/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>14451033 (op)
Fuck it supposed to be December of 10th

I'm just sad that Nijisanji can't get gold individually anymore.

Im getting random videos with a few hundred views on my youtube recc everytime i refresh, anyone else?

>>14452170
yes/no don't really know what you mean but, this fall YT algorithm changed again to REALLY push 1-2 videos it thinks you'd like.
They get recommended 10-20 times more than before, even if you already watched it.

Irys is going to collab with D4DJ. She's also doing another sponsored stream for Another Eden. Always wondered why she didn't get spons sooner. https://twitter.com/D4DJ_game_EN/status/1469577698733441025

>>14452378
Wow, three sponsored collab in a row

>>14451033
holy esl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH2L5O8CmOM

The die is cast

>>14452874
Die what cast now?

>>14452874
There it is. To us numberfags this is the only one of the outfit reveals that actually matters.

>>14452874
100k ccv
15k SC

>>14452716
Gomen desu it's a copypasta from previous thread

>>14452378
Since D4DJ is going viral right now, will this help IRyS in anyway?

>>14452874
if this doesnt hit at least 150k peak then those really are dead subs

>>14452874
is the thumnail some kind of joke about her rombus face and how she killed the rigger?

>>14452969
Kek it's a hint that the rigger is still rhombus anon

>>14452874
>>14452969
>>14453008

>>14452874
erotic thumbnail

>>14453061
he also tweet during council debut

>>14452874
UOOOOHHH TOT

My Nose smells some numbers.

>>14453257
Can we somehow force him to quit this industry?

>>14453328
impressive, how long is the relay? are they gonna mog niji on the chart?

>>14453355
>>14451911

>>14453349
Sure, we did bully that one artist, this one should be easy too.

I know we said no more tribalfag OPs but if the thread baker gave a funny war summary every few days or so I would appreciate it

>>14453328
WAIT WHAT? Another 10k for VSPO?

>>14453349
he has to do it for free since there is no way i can see someone paying for his rigs. you'd be better off learning it yourself than commissioning him

>>14453410
>we
Nice try nijinigger

>>14453355
oh true, it would be funny if we end up with
VSPO 4
Nijisanji 3
merise 2

The Everyone not Holo is Nijisanji skitzo couldn't handle it.

>>14452874
Oh, this gun b gud.

>>14453431
I would put money on Nose getting 15K.

>>14453349
At this point, I think it'd be easier to just move away from L2D tech altogether.

>Matsuri Channel 夏色まつり
>共有ツイートで応援よろしくね!!
it hurts
https://youtu.be/WELdC0CxYFc

>>14453061

>>14452874
150k

I hate to see it

>Ame 9,955
>Mumei 9,642
>Kiara 9,543
>Chloe 9,862
>Botan 9,960

All in the last 20 hours

>>14451235
They just have to innovate, anon. They need to find something that can hook both locals and foreigners alike. They also need to stop having yabs and spazzes filtering viewers.

>>14453568
kek

>>14453453
>3
What is on the menu for Nijisanji tonight/tomorrow?

>>14453489

>>14453546
10 guests

but i haven't felt the hype, not seen much promotion.

>>14451235
Graduate all the niji females

>>14453608
shion is gonna overlap it too, based ksgk

>>14453410
Not your personal army

>>14453596
Oh wow, I thought that would just be the reguar number of Niji streams, but that made me realize there were 0 Niji streams over 9k all day so far
https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly/2021-12-11

>>14453453
Wait is VSPO having a major incline moment right now?

>>14453585
>If you don't hit 10k, even with an SC reading, you're a failure
The number rot has well and truly settled in.

>>14453658
with just a premiere

>>14453658
only a premier, but still.

>>14453585
Ame and Mori coming juuuuust shy of 75k and 90k is also extra obnoxious

>>14453697
or for a while now?

>>14451235
>Kuzuha spamming random shit plus being broken into an idol meaning he streams in the wrong slot
>Toya phoning it in with kusoge instead of zatsudan which brings his good numbers
>Mito nerfed herself a year ago plus killed her schedule thanks to 3 concerts this year
>Lize is fine
>Toko is MIA with karaoke
>Edengumi is forever sub 10k
>Mayuzumi has depression so no more loreshit that brings insane noombers
>only golds are things like totsu, large collabs, or event POV
It's over plus CR Apex scene is dying. So no more tournament buffs since Nijisanji lives in their pocket.

>>14453697
not really, they've been steadily growing for a while now.

>>14453753
Nothing will piss me off more than pic related, it still lives rent free in my mind.

>>14453784
this one's more annoying

>>14452969
It's an old face if that makes it clearer.

>>14452874
i like the boldness kek, is this going to be the start of her reincline bros?

>>14453809
Especially since she was actually closer to 3.5 million $
Still, if the Yen ever inclines, she'll pass 3 million eventually.

Weekly Hololive (and stars) time streamed. Time streamed was consistently trending down the whole year but with the HoloX debuts the stream time is again at beginning of the year levels.

>>14453757
>>14453765
No, I know they've been inclining for a while. I mean to know if they're actually getting a boost today more than the normal inclining they normally have.

>>14453862
It's cheating if you add the stars due to Aruran.

>>14453882
The boost is due to a PC collab (first ever) plus the males in their team (some non vtuber esports fags, one is an announcer) but I assume they aren't adding that much

>>14453882
oh, yeah then, they're having a relay.

>>14453882
They pretty much have all apexfags attention completely focused on one pov. It's impressive

>>14453882
Well it is a special event so yeah. They've been down lately because a few of them got sucked into the ARK deathtrap but there's still a healthy fanbase for their proper content.

>>14452952
I'm pretty sure the reason why they are getting better traffic is because of Irys herself. Whether or not it helps Irys is yet to be seen. Atleast she's going to get paid. I hope she is. Maybe if she streams it she will get paid.

>>14453882
1 pov relay event with a giveaway. yeah i guess that's a boost.

>>14453809
nevermind, this one's the most annoying one by a mile

>>14453811
That it is Anon, that it is.
Guesstimate : 140-150k, imo there is no way it hits anywhere close to the peak of last time due to
-Weaker En CCV across the board, not just HoloEN. This is a known phenomena due to the winter holidays, but was masked last year due to the view culling change and 'rona restrictions still in place
-2nd outfit, will be somewhat weaker unless you can tie it in to some other announcement (close to bday etc)
-not part of a connected fashion week like the earlier reveals were.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btok934RvAw

*overlaps your 3D*

Nothing personnel, festival.

>>14453965
It's probably mostly because of the shit meme though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChnrVwIdFhA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWLgqp04Cno

>>14453761
Edengumi sub 10k? Do anyone even hit beyond 5k CCV regularly? Are you coping?

>>14454012
>Premiere
It's a w/e.

>>14454025
Sub 10k means with events/tourneys too they can't even get into the charts.

>>14454025
Leo is the only one, the others only in special occasions

>>14453982
Especially since a lot of anons posted 498k viewer screenshots.

IF YT hadn't fucked up in those last 10 minutes it should have been well over 600k at the end.

>>14453954
>a few of them got sucked into the ARK deathtrap
kek

>I TOLD YOU ALL ABOUT ARK
YOU SHOULD HAVE LISTENED!

>>14453986
As a fan I will low ball anything related to Gura...100k is enough to make me happy.

>>14453954
Ark arc was Unity.
VSPO needed it and it helped their sub 500 live viewer streamers get to 1k more regularly.

>>14454101
Yeah but i believe she can get atleast 125k.

Holy fuck what the hell is with the 10pm JP timeslot. That timeslot is fucking bloody.

>>14454228
It's the post-live traffic jam. That's why Miko, Sora and a bunch of others fled to the earlier timeslots to avoid it.

>>14454228
Yeah. Marine - Kanata Pokemon.
Shiraken Minecraft for recruiting/interviewing Noel
Chloe undertale.
Irys and Bae.
Botan.
Watame night fever.
It's going to be a bloodbath.

>>14454264
yeah but its fucking Festival, if Matsuri doesn't get good numbers, it would look like 15 people fighting for a gram of rice.

>Iofi and Reine overlapping Festival

>>14454153
>>14454101
Hey it’s Gura we are talking about, be a bit optimistic. I think even 160k is possible
HoloX make me extremely generous with number lately

>>14454228
it's usual for jp prime time

>>14454313
Mori will overlap it as well if she doesn't get this pokemon in the next 40 minutes.

>>14454313
god bless the HoloID for keeping us entertained kek.

>>14454313
risu not overlapping? that's not a good sign for her numbers...

Why do ID's do this?

>>14454133
No, minecraft was already doing that just fine before.

Is there any good MMO so i can make a Hololive guild?

Mori says ENs can request nendos at 2 million subs. Interesting.

>>14454476
Eh? That's a a pretty harsh threshold. Might explain why she wanted to push for 2 mil asap

>>14453986
Gura's outfit reveal thumbnail is going all out, calling HERfans and pedo fans.
Also coming back from basically a long break.
It makes me believe she can make a record like her last time.

>>14454476
yes just 10 years for a Sana nendo!!

My oshi is there so I gotta watch but these numbers for matsuli's 3d are going to be grim aren't they.

>>14454476
Assuming you aren't just lying, obviously the previous collabs with GSC have gone over well enough that hololive now have a line with them to just order up new nendos and 2M subs was a figure cover came up with as a carrot on a stick for the EN branch.

>>14454476
GSC are the one who asked permission to Cover to make nendoroid, not the other way around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WELdC0CxYFc

Predictions?
i say 30k maybe 40k depending on the funneling.

>>14454476
But you can't just ask for a nendo from goodsmile. That isn't how it works.

>>14454615
Not lying, it was on her current stream. She has talked about it a few times. No time stamp, but right around reset 581 she talks about it for the second time.

>>14454688
80k. I believe in Senchou.

>>14454688
60k

>>14454615
>>14454747
not feeding shit rats but maybe Mori is sub baiting? Sounds like a good carrot on stick for her fans especially if she wants to hit 2m before the year ends.

>>14454615
I think it's just another Calli's "to do list for deadbeats" for her 2 million goal, like the moe moe kyun. Which means GSC might already asked the permission for Calli's nendo.

>>14454688
69k

>>14454688
There is currently around 60k+ watching other holos. Assuming all JP stops for the live that should be a funnel of 50k, if all move on. Noel might not stop since she's doing her shill stream for Another Eden. But I can't see it going much higher then that.
Calli has basically just started streaming, I don't see her stopping, the branch overlaps aren't forbidden but the optics of it every time it happens is kind of shit. Payback for fbk I guess.

>>14454688
55K

>>14454819
nvm I'm retarded, Calli has been streaming for a long time.

Matsuri shilled this live for days on her twitter.

>>14454688
40-50k assuming they dont overlap

>>14454476
>>14454611
Knowing Mori's retarded use of words, maybe it's just her personal goal because a lot of people will tune in for that celebration and that's a good timing to release something big like that

>>14454881
means nothing if you are not popular

>>14454476
No she said she wanted to ask for one. As in she'll push for one at 2mill.
At the 1st concert they said everyone in hololive is getting a nendoroid.

>>14454939
You could interpret it that way I guess, but that isn't what I heard.

>>14454910
912.2K followers
1.17M subscribers

>>14454910
She might be a little bit of a whore but to be fair her dancing is cute

>>14454786
I think you're correct. Since if it actually was a 2 million requirement, it will take Ina/Kiara something like 2-3 years at their current subscriber pace to reach it. For all shit I throw at Kiara and her numbers, I think she has enough hardcore fans that would buy her merch for such a wait to be a bit retarded from Covers pov.

>This tweet
https://mobile.twitter.com/himemoriluna/status/1469572530394771456
>karaoke before Matsuri live
Is Luna a tsundere?

>>14454974
Im not denying that, I don't watch her streams but I know she's a good dancer so I always try to catch her lives

>>14454819
Calli said she'll be streamin for 12 hours. It's going to overlap and no one should care about overlapping Matsuri.

>>14455018
>Mori out for blood after her JP senpais overlapped her
Finally, civil war

>>14455018
don't care since its a side branch the same way I didn't care about jp overlapping her outfit reveal

>>14455018
Eh, it's more a common courtesy then anything, but since every branch overlaps the other branches events it's kind of a none issue.

>>14454959
Then you need to clean your ears out. It was she was going to demand for a nendoroid not that they get to ask for them.

For those who missed from yesterday, here is an update on the ranking of medians.

Cutting point is a min of 3 streams this month right now
>you call it the "Ayame rule"
It will usually be *at least* one stream over whatever Ayame done this month, up until the usual 5 in the end of the month

Not a lot of surprises at the top but DAMN if the HoloX girls aren't working hard to take advantage of their buff.

1) Chloe (so far) ahead of pekora
2) Toya (so far) ahead of Kuzuha
3) Mumei with a month so good I had to double check to see if my script fucked up
4) Lize and Ibrahim taking full advantage of the Pokemon buff
5) Fubuki having an awesome month as well

>>14455050
The true test is if she can retain her viewers. Fubuki's viewership was inclining during Mori's outfit stream.

>>14455076
The only ones that overlap are the ID's, the EN girls don't stream over big events.

>>14455098
Here is the full ranking and some more comments

1) Petra and Anya are back together
2) Selen is like a clock with her unflinching 2.8k median
3) HoloJP bottom is rising (Roboco, Mel and Matsuri all above 3k) leaving Sana hanging by one Holo (Aki) to be the lower performing of EN+JP
4) Still on Sana, Selen median doesn't move (it's 2.8k in every ranking) meaning Sana has very little margin of recline before she gets overtaken or, better yet, before she overtake Selen to the bottom
5) Aruran has fucking 24 streams this month.
6) Hana Macchia is almost being overtaken by another NijiID
7) Without Bora, the highest performing NijiKR is at 345 median

>>14455117
gura overlap last year's sports fes

>>14455117
Nah, JP overlaps EN and ID, so it's not only a ID thing even if they do it the most.

>>14455117
>the EN girls don't stream over big events.
They also don't stream over small events, over JP regular streams or over each other streams, or over Nijisanji streams or over anything else that may be streamed on Youtube or outside

>>14453697
They are the real definition of slow and steady

8 mins before
this is just sad

>>14455187
the funnel begins once the jp streams end

>>14455098
>Sora and Mito inclining
nice, hopefully they can continue to incline until the end of Dec

>>14455098
>Chloe 34685 median peak
are you doing the dates based on JST or UTC?
Using utc her median is 33774. It wouldn't change the ranking but just curious why you have different numbers then I have.

>>14455187
What's that?

>>14455098
IRyS…your numbers…
(In all seriousness, less streams than Kronii? I rarely watch IRyS, but if she is reclining, that’d probably be why. One of her strength was streaming consistently)

>>14455121
Roha will be the leader of NijiKR now that Bora is gone, she has birthday tomorrow too, should be around 4 digits.

>>14455015
>It's Granblue Fes
Matuli...

>>14455136
Most of the time they don't, it always guaranteed ID is going to be streaming
>>14455144
Seeing as the JPs are the main branch, they don't care about any other one but their own

>>14455098
suisei just randomly in top 5

>>14455121
>Kiru the KR 2view not even on the list
I am worried for that branch.

>>14454688
Wait it's today!!??? I thought the concert is tomorrow dammit

>>14455098
Towa, the queen of the midgets.

>>14455121
People aren't lying when they said 1k ccv is above 99% of other chuuba.

>>14455274
She's working on Music so she can't stream as much as she was before, so of course she's falling.

>>14455260
>are you doing the dates based on JST or UTC?
JST, to be in line with NipBros that do it way longer than I do

>Using utc her median is 33774. It wouldn't change the ranking but just curious why you have different numbers then I have.
Your number is correct if you use UTC, pic related has the top 50 in UTC

>>14455302
>their own
exactly, and then it becomes a none issue if EN doesn't care for any other branch. If JP doesn't show the other branches the courtesy they wont receive it turn.

>>14455015
No anon, you are just stupid.

>>14454688
35k

>>14455380
>>14455121
Anon, please change the red to green or something. It hurts my eyes looking at this on mobile.

>>14455360
1k CCV doesn't put a streamer in the Top 100 of all VTubers but I'm sure it puts it in the Top 250 (out of some 60k, 80k streamers that would be considered as vtubers)

That gives no bragging rights tho: being able to finish a marathon in 10 hours puts a person within the 5000, 10000 people that can finish a marathon at all in a big city with tens of millions of people like New York, São Paulo or Tokyo but that doesn't make it a good time.

>>14455383
Yeah it shouldn't but they still do it. But also they only have like Mori, IRyS, Bae and Sana that would stream around this time, Sana hasn't been streaming in these times lately more late or early morning stream Australian time.

>>14455274
She's been pretty sick the last few weeks and working on Music recording.
Takes a big toll on her vocal chords so ofc she's having a hard time streaming on top.

>>14455493
Sorry anon, I'm now married to this color scheme. People also told me to change Hololive to blue (as it's their color) but yeah, life suck and now it stays like this.

>>14455121
>Hololive
Tier 1: 24
Tier 2: 13
Tier 3: 12

stars: 9


>Nijisanji
Tier 1: 6
Tier 2: 7
Tier 3: 97

>>14455314
She's just 1 stream above Ayame but shes also pretty strong

kek pretty sure most of the people here guessed correctly that Mtsuri would get sub 30k

>>14455601
she has 10 guests anon, which includes fubuki, subaru, and marine

>Matuli 20k getto!

>>14455580
>Tier 3: 97

>>14455601

Even with FBK and Miosha trying to funnel to Matsuri. Both ended their streams, and FBK has one scheduled right after the end of this live.

>>14455601
>>14455652
The real question is: will it beat Polka outfit stream?

That’s the real test

>>14455601
With her guests? No way.

>>14455649
I still laugh at that she hasn't tried to repair the burned bridges. Neither Luna or Haachama was on the set list from what I remember.

>Iofi and overlapping
Name a more iconic duo!

>>14455121
there should be 12 fbk streams on 12-10, one of her fishing stream was not tracked for some reason.

>>14455601
>how to spot a retard

>>14455704
What is it about Luna? I only know the Haachama incident.

>>14455704
FBK could mediate but she probably tired of Matsuri's shit over the years

MATSURI HAS BEEN SAVED

>>14455776
Matsuri was totally into Luna, and Luna reciprocated. Matsuri then fucked up in some way and broke some sort of promise, and despite them apparently having sorted things out, some things, when broken, just can't be repaired.

>>14455776
there is no incident between those two, Luna liked Matsuri but festival only care about Hoshikawa so Luna just give up

I just want to watch Subaru and Matsuri dancing together

>>14455105
She retained her viewers and pretty much slowly inclining even with this big event, while ID branch....

Don't tell me she got higher SC on apex gacha than her 3D ?!!!

gen 5...

>>14455649
Not even the big names can save festival anymore, she's truly a lost cause and needs to graduate

>Blue Clapper
>Gen 5
>Nepolabo
>4member
>1st gen
>no hachama
>aloe
What does matuli mean by this?

>>14455678
guests
>Subaru
>Marine
You tell me.

>>14455944
not yet, 30k incoming

help them get big number

>>14455745
Risu and avoiding group buffs.

Mori 12K

>30K GET
30K GET
>30K GET
30K GET
>30K GET
30K GET
>30K GET
30K GET

no

>>14455985

>>14455314
isn't this the second month where she's been there?

she's kind of got the Ayame rarity buff going on, but it's impossible to call her lazy.

>>14455957
>subaru
>1st gen

Oh I was wondering why there were random phrases by posted in Matsuri's chat, then I remembered that Fubuki is there.

>>14455601
K-kn-kneel faggot!

>>14455776
They were really close, Matsuri was Luna's mentor into Hololive but some time ~Sept 2020 they had a fight and stopped talking about each other on stream for a few months
Matsuri confirmed it in the Holotalk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V77HVD6tRw8

They patched things up since but they're more apart irl and rarely collab now.

>>14456055
Normally, I would hate those zhangs but it seems they are helping push the live count kek.

>matuli is gonna get mogged by mel-sama

that's odd, I dont see any red aka in matsuri stream at the moment...

Flare and Towa got 60 to 70k with a similar line up. I don't know if Matsuri will get near them

>There will be AT LEAST 5 holos with over 10m SC this month

nene's live with just suisei and towa will get more than this

>enter Marine & Kanata
>only 33k
Saving Matsuri...

>>14456121
>>14456133
A-anon... p-please stop..

>>14456121
Either her big fishes have moved on or they wait until the after talk stream that usually happens.

>>14456133
Hell no. At best she breaks 45k looking at her current name numbers, velocity and remaining guests. Imo, she tops out at 40k at most, and that's ENTIRELY of her own doing.

>>14456109
With youtube's ccv culling I'd be very surprised if the chinks actually get counted as a viewer.

shes burning through the best guests too early, her viewers are gonna tank when she brings the non-holo nobodies

>>14455302
Hey, one of the biggest JPs(Subaru) ended her stream super abruptly to funnel into Ame's reveal today and even told her viewers to go watch it.

mori also got overlapped by 3 million jps yesterday but hey, subaru

>>14456121
>all her gachi went to me!!

>>14456133
She should have did what Flare did and put them in her thumbnail...

>>14456133
She's gone through 5 guests now, fbk, duck and marine already done. Probably the one time the lack of bants really hurts the numbers.

>>14456201
that most likely gonna happen after the merch shill

>>14451493
>with an animated MV made by a big name
Dudul

>>14456235
yeah the lack of bants sucks
but there is nothing stopping Marine or co from showing up in another song

>>14456272
Nene don't you have a birthday to be in!?

>>14456217
>She should have did what Flare did and put them in her thumbnail...
Mel **taught a fucking lesson** in advertisement and promotion with her "Vampire slayer" Halloween massacre live and her cast was at most the same strength as Matsuri's

>Mori peaking after jp finished their stream for Matuli
kek I guess some people really don't want to watch menhera

>>14456272
Yes, we know anon, now shut up.
We're watching Nene in the Matsuri Christmas concert.

Jesus christ she's burned through all of her holo guests already not even 30 minutes in

>the menhera song
kek

>>14456272
yes please

How would anons save matsuri if you are her manager?

>>14456338
>WATASHI MENHERA JA NAI MO~!

is 40k possible?

>literally who appear
>views decrease
matuli...you cant save them

>>14456201
Kek. You called it, she hit 38k and started to drop when her Non-holo guests came on.

her 3digit view friends showed up
>numbers still going up
Matsuri really likes to help the community

>they sing menhera
gatchis start leaving

well.

>enter non-holo guests
>viewership drops

What did Haachama get for her Birthday stream? Want to know if festival mogs her or not

>>14456348
She clearly used her "mike" privilege to compel the others into her live

>>14456336
Mel is a lot more adequate when it comes to orginizing events like these due to her background and she is a lot more demanding when it comes to quality.

Her live is still one of the best lives among Holo 3D this year.

Just woke up, and HOLY KEK, HoloEN once again displayed their recline with Ame's outfit reveal. No doubt that their next outfit reveals will struggle with 10k ccv.

>>14456399
naked dogeza in front of Hachaama, forget about Hoshikawa and apex and more collabs with gen 1 and holox

Wat and Kotone need better 3D models.
Then again, they don't have Hololive money.

Matsuri's 3D looked like theirs back in 2018-19, but has gotten some updates since.

Matsuri..... oh no

Kotone looks better than at her own 3D live kek.

>>14456449
Nobody really cares about second outfits

>back to 38k
Kek

>>14456448
>Her live is still one of the best lives among Holo 3D this year.
100% agreed

>What did Haachama get for her Birthday stream?
55k and because she casted 73 debuff spells on herself

[Number News] Mori decided to turn her 12k viewer pokemon stream into an impromptu movie watchalong because she hates numbers

>>14456449
Yes, December is a rough time for EN.
People already knew that Amelia's would be production wise by far the best reveal stream, but there are fewer people available and interested to catch it live.

>>14456529
Which movie?

>>14456518
Haachama birthday live was cool with micomet and hoshikawa appearance

>>14456399
>Delete her second matsuri account, it's yab city.
>Collab tour with most of holomembers, starting with Haachama
>Join the boxpush
There, she's saved

>>14456529
>>14456545
Just checked it
>Hamilton
IMMEDIATELY TURNED 360 and walked away

>>14456545
shrek 2

>>14456552
And yet she did not announce them

>>14456545
Well, to be more specific it's a play. She's watching Hamilton.

In other news, gatchman's 3D stream beating his Phasmo regulars

>20,134 watching now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiYQpmwaNNM

>stalling at 38k

>>14456588
I guess he can do VR Phasmo later.

>>14456588
why do hololive 3d models look so much shinier than other chuubas?

>>14456529
She's still playing the game on screen, it's not causing any number shift

>>14456617
define shinier.

>>14456399
>Apologize to FBK, naked dogeza style
>Apologize to Luna
>Make up with Chammers
>Forget that whorikawa
>Never interact with 2view on stream again
>No man interaction on stream for a year
>no roommate stream
>No 2views collab unless it's group
>no apex
>Back to the original duo with FBKing and make kino shit again together

>>14456588
Very nice, good cast of guests too. Even got a NijiLoli as eye candy

>>14456617
Yagoo believes in white supremacy

>>14456598
>nonstop singing at concerts
Ask me how I know you're a fucking retard.

>>14456518
Yeah she didn't advertise the guest and should have got gold that day but as long as she isn't mogged by Matsuri then I'm happy.

>>14456651

hmmm, still not seeing any red aka at the moment...

>>14456588
Yeah Holo's 3D looks better.

>Tanked at 38k
Topkek
This is barely above FBK fishing earlier

>>14456647
>nijiloli
>mary
Anon...

>>14456617
Because they're way higher poly and more refined models.

People have been shitting on their 3D because tracking was glitchy for a long time, but they're among the better models in the industry and for the last couple of months their "3D studio" effects make them look even "shinier"

>>14456647
that loli is a niji? kek man they are so many

>>14456399
I'd tell her to do exactly what she's been doing. Show good will and determination, interact with other holos as much as you can and stream frequently.

How much would Roboco and Aki get for their Lives? More than Matsuri?

Matsuri is really talented. T'is a shame.

>>14456711
No

>>14456644
So, never then. Matsuri can't be saved, give up on it. Until she herself wants to be saved she's doomed to be low tier.

>>14456711
No that's tomari mari, a babiniku from Kizuna's circle

>>14456582
She hates numbers and is based like that

>>14456647
the male with an actual male frame has a tiny head

>>14456711
fucking philistine.

Underrated song about numberfagging by Mel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_XYpfEkvzQ

>>14456448
Still go back and watch the Mel Live every time a new one fails to live up to it to wash out the bitter aftertaste with its brilliance.

>>14456744
Depends, roboco got lucky with her new 3d debut and it caught on with eops. she had 50k or something.

>>14456644
She 1/2 did that with her "i was turned into a zombie and need forgiveness for all the sexual harassments i did"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ug_p4P8zu8

But yeah, genuinely a wester style "STREAMED" redemption arc would not only help her with personal bridges, but her overall image. Plus it would bring banger numbers since no JP chuuba does those.
But it would mean airing dirty laundry in public, which Japanese companies avoid like the plague.

Next time invite the full golden gen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBn-76qmSxY

>>14456752
>>14456399

>>14456572
>Collab tour with most of holomembers
>implying it's her who declined them and not the other way around
>especially Haachama

>>14456630
like there's always light reflecting on their models. whether it be their arms, hair, or outfit

>>14456744
Both have very good ties with other holos so it would be 40 at least if i is the same as matuli

>>14456647
Anon, who do you think that loli is?

>>14456744
Everyone should get better numbers then Matsuri she has burnt too many bridges

>>14456847
isn't that cause they are literal on a stage?

>>14456847
that's just the differences in lightning engine, also her current position is ment to replicate the look of a real live stage so that's alot of lights shining on her.

>>14456644
apologize to fubuki? for what?

Matsuri's numbers are not decreasing at all. Where are all the faggots who were saying she fucked up by burning through her guests? Lost your ability to type all of a sudden?

>>14456837
It could work if they made it one wholesome stream with tears and shit. I have a feeling FBK can definetly arrange that kinda kino stuff

lets numberfag something weird: Is the YAGOO boss battle from Ame's outfit reveal the highest YAGOO has peaked?

I don't remember how many viewers there were for Coco's interview with him, but that's the only other thing that comes to mind which might beat ~75k.

>>14456912
APOLOGIZE!

>>14456272
It's kaynimatic.

>>14456851
>>14456711
>>14456647
Think this anon is confusing Tomari Mari with Naraka
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Naraka

>>14456918
>am retard
Burning through your guests basically kills your chances to incline further than if you spaced them out.

Shit this whore looks hot in that Mean Girls style santa outfit

>>14456790
I do similar things with towa and koro"s 3d lives.

this is new

I'm quite surprised that Mori retained her 10k+ viewers and inclining slowly even with this event

>>14456837
>no JP chuuba does those
Bro, it is literally a meme in JP to wear a suit and white BG and do dogeza/list off your bad actions and beg for forgiveness, for how many Youtubers/celebs did it after cheating scandals
In the west, they wear pajamas and start crying

>>14456950
Oh it would definitely work with audiences.
But i don't know if other JP companies or chuubas would like to work with Matsuri after.

>>14457019
Hamilton is based

kek

>show new costume
>sudden incline
Amazing

>>14456840
HoloX doesn't have 3d yet anon.

>>14456840
When was this?

LOOK IT'S FROSTY

>>14456744
With the similar guests? See Mel's

>>14456205
it's subaru, that's probably what you'd expect from her.

she's a massive fan of western media too.

fbk is a surprise to overlap since she's often talked up as a supportive senpai but i guess not to other branches.

>>14457007
She and Roboco showed the outfits with at home 3D a couple of days ago, the one one's new tho.

>>14456918
Anon, it may not be reclining but the shape of her chart shows clearly a stagnation.

Here are the three gen1 concerts for comparison. This type of events are meant to continuously grow up until a high point, they're not supposed to stall in the middle

40k get.

>>14457032
Then they should do it, IF they patch things personally first.
haven't seen any chuubas do it in the last few years tho.

>40k

OH COME THE FUCK ON

40K get

>>14457044
They dont have to go all out. Just some basic things like making other's uncomfortable, breaking some hangout promises, being too forward, etc. you know, just standard girly stuff that's makes you think "aww she doesnt have to feel that bad."

>>14457137
nice sc anon

Did she just shill NeneTowaSuisei 3D live during her own 3D live? Matsuri may be hated by her fans but she's loved by the other Holos.

Friend is in a roll recently
>Say Fanfare, 9M views

>>14457189

>>14457137
I want to stick my dick in that reindeer

>>14457140
Then mild stuff like that she already did in the Zombie stream >14456837

Guess that's another idea to the list of
>Thing's Matsuri already tried this autumn but didn't have that big of an effect.

>>14457124
Vspo girls and CR guy did it during the smurf scandal, Hajime and Yumeoi did it after their suspensions, and there's probably others, otherwise vtubers don't tend to get into big enough yabs, otherwise they just tweet a written apology, or leave forever.

You know Matsuri is in trouble when she can't attract even negative attention.
This thread is very quiet and slow when compared with, for instance, Polka's outfit or even Haachama birthday live, both events with a lot of seething due to poor strategy.

>>14457124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXozNy4j9UM

This is just... sad

Remember the faggots saying Matsuri would win gold today?
Bet it's the same faggots that think the King only wins gold and not silver or gets beat by an ID

>>14457225
There's no tear tho, i want that shit in 3D with tears and hugs anon! then end it with a wholesome orgy!

>>14457244

>>14457238
The things that make matsuri unpopular don't matter to us

>>14457229
ok, you're not referencing the same things then, those are just apologies.
I meant a properly rehearsed apology arc spectacle. Redemption Arc.

>>14457217

this is how Matsuri inclines

>>14457252
anon... this is silver at best

>>14457252
I don't recall anyone saying matsuri would win.

We are Idolm@ster now

>>14457243
That was kino af. I literally jumped out of my seat when the music just kicked in like a fucking RKO

>Dec Watch Hours (1 Dec to 10 Dec):
FBK: 1.28M
Peko: 830k
Miko: 336k

>Q4 Watch Hours (1 Oct to 10 Dec):
Peko: 6.2M
Miko: 3.7M
FBK: 3.4M

>2021 Watch Hours (1 Jan to 10 Dec):
Peko: 31.8M
Miko: 15.6M
FBK: 9M

>Notes:
>Miko got 5th place for Q32021 with 4.8M
>Pekora got 4th place for 2020 with 14.6M
>1st, 2nd, 3rd place and 5th place for 2020 got 23.6M, 23.3M, 20.1M and 14M

What do you think, /#/?
FBK is probably more likely to chart on Q4 than Miko imo. Both are unlikely for the yearly top 5 however.
Keep in mind that Amouranth inclined in 2021 with probably 40-50M watch hours over the year, thus raising the bar for top 5 of 2021.

>Bonus: Today's watch hours
Peko: 105k
FBK: 85k
Miko: 69k

So, who would win today?

>>14457238
It's more like her anniversary again.
It's a fine spectacle and we're enjoying the dancing, singing, the show.
It's just bogged down by all the background drama.

Not much to get riled up about from the show and its numbers themselves.
Just depression of where Matsuri's image ended up.

>>14457337
There was several, a couple of threads back. But they also thought Amelia's outfit and this was not on the same day

>>14457371
Ame

>>14457287
I don't know what an apology arc entails, I listed people who opened a stream and spoke seriously about their accussations

>>14457371
Ame unless there's something on Niji side

Honestly the big problem with Matsuri is that she went full in on GFE and then does all that she does with apex and what not. Consider that Towa basically does more or less the same things when it comes to Apex and outside collabs but no one is blasting her for it.

>>14457306
I don't believer her anymore.
and neither do any of the hardcore gachis.

>40k viewers
>260k SC
>With THAT line up
kek

>>14457365
Welp just forget about your dream peko, the game is rigged

>Matsuri costume reveal
>38k
>Mori costume reveal
>89k
What happened, I thought EN was reclining?

Could have reached 40k or even 50k if she had spaced out the collab parts with a solo in between each instead of bunching all their parts together or moved them to the later half with the most popular Holos last.

>>14457390
So nobody with a brain then.

>>14457405
Exactly, it's not a fun spectacle that get people to like you again while also entertaining random audiences.
I meant more like the cheating trials, but somewhat more serious and with real-ish topics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km5db5eSaOE

Gura 11 hrs prior : 1020

>>14457479
She did reach 40k.

>>14457466
You forgot to mention the 46k decline between outfits and that Shion with half her subs got more than that a few days before.

>>14457479
She did reach 40k

>>14457547
Festival cope

>>14457547
>Shion
>literally every JP stopped to avoid overlapping
Kek I hope Mori overlaps every costume reveal from now on to mog the JP """senpais""", they don't respect her so she shouldn't hold back anymore

>>14457547
What is this narrative?

>>14457547
>half her subs
RatioCope anon will never cease to be funny

Yeah just bite all the fucking bait why don't you

>>14457433
It's more complicated than just that, Towa does some gfe stuff, she even does terrible asmr sometimes. Towa just has a different rep when it comes to external apex "diplomacy". As weird as it sounds , Towa just has a more "seiso" reputation, even with her yab.

>>14457585
Jesus we have a bit of fun at your expense and you'll never let it go eh

>>14457547
or that it wasn't a costume reveal for Matsuri
which i figured will tip everyone off that its bait

https://twitter.com/amanekanatach/status/1469653147773992964
Kanata postponed

>>14457526
>>14457567
Ah seems my youtube again got stuck in a view number, it was 38k for me at a certain point til the end.

>>14457466
u thought correctly it is recliing
mori couldnt even reach 100k whenpreviously she had way above that

Is Taiwan Vtubing reclining?

Linglan Lily only at 3.3k for a singing stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgG_pQYQQkY
Last i checked in, she was 6-8k for utau.

>>14457495
If Matuli did this for whatever drama she was in, she'd be anti-d to hell and back. This is just for lighthearted things.

>>14457632
Oh damn, poor Kanata and Sayuri.

>>14457713
that seems like her usual numbers to me, she's not a consistent 6-8k chuuba, she only gets taht for special events

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx49849Cnac

>>14457786
>removed by uploader
kek, what was it?

>>14457433
It all comes down to how each of them act. Towa is consistent, professional and approaches everyone the same way while keeping strong ties to the box despite spending so much time out of it. Matsuri is basically the poster child of menhera, treats people differently based on her personal aims and feelings and just about abandoned the box and a large amount of her fan base by treating them poorly. She's attempting to rectify her issues at least but it is difficult to regain that which was lost.

>>14457365
God I hate Amouranth and her fucking restreams. The only way Pekora or anyone else having a chance against her without doing restreams shit would be basically streaming every day for the whole year and doing 6 hours streams daily, and that's assuming like 30k average ccv hours.

>>14457786
>This video is unavailable

>>14457820
>>14457832
https://twitter.com/amanekanatach/status/1469653147773992964

>>14457820
I'm sorry everyone, my mother is sick and I'm coming to the emergency hospital, but I haven't come back for a while, so can I change it tomorrow?
I'm sorry for everyone and the bad people because of the urgent change. ..

>>14457864
>母の体調が
This has numbers potential, SC **and** CCV

Will Marine do a guerilla stream?

Rat Review started
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK8YFUy8ALI

Also, Yumeno Lilith outfit reveal stream
Her last one got over 10k but that was months ago and she was still relatively new, She's sub 500 viewers avg now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTErDLznTqQ

>>14457864
Oh, ok, that links to
>>14457632
Kanata's mother was rushed to the emergency room

post niji numbers

>>14457590
Mori losing 46k views between outfits and losing to Shion new outfit is not a narrative, it's a fact.

>Kek I hope Mori overlaps every costume reveal from now on to mog the JP """senpais""", they don't respect her so she shouldn't hold back anymore
I agree with you on that, fuck them for disrespecting Mori like that, but still a 46k loss is still a 46k loss.

>>14457632
Going by the gen5 schizos playbook this is clearly a play for sympathy since she is scared for the new generation.

>>14457365
i hope fbk charts Q4. it will be hilarious to see people's reactions to how if anyone looks into it.

BTW, Ame's costume reveal stream has been trending on YT for the last 4 hours at least

>#50 ON TRENDING FOR GAMING
【NEW OUTFIT】Shall we Party?

Marine is on minecraft lol.

>>14458005
i mean the no overlapping rule dosen't exist between id and jp so it was weird that en was(sometimes) following it

>>14458013
Sayuri saw the orca's monetisation stream and had a heart attack.

Shiranui Micra starting strong

>>14458033
Well I don't know exactly but I assumed the reason Pekora managed to make it there wasn't just because of high watch hours during streaming but high vod watched hours too.
I dunno if people watch the vods for those streams as much

>>14458092
>wasn't just because of high watch hours
It was. That particular ranking only counts live watches

>>14458082
Subaru finished her stream before Ame's outfit reveal and told people to go watch her, so there is probably no rule but it's the polite and correct thing to do.

Bae 10k get.

>>14457365
For reference, here's what they're against

>Q4 as of today
Sadummy: 3.78M
Pokimane: 3.73M

>2021 as of today
Pokimane: 19.7M
Sadummy: 19.6M

>>14458083
>1 week later
>Sayuri funeral stream
>Followed by bone picking live on cam
Number prediction?

>>14458090
Don't forget Miko
>23,697

Also FBK and Roboco back at the grind right away
>10,032 watching now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cXpRaixsyo

>>14458130
Damn. You know last quarter I was leaving VoDs of Pekoras playing while I slept

>>14458134
it is, but i am not surprised at jps not wanting to give up jp prime time

>>14458178
Oh god fbk again!?

>>14458172
Is Valkyrae completely out of the running for the Q4 top 5 btw?
She barely streamed for a while and isn't getting 20k anymore now, even with 6-10h per day of streams.

Uh, something's funny with Matsuri's live.

>>14458265
What is that?

>>14458304
Matsuri's live can only be viewed if you live in those four countries.

15mins after most stream starts and it's already 130k watching Hololive.
Will likely go even higher

The JP Primetime is bloody as hell

Suityan doing her best again

>>14458321
But I'm not there and I watched it