/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>6383692
What's your terrible accent sound like, ESL?

>>6383725
I'm guessing filipino

>>6383692
Bit of a shame since Niji EN has 10x the chemistry and charisma of Holo EN. Personally I prefer Hololive JP over Niji JP, but Niji EN is leagues better than Holo EN. Especially Mori and Kiara, huge fucking mistakes

They're doing better than some NijiJP who debuted over a year ago. Imagine believing in >Manjisanji

>imagine being SEAnigger or spicnigger

>>6383777
I care about talent and sadly NijiEN girls don't have the "it" factor.

>>6383777
Too bad the group chemistry and decent charisma is in service to such bland mediocrity. I don't even like most of the HoloEN girls and I can still tell that Cover made great hiring decisions individually and made good designs for them. IRS being a step backwards doesn't change that either.

>>6383692
>NijiEn still not realizing majority of their fans is hololive fans
watch their numbers plummet into the trash bin once they regularly collab with nijiEN-male.

>>6383692
20k-30k

>>6384151
Dumb ESL

>>6383986
>I can still tell that Cover made great hiring decisions individually
Kiara and Mori are absolute cancer that don't fit the culture of Hololive at all and every collab EN does is complete cringe because they're all autists with absolutely no ability to entertain without being self conscious.

>>6383692
I like them a lot. Hope they continue to grow

>>6383905
Is vtubing just a fucking talent show for you?

>>6384151
True. Most of NijiEN fanbase are holoEN fans indeed. I still didnt see any newfags among them.

>>6384451
yes.

>>6384151
You don't watch them, considering they already do collab with males regularly.
You're not even wrong about most of their fans coming from Hololive, but most overseas Holo fans are not unicorns.

>>6384151
They all played Among us with a male present
They all played on Nijiworld server with males
Finana had a collab stream with an OTV male present
Elira and Finana played off stream with Kanae
If anyone is watching and is a unicorn at this point they are blind and deaf.

I hate the new fucking captcha

i really do

>>6383777
NijiEN is better than HoloEN because they can say shit whatever they want while HoloEN restrict their chuubas to not use profanity

>>6383692
You tell me. They overlapped a lot of streams with HoloEN in the first two weeks and did pretty well. Nowadays they're doing better even though the honeymoon is already over.
>>6383777
Newfriends don't seem to like when I say it, but nijiEN feels a lot like how Hololive was back in 2019. Honestly I'm glad they're at niji instead, at least they'll grow naturally instead of walking into a million subs and effortless success right off the bat.
>>6383986
I'd take a passionate but average person over a soulless talented gold digger any fucking day. It feels like as time passed, people started to forget what made Hololive popular and so likeable in the first place.

>>6383692
talking about dead subs is hilarious coming from an EN nigger
they all have a massive amount of dead subs when you look at live viewership and VOD views that are unimpressive when you put them up against chuubas with hundreds of thousands of subs less yet outperform them
cope consolewar faggot, you're literally no different from nijiEN

>>6384692
I love it more than the one that never worked when you got it right.

>>6383692
I'm convinced the real numbers for all corporate chubas are at most 25 to 50 percent what they are now. No proof aside from the circumstantial evidence of Irys, a 480p dumpster fire everyone predicted would flop, shitting on nijisanii before ever debuting while her twitter got restricted for "strange occurrences." Now she's gearing up to obliterate Iofi, a year old staple, within a week. Meanwhile, Gura's growth somehow kept up its explosive pace until she dethroned Kizuna Ai. Something strange is going on, and I no longer believe any "free" numbers on YouTube such as subs, views or likes are legitimate.

/vt/ really needs a rule against console war shit. Hurr durr my brand is better than yours.

FUUUCK I GOTTA COMPARE!! MY FAVOROTE THING IS THE GREATEST, LOOK AT ALL MY NUMBERS HAHA FUCK YOU LOWER NUMBERS!! HOLOLIVE HOLOLIVE HOLOLIVE HOLOLIVE HOLOLIVE HOLOLIVE HOLOLIVE HOLOLIVE HOLOLIVE HOLOLIVE HOLOLIVE HOLOLIVE

>>6384451
Yes? What the fuck do you think they're doing every day?

>>6385497
Talent means nothing if you aren't entertaining.

>>6385304
>Newfriends don't seem to like when I say it, but nijiEN feels a lot like how Hololive was back in 2019.
That's because they can't go back and watch most of the VODs because Cover.

>>6383692
If you want to make a dead sub argument explain why Sodapoppin does better than the shark.

>>6383986
>bland, mediocre
Elira is fluent in Japanese, does gaming streams for 10 hours, can sing really well, can do zatsudans/chat and be entertaining for hours, and interacts with everyone. She's the opposite of mediocre.

>>6386444
Why are you wasting time arguing with somebody who never properly watched them?

>Vsinger already bigger than all three combined
NijiEN was a flop

>>6386444
They are and will ever be considered mediocre when compared to HoloEN, sorry, thats just a fact of life.
Like a shitty knockoff brand.

>>6387071
>HoloEN
>Talent

Except for Ina, pick one because all the others are mediocre and only do good in the numbers department because of the Hololive boost

>>6387767
All NIjiENs are Holos rejects, so there goes your argument.
They tried and could not meet the standards
>shitty knockoff brand.

>>6387995
Do you know that Pekora was a Niji reject www?

>>6386444
So she is NijiEn's Kiara.

>>6383777
>Niji EN has 10x the chemistry and charisma of Holo EN
Only if you like literal zoomers, though.

>>6388080
anon stop,you're making anycolor like an idiot.

>>6384177
Something like this, probably if not 10-20k. Niji really isn't well known at fucking all to a lot of Westerners as the Holo leddit doesn't really let people talk about them, >implying vsh*jo fans even know what it is at all or would care, and otherwise most Western indies are in 2-20k range.

So if you pull out all interest from HoloEN fans yeah it'd be pretty fucking grim. I don't think there's any use in pretending it wouldn't be. Really though who the fuck cares about this fact besides Niji tribalists? Anikara probably is in fact very happy to hear that it's catching the attention of Holo fans so much - that is absolute proof that they're booting up the same level of competition they give Holo in Japan, because competing in the big-kid pool of audience share and not just fighting for viewer scraps against smaller groups and random indies.

>>6391746
Pomu is not a zoomer. Elira is probably on the cusp of zoomer and millenial where it depends how you count it.

Came for Pomu right before her 100k. Then heard how air headed and raunchy Finana was and subbed to her. I'll go check out the Dragons list in a bit. She was the most tame compared to the other two for me.

>>6391789
You came, for Pomu, you say?

>>6391812
Very Pomu sized.

>>6383692
You want to see what "pity subs" look like? Check out lower-subbed Holos' live viewers and VOD count at sub count more than these three combined.

>>6391778
>Pomu is not a zoomer
She acts like one and it's utterly trash and forced. See any minecraft stream with the fish or the dragon.

>>6385185
HoloEN restrict their talents in many ways but "use of profanity" is not one of them anon.

Some of them chose to be more seiso than you would be, that's their choice

>>6383692
Niji would simply never release an EN branch if Hololive wasn't that big

>>6383751
A filipino with english that terrible won't even know about this site, or even have an internet connection.

sakusan has some pretty amazing vod views

>>6396050
>Apex

>>6396050
Recently got featured in an APEX tourney and did very well, and is now capitalizing on it.

Good on em'.

>>6383692
Are their stream numbers that weird for their sub numbers? I though theirs were pretty normal, or atleast not some crazy outlier.

>>6397574
Iofi has 4 times more subs than Finana but merely a third of concurrent viewers on normal streams.

>>6391686
If Kiara had a good voice, could sing, and wasn't repulsive and obnoxious, yes.

>>6385185

>>6383692
Alot less. Seems to me like most of their fanbase is Holo fans who are looking for something new. Exception is Elira since she could just full on jp pander.

>>6388080
if anything it shows that they have no idea how to recruit the right talents

>>6385185
No fucjing wonder fucking algorithm doesn't pick them up... Fucking idiot's only debuff themselves.

>>6398717
Sub numbers mean literally nothing to any youtuber, that's just the "public" number you can talk about. All subs mean is that at some point in time the account expressed some interest

>>6400822
this sounds like cope to me

>>6383692
4/10 bait
Come back when you can speak English properly

>>6401056
If you see a sudden surge of nijianti threads, it's usually because the cultists start feeling insecure

Where is the real numbers thread?

>>6404520
Coco's grad really killed the numbers

>>6383777
I feel like with Niji in general there is better chemistry between the members, interactions feel more natural and less scripted, whereas with hololive they're way more into their roles, but at the expense of more natural conversations, I dont know, might just be me. Too bad Nijisanji mostly has a worst art direction (sometimes I feel like they just randomly pick a popular anime artist and ask them to draw whatever without any clear goal in mind and without studying their target demography)

>>6385185
This is someone who watched a Calli clip out of context then believed a rrat on this board. Point and laugh, everyone.

>>6384301
Kiara is an ex-idol who is fluent in Japanese. She fits better in hololive than Mori, Amelia and Gura combined.

Why does pacman barfing up a rainbow make this board so upset? The more you post about them, the more attention it brings.

>>6407818
>the more attention it brings
They wish. In here, it may lead to the /niji/ thread, but they absolutely hate tourists.

Just posting some kino.
https://youtu.be/3l8iBPpQGsw?t=2045

>>6407994
kek
I hope that guy was trolling but he's probably not.

>>6407723
Failed idol*. Nobody in Hololive is a real "ex idol".

>What their real numbers looks like without hololive fans pity/dead subs?
Brown hands typed this.

>>6386711
Not him but I watched all of them in their first week, every stream. Elira was fucking boring as shit. Nothing she says is interesting or amusing at all. At least the fish is retarded and Pomu can go into things.

>>6414806
NTA but I thought Elira's first week was really weak, and it comes down to her game choices being bad.
There Is No Game is everything bad with indie pixel trash.
Solo mainkura is simply a waste of time.
Every stream of Kuukiyomi is the exact same thing.
Then she tried to play MK8 with viewers but the timing was so close to her debut she barely had anything to work with.

She only started growing after her cooking sim stream as she started being more talkative about random stuff.

>>6386390
does he still use that avatar?

>>6386390
>Comparing twitch simps to YouTube viewers

>>6383692
Why would you exclude a portion of their audience arbitrarily?

>>6388080
Seemed to turn out well enough at least.

>>6384687
>Elira and Finana played off stream with Kanae
No they did not. Kanae only followed them and DM’ed Finana.

>>6433972
both Elira and Finana were part of a huge boardgame non-streamed collab with many livers from all over, and Kanae and Chigusa were there, but not playing I think.

I like the smaller chats, my messages get read by all the girls all the time. feels good. And the girls are cute and fun to watch.

>>6386390
twitch is not a serious platform

>>6435099
cope

https://youtu.be/3l8iBPpQGsw
100k collab kino