/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

40k watching shishilamy

Alright I'll recycle my question from last thread, Since anons are talking about the viability of Chloe surpassing Pekora, how is Chloe's streaming skills in her gameplays? Is it comparable to Pekora's method of playing fast and playing for content?

>>14113183
We'll see that better with her Undertale G route

>>14113170
sasuga

>>14113183
Laplus is more similar to Pekora in terms of game streaming skill.

>>14113183
So far Chloe hasn't really shown amazing skill in anything. She's just very good at planning her content and streaming a lot. Her entire appeal is that she's a cute clumsy brat but we'll see how long that can keep people watching.

>>14113170
>adding together numbers in a collab for gen 5
>wow their numbers are good amazing
>adding together numbers in a collab for nijiEN
>cope you had to add their numbers together for good numbers nijikek hahaha
Not saying there's double standards, but...

>>14113374
20k for each in a split POV is good no matter how you cut it.

>>14113374
holy rent free

>>14113374
They have 19k and 21k each that pretty good.

>14113374
Retard 20k each in this timeslot is good enough
No one is actually adding them besides out of convenience

>>14113374
Anon...
It's the fact that, until recently, added together they could barely break the 7k ceiling. It looks like they MIGHT be starting to break that, but it was a very real thing for quite a bit.

NijiEN only charted during their debuts.
Their numbers outside of debut performs as well as 2views.

Mumei...

>>14113536
Noomberfag you don't know what a real 2view is like.

>>14113591
She already finished elite four. Now, she is just want to complete pokedex and start a breeding program

>>14113653
MAX IV BREEDING AUTISM LETS GO.
Mumei was lamenting the lack of wonder trade and thus the higher difficulty in getting a max IV slave for breeding.

>>14113374
>4chan is one person
Mind you, the argument is "look at those losers needing pool up their CCV to compete", which isn't a double standard.

>>14113756
I wonder how many hacked dittos she would get if it was live right now.

>Subaru started with her usual 20k+
>No changes in ShishiLamy viewership

>>14113653
She finished elite four today and didn't spike to 10k fucking kek

>>14113886
20k is the new 10k??

>>14113886
Seems like the largest portion of the Hololive fanbase will watch their favorites and only their favorites. They won't sit and watch whatevers on at the time. Probably means the concerns about overlaps are overrated, especially after last night when Hololive had 5 concurrent 30k+ streams going

Holomembers all sang songs, but there are ones where you can feel that they really "own" them after singing it

Suisei had Ghost
Ayame had Goodbye Sengen
Marine had ahoy
Towa had Error
Gura had Ride on time
Kronii had young and beautiful

I feel like Chloe kinda cemented herself as the truly popular member of her gen after singing "not enough" with her voice and everyone finally acknowledged it

Has sora finally found her soulmate? I never seen her laugh this much with other holo members, always very distant with the senpai aura.

>>14114072
I wonder if there's still any place for upcoming ID3 there

>>14113972
Ssshhhhh... Don't let the rot take you over

>>14113972
Please no, that's just going to encourage numberrot.
20k is already a monumental achievement in gaming streams, would put you top 100 worldwide on Twitch for average viewers (which these girls can hold if you don't include SC readings which obviously drop the average)

>>14113591
jesus christ en look like midgets compared to jp

>>14113898

Yeah, kinda disappointing honestly. Even Luna got 12k against them and Cynthia and that was a normal playthrough as well

I hate how there's no legitimate way to voice out criticisms for Council when there is a lot. Everything negative you say will be deemed as "harassment" outside of 4chan. There's too much cuddling for Council, and unless they change, I'm not sure if HoloEN can survive.

>>14113972
well there was 20 of them yesterday, 18 from holo

>>14114153
Iofi but she is half dead most of the time.

>>14114132
Noel and Shaka beach, Ame and Okami blues

>>14113170
Are they racing or something?

>>14113886
Holy shit, HoloX bringing new audience unlike council

>>14114153
Nope, it's still Azki.

>>14113591
Disgusting.

>>14114153
Please, Sora definitely know IRyS before she become IRyS

>>14114132
Its Never Enough numbers https://youtu.be/ibon2ZhhqdA

>>14114072
>Probably means the concerns about overlaps are overrated
Well for the one's who streams constantly and maintain their fanbase sure. But it would be a different case for those who are taking breaks. We can't see the effect just yet.

>>14114153
IRyS is Sora's sex slave after all

>>14114260
Nah, just playing together like Okayu and Subaru. They might duel at some point so expect the numbers to bump up whenever that happens.

>>14114227
asking for criticism or attacking hugboxes is cringe. criticism is almost always shit and even when right has the disadvantage of being easily taken the wrong way. the only ways people will improve is self determination, vicarious learning or positive demand

>>14114383
Holo JP is on fire

>>14114227
What can you do about it? Ever since the whole Aloe stuff happened, Cover is doubling down on real harassment, this causes the fans to become more uptight with criticisms as well. If you say one bad thing, just a tiny one, you will be shut down immediately, on Twitter, on Reddit and even on YT.

>>14113348
She sings better than Gura and Suisei already

>>14114199
Very disappointing. Specifically, because she was around the same numbers with Fauna for a while. Had a spike, then went back to less than optimal numbers.

>>14114227
Coddle culture is strong with this gen and it's really killing their momentum. Many talked shit about Sana's numbers while playing Pokemon. Mumei has no reason to be having these numbers, when she's doing a normal playthrough and reached one of the most expected battles of the game.

>>14114383
imagine paying thousands of dollars to twitch streamers to end up being mogged by 2d waifus

>>14114383
Man.. I know EN mostly doing fine but seeing JPs easily get these number while overlapping.. And not on their primetime as well

>>14114411
And who will give them that? The management doesn't, the Myths definitely don't and the fans don't as well. And that's why you see HoloEN being the shell that it is.

>>14114199
Pokemon is a debuff game for EN, just like any other JRPG

>>14114153
>laugh this much with other holo members
isnt that just their culture? seniority still strong in Japan

>>14114494
Sana even went as far as "Teehee fuck you". She doesn't care and that's why she has the lowest number. I can fucking hope she will drop as low as 2 digits so that big head of her can teehee to being out of Hololive.

>>14114541
Maybe is like Council is doing fine as they are and this shit is all in you guys.

>>14114573
>everything that jps play and get big number is debuff for EN because EN got small number

>>14114507
Any Twitch streamers can easily beat HoloEN numbers.

>>14114227
People (or more likely, person) whining about Council gets old. Mainly because it's not out of an actual interest in numbers but always "wow they failed what a mistake" type stuff that's more appropriate for other threads. If you have an interesting observation feel free to share it.

>>14114665
talking about jp retard

>>14114624
Sana why are you like this?

>>14114624
Kek, Council is declining faster than you can say "Grandma's here" and you think they are fine?

>>14114494
>Mumei has no reason to be having these numbers, when she's doing a normal playthrough and reached one of the most expected battles of the game.
Damn I just realized Mumei will be fighting the E4 this stream and is still below 6k. That is really bad. Council absolutely need to get their finger out, they've been given way too much slack. At this point it might be even arguable that Council are actually harming Covers penetration of the EN market than helping it. If I was an exec or investor of Cover I'd be pissed.

>>14114132
Sora with Solar System Disco and Alien
Azki with Inochi
Calli with RIP
Okayu with Flos
Mion with that Kiminonawa song

>>14114686
Aren't there any big JP twitch streamers?

>>14114541
not you or the fans. its a retarded phenomenon that people who enjoy a particular subject think they are somehow experts on it.

>>14114615
>AHHHH She's not a noomberfag! HELP ME CHLOE

>>14114494
You bitching about Mumei on /vt/ isn't going to improve her numbers, nor will refraining from doing so.

>>14114752
fps ones, like shaka and stylishnoob but top tier holos mogs them hard

>>14114752
Jun, Shaka and some others

>>14114752
There's only like Jun, Shaka and stylish. But that's Kuzuha's competition, there's no competition for female streamers in Japan for Hololive.

>>14114573
Nah
EN2 can't capture their audience long enough to follow a game series. They don't have good schedules. They don't work with each other for viewership retention. They can't even successfully advertise their streams.

>>14114687
Well, they are a mistake. I could say all of ENverse is a mistake as well seeing vtuber is just a fad. If only JP companies could see further than "oh wow, a bunch of foreigners like our stuff, that means we can grow outside" instead of "wow, funny anime girls play games, let's throw them some bones but we will not care since their attention span is short"

>>14114573
>EN got mogged in another game so it's a "debuff" for them
Yeah I think I've cracked the code, everything is a debuff for Council because nobody wants to fucking watch them.

>>14114738
Her spike in viewers was during the E4 battle. After she was done, her numbers dropped.

>>14114687
You're crazy if you that's only one person that has problem with Council.

>>14114838
>>14114903
Imagine being this new, JRPGs being a debuff for EN have been known for a long time now in this thread

>>14114738
That won't change because even the management gives too much leeway to the talents. I would hope they can become a little bit more ruthless. If any member quits, let them. If they try to cancel management, just give the receipts that they fail at their job so they are let go. This is a business, not your fucking team meeting.

>>14114842
IRySsoDark

>>14114752
https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/archives-ranking/twitch?end_date=2021-12-05&start_date=2021-11-29

>>14114903
Here's a better question, what ISN'T a debuff game for Council?

>>14114903
Yall keep shitposting about Council but you guys don't realize that there barely any western female streamers that get higher ccv. The Council are all top tier female streamers.

>>14114872
Vtubers are cheap to make, they already made millions on the EN branch, there is no mistake. A lot of things are just a fad but if you make money off it you won.

>>14114494
>Mumei has no reason to be having these numbers, when she's doing a normal playthrough and reached one of the most expected battles of the game.
I don't think she likes playing Pokemon at all in terms of fighting. If Mumei can skip any fight and just start breeding, she will do that

>>14114952
Pokemon is not just another "JRPG" it's one of the most popular games in the world and is widely watched by english speaking audiences. Lumping it together with Fire Emblem and Ryza is beyond retarded.

>>14114842
IRyS turn off your stars crown thingy..

>>14114788
Bitching about this anywhere else will fall in deaf's ears anyway. The fans coddle them too much.

>>14114996
Minecraft

>>14114872
>ENverse is a mistake!
>Vtuber is just a fad!

>Cons full
>Merchs sells out
>An attendance of 194k viewers on an outfit reveal
>Myth earned $3.5M in SCs for the past year

>>14115009
Mumei wants to breed and shiny hunt.
She's trying to speed run getting the national dex right now.

>>14115024
she said she cant or her avatar will look weird

>>14115056
Yeah all Myths, where's council? And all shit you just mentioned, JPs top that

>>14115023
>t. sales matter when it comes to viewership
Actually retarded, no one watches JRPGs in the West because they're either boring or people would prefer to play it themselves, Tales of Arise sold as much in the West as in Japan but no one even watches EN streams for it

>>14115056
That's great. So why aren't any of these people actually watching their streams?

>>14115001
Dude, go on Twitch, there are a bunch of midtier streamers with higher numbers than Council.

>>14115103
I don't think JP has topped 194k yet for an outfit reveal.

The sheer amount of samefagging and numberrot in the thread...
It's like the very ideas of context and understanding have left the premesis in favor of shitposting and schizoposting.

>>14113348
Chloe already reached plateau. She'll hit 700k by Feb. but it's a slow climb to 1M, She can outsubs peko but it's too long to be relevant.

>>14114937
I don't think it's one, but I think that one is responsible for 90% of the whining and if they fucked off people would take Council discussion more seriously. It's like the Fauna schizo that finally left, I got accused of being him for offering a very mild criticism of something Fauna did because he was shitting up the thread so much it made everyone reflectively distrust anyone that even mentioned her.

>>14114952
Imagine lumping POKEMON with JRPGs. Stop being delusional and accept that they are underperforming. We know she can pull higher numbers than this, but it's never been this low. They have "good" numbers, but that's more like "okay" numbers.

>>14115005
Well, that won't be long anyway. Plus, all the big money makers are from Myth so at least we can say that HoloEN slipping is not too far in the future.

>>14115142
Still Myth...

>>14115128
They are

>>14115103
the last cons was Council con, retard

>>14115128
Don't let your rot dig in deeper. Their numbers is already good enough. Are you telling me they should get 10k every time?

>>14115148
(You)

>>14115162
If Council had worked harder and been more serious, they would never have such haters.

>>14115113
There are 35k people watching Pokemon on Twitch right this very second which places it within the top 20 most watched games.

>>14114977
Matsuri said that the cover let their talents has free reign over what they are doing. Mane-chans can only advise or lecture them and tell them what not to do according to guide book. It's totally up to them to selfsabotage or putting in efforts. Mane has no power over them except when they do about to do yabs thing. Their own incline and recline is on each one of them.

>>14115129
Streamers not vtubers. There's only 3 vtubers in Vshoujo that can beat Sanas numbers and maybe 1-2 outside of it. Also random Mexican and Chinese vtubers with but those don't really count as people.

>>14115246
Let's be honest, they'd still have haters regardless of what they did.

>>14115157
I say Early to Mid January. Depends what else she has under her fin.

I think HoloJP hot streak caused some incurable number rot. When it things cool down around Jan we'll start to see talk about vtubing as a whole dying again until the same shit repeats itself in 2022.

>>14115162
Fallenshadow was proved right about everything though?

>>14115217
And that con is still midget, unknown tier con. The numbers can still be replicated, surpassed even if there was any JP members there. It's the Hololive brand, not Council brand. Council doesn't bring anyone new.

>>14114470
Anon, no need to shitpost so blatantly, everybody heard her singing.

>>14115128
Clipfags are the predominant watchers of EN. They vastly outnumber the the amount of people that can tune in during those few primetime burger hours, also timezones are and always have been a thing for EN, the issue is minimal in JP due to well, only being in one timezone.

>>14115246
Myth that work hard still have people who hate them. To this day Kiara is still probably the most hated EN on this board. People will hate for anything.

>>14115356
The logic that's having a global audience is a debuff still baffles me.

1 year anniversary...

>>14115162
You're truly delusional, it's probably 5+ people shitting on council. Hell 'Fayna schizo' wasn't even a single person either.

https://vtubereview.wordpress.com/2021/12/04/tokino-sora-speaks-about-5-years-of-broadening-experiences-as-a-vtuber/
Sora is a unity fag as well

>>14115221
>Are you telling me they should get 10k every time?
Yes? EN was supposed to be this huge untapped market that was thirsting for Hololive content, hence the explosive initial growth of Myth. It seems very strange for all that hype to grind to a complete halt even as the JP Hololive branch continues to grow even faster. Where are all the EN fans? Why are they not watching streams? There are only 11 EN Holos to pick from and NONE of them can get the viewership of the top JPs and the majority of them are 5-8k streamers which places them middle of the pack at best.

Disappointing considering a year ago ENfags were talking about how EN is the future of Hololive and at the moment it looks like EN amounted to a wet fart

>>14115294
Myth's success brought them lots of fans and haters. I think that criticizing Council when it comes to numbers isn't hating. They are capable of being better, but their appeal has worn off. I hope their numbers can continue to grow, but it's going to be tough work for them.

>>14115271
That's what's causing Council to fall, or any HoloEN members really. HoloJP thrives because of the hardworking Japanese culture. They know they have to work hard to succeed. HoloEN is filled with that lazy Western mentality that everyone is winning so there's no need to try.

>>14115163
Insisting that Pokemon isn't a debuff for EN is just weird, anon
Mumei's November median is 9k yet she can't even get that this stream
Kiara's last two Pokemon streams peaked at 4k even though her November median is 6k
It's absolutely a debuff outside of three streams, Mori's first and final streams and Gura's first stream

>>14115323
No? I don't know what her exact gripe was but she is back to following Fauna again and showing up in her member streams. Fallenshadow has serious mental health and self-esteem issues and seeing her friend get famous and her left behind did not do her emotional state any favors.

>>14115334
>midget con
>NYC
>Many waited in line to see Council
>A consulate of Japan collabing and came to take a photo with their cardbox pics

>>14115221
Yes? Anything below 10k is laughable.

>>14115103
the last cons was Council con, retard and it was full. Council dont have official merch yet unlike Myth. The only thing i agree with you is SC

>>14115334
>Unknown tier
>Anime NYC
>50k+ attendance, had lineups SPECIFICALLY for Hololive
Okay buddy, here's your (you), you're trying too hard

>>14115334
Holy shit you're a retard.
It's the second largest anime con in the US.
53k attendants this year.
Only one bigger is anime expo.

>>14115294
Possibly, doesn't matter though since it's obvious all of Councils problems are self inflicted and could have been avoided if they had the hunger to actually make it to the top like Chloe does.

>>14115334
>midget con
>????

>>14115419
>If it doesn't make the number under the stream bigger, it's a debuff
- /#/ logic.

>14115446
Now you're either just shitposting or numberrot had reached terminal levels

>>14115334
and you ask why council discussion is shit around here when you have retards literally going out of thier way to lie to downplay anything positive said about council

>>14115463
>HoloEN is filled with that lazy Western mentality that everyone is winning so there's no need to try
Exactly, Mori is a prime example of this with how incredibly lazy she is. Probably THE laziest Holo in existence

>>14115221
>numberrot
Mind you that 10k is mid tier for a Holo. Getting numbers below that, for EN, is not a good look.

>>14115469
I mean the anon that people keep saying was Fallenshadow, the one that hates the fuck out of Fauna because she is a failure.

>>14115446
CCVtards, everyone.

>>14115465
You mentioned two of the best streamers EN has to offer. Come on, anon, don't be weird with trying to add MYTH into a Council discussion.

>>14115381
>Kiara Kiara Kiara
The 15 daily Chimkin threads are gone. You can shut the fuck up now, KFPeasant.

>>14115446
What are you gonna, cry about it? Shit happens. Vtuber did not stay as popular as it was late 2020 in the west. People checked them out but a lot lost interest seeing as they're really just conventional streamers with anime avatars. If they weren't the type to watch streamers normally no amount of anime-fying it can maintain interest longterm.

>>14115446
Catering to EN market is the biggest mistake that Cover has done. All that money for models and outfits can be used to invest in the JP market. Like gen 6 now could be gen 7, more 3Ds, more outfits for JP members, etc. And if they feel like it, they can throw some bones to keep EN viewers interested but no more than that.

>>14115334
That con was insane, but the funny part was when Myth did a cameo and the audience fucking exploded
https://youtu.be/ry_Z6BqLcTU?t=1250

>>14115446
>t.CCVschizo
CCV has never been important retard, EN's main strengths were always in every other metric. Just because they also mogged JP in CCV last year before Susan nerfed them doesn't mean CCV is suddenly important now that your precious JPs are winning lmao

>>14115463
Yes, hardworking Ayame slways twets about her hard work!

>>14115598
>B-But the VOD views!!!
Here comes the copium. Suiseis Phony is about to hit 2 million views, has Moris Useewa hit 1 mil yet?

>>14115419
I think you should've figured out by now that there are quite a number of people in these threads that are just here to find stuff to back up their preconceived notions and don't actually care about numbers. See >>14115616
and >>14115567

>>14115597
That was a joke, people did not think it was actually her.

>>14115605
What? I'm just saying that outside of those three streams, Pokemon usually gets lower than median numbers for EN, how is that not a debuff?

>>14115419
It's not a debuff for subs and total views on VODs, but you HAVE fo understand this. holoJP and NijiJP basically are the kings of gaming streams. Outside of Jun, and a few othe names that elude me, NO other streamers can compete against HoloJP, v-tubing OR IRL streamers. Consider that, v-tubing has grown on Japan that it is almost the DEFACTO way of watching Jp streamers and it's definitely the defacto way to watch female streamers. That wasn't the case for EN and still isn't the case. They re competing against a ton of more established streamers on Twitch and some on YT, and the EN Yt culture is to watch VODs/clips. Changing that culture to one that's more willing to watch streams on YT is going to be...sigh I can't believe in saying this, a slow and steady process.

>>14115654
>numberfagging cherripicked example to firce a narrative
Now pick any other Mori song.

>>14115616
>All that money for models and outfits
Wow really breaking the bank on that.
>No no, don't worry about the game were making, it's the outfits! yeah that's the expensive part!

>>14115616
Spending a bunch of money on the same market isn't going to get you much better results. They didn't release a new gen for over a year because they didn't want to, not because they somehow couldn't because they bought 50k in rigs for the EN branch (which prints money for them anyway). There's a reason Cover is successful and it's because they're not run by random idiots from the internet.

>>14115334
Jesus fucking christ. You're such a fucking tryhard, you don't even contribute to this thread just derail.

Kys COLOSSAL faggot

>>14115748
>muh CCV
So tiresome and boring.

>>14115446
Same reason as the china holofans before when they were asked why they rather watch holojp than holocn. Because jap sakura girls cuter. There are chinese chuubas like myth that are standout perfomers but majority is still small numbers. I gonna mention china weeb audience is far bigger and mature than the western scene too.

>>14115634
Kek, that shit is so small I can even see my toes from the first line

>Back to number
Prediction?

>>14115700
I think EN viewers just hate single-player game streams that aren't meme game.

Look at Subaru's numbers right now.
>>14115842
24k

>>14115778
Sure!

Mori - Red
9.6 million views - 4th April 2020

Suisei - Ghost
10.5 million views - 13th April 2020

Commence the cope!
>T-That doesn't count either!!!

>>14115334
'Pretending to be retarded doesn't mean you're absolved of staying stupid shit'.
Here's your (you), now get out.

>>14115334
nta but that con is the 2nd biggest anime con in NY and they sold 50,000 tickets.

>>14115654
You know there's like 50 other people in Hololive, most of whom release songs semi-regularly? How many of those beat Mori's stuff?

Maybe time to rename numbers threads to tribal faggotry.

>>14115616
I swear to god this is an actual chink or something, catering the EN market is the only thing that saved Cover from completely collapsing post taiwan yab, not to mention their greatest period of explosive growth is in the four months after EN debuted. Are you just salty that Hololive abandoned china for the rest of the world or do you just hate yourself that much?

When is this faggot going to be range banned. Fucks sake he's been derailing discussions for months already

>>14115162
>Fauna schizo that finally left
More like holoX proved me right so no need to talk about the failure anymore.

>>14115700
We'll see later on if it continues to be a debuff when Mumei starts breeding and shiny hunting. I'm still banking on her for good stream numbers. It's just disappointing to see her struggle during one the most anticipated battles.

What is it about Chloe? How does she do it? Is pon energy that much of a buff?

>CCV isn't important
you fucking dumbasses. Comparing EN to JP CCV is stupid but you can still compare EN to their previous months; And that shows council is declining

>>14115919
There are at least two. One who is an unironic chink who loves to shit things up, and one that's a /jp/ sperg that has decided to set up shop HERE of all places instead of fucking off back to /jp'.

JP numbers so we can get back on topic.

>>14115842
30k?

STOP REPLYING TO BAITS YOU FUCKING RETARDS!!! YOU PLAY RIGHT INTO COUNCILSCHIZO'S PALM!

>>14115926
Unfortunately it's way to easy to derail stuff. I was in the Vshoujo thread earlier and just asked something about Saruei and they were raging at each about her until the thread got archived.

>>14115842
Pekora and Subaru are sure to overlap and it isn't JP Primetime but it's her first Karaoke.
I say 30k.
>if Peko and Shuba ends early then 50k

>>14115835
>. I gonna mention china weeb audience is far bigger and mature than the western scene too.
(You)

>>14115926
janny only cares about /hlgg/ and the myth generals

>>14115926
unfortunately being a disingenuous asswipe is not a bannable offence

Maybe we should numberfag VOD views and compare them, since I'm also tired of this VOD vs CCV discussion.
Besides the clear outliner that's Gura, how many ENs actually have strong VOD views?

>>14116028
Think Sora can get 10k with this one?

>>14115979
She is cute and knows how to use her voice. Is really the Gura of JP.

>>14115616
Zhangs really aren’t subtle

>>14115616
Isn't this false? Creating HoloEN actually renewed the interest in vtubing as a whole. Peko numbers would even slow down at 800k

>>14115979
She's the Lex Luthor of vtubing

>>14116083
I surely hope so. But it doesnt look like it

>>14116049
vshojofags hate saruei or something?

>>14115835
yeah fellate that chink dick more why don't you

>>14115842
>3 hours before stream
ask later

December 2 2020 - December 3 2020 (Susan thanos happened) - December 4 2020

>>14116083
Shuba, Lamy and botan are blocking the path

>>14116080
Indeed, but he rages every time the idea of thread IDs gets suggested because he knows he'd get outed immediately.
Thread IDs would go a long way in reducing the amount of low-effort samefagging (Not eliminate it entirely, I'm aware there are simple enough ways around it but most people cbf to do even that much)

>Reminder

>>14116081
VOD views kind of suck because they don't even stabilize for days afterwards at which point no one really gives a shit about them. Peak works best cuz it is what it is and won't change so you can make a nice chart of them that same day.

>>14115899
Both did well, yeah? Gura mogged them with Reflect anyway, 11m - June 21 2021
And why are we even comparing songs all of a sudden? Weren't we talking about streams?

>>14116097
yeah, it is. That guy is either a zhang salty about the whole taiwan thing or a last samurai who decided to stay with hololive instead of going to nijisanji where his views on yamato damashi would be more well supported

>>14116081
Mori (the music helps A LOT) and Ame

>>14114388
At this point who is IRyS NOT a sex slave to in Hololive?

>>14116137
views dropped

>>14116083
No. Is already declining. Unless they start to sing then I can't see it going up again.
Thinking about it, a challenge stream where every time one of them dies they sing could be a way to bring numbers.

>>14116115
Soda-chan has been having a lot of fun. I hope she gets push to 8k or 9k before the stream ends.

>>14116167
>stuff sucks because we're lazy

>>14116137

Peko getting 48k playing Apex, what the fuck

>>14116176
Because he doesn't care about having a good faith discussion, he just has an axe to grind and cherry picks the numbers that support his point

>>14116137
>Peko 48k with APEX
What the FUCK

where is the weekly cover song numberfag premier?

>>14116167
>Peaks work better for reactionary schizos
Very cool

>>14116117
Some do, some don't. There's some schizos there that lose their shit that she's even allowed to be mentioned and there's shills that just treat the thread like Saruei General.

>>14116245
Still in a couple of hour

>>14116137
>Matsuri 17k
Old times...

Subaru about to hit 30k and half the thread is shitflinging

>>14113183
Her biggest asset right now (asides from her design) is her voice gap when she sings and her willing to pander to English viewers with some English ability. We don't really know if she can make a gaming stream entertaining like Pekora or Miko can.

>>14116204
Oh! That would really boost them a lot. IRyS has been doing a great job of keeping EOPs interested too.

>>14114977
>People bitch that management has to much say
>People bitch that management let's them have too much freedom
Omega just can't win it seems

>>14116228
Exactly.

has this been updated?

>>14116249
Any particular reason?
Don't follow the Twitch scene in any capacity.

>>14116117
Way I understand it some people in there are trying to make Saruei an honorary vshojo like snuffy and other people really don't like it because she rarely interacts with vshojo and accuse the former group of wanting to turn the place into a general twitch vtuber general.

>>14116220
Yeah im watching rn. Are (you) watching, anon?

>>14116245
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8EIYLRf_yU

>>14115863
the games that the west like to see and japan likes to see is different.
not sure why people make a fuss about it.
the west focus on multiplayer or competitive games. Japan is more aking to like sp games.
none of the persons from En who beat the E4 make a considerable jump on it, much less make a fuzz about it except mori but that was a nuzloke.

>>14116167
Give it a limit of lets say, 3 days.
It's better than people shutting down arguments as a whole using EN VOD views as their armor and Gura as their shield.
It IS the numbers thread, right? You DO want to compare numbers, right?

>>14116228
Correct. VOD views are for long-term analysis anyways. Trends are more valuable data, but that requires days/weeks/months of numbers.

>>14116308
From what I gather some people don't think she's done enough with Vshoujo to be granted the right to be included in their "expanded universe". They went through the same internal war with some vtuber named Bunny that only occasionally collabed with them and was part of the thread.

>>14116176
>And why are we even comparing songs all of a sudden? Weren't we talking about streams?
Because you started with the "CCV doesn't matter VOD views do" cope and I wanted to show you EN falls behind on that metric too.

>>14116277
it isnt as bad as the nip numberfags' usual place though http://virtualyoutuber-matome.blog.jp/archives/12845145.html#more

>>14116091
>the Gura of JP.
You wish, for instance she already us streaming more than Gooruh and other ENs.

>>14116323
I am! Glad I stayed because it's been a blast.

Subaru 30k get

>>14116308
see >>14116318
and what the other guy said

>>14116283
people here think tat management wants only numbers
if pople here were managers they would make fucking tourneys every week done by the company and at least 4 MC streams a week.

>>14116370
You can do that if you want. Someone has to put in the work though, consistently, otherwise no one's gonna be interested except in small bursts.

>>14116248
>reactionary
Big crossover between globalfags and bunkertroons huh

>>14116426
Then why don't you put in the work?

The number on sunday jp afternoon is nutz. Are we sure it's not prime time yet? Pekor in 30 minutes.

>>14116477
oh for the love of god can you take your stupid fucking war out of the numbers thread you god damn fucking cunt

>>14116426
>I wanted to show you EN falls behind on that metric too
But Gura exists? And RIP exists? How are they falling behind exactly?

what days/times are buffs/debuffs?

>>14116028
Really good numbers all round. Was Sunday JP noon that good typically? Or we are just seeing renewed interest in hololive from gen6 debut?

>>14116534
Pekora and Subaru single handedly made this timeslot pure gold after countless weekends of work.

>>14116456
could be more fun if Irys actually skilled,like holy shit she's a burden

Speaking of songs Moona and Ina's are both doing pretty good, 300k and 400k respectively after a few days.

>>14116456

>>14116477
I don't even know what you're implying

>>14116560
Pekora and Subaru have been camping this timeslot for a couple of months now and the results are showing I think. Pekora's and Subaru's weekend numbers have been on the incline since before gen6

>>14116582
>could be more fun if Irys actually skilled,like holy shit she's a burden

>>14116546
When Chloe has her OG song, Gura's Reflect and King records WILL fall.

>>14115271
You are referring to a gen 1 Jp member, the rules were very different back then for them and gen 2. And I’m sure it’s still much of the same for them now

>>14115056
Yeah, EN breaks the truly braindead numberfaggots here and they just can't wrap their head around it. Its not that hard to figure out though and to say that EN is anything other than a smashing success is simply being purposely obtuse or just being a retard.

Whenever EN has a big event (costume, merch drop, new song release, big milestone stream) the numbers are absolutely massive. New song releases break records, merch sells out in minutes, conventions have to move panels because the rooms can't hold the sheer amount of people that show up. Simply put, western fans consume Hololive in a different way from the japanese fans. They aren't going to go out of their way to tune into the daily streaming but when something big happens they are going to be there.

You can cry cope all your want but that is just the way it is. I'm just tired of the sub 50 IQ retards slinging around bait because they can't see beyond CCV. Its absolutely frustrating.

Subaru is getting to THAT scene, expect a number bump.

>>14115567
Remember when everyone fell for the workaholic meme? Simpler times

>>14116474
I'll have to track them manually and I can't this month due to being busy so I'll try in the future. A quick glance shows that even Subaru stomps everyone in terms of stream VODs in EN besides Gura so how is the EN VOD argument even holding up

>>14116655
We hope so, another holomem nijisanji has to chase

>>14116669
anon, they aren't numberfaggots, they are here with an axe to grind and just pick whatever numbers supports the position they are pushing and decided to stay here because this place is now the third most active thread on the board

>>14116655
she will make a cover for sure but thats about it
not sure if the new girls have the ambition for originals. Chloe didnt even practice neither fo her karaokes.

>>14116669
just wait a few weeks. Endengumi posting was like this too. They wont fell to endengumo levels but im sure half of the gen will be used to shitpost hololive after they decline.

>>14116363
it's gonna be a blood bath this week

>>14116803
case in point >>14116716 replying to himself after nobody gave him the yous he wanted. does this guy look like a numberfag to you?

EN is shit, glad HoloX and JP is inclining.

>>14116669
Again. I'll give all the credits to those achievements to Myth. Not Council.
Council was in the con they're in because of HoloEN, not because of Council.
Despite their poor work ethics, Myth truly is the pillar of HoloEN.

>>14116803
Shitting on ENfags with their low numbers is half the fun! Since globalfags are insufferable and have shit up this place ever since they migrated en masse from reddit and tried pushing their unityfaggotry. Feels good they finally know their branch is shit and there is objective quantifiable proof of that.

I think Chloe should also play Pokemon and Minecraft while the debut buff is on.

Otherwise her first minecraft stream might fail to even reach 30k

>>14116822
Absolutely, the 4 or 5(?) Will be X.

>>14115899
We really doing this again? I blew you the fuck out in the last thread faggot. Amazing how you just go back to the same thing since you are such a collasal retard.

>Ghost Views (youtube + spotify)
13,761,564
>Red Views (youtube + spotify)
15,019,186

How about a more contemporary choice of two songs that came out around the same time (only 1 week difference).

>Stellar Stellar Views (youtube + spotify)
4,340,546
>End of a Life Views (youtube + spotify)
7,868,791

>>14116669
You are acting as if JP fans don't buy merch and go to events.

>14116971
GO
FUCKING
BACK
TO
JP
YOU
LITTLE
SHIT
You've been shitting up numbers for ages now, take a rusty stick, shove it into your eye, AND STIR.

>>14116905
Based

>>14116626
Interesting to see other holomems are benefitting from subaru & pekora's work. Makes me wonder if they can cultivate other timeslots as well and make inroads into other demographics (kids, housewife and etc)

>>14117003
Do japs even use spotify?

>>14116727
What's the argument? I'm sort of out of the loop about what you're concerned about. I thought looking at VODs might be interesting in and of itself, not to prove some specific grudge you have.

>>14116971
case in point, tell me, do you consider this guy a numberfag or a shitposter?

How many covers and originals has council released so far? I really hope that they have more than Holo X.

>>14117018
Why? You're clearly seething and I want to see more of it

>>14117023
They probably are but just like KR there is more mainstream platform for music streaming.

>>14117043
1000% a /jp/ shitposter who's been shitting up the thread constantly. Shitposting isn't against the rules though so you should stop giving him (you)s.

>>14117039
>EN fans don't watch streams because they can't catch them live so they watch the VODs instead
I don't have a grudge against EN, just wondering how does the argument holds up without Gura in the equation.

>>14117043
If you've been around the number thread. These posters are called numberniggers.

And despite him flat out admiting that he's here just to troll he'll still get yous

>>14117088
>Shitposting isn't against the rules
Says who?
>>>/b/

>>14117058
bae had one cover
both kronii and mumei are doing an original

HoloEN vs HoloJP again
+a new one, HoloMyth vs Council.
Its always like this.

Let's just do the more sensible comparison.
Hololive vs Nijisanji since they're actually competitors

>>14117110
No one really uses it. I know because I tried to push it back in the day and pretty much nobody else used it

>>14117003
This is the equivalent of Nijifags combining their views. Not that surprising that ENfags have fallen to the Nijifags level, it was inevitable. They'll be slapfighting with NijiEN over who is less of a minnow soon.

Numbers. Pretty good retention for botan and lamy.

>>14117151
I mean good luck getting a mod to visit the thread. Especially these days, it feels like the entire meido team took an extended vacation or something

>>14116905
which JP?

>>14117157
Nijifags will just call this thread a hugbox and an anti Niji thread again. Oh nyooo.

>>14117177
my poor Owl

>>14117103
I think that the argument you might be thinking of is that EN VODs grow a lot more by portion over a fixed period of time (say, 3 days) than JP VODs do. I would be enormously shocked if that wasn't the case but it would be interesting to see. Take the stabilized number, 2-5 hours after the stream ends, and then track that out 72 hours from when the stream started or ended. Do that for, well, everyone, over the course of a week and you might get some interesting numbers to sort through.

>>14117191
Number thread been cleaned up multiple times.

>>14117215
They'd be right

>>14117157
Problem is that Niji is such a fucking joke right now that we can't do that. Holo are on 14 day streak and chances are that it will only get worse given that Holo has 5 more guaranteed golds thanks to myth outfit.

>>14115614
Case in point lol.

>>14117158
If they continue to be lazy, take multiple breaks, no 3D and no New Gen for maybe TWO or THREE YEARS.
Then yeah NijiEN might catchup.

But otherwise, NO.
HoloEN will always dominate and mog NijiEN.

>>14117023
they do

>>14117248
yeah you mean like the time the suischizo decided to spam the thread and it took the meidos three hours to respond?

>>14117230
Eh, her median will still be 11k even with this

>>14117191
They...do visit, once in a while. Just not very often compared to other threads, and understandably so since hlgg is where a large chunk of the board activity is.

>>14117191
They only care about /hlgg/ and the myth splits like I said earlier.
The shitposters in the kfp thread in particular regularly get banned

>>14117158
What a pathetic cope. You could have at least tried to come up with some kind of decent rebuttal.

>>14117272
Do we have similar states for the states and europe? I feel like spotify is more dominant over here but I don't have the numbers to back that up

>>14117259
Didn't Chloe basically win the day already at 10 am JST? Nijisanji can't even get medals at this point because they still need to get past Fubuki fishing and Pekora.

>>14117010
Not as much as EN on a relative basis, JP market is much bigger but EN already matches them despite being a smaller market.

>>14117263
Mumei is the second highest subbed Council and is only 2k ahead of Petra. I think the gap is closing faster than you think

>>14117285
Do anons even report these days? I see them engaging with the spammers instead.

>>14117259
4 Guaranteed Gold since the Kiara Outfit might slip.
Ame and Ina have been lazy so theirs is also not 100% sure to win the day.

Is it confirmed that it will not be a relay? T

>>14117259
I hope we get those outfits this year.

>>14117257
>past hour was entirely JP vs EN and shitting on Council numbers
>right
meh
>>14117249
Which they'd be wrong. Again it's only a quick glance but you can compare Subaru's old VODs to other EN members that isn't Gura.
Tracking, well, all of them might need a script or a tool for it and I sure as hell don't know how to make one. I guess this is why no one bothered.

>>14117259
There are very few real Niji watchers. There's people who watch Niji EN but that's not really the same thing and there's not much reason for them to be in the numbers thread anyway since Niji EN isn't really relevant in that sense. It's just people who use the Niji males, when they have a good stream, to cause havoc and shit up everything with their "kneel" stuff. When that isn't available they find other stuff.

>>14117272
Reminds me of that one nijifag saying spotify was irrelevant in Japan and everyone used line instead.

>>14117230
Owl really got raw deal. Part time streamer with good reason ended up in gen like Council. No help for her whatsoever.

>>14117177
Jesus christ. Patra is still streaming?
I admire NijiEN for doing the grind but this is absurd.

>>14117296
This thread is frequently number 2, sometimes we are 1th.

>>14117341
>Birthday
vs
>Random postgame stuff so she can get the shiny hunting tool and start shiny hunting, as her shiny autism started leaking earlier
If Mumei does a 3 hour shiny hunting stream....Mumei, please. Do it. The numbers, your DESIRE for the SHINY.

>>14117341
Petra is having her Birthday stream (endurance).
Compare it to HoloEN's birthday stream and you'll see how massive the difference

>>14117320
What rebuttal? Japs don't use Spotify so obviously combining Spotify with Youtube plays is going to swing things in favor of Mori. Nothing more than cooking the books to try and portray the situation more favorably that it is in reality. Japs buy physical media and use Apple Music. The fact they're so close even after you tried to cherry pick in favor of Mori as much as you possibly could is still an indictment on Mori.

>>14117341
yeah bro petra's birthday stream is just 2k away from Mumei's three hour stream, that surely means NijiEN is catching up.

Is this the number thread or the council anti thread? Step up your discussion if you're gonna give them shit.

>>14117417
black company forcing their streamers to work ungodly hours

>>14117467
The gap is 10x smaller than the gap between Chloe and Gura.

>>14117341
It's Petra's birthday, probably the worst birthday numbers for any Niji EN so far (Reimu will be lower, and then probably all the males if you count them). Selen had over 8k for hers a few days ago.

>>14117426
During big numbers events yes, and during those times I'm sure there's a janny or two lurking but things just devolve into "NUMBER GET" so any shitposts get drowned out.
As for reports...well, reports for really annoying shit like wojack and frogspam yes, but stupid fucks like that /jp/ spammer are easy enough to spot to just hide the posts.

>>14117462
Still a severe cope but I give you credit this time for at least coming up with something. Your spotify argument falls apart as >>14117272 already showed. The Japs do use Spotify.

>>14117371
>Ame and Ina have been lazy
Ina of all people, nijinigger.

>>14117432
i dont think the west are as willing to watch a shinny hunting stream as the east.
the magikarp race has some resonance withe them becasue the Koi legend so there is some meanning behind trying to catch one too.

>>14117398
There's really only the one guy who watches nijiEN and visits this thread, and he's the same retard who posts shit like this and demands that we kneel because Enna has a whopping TWO THOUSAND VIEWERS, HOLOEN'S DAYS ARE NUMBERED LOLOLOLOLOL
anyway there is a reason why Nijifags are shat on around these parts

>>14117567
NTA but why did you have to add Spotify numbers in order to beat Suisei's?

>>14117542
>>14117341
>>14117467
what is up with nijiEn birthdays lasting an eternity nowdays

>>14117323
probably Spotify > Amazon music > Pandora > Apple music in the US

>>14117588
Fubuki is also godly in those type of streams, her and Flare's interactions have been funny as hell.

>>14117628
Petra has literally every Nijisanji coming in one at a time. My knees are going to go through the ground if Lulu shows up at this rate

>>14117567
Now show it relative to US users. If US users use Spotify more as their preferred music streaming platform than Japanese (They do) then that's still attempting to cook the books in favor of Mori. Not to mention it's entirely arbitrary combining only Spotify with Youtube, why stop there? Why not combine all plays on all platforms?

Your cope is transparent.

>>14117619
Why not? Why not include all the views a song gets? You also get a higher quality version of the audio when you listen on spotify so if you don't care that much about the music video you are going to listen to it on a service like that. It would be silly to NOT include it.

>>14117368
Nobody reports these days because reports don't do shit. It's literally the broken windows principle in action, people don't report because the janitors aren't shown to do work, and since the janitors aren't shown to do work people feel more comfortable shitting up the place.

>>14117628
SC farming.

Is EN VOD growth lower or higher than JP VOD growth?

>>14117476
What is the difference? Council has shit numbers so people shit on them.

>>14117695
>Noomberfags don't know what having friends is like
Really sad actually

>>14117588
>>14117645
Willing to accept its probably not as BIG of a draw, but the overlap between willingness to watch 'gacha' draw streams and HoloEN watchers is probably a bit higher than you think.
>>14117628
When you don't have merch for sale during the bday, you gotta milk it them with SC readings and shit to maximize your income.

>>14117390
Who did you want to compare Subaru with? Subarus pretty big nowdays, if she's getting 18k for a stream and someone in EN is getting 10k no amount of VOD growth will equalize that. It would be be more like the difference between a 10k streamers and a 13k streamer ending up the same. In theory anyway, like you said, it's too much work for people to bother with.

>>14117320
>>14117462
Look at these retards cherry picking things to fit their narratives Kek, they dominate cover/orignals with just the 2 of them, why would you even need to nitpick and just look like absolute schizo's?

>>14117716
Idk about all of EN but Gura's is kinda stupid fast.

>>14117716
Didn't you hear? Vod views don't count cause something.

>>14117692
This isn't reddit you can't get the jannies to delete opinions you dislike, nor can you get them to try and stifle discussion because you think pointing out EN is failing is "trolling"

This thread can be massively improved with flags and post ids.

>>14117611
That's not true, I watch Niji EN, Pomu and Nina specifically, but there's just not much cause to talk about them here except when Pomu occasionally charts on Supers and I can give her a shoutout.

>>14117467
>>14117542
Aqua and Noel birthday streams got higher numbers than any of Kuzuha's recent streams so
Aqua > Noel > Kuzuha??

>>14117403
Anon line music is the biggest music platform in JP.

https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/japan-line-misaki-iki-traction-line/

>>14117786
They'll count if they give the ENfags some way of coping, if EN looks bad then they don't count. That's how it works. EN gets mogged in CCV therefore that metric is bad and doesn't count.

>>14117808
A lot of the shitposters got exposed as spics and SEA when there was that /sp/ thread with hololive and baseball.
Marineschizo got outed as a Mongolian.

>>14117628
They figured out it works for them and ends up netting a bunch of cash. Birthdays as an event for the whole branch is kind of cool. I like it more than the 1 hour pump n dump with 5 minute totsus and a hardlimit merch announcement that Hololive does. Even the Holo ID branch does much better.

>>14117795
Nigger there someone who flat out admitted that he's only here to troll and he's still up, literally fuck off with your false equivalence.

>>14117808
Yes and no. I suspect a lot of shit would devolve into shitting on SEA even when there's no reason to do so, but it'd definitely cut down on samefagging and blatant shitposting to some extent.

>>14117716
>>14117786
Only Gura's VODs are ridiculous. The rest not so much.
>>14117751
I compared hers with Mumei, Calli, Kronii and Ame's. Subaru's VODs had higher views.
It's just for the past several streams of course.

>>14117716
VOD growth seems to be equal between both branches when you factor in CCV and hours streamed. The only outlier is Gura who has absolutely absurd VOD growth. Like, she will stream a collab with somebody and they might have similar CCV but the Gura VOD will have 400k while the other member has like 140k or something like that.

>>14117840
>Although sales of physical music formats in Japan fell in 2020, CDs and vinyl still made up over two-thirds of the country’s annual recorded music trade revenues. Streaming, meanwhile, contributed less than a fifth of the market’s wholesale industry turnover.
I wonder why the Deadcuck is so desperate to add Spotify to the count lmao

>>14117341
Botan and Lamy is getting 22k each.
Kuzuha only got 29k yesterday.

Oh no no no Nijibros. Gen 5 girls are catching up to Kuzuha? #1 of Nijisanji?

>>14117885
nigger.

>>14117716
Lower. Even memeshark is reclining in that metric and getting mogged by rabbit and HoloX regularly

>>14117692
I try to always report those S01 face things and they only occasionally get taken down.

>>14117808
yeah, even id is enough, i dont know why Hiromoot still wont implement id system across the board, even /bant/ has one, does it take more money to implement more of that shit?

>>14117716
depends on the holo? just like Subs Gura breaks VOD views and growth is crazy. the reapers pretty solid while the rest is ok at best

>>14117949
does hiromoot even give a shit about this place other than getting people to buy vip

>>14117811
>Nina
Kill yourself, faggot.

Noel 14k based singing stream right now.

>>14117692
it works though

>>14117998
no. The site basically died when moot left

>>14117821
I think your autism or ESL is preventing you from picking up facetiousness and arguments that actually agree with what you seem to think.

>>14117811
>Nina
Fuck off onions filled cuck

>>14118022
Does it? Does it really?

So no EN can beat Chloe today?

>>14117628
>>14117695
>>14117740
>Long stream BAD
HOW CAN I EFFICIENTLY NOOMBER IF STREAM LAST LONG??

Enter the number rabbit let's see who's going take a hit.

>>14118099
No one can beat Chloe period.

>>14118099
Chloe is honorary EN.

>>14118025
surprised he gave enough of a shit to make /vt/ but I'm aware there was a mod fight at the time between /qa/ /v/ and /jp/ at the time.

>>14118099
soon.

>>14118041
My point is HoloEN is still lightyears away from NijiEN's grasp.

Their "events" such as birthdays and collabs is the reason why they seemed to be inclining.
You saw what happened when you spam tourneys and events. They lose their big buff and your slow and steady cope won't work anymore. Why don't you look at NijiJP.

>>14118151
Oh? What happened?

Why do many SEAs and ESLs like to bait and troll-post about HoloEN anyway? Is there some sort of hatred between them and HoloEN?

I mean, they can't be all nijifags right?

>>14118151
Did qa get entirely deleted? I don't really understand the point of that board anyway but it seemed to serve as containment for some really fucked up people.

>>14118151
I'm still surprised he actually cared enough to nuke /qa/, that place has been a festering cesspool for years

>>14118203
They pick the weak link of the chain and use them to shitpost.

>>14118099
Yeah but the most important thing is that

No Nijisanji will beat it unless they show their desperation and put a collab of their top talents singing or baiting for ccv.

>>14118203
Cuz a lot of people watch Holo EN and will respond to it.

>>14118203
nijifags are mostly SEA

>>14118220
I think they threatened to dox site staff so /qa/ is now RIP. Unsurprisingly the shit that was contained there was spread all about the site as a result.

>>14118246
>on a deserted island
>playing baseball
>while singing KING
That is how Nijisanji wins

>>14118153
You stand no chance koyote
But I'll give you 30k floor

>>14118177
At least not in supachats
>Shark losing to MIllie of all people

>>14118189
from what I remember (I may be wrong), /v/ and /qa/ mods thought the no doxxing rule for vtubers was bullshit and instigated a raid on /jp/ (a mod made wojack gura cover the entire board for a week).
At the time in /jp/ hololive only consisted of one thread and this fight made it take over the entire board with doxx threads and killing off the 2hus.

>>14118278
I just remember they were coming to jp and making doxx threads and then came and posted a bunch of Annoying Orange threads when vt opened.

>>14118246
Guerilla 3d concert might do it

>>14118316
2 threads, the JP-only one with the Japanese title and the EN-friendly Hololive Global one.

>>14118316
Hololive was two threads (/hlg/ and /hlgg/) in /jp/ but yeah, I remember that month of chaos. Hololive threads getting spammed and kicking everything off the board. Full dox threads that would stay up for days. It was quite a time.

>>14118316 (me)
I meant to say they made the gura wojack cover all of /qa/ so it obviously pissed them off

>>14118400
The global thread was a containment thread for the influx of redditfags that EN would instigate. Unfortunately people forgot that when /vt/ was made and now we're completely overrun by them

>>14118220
Containment boards don't actually work unless there's a hard rule enforcing it, and the only place on this site where that is true is mlp. Otherwise it just gives the containment board a place to refine their ideology and raid other board from

>>14117942
>reading comprehension

>>14118440
>reports totally work guys, trust me

>>14118440
People can always stay on jp, there's still a holo thread there. I don't know if the hlgg one died off finally but the snobby jp-only one is still kicking.

>>14118508
It's soft containment, take up peoples time so they mostly just sit and circlejerk with each other.

>>14116137
PEKORA PLAYED APEX? And get good number with it even
What the fuck lmao

Speaking of VOD views
https://youtu.be/jaf_jn5YLLs
The usual 300k get

>>14117808
>post ids
maybe
>flags
lol

>>14118415
/hlg/ splitting was the funniest shit ever.
This picture caused it to split into /hlg/ and /hlgg/

>>14118561
Nowadays the JP thread is just for /v/tards to do their console war stuff but with differing Holo branches, they literally spend more time blaming [boogeyman of the day] for making "bad posts" than actually talking about holos

>>14118638
Compare that with Chloe's karaoke VOD from the same time. Gura absolutely annihilated.

>>14118696

>>14118674
I started visiting in October 2020 during the chink crises and there were already two threads at that point. Reine wasn't even around then. You might be thinking of the incident that cause them to change the thread title to Japanese writing?

>>14118638
It blows my mind every time. This will be another 400k - 500k VOD once all the views get tabulated through whatever batshit system youtube uses. Its the main thing that leads me to believe that Gura's viewership is much bigger than what youtube is showing us.

>>14118674
Anon, you don't need to lie this badly to make a point.

>>14117733
>>14118111
HoloJPs could earn more than them on birthday totsus in just one hour. The same goes for HoloENs. They don't need a 3 hour endurance for $5k+. kek

>>14118790
No but if you can make 5k in one hour why not make 15k in 3 hours? I understand for JP they don't want birthdays to hog the primetime schedule but for EN it's irrelevant. They could do as long of birthdays as they wanted to.

What I want to know is how did Chloe become the biggest HoloJP member and soar past Pekora so quickly? What is her power? Her secret?

>>14118696
Reports totally work guise, no really they do

>>14118790
>could earn
GAHHH i'm... NOOOOMBERING

>>14118780
Despite all the VOD arguments for EN, I think only Gura applies to the "view growth after stream whatever what she does". Unless it's Ame's Myth anniversary I really can't see EN girls pulling that kind of growth compare to ccv.

>>14118874
Because money you get from streams doesn't scale like that?

Alright guys it's time
Trade alert!
Elira, Enna, Nina to Council, Niji get Fauna, Mumei, and Sana plus Pomu collab with Kiara, Ollie Selen Green light! No e-celeb during collab tho