/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>13911979
Alright, listen here, you fuck ...

Every time we see trend data Japan SEA and the US pop massively and EU just never registers. EU doesn’t watch much, doesn’t engage on social media, doesn’t superchat. And the EU time slot seems like a massive debuff. Is there anyway to salvage that market? Or is it just too fractured? What cultural products are popular across the EU? What was their last pop culture phenomena to explode worldwide? Is it just a lost cause. I’d say yes except that’s what everyone said about KR after Niji failed there… until HL and HL (copycat KR edition) started doing well

>>13912409
Euros want people to cater to them in their native language.

>>13912409
It's very fractured cultural wise.
The issue is who do you try to pander to? I've heard before that france probably is the biggest weeb country in europe, I don't know if that is true or not. There is also a lot of sjw risk depending on which part of europe you pander to. Try pushing a loli-chuuba in northern europe, good luck not getting cancelled.

Inactive accounts of a holomem

Last year
Spotify 18.2M streams
YouTube 19.M views

At a minimum of $3k per 1M views/streams that's about $110k for doing nothing over a entire year

>>13911906
Anon-chama....
Suisei doesn't do SUPERCHAT readings. She does members streams all the fucking time.

>>13912409
HoloFR is the way.
>big weebs
>first step to enter Europe and you can link it to HoloEN or JP easier.
>Next gens gets more languaje, with german and spanish their best bets.

>>13912651
Northern europe is very leave me alone and let me be me type

>>13912651
France has a big weeb culture....
IN FRENCH!
Yea, your best bet at 'breaking into the Euro timeslot' is to be a brit and stream during Euro primetime. You get WFH peeps and Brit primetime peeps, and whatever weebs that are willing to engage with the english language in the eurozone.
Pretty sure that's Veibae's timeslot right? So it's not impossible but....
>>13912667
Is this uh....DD? I mean, huh, it HAS been a year since that account's put anything up hasn't it.

>Hayato gets 51k USD for his birthday
Damn.

>>13912667
sasuga doxxbeats

>>13912704
>She does members streams all the fucking time
Once per month at the maximum. Last month is an exception where she did it twice.

>>13912409
This is an interesting question, EU market is way more normie than the US and Asia. Then there are French, Spanish, Italians and Germans who won't engage that much with English and prefer people who speaks their language (See French people throwing shit to Saruei for banning her own language and using english instead). Then the timezones are pretty bad almost always unless a Holo is either not sleeping or waking up too early in ENs case. Another thing is the culture difference, as an EUfag I can say we are pretty self-centered people, it's difficult for us to just watch JP or EN for that. Kiara for example can relate to germans if she wants, and when she did her akasupas were in euros.
So basically we need some pandering and cultural similarities, we are not that weaboos.

>120k subscribers lost
I just realized Laplus has lost more subscribers than any member of Ethyria even have

>>13912714
Or they can just put maybe 3 frogs in the next HoloEN gen. A less risky approach that could still achieve the same objective.

>>13912714
>france
Neck yourself

>>13912933
Sana....

>>13912929
Okay I guess I was being hyperbolic, but to say she doesn't do them is wrong.

>>13912651
>The issue is who do you try to pander to?
French because they are massive weebs or Spanish because you will get also the hispanic american people.

>>13912799
On a personal level yes. But the social media sphere in parts of northen europe are very fast to jump on bandwaggons, for good and bad causes. I can guarantee that if a chuuba with La+ had debuted and gotten traction in my country there would be a lot of "Pedo" outrage in social media/media(after a while).

>>13912966
I would've never gotten into anime/manga, if it weren't for my weeby french cousins.

>>13913020
But doesn't that also apply to NA theoretically

>>13912409
I just watch JP

>>13913090
Europe is too way sjw, and this is not only applying to internet, irl too

>>13913020
You just described the US

>>13912966
I dislike them as much as you but they consume japanese products like no one in the world. Is their best bet on entering Europe with little to low risks. Even if you want England, EN is there and they did a shit job. Even Watson which should be their pandering holo did nothing.
So is France or Spain. Which is worse for you? Because is Spanish for me and I'm fucking mexican.

>>13912854
That’s top25 for a stream I think? Pretty good.

>>13912667
>At a minimum of $3k per 1M views/streams that's about $110k for doing nothing over a entire year
I googled how much you're paid per view in Spotify and it's apparently around $0.00437 per view, which would put her at slightly less than 80k a year from just spotify, that's upperish middle class. No wonder Mori said that she was at a point where she could live out just her music.

>>13913090
It does in theory yes, but I also feel that you have a stronger weeb culture there then you have here. It might just be a false theory, but I think there are somethings that might work in JP/EN in general but wont work in parts of Europe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyNvojO4dAo
>Chloe holding 30k hostage in this unholy hour

FUCKING HOW?

>>13912667
I think the more important point is music is important not only for good views. It can generate steady revenue for years with literally no effort. RIP has 26M views and it’s catchy as hell. Anyone who becomes a Mori fan will give it a few listens and she gets at least 3k/1000 for years. She could literally graduate and live off streaming revenue right now if she wanted to since she has so many originals as opposed to covers. She has like $300k revenue just from music streaming if you include all her alts. And over a million in sc. Then members, ads, premium, sponsorships, merch…. Mori is taking it in by any measure

>>13913146
>Consume French products
ONLY IN FRENCH. Which immediately limits your reach to France and.....French Quebec(except not really because the french is a bit different and their snobs about that shit so not really).
Like fuck, it's not worth it unless you're fine with being good sized indie.

>>13913299(ME)
GODDAMNIT I meant to say JAPANESE MEDIA, not french products.
Yes, they read tons of manga and shit, but all of it MUST be in French.

>>13913255
Debut buff and she's also smartly talking all about how she wants to learn English and using English sentences at a time of the day where there will be more English fans dropping by

>>13913020
>>13913132
anon, the same thing was said about Gura when she debuted and despite the usual suspects trying to virtue signal it got absolutely no traction at all. Despite what you might have heard, it's actually not easy to get an outrage mob going, especially when you get to the size of hololive.

>>13913299
I would say Africa but it would be very kek

>>13913164
Did the number increase due to holo?

>>13913255
I'll admit I'm a hostage. She actually turned out to be entertaining

>>13913299
Man en/jp language barrier is bad enough. Adding euro languages will isolate the hell out of them combined with time zones. Kiara gets by fine because she’s functionally trilingual. I just don’t see it happening. Even if they were a modest success they would have a hard time benefiting from the box. Honestly even Kiara would benefit from moving to JP or NA time zone long term.

>>13913255
I like listening to her even without the pon

>>13913351
Basically full or nigger FOPs...

Last thread
>people don't actually know why pekora got that many aka
>people don't know when she do a long part c
I miss the old days

>>13913255
she keeps the appearance of a dork while being really good at zatsu and utawaku
she's basically a peak performance traditional vtuber

>>13913255
She's actually entertaining.

There was a question a few days back whether Ema August will see any benefits from people pointing out similarities between her and Laplus... looks like a no.

>>13913255
she make the cute noises

>>13913520
Sure, but isn't her shit mic + overly cute voice tiring for anyone else?
I can't listen to her for more than 20 min in a row.

>>13913413
Yeah. 52k streams, 2.7k hours, 1.7k listeners at the end of 2019, 2.6m streams, 144k hours, 105k listeners in 2020.

>>13913660
Different tolerance levels. I mean, Kiara unironically has people who like her chicken voice, so...

>>13913255
I'm looking for someone to replace Kronii with, and Chloe fits the bill. hopefully I don't regret this

>>13913715
Kek, pretty sure most of the fuckers in the janny split thread are kronii refugees who got filtered

>>13913660
I can't speak for anyone else but I don't think it's tiring at all. I've been watching and listening to her zatsu since she started. Her overly cute voice is one of the things I like about her. Like the other anon said, different tolerance levels.

>>13913255
looks like shes the appointed nightowl of the gen. She can even speak some okay engrish for the yuros

>>13912409
is literally just timezone permanently affecting interest and it cant be changed

>>13913713
Fair enough, i can take Kiara's voice and screeching but,
Chloe and Mumei's "empty room" sounding mics grind at my brain worse than ASMR.

>>13913660
I personally find it endearing. Her voice isn't grating

>>13913698
Holy shit the incline. That went from pocket change, to side hustle, to comfortably middle class for someone single in the space of two years. And that’s without doing literally anything with the account

meanwhile, in "Part 6.x of Fubuki hunts the Shiny Karp....."
28k people listening to Friend pull out the recorder as her sanity evaporates.

>>13913660
She's sharing the same slot with Kiara
And a lot of people sure as shit ain't gonna clock into Kiara suffering through Ori

>>13913925
guess you're just ignoring pokemon eh

>>13913413
She got 2 big inclines, 04/2020 and 03/2021 but it was mostly a constant growth
Nothing especial happened with Mori in March to justify the bump in her RM account

Man the first SC stream for JP6 are going to be wild

How fast are these numbers?

>>13913520
t. eop

>>13914360
Everyone here is N1 though?

>>13914276
That's already at the same amount of views as Shion's cover.
So, good, possibly on pace for 1m in 3-4 days, which is FAST for a Holocover, even if it's the new hotness.

>>13914360
god I hate last samurais so fucking much

>>13914276
As good as the King cover by Gura/Mori. Gen6 songs are getting an excellent initial growth in the first hours and then if fades quickly

why's Gundo so hated/controversial?

>>13914584
Off-topic. Are you lost?

>>13914584
Lurk more.

>>13914276
that will likely make her fourth 1mil vod already

>>13914584

>>13912667
>he thinks that people actually get paid for spotify streams
Lmao musicians wish, Spotify got musicians bent over a barrel and never pay unless you publicly sue them

>>13914703
Then why do they put their music on spotify? Exposure?

>>13914703

>>13914760
>>13914703
thats because they're not the ones supposed to be giving you the money
>Spotify does not directly pay artists who are on the platform. You also cannot upload your music directly to Spotify. The middleman in this situation is a music distributor, such as TuneCore, DistroKid or CDBaby. These websites are the conduit between the artist and Spotify, and they are the ones who receive your royalties.
>With your email, create an account and then upload your songs for release. You are able to choose between dozens and dozens of well-known and barely heard of streaming services, of which Spotify is only one. Spotify allows for songs to be released a week or so after uploading, but that’s considered rushing it. Most artists plan their release carefully and upload the music two or so months in advance so they can take advantage of pre-order promotion, releasing a single before the entire album is made available, or they work on getting placed in a popular curated playlist.
https://www.planetarygroup.com/do-artists-get-paid-every-time-song-played-spotify/

>>13914760
Its an avenue of convenience to listen to the persons music
If spotify actually shelled out like theyre supposed to musicians would never have to work again or go on tour (usually their main source of revenue) or make merch

>>13914890
And >we already know that Cover goes through Nextone for this

>>13914703
She is using Distrokid to release her songs

Man, it's rely annoying when people steal images from here to use as bait and get almost 200 fucking responses
>>13901858

>>13914672
Is this man also named Gundo?

>>13915476
also someone is fucking around with the catalogue or something, threads are getting pushed off in an hour.

>>13915552
too much Gura baiting just because she took a sick leave

>>13915578
Yea, whenever Gura vanishes for longer than the 2-3 days she usually takes off, chumbuds start to get antsy and the bait gets good. Now that she's back though things should slow back down (except for the fact that baitposts with images from numbers and the graphs posted in the last 2 threads are being slung around to dunk ok Niji and HoloEN)

>>13913875
She's not stranger to streaming until morning. If she will still do it occasionally while also going for English learning streams she could become huge among EOPs.

>>13912409
EU has timezone problems, language problems, and many areas are quite poor overall compared to Japan/NA.

I'm back. What are we discussing this thread? HoloX numbers discussion are getting quite lame

>>13915476
It keeps the thrash out of this thread

>>13913385
Outrage mob only works if you have leverage over the target and they respond to it.

>>13915837
You're now in charge of council, how do you save them?

>>13915915
Transfer Sana to ID3, put IRyS into Council as the Concept of Music or whatever.

>>13915915
Bring on ID3, a second ENVSinger, and EN3 as fast as possible, the only way they'll get better is through competition. If EN3 and ID3 BTFOs Council that would put is going to put them on the spot.

>>13916133
that's not how it works, also thank god you're not running a company

>>13916105
>put IRyS into Council as the Concept of Music
nice

>>13916154
>that's not how it works
How does it work?

>>13916186
well not by turning into nijisanji, for starters.

>>13916133
Niji has proved that that strategy doesn't work.

>>13915915
Just get omega to talk to them, ask them if they feel good just coasting on the hard work of their senpai.

>>13914360
>t. retard who doesn't understand the concept that different people find different things entertaining

>please subscribe to my channel
>something people have said on youtube for over 14 years
>"OMG SHES SUCH A NUMBERFAG WHY IS SHE SO DISINGENUOUS"
Im tired of this falseflag act lads.. this board sucks...

>>13916236
Hololive was like that at the beginning

>>13915915
Try and get people to be more consistent of WHEN they stream so people can develop a habit to watch them. This helps them build a long-term fanbase that'll always know when to tune in.
Once that's done..
Sana : give up on her. Mistake hiring her as a streamer imo. Even if she has gachikoi she's too much of an antinumberfag to ever incline.
Bae: Her stream times are all over the place, so figure out two primary timeslots and stick to them instead of bouncing around all the time.
Mumei: nothing to be done until she's finished her school shit and moves to solace where she can go all out with her Karaokes.
Kronii: Needs to spend a bit more time making sure stuff works, and also to just get over the aversion to streaming MC on streams even if it's the most mundane shit. Looks Fubuki can manage to get 28k people watching her fish magikarp for hours, pretty sure Kronii could do a 2-3 hour stream of just digging fucking tunnels and people would unironically love it.

>>13916308
And in the beginning, hololive had few members and the market, in general, was far less saturated, what is your point?

>>13915915
Sack Omega and recruit a numberfagging powerhouse for EN gen3

>>13916301
Baiting for (you)s is not a new thing. Ignore it or get filtered

>>13916355
What Fauna?

>>13916280
they'll just lie

>>13916385
>recruit a numberfagging powerhouse for EN gen3
That's not gonna help council much though, unless said powerhouse collab a lot with them and based on how allergic to numbers council is she would likely avoid them.

>>13916355
What about Fauna?

>>13916508
Imo, Fauna needs to stream more, and that's about it. like, her timeslot is okay and she's consistent with it so that's fine. I wanna she her do a speed run MC race against like, Fubuki or someone else who's be into that sort of thing thought

>>13916385
>Sack Omega and recruit a numberfagging powerhouse for EN gen3
Agree and disagree

Have another person handle EN3 and EN4. Omega should clean his own mess.

>>13916355
>Sana : give up on her
Nah, she just need to find a niche where she can be herself and fish those gachikoi. I really believe she can become EN's Flare on SC.
Her drawing streams should be there just on saturday so it can be drawing weekends with Ina.

>>13916508
Get a better ASMR setup. Also, I think her rp ASMR has potential, she should lean more toward that.

>>13905639
The best answer I can give you is that she never signed up to be a streamer and isn't comfortable being one now. While she's very happy to sing for an audience, on stage or just a casual karaoke, you can see how uncomfortable she is with doing just a normal zatsudan since she always comes to them with a prepared bullet list of talking points, to the point that she has them on screen and moves the arrow from one topic to the next when she's talking. When she applied/was scouted to the AZKi project, she was probably expecting it to be much more akin to Kaf who's sole streams are very rare radio broadcasts with other members. Kami did do one Splatoon collab stream but that was years later and also never done again. If you look at her content for the first two years, that's more or less exactly what she did and only decided to start challenging herself to stream as part of a New Year's resolution on top of the problem of Covid lockdowns shutting down her main activity of Lives. It's not that unsurprising that a shy mega otaku like she is isn't that comfortable getting up in front of a camera and talking to herself for hours on end, and quite frankly, I don't know if it would see a massive incline in her numbers to do so. She's already very profitable through merch sales, which she mentioned that for her 7th Live way oversold expectations, concert tickets, and album sales. While her SC earnings are pretty abysmal, those were never a significant part of her business model, and judging by how many emote slots she has, she has a minimum of 1600 members despite the only real incentive being the activity dairy that she updates once or twice a month which already likely puts her in contest with someone like Mel's membership numbers. People do massively underestimate how profitable AZKi is, though, because it's not visible through the traditional routes that this thread embraces, and so people supposing that Cover covered the costs of her AMVs are unlikely to be right. Because the AZKi project's very unique situation, it's not unreasonable for a much larger portion of her earnings to get funneled back into advertising, which is what the AMVs functionally are, and literally were in at least one case with the rerelease of Real Melancholy being played in Akiba.I also doubt you'd see her getting an incline proportional to the amount of time and energy she spends on it, and while she may not like her OL job either, who knows how much of the complaining on Twitter is just her venting in a healthy manner.

She does seem to enjoy being busy, or she wouldn't guest feature on so many albums. My personal suspicion is that part of the reason she's so active on her roommate's account is because, as IRyS has talked about, she doesn't have total creative freedom as part of the Vsinger project so she can't just release the stuff under the AZKi brand like someone such as Watame or Mori can. That's how you end up with situations with Aki Rose and not!AZKi being guests on the same album, for example, but it is mostly conjecture based on very incomplete information that the audience will likely never hear about so take it with a large grain of salt.

>>13916652
Omegakek's biggest mistake was not actually debuting as a vtuber. because of that, he's just known as a smartass vtweeter. If he's scared of being outed as a male in an all-girls branch, he should try being a babiniku and use heavy filters to mask his voice.

>>13916793
>Her drawing streams should be there just on saturday so it can be drawing weekends with Ina.
I like this idea

>>13916889
Nigger, please stop getting all your information from /vt/ and thinking it's representative of the general fanbase. The only one that applies to are the herechuubas and even then it's not entirely accyrate

>>13916794
she rarely even do drawing streams for a supposed famous artist and a nepotism hire by Ina. ironically i've seen Mumei do more draw streams, and that's a person who's afraid of breaking opsec by revealing her drawing style. everyone knows she's indonesian noodles anyway, so why hide it?

>>13916975
either way, it plays to the vagueness of his gender, and the "robotic" filtered voice would sound otherworldly, fitting his lore.

Another fan made video 1M
https://youtu.be/32RJPfqxwFo

>>13916987
>>13916793
None of you people watch sana she does not want be know as the kid who just draws. That the main reason she join hololive to show off her entire personality besides drawing and to tell herself and other she not just an drawing machine and there more to her likening astronomy.

>>13916889
>Biggest mistake was not debuting as a vtuber
I'm still shocked they haven't done it. Once Council debuted to increase the membership of EN and we had that Omega teaser I was expecting something similar to what JP does with A-chan. Have monthly event streams on the official Hololive English channel that Omega is the MC of or even those recap shows that A-chan does.

>>13916987
meant for >>13916793

>>13917095
>in just 4 days
s-sugoi~

>>13917134
maybe they are waiting until they hire someone with a cute voice?

>>13917153
Migoti recognition too stronk.

>>13917096
Too bad her "whole personality" can't get numbers.

>>13917134
>Have monthly event streams on the official Hololive English channel that Omega is the MC of or even those recap shows that A-chan does.
Is possible that can still happen, we have no idea who is behind the design. The can hire someone just to do exactly that.

>>13917095
Miko used that image as her thumbnail and even played the actual game today. Hololive talents love showing appreciating to their fan creators.

>>13917096
you're actually right. though i just feel it's a waste of her talent if she isn't giving it much focus.

>>13917096
I know that, you idiot.
That's why I said first she needs to find her niche where she can be herself and attract people. I get why she doesn't draw but if you have a skill which is great, is almost a crime to not show it to the world.
Is like Suisei not wanting to sing even if she is good.
Sana is a nice girl and I would watch her over any other Council but feels like a wasted oportunity.

>>13917367
Risu...

>>13916869
thanks, AZKi bro! that's was a very comprehensive read and provides us with a lot of insight into how Cover operates.

>>13917394
Don't get me started with the fucking Tree Rrat. She could be on Moona/Ollie's level but she went fucking lazy.

>>13917394
Speaking of Risu here is a recent Risu cover that you probably didn't know about since it isn't on her channel was was barely advertised, lol.

https://youtu.be/HoXvCbBLja8

>>13917096
>she does not want be know as the kid who just draws.
This isn't some new concept, there are artists that already pull that off like Marine, Tamaki, Sarurei. Sana doesn't have what it takes become 'personality' streamer.

Miko didn't put up her best performance today due to how fucking crowded the time slot was today but she is holding near 14k at nearly 5am her time. That is pretty impressive.

>>13917497
Holy shit that is really fucking good. Why don't you sing more you damn treerat?

>>13917612
She hates success.

roll credits

So what's Today's ranking?

>>13917612
I have no idea why she joined hololive to begin with

>>13917497
Wew I love the rrodents of Hololive so much

>>13917768
she's an avid shitposter that frequents /hlg/ and /vt/. like Fubuki, she just does whatever the fuck she wants now that she's not a poorfag anymore

>>13917768
ID1 were before Hololive became the top dog of the industry and before an expectation to succeed was placed on every holomem.

>>13916633
That would actually be a good idea, do stuff like Flare/Polka dig holes for diamonds competitions where it's basically a duo zatsu.

I really think (i do like her so i'm probably biased) she has a ton of potential, but she's just still uncomfortable with expressing herself. Members streams are more comfy.

Lol imagine in HoloX have a big event overlapping Pekora outfit in December

>>13917940
they can't overlap if they are from the same branch retardchama

>>13918062
I was joking. Can’t see HoloX having any big event late in December

>>13918121
Though as a Peko fan, I am really scared of Peko outfit being mogged. That would seriously be the end for her

>>13918121
>big event
They'll be featured on the new year main ch, that's why they pushed to debut before Dec 1st

>>13918186
> peko fan
sure you are

>>13918278
Yeah I know right. I keep telling myself to ignore numbers but now I frequent this thread
Only have myself to blame I guess

>>13917717
power of friendship

>>13917717
come on anon, this thread lives by the creed that if you aren't top 3 you should graduate the next day. Don't come here with your lies of friendship.

>>13917846
Even bottom tier Holos are far, far ahead of the ocean of indies out there, and a comfortable living in Indonesia is ludicrously cheap. Risu gets the Indonesian average monthly salary on a semi regular basis from one guy shitposting her streamlabs alert. She just doesn't care, which is a shame, because if nothing else she's an amazing singer.

>>13917940
Bold of you to think she'll get it this year. I know Cover apologized for the delay and that Pekora said she'll get it this year, but I'll believe it when I see it.

>>13918459
I’m just considering the best scenario. At this point it definitely will be a disappointment unless it’s like 2-3 outfit at the same time like Suisei which it most likely won’t be
The wait is too long and the hype already die down

>>13918459
At this point I almost feel like it's better for her if they don't release it this year. This month is stacked it'll just be another event in a sea of them, and then her bday isn't that far away either. Better for events for individuals to be spread out a bit for chance of growth imo

>>13918459
Bold of you thinking she will get anything resembling a costume. Cover will force her to wear a paperbag or get fired. Or the result will be the same in the end, they've fucked up for such a long time with this that it can never live up to the hype.

>>13918596
I really don’t want to imagine the shitposting if they post another delay. The number of nousagi bait across the board will be insane

NOVEMBER VIEW/TIME RANKINGS

See the picture for the numbers. Just look at the big table on top for the quickest results; or the one on the bottom for individual ranks..
>If you want a quick summary, most categories of jp vtubers are stable in november, when compared to october, thanks to events, debuts, and also everybody playing the new pokemon getting a good buff.

>The group with best results were HoloJP (mostly just good streams, the debuts only raised it by ~3%). NijiJP were stable and Others (indies and small corpos) fell a bit due to the bigger hitters performing poorly.
>This next month of december there will be a lot of events and tournaments, so the numbers should remain very good.

>Meanwhile, the holo and niji ENs seem stagnated/falling overall; and the same for Vshojo as well.

>I’m using the metric (vod) views/time because it seems to be the best metric we can use for comparisons.
>There’s no way to calculate direct hours watched without having access to data analytics from inside each channel owner or bullshitting it; simply counting total views doesn’t take into account how much did they stream to get there (and they usually count small skits and music videos as well); and live viewers (on youtube) are very buggy and cut off a significant portion of that real number (for example, comparison between Miko’s twitch and youtube minecraft streams seem to indicate that 35% of her yt live viewers numbers are hidden [read the OP or the whole thread >>2253454 for anons discussion on the possible reasons for it) (not to mention that twitch max live viewers are constantly influenced by twitch raids coming from other channels).

>Reading and trying to compare all those ratios for each hour length would have been a pain for you, so that’s why I’ve already made the ranking tables, with ranks for inside each time length.
>The longer the stream time, the fewer vtubers that had any videos available to calculate.
>Never compare general view/time ratios of streamers who have very different stream duration averages - that’s why I just don`t rank those anymore, since people are too dumb.
>Only compare data (or ranks) from the same time length.

>For combining those ranges from each time length, i inverted each position into a fraction (position/total), calculated the average of all available time-length fractions for each streamer, and then compared those resulting numbers: the smaller your fraction is, it means the higher yours positions were, so you rank higher.
>You can see a practical example (from may) here: >>4423534.

>Video types like short skits, short amvs/covers/original songs, watchalongs, members-only, sc-only, or private were not included for the calculations.
>Videos analyzed for 'this month' are from the time period of 01-11-21 to 01-12-21 (~1am jst).

>You can see the biggest individual growth fluctuations with those vtubers who had some huge special stream (like 3ds, costumes, returns, tournaments).
>They can be big rises if the special vids happened on this month; or big falls if the special vids occurred on last month.
>On those cases you can see % change of one specific time length way superior than the rest for that vtuber.

>Collecting all this data was a whole lot of work, so no promises that I’ll be doing this again, or as big of a list.
>I don’t think I missed anyone too big, I left out the smaller nijisanjis, or holostars or whoever else because I don’t have the time to include them all - but I did include a few smaller ones just out of curiosity.
>Expect the list of checked vtubers to be cut by a good number on the next month.
>And no "now im suddenly a vtuber" trendhoppers were included either.
>Azki and Toko were consired inactive due to only streaming once, too little for a whole month and it also being very buffed special events - like several other examples on prev months.
>If you think I left out someone relevant you can try convincing me to do their numbers as well, although if they are too small I’ll just tell you to fuck off. Or you can just calculate it yourself and post it here, not too hard.

>I didnt proofread this, if something mentions september is because i forgot to update the text or pic.
>i think on last thread someone asked if i would update those names. Definitely not for this month version, as it will likely mess with some formulas. Give me a full list of those names youd like changed and ill see what i can do for next time. Short lists will be ignored.

>ill reply to myself with that top vtubers history pic

>>13918617
Yeah unless it’s like a full wardrobe, otherwise it will be a disappointment
This is basically a lose-lose situation for both her and Cover. People will start asking what the fuck Cover been doing for over a year

>>13918709
me again, and here's the vtubers ranks history, updated. This one is not supposed to be perfect especially for the past years having worse sources, but it gives a good indication I guess.
Remeber that everybody will be jumping generally five positions down, because of all the gen6 debuts appearing right on the top.

Not many things of interest to spot this time around, at least not for people getting their highest position ever.
- fubuki had her best position of this year
- irys had her best position ever not counting debut month
- if it werent for the five gen6 debuts this month, the top50 would be completed at the bottom with: Nimu, Choco, Mayuzumi, Ibrahim and Mythia Batford (shes some id vtuber apparently). Vshojo still wouldnt rank, as their highest was nyanners with #56 (51 without the debuts)

this couldnt fit in the last post so ill drop it here:
>for the gen6 debuts I didnt count their first stream since they are way too buffed, taking only the second/third one in november. Since iroha didnt have one i had to give her the first december one.
>The top older names were still able to compete with them for ranks because all gen6 has to compete with each other on the 0h time range, while leaving all the other time ranges free for the rest to take and still rank high, compensating for their loss on the 0hr one. Still, I wouldnt take the gen6 comparison between each other too seriously, since it is way too early and Youtube has been fucking all week with those debuts metrics, including subs and views, damming and culling them again and again every new day, and still their vods keep growing as well.

>>13918714
Yea, it's a lose situation for Pekora that she has a bad costume reveal, and after that she never uses it again. For cover it will basically alienate a decent chunk of nousagi and the rrat that covers hates their girl just grows stronger.

>>13918459
>>13918596
pff, shes already got the outfit ready at this point, shes just waiting to do it on the same hype week as myth's outfit and get huge numbers from it

>>13918781
Canceling her outfit might actually do less harm to her reputation and Cover. Just admit you fucked up and moved on

>>13918748
>>13918709
ah it's cope chart anon, welcome back.

>>13918781
yes schizobro, every nousagi cares so much about a pekoras new outfit that theyve been demanding for it nonstop

>>13918804
>Hype
It will be a disappointment because just a single outfit will not justify a year of waiting
Unless it was designed by a famous fashion designer and were sponsored or some shit

>>13918748
KING I KNEEEEEL

>>13918748
Do people like this metric? I feel like it's one of the most garbage things I've seen in these threads.

>>13918881
Lol every single time a new outfit got revealed, there will definitely someone mentioning her outfit lol.
Her outfit is literally a meme at this point

>>13918748
I'm still dumbfounded at Anykara whenever I see this graphic. Close to 2 years of domination especially from the start of 2019 to 2020, to being compeltely dependent on Kuzuha and He-Ayame just to chart in the top 20. Japanese businessmen truly are dumbasses. You literally have to get them to fall ass backwards into success like Yagoo.

>>13918881
It might be over the top to claim that nousagis would rise up that my post might have sounded like. I agree that I might have blown that up, but you can't deny that she's been asked about it quite frequently since it was delayed. And if they reveal it and it's a "ok" costume but it would take a week to create it, then I can guarantee that there will be some dissapointend nousagi.

>>13918905
What other metric would you use that can't be skewed by grinding stream hours?

>there will definitely someone
oh nyo, one schizo is going to post about it on this board?
most of the new outfits are worse than the original, it is to be expected at this point.

>>13918905
why do you think I call it cope chart?

>>13919084
Worst case scenario she just gonna abandoned it and everyone will forget about it after a few weeks
But well, that would make it a waste of money on Cover side though, imagine spending time and efforts and even delaying just to make an “ok” outfit

>>13918905
Why? Because it doesn't confirm your bias?

what's with all the samefagging on this thread today? do retards really think it's hard to tell?

>>13918748
Good job

A lot of the anti-EN self hating weebs hate this chart because it actually correctly enforces just how strong Gura really is.

>>13919099
I mean even so, Cover did delay it so people expected it to be at least a little better than your usual outfit
If it’s not then what have they been doing with the extra delay time

>>13918748
>Mythia Batford
Leech. Somebody post the pic i dont have it

>>13918709
>>13918748
>niji en reclining hard
what happened?

>>13919192
Thread are pretty dead right now so it’s fine. Not like there’s many stream happening right now

>>13919084
suiseis newest outfit was complete shit, nobody gave a fuck

If you had told me a week ago that Chloe would be this far ahead of her genmates I wouldn't have believed you.

>>13919220
>how strong Gura really is
still beaten by jp

>>13919316
cope

>>13918709
>>13918748
I honestly fail to understand what is it that you're trying to illustrate with this type of chart/formula...

>>13919316
Woah there the Hoshiyomi wouldn’t like to hear that
Also I wouldn’t call it “complete shit”, she essentially get 2 outfit with color variants, there are efforts being put into it

>>13919352
A week ago we didn't even know that there was going to be JP gen6 debut in November anon.

>>13919424
Anontradamus did, i remember

I am looking forward to the December events. There’s so many events that can happen

>>13919424
I did. The numbers told me.

>>13918709
>>13918748
based chart anon, thanks

>>13919352
If you told me six days ago that Laplus will have the second worst number for gen 6 debut, I would told you to take your meds.

>>13918748
>for the gen6 debuts I didnt count their first stream since they are way too buffed, taking only the second/third one in november
And yet you leave ENs debuts in?

>>13919424
to be fair there was quite a bit of speculation about november, mostly because it was pretty empty in terms of holo celebration dates

Now that I think about it, the sudden debut might have contributed to these girls debut number
People didn’t have time to speculate their personality so they all watch their debut because of curiosity

>>13919119
I just assumed you called it that because your mother dropped you on your head so many times.

>>13919608
Even Pekora mentioned that she see a lot of new managers in Cover HQ. That hint should have been obvious enough

>>13919620
>people didn’t have time to speculate their personality so they all watch their debut because of curiosity
idont get how you take this. Speculating personalities would make them lose the curiosity?

>>13919654
Any chart that has Ayame that high is fundamentally broken.

>>13919732
and miko was even more direct

>>13919119
Because your mother didn't give you enough attention as a child?

>>13919787
anon please, ayame is always high

>>13919654
Damn you seem to retarded, a bit cute, like a retarded dog but please don't piss on my shoes.
The chart is a cope metric in the same way that watch hours is a cope metric taken in isolation.
This months ranking at the end illustrates this point perfectly, please take your time to really think about it.

>>13919787
oh, it's a "hard work" faggot
kys

>>13919872
ogey last samurai

>>13919768
Something like that yeah. People would take a look at their design and goes “Hmmm this girl would be like this, she would act like this, etc” and if they decided they are not into that then odd they won’t watch the debuts.
When you drop the debut immediately after the announcements, people will most likely be like “Ehhh what would this girl personality be? Guess I will check her out since her debut is right after”
Of course the differences in number would be minuscule but I figured things like this does happen

>>13918709
>>13918748
Thank you for the work, chart anon.
Mito has fallen from the grace. Lize is the queen of nijisanji now, but the whole company is declining, and hololive is inclining. Sony debuts have no impacts, so Hololive will remain unchallenged for another year unless they implode from within.

huh there is a time limit to pokemon games? when is it?

I am curious, what is Watame’s thing? I only know she does ridiculously long SC reading and even Hologra meme about it
Also she cry on stream

>>13920197
till the nnd tournament, though I remember last time they got two extra weeks after it

>>13918709
>Chumbud cope metrics
Delicious.

>>13920216
when shes not crying shes pretty sassy and still cute.

oh hey, festival hit 1M

>>13920300
took her long enough

>>13920216
She's pretty funny, she's one of the best with using her avatar in both 2d and 3d, she reads chat a lot and will probably be able to understand your EOP comment, karaoke's are fun.

>>13920291
I think she cute. Love her interaction with Pekora during the SportFes

>>13919872
>watch hours is a cope metric taken in isolation
Watch hours in isolation still has value, it's better of course along with something like hours streamed and average CCV. But being able to say people watched my stream for 1mil hours this month even by itself is still something valuable you could take to advertisers.

This view/time shit is worthless by itself and can't even be fixed by adding in metrics. Anyway long story short watch time + other metrics > this trash, therefore why even bother with it.

>>13918748
>for the gen6 debuts I didnt count their first stream since they are way too buffed
>oh shit its beating EN better not counting these debut while I'll include EN debut Hehehhehe

>>13920503
oh no it's the streamhatchet intern again. Seems like you got yelled at in your job again today

>>13920695
cope

>Chloe already scheduled stream at JST primetime
>its on Pekora usual timeslot
Beautiful

reminder not to interact with enschizo

>>13920781
Pekora usual time slot is 9:00 PM JST and not 8:00 PM JST right ? Chloe stream is 8:00 PM JST.

>>13920695
Funny how everyone trying to argue for view/time hasn't even attempted to say anything of value.

>>13920781
a true numbers test

>>13918709
>>13918748
Don't listen to the haters anon. We appreciate seeing this chart every month. We have a schizo here who has a seething hatred for anything EN and since your chart takes things other than pure CCV into account he doesn't like it since it makes the ENs look pretty strong (especially Gura).

Keep up the good work chart anon.

>>13920877
>Chloe stream is 8:00 PM JST
nope chloes is at 9 pm jst, you must be converting it wrong

>>13920781
huh looks like they haven't decided on their timeslots yet, theyre all over the place

>>13920994
Ohh she said on twitter that it's 9:00 PM. I was checking through holostats. You were correct anon.

>>13920781
>>13920911
I can already feel Pekoschizo praying that the Killer Whale somehow still beats Pekora on her timeslot.

Did Pekora say anything on her stream on what she's planning today? is it Pokemon again?

If EN can´t even come close to matching holox rookie numbers they should honestly all graduate already, waste of resourses

So based on my way too early observations it is looking like JP6 is going to be pretty strong (no shit right?)

I am seeing two potential superstars in Laplus and Chloe (think Pekora/Miko/Marine tier) and Koyori is looking to be a super high mid-tier (think Botan/Kanata/Noel level). The other two aren't looking as strong as the others but they are both apparently excellent singers so their music and karaoke should do very well.

>>13921229
dont get ahead of yourself just yet. I would say so far laplus and chloe can be botan/kronii tier (star of their gen but not of all the branch), they have to show good numbers after a week to make me really believe more. Koyori = mio/nene tier. Lui and Iroha i dont expect a lot, maybe a little over towa after stabilizing. Of course, they could score higher, but idk.

>>13921229
I still can't understand how Cover keeps getting S tier chuubas while their direct competitor can't even make a mid tier one

>>13921229
While on Debut buff, then Yeah.
But if they want to keep it that way, they'll have to work very hard and must do something incredible.

>>13921419
Just like Ayame

>>13921229
Buff debut still clouding people opinion ask again in a week or two

>>13921078
I think she said she's going to try minecraft for the update.

>>13921229
>>13921363
>>13921419
Assuming they don't do anything special and unique. My prediction of their median after 2-3 months will be:
Laplus = shion tier (around 15k)
Chloe = mio tier (around 11k)
Koyori = nene tier (around 9k)
Iroha = towa tier (around 6k)
Lui = choco tier (around 5k)

I Agree that they have the potential but look at Council. they also had the potential but they fell hard. (btw i'm not council schizo, i'm merely stating what i observed)

>$10k first day
and thats a lot of Taiwan bros

This months is going to be big again.

>>13912714
Or just HoloEU with 5 different languages

>>13919787
Ayame gets excluded from most charts because she's fundamentally broken.

>>13921792
Who?

>>13920781
Just going straight to slapping Pekora with the dueling glove days after debut. I love this gen.

>>13913146
>Even Watson which should be their pandering holo did nothing.
You do know that she’s not actually English?

>>13921854
EPGORA

>>13921792
wtf did pekora do?? Did she get the shiny pokemon she's hunting?

>>13912714
I think Kiara can speak some french too

>>13921901
1.8M subs

>>13921901
Watching the vod right now, it was for her 1.8m sub milestone

>>13921901
>>13921915
She already had a lot of akasupa before the 1.8m happened/was noticed.

>>13921666
I think you're underrating them. Those are Council level numbers. Chloe for sure will be hovering around 20k median, with Laplus not far behind

>>13921666
Council by and large fucked themselves over by taking large breaks, so if the nip overwork ethic doesn't let them do that, they'll probably outperform Council even if they are competing in a much harder market.

>>13918709
very cool anon :)

>>13921037
That's assuming they're going to have fixed timeslots, which isn't the case for a lot of holos.

jp chartbro. its pretty similar to graphbros one except the male is inclining here.

This thread seems to hate Gura.

>>13921078
>>13920911
I mean, I wont be surprised if she does.
These are her following buffs:
- After Karaoke the most hyped girl in HoloX(sorry cunny)
- Debut Buff
- Hates Horror* and is playing horror
- Prime Time

I got to be honest and say that in a way if she doesn't win she fucked up somehow.
t.nousagi

>>13922295

>>13921901
Someone sent aka supacha saing they fallen for Pekora again and she started commenting on people who change oshis/loss interest and that it may make others insecure. Saying that it's already 3rd time she's senpai, but other girls may experience this for the first time. She said more stuff but I won't list everything just watch vod or wait for clip. Lots of people started sending supacha with "I love you" and "You are only one for me" and as she was reading them she got 1.8M.

>>13922284
i think they are made by the same person, but that version you posted probably not from the complete month, he had posted some early version for nov. Pic related he posted today, uses the full month of novembemr .

>>13922295
No, just tired of Chumbuds saying shes the second coming just because she has a high subcount. Like the rest of EN shes a lazy fuck who refuses to play the numbers game, no twitter engagement, no celebrations for milestones. She had the potential to be an all time great and decided to cruise instead, and whats worse is that her attitude leaked down into Council.

Gura will never be EN Pekora and thats sad because she easily could have been if she just tried a little bit.

>>13921473
Ayame breaks pretty much any rational argument somebody can try to make about the causal relationship between what a vtuber does and the success they get. She's the reality we'd all like to ignore, but must accept.

>>13922410
Does Pekora talk about Lamy's situation?

>>13922436
is the nijimale slip literally just kuzuha's recent streak of <20k streams?

>>13922753
She didn't mention her personally but that's basically that she talked about, at least as far as I understood.

>>13922284
>>13922436
This is your second dead cat bounce. Good luck holobros.

>>13922750
ayame is the reality i want to become. Work little, gain a lot of money.

>>13922410
This is why Pekora is the queen. Perfectly played. Not too over the top but just enough to guilt trip her gachis into professing their loyalty to her. Lamys strategy was bad.

>>13922284
Seriously?
First time ever Niji female have dropped below 3k?
Guessing that Splatoon tournament had something to do with it.
Main, Kuzuha and Fuwa were getting all the views and all the girls participating got 1/3rd of their usual numbers for several streams in a row.

>>13922284
>>13922436
>>13922757
I'll have to double check my data. Maybe they consider Chronoir channel "male" or something.

I defer to NipBro charts tho, if they say it's that number it's that number

>>13911979
Omega fan here, I find this image highly offensive.

>>13922827
I heard this in august, you shouldn't really jinx it, nijisanji goes down everytime

>>13921390
>I still can't understand how Cover keeps getting S tier chuubas
Anon.. You never learn do you

>>13922827
Nijisanji however don't even get to experience this. Goodluck to you as well Nijibro

>>13922906
Lamy is too much of a parasocial.

>>13922284
Kuzuha's sub20k stream brought them down. Ironic that the one carrying might also be the one blamed for the decline.

>>13922750
That's because you consider "vtuber" a "daily streamer".
Ayame just shifted back to the old Kizuna AI meta. She appears in collabs, she appears in the "anime" (Hologra), she streams once in a while and releases music and succeed at it without the daily grind

>>13895818
1 int post

>>13922980
it's a massive shift, in likelihood must be premieres from rof-mao

Yeah, if HoloEN doesn't wake up the new blood will encroach in their turf.
It's 7AM in Japan and Koyori is already at it

>>13923226
Oh shit, asacoco?!

>>13923198
Yeah, anyway, their chart is right and I'll fix mine with their numbers.

>>13923032
>all time high
>decline
>dead cat bounce #1
>decline
>dead cat bounce #2
It's following exactly as predicted in that chart. We'll see. Niji appears to have declined this year as well, but the overall average is still in line with 2019-2020 numbers.

>>13923226
I wonder if she can keep up with streams at this time

>>13923226
It's a blank slot for JP, Suba and Mio sometimes take it. There is a market for it while nips prepare for work/school

>>13909934
Why didn't this site catch samurai?
She had 33.7k

>>13923289
no, for hololive as a whole. yes if you are fixated with EN

>>13923280
Better. Morning zatsudan Subaru-style. Less ambitious than Asacoco, more sustainable. If it catches on, she can build a decent base on it.

>>13923226
>>13923280
She says it's a 50% zatsudan and 50% "radio" with some "corners," whatever that means, but it sounds to me like it's going to end up being just a morning zatsudan, assuming she really keeps it up at this slot. EOPs won't really watch that unless her radio corner has something really entertaining going on. Nips might flock to it though, but I think it's more likely to end up like Lamy's morning streams, which have a moderate audience. It all depends on what her "radio" ends up being like.

>>13923198
You are right, it had so many holos people overlooked Kazama

>>13923226
Beating Ina already... jp chubba beating EN chubba on burger time.. burgerbros.. Watch Ina

>>13923226

>>13922295
Most of it is 1 nousagi who is active around this time and jp primetime.

>>13922284
>>13922436
Here is the revised chart with the NipBro numbers.

>>13923226
their audience don't overlap, what are you talking about?

>>13923513
>their audience don't overlap, what are you talking about?
The audience most definitely overlap, that's the thing.

EN has a captive EOP audience and an "itinerant" JOP audience that watches EN for the cute noises (much like EOP watches JP chuubas).
EN is already not doing that good (see >>13923507), losing even (let's say) a fifth of their audience because JP started streaming in their slot won't be good.

>>13923469
This is getting tiring already. Save it for when the debut buff is gone and we have an actual grasp of what their numbers are going to be like.

>>13923486
made me check. Good bait.

>>13923409
Chart anon slipped?
>>13923425
>>13923433
Ah i see, would be cool if she also do the Subaru thing, put the EN translation about the current topic she's talking rn

>>13923280
too bad unlike with Asacoco, EoPs have no idea what Kyoyo's talking about.

>>13923623
just check holostats graph how it affected Ina, no need for guesses

>>13923226
How is this bad? The EN girls have a low jp viewerbase, those people weren't going to watch Ina or Kiara.

>>13923624
Nevermind them, I bet it's just Nijifags.
>If HoloX does succeed then they can keep pretending as Gen6fags and shit on EN.
>If HoloX fails to meet their absurd expectations, then they'll call them Edengumi 2.0

Win-win for Nijifags.

>>13923623
>itinerant" JOP
>not even 5% of their audience
stop being delusional

>>13923703
And therefor will watch maybe once and never again.

Watame made it into the Japanese next day still thanking supas.
After 6:30 am

>>13923289
>. Niji appears to have declined this year as well, but the overall average is still in line with 2019-2020 numbers.
IT'S FUCKING NOT! THEY'RE IN A FUCKING FREEFALL!

Here is the data
>Niji girls are in their all time low
>Niji overall is in the lowest point since 5 months after creation
>Niji boys are in the lowest point since Koshien 2020

If that doesn't ring a five alarm fire response from Anycolor they might as well go the Yumenographia route, graduate NijiID, NijiKR and the bottom 2/3 of NijiJP and keep only Kuzuha, Kanae, Fuwa, old man Maimoto, Ibrahim, Mito (maybe), Lize, Sasaki and some 2 or 3 I may be forgetting.

>>13923809
TOO STRONG

>>13923775
>Edengumi 2.0
That's actually Council

>>13921229
I actually think Chloe won't stay that popular for long. Unless I'm misunderstanding she's cutesy girl who will get tons of money but stuff like pure GFE and ASMR easy to get decent numbers but will hit celling pretty fast, kinda like porn. Also from that I have seen lots of EOP are checking new girl but they will probably leave soon.
Bird and Gozaru won't take off for months. Chloe and loli took most of the attention from them.
I agree with pink cat, she will probably settle with Botan or so. Although she may drop harshly, saw bunch of comment finding her annoying and bad at collabs at 5ch, she may end up becoming JP Kiara.
I think loli will settle somewhere in Pekora/Marin/Miko/Subaru tier. She seems to be the most unique and more importantly at least for now she's reaction streamer and she kinda carried collabs. Giving interesting reactions is easiest way to the top in streaming. She may mess it up if she barely stream or choose to stream trash.

>>13923507
Why were the numbers so off?

>>13911979
>>13909934
I know that the right hand side numbers are for max concurrent viewers, so what is the meaning of the numbers for 位 rank?

e.g Miko is 56位 but Ina is 62 位

>>13923845
that's actually en wave 3

>no english explanation about the corner
Yeah, she's aiming for the morning JP nikis, not the EN audience.

>>13923845
Yeah but Council > Edengumi.
And they still have the potential to incline if they get rid of their Laziness (kinda hard since they're naturally lazy)
Edengumi however have been grinding already and still falling.
Very good SC from Leos tho. But Council have Kronii & Sana for SC as well.

>>13923703
Asacoco only started getting subtitles months later during the week of streaming privilege loss so any EOPs missed a lot of the best stuff it had to offer anyway.

God, what a unique time its heyday was. I'd love to see something shake the scene up like that again but I can't imagine what it would take.

Do >we have november SC numbers yet?

>>13923954
even if she aims for eops most of them don't watch what they don't understand

>>13923902
Yeah Chloe and Laplus attracted all attention. But Koyori will surely be above Lui and Iroha. Unless Samurai manage to attract FF/FPS Autists

>>13923992
be patient anon it will come within 5 days. october's took a while

>>13923845
>Edengumi
>That's actually Council
Anon, plz.
>FUCKING SANA MOGS ALL OF EDENGUMI

More than that,
>FUCKING RISU (RISU!) OUTRANKS TWO OF EDENGUMI

They can't rank lower than that

>>13923817
Man wave 3 really fucked up niji en

>>13923902
5ch is really no measure of anything. They are essentially a gathering of contrarians.

I counted how many 10k+ holoEN had last month.
10,000+
>11/1 - 11/15: 44
>11/16 - 11/30: 30

0 - 9,999
>11/1 - 11/15: 43
>11/16 - 11/30: 74

idk what to say holoen bros...

>>13923917
>Why were the numbers so off?
They were not "so off" except for male Nijisanji. As nipbro doesn't disclose how they classify "men" and "women" and as I don't count Chronoir, ROFL-MAO and other groups as "men" or "women" (despite some of them being all male / all female) differences are expected

>>13924214
how many 10k+ nijiEN had last month?

do you guys manage media talents? you certainly write like you do

>>13923987
it's not about the subs though.
Asacoco had a lot of visual gags which anyone could pick up on, plus Coco randomly spoke english at times.
In general the flow of the show was easy to follow and react to even if you didn't understand what was happening.

for the 2nd part, the closes anyone has come to doing something like it, meaning a new type of series right out of the gate while many eyes are on you, has been Sana with her gag horoscope streams.
And we all know how that turned out.
That's why many people don't risk it right out the gate.

>>13924186
imagine getting mogged by a treerrat lmao

>>13924284
rude...

>>13924025
It's still possible to make content they understand without going full English, specially if you're doing a something like a variety radio format.

>>13923927
>e.g Miko is 56位 but Ina is 62 位
"位" = position. That's their sort unfiltered order in the live-ranking daily top
https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/archives-ranking?date=2021-12-01

>>13924207
.. Just like this place

>>13922295
Nah, its just one ass blasted Nutsagi upset that people would dare insinuate that Gura might be more popular than Pekora.

>>13924186
why are the receipts always so harsh in this thread holy shit

>>13924186
>Losing to an indog.
The state of endengumi, everyone.

>>13924284
Kek

>>13924190
The worst part is that Wave 3 was golden.
Pretty good streamers with good strengths, but debut too soon and split the audience too much.

Same as it ever was for Nijisanji.

>>13924422
Pretty much, but even worse, because when you say 5ch you usually mean only the general thread, while "this place" usually means the whole board, which at least has a certain variety of opinions across the board.

>>13924403
Tell me when she starts doing that and her debut buff wears off and then we can talk numbers.

>>13924284
They can't even get 10k simultenously.

>>13922750
I'm fairly sure it's because she streams so rarely that she gets her insane numbers on stream, although we can't really confirm that with her current schedule.

>>13924526
I don't think she will. That was the point of my first post.

>>13923987
>>13924338
>In general the flow of the show was easy to follow and react to even if you didn't understand what was happening.
And also the fact Coco was pretty much the first chuuba to unashamedly reference other streamers (like Watame "shitty connection") and incentivize discussion of other streamers.

Back then (and even to this day) there was an unwritten rule that ended up becoming a WRITTEN rule:
>do not mention other streamers unless I mention them first
Before Coco it was pretty much taboo for chat to ever mention even other Holos, most chuubas lived in isolation as if they were a standalone product.

Come Coco and throw away the rulebook and make common place to talk about other Holo streamers, pretty much giving birth to "the rabbit hole"

>>13924284
Stop, it hurts.

>>13924214
>44 10k+, 43 sub 10k
it is why they look strong here.

>koyo's hot news
It IS asacoco!

>>13923817
>graduate NijiID
Why? They're literally paid in peanuts

>>13924624
Here is the revised version of that chart with NipBro numbers

>>13924591
That's a load of bullcrap. Coco did a lot to strengthen the sense of BOX in hololive with asacoco, but she didn't invent it. Not even close to that.

>>13924739
In a whole company fashion? There were lots of "groups" in the company like AquShion, or Okakoro but the first to say "fuck it, just talk about everybody" was really Coco

>Eventhough the morning is weak
She knows CCV is weak in the morning?

>>13924698
Im talking about HoloENs first half (11/1 - 11/15) was strong af then they basically reclined afterward.

>>13923954
oh shit she's after us

>>13924872
She's not a morning person

Yeah, Gura most likely does not have 14k members

>>13924875
>they basically reclined afterward.
HoloEN numbers and Gura numbers go hand in hand.

If Gura sneezes HoloEN numbers catch a cold. Whenever she's absent their numbers take a nosedive

>>13924819
She was the first to intentionally create a place to talk about everybody, but she didn't invent the idea of hololive being a tight box. Even today it's not as if everybody talks about everybody, there are still clear networks of connections, some stronger, some almost non-existant.

>1 & 2

>>13924214
>equal number of streams at first half of the month
>more 0-9,999 streams at later half of the month
What happened here? Is someone drag down the viewers number

>>13924926
Several people have said before that fans engage far less with membership content than you would think. Most do it just to support their favorite and/or to have the unique emojis.

>>13925061
Do videos benefit at all from being in rending? I feel like no one goes on that tab ever

>>13924872
She has eng subs. She's targeting EOPs

>>13924940
this, no gura no big number for EN
Mori can fill in the chart but not as high as when gura did

>>13924940
niji syndrome where they rely on Kuzuha (Gura in holoEN case) kek why cant they replicate holojp multiple S / A tier holos

>>13925075
Sana came back, Mumei started streaming more and Kronii started streaming less.

>>13925043
Today's Hololive is actually so much more segmented than it was during the ARK boom. Even Aqua was going around collabing with new people.

>>13924875
Well between Gura being out and thanksgiving not a total shocker. Same will happen in December when outfits give them a huge boost but then the holidays most people have obligations

>>13925086
That's a cope. Marine and Pekora get more during their members streams

>>13925086
also for whatever reason, gura keeps doing member stream outside of her normal stream time even when she has nothing else scheduled

>>13925109
Yes, contributes to vod views. JP seems autistic in this category

>>13924926
That's a floor.
CCV =/= Total Views =/= Total Members

>>13925121
Still doesn't explain why the stream under 10,000 suddenly increases

Pink cat numberfagging again...

>>13925267
that's why she's our girl

>>13924875
>>13924940
There’s also Thanksgiving to take into consideration.

>>13924926
are you retarded?

>>13924214
Here is the complete number per company

Nijisanji
>0-9999: 2309 streams
>10000-19999: 109 streams
>20000-29999: 35 streams
>30000-39999: 9 streams
>40000+: 8 streams

HoloJP
>0-9999: 266 streams
>10000-19999: 146 streams
>20000-29999: 62 streams
>30000-39999: 42 streams
>40000+: 43 streams

HoloEN
>0-9999: 117 streams
>10000-19999: 59 streams
>20000-29999: 12 streams
>30000-39999: 2 streams
>40000+: 0 streams

>>13924926
Yeah, Gura most likely does not have 72K members.

>>13925348
This is for November btw

>>13925196
Pekora had 2 to 3k watching hers

>>13925348
>2309 streams
That can't be right

>>13925086
>>13925196
No cope, i can confirm.
And since i'm membered to 45 channels i can definitely tell you, waaaaaay fewer members catch member only streams live compared to engaging with member only community posts or polls for instance.
Mostly beacause those damn things are so hard to find on YT, but also because of time zones and short notice.
>>13924926
what was the number of likes on Gura's previous member only post?
I don't have her.

>>13925348
Wow! HoloEN is a separate company now!

>>13925514

>>13925348
42 streams of 30k+
43 streams of 40k+
Damn november is so fucking stacked

>>13925263
...because that is the usual what holoEN get beside gura and maaaaaaybe ina and kronii (when she actually stream)

Trying to discuss memberships zzzzz

>>13925348
>0-9999: 2309 streams
So, there were more Nijisanji streams under 10k than all streams from the other companies combined?

Also, probably better to split it into
>0-999
>1000-9999

>>13924926
at least 13k

>>13925348
>40000+: 0 streams

>>13920216
She's the mage of the company.

>>13920216
She's the best background noise, and I do not mean this in a backhanded compliment kind of way.

>>13925495
>That can't be right
>>13925667
>So, there were more Nijisanji streams under 10k than all streams from the other companies combined?
I had to double check. There are actually 102 channels under "NijiJP" moniker.

And NO, Yumenographia isn't included, they are not part of Nijisanji (before anyone ask)

>>13925569
man... you didn't need to post the whole thing, just the like rate.
Also, meant the previous post, not the one talking about the current stream. Since it had more time to be seen by her multi time zone members.

for instance, Marine more recent post

>>13925392
>VOD views
The absolute state of childfuckers
I give you she may be the one to have the most members from myth, but not that level.
Also
>Le pedobait ASMR
I know how horny chumpedos were back then on that stream

>gura comes back tomorow
>smart ina makes sure to beat the elite4 today at prime time
i like this tako

https://twitter.com/sakamatachloe/status/1466179503680417794

4 streams in one day. She is going all out

>>13925859
Still on that, here is for November 2021

NijiEN: 257 streams from 11 channels
NijiID: 280 streams from 20 channels
NijiKR: 281 streams from 20 channels
NijiJP: 1652 streams from 102 channels

>>13925683
>2 months ago
Nice job using obsolete data faggot

>>13925921
Did you even read the post before frothing from the mouth after seeing the image?