/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>>12125244
what manga

>>12125331
Trillion Game

Today's superchats

>>12125449
We know why Matsuri is at the top, but what occasion resulted in Axia being so high?

>>12125545
Birthday.
Matsuri's Apex gacha beating Nijimale bday is quite surprising actually.

>>12125449
>Laki Channel
Pretty sure this list is fake. Laki graduated on October last year

>>12125687
She came back. Some anon made a post about it last night but everyone ignored it lol.

>>12125687
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrLF2srZHa8

I am starting to think consistent silver medals is better than a couple of golds. It shows your consistent strength even if some random event pushes someone else over the top. I think we should ignore special events when determining daily winners.

>>12125747
OH SHIT, ISRAEL
Does she still have the same actress?

>>12125794
Consistent gold medals is still better than consistent silver medals lol

>>12125794
Then Hololive wins agsin because they also get silver, bronze, tin, copper, platinum, cobalt everyday as well

>>12125747
So, anyone watched her last night and her reason for returning? Is it because she failed the Hololive audition?

>>12125794
Why stop there, why not just ignore all Holomen while we're at it? retard.

>>12125794
>silver is better than gold when I get silver!

>>12125794
LMAO good thing there are anons that keep track of top 10/20 of the day and it's always just Kuzuha as the only Niji in the top 10 as #2.

>>12125946
Golds are usually stolen by special events. It's just a product of scheduling, not performance.

>>12126015
I said nothing about hololive you tribal.

>>12125794
Just look at the top winners that was able to win without special events. Nijisanji has exactly 0.

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 2021

1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.5k - Summer craft championship
19) Suisei (Hololive) - 83.5k - Outfit Reveal
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 26.4k - Minecraft
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 63.2k - Survival Island End Stream
22) Pekora (Hololive) - 32.2k - Minecraft
23) Hal (Indie/Merise) - 45k - Merise Announcement
24) Miko (Hololive) - 65k - Sportfes Announcement
25) Miko (Hololive) - 32.7k - Minecraft (Sportfes preparation)
26) Rushia (Hololive) - 30.4k - Umamusume gacha
27) Pekora (Hololive) - 50k - Minecraft (PekoMiko)

>>12125660
Well it's not that surprising, Axia already got $16k the previous day and isn't as popular as his red counterpart, while we all know the Matsuri special (by the way does anyone have an idea of how much of the money she spends on these streams?)

>>12125794
Only Kuzuha and Kanae gets silver everyday. That won't help. You have to say that everyone that is below top10 is a win but then again Holos dominate those too.

>>12126163
There is only two possible winner most of the time you retard.

>>12126141
Always being #2 is much more special than losing to Luna or Korone due some event.
>>12125948
The top isn't as hololive heavy as you're making it out to be.

>>12126169
>Just look at the top winners that was able to win without special events. Nijisanji has exactly 0
Kek
Tournament reliant company pls understand

>>12126312
>>12094948
>>12094977
Retard

>>12126312
Show me the numbers where a whole month is not dominated by Holos except August where koshien is a thing. Hololive dominates 80% of the top streams every week every month since last year.

>>12126189
Probably none, she saves up all the lootboxes that she gets from playing normally.
It's roughly $100 for 100 lootboxes

Who wants to place bets that this faggot just wants people to waste their time calculating if BS like
>The top isn't as hololive heavy as you're making it out to be.
is true and once someone does it, he'll ghost and show up again next week?

>>12126556
She actually did top up, and went too top up again but her card got declined, which is why she ended the stream before she managed to get what she wanted. There's going to be a 'revenge gacha' stream as a result, not sure when.

>>12126566
People visit numbers without actually knowing anything. They just spout BS. Nothing new.

>>12126566
nijibros still living in 2019 pls don't mind the bitter loser

>>12126658
She has a $100 limit on her card? That's so low.
>>12126669
It's funnier when you see screenshots from this thread on bait threads.

>>12126658
>There's going to be a 'revenge gacha' stream as a result, not sure when.
Was about to say $28k is a bit of a dropoff from her previous $40k, but this just means there's a 2nd part coming, which is ultimately the smarter move.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dGJ4BfRg2E
Atleast Polka's show is getting a Season 2. I am honesly amazed that Polka can afford to keep doing these show. She has a full staff for it. There is no way that Cover isn't funding at least half of the cost for these right?

https://youtu.be/0EtAMALkVU0
>Ayame
>OFAMS
Korone is shilling that Marvel game, so she can't join.
thoughts?

>>12125794
What kind of retarded cope is this?
Holos most of the time gets top1 of the day AND dominates Top10 AND have more streamers breaking 10k CCV
>>12126312
You must be new here, i suggest you look the previous threads before postingvyour idiotic cope

>>12126865
50k minimum

>>12126784
WTF she has Honhima as a guest on before any holomems.
>There is no way that Cover isn't funding at least half of the cost for these right?
I think holomems are richer than most of us think they are.
Polka makes a shitton of covers and original songs too, which aren't cheap.

>>12126774
No, her card got flagged for some reason, which is odd but hey banks would rather be safe than sorry.
>>12126784
To be fair, the show doesn't seem like it would take that much to make. She probably comes up with the script herself, and it's like 1-2 other people really needed besides Izuru. Seems like something that you could get done with very few man hours.

>>12126420
>Show me a month Holo didn't win
>except the month where Holo got absolutely mogged
Fucking Holofaggots man

>"special events skew numbers, maybe we should look into something more consistent to determine performance"
>hurr durf cop nijifaggerz lolololol
God you tribal fags are insufferable. I just want us all to have a better understanding than wanting at events with tourists.

>>12126936
Polka was rich before she joined Hololive. She was basically behind only Ai when she was at up8 iirc? On top of other stuff bubi haven't bothered going roommate diving.

>>12126936
I know they make bank but Polka is one of the least SCed. Maybe her spons money makes bank. She has had a lot of holos before. As content material or in an actual call before.

>>12126992
Read the thread retard. The retard wants to remove events. Koshien is pretty much a month long event. But even then Holos still dominated that month.

>>12126784
>>12126936
Hima is basically an honorary holo right with how close she is with the Hololive girls? Kind of the same situation with Kotone.

Are there any groups of content creators with similar style like Hololive (aside from Nijisanji of course), with each member being capable of entertaining a big audience by themselves but they become much stronger when they partner up with others and have interconnected storylines across continents?

For me, Hololive reminds me of the past stuff of Achievement Hunters, The Creature and YogCast. Is this why they are that popular now?

>>12126991
you won't post this had kuzu uno not overtaken by miko

>>12126992
The score was 17-13 that month you know that right ? If that is the definition of absolutely mogged then I don't know how you define this month.

>>12126936
you know theyre making bank when even fbk's artist can afford to donate 10million yen to her

>>12126991
We already have that with the medians and shit you retard.

>>12126658
If she does a part 2 soon she might even be the next to 1 million USD

>>12126950
There's a lot of people invovled in her show. Her end credits is 1min long. She doesn't do her won scripts as well. They even had a whole episode where her staff went out drinking just to come up with ideas. You obviously don't watch her. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-ZVCNkgyoI&t=41s

>>12127088
dream smp

>>12126991
Fine. If you're not being a retarded idiot..
Read the linked charts in this post.
>>12126403
Compare the CCV. That alone tells you what you need to know wrt who's pulling in more viewers in the regular. Spoilers, it's Hololive. Outside of Kuzuha, Niji main channel and Toya, NONE of the Niji's have high enough REGULAR numbers to crack the top 10 CCV between the two companies. One off events alone do not give you consistent numbers after all.

>>12126991
>I just want us all to have a better understanding than wanting at events with tourists.
That's what monthly medians are for, retard.
/#/ cares way more about medians than who wins the day, which gets forgotten by the next day.

>>12127166
Oh, that's what I get for ignoring credits like a retard, thanks.
Clearly it's a passion project that she enjoys doing and getting the staff involved.

>>12127074
It's not an event retard. Events are birthdays, concerts ,3Ds and/or new costumes.
Koshien is just a regular group collab. You faggots just want to set the terms where it seems like Holo is winning.

>>12127247
>koshien is regular thing
LOL. Revisionism at it's finest.

>>12127182
You say that now but you shits were clearly were obsessed and spamming when Miko happened to win at the 11th hour that one day.

>>12127247
>Something only done once a year
>Not an event
ogey

>Koshien is not an event
Ok this has to be the most retarded excuse on the Nijicope list. There's no way that's not a falseflagger

>>12126865
Ayame showing up for her monthly stream.

>>12127176
I don't fucking care about nijisanji. All I see is that some livers are the most constant.

>>12127364
>PekoMiko only collabs once a year
>not an event
Retarded Holofaggot logic

>>12127410
Who. List them all. Show their numbers.

>>12127435
it wasnt even planned miko literally just approached pekora during her usual minecraft stream and joined vc

>>12127391
Yeah he blew it...
Calling it a regular group collab is too braindead even for the most delusional nijifags

>>12127351
And it was forgotten by the next day.
Thanks for proving the point, retard.

>>12127435
They've collabed at least 4 times this year.

>>12127166
you have to remember, Yagoo personally wanted Polka.

>>12126992
>Holo got absolutely mogged
>January
niji: 12
holo: 17
others: 2

>February
niji: 8
holo: 19
others: 1

>March
niji: 11
holo: 18
others: 2

>April
niji: 7
holo: 22
others: 1

>May
niji: 4
holo: 26
others: 1

>June
niji: 5
holo: 25
others: 0

>July
niji: 13
holo: 17
others: 1

>August
niji: 15
holo: 13
others:

I'm surprised that Nijisanji has such a diehard fan in the EOP market.

>>12127622
>August
niji: 15
holo: 13
others: 3

>September
niji: 10
holo: 18
others: 2

>October >>12126169
niji: 5
holo: 20
others: 2

>>12127435
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/Fx1MgUhF6MU
https://youtu.be/P5N1munYDnI

Before you say more lies, Pekora and Miko were even grouped together for the teams portion of the Mario kart collab.

>>12127684
Shame they're all retards though.

>>12126992
>>12127090
it was 15 to 13
>>12070168
>August
niji: 15
holo: 13
others: 3
if winning by two is mogged, then explain this:
>May
niji: 4
holo: 26
others: 1

>>12127410
Yes, well that's the point isn't it? If you look at WHO are the ones in the top, they're also the ones that can often end up being the winners of the day without events (Kuzuha, Pekora). Winners of the day is just a fun little thing by itself, but it does reflect the overall numbers and trends as well, numbers notwithstanding. Those that do well without events will Timaru end up higher up on the medians list as they have more streams with good numbers overalls which muted the effect that events have on their numbers (medians, after all).

>>12127684
You don't have to be a Nijifag to be a HoloAnti.
Seriously doubt a real Nijifag would downplay Koshien as a "regular group collab"

>>12127845
Fair take, could be a seething 2view or someone who champions one of three smaller startups or VOMS.

>>12127106
honestly, it was probably a drunk tweet to show how thankful he was for Fubuki

>>12127845
There was that one random 774fag who said oshis are retarded.

The 'gold medal' guy must have really gotten under people's skin if people are keeping track of this worthless metric. Maybe he'll pay rent one day.

>>12127923
We know it was you

>12127923
Worthless Metric? We are in the numbers thread. CCV, Vod views, Subs, SCs, revenues, # of members and sponsorship all matter here.
Everyone has their opinion on which is the most important but all of these do matter.

If we remove events, who would have the highest CCV? Is it Gura legendary 120k unarchived Karaoke?

>>12128728
Still Koshien with 200k CCV

>>12128937
wouldn't that be Coco's graduation since it's just a giant collab?

>>12128728
Kuzuhas 144k apex stream

You guys think Gura 3D Debut can get 200k+?
And if Mori 3D Debut comes first can it break 150k+? (Mori is still in Japan right?)

>>12128965
>>12128937
Whatever.

Who has the highest non-event solo stream CCV? It's gotta be Gura karaoke.

>>12129090
No idea, since it will probably be in cover studio in JP then it will be in JP primetime so less EOP unless it'ssunday.

>>12129008
That's a tournament and he's playing with other people, it counts as an event and isn't a solo stream.

>>12129179
Tournaments aren't events.

>>12129206
You're just a newfag tourist aren't you. Get lost

>>12129206
It's still a collab since other people are in VC

>>12129156
That's what people said about Coco's graduation, but people still turned up anyway.

A properly hyped event will get people to reschedule stuff so they can watch.

>>12129156
I know Cover isn't exactly the brightest but surely they'll have it in EN Primetime.

>>12129328
especially if it is during the weekends

Since Kiara and Mori talked about new outfit, I'm pretty sure it will take place after Holo Sports Fes. This means Hololive might win November again if these outfit streams take place in different days.

>>12129156
well if the holoen girl can stream on morning time then sure they'll have it on EN primetime, but they're lazy so they'll choose JST primetime instead

>>12128728
Lulu's graduation got 187k
>it's an event
Not really, it was a zatsudan.

>graduations and tournaments are not events

I see people here are extra dumb today

>>12129156
Do they even do 3D debuts on a weekday?

>>12126169
28) Mio (Hololive) - xx - OFAMS

>>12129995
No one complains when someone used Coco's graduation for numbers but we can't use Lulu's. It is a double standard.

>>12130097
Don't fucking jinx it.

>>12130125
If it's single pov, then it'll win

>>12130101
Pople complains because dumbasses claim it isn't an event.
3D Debut, Birthdays, Debut, Graduation, Tournaments, Milestone Celebrations are all events.
You may also count major collabs as event depending on the situation (like Pekomoon 1st collab)

>>12127166
>end credits is 1 min long
Anon, those names are SC donators that she's thanking with a credits scroll.

https://youtu.be/Nkp8yXx1TFY
it's not fair

>>12130512
>62k
>960k
>940k
>1 mil
Guess the newest animation dropped significantly in views because of the 2 month gap, rip

>>12130097
No way

Also outfit reveals.

>>12130669
It's just fucking outfit, you only list this because holo got high viewership and niji get low viewership

>>12130754
wdym? The first outfit reveals are always major events.

Also sometimes they make it a relay, in which case it's definitely an event. Also i'm not the anon sperging out over Niji lol.

>>12130754
What are you on? Outfits are definitely an event, they get way higher viewership compared to usual.
Nijis gets lower viewership for those because they spam it.

>>12130906
>Nijisanji is so on the ball with making new outfits that they get lower numbers for treating their livers better
This is truly what they call suffering from success

>>12130975
It's just suffering

>>12130975
speaking of new outfits how much do vshojos get?

I think male-female collabs should be classified as an event. The recent Suisei Fubuki Roberu definitely falls under it.

>>12130975
>Nijisanji brought so many of their vtubers to the top 200 in the world that people no longer consider their debuts as events
They truly are suffering from success.

>>12131127
For Holos sure since it's so rare though it's not exactly a buff.
For Nijis depends really.

Is the K/DA song confirmed by Moona already?
Pop/Stars will definitely get bigger numbers than anything else by K/DA.

>>12126865
>OFAMS
I wonder if Cover has to pay Ayame fees just to convince her to stream or collab

>>12131393
all collab partners have to dogeza for her to even consider joining

>>12131304
It's most likely The Baddest. Whether it is a personal choice or POP/STARS being harder to cover with licenses or w/e, who knows.

>>12131393
She needs to get her League hours in somehow.

>>12131393
>pay
They wouldn’t be able to afford it. It is more likely to go like this
Mio to Ayame: “hey Ayame, wanna collab?”
Ayame: “I’m busy, I wish I was home, my feet hurt”
Mio: “I’ll bake you a delicious cake and massage your back and shoulders a little, then we can cuddle”
Ayame: “O-OK”

Then Cover pays **Mio** for succeeding at the task

>>12131477
>cuddle
WHORE

>>12125449
ANON OH ANON
YOU SHOULD BECOME A VTUBER!

>>12131437
Ok the cover art does seem to fit The Baddest.
Wonder if Madison Beer perms is that hard to get. I don't remember if there was some falling out or whatever with that.

>>12129122
Kuzuha's Koshien Stream

>>12129122
120k is definitely hard to beat.
It felt like an event though, despite it being "just an unarchived karaoke stream". It's not even her first one.

>>12131554
oh are they gonna translate the korean lyrics? Also didn't Moona covered Villain already? that one feature Madison

I’ll never stop kneeling to gacha, the bloody thing is catnip for nips

>>12131674
>oh are they gonna translate the korean lyrics?
I've seen some people saying that there's a chance because Mori's in the group but Moona's taking lead, so I'm gonna say probably not

>>12131689
Gods, these two always do competing rolls every time a new banner comes out. Considering the time and everything they always get 10k+ for the damn gacha stream they do.

>>12131630
It hit some kind of trending thing, because the number started to increase at an incredible pace until the point it got shadowbanned, at which point tens of thousands left. It was pretty clear a lot of people clicked on it randomly but didn't stay. Only time I've seen that for a vtuber. Even for Coco, as big as her graduation stream was, everyone who came seemed to have come on purpose and she only leveled off a small amount from the peak.

>>12131721
Past life Mori has done a Korean cover in a group setting from what I can recall. I don't think they need to change anything.

>>12128284
>and sponsorship
If only people were actually keeping track of sponsorships (and not just the holo ones)

>>12131723
That just their normal MC collab number

>>12131761
“Keeping track” is too strong of an expression when it comes to sponsorship (because there is no central database tracking it) but people post the ones that interest them and try to numberfag them if possible

>>12131761
no one is stopping you from doing it

>>12130101
The numbers for Lulu's graduation were rather pedestrian. Gura got more for a freaking costume reveal. Nobody really cared about Lulu's graduation as we saw the next day when Coco absolutely dabbed on Lulu.

>>12131834
Coco's graduation ruined graduation numberfagging. I doubt anyone can recreate that in Hololive unless you graduate Gura or an entire gen graduates.
Might not be a challenge for Niji though considering the tourists.

>>12131977
>Might not be a challenge for Niji though considering the tourists
Delusional

>>12132064
Yep I take that back, replace Nijisanji with Kuzuha or something instead.

>>12132081
Yes fellow nijibros, let's graduate Kuzuha so we can get the crown back. We will be the numbers kings again!

>>12131127
Weren't the Mori and Rikka collabs getting lower numbers than what Mori would usually get?

How much did Honma pay to be in Polka's show?

>>12131689
Polka Flare pairing always amazes me since it managed to bring both of their numbers up. Polka was struggling against Lamy but this pairing managed to revive Polka's momentum.

>>12132096
I don't think even graduating Kuzuha would get the numbers coco got, though ultimately it depends on the circumstances. The saga of Coco led to alot of strong feelings in alot of people, she wouldn't have gotten so many under different circumstances.

>>12127391
Well, then we HAVE to add that one to the list then

>>12132498
Their audience is 250k capped. Kuzuha graduation will get 250k or 280k max

A chuuba needs to make a really huge scandal for reasons to graduate to get anywhere near the numbers that Coco got. I don't really think Gura or Pekora would get those numbers if they decide to graduate for normal reasons unless Hololive audience grows a lot more when it happens.

>>12132443
Polka always had the potential. It's just the two early yabs in gen 5's career halt the momentum.

>>12131761
Speaking of that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Ler9r-TJY

>>12131477
Mio, can you do that twice per week?

2snacks gura animation demographics
https://twitter.com/2Snacks/status/1453457881366413312/photo/1

>>12132498
I don't know, if we graduate Kuzuha, Mito, Kanae, and Kenmochi at the same time we can still win this.

>>12132597
>the absolute state of youtube

>>12131977
>Coco's graduation ruined /vt/
FTFY

https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1453619319837892619
wait what?

>>12132361
She paid through discord seeeegggg

>>12132498
Well, just ask Kuzuha to say Taiwan numba one, here we go

>>12132631
What the fuck? Isn't that a community college or someshit? Why would Cover be collabing with a community college?

>>12132631
government reps paying off now you know why they are pretty restrict with covid shit.

>>12132631
Ah, the good old farming of students.

>>12132652
The bugs wouldn't care. Things only got so bad because Coco was american to them and the bugs loved hololive so they wanted all of it for themselves but felt really burned that Cover told them no.

>>12132669
https://studyinjpn.com/en/schools/3820/Tokyo-Communication-Arts-College
It's a vocational college. Cover is thinking long term, building connections to take new talent in areas they're looking to expand.

>>12132568
It's not just any huge scandal
You have to
- Be popular
- Not be in the wrong
- Have both corporate and fan support
- Make it to the fucking news
I personally don't think we will ever get another Coco saga ever again desu

>>12132709
They probably realized that they don't have money to train new talents like Niji, so they rather finding what already available

>>12132361
Man, I feel for Honma. She's one of those nijigirls who actually grinds and wants to expand her audience but she never really reached that upper tier that Lulu, and Lize did. I believe she's actually below Luna now from the chart that was posted a couple of threads ago. It's a shame since with Holos box-pushing she definitely would be a solid mid-tier Holo

>>12132443
The wonders of box-pushing and unity.

>>12132734
at least read the article first man.

>12132734
Ah yes training to be a vtuber. What insane talent nijis have produced right who just shook the vtuber world ? Right ?

>>12132734
Try again, you might get something relevant next time.

>>12132709
>>12132679
I'm gonna laugh if vtubing isn't part of Cover's range of products in 5 years.

>>12132734
Training skilled people cost money, the engineering department at my school was basically a vocational school for Lockheed Martin. Tons of businesses offload training costs on the government. We don't know the level of skill or positions Nijisanji "trains" for. This is obviously not for picking out new livers, this is for expanding the business as a whole.

>>12132742
Hololive will trade Matsuri and cash considerations to Nijisanji in exchange for Honma and one stream a week from Kizuku.

>>12132771
what ever school they partnered with is gonna be an otaku mecca then.

>>12132669
its just their usual helping the local community stuff. its not the first time.
>https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000386.000030268.html
>https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000410.000030268.html
>https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000467.000030268.html
>https://panora.tokyo/panora.tokyo/75999/HPC-index.html

>>12132804
Shit, I'd take it. Do it YAGOO! Do it before Festival turns into Ben Simmons!

>>12132769
and all it took was the right groo- teacher

>>12132771
vtubing will always be a part of cover's portfolio, its the IP farm to build everything else off of.

>>12132823
Ah. Well, that makes sense then.
>>12132597
Man...fucking YouTube, the animation is viewed primarily by 18-30 yearolds and gets marked as for kids...

What's up with YouTube and scuffed numbers?
I just watched some small indie with less than 500 subs
She was surprised at how the stream turned out today, with 1k total views, she showed the screenshot of her side of numbers
But on the viewers' side it only accumulated 500 views

>>12132856
it's the usual "drawn = kids", just see Haachamas bitch made lasagna that made it into YTkids

>>12132863
Eh that's not really all that weird, could be some watched then dipped out later only to be replaced by others who stayed for a while then left, then the cycle keeps going.

>>12132863
care to share a screen of this moment? or at least linking the stream

>>12132631
Based
I remember Bushiroad also doing similar thing, they are sponsoring the annual middle school and high school light music club national contest
And they ended up introducing a bunch of teenager talents last year

>>12132879
Hachaama's Bitch made pasta isn't animated though.

The real explanation is that Youtube works on black magic. And Hololive learned to harness this black magic to become the giants that they are now.

>>12132932
>Hachaama's Bitch made pasta isn't animated though.
No, but Haachama is.

>>12132908
I wonder if hololive's name will be tempting to young people. We know they make bank but the average person might not.

Hololive doesn't need more members, they need more everything else. They made $15 million dollars profit. That's bad.

https://youtu.be/HDgGnLYbaD8
KONAQUA!!!
( ^)o(^ )b

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDgGnLYbaD8

Onion stream coming up

>>12133015
>>12133012
why did she hide her likes/dislikes? anything happen?

>>12133026
chinks and apex retards, those are the usual suspects.

>>12133026
Translation says it's not a dark story, so it's likely not graduation.

>>12133039
Who suggested otherwise?

>>12133039
Who would title their graduation announcement stream as "[recent status report] uuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!"?

>>12133076
Ask /hlg/, not me.

>>12133147
get a name so i can filter you out

>>12133147
No one in /hlg/ talk about graduation.

>Sports Festival update
Moona won’t be able to attend full time or even stream because college exams.
She’ll still be captain and yielded the role of cameraman to
>IRyS
who will stream their POV.

How does that change your guys number predictions?

>>12133263
The PekoMoona buff will definitely not apply, the POV won't necessarily change that much.

>>12132631
>This project is a part of the "corporate project" to experience the same process as professional work and to improve the ability to be accepted in society as an immediate force, for 3DCG creator major and comic illustration major students, respectively, 3D animation production and It is a production contest (held from September 2021 to January 2022) that imposes challenges for Live2D model production. The submitted works will be judged by our 3D and 2D production team, and the excellent works will be commended, and the works will be exhibited at the school's graduation promotion exhibition.
So 3D and L2D contests for students? I can see that Cover will hire some prospects from there

>>12133298
holy shit, Cover is actually spending their money.

>>12133263
What team is Mori on?

>>12133346
According to Miko, the original plan is Red C

>>12133346
Red Team is supposed to have the most people who suck at Minecraft. So Mori's Red

>>12132587
>fps gamer
>not sponsoring ina
okay

What is it going to take for an EN startup to incline? Why aren't Prism, Tsunderia getting at least NijiEN numbers yet?

>>12133431
Its safer to pick someone in the same company they collaborated before than someone that they are unfamiliar with even if they got big numbers. Same reason square enix/capcom/cygames/tales hololive is their go to. So she should thank Yashiro for that.

>>12132734
It's easier to get art students from long time schools funded by a gov than a brand new "liver" school lol

>>12133444
Go to Twitch and band together. Create their own EN vtuber ecosystem completely separate from Hololive.

Can't compete with Holo's dominance over the algorithm.

Watching a clip from those startups just gets you recommended a ton of Holo clips, and most people just can't be bothered to clear those.

>>12132771
>>12132843
If Cover keeps going at their course, no yabes or anything, they might just monopolize the virtual talent industry in the future of online entertainment. Everything's going online nowadays and YT is helping them get new viewers.

>>12133584
Yagoo is playing the long con
1. start a "war" with China to get the people on your side(people's approval)
2. donate a bunch of money to government-related COVID things(government's approval)
3. ????
4. profit

>>12133623
that looks grim for the vtubing industry

>>12133618
kek, unless they join VShojo they would just face the same problem of the "first mover", but with them instead

>>12133702
it's much easier to break through as a streamer on Twitch than on YouTube

Peko and Miko pushing their respective reservations back and clearing the primetime for Roboco totsu

Maybe Roboco is taking the day? That would be funny

>>12133745
>it's much easier to break through as a streamer on Twitch than on YouTube
Mention 5 examples

>>12133749
Fucking pekomiko vs ofams. Just push it back to 10pm jst.

Rushia home 3D superchat prediction, the final call

>>12133781
25k

>>12133759
Nyanners
Ironmouse
ProjektMelody
Veibae
Froot

>>12133759
Haruka, Snuffy, Nimu, that globin chick, Bao, that C9 chick, etc

>>12133681
>looks grim
There's a timeline where Hololive didn't become where it is today and the vtubing industry is pumped full of niji talents because they have the monopoly. Every hour of the day, there will at least be 5 livers streaming on the timeslot. That's a grim timeline to me.

It's better to just take the whole thing slow, and pump a few vtubers every year for major corpos and let other companies build reps on their own to follow. Of course, Holos shouldn't collab with them kek.

This is going to be a bloodbath.

>>12134001
okfams delayed by 2 hrs

>>12133745
>easier to break through as a streamer on Twitch than on YouTube
>>12133759
>Mention 5 examples
>>12133834
>Nyanners
>Ironmouse
>ProjektMelody
>Veibae
>Froot
Not only these 5 had to grind for YEARS to get where they are now, at very least 2 of those owe their success to being known on other platforms first
>Nyanners on Youtube
>Projekt Melody on Chaturbate
If you were trying to give an example of "how easy" is to break through as a streamer on Twitch than on Youtube these are most definitely not good examples.

>>12133844
>Haruka, Snuffy, Nimu, that globin chick, Bao, that C9 chick, etc
I grant you Haruka and Snuffy and bao but not Nimu (it was hard as fuck for her to break through and took grind and luck) and "that C9 chick" which clearly is a literally who if you can't even remember her name

Bottom line is: it takes as much grind and luck and "right person in the right place in the right moment" to succeed on Twitch

>>12134012
>okfams delayed by 2 hrs
kek, and Pekora pushed hers one hour. Subaru just posted her reservation tho so

In one hour: Subaru, Miko
In two hours: Pekora
In three hours: OFAMS, Roboco

>>12134001
king now's your chance! Lots of overlap on holo big hitter today!!

>TRIBALISTS BTFO
Also, this 3D stream was sponsored by
>THE ARCHITECT

>>12132361
Now that I'm watching, it feels like Riku paid a lot

kek polka mentioned that one of hololive's good point is that managers actually do shit.

>>12134107
Not so fast, Kingo: >>12134084

Instead of overlapping they're positioning so the outflow will fall right into the next slot, boosting it

>Honma is going to continue being on Polka's show
NO, not like this. We're at war.

>>12134120

>>12134120
>>12134157
damn these leech kept on latch on

Looks like Honma is going to be a recurring collab with Polka for those Legend of Polka skits weekly, so much for "Cover is trying to kill Nijisanji by banning collabs"

>>12134120
That credit is super long

>>12134120
Tribalfagging should be for fun and not taken seriously

>>12134157
Suck it, Suisei and Polka WILL bring unity to HoloJp and NijiJp!
>>12134107
Your king is going to need to call on some reinforcements if he wants to win since the overlap was resolved.

Rushia opened very strong. Easy 20k?

>>12134194
Those aren't credits, those are the names of SC donators.

>>12134157
Honma, the new honorary HOLO in the future.

>>12134157
is it just me or did densetsu get better numbers than usual?

>>12134210
doubt it, lots of people already saw kanata's. these home 3d streams will only get lower as more holos do them

>>12134229
At least 2k more than usual catching it live, it was usually in the 3k-4k ballpark near the end of the first season.

>>12134193
>Cover is trying to kill Nijisanji by banning collabs
Those comments are usually for the EN branches, only a retard would say that for the JPs when you often see collabs between them, be it Polka, Fubuki, Matsuri or Suisei just to mention the first ones that come to mind.

>>12134219
>niji adopts Hal, Kson, chuuba with numbers
>holos get Honma
just remember if honma wins a day, it'll be holo numbers

>>12134208
Well NijiJP Girls are actually welcome for me (i do watch Chihiro and Ars).
What i hate is NijiEN, NijiMales and Polka(for being the 1st JP Kronii got close to)

>>12134229
yeah, poruden just need some guests to boost its number

>>12134290
Flare doesn't collab with her sisters. Polka even brought her up. Management will force Flare to do it.

>>12133855
nah I want vtubers to be more independent or at least more decentralized. Monopoly is really soulless

>>12134307
I'm genuinely curious but why do you hate them?

>>12134024
it's impossible to break through on YouTube as a streamer only.
If you can't create content, you better go to Twitch

>>12133431
Ina is way more expensive to sponsor

>>12134344
Because of the fanbase actually, lots of dramafags and what's worse is they're not just in 4ch.
NijiEN is contained since its only here but "selenfags" are really annoying.
Also i would've love Kronii to have interactions with Peko, Miko, Shuba and Aqua but Not Polka

>>12134334
There are 16k vtubers right now. It isn't any of the corpo's fault that their chuubas are successful. That's actually their point. Blame yourself and all of the other people that aren't watching the rest. There are so many of them. Small corpos pops out every month as well. Not just indies. There isn't some big corpo lobbyist that is holding YT hostage so that all viewers funnel down to big corpos. You crazy.

>>12132587
>>12134399
They're competing with the Bushiroad version so it makes sense I guess.
Obviously they just looked at numbers, Selen over Elira for a vocaloid rhythm game?

rushia inclining

>>12134435
Polka is really entertaining and knows how to have conversations flow. Say what you wants but she's really clever. I will not stand for this.

>>12134436
???
I'm talking about a future where Cover holds the monopoly and I think that's grim (of course that may or may not happen)
What's your point?

I told you guys about the “Ark debuff”

>>12134507
Didn't Ark used to be a big buff for them?
Or do their audience only care about Apex and tournaments now.

>>12134494
The viewers inclining more like.

>>12134507
They need mental breaks. Come on, they're good earners, give them a break.

>>12134498
This whole game of vtubing is all about CCV. Viewership and Following. Which means ALL influence are driven by the people that consume it. You cannot take true monopoly over viewership. If that was the case then all of the corpos and indies would be dead or soon to be dead but numbers suggest that business is thriving so much so that we have 16k vtubers now indie or otherwise. Even freaking affiliated tech related to them have risen in demand and many are coming from traditional and self-taught. This is like saying Machinima will take over YT but clearly it didn't. The only thing you can really hold are actual products and basically removing the potentiality of other people from using others. That is true monopoly. Cover does not have the power to do that. Use a different term.

>>12134527
It was a big buff because there was big wars and factions and intrigue and shit, storylines all over the place. I haven't been watching their new ark stuff but I haven't heard of anything like that happening.

>>12134537
>They need mental breaks
Play slither.io then. Good for a break and good for numbers

>I support Hololive as a whole
Honma is a good girl...

>>12134595
Riku told her to say that. Praise Hololive and viewers will try to watch you. It's that easy.

>>12134595
i can feel nijiautists going for her because of what she said during that ep, if polka said the same but for nijisanji holoautists would come for her as well

>>12134575
>they might just monopolize the virtual talent industry in the future of online entertainment
that's the original post

>>12134024
Go fuck yourself Holofaggot, Hololive had to grind for years on NND and Youtube too, therefore the VShojo girls do count as examples on why it's easier to breakthrough on Twitch

>>12134595
Girl has good taste, favourite being the number bunny.

>>12134617
Riku and Yagoo should collab. I wonder how it will go since Yagoo is in his 50s and Riku just finished middle school.

>>12134595
Honma... Just graduate already and join Gen6. You may not become 1st string but being a solid 2nd string in Holo is way better than being just another Nijimale cocksleeve....

>>12134595
Her next stream is going to have a lot of dislikes.

>>12134193
Imagine if Honma were a recurring collab partner for Pekora instead - we'd probably finally have Niji mogging the shit out of Holo every month

>>12134595
kek, of course now you gonna support hololive for sweet number and potential promo nijibegggar

>>12134219
You mean Polka the honorary Niji

>>12134682
Nah, Honma is honorary Holo by now. You can have Festival tho.

Rushia's stream shows that Kanata's numbers yesterday can mostly be contributed to the novelty of 3d at home. Not that surprising I guess, loads of tourists for the first but not for the following with a similar concept.

>>12134639
The whole schtick of vtuber for a long time is short video uploads, and after that streaming game/talk/karaoke, something that twitch lacks a great deal and you're saying it's easier to breakthrough on twitch.

>>12134595
where were they during the west taiwan yab?

>>12134617
>>12134618
>>12134648
>>12134661
>>12134664
https://youtu.be/7dGJ4BfRg2E?t=468
she definitely said some controversial things and probably get attacked by retarded nijifag
>>12134687
bro, I don't even watch niji

>>12134626
Again. They cannot hire everyone. They won't even debut a gen every year on time. They only really do contract with many artist but as far "monopolizing" was never a thing. Alot of their artists have different children outside. What you can only debate with is that their talent will get a lion's share of the views in the future which really not that much of difference from what is happening right now. Broaden your perspective because it seems you don't understand that vtubing which is by extension streaming is not something you can "monopolize" The better argument would be the possibility of Youtube monopolizing streaming by cutting their cut to 10% or something but I doubt it.

>>12134661
the cultures of Hololive and Nijisanji are too different at this point. She may prefer Niji culture

>>12134721
Number + sponsorship > Culture

>>12134595
>holo suffers from west taiwan
>everyone stays away
>holo continues to perform well
>everyone now friendly

Pekora playing Judge Eyes, it probably takes her out of the contest of #1 today.

>>12134763
Backstabbing bitches. It's a good thing nijimales can't collab with Holos.

>>12134721
Her streams is not that different to what a regular Holo except for the Male collabs but then again nobody will care if they knew from the beginning that it's her. Nijiautists though will have a problem with her switching sides. You just can't do that in a graceful way.

someone start tracking Hima's sub count. I want to know if collabing with a holo will give nijigirls a boost or not

>>12134788
Anything big happening on the niji side? If not, Mio might win the day.

>>12134718
You're too autistic.
I'm just replying to a post in that context. You shouldn't care if you're not the original poster

>>12134807
Why would it. This isn't the first time a niji has collabed with a holo.

>>12134802
Imagine if she pulls a Luna and then starts becoming more successful in her new persona.

Nijiautists would seethe.

>>12134807
socialblade

>>12134802
Why is this even a discussion? Her comment was "if she was fired", she wont be fired from Nijisan. It's a pointless subject.

>>12134844
they don't even have to be successful, just look at Gibara

>>12134802
Hololive has a very strong male debuff though. Her numbers may suffer if she collabs with men too much

>>12134844
honestly, that will definitely happen knowing hololive's track record. bring Lulu to gen 6 as well for maximum seethe

>>12134879
I don't know about that. Towa seems to be doing fine.

>>12134879
Numbers? graph? trend? oh wait, you are a nijinigger

I don't think pekora will even break 20k today.

>>12134854
But she slapped Riku in front of bullypanda.

Cover is such a black company that Polka would rather associate with Nijis rumao

Get fucked Holofaggots. Muh unity and family narrative in shambles

>>12134788
I guess she's going back to do side content, wonder if she's going to get paid for this one too.

>>12134940
She have an hour to get to 20k before OFAMS starts.
it'll be hard since Miko is playing minecraft and subaru is also streaming

>>12134844
Well holo female is better in any metric rn, her pulling a Luna is good for her

>>12134927
>>12134895

nijisanji is suck a black company they are being cancelled right now, Honma would rather collab with a holo

get fucked nijiseanigger

POOR POLKA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dGJ4BfRg2E 4 min 40 sec in

>MOGGED BY PEKOCHAN

>>12135013
So she still have the same amount of views AFTER collabing with a man.

>>12135044
Do we know if her member count went down?

>>12135023
Holy SHit, shameless Niji isn't even satisfied with Polka. She prefers the Number Rabbit herself

>>12135023
look at this fucking leech
>Pekora
>#1 holo streamer

>Holo niggers counting today as a win
Not a chance. That collab will be lucky to hit 20k

>>12135023
you know you can right-click on the video and link that moment, right?

>>12135013
So she still retain her number even after collabing with male, fbk strong

>>12135023
newfriend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n9-4VzF_84

>>12135023
Fucking leech, the sames goes for Matsuri on Hoshikawa's ass

>>12135044
but the many won't watch her streams that have a man in it. And remember that Fubuki doesn't collab with men as frequently as a typical Niji female

>>12135073
I think you're underestimating the absolute power of AYAME!!
When Ayame streams, she even mogs Pekora.

Not as worse as kuzuniggers getting cucked for 5 straight days

>>12135023
>Honma is a numberfag
no wonder this thread likes her

MikoxSubaru....

>>12135113
Fuck you king will reclaim his throne just you wait!

>>12135091
https://youtu.be/TWp01Dx82F4
to all the newfags, they've known each other for a long while now.

>>12135136
Why would he need to reclaim his throne when he's already sitting on it?

>>12135071
That's not Marine

>>12135098
The discussion is how it affects the talent's retention over-time, and no issue happened. Niggers & tourists likes to make a big deal, more than the actual fans

>>12135103
Not in collabs.
Holoshins shouldn't count their chickens before they hatch or you guys will be the brunt of grudge posting.

>>12135136
He's the #1 male vtuber in almost every day. So yeah the King title still belongs to him

>>12135163
Marine does get higher CCV but Pekora streams almost everyday and gets consistently great numbers.
Also, if they're together in collabs Pekora mogs Marine

I tried watching Honma after that Polka thing. Jesus, niji's chat is so different compared to hololive's. their commenting rate is a lot slower, chat is less green, and no superchat flying across the chat every other minute.

>>12135209
That's cool and all, but Marine is still #1 even by your standards

>>12135178
Ok thanks for the reminder.
Nijifags learned that lesson the hard way lmao
Kuzuha got mogged 5 times in a row lmao

>>12135172
I remember 1 of the 3 important reasons why Pekora's Apex stream got so many dislikes was because her fans afraid she will collab with men. So holofags do care about that

>>12135178
Naw, we're well behaved. No one grudge posted when the day was called for Kuzuha but Miko took it at the very end.

>>12135216
so what? The fans still buy the merch
merch>SC

>>12135260
the guy was just saying it felt different anonchama...

>>12135260
Don't say merch when you want to falseflag, say "voice packs"

>>12135233
So you are a clipfag, tourist and a seanigger at that.

>>12135233
Really? i thought it was just apexfags angry and also nousagis not wanting pekora be addicted to apex
>>12135223
I would've considered Marine as #1 but getting mogged by Pekora in collabs proves Marine is still 2nd fiddle

is shuba really gonna beat miko in minecraft?

>>12135308
She started a couple of minutes before and both are still clearing the "AI check" queue.

>>12135276
different = worse
at least in my head

>>12135292
>Really? i thought it was just apexfags angry and also nousagis not wanting pekora be addicted to apex
He did say 1 of 3

>>12135330
you need to take your meds if you're feeling that way

Strong couple of days for Hololive, with EN pulling their weight on the "10k+" streams
>pic related

>>12135401
with how stable things seem right now, i guess we wont be seeing gen 6 anytime soon?

>>12134788
>Pekora playing Judge Eyes, it probably takes her out of the contest of #1 today.
It depends on how high the competition gets today. She even got #1 with the game on on occasion (>>12126169)
>17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes

>>12135373
>he doesnt know

So what's the current top stream for today anyway?

>>12135461
That got the ending buff plus it became a waiting room for the cancelled schedule of Summer Craft. Peko is just cleaning up the remaining sidequests in the stream later.

>>12135461
Dude she already finished the main story. No way a side quest get alot of viewers.

>>12135456
>he doesnt know

>>12135456
that's the smart thing to do. you don't want your girls to cannibalize each other. you want them to prop each other up and elevate together since it's mutually beneficial

>>12135461
the fuck is she still doing with that game? She already finished it last stream
>>12135499
gura dbd 24k, so far

>>12135461
>does side quest
>paid by SE

>>12135544
wait really?
I mean, she is not winning today but let's gooooo

Wtf? Why is Subaru beating the Top 2 of Hololive in minecraft at the same timeslot?

>>12135461
That stream was the final stream of the main story of the game, those kind of streams always gets a higher peak regardless of the game. This stream she is completing side missions she skipped before.

>>12135568
Is it still sponsored? I hope it is.

* 7PM Nijisanji streams *
I wonder if the King will rest for the day

>>12135523
Still, I really do want to see Gen6 sooner rather than later, if only to finally get Gen 5 some actual kohais (and no, other branches don't count)

Wtf is that subaru drop.. Lost 2k

>>12135582
King... stream onegai... Don't let hololive just win...

>>12134664
she didn't get too many

>>12135582
Current slot numbers. Things looking very calm on that side of the divide

>>12135565
Rarity factor and usually watching Subaru in minecraft is like watching a lost puppy dog, confused, somewhat nervous and highly entertaining.

>>12135582
Sasaki is midget now? Holy shit

>>12135565
>Wtf? Why is Subaru beating the Top 2 of Hololive in minecraft at the same timeslot?
KEK

>Not so fast, Shubafags

Suba and MIko currently in prank fight, so they will get an easy 5k boost each probably.

>>12135611
The first 2 rows of nijis combined have less viewers than Miko and Subaru combined right now.

>>12135638
unfortunately, you'd have to check again

>>12135638
Both at 20k now migopi!

>>12135611
Not a single one above 10k

oh shit VC

owari

>>12135582
Looking at that pic, It's weird that for the supposed 2nd best vtuber company in the world, out of 20 streams excluding gwelu, Nijisanji does not have a single 10k CCV right now.

>>12135686
Its cool to see but i think Gura will take the day with a mere 24k

vc + sportfest + minecraft combo buff too strong

>>12135683
>unfortunately, you'd have to check again
Huh? You were saying?

>>12135725
No okfams will win the day

>>12135585
I want to see Lamy as a senpai as much as the next guy but if Yagoo doesn't think they need it, then I doubt they will release any information regarding gen 6. Although I do think they have a list of possible candidates already.

>>12135725
Mio will get more than 24K.

>>12135717
VShojo even looks better now

>>12135725
OKFAMS collab and there is ROFLMAO premiere coming so they might stream as well.

>>12135733
no ko'one there

>>12135741
>VShojo even looks better now
No they don't, neither in the average no in the peaks

>>12135749
ayame alone would get more than 24k in a good timeslot

>>12135733
>>12135736
Nope. Gura wins. Mio's little collab will not beat 24k.

>>12135741
HAHAHAAHAHAHA

>>12135749
With only Ayame and Subaru it should beat 24 k.

>You all disconsidering Roboco Totsu for the win
You'll see!

>>12135785
>migo at 23k and climbing
ticktock, well 24k isn't that hard for JP anyway

>>12135785
I know you love gura but come on she wont win. Even miko is at 24k right now.

>>12135811
I don't think this counts because Subaru came in.

Subaru and Miko among them have more viewers than entirety of Nijisanji right now.

>>12135847
total CCV cope anon where are you???? aaaaahhhhhh

>>12135811
Thanks to Youtube's retarded algorithm that favours JP CCVs and cuts EN CCVs drastically.

Man, I know it's blogposting but I really like browsing /#/ during JP primetime. Reminds me a little of old /sp/ with a bunch more schizos.

>>12135880
Cumbud cope lmao

>>12135880
Don't start the HoloEN vs HoloJP timeloop.

>>12135785
nahodo.

>>12135883
>nostalgia
you are getting old anon, enjoy your stay

>>12135915
>HoloEN vs HoloJP
Is Niji losing?

Prediction of next Gura's 1M VOD ? (current videos)
PUMMEL PARTY : 989,135
BIRTHDAY PARTY : 974,397
JUMP KING : 937,987

>>12135918
nye

>>12135931
None of them have 10k+ CCV atm.

>>12135872
Himawari Honma, come to holo jp6, did you see those sweet sweet 5 digit number? It could be yours!!

35CHADS win again

Any predictions on Pekora's Numbers tonight?
She'll play Judge Eyes side-quests while overlapping with Subaru MC and MikoMC.
OFAMS will also start in an hour after her so she is sandwiched

>>12135843
gura cope