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5241161 No.5241161 [Reply] [Original]

Posted a few days ago my first attempts at sketching. General feedback was my drawing looked flat and off balance. So here is what ive done since. Proportions are inhuman by design as I thought that would be more fun.



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5241064 No.5241064 [Reply] [Original]

The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making and Manga-style illustration.

Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.

Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).

Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.

Previous thread: >>5202929


Some resources:

/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series >>>/ic/asg


Books:
Understanding Comics

Making Comics

Manga in Theory and Practice: The Craft of Creating Manga
https://mega.nz/folder/Dd4hnZTC#EjMIcTDPLbWXkAJLPHx2Kg

Story: Substance, Structure, Style and the Principles of Screenwriting
https://archive.org/details/RobertMcKeeStorypdf/

2000AD Script Book
https://mega.nz/file/gtNQgY6L#p7vPA_fLOUwxINMBzAX62w_xx282FVQoMhUHDGtiCpE


Videos:
"Manga Senpai/Tokyo Name Tank", "SMAC! THE SILENT MANGA AUDITION COMMUNITY"
Habanero Scans: https://www.dailymotion.com/HabaneroScans/videos

Full MANBEN Series link: https://mega.nz/folder/9h1mUYSJ#8sJoO57nMP_JhjnujBXkpQ

https://www.naokiurasawa.com/

Dejieshi no Bunpou (JP Only, Permanent Uploaded Needed; expires EIGHT DAYS as of this posting): https://easyupload.io/mirss5

>> No.5241066

Some western / indie publishers that seem to have a decent readership and are tolerant of or specifically cater to Manga:

Saturday AM ( https://www.saturday-am.com/ )
> Digital indie magazine, seems to be on the up-and-up
> Open submissions for long-form series; also distributes series currently being published elsewhere.
> Regularly publishes one-shots, making it a good potential outlet for already-finished work.

Noir Caesar ( https://www.noircaesar.com/ )
> Focuses on black (specifically African-American) content, but seems willing to publish anyone good enough.
> Seemingly series-based only.
> No "magazine" style updates; series are updated on their own schedule.
> Seems less regular than Saturday AM, but also seems larger in terms of readership.

Oni Press ( https://onipress.com/ )
> Technically indie, but at this point large enough by comic standards to be mentioned in the same breath as other publishers.

Antarctic Press ( https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/ )
> Longtime large-indie publisher of OEL / manga-esque books.
> Seemingly taking submissions at present if http://www.antarctic-press.com/html/submissions.php is anything to go on.

Yen Press ( https://yenpress.com/ )
> Started out as a small indie publisher of original / Korean material, and has grown reasonably popular since.
> As of 2016, it is also one of the western arms of the Kadokawa Corporation's publishing apparatus, with Kadokawa owning a 51% stake.
> They are known to publish original material, and editorial inquiries can apparently be sent to [email protected]

Viz Media / Viz Originals ( https://www.viz.com/originals )
> *The* western manga publisher.
> Currently in the exploratory stages of setting up an English label.
> Submissions are open and several books have been announced. However, progress on the label seems to be moving very slowly.
> Still might be worth a shot anyway.

>> No.5241069

Current Contests and Opportunities:

https://www.clipstudio.net/promotion/comiccontest/en/

International Comic/Manga Schools Contest 2021
>YOU MUST BE A STUDENT TO ENTER THIS CONTEST.
>This is a manga, comic, and illustration contest open to students worldwide. Winners are eligible for cash prizes, digital creation software, pen tablets, and chances to be featured in the media too! The contest is also an opportunity to have your work judged and critiqued by professional creators and boost your skills. There are many categories to choose from, and many opportunities to win prizes! We are looking forward to seeing your entries.
>Contest theme: Admiration
>Participant School Registration Nov 10 (Tues), 2020 ~ April 20 (Tues), 2021 9:00 (GMT)
>Work Submission Period Jan 12 (Tues) ~ April 29 (Thurs), 2021 9:00 (GMT)
>Winner Announcement Early July 2021

How (You) can help /mmg/:

> Know about a contest or a publishing opportunity? TAG THE OP and post a link.
> Have a new resource? TAG THE OP and link / mention it for inclusion.
> Have a link / DL for a mentioned resource? TAG THE OP and mention what you're supplying a link for.
> SCREENSHOT / PASTEBIN effortposts that help you for posterity.



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5241059 No.5241059 [Reply] [Original]

the amount of typos in this book is infuriating holy shit

>> No.5241073

>>5241059
the anatomy name?

>> No.5241074

are you the austist that always screech ESL?

>> No.5241077

>>5241074
dumb ESL

>> No.5241083

>>5241073
the typos are in the facial action units system
they're all mixed up far too often

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These books are cranked out very quickly
The first book was so fucking low quality I could not believe it, like they outsourced half of the 3D models and illustrations to jeets on fiverr
The models they use are repulsive, why not pay $20 more per hour for photo shoots of healthy and beautiful people? Not ugly femoids, sois, 56% and other malformed grebs with terrible posture and no ability to display convincing emotions

Pro tip: Disney figured out all these facial emotions and coding decades ago, and have much better resources. I won’t tell you where to find them



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5241046 No.5241046 [Reply] [Original]

Im new here, can we have an animation general please?
This is NOT my artwork btw

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>> No.5241054

>>5241052
Clip Studio Paint EX

>> No.5241068

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TiBoHQUj3I&ab_channel=GameSpotUniverseTrailers
Can somebody break down why this looks so good, mechanically I mean is there some sort of technique they are using to get juuuust the right amount of detail?

>> No.5241071

>>5241054
Anybody here uses OpenToonz?
Im not actually good at drawing, I started learning a bit about GIMP after a while I realized is not what I needed, then I started messing around with inkscape, and I did a few things that I liked in vectors that I now want to do some basic animations with on Opentoonz.
But when I import the vectors I made in Inkscape into Opentoonz they get altered a lot.

>> No.5241097

>>5241071
>>5241052
Try watching Dong Chang's channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTwMjbD2adQ

he mainly worked with OpenToonz

>> No.5241103

>>5241097
Thank you but I dont see him using inkscape and I really depend a lot on inscape for making the drawings. I have more of a technical compatibility issue I think



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5241041 No.5241041 [Reply] [Original]

>19 years old
>decide to start drawing, want to be like my heroes
>start on August 2020
>fundies and more, constantly grinding
>never let myself doubt, go on and accept crit
>grind my fundies
>month 1 2 and 3 go by, barely improving, others are better than me but im still trying
>month 4
>finally break, acvept that Im talentless
>periods of giving up start
>now
>6 months wasted draeing and /ic/ told me I had zero progress, a child would do better than me
>had fun before but now I've been completely demoralized, nothing works, literally traumatized
What do? Why can't I improve?

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>> No.5241123

>>5241041
you need time idiot, stop thinking art is something you're gonna achieve in months, takes fucking decades.

>> No.5241124

>>5241041
Wow, you're 19 OP!? You'd better give up, you're too old to learn anything. I'm 18 and I hope I can do everything I want before I get as old as you!

>> No.5241128

>>5241123
Neuroplasticity worries me
I'm 20 and I'm a collection of conditions, I have to pick something now and stick to it for life, but what if I make the wrong bet? Say, what if you wanted to be an archer but you had no talent, despite trying you'll never be good at it so you waste your life trying, maybe you should have tried marksmanship but then it's too late.
I'm already depersonalized so killing myself is more about getting over the lazyness and not about regretting it. If I fail to justify my existence, just terminate yourself, that's my viewpoint.

>> No.5241135

>>5241124
I'm 20 now, last year to pick something and stick to it, otherwise I'll be too old.
>>5241115
I'd be wasting more time
If I do nothing I waste time, 2 months of the last year to choose something, 2021.
Gone.
Yet if I were to draw without improving, they would be gone as well, wasted time.
I can't attempt to draw right now, I break down and suffer because I think I'm not going to improve, I lack confidence, I lack skill and talent.
I just need to know what course or resource to follow so I can develop what I need to improve. Many kind anons have given me resources but which one? What if I make the wrong bet and instead of 6 months they turn into 8 months wasted. Idon't know what to do, I don't know if I can do it, if it's for me, if it will be worth it.

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>>5241041
My god, this guy has pretty much become the /ic/ tumor



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5240865 No.5240865 [Reply] [Original]

I feel mixed about this drawing does it look okay.... I'm gonna post it to my Instagram tomorrow and I'm scared to post it

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>> No.5240873

>>5240865
Nice bitmoji underage

>> No.5240875

>>5240865
no, just no

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>>5240865
His skin is far too bright. it looks like it is in direct sunlight while the rest of him, along with the rest of the scene, is in shade. the white of the shirt is the same - unless something is in direct sunlight, "true white" is rare in the real world, and usually you're seeing a more greyish tone.

>> No.5240890

>>5240865
Just post it you have nothing to lose

>> No.5241084

>>5240865
arms to high.



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5240854 No.5240854 [Reply] [Original]

Does anyone know where I can purchase a metal miniature of pic rel? The only things I've been able to find are prints and 3D models. I saw a metal replica on a Russian site about 2 months ago but have since lost it. Sculpture is "An Athlete Wrestling with a Python" by Frederic Leighton and is displayed at the Tate Britain in London.

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>>5240854
I would like to know this as well.



[ERROR] No.5240832 [Reply] [Original]

Andre Herring Art on youtube is beautiful

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>> No.5241126

>>5241125
o. stop being a faggot, back to /pol/

>> No.5241127

>>5241125
Don't bump your own thread just because no one wants to touch this. It is obvious that you are Andre Herring.

This is so fucking pathetic.

>> No.5241129

>>5240832
I do kinda like that painting

>> No.5241130

>>5240832
NO REPLIES PAST THIS POINT LET THIS THREAD FUCKING DIE

SAGE GOES IN ALL FIELDS

SAGE

>> No.5241133

Your art is awful, stop shilling yourself you mentally ill nigger.



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5240825 No.5240825 [Reply] [Original]

>grind 1000 figure drawings because /ic/ retards told me to
>Also skim through loomis, read hampton etc
>Mfw I actually got better

>> No.5240826

Whom are you quoting?

>> No.5240829

we really mean it when we say practice makes perfect. glad you're making progress, anon.

>> No.5240886

>>5240825
when the pink floyd is sus!!!!

>> No.5241043

>>5240825
did you really need to make a thread for this?

>> No.5241121

>>5240825
pyw



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5240796 No.5240796 [Reply] [Original]

>Established professional for over 10 years.

>Clients include Wizards of the Coast, Bethesda, and Games Workshop.

>Struggling to get by, living paycheck to paycheck.

At what point is living out of an old can a better option than pursuing an art career?

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>> No.5241102

>>5240869
>If you get health insurance that is cheap, expect the deductible to be unaffordable.
>50$/mo sounds good. Until you get slapped with a $9k medical bill and have to pay $4k to meet the deductible.
>If you couldn't afford 1800$/mo, you definitely cant afford $4k all at once.
You American fucks deserve the Darwin award.

>> No.5241109

>>5241099
What do you mean bag of walnuts

>> No.5241110

>>5240922
Using the dodge brush for "shading" and thinking you're Frazetta. Yep

>> No.5241114

>>5241110
What do you mean dodge brush for 'shading'? I don't get it. What is that?

>> No.5241120

His art is bad.



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5240753 No.5240753 [Reply] [Original]

Bad art thread

Post images that just fucking appall you to your core

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5240789

Made by a 30 year old who went to art school and has been drawing for a decade

>> No.5240792

>>5240789
Why does this image make me sad?

>> No.5240953

>>5240789
You've gotta be lying. Holy fuck

>> No.5240956

>>5240783
From a distance it looks okay. ..until you see it a bit closer..

>> No.5240963

All my art is bad art hahahahaha
www.instagram.com/tbho



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5240706 No.5240706 [Reply] [Original]

Hey guys, my name is gay toledo jones and I feel that you all should critique more art on the fucking board. You all just sit there stroking your fag cocks over and over again without giving meaninful critique. Please kill yourselves and give me my critique you daft assholes.
>>5239713

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>> No.5240722

I'm saying this with genuine intention, read Loomis.

>> No.5240734

Try doing this pose infront of a mirror and see the difference.

>> No.5240736

>>5240734
to be fair, you can do it if you're possessed

>> No.5240743

>>5240706
Not the worst I've seen, I'd say work on the Hands and foreshortening as well the Leg's, Men's Leg's tend to bow outward same with the feet, try doing the two minute figure drawing exercise that helped me a lot

>> No.5240787

>>5240706

stop chicken scratching and zoom out if it helps you to make more confident lines. Draw from the shoulder/elbow and try experimenting with your grip.
Villpu has the best course for beginners imo. He teaches how to convey forms of the body in space which you clearly cannot do. Proportion is another issue in this drawing; the neck doesn't connect to the head properly and the body looks disfigured in general. Again, Vilppu's course/book is an excellent material for human anatomy. The figure looks like it's floating in space, and don't even get me started on the hands.
Your main issue is probably conveying form and perspective. Try to practice simplifying the body into boxes and ovals and try out gesture studies.



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5240681 No.5240681 [Reply] [Original]

if you are drawing in black and white, should it be in pencil, charcoal, or ink? what are the advantages of each?

>> No.5240703

>>5240681
Depends on what your goals for the piece are.



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5240672 No.5240672 [DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

>just draw furryshit if you want an easy money bro
How true is it? Surely the competition would've been insane if the entrance threshold was as low as people say it is?

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It depends on how much money youll make, I draw furry stuff and also loli and cub, and I can make from 300 to 700 usd a month, is that a lot of money? on america and europe I dont think its a lot, but is still some decent pocket money, where I live is a considerable ammount, I have bought all my tablets, all my HDDs, my cellphone and a long list of porn art with that money so for me its good enough
The biggest thing in furry porn is to have an appealing style it doesnt really matter if you still have wonky anatomy or your rendering is subpar, it will sell but if you have an appealing style it will sell better me personally I only commission people with cute appealing style and have spent a good ammount of money on that
So yes, there is market like anything in the world, you bake good cookies? people will buy, you are a great mechanic, youll get clients, you are a great dentist? same, you get the idea

>> No.5240695

>>5240672
there is money there, the question is how good do you have to be to get a public

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>>5240695

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>>5240695
there



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5240656 No.5240656 [Reply] [Original]

How come you don't have as much soul as a small child?

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>>5240671

>> No.5240688

>>5240656
I have more to be honest, i refused to draw as a child.

>> No.5240723

consume children for souls, the 1% know this

>> No.5240727

>ugly ass scribbles
>muh soul becus childs
neck yourself

>> No.5240731

>>5240671
my sides



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5240607 No.5240607 [Reply] [Original]

There's nothing wrong with chicken scratching. I'm going to chicken scratch and you can't stop me.

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>> No.5240725

>>5240711
explain it then

>> No.5240758

>>5240711
stfu retard

>> No.5240765

Nope, nothing wrong. Also just trace.

>> No.5240774

>>5240607
Based and chickenpilled

>> No.5240786

>>5240629
And /ic/ isn't where you're from nigger



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5240606 No.5240606 [Reply] [Original]

Vilppu keeps repeating the following:
> Don't copy!
But what does that mean?
How does an artist see a figure?

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>> No.5240645

>>5240606
Do not draw something with your supposed pre-conceived knowledge of said subject. Draw it as you see it.

>> No.5240653

>>5240617
based

>> No.5240971

I think he means trying to see the masses of the body as spheres and ellipses supported by bones, then rendering shadows to show planes turning away from the light source to create depth.

>> No.5240995

>>5240606
I’ve been reading about this topic today in a book suggested in this thread

>>5238628

Found here:

https://archive.org/details/133_20200605

The way the book talks about this it talks about how the medium you should be drawing from should be the imagination’s representation of our observations rather than “copying”. It seems to be stressing that that is the difference between intelligent drawing and mindless drawing. I don’t know much of Vilpu, so I can’t say for certain if it is his interpretation, but this is one interpretation of the meaning. It’s a cool book. You should really check it out if you are curious.

>> No.5241025

>>5240606
Don't copy, analyze.



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5240602 No.5240602 [Reply] [Original]

Draw this in your style

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5241011

>>5241002
well that came out light and way too huge, lesson learned

>> No.5241038

>>5240815
If Christina is deformed then I prefer deformed women.

>> No.5241055

>>5241038

Who is who? I legit don't know

>> No.5241060

>>5241055
Christina Hendricks is the big titty woman, don't know or care who the lesser woman is.

>> No.5241067

>>5240896
fucking perfect



[ERROR] No.5240576 [Reply] [Original]

redecorating room, suggest me art that i can hang on my wall. anything that looks good in a bedroom goes

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5240574 No.5240574 [Reply] [Original]

Why is the Tracing hated so hard.
"copying by eye" or "using somebody else Copyrighted content" isnt.
at the end all of this are "steaing from somebody else art and creativity"

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>> No.5240955

>>5240764
Only retards get mad for coom art. Stealing is good boys. Keep stealing.

>> No.5240958

>>5240764
I like the one on the left more.

>> No.5241010

No rules only tools, good artists copy, great artists steal - Michelangelo

>> No.5241112

>>5240941
>pic somewhat related
I don't know what the story is behind this picture, but calling it a copywork is just crazy.

>> No.5241143

>>5241112
It is just an example of different skill levels using the same composition to make the argument of
>In the end, you know what it comes down to?>The one who did it better.
Also they're fairly similar. I think left copied from right.



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