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>> No.15031568

>>15031550
General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>> No.15031594

Who streams the most hours in holo x?

>> No.15031607
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15031607

Oh no no no no no
nijijp bros not like this
How could this happened?

>> No.15031611

I wonder what kind of people will join HoloEN3 anyway. I doubt Cover will get as many applicants since most indies these days prefer to stay indies. And I doubt Cover can get people from other industries since vtubing does not bring them success like before since the fad is declining.

It makes me fearful of HoloEN3 really. They run out of applicants already.

>> No.15031624

>>15031594
Probably Lui

>> No.15031642

>>15031594
Lui-nee

>> No.15031644

>>15031607
Good
We should start a nijijp vs nijien time loop now

>> No.15031648
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>>15031611
>>15031532
>It makes me fearful of HoloEN3 really. They run out of applicants already.
kek, this but JP6 and three months ago.
>same retarded take

Cover could put a press release today and say
>we’re opening five spots but you must delete your highest viewed VOD as a condition to *apply*
And you would see a Holocaust among low, mid and high viewed EN indies

>> No.15031652

>>15031607
Kanae Killer

>> No.15031656

>>15031496
It's kinda brilliant in a way.
Because she set herself up as so "random" and because of the whole schizo arc, she can afford to make a bunch of mistakes on stream, and it'll now disregarded as "sasuga haachama".
She has had her reflection on stream, and even btfo a doxxfag in her rap contest. Pretty much everyone kneels to GODCHAMA now.

And so, she's made herself invulnerable to Yabs. A mighty fine feat.

>> No.15031662

>>15031607
NijiEN males might be the ticket for international fans to know Nijisanji. I've already seen thousands of clips poppingbup for NijiEN males already, and they get like 100k+ views as well.

>> No.15031683

>all this talk about dwindling CCVs
Nijisanji is known more for its main channel variety shows and big events nowadays, they're basically like SNL. Having their 80% deadweight livers fading away won't hurt the brand because the tourists still come for the main channel stuff regardless of who's there. It's the reverse of hololive where being on the main channel is actually a debuff.

>> No.15031699

>>15031611
If I'm indie, I'll take having 200k subs than 100 subs.

>> No.15031701

>>15031662
Image and numbers thx

>> No.15031706

>>15031662
Show proof.

>> No.15031708

>>15031512
This retarded rrat again. She never farmed gachis. All she did was read all the sc's through additional streams. Not her fault there's a fuck ton of them. Idk why the fuck she's being called a Rushia when she's more like Wamy

>> No.15031711
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15031711

Just passed Lamy.

>> No.15031715

>>15031611
>most indies these days prefer to stay indies
kek, that's how they cope, but as soon as an opportunity for free money comes their way their preaching about freedom is gone in no time and you get a graduation

>> No.15031730

>>15031648
Kek, indies would never care since they foster a loyal fanbase already. Vtubing is a dying fad, no one would want in.

>> No.15031732

>>15031662
so far only mysta has performed above expectations but we'll see how their numbers are in the next couple of weeks

>> No.15031754

>>15031607
Worse thing is that he's stealing the Jp fujo audience lol
I won't be surprised if he's suddenly forced to stream at burger hours soon

>> No.15031758

>>15031732
Is Mysta the flip?

>> No.15031764

>>15031715
What money? Audience are leaving HoloEN in drove

>> No.15031769

>>15031607
> pandering to the
> 1. SEA audience
> 2. Fujoshi audience
a volatile cocktail.
Let's hope they know how to handle themselves.

>> No.15031771

>pink lamy sub 1k
shes turning into a niji...

>> No.15031774
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>>15031711
NIJISANJI MOGGED

>> No.15031780

>>15031611
Lol you actually posted this pile of shit again in the new thread. Kys schizo

>> No.15031784
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15031784

HoloMK announcement tweet got more likes than Miko's Sportfes announcement. Big numbers incoming!

>> No.15031785

>>15031758
the brit

>> No.15031807

>>15031764
90% of holoEN audience could leave tomorrow and they'd still make 100 times more than indies

>> No.15031824

>>15031711
shame it doesn't carry over to his streams
>>14987094

>> No.15031830

>>15031769
SEA women are rich as fuck anons. And they prefer to stay alone, or have sex friend than being in a relationship. If these guys can mamage to woo that auduence, it's free money.

>> No.15031840

>>15031699
It's dumb shitposting, a spot in HoloEN is a guarantee of at least being a top 20 EN vtuber. Even midgets like Bae can get $17k in SCs in 3 weeks.
>>15031732
See, people are already pretending we have 5 Mystas instead of 3 midgets, an above par talent, and a star.

>> No.15031846

>>15031771
She already get 10k and 36k+ earlier. This is just another dumb SC reading

>> No.15031853

>>15031764
But the gachis are staying

>> No.15031857

>>15031784
Twitter activity means shit.

>> No.15031873

>>15031840
>people are already pretending we have 5 Mystas
if people can pretend that holoEN is 10 Guras I don't see why they can't pretend NijiEN is 5 Mystas

>> No.15031882

>>15031846
That's a collab ,retard

>> No.15031884

>>15031784
What how? I don't think it will beat Sportsfes tho

>> No.15031886

>>15031764
Reminder that YT still pays a fuck ton for ad revenue.

>> No.15031889

>>15031807
90%, then that would make Gura a 200 CCV streamer. Kek, even the smallest vtuber has higher numbers than her.

>> No.15031897

>that many people replying to such obvious shitpost
this place deserves all the shizos it gets

>> No.15031899

>>15031830
SEAmonkeys are poorfags, its why dota streamers make no money their entire audience is SEA, SA and russia

>> No.15031910

>>15031830
you know nothing about sea women kek

>> No.15031917

>>15031873
Newfag? People here shit on council and kiara all the time.

>> No.15031924

>>15031830
>SEA
>rich

>> No.15031933

>>15031764
Numbers.

>> No.15031935

>>15031882
Numbers are numbers

>> No.15031936

>>15031889
HoloEN views were already culled 90% by Susan in the first place so she'd still have 20k left

>> No.15031939
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15031939

>>15031764
Really?
They seems stronger than before

>> No.15031946

>>15031853
Gachis are paying flesh women dumbass. Why do you think bathtub streamers get more money than kiddie vtubers?

Touch grass and watch real women.

>> No.15031947

Why art thee wasting time arguing with retards and not post # ?

>> No.15031953

>>15031784
twitter numbers dont mean shit, bora's twitter numbers were coco level

>> No.15031959

>>15031732
That's not really true. Luca was able to get 4k+ on a guerilla stream. Vox is also still doing better than expected. I'd say only shu and ike have yet to show numbers as good as those three.

>> No.15031977

>>15031889
Ratard...your math...

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Chii chan will not give up

>> No.15031996

>>15031889
anonchama your math reps... the absolute state of the numbers thread

>> No.15032001

>>15031939
Fake numbers mean nothing anon. It's being padded up. I hope Susan culls these botted numbers as well, or I will personally report them. Susan needs to know they abuse her hard work.

>> No.15032003

>>15031946
?????? Coomers and males are the one paying bath tub streamers and amourath.

>> No.15032028

>>15031889
HAHA learn math retard.

>> No.15032052

>>15031889
>90%, then that would make Gura a 200 CCV streamer.
Gura, please go to your containment thread and schlick it to your lolicons. Your math skills are shit.

>> No.15032055

>>15031996
Average IQ is going down. Are we reclining? Do we need to graduate the thread?

>> No.15032057

>>15031947
Because Niji is winning and Holofags can't accept that their time is gone. It's time for the young Niji dragon to rise up.

>> No.15032061
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15032061

>>15031946
>bathtub streamers
on twitch? No.

But yeah, higher than vshojo

>> No.15032070

>>15031840
To add to this the sponsorships from Eternal Return and Blue archives plus merch have probably made Bae more than the measly $27.5k(post youtube and Cover take) in SCs she's gotten in 4 months.

>> No.15032071

>>15032001
>Absolutely of states of copium
top kek

>> No.15032073
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15032073

>>15031662
definitely seen a few clips...
views tho...

>> No.15032090

>>15032052
I have 3.7 mil subs, I don't give a fuck about math whenbI make more money than you Reimu.

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jesas

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>>15031959
3k-4k was around what i was expecting with debut buff + first en male group buff.
mysta is performing well above this

>> No.15032113

>TOP WINNER OF DECEMBER 2021
1) Chloe (Hololive) - 98,821 - Archived Karaoke
2) Chloe (Hololive) - 74,800 - The Radio Station
3) Hololive ch (Hololive) - 52,239 - Announcement
4) Shion (Hololive) - 93,815 - Outfit Reveal
5) Chloe (Hololive) - 63,541 - Unarchived Karaoke
6) Ayame (Hololive) - 59,998 - Return Stream
7) Mio (Hololive) - 54,729 - Anniversary Totsu
8) Shion (Hololive) - 89,072 - Birthday 3D
9) Mori (Hololive) - 89,923 - Outfit Reveal
10) Toya (Nijisanji) - 89,652 - Niji Mario Kart Lottery&Rules
11) Ame (Hololive) - 74,496 - Outfit Reveal
12) Gura (Hololive) - 112,093 - Outfit Reveal
13) Ayame (Hololive) - 99,651 - Birthday 3D
14) Chloe (Hololive) - 31,961 - Evil God Korone
15) Pekora (Hololive) - 69,956 - Announcement
16) Korone (Hololive) - 38,596 - Return stream
17) Haruka (Nijisanji) - 25,019 - 3D debut
18) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 69,242 - Mario Kart Tournament
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 187,336 - Outfit reveal
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 46,691 - Pokemon
21) Toya (Nijisanji) - 78,645 - Niji Mario Kart Finals Lottery

>> No.15032116

>>15032073
>kronii on a completely unrelated shit
these seanigs seriously

>> No.15032117
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15032117

>>15032073
>Putting Kronii in thumbnail

>> No.15032122

>>15032073
Kek, the absolute cope when you have to use Google to edit this number.

>> No.15032124

>>15032090
Wipe your tears first while typing, Gura.

>> No.15032135

cunny membership opening stream https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1473317934013759491

>> No.15032141
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15032141

>>15032096
At least beat Lui-nee, Pink Cat

>> No.15032151

>>15032101
They will get 20k medium

>> No.15032174

>>15032073
SEAmonkey spotted

>> No.15032181

>>15032001
Btw, about fake numbers.
Mysta's stream is sitting at 6.5k likes 1.5 hours in.
Baels with a guerilla got 13k at this point.
Who's using bots?
Let the shitflinging begin!

>> No.15032192

It is fucking midnight, nobody is gonna watch a superchat stream except the most loyal gachis.

>> No.15032194

>>15032124
Fuck you Reimu, you and your 200 CCV can cry while I have 20k. You will never be in Hololive, you will never be successful. I swear on my mother's grave.

>> No.15032197

>>15031939
don't bother replying to schizos anon, that just shits up the thread
just click the arrow near the post no. --> Hide post.
That'll stop any samefagging as well.

>> No.15032199

>>15032055
I had to explain that 19 is followed by 20 when this thread was comparing Mumei’s schedule to the NijiEN debuts. I think it’s just a bunch of dumbass tourists and schizos shitting up the thread.

>> No.15032201

looks like migo got invited by sony too, maybe this is be related to their announcement on the 24th https://twitter.com/sakuramiko35/status/1473316926059597826

>> No.15032203

>>15032101
red dude already reclining. the one with highest viewer has SEA slot. Another confirmation that nijifags are seaniggers

>> No.15032224

>>15032073
So even nijiclippers are leeching of hololive huh

>> No.15032227

>>15032194
Please don't bully the poor girl since she visits here.

>> No.15032229

>>15032181
Obviously Hololive. Rikkun will never allow his peecious employee to employ such a dirty tactic. I know it.

>> No.15032233

Have "Fake number" been added to the cope list yet ?

>> No.15032242

>>15032201
Sony perms when.

>> No.15032260

do we seriously have fags RPing as Gura and Reimu in this thread now? Seriously, what went wrong?

>> No.15032263

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>ratio
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Nijisanji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>subs to growth ratio
>subs to SC ratio
>*insert delusion about Selen here*
>VOD views don't count
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>gen 3 should be left alone so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos
>Square Enix doesn't count
>combined peak CCV
>quality numbers
>dead cat bounce
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>Hololive is only popular because of chink clippers
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad
>Rightful sovereignty
>Ichikara has morals
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Nijisanji has a better following than Hololive in the west
>There are no nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>Views don't matter
>only the west speaks english
>outfit reveals don't count
>look at the Twitter interaction
>Fake numbers

>> No.15032269

>>15032233
>Numbers are fake
Is the ultimate cope it'll destroy everything else on that list.

>> No.15032279

>>15032101
Shu's, Luca, and Ike's debut 2.0 viewers are about what Ethyria got for their, except a bit lower and massively lower for Luca.

>> No.15032287

>>15032073
>They have to use hololive to bait views

>> No.15032288

>>15032260
We even have someone who can't math on a numbers thread. Goddamn monkeys

>> No.15032293

>>15031824
His main channel only has 651k subscribers, with the views fluctuating between sub-100k to 300k+.
https://www.youtube.com/c/ChuyMinesito/videos
From looking at the channels tab and the join dates, the shorts channel with the most subs and views is the 3rd and newest one.

>> No.15032294

>>15032260
All time high schizos and bait threads since the intro of en males.

>> No.15032309

>>15032233
>susan's displaying fake numbers, X is actually 30%/50%/200% higher
Which list, the holoEN cope list or the niji cope list?

>> No.15032320

>>15032260
Seanig females that still haven't gone to sleep.

>> No.15032333

>>15032263
holocope

>> No.15032334
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>>15032224
>nijiclippers

>> No.15032335

https://twitter.com/sakuramiko35/status/1473316926059597826

Come on Nijis, post your invitation too

>> No.15032339
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15032339

>>15032260
anons are giving them attention instead of using filters and hiding schizoposts and their samefagging children.

>> No.15032342

>>15032294
It's interesting, the thread was mostly fine about 6 hours ago.

>> No.15032349

>>15032260
>>15032288
For the record: avatarfagging as in the original sense is exactly that (regardless of using pics) and is a reportable offense.

>> No.15032355

>>15032333
nijiseethe

>> No.15032359

>>15031758
>>15031785
Didn't his profile say Brit/Flip?

>> No.15032380

>>15032260
>RP
There was a Chloe and Lui RP for a good while before this, at least they were reasonably funny.
>>15032309
It's one (1) schizo so obvious that he's failing to even get (You)s

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>>15032073
these are the tags in that clip with kronii

>> No.15032404

>>15032386
kek

>> No.15032406

Are there any VTubers on PornHub any is there any way to track their stats?

>> No.15032411
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15032411

Congratulation NijiEN, 2/5 of your Male have defeat the tutorial boss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyFQVZ2h0V8

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15032415

>>15032386
> SEAnigs confirmed

>> No.15032419

*If* extensions and sites that change how YT looks get culled (adblock, holodex, jetri, maybe even YTC or LiveTL), then Ludwig's stupid extension where he pretends to be on Twitch while using only the YT player is *destroying* his CCV. Maybe the funniest example of shooting yourself in the foot in the entire steamer world.

>> No.15032421

>>15032386
Leeching seaniggers as always with clippers.

>> No.15032435

KING WILL collab with the NijiEN males and you will seethe at the numbers. Both of them will incline each other since KING isn't very well known in the West yet.

>> No.15032443

>>15032406
that's vshojo

>> No.15032454

>>15032386
>Gura naked
>harder daddy
I... I can't even...

>> No.15032470
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15032470

>>15031774
Lamy closing in on Kanae too.

>> No.15032491

>>15032113
It's so dirty from nijisanji to do these multiple lottery streams for the sake of milking when 1 stream would've been enough

>> No.15032492

>>15032435
Indeed, why won't he collab with nijien females and go straight to the boys? is he afraid of unicorns from both sides?

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15032494

>>15032386
Seriously?

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>>15032359
yeah, although he only listed English so i'm going to guess he was born in the uk

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>>15032435

>> No.15032512

>>15032443
Any way to track their PornHub stats, or is there nothing keeping track of those?

>> No.15032547

>>15032454
talk about "forcibly acquiring" an audience, huh?

>> No.15032546

>>15032386
Man I hope Cover can strike these channels for misusing their brand names on irrelevant shit

>> No.15032561

>>15032386
>uto
lol wtf

>> No.15032605

>>15031939
All im gathering from this is holoX is already trampled by old juggernauts of Hololive already and that Chloe has fallen below La+ and barely beats Iroha. What happened there

>> No.15032619

>>15032512
why in the world would you want to?

>> No.15032633

>>15032605
spamming SC reading streams

>> No.15032634

>>15032619
To compare their stats with each other/VTubers from other sites.

>> No.15032662

I hope YT rolls out their own raid system so this thread will go to shit ever further.

Although, does YT even have enough streamers for raids anyway?

>> No.15032671

>>15032605
I think La+ has a chance to stay among the 20k juggernauts in the long run. The others, i doubt it.

>> No.15032681

>>15032633
Oh i see i guess that would fucking tank ccv

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15032687

>>15032386
It's a hololive clip channel. What do you expect. That Vox clip is his first non-hololive clip.

>> No.15032696

>>15032671
Iroha seems like she is always gonna get a 15k. The other three look sub 10k and Lui will be 6k~

>> No.15032706

>>15032687
why are EN clippers so shit?

>> No.15032719

Dude who has almost 15M sub wants to enter vtuber scene

https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/youtuber-kwebbelkop-quitting-channel-to-replace-himself-with-vtuber-1724700/

His main channel is dying desu

>> No.15032757

>>15032719
convert, doesn't count

>> No.15032800

>>15032719
He could start his own company

>> No.15032842

Why would anyone want to be a vtuber anyway? It's dying faster than Tiger King, and Tiger King was more popular than vtubing ever was.

>> No.15032849

>>15032719
https://www.youtube.com/c/kwebbelkop/videos
Went down to 14.9 subs. His recent video views randomly fluctuate between less than 100k to several hundred thousands.
>>15032757
I guess if he starts a new channel solely dedicated to VTubing, it'll count.

>> No.15032867

>https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1473324625207885825
Even La+ was invited

>> No.15032872
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15032872

>>15032719
I hope this is just a troll to grab attention.

>> No.15032883

>>15032849
seems like its this one https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCThpqugf-64f0Le2_33JISg

>> No.15032890
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15032890

>>15032719
....

>> No.15032891

https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1473324625207885825
https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1473324625207885825
https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1473324625207885825
Laplus got invited by Sony too

>> No.15032903

>>15032757
>>15032849
>new channel
Yes it will count

>> No.15032907

>>15032872
Looks like a desperate gamble on a gimmick he thinks that he could replicate.

>> No.15032927

>>15032867
Why isn't Sony using nijis for this?

>> No.15032932

>>15032842
They get lured by the allure of money which is dumb because being a regular youtuber is probably the same. The Holo and Niji business model only works because they are JP companies with access to anime style artists.

>> No.15032939

>>15032891
Fucking hell, I wonder why they're doing this. I know Laplus loves capeshit; Krone and Miko do too.

>> No.15032947

>>15032927
Who?

>> No.15032955

>>15032891
Holo7:Spider Legacy
sponsored by Sony

>> No.15032959

>>15032927
We will likely see them tomorrow, low priority, pardun

>> No.15032976

>>15032891
wait what laplus already? she just debuted

>> No.15032993

>>15032939
Vtubers are getting more mainstream. There is a sizable overlap between vtuber fans and capeshit fans.

>> No.15033009

>>15032883
The first upload was 8 months ago. Most of his recent videos get less than 50k, with a few random ones getting 100k-300k+.

>> No.15033010

>>15032976
she gets good numbers and is the only member of holoX that isnt retarded enough to spam SC reading streams

>> No.15033023
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15033023

TICK TOCK DUCK

>> No.15033030

>Sana got 2k subs in the last 12 hours
Looks like it went well since she's lucky to get 1k a day

>> No.15033047

>>15033010
things like these are planned weeks or even months in advance

>> No.15033061

>>15032976
Yes, sponsors already. HoloX 3D debuts most likely coming real soon too

>> No.15033082

>>15032927
Maybe they are. I don't follow and Nijis so I can't tell.

SME and Sony Pictures aren't the same thing so SME's ties with Anycolor don't matter.

>> No.15033083

>>15033010
She doesn't read sc there's nothing to spam Jesas

>> No.15033107

>>15033047
Cover has been laying the ground work for gen 6 for a while since they're headlining C99 for them and this. They expected Laplus to be a hit.

>> No.15033126

>>15033061
Speaking of HoloX 3D debuts, that numbers will they get? 100k should be easy for most of them.

>> No.15033128

>>15033047
lmao you are right, I forgot it hasn't been a month holy shit

>> No.15033147

>>15033061
Gura and Ame must be seething. They're getting more resentful and distancing themselves from the company I bet.

>> No.15033148

>>15032927
This is Sony Pictures, anon; an American company. They actually know how to hold marketing campaigns.

>> No.15033155

>>15033107
A hit they got. Look at this all dummies who want to use cunny buff to bolster their numbers. THIS is how you use the cunny buff, by getting someone who fits the role both voice and personality.

>> No.15033157

>>15033126
their designs are great even for Lui (except the shitty headwing), so yes 150k

>> No.15033163

>>15032891
Is that her 3D model?

>> No.15033166

>>15033030
2 week Christmas break incoming

>> No.15033180

>>15033147
Meds anon, take yours.

>> No.15033183

>>15033163
No it's just her live2d

>> No.15033232

>>15033166
>hiring an active artist might have been a bad idea
What was Omega thinking when they chose her?

>> No.15033259
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15033259

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>78,645: Toya (Nijisanji)
>58,934: Nene (Hololive)
>36,570: Koyori (Hololive)
>33,223: Pekora (Hololive)
>22,776: Laplus (Hololive)
>22,712: Amelia (Hololive)
>19,282: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,287: Lui (Hololive)
>17,790: Lize (Nijisanji)
>15,561: Iroha (Hololive)
>14,832: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>14,801: Patra (774 inc.)
>12,764: Haneru (774 inc.)
>12,702: Tamaki (Noripro)
>12,559: Calli (Hololive)
>11,607: Kronii (Hololive)
>10,745: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,561: Kanata (Hololive)
>10,450: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>10,239: Shion (Hololive)
>10,133: Flare (Hololive)

>> No.15033286

>>15031611
Dude, first couple gens have some of the best talent and they joined with lmao 2view niconico video maker on their resume.

>> No.15033293

>>15032605
This is why median CCV doesn't mean shit, they're doing really well for hours watched

>> No.15033330

>>15029838
>>15029934
>>15029948
>>15030038
>>15030050
>>15030075
>>15030113
Dream and Jacksepticeye are neck-and-neck in sub count right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oArnHI4FUOs

>> No.15033374

>>15033232
Probably expected another Ina.

>> No.15033380

>>15033232
Probably thought they could get another Ina. Instead they got a bogey.

>> No.15033400
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15033400

In the end all NijiEN can hope to do is suck Big streamer dick for clout. Shame.

>> No.15033413

>>15033259
It's not so crazy anymore. Only 21 streams above 10k. That Shion number is embarrassingly low specially.

>> No.15033445
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>>15033293
>This is why median CCV doesn't mean shit, they're doing really well for hours watched
There is no significant difference between the median of peak CCV ranking and the hours watched ranking

>> No.15033458

>>15033413
Nah, she got $4k in return

>> No.15033479
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15033479

I still remember when everyone was doomposting about how underwhelming Iroha was while treating Chloe as the second coming of Gura

>> No.15033520

>>15033479
Instead Chloe is a ridiculous money vacuum the likes we have NEVER seen before in vtubing.

>> No.15033570

>>15032279
Luca's guerilla performed a lot better tho >>15032101

>> No.15033580

>>15033479
Chloe is underperforming a bit because of overexposure, I'm sure her average will be higher that Iroha's ultimately even if it's just by a bit.

>> No.15033587

>>15033259
Feels like it's been a while since I see Tamaki and Haneru in this

>> No.15033595

>>15033520
She's not even doing anything special lol. She's just cute

>> No.15033597

>>15033520
Eh I'd eat my dick if she can keep it up once collab ban ends. I'd guess there're a lot of tourists in her gachikoi pool who could potentially jump ship to other more gfe oriented holos in the future, NTR style.

>> No.15033619

>>15033580
>underperforming a bit because of overexposure
Please explain this logic to my esl ass

>> No.15033648

>>15033597
It's possible, it's possible.
If she can keep up with Rushia on a month-to-month basis, then Hololive has struck gold and found their Coco replacement.

>> No.15033667

>>15033619
Too many streams -> People don't feel as compelled to try and catch you live

>> No.15033686

>>15033619
She is so popular that no one watches her. Do not worry, it’s not suppose to make sense. Every schizo poster takes a solid 1-2 years before they become really proficient at it.

>> No.15033697

>>15033445
Chloe going from 10th to 3rd, Iroha from 11th to 5th, Koyori from 13th to 6th, and Lui from 27th to 9th isn't a significant difference?

>> No.15033698

>>15033686
see
>>15033667

>> No.15033722

>>15033126
LaPlus and Chloe will get over 200k

>> No.15033760

>>15033259
Hololive 14
Nijisanji 3
774 inc. 2
merise 1

Gold for Nijisanji and 3 out of the top ten.

>> No.15033763

>>15033667
>>15033686
I'd argue that Undertale or SC readings are shit choices for a stream. She could've gone for more Horror or a viewer participation stream.

>> No.15033787

Daily Chloe update: Sakamata Chloe now has $201,844 in total superchats and just 11 days after her monetization is the 104th most superchatted vtuber ever. Today she surpassed
>Amamiya Kokoro

>> No.15033818

>>15033722
Laplus sure, Chloe hell nah. Shit I'd bet even Iroha would get more, considering how godawful Chloe has been performing in ccv this early. She's gonna be another niche chuuba with a strong gachikoi following.

>> No.15033837

>>15033787
That's about $70k take home. Joining hololive is good business sense, makes me wonder why more people don't do it.

>> No.15033843

>>15033763
Agreed. For Sc readings, those were unfortunately an obligation she had to get through, you DID see how many goddamn fucking SCs she got on her monetization stream right?
Undertale, whoever suggested for her to do that needs to fucking neck themselves. What a fucking waste of a debut buff. She also went into it blind since she's just wasting her time stuck in a neutral dead-end run.

>> No.15033856

>>15033763
She hasn't done an sc reading only sched for a single day. Her sc readings are on top of a game, zatsu or uta for that day. Quit bringing this up like she's Kronii where her only stream for the day is a fucking SC reading

>> No.15033863

>>15033787
she makes it look so easy

>> No.15033935
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15033935

Rosemi and Enna got passed.

>> No.15033947

>>15033837
Because is so good, people will flood it and then others would rather stay on their places just to not drop everything on a losing fight.

>> No.15033955

>>15033935
It's coming....
THE ADVENT OF MANJISANJI

>> No.15033964

>>15033843
Unfortunately for her, the first month is absolutely crucial for a chuuba in building a fanbase and establishing themselves because they're at their peak interest but Chloe squandered all that in favor of gachi pandering. She's gonna have a hard time regaining people's attention, now that Laplus and Iroha stole her thunder.

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>>15033787
:( my poor daughterwife...

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>>15033964
I'm sure she'll be crying herself to sleep as the third most watched and by far most superchatted vtuber this month

>> No.15034035
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15034035

Here is all of the 28 streams by Nijisanji EN channels with 5k or more peak CCV (outside of the debuts) on Mado record (meaning after 2021-07-17)

>15x: Selen
>2x: the official channel, Mysta, Rosemi, Elira, Petra
>1x: Millie, Vox, Pomu

Today's Mysta stream is the third highest NijiEN stream trailing only Selen BDay and Petra collab with NijiJP

>> No.15034057

>>15033837
>Joining hololive is good business sense, makes me wonder why more people don't do it.
There's only so many spots available each debut and Cover has their own esoteric method for talent selection.

>> No.15034074
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15034074

Nijisisters, there is gonna be massive overlaps today. Don't expect numbers that are really big.

Also I'm not sure I dislike this strategy, keep NijiEN on all the time in case there are bored people. HoloEN only has 2 watchalongs, a Kronii game, and an IRyS shill stream.

>> No.15034091

>>15034057
Say it with me : "Black Magic Voodoo Scouting"

>> No.15034131

>>15034074
>Petra and Reimu doing a zatsu together
>2 POV
WHY, YOU DUMB BROADS!

Or Reimu schedule is just to remind her audience she won't be there?

>> No.15034183

>>15033837
Since cover got big they've only gone through three recruiting cycles and brought in 11 people. If you include gen 5 and EN in the period before they got big then that brings it up to 26 people. That's not a career move, that's hoping you hit the lottery.

>> No.15034186

>>15034035
His first game stream actually got more than his debut 2.0 aint that something

>> No.15034214

>>15034131
That special window is just a placeholder for scheduled stream, it doesn't necessarily mean she'll have her own stream up.

>> No.15034239

>>15034183
>If you include gen 5 and EN in the period before they got big
Yes they were big before EN debuted you fucking newfag globaltard

>> No.15034255

>>15034021
Orca can finally buy some winter clothes...

>> No.15034276

>>15034239
hence why I included it in the example you fucking cunt

>> No.15034283

>>15032605
Chloe sold her subgrowth and her CCV in the name of having ridiculous SCs numbers. She almost guaranteed to have the best month ever in SCs, not counting graduating boosted Coco or course.

>> No.15034300

>>15034021
Yeah. This month.

>> No.15034314
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15034314

She just doesn't stop

>> No.15034318

>>15033935
If Elira didn't have the 'sister' thing going for her would she be selling as much as Selen?

>> No.15034356

>>15033837
Back in 2019, Nijisanji was also in a similar position.
But then they decided to debut/recruit like 30-50 talents that year, and the supposed "value" of being a Nijisanji talent kinda tanked, because now pretty much everyone was Nijisanji.

>> No.15034406

>>15034318
Yes? She doesn't get talked about much here but Elira is still by most metrics the second biggest Niji EN after Selen and the most subbed

>> No.15034500

So, Luxiem is kinda like Council? Two relevants, 3 Irrelevants. They aren't gonna be the powerhouse Myth came out to be that bulldozes niches like Singer, Artist and Creatividad?

>> No.15034545
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15034545

Patra passed Reine.

>> No.15034566

>>15034314
Not so fast friend.

>> No.15034686

>>15034035
And most of those streams are collabs

>> No.15034711

>>15034500
i think only mista will be breaktrough
i expect akuma to fall down since he is kinda boring on his own

>> No.15034733

>>15034183
>If you include gen 5 and EN in the period before they got big then that brings it up to 26 people.
>26 people
IRyS...

>> No.15034759

>>15034500
>Luxiem is kinda like Council?
Come on, give them at least one week before calling them lazy like that.

>> No.15034764

>>15034733
It actually should've been 21, I somehow added an extra gen in there.
And yes Irys is already accounted for

>> No.15034905

>>15034764
Setting the cutoff after G4, from 2020 onwards we got:
>HoloID1
>HoloJP5
>HoloEN1
>HoloID2
>HoloEN Hornium
>HoloEN2
>HoloJP6
3+5+5+3+1+5+5 = 27 (-2) = 25

>> No.15034934

>>15034905
>Hornium
What?

>> No.15035014

>>15034905
I actually forgot to account for the IDs in there, because they aren't usually brought up in numbers discussion, but I suppose they are pretty big for IDs so yeah, my bad.
Anyway the point is that joining hololive is as much a business decision as hoping you hit the lottery is so planning on joining them is not something that people do.

>> No.15035020

>>15033163
Yes, it was a bold choice to switch to black and red color scheme but i think it payed off.

>> No.15035058

Still Still Stellar (Suisei) sold 397 Physical Copies (22,338 Total)
UTOPIA (Amatsuka Uto) sold 384 Physical Copies (Rank 125)
Reflexion (Nijisanji) sold 372 Physical Copies (15,237 Total)
Sunny!! (PMaru-sama) sold 299 Physical Copies (22,249 Total)

>> No.15035067

>>15034934
Did I stutter?

>> No.15035096

>>15035058
>UTOPIA (Amatsuka Uto) sold 384 Physical Copies
Just released? Otherwise, what's the total sale?

>> No.15035109

>>15035067
Is that some Irys thing that I'm missing because I don't watch her?

>> No.15035122

>>15035058
Does Uto and Pmaru signed to label?

>> No.15035137

>>15033413
wasn't that the 4AM stream that bait anons kept trying to bait with?
really high number for the hour.

>> No.15035144

>>15034905
I'd say when ID1 debut Niji was still the bigger company, although Holo were definitely inclining hard then. By gen 5 debuts they were definitely the biggest.

>> No.15035169

>>15035109
Oh boy...
He doesn't know.

>> No.15035186

>>15034074
is still a stupid strategy but now they have 15 streamers so is inevitable unless they go to shit timeslots for the long run.

>> No.15035189

>>15035096
From the look of it that's the total sale and I don't think it will ever rank again.

>> No.15035225

>>15034905
What about homostars?

>> No.15035269

>>15035058
Fun Fact, Suisei's album was Ranked 26 on last week's CDJapan weekly ranking.
>>15035122
Uto's album is being publish by Pony Canyon and apparently has songs written by OSTER Project, Crusher, KOTONOHOUSE, nyankobrq, and Camellia
PMaru is under STPR Records (the same label as the strawberry prince guys)

>> No.15035317

>>15033259
>14,801: Patra (774 inc.)
>12,764: Haneru (774 inc.)
>12,702: Tamaki (Noripro)
Nive and rare to see this kind of variety, especially so close.
As to why, both Tamaki and Haneru had multi vtuber collabs and Patra, her usual late night monday ASMR.

>> No.15035330

>>15032719
That guy makes me look handsome

>> No.15035424

https://youtu.be/AI1s_lDMOFE
ITS OGRE FOR BOTH NIJI AND HOLO

>> No.15035545

>>15035317
Just a shame that the only non-Holo/Nijis to make the list either had Nijis as guests or in Patra's case did her speciality that gets over triple what she gets even for her birthday

>> No.15035547

>>15035014
If we're being realistic here. You can actually plan for it if you're looking at this on the long term. As a 2view, you should look up what Hololive does and what they lack so that you can develop a skill set that increases your chances of being hired. Try being competent in:
>musical skills (song, dance, playing instruments)
>digital art skills (drawing, illustration, 3D modeling, etc)
>culinary skills
>talking skills (hosting, chatting, voice acting)
>language skills: mainly JP, EN, ID (or a combination thereof but optionally KR, ES, FR, DE, RU (Chinese of any variation need not apply)
>have charisma
>have a sob story to get YAGOO's Emiya hard

>>15035225
Holostars fall outside of the Hololive corporate structure and aren't really popular.

>> No.15035613

>>15035545
>the only non-Holo/Nijis to make the list either had Nijis as guests or in Patra's case di-
Emperor... ;-(

Honorary Niji, I assume

>> No.15035645
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15035645

>Your oshi will never surpass this

>> No.15035800
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15035800

>>15035645
screenshotted too early anon

>> No.15035833

>>15035269
>and apparently has songs written by OSTER Project, Crusher, KOTONOHOUSE, nyankobrq, and Camellia
Something "very common" for an indie with no connections to any company (after, of course, having her connections to a company found out after trying to hide, then declaring all ties to said company severed).

Anyway, selling under 400 copies on opening is very low, AT VERY LEAST you would expect 500 copies being bought even as a publicity stunt (to send to family, friends, gachis)

>> No.15035891

>>15035645
Grefg : 2.4 M ccv btw

>> No.15035919

>>15035613
Whoops serves me right for just reading the reply and not the whole chart. I'll admit Hal's grinding hard and working smart to become probably the biggest chuuba outside of the duopoly is very impressive, I'm curious to see how he rides out the inevitable eventual death of Apex though

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>> No.15036052

jwu so, Holos invited by Superior Sony than lame niji Sony?

>> No.15036095

>>15035547
By the point you get good enough at those skills to compete with the thousands of other applicants also competing for that spot, Hololive would either be dead, or be nijisanji. It's like those dumbasses learning how to rig live2ds now to take advantage of the flood of new vtubers entering the market, when by the time they get good enough at it to charge money for it the fad would've long gone past and the only ones still in business are the absolute cream of the crop.

>> No.15036124

>>15036030
mori sure has been grinding these past few months, so much for 5%

>> No.15036214

>>15036124
She mentioned she wants to beat Kiara for most streamed hours in EN

>> No.15036217

>>15034545
ASMR is heavily underestimated

>> No.15036218

>>15036095
>It's been 5 years and he still thinks VTubing is a fad
Sure, anon. It will go away any minute now

>> No.15036278

>>15036214
i think you got it wrong, she wanted to beat kiara for longest stream in holoEN since her 1M endurance was the longest one until kiara took it with her own 1M endurance stream

>> No.15036354

>>15036218
anon, when I say fad I mean the thousands of fresh debuts happening each month. That period is already dying down, and long gone are the crowds of hundreds of fresh eyed dumbasses willing for fork over hundreds if not thousands of dollars for entry level rigs because they think that's all they need to be the next hololive. Vtubing as a whole won't vanish, but the gold rush certainly did.

>> No.15036418

>>15036095
I'm not even a Holofag but at this point I'm fairly convinced Hololive is the Disney or Nintendo of vtubing, yes there was a lot of changes at the top from 2016 to 2020 but it was a very young and volatile industry then, at this point the top chuubas have been at the top for longer than Ai was at the top for and show no signs of slowing down or being overtaken by a hungry competitor.

>> No.15036493
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15036493

* List of Gold, Q4 2021 so far *

OCTOBER
1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.5k - Summer craft championship
19) Suisei (Hololive) - 83.5k - Outfit Reveal
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 26.4k - Minecraft
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 63.2k - Survival Island End Stream
22) Pekora (Hololive) - 32.2k - Minecraft
23) Hal (Indie/Merise) - 45k - Merise Announcement
24) Miko (Hololive) - 65k - Sportfes Announcement
25) Miko (Hololive) - 32.7k - Minecraft (Sportfes preparation)
26) Rushia (Hololive) - 30.4k - Umamusume gacha
27) Pekora (Hololive) - 50k - Minecraft (PekoMiko)
28) Hal (Merise) - 35k - Apex Custom (Stacked Pros&Preds)
29) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.8k - Minecraft
30) Marine (Hololive) - 76k - Return stream
31) Mel (Hololive) - 58.3k - Birthday 3D

NOVEMBER
1) Marine (Hololive) - 34.7k - Karaoke
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 42.5 - Minecraft (Sport fest prep)
3) Chronoir (Nijisanji) - 48.9k - Announcement
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 36.4k - Rhythm Heaven
5) Luis Cammy (Nijisanji) - 39.4k - 3D Debut
6) Miko (Hololive) - 81.5k - Minecraft Sports Fest
7) Miko (Hololive) - 69.7k - Sport Fest Totsu
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.6k - Evil God korone
9) Subaru (Hololive) - 44k - Evil God Korone
10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 56k - Kuzuha Concert Free Part
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 55k - First FFXIV stream
12) Fumi (Nijisanji) - 38k - 3D Debut
13) Rushia (Hololive) - 81k - Outfit reveal
14) Marine (Hololive) - 81.8k - Subaru's High profile case
15) Lamy (Hololive) - 83.3k - Birthday 3D
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 31.8k - Ape Escape 3
17) Marine (Hololive) - 34k - Bus Simulator
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 82.5k - Minecraft Mod with Marine
19) Towa (Hololive) - 47.5k - Mario Party
20) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 95k - Splatoon Tourney day 1
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 88.2k - Splatoon Tourney day 2
22) Subaru (Hololive) - 31.5k - Pokemon Challenge (vs Okayu)
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.7k - Karaoke Relay
24) Noel (Hololive) - 56.9k - Birthday Totsu
25) Hololive (Hololive) - 58.6k - Gen 3 Concert Free Part
26) La+ (Hololive) - 167.6k - Debut
27) Lui (Hololive) - 149.8k - Debut
28) Koyori (Hololive) - 180.5k - Debut
29) Chloe (Hololive) - 176.7k - Debut
30) Iroha (Hololive) - 175.8k - Debut

DECEMBER
1) Chloe (Hololive) - 98,821 - Archived Karaoke
2) Chloe (Hololive) - 74,800 - The Radio Station
3) Hololive ch (Hololive) - 52,239 - Announcement
4) Shion (Hololive) - 93,815 - Outfit Reveal
5) Chloe (Hololive) - 63,541 - Unarchived Karaoke
6) Ayame (Hololive) - 59,998 - Return Stream
7) Mio (Hololive) - 54,729 - Anniversary Totsu
8) Shion (Hololive) - 89,072 - Birthday 3D
9) Calli (Hololive) - 89,923 - Outfit Reveal
10) Toya (Nijisanji) - 89,652 - Niji Mario Kart Lottery&Rules
11) Ame (Hololive) - 74,496 - Outfit Reveal
12) Gura (Hololive) - 112,093 - Outfit Reveal
13) Ayame (Hololive) - 99,651 - Birthday 3D
14) Chloe (Hololive) - 31,961 - Evil God Korone
15) Pekora (Hololive) - 69,956 - Announcement
16) Korone (Hololive) - 38,596 - Return stream
17) Haruka (Nijisanji) - 25,019 - 3D debut
18) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 69,242 - Mario Kart Tournament
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 187,336 - Outfit reveal
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 46,691 - Pokemon
21) Toya (Nijisanji) - 78,645 - Niji Mario Kart Finals Lottery

>> No.15036517

>>15035645
>cant even get 300k
dead subs?

also yo is doing a guerilla twitter space with 3.7k right now

>> No.15036542
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>>15036493
* Tally per company *

Hololive: 64 gold
>19x: Pekora
>5x: Chloe
>5x: Subaru
>4x: Marine, Miko
>3x: Ayame
>2x: Rushia, Noel, Korone, Shion, Hololive Main Channel
>1x: Calli, Gura, Mio, Mel, Koyori, Luna, Iroha, Fubuki, Suisei, La+, Towa, Lamy, Ame, Lui

Nijisanji: 15 gold
>5x: Nijisanji Main Channel
>2x: Toya, Kuzuha
>1x: Naraka, Haruka, Fumi, Chronoir, Kanae, Luis Cammy

Merise: 3 gold
>3x: Hal

>> No.15036592

>>15035058
doesn't uto have a mostly foreign fanbase?

>> No.15036614

>>15035919
>to become probably
See >>15036542, it's not just that he is definitely the biggest non major Vtuber right now, it is that his excellent Q4 is actually a **recline** from his Q3

>> No.15036669

>>15036354
That doesn't mean that learning Live2d is useless. There will always be a steady supply of people who want one. Also, Live2d isn't only used for VTubing. Arguably, game animation is even bigger market.

>> No.15036674

>>15035833
>Something "very common" for an indie with no connections to any company
Are you retarded? The post you replied to literally says it's published by Pony Canyon.

>> No.15036676

>>15033259
Wow based Nene.

What did Toya do?

>> No.15036725

>>15036418
I think Nijisanji expanding as fast as it did really did dilute the brand.
It went from a premium brand full of top streamers to everyone and their mom can get into it (at least until they stopped auditions for a year).

>> No.15036735

>>15033259
>EN christmas doesnt even make the top 5
based gen X

>> No.15036801

>>15031769
SEA holds men to a different standard.
Fujos don't actually live in reality so it doesn't matter what you do there.

>> No.15036808

>>15036669
That wasn't the claim I made, the claim I made is that learning live2d now because you see alot of people rushing to get live2d rigs is stupid because by the time you get good enough to start charging money for it there won't be enough people out there left willing to pay you money for your most likely shitty rig while the ones that are willing to pay have hundreds of extremely skilled live2d riggers to pick from.

>> No.15036814

>>15035547
>Holostars fall outside of the Hololive corporate structure
Not really they're also a part of Hololive Production

>> No.15036827

>>15036735
Doesn't deserve a top 5 spot.
Chose a shit timeslot for a good chunk of EN and had 2 debuff POVs.
That's purely from a numbers perspective of course. It's also wearing itself out as a novelty to have all these events in VR.

>> No.15036866

>>15035317
>Nive and rare
Both of them get those numbers only because of their leeching.

>> No.15036926

>>15035547
They're in the same structure as Hololive. They even share managers as Hololive uses Shinove to do stuff for the females as well.

>> No.15036950

>>15036674
Pony Cayon is both producing and publishing?

>> No.15036977

>>15036676
>What did Toya do
Beaten holos

>> No.15036994

>>15036814
They may be now but they weren't when the last gen debuted, were they?

>> No.15037001

>>15036866
kys retard

>> No.15037080

>>15036926
Isn't Shinove basically the dedicated bodyguard for the girls

>> No.15037108

>>15036994
Wrong.
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000173.000030268.html

>> No.15037143

>>15037108
Thanks for the link. My mind is playing tricks on me, I thought the Hololive Productions merge had happened after the chinkout

>> No.15037161

>>15037001
Cope. Leeches be leeching.

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>>15033580
>he thinks orca can defeat a Japanese Saber Face vtuber
Boy are you in for a bad time.

>> No.15037264

>>15036542
At the end it looks like Pekora will have more gold than Niji in Q4. Niji will take 3 days: 2 with tournament and 31st with music thing, but it will put them on 18 against Pekora's 19. Unless they take one of other 7 days and Pekora takes nothing, they will lose Q4. With how weak Niji are it's more fun for me to compare them with Pekora alone than Hololive as a whole.

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>>15036735

>> No.15037409

Not numbers related but could become: this Kiara new model turns me off the HELL of a lot less than her original one.
She may end up inclining with this new model. Losing the double hat and also **unbraiding** her hair (kek) will likely improve her standing and maybe her numbers as well

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>>15037313

>> No.15037448

>>15037409
pic related

>> No.15037465

>>15036542
>33% of all gold in Nijisanji isn't earned by a liver
Do people who participate in those main channel streams get at least some cut of the revenue, or are they literally allow corporate to cannibalize their viewership for free?

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>>15037448
Wut, come pic, post damnit!

>> No.15037521

>>15037409
well she's getting about the same numbers as she usually does for her sims streams. Then again it's during the christmas season so it has to count for something. We'll have to see how well this thing shakes out after a month or two

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>>15037465
>get at least some cut of the revenue
They get their monthly salary doubled, that's 100% confirmed

>> No.15037546

>>15037465
In exchange for helping with organizing the tournament, Nijisanji gets everything.

>> No.15037588
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Millie...

>> No.15037611

>>15037522
Oh anon....I.....
(Yes Yes let's not fret the details okay?!)

>> No.15037625

>>15037521
It's a long term thing. I don't think it will be overnight but it may help her.
Now if only she fixes her audio settings and stop yelling at the mic.

>> No.15037658

>>15037588
Nijisanji has the same restictions as hololive when it comes to ace attorney games (can't show the ending of cases) so yeah why the fuck would anyone bother playing them?

>> No.15037675

Current status of the HoloEN "12 days of Christmas Cover" : 300k in ~17 hours
Right onto the goddamn covers of the week top 10 it goes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPyLnwSXqkA

>> No.15037706

>>15036493
Hololive wins gold 78% of the time. I think they are 55 of 63 for total medals in December meaning they win about 87% of the medals recently.

>> No.15037722
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>SEA isn't known for trannies.
Can this thread be salvage or the good people here are all stuck in a timeloop of stupidity and regret?

>> No.15037793

>>15037522
So Selene was forced to watch 3 hours of Ethyria debuts live for free? wtf

>> No.15037818
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>Chloe is $2k away from beating Choco's lifetime earnings

>> No.15037819

>>15037675
The worst christmas carol...

>> No.15037871

>>15036827
seafoamfaggot about to lose his moneyfaucet?

>> No.15037915

>>15037871
Not for a long time

>> No.15037979

>>15037819
Just take it as proof of concept of the strength of HoloEN anonchama, hopefully this will lead into more and better songs going forward since the interest is clearly there

>> No.15037992

>>15037313
this bitch has a smug face same close to Watame's.
Is she gonna become the next iteration of watamage/watamelon?

>> No.15038022

>>15037675
How well does this cover perform compared to the country roads one?

>> No.15038042

>>15037409
yeah new costume is one hell of a buff.
I could see it becoming similar to the Flare situation, where she just continues streaming with the new outfit for a year until her old one gets remade into a more palatable one.

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>>15037992

>> No.15038080

>>15031857
it means more when you don't pay for it

>> No.15038117

>>15037793
She made it back by stealing their audience tho

>>15037818
That's like kicking a puppy, Choco spent a sizable part of her first year demonetized

>> No.15038132

>>15032135
Im expecting 5k

>> No.15038162

>>15038117
But it was also her audience that tuned in to listen to her, no?

>> No.15038215
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15038215

Superchat - December

HoloEN $206,397

> Myth $136,049
> Hope+Council $70,347

NijiEN $121,438

> Wave1 $23,271
> Wave2 $51,728
> Wave3 $46,439

>captcha GAYJN

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I thought people were kidding...

>> No.15038277

>>15038022
Alot weaker, but this is definitely hitting one million within the week

>> No.15038279

>>15038022
I don't have day 1 stats, but I was able to dig out the weekly ranking for when Country Roads was released.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBT3ZCMmn-s
It hit #1 at 659k Views from its debut time 'til the Cut-off point for the ranking video (About a full week).

>> No.15038283

>>15038215
Since when did mori created such a gap with kiara in SC's? i remembered they were pretty toe to toe in the past with kiara sometimes getting more than her

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>>15038046

>> No.15038301

>>15031882
the first of which had 2 POVs, so, irrelevant.

>> No.15038311

>>15032976
>>15032891
most likely Sony sent some tickets to Cover and they gave it to some holos to promote the movie

>> No.15038329

>>15037979
they should just sing the best christmas song, carol of the bellsor snow halation

>> No.15038337

>>15038215
Its not fair bros. Even the fucking lowest earners on the list are making more than most highly educated workers here (unless they aggressively change companies and get raises that way).

>> No.15038361

>>15038260
Anon, she was speaking JP. Collabing with a gook. During EN times. Stacking debuff on debuff on debuff is bound to murder one's numbers.
>>15038277
Not really 'a lot weaker'
See >>15038279

>> No.15038376

>>15038311
Invitational.

>> No.15038382

>>15038215
>HoloEN $206,397
>Sakamata Chloe $201,844
it's gonna be a Chlose one!

>> No.15038393

>>15038215
Is Elira having a particularly bad month? She was second only to Selen in November in CCV IIRC

>> No.15038465

>>15033763
this, personally I think her character goes more with horror games

>> No.15038533

Looking at Chloe numbers is it fair to say that karaoke streams are buff for her and tha she focused more on those in place of Zatsu streams

>> No.15038581

>>15038295
It's just a good month for Mori, there's been months that Kiara beat her too

>> No.15038625

>>15038393
pretty sure it was due to selen and millie having a lot going on which buffed them a bit

>> No.15038726

>>15038337
>highly educated workers here
Maybe those highly educated workers should've become entrepreneurs instead of slaving for others

>> No.15038750

>>15038625
Elira is trailing Reimu. I'm not talking about the fact Selen and Millie are sky high but about Elira being almost dead last

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Guerilla space at 4am on a weekday numbers

>> No.15038844

>>15033520
She actually did rather mediocre during this zatsudan
Iroha got 1.2 million yen, Chloe 500k+
I'm not sure she will continue to be the supacha queen of the 6th gen next month

>> No.15038892

>>15036542
Pekora must have some arnold neck muscles for carrying around all that gold.

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>>15037992
Needs a fruit/Pokémon to be shopped onto.

>> No.15038916

>>15038844
Look at how much she has milked her gachikois so far, their wallets are probably empty by now

>> No.15039080

>>15038283
Mori started to stream more as the numbers started to drop for everyone

>> No.15039095

>>15038844
Iroha hit 400k that stream, she's doing absurdly well too yes but don't let that distract you from how strong Chloe's milking has been

>> No.15039183

>>15038215
Mumei and Fauna need to get their shit together. Bae did. Fauna and Mumei have one sponsorship between them plus the con appearance. Fauna demonetizes her ASMR, the only VOD that will make anything.

Also birthdays really paid off for NijiEN.

>> No.15039204

>>15036725
I mean I get it but can you really blame them though? AI at that point was fucked over by the geniuses at Upd8, Gamebu got fucked by Unlimited, and their closest competitor at the time (.Live) got squashed by Sio and her gigantic ass. Even Hololive had to run and pander to the chinks to survive. They were literally, at some point in 2019-2020, the only legit game in town. Why wouldn't you want to flood the market to ensure that your brand becomes synonymous with vtubers? Who in their right mind could have predicted that some dumb chink and his bat-soup was going to kickstart a global pandemic that would literally put a majority of the world's population under house arrest.

>> No.15039249

>>15035586
>Miko: forza
>Botan: halo infinite
Great selection from Xbox. Things they've had fun and has high engagement.

>> No.15039306

>>15038625
Elira is really inconsistent when it comes to SC, she's had some amazing months and some terrible months

>> No.15039378

>>15031947
Because Cover is winning and Nijiniggers can't accept that their time is gone. It's time for the young Yagoo dragon to rise up.

>> No.15039566

>>15036493
>16) Korone (Hololive) - 38,596 - Return stream
>17) Haruka (Nijisanji) - 25,019 - 3D debut

I'm pretty sure there was a Fubuki stream that took the gold on 16, the one that started 3 minutes before midnight.

>> No.15039574

>>15038215
which site do you get the Niji superchat data from? I want to track the individual girls' metrics for the coming month.

>> No.15039638

>>15039566
You're right!

>> No.15039707

>>15039183
Mumei is only just starting to recover from how hard she nerfed her SCs. She’s already breached the $1k mark on twice as many streams as last month. The real question is how many she’ll get on tonight’s zatsudan, which is partly dependent on whether her travel plans got scuttled. She’s either getting a bunch wishing her a safe trip or a bunch of pity SCs. At the same time, she’s also got a SC backlog from the Christmas karaoke and the watchalong collab she’s doing before, which should give extra time to send SCs. If that does end up being the case then she’ll have more opportunities to boost her SC revenue, at the cost of not having a return stream buff on the 28th.

>> No.15039780

So now that NijiENs new wave is a certified flop and massive failure, where does NijiEN go from here?

>> No.15039781
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I was curious about how many people really watched the NijiEN4's debut. I added the watchalong CCV at minutes xx.05 and xx.35 because that's when the debutants ended their stream and there's a noticeable increase in viewers. It then decreased again when the next debutant started their stream, so I think it's legit. Here's the result

Anyway, why do you think NijiEN insists to do debut watchalong? Niji's other branches don't do it, right. To train box-pushing?

Unless they bring Kuzuha or their other aces with an interpreter to pull their JP fans' attention, I still think it's stupid, though. New members should get all the attention they can.

My other wild ideas:
- To purposely reduce their CCV so they won't be nervous much
- So the ratio of their next stream and their debut stream would look better

>> No.15039785
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Kiara vs Vox

>> No.15039828

>>15039785
Vox will hit 4k but also he has overlap with ike
ike will be 2k

>> No.15039844

>>15039785
Not even a Nijikek but I'd be shocked if he doesn't beat shitbird

>> No.15039854

>>15038382
Chloe is matching the entire EN branch singlehanded with a -10 days disadvantage? What the hell?

>> No.15039902

>>15039854
let's just say that some members of that branch seriously hate money

>> No.15039937

>>15039854
She's a goddamn money succubus. Also, EN SC game just isn't the same for HoloEN ever since NijiEN debuted. Some of the gachikoi spend on NijiEN both for saviorfagging purposes and for greater 'bang for buck' (More attention due to less competition)

>> No.15039971

>>15039937
HoloEN is boring compared to NijiEN, except for my Mori. I love her.

>> No.15039999

>>15039971
dont use my oshi for your shitposts

>> No.15040045

>>15039937
from what i see so far from the SC charts, mori and kiara have their fans grabbed by the balls, so is the rest that need to step up their game

>> No.15040050

>>15038337
Thefuck?
Fauna could barely pay rent in Toronto, NY or Tokyo with her cut of her Dec SC.
Much less live a decent lifestyle in one of those cities. It's waaay less than what the "highly educated" earn there.

>> No.15040056

>>15032891
Why didn't they use their own vtubers

>> No.15040062

>>15039999
I'm not shitposting. I love Mori too. She's the only good HoloEN member.

>> No.15040098

>>15039902
How do people not know by now that 2 members go out of their way to not get SC and another one is completely indifferent to them

>> No.15040111

>>15040098
You mean Ina?

>> No.15040121

I am actually curious about Fubuki's numbers. It seems like every Magikarp shiney hunt stream she is inclining more and more hitting 40k peaks in the last few. If this keeps up is it possible she can break into even higher numbers. I know this isn't unprecedented for a stream like this to become an event stream where you must catch it just to witness history.

>> No.15040139

>>15040062
yeah sure, see you later after you drop her the second she gets another "yab"

>> No.15040150

>>15039902
It's still 11 girls vs 1 with a disadvantage and they are matched somehow.

>>15039937
>She's a goddamn money succubus
That she is. Did some gachi really move to Nijien ?

>> No.15040191

>>15040111
Gura she only does SC reading when she doesnt feel like gaming but just wants to chat but even then its barely a SC reading. Ina/Ame completely make no attempt to bait or real in gachikoi

>> No.15040250

>>15038215
NijiEN barely squeaks by HoloEN if you remove Mori and Kiara

HoloEN: $121,250
NijiEN: $121,438

>> No.15040251

>>15040111
Go out of their way to avoid: Ina, Ame (Ina with her stating not to SC her because she doesn't need it, Ame with her self-sabotage on SCs that seems to have started ever since that charity stream....)
Indifferent: Gura

>> No.15040262

>>15040150
Yes NijiEN has been slowly eroding and stealing Gachis from HoloEN. Keyword SLOWLY but it is happening just like how Niji stream CCV has been increasing SLOWLY but it is increasing.

>> No.15040287

>>15038215
Council makes the half the SCs that Myth does kek. It's funny that people get angry when they are called failures when they underperform so much.

>> No.15040344

>>15040050
I hope she doesn't live in those shit holes them. This totally explain why it took her 4 months to buy the ku100.

>> No.15040346

>>15040139
I've watched her since debut, I'm not going to drop her.

>> No.15040358

>>15039204
Nah the pandemic was a buff to both holo and niji, they both had a lot of clips going for them.
Also flooding the market was one of the worst things for several different reasons -
1. Lack of managers : Even holo has sometimes 4-5 talents per manager but they actually do their job and manage the talent's schedules + out of stream help, but biggest thing is that they prevent yabs wherever possible. Niji management being super hands off is what caused the Meiro yab, and it's very likely to be the reason that the livers with low views are not able to change their game (dunno if the 2view nijis even have managers desu).

2. Dilution of value : Same thing that happened back when Atari was at the peak of its dominance. In 2019, a "Nijisanji Liver" was for the most part, a guarantee for quality. If every single chuuba that they flooded the market with were superstars, even that would only get them to AKB48 level. And of course, since that was not the case, watching a chuuba with "Nijisanji" next to their name no longer meant anything.

3. Group identity : Big thing troubling the Nijis, which they are trying to rectify with NijiEN. The chuubas on the higher end managed to form collab groups among themselves like Chronoir, Gunkan etc. but these were more like indie groups since they very rarely collabed with other such groups. And again, no management, no one to teach the lower end chuubas this stuff, so they had to make do with what connections they could make themselves. This flood also fucked up integration, because obviously your existing talents are not going to get to know every single one of the 50 people they just became coworkers with. And so it just becomes this loosely connected indie type group, instead of a strong identity oriented group.

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>> No.15040493

>>15040150
>council doesnt get as much SC because they dont stream as much, with mumei and bae recently inclining
>Ame: lol
>Gura: only reads SC when she doesnt want to play games
>Ina: tells you to use it supporting the other girls or buying her merch/membership
Only Mori and Kiara dont do shit that debuff their SC gains as much

>> No.15040536

>>15040385
Go Anya!

>> No.15040632

>>15039781
I think the reason might be far simpler... the entire talent and management on the EN side seem to be experienced in twitch and not youtube.
Hence the watchalongs, because that's a common thing to do on twitch. CCV doesn't matter that much on twitch compared to bits and subs. Also explains why NijiEN Wave 1 and 2 got huge amounts of superchats and memberships in proportion to their viewership.
Their expertise will probably pay off once youtube becomes twitch lite with raids and stuff though.

>> No.15040701

>>15040150
>That she is. Did some gachi really move to Nijien ?

It might be completely circumstantial evidence.
The big difference maker was July, but a lot of things happened that time.
- Coco left and took some shared EN gachis with her
- Haachama disappeared too
- Ame ongoing burnout basically started this month
- YT implemented super thanks
- Niji OBSYDIA debut
- Niji Eden-gumi debut
- Pomu took a break for her operation
- Irys, then in August Council debut which split the HoloEN audience and SCers, then Council lost a lot of theirs

All of these influenced how the summer looked for SC, but also any one, or all of them had an impact on trends since.

>> No.15040714

well Ike is off to a bad start.
Vox is doing VR FNAF but doesnt look like it will reach 5k soon.

>> No.15040716

>>15039937
oh boy, gonna be interesting to see how that audience reacts to the girls' attention on Wave 4

>> No.15040899

>>15040358
Lets me say this, Ichikara never known how to probably manage a vtuber group. Their 1st generation wasn’t even mean to be real vtuber. They were only hired to advertise the app, Mito’s success was out of no where. And since they hit big without really doing anything but release a bunch of chuubas and lets them do whatever the fuck they want, they kept doing it. Because why fix it if it works. It’s not until Cover started to slap them in the face that they realized it’s no longer working.

>> No.15040964

>>15040121
Yes, Fubuki's numbers are big
Want to look them up exactly but it was around
> highest CCV for Dec, despite the 5-6k daytime streams
>~15 million vod views for the fishing streams alone, only 2nd to Hololive main channel for the month
> ~3 million watch hours, only competition to Amorandth
> over 100 hours played on stream of fishing
> 57k$ in SC since the event started

>> No.15040985

>>15040714
>VR FNAF
whats the point of burning all your possible buffs so early? he'll have nothing left in a week

>> No.15041025

>>15040985
so they can spam darksouls and kill their ccv with episodic conent obviously

>> No.15041127

>>15040899
>t’s not until Cover started to slap them in the face that they realized it’s no longer working.
i mean, they debuted 15 talents on the EN region alone so i wouldnt be sure of that.

>> No.15041193

>>15040964
My knees won't be able to handle it if she still doesn't get a Magikarp into January. I know for sure when she finds it she will be getting a trending tag on twitter as well.

>> No.15041353

>>15041193
Whenever she catches it I just hope it's during JP hours so she gets the superchat explosion

>> No.15041409

>>15041127
The jp side at least had to reconsider their strategy, otherwise there would be more than just 1 new group this year.

>> No.15041416
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>> No.15041449

>>15041193
Even after that she is still planning to catch a shiny Feebas, the only thing holding her back is the permission ending or people getting bored.

>> No.15041466

>>15040358
>2. Dilution of value
>3. Group identity
This two really sticks out to me. I mean, not just here, but in a lot of places that discuss vtubers, the perception that "getting into Hololive is is like winning the lottery" is becoming a common sentiment which is not the case for Nijisanji or VShoujo. There's also one other point that can be added there that is, I think, another reason why Hololive draws quite a lot more than competitors, even if its just in terms of perception. The supposed end goal for most of the girls (even the ones that really didn't start out with it) which is the "idol dream". Nijisanji and VShoujo are basically like watching anime streamers with episodic content. Hololive is like watching an anime with story arcs, fillers, and ultimately an end goal which is what hooks most of the people who watch them. Or at least that's the perception that's prevalent.

>> No.15041488

>>15038215
do you only have EN or did you collect data for both Nijis and Holos?

>> No.15041491

>>15041193
I hope that she encounter shiny and stall so that everyone tabbed in at the day niji are having tourney.

>> No.15041568

>>15041488
There's another anon who posts running totals for December, only the top earners though

>> No.15041573

>>15040251
you say all this like there arent JPs who dont care about SCs
the only EN who isnt comparable is Ina since shes already got all the money she'll ever need but even then you have people like Noel who dont need a cent of their hololive money with over $1m in SCs

>> No.15041844

>>15041568
hm searching for "total sc" in warosu gives me the nijicope list and "monthly sc" also didn't seem to find it.
it will be a interesting month whats with holox having some strong contenders but also Nenechi making bank. after quickly adding all her streams for this month i got 97.931$ which would mean that she alone got more than council+hope

>> No.15041848

>>15039781
>To train box-pushing?
It's their idea of box-pushing. They are trying to direct an audience of an already existing talents to the new wave to make people watch everybody like Hololive. EN branch is trying to box-push quite aggressively and they have some success with it.

>> No.15041903

>>15039183
I wouldn't worry about worry about Mumei. She flip flops with Kronii as the most popular Council member and if you already have the numbers then its easier to make a move that makes them want to send in SCs.

Bae's recent incline is more of having her scheduling actually paying off. We all thought she would flop like Anya by streaming in JP hours, but she somehow managed to secure a lot of donors in that timeslot. It's definitely one of those long term strategies that we didn't think would be effective yet Rat's hard work paid off in the literal sense.

>> No.15042187

>>15041844
December superchats so far
>Chloe - $197,494
>Iroha - $144,409
>Laplus - $116,636
>Pekora - $94,381
>Rushia - $91,133
>Koyori - $83,216
>Nene - $76,488
>Hayato - $66,371
>Ayame - $59,919
>Flare - $57,920
>Lui - $53,665
>Lamy - $53,141
>Fubuki - $49,881
>Shion - $49,688
>Mori - $45,762
>Kanata - $44,322
>kson - $33,595
>Mishiro - $30,540
That's yesterday's so yeah adding today's $21k for Nenechi that's accurate

>> No.15042333

>>15041903
>Bae's recent incline
How did she even manage to get Pekora on her channel? Or is it that other Holomems don't even actually have the balls to ask her in the first place?

>> No.15042379

>>15041848
>nijien at box-pushing
no they are not, or at least they failing to pass on the message. You ask their fanbase how youre supposed to keep up with so many vtubers getting released every 2-3 months, they respond that you're not supposed to.

>> No.15042474

>>15042333
It's definetly the later

>> No.15042497

>>15041903
Mumei’s only real problem at this point is that she still takes “_____ fund” SC too seriously and discourages those because she doesn’t want to be obligated to spend on whatever _____ is supposed to be. She had been nerfing her SCs pretty hard, but now she does them at the end of her archived solo streams, without disabling SCs until the end. It’s just that she nerfed SCs so hard it’s going to take a while to climb back up, especially when membership comes with that nightmare emote.
With Bae, she was smart enough to seize the KR crowd that Kronii and Ina left unattended.

>> No.15042508

>>15042333
She probably scheduled it way back when everyone was into hologroups

>> No.15042536

>>15036418
Hololive has solidified its place in the scene for a good 3+ years now but the face of the company has turned over a lot in that time
>Sora (pre-gen1 isnt really "hololive" but spurred its existence)
>Fubuki
>Choco if you count the ASMR arc
>Aqua
>Coco
>Korone
>Pekora
>Gura
>Pekora again
the bunny is the only one to really sustain for multiple years, every other holo either burned out or flew too close to the chink sun
compare that to niji which is just
>Mito
>Kuzuha
and maybe the Disney comp is right - they have a new princess every couple of years instead of one big face like Ai

>> No.15042560

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UTwzLCQ4g0

Damn the anycolor office is so huge
They definitely make a fuckton of money

>> No.15042648

>>15042187
Rushia dethroned

>> No.15042651

>>15042333
>Holomems don't even actually have the balls to ask her in the first place
This is one reason. Only Kiara has been proactive in pursuing collabs. Not being comfortable with talking in Japanese is also another big factor, but honestly the fans don't care as much as the girls think.

The other reason on Pekora's side is how her impromptu vc with Sana and Bae actually left a big impact on Peko. Bae actually had the balls to prank Pekora during that time and it was pretty effective. Peko has always talked about wanting people who would do that type of shit to her instead of being afraid of her due to seniority status. Final reason could be because of HoloRodents. Pekora has been wanting to branch out in terms of collab and this gives her a good reason to do it.

>> No.15042685

>>15042379
Yep, telling someone that "You should only watch the one's you like" is the fucking kryptonite to box-pushing and I laugh at people who say it like its some magical advice. Its the same issue with comics and manga. Sure you can tell someone that they can just stick to a specific author or run for that particular title but that inadvertently tells the guy you're talking to that shit is too convoluted to get invested in. Compare that to manga where you can tell the guy a title and they can just go read chapter 1. Once someone falls into the hole, you really don't need to tell that guy shit. All the collabs and recurring interactions are enough to familiarize them to the rest of the cast until the next thing you know, you'r basically starting to follow multiple holos now.

>> No.15042806

>>15042560
>3 months ago
>1 million views
How's the ccv for nijiID the past months?

>> No.15042885

>>15042560
It's cheap there in ID. It's not really impressive.

>> No.15042929

>>15041466
> Mori wanted to bring her favorite genre of music to new audiences, and even though she was unsure of this new path, eventually found confidence in it. Even her songs tell her story.
> Ina wanted to find friends to chill with and bonded with everyone. Next arc : "I want to hug you guys for real"
> Amelia also wanted to find friends and improve the technical aspect of her craft, started so many trends that her senpais followed, making her a "shining newbie".
> Gura wanted to leave her old life behind and find friends while shooting the shit with her chat and occasionally singing or gaming. Currently the queen of VTubing, and has the grapple with all that entails.
> Kiara had to deal with the most adversity, separate from her friend for the good of both of them, and overcome all her fears in order to become an idol.
Dang, it's true. And all that was over the course of one year.
Meanwhile it's been just 7 months since NijiEN started and there's already more members than HoloEN, and only their own individual fans know about their hopes and dreams, if they even have them...

>> No.15042970

>>15042885
It's the office they have in tokyo

>> No.15043050

>>15041466
I think in addition to this, Hololive already had one event akin to a "season finale" - Coco Graduation. Which was an event of epic proportions the likes of which may never be seen again.
So Holo audience has been kinda primed to expect a poignant ending for everyone they're following, and to enjoy the path in the meantime.

I don't watch Niji so idk how much of an impact Lulu/Gibara graduating had, so if there are any nijifriends here who could shed light on it, would be much appreciated.

>> No.15043055

>>15042187
still sucks that playboard missed so much of her return stream. else she would have been in 100k already

>> No.15043073

>>15042929
Serious question for anyone who watches NijiEN. Do they have a similar story arc, filler, set up like Hololive. I mean, people tend to call them Hololive-lite (sometimes VShoujo-lite) so I'm curious if they have anything that gets their individual fans invested. Like I'm sure Pomu has something beyond getting away from her 9-5 job.

>> No.15043084

>>15043050
Lulu was forced out due to harassment while Gibara graduated cause she got abandoned.

>> No.15043112

>>15042333
remember Marine talking about how hard it is to get Pekora to agree to a collab. as a true numberfag she wants the collabs to be a big thing and bring numbers

>> No.15043127

>>15043084
I dont see how this answers his question when he specifically asked about the impact of their graduation, not the cause

>> No.15043192

>>15042929
>Finana, Elira, Petra, and Reimu are just there to have fun.
>Millie wants and needs money.
>Enna wanted a larger audience with more infrastructure to get her music out there.
>Selen wants BFE
>Rosemi wants to become a pro streamer and the Greatest Hokage
>Nina and Pomu are the most important they are both OL hags who want to turn Niji EN into a premier VN company in the west and set of Nijisanjification Pomu does it by working her but off to put out interesting content and Nina does it by on and behind the scenes supporting Unity like crazy

>> No.15043196

>>15042536
I do agree with your primary sentiment, but I think Holo is more complex then that. Hololive is so much more diverse then they were back when Sora or Fubuki was the top dogs. Now you basically have 3 different faces, imo. One is the biggest most "well known", another is the biggest music talent and one is the biggest streamer. Pekora only fills one of those roles, Gura only fills one and the music part is a contest between Calli and Suisei.

Niji however it does really feel that the king rules supreme, this might however be my bias, but it feels like he carries a lot nowdays.

>> No.15043220

>>15042648
This will be the 19th month in a row Rushia has gotten over $100k, yes Chloe is doing incredibly well but she needs to have insane consistency to even get anywhere near Rushia

>> No.15043236

>>15043050
In niji's case something at Coco's level could only happen if Mito or Kuzuha graduated
For better or worse nijisanji is about 多様性, the livers all have their own fanbase and they don't try to sell the company as a whole, even Ange or Kanae wouldn't have that much impact if they graduated
Mito and Kuzuha are definitely the glu holding everything together though, though personally I think Mito's graduating would have a bigger impact since in a lot of way she made nijisanji what it is even if Kuzuha is more popular now

>> No.15043245

>>15042685
thanks now I can't get the image of Shueisha box pushing shounen manga off my head

>> No.15043261
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>>15038215
>>15039937
>compiled this just now
At which months did nijiEN debut occur?

>> No.15043297

>>15043050
As someone who casually followed Lulu, I'd be lying if I said that I didn't get jealous when comparing her sendoff to Coco's. Especially knowing the reason why she left Nijisanji. Supposedly, she was unhappy that she had to keep pausing her streaming by directives of Anykara while they were dealing with her stalker problem. I mean, that's great and all, and kudos to Nijisanji for trying to help, but her sendoff and the sour note that she left on (basically saying the above) just felt so anticlimactic to me. Coco ultimately became a legend, regardless of what you think about her now. Lulu, and even moreso Gibara, felt like they just left...

>> No.15043334

>>15043261
May.

>> No.15043336

>>15043127
Well, if Nijisanji had a "season finale," then that would be the termination of their 50+ talents. It's not really a big news for us but for the nips it dealt a huge damage for their reputation. The thing is, it's still not over yet.

>> No.15043359
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Here are some numbers.
Orca's IQ.

>> No.15043376

>>15042379
kek, even holofans give out this exact same advise. Just with one difference -

For Nijisanji fans, the advise is given at the start of their journey, while they're overwhelmed wondering who to watch.
For Hololive fans, the advise is given to those who complain about having to ruin their sleep schedule to keep up with all of their favorites.

Only one of these has become a fan at the point the advice is given.

>> No.15043392

>>15043334
the rest?

>> No.15043422

>>15043196
I mean, from /#/s perspective, Kuzuha declining numbers-wise was easily felt here at least.

>> No.15043431

>>15043334
But they didn't get superchats until June
>>15043392
July and October

>> No.15043446

>>15043297
Well, yes, both of their announcements were very last minute.
Gibara's was during the final stream, but to be honest anyone who watched her could say her heart wasn't in it for half a year at that point.
Lulu's was only a few days prior and, while people were already preparing for Coco's graduation.

>> No.15043457

>>15033259
>Full 3D EN collab can't break 30k
ENbros...It's over...

>> No.15043496
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>11pm JST/ 10pm SEA
>8k views
>eu primetime/na time
>only 3.7k
????????????

>> No.15043502

>>15043196
hololive had other princesses who ascended to the top but never actually took it over a time like Marine and Miko
niji used to have some of these in Himawari, Shiina, etc but the rise of Kuzuha and Kanae really threw them into a deep recline

>> No.15043532

>>15043496
EU hours suck if your name isnt ina, this was already discussed before

>> No.15043538

>>15043359
She said she was measured at 141 when she was a kid with a real mensa test
Also she said adults thought she suffered from psychopathy

>> No.15043558

>>15043376
Nah, not really. If people ask to recommend which Holos to see first, the answer would be somewhere among Korone, Fubuki, and Coco.
Nijisanji suffers the phenomenon called decision avoidance due to the fact of just their sheer size and that they really don't have any outstanding talents amongst them.

>> No.15043567

>>15043446
Gibara also announced it beforehand in a members stream which obviously leaked, this whole board knew she was going before she officially told the general public

>> No.15043581

>>15043261
>Mori's lowest month on record is higher than IRyS, Sana, Bae, Fauna and Mumei's highest months

>> No.15043594

>>15043567
Kuzuha leaked it first in a zatsudan stream

>> No.15043609

>>15043336
Eh, wasn't it more of a fringe part of the fan base that might feel that their reputation is tarnished? I doubt anyone watching Kuzuha is mad about the termination of the vr hostess club. It might come of as something "big" due to the number of people fired, but it also feels like a nothing burger in the big scheme of things.

>> No.15043610

>>15043457
I mean, the collab did have more than 30 viewers across all three POVs. If you want to actually bait correctly, let me help you, ESLchama.

>Kiara
>Sana
>failing to achieve a 10K+ CCV
>on an collab event featuring all of HoloEN.
ENbros...It's over...

>> No.15043615

>15043376
not even worth the (You)

>> No.15043648

>>15043594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DvCRsAYSPE

By the way she is still streaming, though she isn't as succesful as misumi

>> No.15043668

>>15043192
Yeah... this is what I'm saying. There are no storyarcs in NijiEN. Maybe it's because most of them were somewhat succesful Indies already that it feels like you've already seen the finished product.

>> No.15043689

>>15043581
Truly Council is a failure. Kronii is only good thing that shit gen has, too bad she doesn't care.

>> No.15043710

>>15043236
>Mito and Kuzuha are definitely the glue holding everything together though
fanbase wise, maybe.
But by all accounts it's Kanae of the livers. In how he brought Gamers and other groups together and brought up some of the other livers to their full potential. We wouldn't have today's Kuzuha if Kanae hadn't taken him in.
Any one of he 3 could have a huge, everyone comes to say goodbye graduation i guess.

>> No.15043713

>>15043558
hmmm, has any Nijifan just told someone to straight up try watching Kuzuha/Mito/Pomu to overcome the decision avoidance? Would that even be effective?

>> No.15043764

>>15043609
>it also feels like a nothing burger in the big scheme of things
The news is big enough it headlined on multiple major news portals such as YahooJP for a couple of weeks and it seems to be not over yet if the rumors are to be believed.

>> No.15043770

I just woke up and saw that haachama's Vod views are about as much as nene's
What gives?

>> No.15043800

>>15043422
Oh yea, from /#/s perspective he's even more lonely. He was the only one except lolicon-ayame who could contest medals without anything special going on. And Toya can only really do it with rarity and events.

>> No.15043832

>>15043609
I'll be honest, the only reason I know of Yumenographia is because Neko Mikuri had a clip of Ange acting all ojisan over them with an explanation of what they were.

>> No.15043836

>>15043764
>seems to be not over yet
what you mean? didnt the whole thing get cut already?

>> No.15043904

>>15043532
Ina has a very loyal audience and even though I enjoy her streams I'm not entirely sure why. One of my hypotheses is that Ina drawing streams, require you to have the tab up front so you can see the process, while a lot of other streams you can put it as a background tab and listen and just pop in when something interesting is happening.

>> No.15043907

>>15043770
Haachama got La Creatividad.

>> No.15043909

>>15043770
thumbnail. with the case of 'face reveal' narratives, it was bound to get clicks

>> No.15043972

>>15043496
nijiSEAnji

>> No.15044005

>>15043770
haachama is a schizo with random schedule. A lot of fans miss the lives and so have to catch the vod later instead

>> No.15044043

>>15043770
She streams at 2AM so people in NA, JP and AU catch the vod later.

She basically has the EN style international audience.

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