/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>7147698
It means you've been focusing on other areas (I hope), pyw.

> Generic smug face
> Interracial lesbians appealing to lefties
> "My Partner" to be even more PC
> Zoomer speak like "vibe"
Start by not following shit like this. People who make this crap are not artists, they are political activists.

>>7147673
this was posted on 4chan in aco.

Still shit

>>7147668
the lighting lacks a proper source most of the shadows imply its coming from the left but others imply its also coming from the right. the air brushing is also done a bit senselessly it removes a bit of the weight from the shadows and makes it feel flat

The biggest tip here is to not shade with black

>>7147631
No, ugly.

>>7147631
Two fausand eight???

>>7147631
ill start shes wearing her underwear in this 1
Vanessa P. (Abby Winters)
http://www.nude-beauty.net/archive/abbywinters/v/vanessa-p/01/?page=abbywinters/v/vanessa-p/01

>>7147601
Maybe you're one of the few people who have legit aphantasia.

>>7147601
>things you are not seen it?
The grammar bot sucks I meant
>things you aren't seeing?

>>7147632
Maybe, I cannot retain semi-complex images In my mind for more than a couple seconds.

as a young autistic 6 year old I would put a paper over a book cover and trace the art over and over again.

later, when tracing again, I had an epiphany. A truly spiritual moment that made drawing click.

you don't actually have to copy it exactly. If the arm is pointing up, you could turn the paper and make it point at a different angle, you can mirror an element in a different position by turning the paper over, you can even scale up or down an element by staying a certain distance from the real lines.

there are infinite permutations of the thing you study, it only takes a little creativity to realize.

After two dozen traces, I would draw the art on my own. I can't draw the exact picture again, because it's gone from visual memory. But I do remember the composition, the content and also the lessons I learned from studying it, this hasn't left me in over 20 years.

>>7147647
I can at best just copy stuff, I have no idea how to make something I am not seeing. And only clear cut flat stuff like cartoons, realistic things like Anime are too complex I get lost, the angles are wrong things are different sizes and it ends up deformed and skewed.

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>>7147653
daily reminder that this schizophrenic faggot blog posts like this constantly. He isn't looking for advice, he just wants to complain schizophrenically. He will track you down and hack your paypal if you reply to him, so don't do it.

>>7147562
>Check out the webm to understand how bad they are

You don't draw and never will.

>>7147563
I'm kinda tempted to make a webm of my chink junk and see what you guys think

Should I fall flr the screen less meme

>>7147651
whats wrong with it?

>>7147512
Can you see it OP?
Or do you need me to spell it out?

>>7147551
stop horny posting >:(

>>7147533
Maybe optionaltypo? I think it looks similar.

The redpill about AI isn't that it's dogshit and pure hype (it is), but that 3D-model traced Twitter slop is so godawful and so prolific that a glorified photobashing bot could credibly threaten it.

>>7147657
>prolific
>credibly threaten
You don't know what you're saying ESL. It's safe to say you can't draw either.

>>7147366
Something something “black and transgender people need to be centered in every conversation even if the conversation has nothing to do with them.” At least trannys are actually part of the alphabet people, it’s so fucking weird to throw black and brown in like race is a sexuality

>>7147394
there's no biblical proof that gays are sinners, the only thing corrupted is your american version of christianity. get fucked, heretic

>>7147621
wont be taking the bait

>>7147691
I would have taken it, thanks for saving me.

>>7147691
you're theologically weak and all you know is latching on to existing traditions, turning them into a LARP so it may be not so obvious that you're an asshole. It's obvious in your misuse of tolkien's words and your hillbilly church

>>7147297
you typed this with one hand

>>7147302
yeah I'm eating soup

>>7147236
Getting banned from the worst site on the internet means you're on the right side.

>>7147304
you didnt even wash your hands before eating

>>7147236
Rip king
Retards treating art like real life should be gassed gor humanity's sake.

>>7147208
heh

>>7147206
Nice picture of a dark room OP, I'm glad our advice helped you out.

>>7147216
It is supposed to be the wolwerine fighting the hulk

>>7147206
Nice picture of wolwerine fighting the hulk in a dark room OP, I'm glad our advice helped you out

>>7147222
thanks

>>7147246
yeah baby

>>7147288
I don't remember this from Otokojuku.....

>>7147288
source?
this shit looks hilarious

>>7147611
click on the 3 dots and Saucenao instead of being a "durrr source ??" niggerfaggot

>>7147611
Sora yori Takaku

>>7147182
Bernd, you mean you're not using your art to highlight important issues like BLM or climate change or Palestine? Why even do art at that point?

>>7147170
I care about weed legalization, but apparently that's a 'low effort' kind of activism and doesn't earn you many virtue points on social media.

>>7147170
I have been following and talking to a Palestinian hentai fetish artist who turned out to be a PFLP terrorist leader and has ties to Iran and Hezbollah, this changed me, never thought I would have ties to a terrorist organization in the Middle East, it made me curious to pursue and dabble in political art.

>>7147287
and he also used to post here, ladies and gentlemen, /ic/ has ties to Hezbollah

A little bit.

>>7147154
There is no step-by-step process for how to get good at anything. Getting good at something is partially the experience you build up by trying to do it and failing, and also learning how to think for yourself instead of trying to find an authority figure to cling on to.

Not rules, just tools. The world is a sandbox of infinite possibilites.

Copy art you like
Repeat until good

>>7147154
>draw something
>find the worst thing in it
>study said thing
>draw something again
>find the worst thing in it
>repeat

>>7147154
>Learn to see like an artist
>Use references
>Draw everything like it's 3D

>>7147154
train your eye >> observing, drawing, copying from life and other artists
train your hand >> ensuring your copies are accurate and have right proportions
train your brain >> learn fundies and theory and practice them

if any one of these three lags behind your process won't be optimal, either your eye will not be able to detect what your hand did wrong or your brain won't know why you drew what you drew etc etc...these all must be trained at the same time.

>>7147195
So even if we pretend that your opinion holds water, which it could cause art is subjective, Why are both Genzoman and artgerm successful despite them having some artworks with BG's that are "photobashed & half baked"

>>7147230
NTA but it's because they pushed for it and people got used to it.

>>7147243
That and despite it, they are still good at rendering the people they draw. Art Germs traditional work he posts have the plain white back grounds and look just as good. Its a little cheat vs cheating the whole piece.

Besides. Manga artist litterally take photos of japan to put in their manga after editing.

>>7147230
Success is not equivalent to quality.
Why is Fifty Shades of Grey so successful if writing shitty fan fiction is so bad? Clearly shitty fan fiction is the way forward.
I get that you want to defend your heroes, but no one is above criticism. Photobashing backgrounds into an otherwise good drawing is like smearing chromatic aberration filters all over a game: even if the underlining idea is great, even if the drawing is good, the very presence of the filter lessens the impact of everything.

https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=murata_range&pid=252

Look at this for instance. He does both white void and backgrounds in pin ups. When he does backgrounds, he makes an effort to integrate everything, even when working from photos and reference. He unifies the background with the characters, has them interacting with it some way. In those cases where it's not necessary (when he wants the focus entirely on the girl,) he omits backgrounds entirely or simply puts in a basic prop.

It is not necessary or even desirable to always have a background. It's even less desirable to choose the half in half out approach where you lazily stitch some blurred photograph into the background for "atmosphere." All it is is an expression of laziness and insecurity. Commit to the background fully and put an equal amount of time into it, or leave it out entirely.

>>7147254
Has nothing to do with me wanting to "defend my heroes" dude, and I'm quite aware that no one is above criticism. But what I'm asking is, what makes them so successful if it isn't the shitty backgrounds? To me it's the Character art and rendering that got him success

Why does everyone want to do it all solo? How come nobody collaborates?
>Well I'd rather spend 3 years alone on a four minute pilot that gets instantly forgotten in a week or buried by the algorithm.

>>7147224
Collaborating (with talented people) requires money and clout.

>>7147225
>Collaborating (with talented people) requires money and clout.
No. It requires some skill and hard work.

>>7147120
just make it with ai

>>7147299
While you're posting that just to be a cheeky cunt, I do think that animation is one industry that will benefit greatly from AI (if it stops being shit anyway).

>>7147095
it's not if you know what master studies are even for

>>7147105
Not OP but is the proper way to go about it to construct everything?

>>7147235
the proper way is to do it is as the original artist did down to the material if you’re being technical. you should research the artist’s process and working methods as well as the specific work you’re copying. you’re trying to pick up their methods and techniques rather than reverse engineering their style so follow any process videos they share. if you work digital try following a speedpaint as closely as possible. the approach is generally to emulate the original process so that you can refine your own work and process, including injecting your style with the techniques and traits you would like to develop with

>>7147091
Cool guys and gals (CGAG), I left the server but I'm sure some anons here got a link.

>>7147091
asg discord is good and relatively schizo free + has drawers
discord com/invite/AkCKzpHVNS

can I get a violet clovers invite pls?

>>7147121
>Getting vored by giantess
That one please

>>7147091
mine is perfect, because its a closed private invite only for people i personally know. you should try it

are you okay

Turns out you aren't as original as you thought you were.

But you're still the fag, op. Never forget that. You'll always be the fag.

>>7147001
Damn. How will I ever recover.

>using the term OC and not just 'my character'
>caring purely about being "original" above all else
ngmi markers