/3/ - 3DCG

>>633892
maya is not great for modelling

>>633892
C4D.

>>633892
I really h8 modeling in maya, if you aren't doing animation it isn't worth it

>>633898
>>633901
is 3dsmax an good alternative? maybe some other programms?

Honestly i would just use both, create your models in and skin rig and animate in maya, max modifier stack completely shits on maya in terms of creating models but i can straight out tell you one thing, the whole skinning process of max is the most outdated garbage piece of crap you'll ever see, unless you can afford a third party skinning and tool like bonespro or deltamush stick to maya for skinning rigging and animating

>>633847
>BlazBlue is actually sprites drawn over 3d models
Ah. So it's postwork? Well, okay, I can do that anyway.
>Guilty Gear Xrd
And by the looks of that it's clever shaders for each pose of animation?

>>633841
>toon shader
and they all suck in my experience, not flat at all in the sense that I mean. "Subtle removal of the z-axis somehow" is more what I'm aiming at.

>>633850
Guilty Gear Xrd's method of modelling has been very well documented, Arc Sys had a talk on how they do it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhGjCzxJV3E

>>633852
Aha! thank you.

>>633852
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhGjCzxJV3E
The autism and awkwardness in the Q&A part at the end is unwatchable. Why are there always only colossal dweebs in the audience?

I bet 90% of the models created were actually not made in blender.

>>633905
He said it was

>>633905
>this betrays my narrative therefore it musn't be true
To give you the benefit of the doubt though, he does say that he uses ZBrush along with Blender (probably for sculpting more organic forms). But Blender's modelling suite is arguably one of the strongest among the various 3d software, so I don't see why you'd think that Blender can't do all that modelling.

>>633905
"I worked on the cinematics and the posters for “ Super Smash Bros for Wii U”. I was lucky enough to get to work on Pikachu, Pikumin, Charizard and Link.

All the character were made entirely in Blender, even the texture painting and shape keys. After that, they were exported into Maya and rendered in Vray.

As for games, Dark Souls 3 was the most formative experience. In fact, I worked at FromSoftware for a year with a great team and we built up the game in a really short amount of time, considering that the pre-production was longer than the production itself.

I had the luck to work on a lot of characters, using Blender even though the pipeline was 3ds Max. When you have to work on characters that have a lot of props and parts, you need to pick your software and develop most of your character inside it, because importing and exporting all the parts for every retake is a waste of time."

>>633828
Doesn't look that great to be completely honest with you. Would look out of place in Dark Souls 4 cinematic.

>>633821
keyshot, toolbag and sometimes vray

>>633821
How do you get that halo effect?

>>633821
Vray, though Arnold would be my second choice for sure

>>633907
>Keep projects short so you can do more of them, and don't agonize over shit, call it "good and done" and move on to the next.

I wish I had this advice framed on the wall years ago. Falling into that habit of perfectionism spiral is way too easy. Same applies to 2D art.

>>633818
For modeling I started out with VisCorbel's furniture modeling tutorials (just get them off CGPeers, I don't think they're being sold anymore), then Grant Warwick's Hard Surface Essentials video on Vimeo (IIRC he has released a full course since).

Although somewhat oldschool, the methods in Grants video in particular are pretty much everything you need to model 99% of hard surface assets, after that it's all down to how much you practice. I did pic related about a year after I started.

>>633819
What's a good youtube channel on max?

>>633920
But those videos are 8 years old. Wouldn't it be confusing for newbies to watch tutorials on outdated software?

>>633927
The modeling toolkit in 3ds Max hasn't really changed all that much within that time. All of the techniques used in those videos still work, and I still use them all the time.

Out of all the things that were added to the 3ds Max modeling toolkit since 2010, the only one that I commonly use is probably quad chamfer, and even that one doesn't really change the way I work, it just speeds things up a bit.

>>633826
you have to be 18 to post on this board

Another proof that /3/ is for waifus.

The board would certainly not have been the same without your services

>>633837
Buzz off ziplock, the 3d artists are at WORK.

>>633965
You get paid for shitposting on /3/? Where do I sign up?

oNE

Maybe go and look at freelance websites and get depressed how low some pajeets are willing to work for.

Typically I provide an estimate for how many hours I think it'll take me to complete a task. Forces me to setup a timeline and let's the customer know where all the hours are being spent if there's multple stages to the task (modeling, texturing, rigging, animating). In terms of rate, that's really going to depend on the client. Do some research and e stalk them for an idea of the potential funds they may have. Your client could be a VP at a tech company, or some kiwi with barely a dollerdoo to their name. Just make sure it's higher than minimum wage. No one will respect your work if you're charging them $8/hourly.

>>633812
>>No... no. Stop - I'm allowing myself to get dragged into a software bitching thread. I don't do that shit. That's for kids and bush-league assholes.

Looks like you did

>>633814
not OP but it would look better in UE4

>>633812
> imagine missing the point THIS hard

>>633812
> how about I do both?

Why would you need to render out images in Unreal AND in Marmoset Toolbag? What do you get out of TB that you couldn't get out of Unreal?

The biggest advantage of using an actual engine to showcase your art is showing that you know how to integrate your work into an actual system, along with all the difficulties that entails.

> the narrow-mindedness of this shit

Not an argument

>>633814

He literally linked the project they were for in the description, which is in Unreal.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/JBbzR

>>633807
Should probably use Unreal, since it's easier to get nice looking renders out of it.

>>633765
Gib more tips pls

>>633686

I'm a blender professional.

>>633703
so, raking in the big patreon money or just NEETbux?

>>633699
I'm sure at least some of us get money for their 3d works and that's the definition of professional

>>633705
>making 3D porn is "professional"
>sucking off strangers in an alley is also "professional"

wew

>>633734
yeah and considering artists are not really far from back alley whores(at least that's what my grandma tells me ever since she discovered I am going to be an artist, she said I will end up poor, living under bridge and pleasing old men with my body and I trust my grandma but I want to be artist anyway) this argument is even further reinforced

>>633605
did you made this with mouse and keyboard?

>>633607
Thats not mine lol

>>633605
I keep hearing all sorts about this 'Sculptris Pro' jazz and I'm still in the dark.
I'm still on 4R8 so I dunno what the deal is - it sounds like it's replaced Dynamesh or at least radically overhauled it.

But to answer OP's question - yes; Dynamesh was/is a core Zbrush feature. But no, the workflow is still gonna be the same:
Import polygon basemesh > convert to dynamic hi-poly object > sculpt > refresh dynamic hi-poly when necessary.

Whatever the process for creating and refreshing that dynamic object happens to be, doesn't alter all the other stuff that tutorials contain about sculpting etc.

Take all that with a pinch of salt though because as I said, I don't know much about the new features. They sound cool though.

>>633607
Is that how you get the look in OP? I don't understand.

>>633654
First, I'm not the guy who made the mesh. Abysmal or not, I'm learner too, so any work is of some interest to me. You absolutely failed to provide any reasons why all works should be dumped in a single tread, where all feedback will limited to a be single random post, before it will be overwritten by another work. /3/ is dead board. Most of the content on it is shit anyway. Threads on page 10 are currently 20 days old. The only board which is slower is fucking /po/. There is absolutely nothing wrong if threads on /3/ will die 25% faster, because they will still be around for fucking forever. So fuck off with your control issues. What we actually need is some containment threads for software shitposting.

>>633736
>You absolutely failed to provide any reasons why all works should be dumped in a single tread
Are you fucking retarded? The reasons are in this very post you answered to.
If every stupid cunt who has nothing to show starts a new thread we have tons of them without any form of order.
The WIP thread is there exclusively for showing what you are working on and to get criticism.
Like on EVERY FUCKING 3D FORUM it is channeled into one place so that it isn't everywhere.
You are right about the software shitposting, but like OP these trolls deliberately do that in a new thread.

>>633736
>. You absolutely failed to provide any reasons why all works should be dumped in a single tread
Because no one will give you attention on your special thread and your work will be ignored as a subject of honest criticism.

>>633753
Exactly.
You can't demand attention from the people, you are not fucking entitled to get anything.
Good example is this thread. Not one single constructive criticism, only negativity.

>>633736
If you can't understand why it would be a hassle if EVERY wip had its own thread, then you just don't belong here.
>all feedback will limited to a be single random post,
You're such a fucking newfag piece of shit, please stop posting, you don't even understand how this simple website works.

Just got a houdini 6.5 crack from there a week or two ago. This week i've had my computer just lose power twice.
Think they might be connected?

>>633649
more likely your PSU is dying

>>633646
bonus tools have curve to tube mesh operation which does that in one click

>>633649
>Think they might be connected?
Your computer lost power, so, obviously, the circuit was open at some point. Duh.

blender has a modifier for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwgDXP9lG_I
about the 10:10 mark

>>633737
I don't enjoy it, i would enjoy being able to afford all of it (together with coke, hookers and a nice yacht).
The sad truth is, i don't.
But i also don't earn a single dime with it, so it doesn't really feel bad.
>>633754
You are right, but once you start a serious collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can.

>>633469
bills?

Blenders sculpting is catching up with zbrush at an astonishing rate. It'll probably be BETTER than zbrush by the end of next year. And pixologic knows this, which is why they're adding in all sorts of gimmicks, gave a new naming convention ("zbrush 2018" lol) and are constantly offering discounts. Zbrush is dead software walking.

>>633961
Oh the delusions...

>>633711
installing mari is worse than deciphring the davinci code, still to this day i couldnt install it. hope future realeses make it easier to install. vegas 14 was a piece of cake compared to previous versions

>>633854
forgot the pic
>pls help

>>633863
open your move tool settings and reset it. Looks like the vert is only being moved along the edge.

>>633868
wer can i find that???

Are these courses just memes? I want to get better at hard-surface and topology to make aircraft, but wanted to get /3/'s opinion/input on it first, especially if anyone here has experience with these courses. Is there a best or worst among these? Are there better alternatives?

>Linda
https://www.lynda.com/Blender-tutorials/Welcome/606041/671483-4.html

>CGCookie
https://cgcookie.com/course/introduction-to-hard-surface-modeling

>CGMasters
https://cgmasters.net/training-courses/hard-surface-modeling-in-blender/

To me, the CGMasters and Linda tutorial seem like the best ones. I would like to eventually be able to retopologize stuff for real time use, but that's kind of a secondary thing, since I'm not much of a game developer. Being able to 3D print my stuff is more important to me.

How long should it usually take for someone to make a AAA standard character model?

I know this is going to vary by a lot but I just need ball park figures so I can set reasonable deadlines for myself.

>>633457

You just have to bite the bullet and do zbrush 16 hours a day for two years to get good at character.

I did it, everybody I know who is good did it.

Now I can make semi living money from characters.

>>633462
I'll look into Redbead then. I'm trying to refine my sculpting skills.
>>633560
I kid you not, since making this thread I've been doing nothing but practicing sculpting principles on blender.
>inb4 pleb tier
I know, I'm saving up.

>>633506
Thanks for the tip. This'll be useful for sure.

>>633560
Gotta wonder, whenever these posts say "12+ hours a day" it's definitely some sort of an exaggeration, right? It's not like everyone's a neet who has that much time to fill everyday, and working for such a prolonged period of time everyday is gonna burn you out within at most two weeks, yeah?

...or am I just NGMI?

>>633596
Considering how many professional modelers and animators aren't autists and have actual lives, I'd say you're good

>>633429
Nice forehead

>>633429
>what do you guys recommend?
I recommend posting in wip threads, instead of making your own thread
>>631918

>>633467
I recommend you to fuck off

>>633429
Another idiot who can't read.
>>633492
And is an arrogant bitch. Good luck with that.

>>633357
d̶o̶n̶u̶t̶ ̶m̶e̶m̶e̶ ̶m̶a̶k̶e̶r̶
proper 3d software

>>633357
>morphs
>witchcraft
pleb

>>633357
Someone who actually learned how to do their job and do it well. It's not surprising you wouldn't understand, OP.

>>633357
Don't tell me you can't do this in blender. This is literally first-year stuff we learned using Maya.

>>633403
You can. OP is just a retard who doesn't know much about 3D or the fact that this is actually some basic shit.
Just because the guy in OP's video mastered the basics, doesn't mean they aren't still basics.

op here. i’m gonna use maya because honestly, 3ds max just scares me. it’s too weird

probably making the wrong choice. maybe a modeler who uses maya could make me feel confident with my choice

>>633555
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qmimcB3wgF0
also, this video is convincing me otherwise. specifically, “no one software is better. just different workflows”

>>633555
Just remember to delete your history, center pivot and freeze transforms.... every 30 seconds.

>>633555
Try using both for like a week each, then come back and tell us how you really feel.

>>633667
i've been modeling for 2 years now, in Maya and Cinema 4d.

>>633572
fuck off. 3ds max doesn't even have image planes

I don't even know why they had to CGI for this because it's what you can get by merely walking the streets of London or LA with your camera turned on. Just need a bit of editing in the end.

>>633248
Nice edition. The house, garden and himself are real thought.
Damn musician and his expensive mansion.

>>633335
Catering to low taste to have the broadest market possible usually ends like that, with riches.

>>633358
Yes, you end up wealthy...but a wealthy cunt is still that...a cunt.

>>633260
ecks dee upvote my fellow reddit bro