why SC numbers are irrelevant for holojp discussion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETMXhRQcLJU

>>21369519
Mumei is the star but Kronii still has more potential (that she'll never use).

>>21366431
Suisex has pretty shit streams though. it's just that her music slaps so hard it buffs everything else.

IRyS is like a reverse suisei. good streams but for some reason bad numbers for music (which is a crime i like her stuff)

>>21369174
>Totsu stream RTA
Literally
incapable
of streaming alone

>>21365008
Would have done better one Elira or Enna's channel, Millie is a big debuff. Elira being there means they'll talk about Twilight and Harry Potter more than anime anyway.

>>21369542
IT'S A TRAP

>>21369611
It's sad that her Identity cover fell behind Lui's. It was faster on day one but her channel doesn't seem to have the same sustained reach.

>>21363213
From what was previously discussed she seems to have two different fanbases at 4-5k each. One during the NA slot and another for the JP/KR slot

>>21369634
Welll NijiEn is twitch group.

>>21369705
Lui + Okayu
Lui would never pass Irys alone.

>>21369582
man, subaru really needs a face update

>>21369542
>>21369330
That's not his usual numbers, right? I don't think I've seen him on the rankings before

>>21369542
The term is babiniku, but yes, you'll find that not many girls know how to make Genchink entertaining to watch. Lize is one of the few exceptions to this.

>>21369756
Yeah that probably helped a lot. The JP box just seems much stronger.

>>21369634
There's literally tons of solo streams all the time. Just open the schedule and look. Getting over it is obviously a open vc thing. Seriously, this thread obsession with this is extremely retarded

>>21369519
karaokes are the only thing she has over kronii at this point. this game has been going on for too long, of course it's going to get shit numbers

>>21369705
she needs to do some duet covers with some of the accepted music holos to get eyes on her.

>>21369756
Somehow Okayu always has good number for her covers

>>21369900
>somehow

>>21369825
I suppose. but EN has Mori and Gura, if Irys do a song collab with one of them it's a easy 2mi+ views.

>>21366484
Sana's erratic streaming schedule has really hampered her growth curve for learning to be a good streamer.

>>21369900
Somehow?

>>21369900
"somehow" go give them a listen anon, she's the best in hololive when it comes to covers.

>>21369900
The onigiriyaa are quite dedicated.

>>21366963
I beg to disagree. Have you watched any Chadcast? IRyS knows how to give way and inject new topics left and right. It's a matter of just interjecting your way so that you can grab her attention. Fauna for one was able to do that just fine yesterday. Mori is also somewhat good with this it's just that her topic sometimes are pretty bad.

>>21369764
she really does, her rigging is so stiff, compare her to Lamy or Chloe and you can really see how bad it is

>>21369900
>Somehow
kek

>YOU ALL NOW REMEMBER THAT ANON BADMOUTHING OKAYU’S FLOS

>>21370003
Well except for her 2nd original.

>>21369947
>>21369979
>>21369985
Yeah, I know that she is a good singer but it is still surprising that a Holo that doesn't focus on singing can fight against a Holo that focuses on singing

>>21370108
She has 2nd original?

>>21370108
what 2nd original

>>21370117
What defines "focuses on singing". You remind me a guy that claimed Towa can't musical Holo because she plays Apex.

>>21368561
The girls are still a joke, as is their whole 5th wave. It's basically Luxiem.

>>21369787
They've popped up before.
They only do when there's a major update though, and either a bunch of F2P or wary spenders want to see what things look like before rolling, etc.

>>21369877
She put up a guerilla shitpost art stream yesterday at like 1 AM Eastern and it got 13k in 20 minutes.

>>21368561
Anon. This is just "kuzuha king" meme. Just because 1 or 2 is successful doesn't mean the whole crowd will follow and start watching the girls or the lesser known NijiEN boys. Overall, HoloEN is still far more consistent, profitable and sponsorship friendly. It's like saying Niji is #1 because got #1 while missing the fact that 4 girls from Holo got over 20k CCV and 12 girls got over 10k-19k CCV. Meh.

>>21370108
Yeah that one was not that good.
Also did she change the way she sing, her karaoke feel different from like... a year ago

>>21368561
You're saying as if NijiEN is comprised of 20 Vox and Mystas

>>21369519
kronii gets close to gura numbers when she's not violently debuffing herself. but mumei is a better streamer who knows how to satisfy her audience very well. kronii just needs to stop playing shitty games for way longer than anyone can stomach.

How do we fix this girl? Her return got no hype whatsoever.

>>21369519
What do you want us to say? That she's the star, but with the caveat as long as Kronii keeps stacking debuffs on herself? If that makes you happy, then sure, she's the star*.

>>21369634
I feel like the current situation within Niji is the exact scenario that Holo tries to stop with the month collab ban.
The ban helps the individual streamers to develop a strong individual and in gen identity.
Niji kinda just releases their streamers to do their own thing and even worse, will debut a new wave just as the previous one was finally getting settled.
Unless you’re one of the top streamers, it’s kinda hard to develop your own style and fan base that doesn’t rely on other people.

>>21370194
Someone who actually do music more than game and actually released singles or even albums
Towa is a musical Holo who is addicted to APEX.
Okayu feels like Holo that has singing as a hobby rather than a job

>>21370316
Well her streaming style itself has changed quite heavily from before. It used to be fatto catto being comfy and laid back in doing whatever she wants but she's been leaning a lot more towards coom contents now.

>>21370330
I mean, yes it is. Vox and Mysta are supportive of their branch mates, that's why they try to appear in as many streams as possible.

>>21370428
send her to fucking JP. a reverse trap might have some traction there.

>>21370428
I hear she doesn't really speak English. Is that true?

Sakamata pls release at least a 3 mins+ songs you got a great voice and that 1st orisong is actually pretty good same with 2nd song but both too short.

>>21369519
Kronii still has remnants of her initial popularity that props her above Mumei. They're on a crossroads though with Mumei's stock going up and Kronii's going down.

>>21370507
yes

>>21370523
That 2nd song is great but too short. Damn you stinky

>>21370500
Sounds like a nightmare from a sponsorship perspective. How do you determine what their floor is reliably if they're getting artificially boosted by constant yume/fujo raids?

Lui's voice is so soothing. I like to listen to her in the background while I'm doing something.

UnAlive charts at 5th place with 1,156 sales in Oricon weekly digital chart.
https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/dia/w/2022-04-04/

>>21370507
it's fucking strained to say the least. if she were in JP her english would be "extremely good" but she's in EN so that turns into "complete shit".

>>21370500
So it's gonna be another nijijp shitshow with 2 big hitters and 98 shitters in the future. nice.

>>21370526
I feel Mumei has a higher ceiling compared to Kronii. Mumei is cursed with her debut and her first-month streams because she is still nervous.
She has a good singing voice and can draw. Her zatsudan isn't bad and she can collab. Her game streams aren't that good though

>>21370500
>slowly destroying the girls' floor
>make the girls dependant on you to get good numbers.
Damn, this method is both so underhanded and brilliant I can't help but give them applause for it.

This collab is so lame. They've got no chemistry whatsoever. Is this their first time as a group?

>>21370654
Lui's Fukurousan cover is so good I'm putting it on a loop

>>21370448
yes, it stops you from being a soulless leech.
doesn't kneecap unityfags like Koyori and Lui since they can still do in-Gen collabs to showcase their MC/Collab skills.

>>21370788
It's a narrow topic podcast and the group chemistry is poor. The first can work if the second is good, but it's not, and the numbers reflect it.

>>21370428
who the fuck is that supposed to be

>>21370782
>I feel
What the fuck are you doing using feeling in numbers thread? Use the tools we have and compare the highest numbers they get for their solo streams instead of using your feeling.

>>21370609
Imagine the niji girls getting sponsored
>Low numbers
>Low engagement
>Guys join in intentionally to boost numbers
>Sponsored only paid the girl
Is it a false promise or a boon if a sponsor gets a nice free bonus while paying for cheap?

>>21370949
>Guys join in intentionally to boost numbers
No sponsorship would allow this.

>>21370746
I still can't fathom the decision to throw a JP girl into an EN male group.

>>21370885
With how much they like to crash each others streams, you'd think they would have done a couple of test runs on random streams before trying to do it officially.

>>21370609
Ideally you don't, most sponsors don't care that much and will just look at the numbers you give them and say yes or no. Only when you're gonna invest a bunch and do like a whole promotional campaign would you look any deeper, and those are quite rare.

>>21370723
Oh wow still pretty good considering the MV quality

>>21370949
People wouldn't randomly join a sponsorship. They wouldn't even be in the open discord.

>>21370471
she was always down for coom content even back then but she's way more open about it now.

i think she sings and talks higher than she did back then. she also doesn't tryhard her karaokes as much and just breezes through songs with her now higher talking voice.

i wish she gets an ori-song with her music tastes rather than "hehe cute cat"

her rainy day concert and recent bday concert was kino

>>21371004
Nijisanji is about quantity, not quality.

>>21371044
>album doesn't have MV
MV quality doesn't affect album sales obviously.

>>21370526
Kronii's getting back into it too after being done with her computer shenanigans a few weeks back. i think they're going to go neck and neck in the next few months.

>>21371004
It's funny because this is essentiailly how the chadcast started

>>21371008
>most sponsors don't care that much
Yes they fucking do. What the fuck is this retarded take? Sponsors aiming to advertise their shit to NA demographic won't be happy if more than half of the viewers tuning in turn out to be chink instead.

>>21370448
Fostering individuality is extremely important especially if these people are used for promotions and stuff. You'd want each of them to be able to draw their own fanbase however miniscule and not be reliant of the group. Korone despite not playing FOTM games has secured niches for herself. This will only help the box become stronger in the long run.

>>21370991
the rrat i've heard is that her audition videos were heavily edited and it tricked them into thinking she was actually fluent in english.
what's weirder than the decision to hire a girl is the decision to give the girl an extremely masculine model. that's the real problem here. every shota or trap is voiced by a girl, that's common practice, if they had made her a shota she'd probably be a huge success. but they just made her the blue version of The Noctyx Palette-Swap Boy.
and she doesn't even do a male voice. i mean, come on.

>>21370788
The topic is pretty niche but the initial banter is fairly entertaining but these are the usually animillie numbers so there's that.

>>21371260
She didn't even know how to fucking stream. Every single one of her early streams were fucking rife with technical issues.

>>21371260
>extremely masculine model
>Yugo
Brother, I think you need to get your eyes checked.

>>21371260
Is it that hard to get good male talent for EN vtubers? Why could she pass the audition?

>>21371008
The hell they don't you fucking retard? Did you miss out on the speaker deck leaks? Cover's was full of demographic breakdowns for their channels for a reason.

>>21371414
Look at the other 4 that did pass and it kind of answers your question.

>>21369141
Ojiisan it's time for bed...

>>21371260
>but they just made her the blue version of The Noctyx Palette-Swap Boy
Actually, she looks like gender swapped Nose.

>>21371260
nah pretty sure they do a live interview before hiring them, so even if her audition videos were edited she wouldn't have passed the interview if they thought her english wasn't passable

>>21371260
also, by "huge success" i mean "huge success if she actually spoke english". she still probably wouldn't have done well in reality. i mean, half of every fucking stream is in japanese.
>>21371317
alright, that's a misspeak on my part. but you get the point. she looks like a jojo character.
>>21371414
that's my question, and that honestly makes me fucking dread starsEN if they're going to have to pick from the same pool that led to the selection of noctyx.
who knows, maybe the cope that starsEN will be canned due to lack of suitable applicants will actually come true.

>>21371555
>source: the voice in my head

>>21371552
>>21371260
Actually she looks like a whitewashed Ibrahim

>>21370723
weird she didn't do physical a release this time.

>>21371555
Niji staff was probably ESL so they didn't know the difference

>>21371604
it's not like the edited audition rrat is any more substantiated. we're just talking rrats bro. sources are optional.

>>21371317
even if her model looks gay is a bara/YMCA one
really not fit well with her high pitched female voice

>>21370723
Seems pretty bad for the 1st week of sales, but I imagine a decent number of places selling Mori's UnAlive are not tracked by Oricon.

>>21371604
Literally every talent for Hololive and nijisanji as well as random people who didn't even make it have talked about doing the live interviews. You think they just hire them off a 5 minute video and some fucking emails?

>>21371604
well Hololive does a live interview, I don't see why Nijisanji wouldn't

>>21371633
I have a feeling it's gonna be one of her bday merch items, with that art she previewed as the jacket art.

Did Anycolor release their yearly report? wasn't that supposed to be this March?

>>21371635
Noor and that other Indian dude speak English well enough to know better.

>>21370723
Is that first week sales? Seems pretty low although I understand that most of the sales came from outside Japan.

>>21370526
>On the crossroads
Do people believe this shit? No really, do people just casually see one stream and think “wow, there must be a whole set of people ready to swap favorites”

Fucker, Kronii casually dropped an RFA on schedule one single time and hit 19k, a higher peak than Mumei has gotten in how long solo? And is the -only- person in EN that has defied all odds and expectations for games that people.
>9.9k Ghostrunner
>9k+ Hidden through time
>10k+ House Flipper
>10k+ Powerwash Sim (a game that Bae gets 4k on regularly, mind you)
>11-12k Sonic Adventure

You gotta realize that there’s a lot of eyes on Kronii no matter what she plays. Even if she debuffs herself to hell with some games, she has those fans in the back ready whenever to watch her. This is in no way shaming Mumei, she’s a brilliant talent who’s doing so much for EN and is inclining massively, but don’t use that to try and bring Kronii down

>>21371598
StarsEN will most probably be comprised of former Utaites/gamers in the EN circle that will look the part as far as the vtuber model goes. A lot probably wouldn't have experience in streaming or does occasionally stream. CoverEN doesn't really care a lot about your streaming prowess but is more attached to what you can offer as a creative like art, singing, multilingual and voice quality. Council is a good example of that. Sana is the only person that didn't fit as far voice goes but she's still an artist so she gets a pass

>>21371598
>jojo character
No, no she really doesn't. Even the most effeminate male character in Jojo is jacked, swimmer-esque type. Yugo? You could tell me she was a female character with a toned body and flat chest alà female acrobat and I would've completely believed you.

Because Onyon isnt streaming their practice, holoclippers are clipping other participants. Do you think this could help crack the holo algorithm for others? Will VSPOs wait 24hr before releasing clips policy bite them in the ass?

>>21371848
Anya...

>>21371904
CoverID is learning. They did well with ID3. All three girls fit their parts exceptionally well. Kobo sounds 10 ffs. The hammer sounds like a mommy and Zeta sounds exactly like a pretty egirl in her early 20s. They all have different skills that they can offer besides being able to stream.

>>21371892
Oh right VSPO has that policy. I bet some Holo clippers will get some flames.

>>21372010
Well, Anya is really good at Japanese...

>>21371904
Anya is Japanese, so...

>>21371837
As good as Mumei is, she actually always has bad numbers when streaming games. I dunno why, maybe she always choose bad games but Kronii streams debuff game and still has good numbers

>>21371892
They're still clipping Holos so it won't do shit
Plus the algo will be flooded with Holo clips again when they stream the actual scrims

>>21371779
The first week only. For comparison, Kuzuha sold 1600 digital copies. Suisei sold 4300 digital copies.

>>21371892
Clipwatchers will still only watch because there's Holos in it. Once the tourney's over, they're just gonna go back to Holo-centric clips.
There might be some converts, but unless they number in the thousands, there won't be any significant change.

>>21364344
Is there a chuuba that does tsundere like Rie Kugimiya did?

>>21372031
They wouldn't dare to go against Towa.

>>21371904
Anya is currently the most Nihongo Jouzu among ID chuubas (yes, even more than freaking Hana who was actual Japanese hafuu). She is unironically the one who'll have the fucking easiest time integrating herself to the box if she wants to.
It's just a shame that she doesn't care enough about numbers to make use that advantage.

>>21372064
I wouldn’t say bad, she does poorly when overlapped but by herself she’s Gura-lite, in the sense that she has this decently high floor (8-9k) but this weirdly capped ceiling that, for many cases, does not seem to get broken (unable to break past 18k in karaokes, game streams just cannot hit that 10k mark)

What she has though is consistency in that you expect X to come from her numbers. If it’s a game, expect 8k. If it’s a karaoke, expect 15k+. That’s the great thing about Mumei and it’s getting even better in recent time since she’s performing wayyy better than she was a few months ago

>>21372064
Anything that lets Kronii channel her inner autism, will get her audience interested. Fuck, they're all still desperately craving when she gets back to MC no doubt.
Mumei, outside of Singing+Drawing+ one-off things like that rant stream and the War Declaration on Haachama. Well....her gaming streams aren't anywhere near as entertaining, and the numbers reflect it.

>>21371604
>>21371699
>>21371709
they did live interview, at least from Holo side
https://youtu.be/MePOKGdJXyw

>>21372064
she's really not much of a game player. and her audience isn't particularly game-oriented. but she still pretty consistently gets around a 7-8k average when she's not streaming a complete piece of shit.

>>21371317
Anon, Yugo is significantly more masculine than the usual cute pretty boy. Compare it to, say, Uyu's model for what an actual bishie would look like

>>21372349
Just wanted to clarify, the floor portion is closer to her peaks, I would say her floor is closer to 7k

>>21372458
Because Cover actually cares about new applicants, they want to pick the right people for the job.

>>21364344
I would literally never stop trying to impregnate Louise. Every day I would wake her up by coming in her and every night I would cum in her right before going to sleep, which I would do with my dick stuck insider her. I would take some viagra before bed just to maintain my erection so that she'll be ready in the morning when I thrust into her like an animal and slather her in kisses. Part of our wedding vows would be to have as many children as physically possible. I wouldn't even care if she's already pregnant, I'll fuck her while she's pregnant and she'll get double pregnant. I'll fill her with so much cum every day that she'll look pregnant even when she isn't (which she'll never be after we're married) I would do everything in my power to make Louise as fertile as possible. I'd give her fertility drugs, I'd give her uterus massages, breast massages, I wouldn't let her go 12 hours without at least one spastic orgasm. I'll even bake her home made lactation inducing biscuits to help her get to a point of hyperlactation syndrome so that she'll be seeping out multiple quarts of milk per day. Which I will save and drink just so that I can tell her how delicious it is. I'll make her so fertile that triplets will be the minimum number she's carrying at any given time. I would literally never stop doting on her, I would respond to her every beck and call and I would cum inside her again each time she asks for something. She would be so pregnant all the time that she would literally not be able to stand up straight anymore even after menopause. Her spine would be permanently bent out of shape to accommodate a pregnant belly. Even after she can't get pregnant anymore I would just keep putting more eggs into her. I would clone her purely so that I can put fresh eggs from the clone inside her after she runs out of them. She would have so much progesterone running through her veins at any given time that even the thought of not being pregnant would seem alien to her.

>>21372153
Akai Haato used to be a tsundere, but then she became a shitposter

>>21365008
Their original fans left slowly after the males debuted, one "collab" after another.
This is their combined floor now.

>>21372337
>the most Nihongo Jouzu
I don't think you really know what Nihongo Jouzu means, it is supposed to describe ngmi people, not competent speakers. Mori in this case is actually Nihongo Jouzu.

>>21372349
>months ago
During peak CCVID, you mean? Well of fucking course her number now is better.

>>21372665
anon, it's both, that's how slang terms work

>>21372665
By shitposters, yes. But I wasn't shitposting now am I?

>>21372153
It's hard to act as tsundere consistently for streamers and real-life tsundere is just a bitch

>>21371699
Nijisanji is time pressed to produce vtubers every few months.
The underpaid, overworked interviewers can't interview thousands of applicants by themselves.
A lot of duds can pass Nijisanji auditions.

>>21372770
>By shitposters
Where do I even start... nah fuck it.

>>21371739
They are not doing well enough to brag about it.

>>21372819
Just admit you're a nitpick, faggot.

>>21372783
The good ol' throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks. Like they have over 100 members but around 5% are actual stars.
It's impressive that the strategy is somewhat sustainable for 4 years now.

>>21372783
They still do live interviews. It's impossible they didn't know Yugo's English was subpar. Someone signed off on it and thought it was ok.

I think this is the reason why Nijisanji's median is low for a very popular group.
They have a disproportionate amount of sub-2k vtubers compared to their big-hitters like Kuzuha.

>>21372967
How good are Ranunculus' numbers? Did the debut buff wear off yet?

>>21372598
What is wrong with ojisans?

>>21372967
Yes?
Anyone who isn't shitposting and is actually interested in the numbers understands WHY their median is so shit, but that doesn't stop that shitposter who uses VSPO from flinging his garbage around.

>>21372781
Tsundere maid cafe is not doing that well either.
It sucks when the entertainers reset their bond level to zero at the beginning of each visit.
The manager needs to put some spice into them to keep patrons coming.

>>21373099
Quite bad. They are nearing sub-2k median already.

>>21373099
I think that because they're VTA graduate, there was no debut buff to speak of. People can just check their old VODs instead of tuning in their post-debut streams to know more about them.

>>21373099
The numbers are still going down, so the debut buff is still there.

Are retards seriously saying NijiEN females are competitive? What is going on

>>21373177
Wait.
Weren't Vspos supposed to get better median than them or were those numbers I saw floating around faked?

Reminder that Hololive wasn't at its peak popularity when they did HoloEN's audition but they managed to still snag all of Myth. Gura, the depressed alcoholic country girl joined, Ame the lowly streamer, Calli who's in it for fun, Ina for friends and life improvement and Kiara who's stuck at Japan but wants to pursue opportunities.

StarsEN would be just fine, and it would be filled by talents who didn't have their own breakout moment in life yet. Those who want to just earn money would go to NijiEN and those who actually dreams big would try for HoloEN. As seen by Cover treating their foreign branches, joining as a talent guarantees a stable career. That's why it's a shame that Ike and Shu went to NijiEN.

>>21373418
>Those who want to just earn money would go to NijiEN
Cause NijiEN mems are richer?

>>21373418
Are you a faggot? Pre Myth was peak popularity Hololive.
It want went down after Myth

>>21373396
You misunderstand. I'm aware that, from a medium perspective, VSPO looks competitive to Nijisanji, but that belies the truth of the matter, which is that there are many talents in NijisanjiJP that are way above VSPO, and that using just medium to compare hides this fact. The shitposter then uses this to say that "NijisanjiJP is dying, etc". and other stuff to get others riled up. It's not discussion being done in good faith, it's shitposting using numbers and hiding the context.

>>21372497
In a scale of 1‐10, with 1 being Astel and 10 being Belmond, being significantly more masculine than Uyu (-5) would not put you at 'extremely masculine', it would just put you at dead 0.

>>21373467
Every single one of Nijisanji vtubers is doing this as a side job. That's what most Nijisanji fans tell me.

>>21373388
Lurk more, newfag. We have multiple types of schizos running around, on top of the usual Nijiniggers.

>>21372967
That is obvious to anyone with half a brain. It is also the fundamental problem that we keep pointing out to Nijifags about their company, because even if they are problably doing great as a company, it is the talent that basically gets saddled with the shoestrig earnings that keep them going relatively well, but not exceptionally well enough that they might think of it as anything more than a gig to pass the time and thus end up wanting to produce even more interesting things with their own money that they could invest into their pet projects. That's how Holos gets so much shit going on after all.

>>21373177
>but that doesn't stop that shitposter who uses VSPO from flinging his garbage around
And he will win the PR war like that. Constantly repeating a lie has a non-trivial chance of turning it into the truth. Just imagine if that autismo was paired with Japanese language skills...

>>21373467
Richer than you wasting your time in a Mongolian basket weaving forum

Holosisters, this can't be happening!

>>21373418
>classic holotranny cope
I haven't seen that one in a while

>>21373509
KEK

>>21373472
>It all went downhill after myth
Seems like you need to watch this to give yourself a nice fresh reminder of what actually happened
https://youtu.be/1lcOyt_403U

>>21373629
korni is reading sc

Why can't i see chloe (hololive) on playboard in the vtubers category?

>>21373708
Even now, no one in NijiEN can reach Mori, let alone Gura.

>>21373708
>Subs cope
>proves popularity
Vox has the FASTEST SUB GROWTH in Vtuber history, and yet you still call him a failure and that Niji is dying
But when Gura does it, it's proof that Cover is doing well?
Fuck off faggot. Why are Holofaggots always so disingenuous

>>21373472
That is wrong, anon. Well, you're technically correct about the popularity of Holo being at is peak, butg the absolute peak popularity of Holo was between mid September and late November post Myth debut because now a lot of people were actually for real watching Holos instead of clips just to see what they'd do with English language speakers.

>>21373805
>in Vtuber history
PFFT

>>21373805
If Vox surpasses Gura's sub in 1 year, I will eat your cum live on stream.

People just love getting ridiculed by random strangers on the internet

>>21373472
>Are you a faggot? Pre Myth was peak popularity Hololive.
It want went down after Myth
- Last samurai

What's holding chloe back?

>>21370976
>>21371049
...why not though? As long as their product sells, it shouldn't really bother them right?

>>21373629
>Penis buff, minecraft buff
>SC reading debuff in a long series debuff
>Only 30% ahead
This is why everyone laughs at you fags. Take your shots more carefully.

>>21373959
(you)

>>21370080
no

>It's lunchtime in bugland
Be wary, lads. The chink fujos are here.

>>21373472
HoloEN auditions were on February 2020, the start of Hololive's popularity begins on April. No one thought to join Hololive since they're only popular in Japan and second at that due to Nijisanji still being first but they managed to snag all Myth Talents.

>>21373467
NijiEN is less demanding than HoloEN so it's "easy money" so to say.

>enter bait thread
>weak baits everywhere
>close bait thread

>>21373805
did vox reach 1m in 3 months like gura did? no suck my dick fujo

>>21373396
> Ignore the shit performers, they have more above the median!
The audacity of a bad faith poster calling other takes bad faith.

>>21374036
>Myth
>quality hires
RORU RORU RUMAO
DO Holofags really think this?

>>21373994
What product? Luxiem and Noctyx have no sponsorship as of right now.

>>21373805
the answer is "literally nobody cares about vox"
i have never seen him mentioned outside of numberfagging. 500,000 chinamen love him and he has little to no impact in the western world.

>>21373749
Shu's number beats her peak, anon

>>21373994
Why waste money advertising a product to thousands of people it isn't available to?

>>21373805
Gura hit 1million subs in the same amount of time as Vox got to 500k.

>>21374036
>the start of Hololive's popularity begins on April
Bitch, you already shit like bandaids, Halloween house, NIGGA and Azur Lane collab long before that.

>>21373805
Please shitposter-chama, you could have used some actual facts, but instead resort to lies.

>>21370500
You clearly dont know anything about nijien if you think vox and mysta are all the time on other streams. This thread really lives in a complete different reality.
>>21370949
If you actually watched nijien you would know there's been tons of sposnorships already and such thing dont happen. You also would know that most streams don't have impromptu collabs.

>>21372781
Akai Haato was a good tsundere vtuber before she went to Australia, got sexually abused (by me) and lost her marbles.

>>21374158
If you actually watch NijiEN member streams, you clearly do not know that their 3Ds are in the work already.

Wait, do holofags believe that they'll get anything different than Nijisanji EN rejects for Holostars EN?

chink alert!

>>21374073
Gotta correct u there
Gura hit 1M in 40 days, so 1 month 10 days. Eventually you’ll see it be broken since there will be more and more fans existing but as of now, it’s a ridiculous statistic

>>21374132
she beat grim in 1hr so it is a short stream

>>21372783
It's literally impossible to come to this thread without seeing misinformation about nijisanji

>>21374204
Maybe they support tword independence.

>>21374103
Anon your in the numbers thread. Gura and Mori alone smashed Vtubing records.

A single post derailed the otherwise decent thread yet again
I hate you faggots so much

>>21374205
is this the famous rosemi memebership?

>>21374232
Did she do end pantheons? Path of pain? Smh.

>>21374269
Sorry, schizo hours right now (ES, SEA, NA, CN) where multiple timezones of shitposting intersect.

>>21372781
I just want a chuuba who says "Urusai! Urusai! Urusai!" Are there any?

>>21374298
nah she tought it was going to be harder.

>>21374204
Unlike Nijisanji, Hololive puts more efforts in their auditions because Hololive doesn't have a time limit.
Hololive drops characters because they couldn't find any VA good enough to voice them.
Nijisanji drops characters because they are not making any money.

>>21374265
What records? Fastest sub growth? Vox broke that
Music Sales? Kuzuha has the most
Tell me again, what "records" did they break?

>>21374205
I don't even know why as a Nijisanji fan I lose my time in here correcting the tons of misconceptions you guys have. It's like the objective of this thread is talk about nijisanji in a superficial way without knowing anything outside of that front.

>>21374224
What will happen first? Someone managing to break Gura's record to 1M subs, or Vtubing as a whole reclining?

>>21374158
>If you actually watched nijiEN
Did you miss the "Imagine" thing or were you actually this stupid? Did I say it was true?

>>21367341
it's nice seeing pika getting higher numbers again

>>21374368
Bring out the numbers or fuck off.

>>21374368
>Fastest sub growth? Vox broke that
Anyone who responds to this after me should actually kill themselves.

>>21374344
yep that's a fine addition for the holocope list

>>21374344
Nijisanji never dropped characters, what the fuck are you even talking about? You are so much out of touch that you don't even realize that Oliver, Hayun and Lee On all use models that were advertised in 2019 and finally used in 2021 after they found out people to be in the role.

so what set off the lying schizo off, what happened

>>21374495
This post?
>>21373418

>>21372783
come on now, if you say it like that, retards might actually start believing it

>>21374440
Well sometimes you have to correct the misinformations otherwise some retards are gonna start thinking they're true. But yeah, this one is so blatant a shitpost you shouldn't have given him (You) either.

>>21374453
>>21374484
Man, even the Nijiniggers don't even know about their livers.

I love seeing the genuine Niji fans desperately trying to fight off the baits.

>>21374375
you shouldnt lose time coming here honestly. no one is interested in discussing nijisanji or correct anything wrong. It's just a bunch of holo fans talking about the rival they don't watch with things they read on this board or 5ch. Always has been

>>21374495
probably luxiem being low togheter with the girls.
they still have voxx 500k handcam stream but they have a short fuse.

>>21373805
and you are the reason why niji EN fans is so fucking hated. Even by niji JP fans. You are a fucking cancer.

>>21374453
>Nijifags can't handle truth

>>21374484
ESLfag, If you could read a full sentence, he meant that talents, not characters because they werent making any money. How would a character/model make money? Nijisanji has an in house artist that pumps models/designs out for vtubers.

>>21374378
It’s gonna be tough. I mean unculled HoloX were on that pace initially but culls kind of fucked them up, but that was also the most ridiculous artificial push of a gen we’ve ever seen from Hololive. That was purely a company attempt to make them hit big, with so much shit thrown their way that it was an endless amount of buffs.

But you know, we’ve seen a lot of JP fans come about because of it + pokemon, we saw how council revitalized EN initially. You never know what could happen if another EN gen brings back a bunch of fans and that helps out an eventual JP7 or some shit

>>21374640
Holo "fans" don't even watch Hololive streams

>>21374590
Retard, what the fuck IN has to do with what you said? You talk about characters and about how holo drops character because they cant find them and I present you 3 examples while you show me an actual active vtuber that graduated?

>>21373805
>>21374368
> FASTEST SUB GRO-

>>21374663
I read the full sentence you huge amount of shit. He talked about hololive dropping characters as in the ones from 2019 that weren't used for years and I gave exmaples from it. It's a retarded comparison anyway because he's putting those alongside vtubers as if the comparison makes any sense.
> Nijisanji has an in house artist that pumps models/designs out for vtubers.
Wtf are you even talking about? They only have riggers, not in-house artists.

>>21374453
tell that to Kakage's aborted daughter

>>21373805
>Fastest growing

Yeah okay you dumb faggot. Get your eyes and brain checked on the way out. You're literally a tumor.

>>21374697
Court ruling has associated active vtubers and their characters to have the same identity. Reading reps, retard.

>>21374148
Actually less time than that. Gura reached 1million subs in alittle over a month after her debut

>>21374808
Those got dropped because no one wants to apply for Holo anymore ever since Coco showed what a black company Cover is and how they abuse their talents for the sake of "idol culture"

>>21374681
Oh they do, that's why every stream and event they do is live posted on this thread. If there's even 5 nijisanji fans regulars of this thread it already would be too much.

>>21373805
>failure
anyone who have to resorted themselves to licking the chinks roastie vagina deserves 0 respect and no different than a failure.

>>21374874
Ah yes, and the latest Hololive JP debuts broke all historical debut records.

>>21374375
There's too much shitposting from bad faith faggots (both on the Holo side and Niji sodez though the Niji baits nowadays are all NijiEN flavored) around this time.
Like, other hours of the day, you can probably get reasonable takes and discussion a out people actually interested in Nijisanji and not shitposting but right now is peak clown-time, it's not worth it.

>>21374148
Gura had over 1.6M subs after 3 months, the rest of myth were in the 600K-750K range. Kronii took a little over 2 months to reach 500K but slowed down after that milestone.

>>21374825
>Court ruling has associated active vtubers and their characters to have the same identity.
You will never be a Japanese.

>>21372458
Give me the TLDR, I'm not hearing this faggot.

it's time for the chinks to ruin the thread again. For the love of god please range ban these fucking wumao.

Another Niji vs. Holo cock measuring contest? Barely even about numbers at this point and just plain brand loyalty

>>21374825
Oh my fucking god, are you really that fucking dumb? His example for hololive is about dropping the kakage character designs and I showed that Anykara didn't drop because they found out people for it after years. The comparison itself is extremely retarded because one is with just designs and another is with active vtubers. Which still is hilarious because he acts like HoloCN wasn't a thing that happened and shutdown just like IN.

>>21374946
Stay poor, second-class nigger.

>>21374667
I don't think any new JP Holomems will ever be able to break that record, due to drawing from a much smaller demographic than the EN sphere. I know it sound like a cope, but it is what it is.

>>21374927
Well at least there's some people like you in here who's reasonable, I guess. IIf only more were like you kek

>>21372587
>the right people
>Sana...
>Mori...

>>21374998
Hololive axed HoloCN to exit the bugland, Zhang.

>>21375011
iirc Laplus did beat the record to 300k subs, since someone tracked that for some reason. It's not impossible but it's definitely a very tough ride.

How disappointed is Xi at these nijisisters trying to defend their faggots here instead of pumping out children to help prevent their incoming demographic implosion?

>>21375073
Sana has been unfortunate circumstances after unfortunate circumstances, she's trying to kick it back into gear.

>>21374998
That thing that called itself HoloCN wasn't shut down, it was cut off like the parasite it was.

>>21375111
If HoloID tells anything, the cull has been nerfed for Hololive. The future Hololive debuts have good chances of breaking new records.

I know Gwelu gets decent numbers, but why is it so low this time. Not at his usual time slot?

>>21372153
idk, but this one seems to do tsundere.

>>21375073
Of course Mori was the right person. Other than Gura she has the highest sub-count in Hololive and has the most popular music in Hololive.

>>21374667
>but that was also the most ridiculous artificial push of a gen we’ve ever seen from Hololive
T.Chumpedo
Holo X was just announced out of nowhere just hours before their first debut.
Just a random tweet and ta dah!

>>21375253
I wish Mori wasn't so retarded. She is cute when she is well rested, not nervous, not drunk and not hanging out with her 'cool friends'.
I bet she would become the most SC'd chuubas this way.

>>21375217
Huh

>>21375105
>>21375183
So in the end still shut down and even had Civia and Artia talking about them not doing well. I also remember how even Holo JP was more popular on bilibili than any of the girls. Anyway point is, HoloCN existed and died, same way as IN happened.

>>21375263
That isn't what he means, come on now.
Holox had
>Merch for c99
>New years outfits
>sponsorships
Lined up pretty early, at least that's what I assume they mean by 'artificial push'.

>>21374781
>Holocharacters in 2019 that weren't used for years
>Only the Kakage and parsley characters for march 2020 Duo auditions weren't used because they can't find a suitable talent for them
>All the other Holo characters starting from gen 1 were made by different artists and were all used except for maybe Chris and Aloe due to their circumstances
>Doesn't know that Anycolor has an in house artist who makes all their 2018/2019 models like Edengumi
Yeah, I'm not gonna bother anymore. Clearly you're a shitter.

>>21375111
yellow is days from debut

haachama 5k, seems like her numbers is getting better ?

>>21375263
Some anons treat Laplus getting to take photo with Spiderman and interview Batman is a sign of favoritism. They apparently aren't aware that in Hololive, sponsorships are offered but if the talents themselves don't want it, then they won't force them.

>>21375459
> Believing Zhangs
A fucking Zhang.

>>21375504
No EN is streaming right now, so she gets a bit of spillover.

>>21375504
There is literally zero other holo members streaming now

>>21375462
you think chink fujo would know anything about niji JP? There's a reason why niji JP is well respected here but not a single soul here respects the abomination that is niji EN

>>21375459
>Believing chinks when fucking holostars existed and still exists

>>21375144
Fujos can't reproduce because they busy shipping males all day

>>21375498
Ah, my memories are way off then

>>21375525
also, chloe and iroha haven't even been featured in the main channel yet, the shiritori game was the first appearance for lui and koyo, and that was 4 months after debut, and the vast majority of the sponsorships they've gotten are the group ones that everyone else got, they get pushed as much as everyone else in JP