/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

Here it goes
>60,006: Ayame (Hololive)
>40,237: Miko (Hololive)
>39,359: Pekora (Hololive)
>38,174: Lui (Hololive)
>36,210: Fubuki (Hololive)
>35,780: Marine (Hololive)
>30,227: Iroha (Hololive)
>28,458: Suisei (Hololive)
>25,428: Iroha (Hololive)
>22,542: Laplus (Hololive)
>18,503: Flare (Hololive)
>18,090: Nene (Hololive)
>17,397: Watame (Hololive)
>17,236: Botan (Hololive)
>15,319: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>14,852: Mori Calliope (Hololive)
>13,571: Murasaki Shion (Hololive)
>13,562: Hayato Kagami (Nijisanji)
>12,560: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,898: Aqua (Hololive)
>11,854: Rushia (Hololive)
>11,728: Mio (Hololive)
>10,788: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,501: Moona (Hololive)
>10,423: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>10,027: Lamy (Hololive)

>>14196686
Hololive 23
Nijisanji 3

Holox's debut buff will end soon enough. 20k+ stream not being good enough to make the top 10 cannot last.

It's kind of impressive that despite streaming so damn much, Pekora still have so many content backlog she needs to do apparently. You would think she would ran out of shit to stream at one point.

>>14196838
Asking again here

>>14196686
The numberscreep is going insane

>>14196906
During weekends that was always Pekora's RPG timeslot

>>14196795

>3

Hal is not a Niji

Watame staying over 10k all night up to 5am as the 78,483rd vtuber to play the gen 4 remakes really is impressive, she's unrivalled in that nightime slot really

Since the timeslots are slowly getting spread out, do you guys think the EU timeslot can be conquered?

Man am i only one waiting for the sheer madness that HoloX first SC monetization streams will be

>>14197401
I mean it's EU prime time now and there's Matsuri and Izuru Apex so you tell me

>>14196795
Y'mean?
Hololive: 23
Nijisanji: 02
Others: 01

>>14197401
Can they beat Council and Edengumi i wonder? Sakamata and Iroha has a good chance of beating them

>>14197423
Meant for >>14197394

>>14197255
So if we were to divide streams based on time of day, would it look something like this?
>12AM - 6AM JST: Watame and Luna's timeslot. Also, Mr. Koro's slot whenever she wants to marathon kusoges
>6AM- 12PM JST: HoloEN's territory.
>12PM-6PM JST: Funnel slot. Usually gets handled by various Holos, mainly Kanata, to funnel viewers to the heavy hitters or whatever event is slated for the day
>6PM-12PM JST: Primetime. Pretty much Pekora and Marine's slot.

>>14197394
>EU
>watching chuubas
A bigger joke than the Yua line and a sadder tale than Kizuna Ai's pity 3M

>>14197523
I'm yuro and I watch, we exist.

>>14197186
he's a chumbud so he's an honorary holo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbDtM_5mWFw

>>14190392
That "Cover hates Pekora" narrative is so dumb anyway. Pekora requested that prison outfit just for one time use and management still gave it to her. Unless she paid it herself then just stfu.
and outfit is still outfit.
>I-it doesn't count!
Aqua took 2 years to finally get her first outfit last year. Mind you, Aqua carried the pre-covid/gen 4 Hololive in both stream and superchat numbers, was very popular and used to be the superchat queen until Coco and Rushia took her spot.

>>14197504
>12PM-6PM JST: Funnel slot. Usually gets handled by various Holos, mainly Kanata, to funnel viewers to the heavy hitters or whatever event is slated for the day
And Rushia. A normal day will usually have Rushia at 18 and Kanata at 19. Though Rushia has been kind of off-schedule recently due to the 3rd gen live and depression.

Why are people praising holox's talent when they're former 2views and don't seem to show much talent for anything besides riding a buff? They were born with the biggest silver spoons in their mouth in history, 100s could probably match it in the same spot. It's a miracle of branding, not scouting. The one with the highest debut number(and the 6th highest vtuber stream of all time) looks like she will be 4th place in her gen and be lucky to average 7k in a few months.

>>14197504
>6AM- 12PM JST: HoloEN's territory.
More like Ina and Lamy's timeslot, unless Koyori and Laplus stays on. If any other HoloEN does stream, can't do the same numbers as Ina, the Morning Queen.

>>14197812
>Why are people praising holox's talent
Wrong thread? People here are praising their numbers and their unashamed ways to ask for more numbers.

The “chuuba got talent wannabe judges” thread is down and to the right

>>14196483
Does this thread hates Ayame just like the rest of /vt/ or love her because she makes big numbers?

>>14197859
Gura?

>>14197912
This thread is not one person. I for one kneel to Ayame for her ever present huge numbers
>that’s a phone call I’ll never miss

>>14197912
Numberthread thinks she and her fanbase is an anomaly. Which makes it entertaining.

>>14197912
They mostly don't care about her since she only rarely comes in to drop a single big number and then vanishes for like a month or two

>>14197859
Most of HoloEN members are streaming at this timeslot

>>14197912
only when she mogs chuubas i like

>>14197912
Anon, this is the numbers thread. If a chuuba commits suicide on stream the only thing this place will care about is how many viewers she got

>>14198061
The thread will complain too that the suicide was too quick and it didn't pull more numbers.

>>14197899
You're forcing it too much at this point

>>14198108
and then we'll start developing optimal strategies of how to produce the suicide stream to get maximum numbers

>>14198108
>Wtf, it took her 2 hours to stop breathing?
>Fucking baiting superchats, HoloJP could do it in an hour.

>>14197912
the thread is swarmed with shitposters and falseflaggers. don't expect any genuine reaction except to numbers

>>14198145
I wish we had that anon that posted that girl's stream that was begging for money and even giving explicit permission to things to her. I wonder if we could have optimized her e-begging game further beyond.

>>14198145
What would be the most numberfag way of suicide as a vtuber?

>>14197912
>hates Ayame just like the rest of /vt/
What next? /vt/ hates Ui-mama too?

It's not the same as seeing a mid to high tier VTuber being lazy

>Lamy having a bit of a blow up
>Shion outright telling her members to never compare her to La+
>Nene seeming a little annoyed about how special fans are treating holox
>Kanata having her 3rd ever ASMR stream out of the blue in which she tells her viewers she loves them and will never leave them
>Ayame coming out of nowhere for a stream and mentions losing ground to holox
>Matsuri seeming like she's trying
>increase of activity from Haachama to include herself in the hype
>obvious increase in streaming time all around
They're shook. Bad move by Cover, never sew discord in the family.

>>14197711
Hal attended 0 Gura concerts and 1 Kuzuha concert.

>this thread is this
>this thread is that
alright enough fart smelling

>>14198193
and even then you have the nijinigger trying to push how CCV doesn't matter because it makes his side look bad

>>14198225
The opposite would be the case:
>give me views/subs or I take the easy way out

>>14198108
If that happened with a holomem the entire company would stop streaming for 1 or 2 days and half of the /#/ would be put on suicide watch

>>14198229
but /vt/ doesn't hate her though, unless you count those UI sex and rape threads as hate.

>>14198250
What was Cover supposed to do then? Ignore the tens of thousands of potential consumers just dying for a new cute girl to throw money at?

>>14198459
And for some reason someone HoloID will stream over the entire ordeal.

>>14198211
Got something I could use to archive dive that?

>>14198526
Kek

>>14198250
I don't think anyone expected HoloX to have great numbers and the staying power to change the holo landscape and while their numbers will normalize in a few weeks, of course people already on the job are fearful but because they can't interact on a meaningful way.
If this makes them to work some more after getting too relaxed, I'm all in on it.

>>14196686
>top 15 is all holos
First time seeing this kind of sweep uooogggghh

>>14197457
>Iroha
I think La+ will get more since she's been spamming these poorfag strat or.. Is she really one?

>>14198569
Best case scenario would be if an old Holo forcibly transforms their content for the better. I would love to see that happen.

>>14198250
people say numberrot is bad, but dramarrot is much worse, as you can all see

>>14198250
>increase of activity from Haachama to include herself in the hype
kek, one of these is not like the others

>>14197457
I think Chloe will have the most money from the start but Iroha is probably going to have the most gachikois together with La+, they are very endearing in a personal way

>>14198250
>increase of activity from Haachama
This sounds like you are talking about the awakening of something dangerous, like a volcano increasing activity

Monopolies are bad for the industry. Luckily, hololive will likely come crashing down in the next months as this is just their second and final dead cat bounce.

>>14198686
Numberrot can be sobered. /#/ may be drunk since the absurdity of HoloJP's numbers right now but attitudes will normalize.
>>14198569
I don't know. A seed can sprout. If numbers aren't increased all around was it really worth it if you annoy your talent?

>>14198900
timeloop...

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>Watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>Each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>Evil God Korone is an event game.
>All non holos are nijis
>muh subs to growth ratio
>I'd rather be popular with casuals in my own country than being viral in some backwater shit place
>Maybe we should compare Hololive proper to Nijisanji and leave gen 3 to themselves.
>Holo growth is bad
>I prefer quality numbers
>Moral victory
>Dead cat bounce

>>14198900
>anytime now

>>14198250
>Shion outright telling her members to never compare her to La+
>Nene seeming a little annoyed about how special fans are treating holox
Those sound like perfectly normal reactions that could barely be considered as conflict. You just put them in there to make your list seem bigger.
>Kanata having her 3rd ever ASMR stream out of the blue in which she tells her viewers she loves them and will never leave them
That was scheduled to happen for ages and it only happened now because Noel was too busy with 3rd gen live before. Kanata announced the day of the stream before she even knew the holoX debut date.
>Ayame coming out of nowhere for a stream and mentions losing ground to holox
Let's not kid ourselves, she probably wouldn't have made that stream if she didn't have goods she was required to shill.
>Matsuri seeming like she's trying
She's been doing that for quite some time now, and it has more to do with trying to compensate for the rejection she suffered after the haachama+hand drama.
>obvious increase in streaming time all around
I don't think that's happened at all if you exclude the extra streaming time brought by holoX, but you're free to prove me wrong.
>Lamy having a bit of a blow up
>increase of activity from Haachama to include herself in the hype
I'll give you those.

How many Holos have at least 1M Twitter followers now?

>>14198919
>/#/ may be drunk since the absurdity of HoloJP's numbers right now but attitudes will normalize.
The question is where will they normalize. It might not matter to you, but for holos the potential of being in a worse position than they were before once things stabilize can't be easy to ignore.

>>14197812
t. seething 2view

>>14199061
Sorry anon, the gypsy fortune telling thread is some other than this.
Your point seems to be
>the downside of debuting what seems to be a very successful generation (one that rose up the numbers and interest in hololive to a point so high the watched hours yesterday was higher than the one on Coco graduation, except spread through some 30 streams) is so big they might as well not have debuted them

If that’s the point it is a dumb one and REEKS of nijicoep and trying to find a rationalization for the success of others
>they’re winning now but their undoing will come! OH HOW I WISH!

>>14198976
HOLOCOPE LIST
>Dead subs
>Cope with loseing to Koshin
>Crying due to lost of chinese market
>Have to graduate reddit dragon for numbers
>Precious EN market is dieing
>Getting less sponsorships then nijisanji
>Holostars losing to nijisanji en
>Nijisanji EN is not inclining
>Shitty graphs that make no sense
>My Vod views
> The debuff buff will last
I could go on but this is more then enough

>>14199192

>>14199061
That would be up to their retention skills if they can keep their audience interested and get the endgame viewers who watch them for the personality and not the content.

>>14198900
good
we need something new
just like kizuna ai in 2017
like hololive in 2020

>>14197718
>Unless she paid it herself then just stfu.
Why are you so confident when you are wrong?

>>14199192
Eslchama check your spelling

>>14199192
no i think you do need go longer. most of these arent a bad thing even.
>EN market dying
i hope

>>14199192
These aren't even copes

>>14199192

>>14199007
6 i think

>>14199192
Like a 6 year old shouting "No! You!". I'm not mad anon, just disappointed...

>>14199192
>this is more then enough
kek. Also
>nijiblokes can’t meme
And no, “no u” is not a meme

>>14199169
Get your tribalism obsession somewhere else. The point is just that talents feeling unease about their future in the company can be a bad thing, specially when the bonds between the talents is such a big part of the brand. It's probably just a temporary problem, and it can have positive side-effects like other anon's pointed out, but it's still worth paying attention to.

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>Watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>Each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>Evil God Korone is an event game.
>All non holos are nijis
>muh subs to growth ratio
>I'd rather be popular with casuals in my own country than being viral in some backwater shit place
>Maybe we should compare Hololive proper to Nijisanji and leave gen 3 to themselves.
>Holo growth is bad
>I prefer quality numbers
>Moral victory
>Dead cat bounce
>No u

>>14199346
It is still not numbers.

>>14199192
>Doesn't even know how to differentiate a cope from a statement
3rd world education chama...

>>14199002
And Lamy had the same reaction to Myth, it just wasn't as public. Same as Haachama, she did the same thing back then.

>>14199346
I mean some anons in previous threads made a funny narrative that Fubuki and other heavyweights went hard numbers these past few days to make the old holos realize that they are not irrelevant yet.

>>14199372
It's directly related to numbers. If you're not going to allow discussion about how talents act on and react to the ebb and flow of numbers you might as well nuke half of the posts in these threads.

>>14198900

>>14199452
kek

>>14199441
At least pretend it’s about numbers. People at very least keeps a kayfabe.
As it is you’re not even connecting anything to quantifiable matters, you’re pretty much saying
>Gen6 debut made chuubas uneasy. That is bad.
Which could be right, could be wrong but it’s speculation and not numbers related at all, doesn’t even pretend to be

>>14199452
Kek

>>14199452
SAVED!

>>14199452
Top fucking kek.

>>14199539
The first post I made, which you reacted to going schizo about tribalism, was about how there's no way to know where the numbers will be when they stabilize.

>>14199192
If you're going to try to copy the nijicope list, seething ESL nijikek-kun, then at least spell properly. This is just pathetic and barely coherent.

>>14199612
>was about how there's no way to know where the numbers will be when they stabilize.
WOW, that was really insightful.

Okay, since we're full on dead hours right now, just something I'd be interested to know your thoughts on. Which NijiJP (or any niji for that matter) would have been the best bridge to the western market? We all know Rin and Hana pretty much screwed the pooch by filtering their new audiences instead of assimilating them. But was there a Niji that could have spearheaded a takeover of the western market? Maybe Lulu? Gibara if she actually streamed?

>>14199738
Bilingual and virality is the key anon.

>>14199778
Korone and FBK can't speak english for shit.

>>14199738
>Maybe Lulu?
One of the few niji chuubas I’ve seen namedropped in holo EOP circles as some sort of allusion to be “merely an inoffensive art student”, specially during Haachama schizo lore and during the period Ina was sticking to her “ancient ones student” lore.

>>14199738
Hoshikawa, if she had been the one who sung country roads instead the entire thing would've been flipped

>>14198630
Check deresute stream viewer graph

>>14199738
Hana and Hoshikawa would have been the perfect bridge
I will never understand why they never push them

>>14199778
I respectfully disagree with that, anon. Korone and Fubuki's english wouldn't even pass primary school but they were able to connect and assimilate their respective kaigainiki's. Coco of course also helped greatly but even she rarely spoke English in most of her streams.

>>14199870
>>14199811
Temperament is more important than ability.

>>14199192
Underage indog should stay in facebook

>>14196686
Is this an insane fluke or is the vtuber market itself growing?

>>14199799
>>14199910
Yes virality alone could just carry it, but as anon asked above, if niji doesn't want another Rin filter situation again being a bilingual maximizes the chance of assimilating western fanbase.

>>14199811
Whatever the fuck happened to Hoshikawa's attempt at courting the EN market? I distinctly remember her really trying to tie her name to NijiEN prior to their debut but I don't think she's ever mentioned them after. Was she expeting Lazulight to blow-up similar to Myth and when they didn't she just dropped them like a sack of potatoes?

>>14199979
New gen buff brought alot of tourist in hololive, and indirectly kicked everyone to stream harder.

>>14199998
You'll have to ask in the niji thread for more details, but as far as I can tell she just stopped trying shortly before NijiEN debuted.

>>14199805
in retrospect, that sort of feels like how nijifans kept trying to slide nijiENs into the hololive subreddit with barely-related posts earlier this year

but I think that the Lulu posts were probalby genuine

>>14199738
Didn't Himawari had a fledgling EOP following back in the day before Hololive blew up? She was also playing stuff like Ark and Souls games and in general was pretty popular. What happened with her? Seems like her growth completely stagnated.

>>14200055
They only did it to hype up nijisanji en. Now that nijisanji has thier own waves and breakout talent Selen there is no need for her to do it anyone

I can't wait until Fagoo starts shilling for NFTs with his shitty game and bankrupts Cover in the process, causing mass graduations. Holobronies are truly cocky if they think they're invincible and have no chance of going down. Look what happened with up8 and .LIVE.

>>14199979
I think it's Hololive taking over the JP market from Nijisanji. The level of growth that the main branch experienced probably engrained them to the tourist who were more than willing to jump in once a new gen was introduced just to get that rep of "knowing a talent when they just started". Holo's box pushing strat also helped to distribute some of the tourist to the other Holos, hence the increase in JP numbers across the board.

>>14197771
I'm pretty sure its been Rushia at 18, Kanata at 19 and Marine 20 for a long time. Although since returning from her break, Marine's schedule has been a bit all over the place.

>>14200149
Can't take over the JP market till you take over all stores, Hololive is finally branching out into this in 2021.

>>14200111
Yep. Right after Lamy publicly slaps Laplus for stealing her numbers. A-any day now.

>>14200149
do the talents/management in hololive or vtubing explicitly know funneling and boxpushing?

>>14199979
3rd holobuff arc

>>14200087
Took a break during Niji flop month and it killed her numbers. Before that she had some non stream obligations with some tv show. Then she got the coof.

>>14200199
i think 3 - i know 2 of the holox genmates directed viewers to wamy and nene

>>14200203
What, you think they do it accidentally?

>>14200203
They do obviously.

>>14200101
That's a seriously bad bet if thats really their thought process. Selen is more like a less talented Aqua, not to mention she's too dependent on one buff game that's coincidentally dying. NijiEN doesn't need an Aqua, they need an FBK or a Sora that will stabilize the ship enough so that when they do get that real superstar talent, said talent actually has a solid jumping off point.

>>14200111
oh that reminds me I need to make a yagoo thread on the catalogue, one moment

>>14196686
>10,423: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
You will never see Pekora get this low in viewership which is what kind of separates them when it comes to power in my opinion. Hell, you rarely see the other top tiers like Marine, Miko, Subaru, Ayame, etc. get this low either. Even Miko's debuffed Pokemon stream going against the new generations first streams with huge overlap still hit 14k.

>>14200149
>I think it's Hololive taking over the JP market from Nijisanji
That’s a bold hypothesis. It’s not that far fetched tho
>NijiJP reclining, specially the girls
>HoloJP inclining

It’s not backed by anything tho, but it’s not a bad conjecture.

>>14199192
why are you coping with a cope about coping of the other company's supposed to be cope list yet it's not even composed of copes? Now it just looks like you are coping with copes without even knowing what "cope" means...cope

>>14200276
That's a tremendous ask, Fubuki is the soul of Hololive. Who's the soul of Nijisanji?

It's over isnt it, there's no third 'gura killer'

>>14199192
>creating a bad cope list to attempt to counter the infamous NijiCOPE list
Add it to the list NijiCOPE list anon

>>14200399
K-king...

>>14200399
>Who's the soul of Nijisanji
Mito, unironically.

>>14200361
Nijikeks can't meme

>>14200303
anon, her shin chan streams weren't that far off, please check yourself before you wreck yourself

>>14200407
already did bro, scroll up

>>14199539
it would be very hard to remove all speculation from these threads. (and why would you?)

>>14200406
>Only Orca and Cunny are successful
Oh no no no Gen 6 keks not like this

i know its too early but this far in the month, whos winning on those live "watched hours"? is it pekora, fubuki or some of the holox?

Predictions?

>>14200506

The lowest I have seen from her in Shin-chan was 13k. Which is still way better than 10k on one of the most popular FPS right now

>>14200406
There's still no second, and the first is still potential gura killer.

>>14200551
Sometimes it connects with numbers and it’s interesting. In that particular case tho, it’s a basic bitch gypsy fortune telling
>releasing a new gen may be bad because the old girls could get jealous
It’s a dumb take and makes everybody dumber by reading it.

>>14200418
Yeah, and Mito isn't exactly going to shill the overseas branches outside of the mandated shoutouts by management. That's also another problem with Niji's culture. The international branches are looked at as sideshows/ little sister branches. None of the livers or fans actually consider them as equal to the main branch. This was also a problem for Hololive too. The defunct CN branch and the ID branch were pretty much considered as sideshows by the main JP branch. Of course that shit changed real quick when Myth debuted and when PekoMoon became a thing.

>>14200552
>r-ruirui is a good singer
>koyori playing long playthroughs will pay off just like gen 3
>samurai is inclining

>>14200611
3 digits.

>>14200641
have you looked at lapi's numbers and the type of streams she gets them from?

>>14200611
Not sponsored/10

>>14200611
They won't sponsor you nijimidgets

>>14200707
Is this going to be like the edengumi thing again where people conveniently forget that the debut buff exists and assume debut numbers are the new norm?

Hololive doesn't steal many viewers from Nijisanji and vice versa. The main thing is who excites their base to engage more and who is growing their base more. Sponsors pick based on a number of factors but demographics are important, I really wonder why they don't play both sides more. The main competition for these two agencies are video games, anime, Netflix, TV, hanging out with friends etc.

>>14200611
are they at least releasing a Turing Love cover?

>>14200121
The bot was like
"nah, you're growing too fast according to my algorithm. resetting the live viewer count"

>>14200121
i hate susan

Koyori 10k

>>14200303
>>14200638
Stop judging numbers without context. That Kuzuha stream happened out of nowhere and was in the middle of the morning. He never streams during the morning.

>>14200942
might just be youtube servers. same thing happened yesterday

>>14200871
>I really wonder why they don't play both sides more.
For some reason Hololive found it very hard to find partnerships with other companies after September 2020.
I can’t quite put my finger on why (it’s a mystery) but, other than some very brave exceptions, most other companies put a 10 foot pole between them and Hololive, forcing them into an even more self sustaining behavior.

>>14196686
Where is Reddit Duck? I thought you guys said she was "S-tier" now and ahead of Miko?

>>14200987

>>14201018
She didn't stream yesterday dumbass, now you just look stupid picking fights against a ghost

not looking good nijibros...

gonna start comparing the rest

>>14196686
>#25
kuzukeks nice oshi you got there, kek

>>14201018
she is though

>>14199738
As fat as the EoP audience was concerned, Lulu at least was very self contained.
Her kaigai audience was/is pretty substantial, more than that of some HoloJP, but considering how she streamed mostly solo, and how people liked to watch her, that never expanded to the rest of Nijisanji.
Hell many thought she was in Hololive actually, or didn't care what a vtuber company is.
Even if she had 80% EoP listeners, i don't think many would have cared to check out the rest of Niji.
Even Lize, her long time radio partner, many EoPs didn't know she existed.

>MATSURI IN KOYORI'S CHAT
GROOMER SPOTTED
>MATSURI IN KOYORI'S CHAT
GROOMER SPOTTED
>MATSURI IN KOYORI'S CHAT
GROOMER SPOTTED

>>14200987
Do kuzucopes really?

>>14201136
The KING has been overthrown by 24 wenches

>>14201103
>that absolute mogging
ANykara seriously needs another Koshien (an event that'll give them a month long buff) or a Kuzuha that's less dependent on APEX.

>>14201155
>many EoPs didn't know she existed.
That’s more of a systemic flaw on that side of the divide than something particular for Lulu.

>>14201178
I mean, she and Haachama do this with every new gen. They're making the newbies feel welcome.
Plus, we already know Matsuri's favorite is La+.
Valorant collab imminent.

>>14201129
maybe the timeslot is bad for her

>>14196686
>Still hit 10k at a super debuff game
king I kneel

>>14201103
Do you rike gold medals anon?

>>14201306
>numbers at 6jst are wamy tier

>>14201042
>>14201190
I wonder how do you cope with this. A prime time scheduled stream with debut buff that was under 10k for the majority of its duration.

>>14201306
>>14201346
Is this because her restricted Twitter so she can't advertise her stream? Or just really bad timeslot?

>>14201425
Debut buff wore off for her probably

>>14201340

>>14201407

Seems fair to compare a FPS stream to a demo of a card game RPG one. Try better next time

>>14201407
Wow, Kuzukeks are reduced to picking on the rookies. What a sad lot you have become. Has some serious vibes of Rome relying on barbarian mercenaries during the later years of the empire. What a fall.

>>14201425
Bad timeslots, meh idea
most holos twitts barely reach 10k
While they spamming threads across the days is ok for subs, that shit is wearing off, i think they all should focus on jp time rather. Otherwise lap+and chloe will take all the tourist.

* List of Gold, Q4 2021 so far *

OCTOBER
1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.5k - Summer craft championship
19) Suisei (Hololive) - 83.5k - Outfit Reveal
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 26.4k - Minecraft
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 63.2k - Survival Island End Stream
22) Pekora (Hololive) - 32.2k - Minecraft
23) Hal (Indie/Merise) - 45k - Merise Announcement
24) Miko (Hololive) - 65k - Sportfes Announcement
25) Miko (Hololive) - 32.7k - Minecraft (Sportfes preparation)
26) Rushia (Hololive) - 30.4k - Umamusume gacha
27) Pekora (Hololive) - 50k - Minecraft (PekoMiko)
28) Hal (Merise) - 35k - Apex Custom (Stacked Pros&Preds)
29) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.8k - Minecraft
30) Marine (Hololive) - 76k - Return stream
31) Yozora Mel (Hololive) - 58.3k - Birthday 3D

NOVEMBER
1) Marine (Hololive) - 34.7k - Karaoke
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 42.5 - Minecraft (Sport fest prep)
3) Chronoir (Nijisanji) - 48.9k - Announcement
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 36.4k - Rhythm Heaven
5) Luis Cammy (Nijisanji) - 39.4k - 3D Debut
6) Miko (Hololive) - 81.5k - Minecraft Sports Fest
7) Miko (Hololive) - 69.7k - Sport Fest Totsu
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.6k - Evil God korone
9) Subaru (Hololive) - 44k - Evil God Korone
10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 56k - Kuzuha Concert Free Part
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 55k - First FFXIV stream
12) Fumi (Nijisanji) - 38k - 3D Debut
13) Rushia (Hololive) - 81k - Outfit reveal
14) Marine (Hololive) - 81.8k - Subaru's High profile case
15) Lamy (Hololive) - 83.3k - Birthday 3D
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 31.8k - Ape Escape 3
17) Marine (Hololive) - 34k - Bus Simulator
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 82.5k - Minecraft Mod with Marine
19) Towa (Hololive) - 47.5k - Mario Party
20) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 95k - Splatoon Tourney day 1
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 88.2k - Splatoon Tourney day 2
22) Subaru (Hololive) - 31.5k - Pokemon Challenge (vs Okayu)
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.7k - Karaoke Relay
24) Noel (Hololive) - 56.9k - Birthday Totsu
25) Hololive (Hololive) - 58.6k - Gen 3 Concert Free Part
26) La+ (Hololive) - 167.6k - Debut
27) Lui (Hololive) - 149.8k - Debut
28) Koyori (Hololive) - 180.5k - Debut
29) Chloe (Hololive) - 176.7k - Debut
30) Iroha (Hololive) - 175.8k - Debut

DECEMBER
1) Chloe (Hololive) - 98,821 - Archived Karaoke
2) Chloe (Hololive) - 74,800 - The Radio Station
3) Hololive ch (Hololive) - 52,239 - Announcement
4) Shion (Hololive) - 93,815 - Outfit Reveal
5) Chloe (Hololive) - 63,541 - Unarchived Karaoke
6) Ayame (Hololive) - 59,998 - Return stream

>>14201103
BRING BACK KOSHIEN

>>14201527
nijisanji will not get swept by Hololive in December
Mark my words

>>14201527
>16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament
I miss Kuzumoggings

>K-King… ;-(

I also miss when it was possible to win gold with a 26.2k daltonism mode Mario Kart stream. It would barely make top 10 today

>>14201103
You can see the holo decline and the dead cat bounces in that image... we got too cocky holobros.

>>14201407
genmate streamed over her, cant remember
>>14201425
while the last data that proves me is a a few streams old, she got 20k with a similiar stream during 11am JST

>>14201517
*Spamming stream across the day

>>14201425
the 22k stream was on a weekend so take and idea

>>14201527
Hololive: 53
Nijisanji: 11
Others: 3

>Pekora alone has 16 wins (higher than Nijisanji altogether lmfao)

>>14201733
>mumei
>50k subs in the month
the fuck. isnt that like top 10?

>>14201692
What the fuck even is a dead cat bounce

>>14201527
15 wins streak

>>14201792
*wanted to include the columns

>>14201797
When you hit an all time high, decline, and then bounce back a few times only to decline again. Hololive is sure following that pattern right now.
>inb4 but so is Niji
Yes, but the average is still in line with their 2019 numbers.

>>14201527
Total Golds over the last 2 months by talent (not including main channels)

Pekora: 16
Miko: 4
Subaru: 4
Marine: 4
Chloe: 4
Hal: 3
Ayame: 2
Noel: 2
Kuzuha: 2
Rushia: 2

The following talents all had 1 gold in the time period

Korone, Fubuki, Luna, Kanae, Naraka, Suisei, Mel, Cammy, Fumi, Lamy, Toya, La+, Lui, Koyori, Iroha, Shion

>>14199738
>Lulu
I actually think Lulu could've done it but Nijifags back on /jp/ shunned people who watched her since she has one of the biggest EOP audiences. In other words, the gatekeeping culture shot themselves in the foot.

>>14201879
So why does this apply in this context? There are no investors buying into something at a slight jump driving the price of something up temporarily in hopes of recovery. The mechanics of a dead cat bounce doesn't apply since median viewership is just people watching streams and investors. The people watching streams have no vested interest in peak CCV medians the same way investors have money to try and manipulate a market.

>>14201839
Outside sana
council really is above the avergae on subs gain reagrding most holos, i wonder why Jops dont like to suscribe

>>14201989
>Ayame: 2
>Kuzuha: 2
Oujo-dama, I KNEEL!

>>14202001
It's not just the vtubers, nijifags also self-sabotage themselves.

>>14201989
Oh No, it's a tie between Subaru and Miko.
Will be interesting if Miko got BTFO by "le reddit duck" lmfao

>>14200904
do they even know enough Japanese to sing it?

>>14201792
54k is really bad for someone who debuted 3 months ago

>>14202217
Your number brain rot is at critical levels. Go to the emergency room.

>>14201103
will Hololive win the month by the 16th?

>>14202274
most likely

>>14201407
>>14201733
found the data; it was a tough day being HoloX, lui's first singing stream got derailed the hardest with two 20k+ streams from subaru and pekora.
Koyori does get low numbers in her game streams so far, but she lost at least 2k from Lapi specifically 30 mins in, got it back as soon as Lapi ended (you see it in that graph there)

>>14202179
Elira's fluent and Finana can learn the song phonetically, so yes.

>>14202217
it really isnt, usually 30k a month is the normal for most.(1k a day)
i tought council would be lower that is all

>>14201527
>31) Yozora Mel (Hololive) - 58.3k - Birthday 3D
this for me was the turning point.

>>14202073
They do to some extent. Popularity of streamers correlates with investors, merch, sponsorships and advertisement. Cover is investing quite a bit of money in advertising their streamers in Japan. Hololive advertisements are everywhere there now compared to a year ago. It's a boost in popularity that might be temporary as Cover runs out of money for that purpose and directs it to their NFT-ridden Genshin clone instead.

>>14202304
should be interesting to see

>>14202319
That was the same day as Kuzuha's Vampire cover failing to reach 1 million faster than Gura's songs. That was a delicious thread.

>>14202274
till this Thursday. Hololive 3D sora & lamy cant compete with toya's niji marika

>>14201879
ohhhhhhhh so it's not about the cats that actually died afterall....

>>14201989
>2 streams, 2 golds

MONETIZATION TOMORROW

>>14202556
queen of min maxing

Monetization already? How long did it take for council again?

koyo monetizing tomorrow? did i catch it right?

>2nd weakest HoloX vs 2nd weakest Council
Place your oh-so-easy bets

>>14202520
I am a holofag but I really hope Toyo will put up a fight. I really miss the good old HoloJP and NijiJP battles. Whatever the result is, we will get good numbers that that.

>>14202650
that's nice but it's Sora

>>14202649
My money on the samurai...she been getting more attention with more stream

>>14202612
One and a half week for Kronii, can't remember others.

>>14202743
Iroha is being slept on. if you watch her, she is very cute and likable. not to mention her English is pretty decent as well. Lui will be last in her gen but that's okay since she's one of the least numberfag ones along with Iroha.

>>14202612
>if I can't win in numbers i will win in supaachat!

にじさんじ(151人) 同接1万以上の動画数 number of 10,000+
>2020年9月348配信
>2021年4月153配信
>2021年5月144配信
>2021年9月81配信

Does anyone have data for October and November?

>>14202787
no she isn't being slept on... she plays super buffed games like Jump King, RFA and Fall Guys.
Supa Leech Mori is hugging her stream chat

>>14202650
it's a tourney marika, last year got 100k so they'll probably hit that again

>>14202649
samurai will win since is debut buff stilllingering
but the waiting room is dissapointing so probably less than last time.
>>14202787
unless they have a bombastic personality hiyori, iroha and lui will be left behind unless they comes with something really creative or have some unique taste on videogames.

>>14202857
I thought Thursday is the draft, not the actual tournament?

>>14202253
Inside the top 10 Mumei is losing to Fubuki and only beating Marine and Mori. Just after 3 months she already declined to the same level of growth as someone who debuted 15 months ago. That's how bad Council is doing, she will need at least 1 more year to reach a million subscribers and probably will graduate before getting 2 mil.

Why no one watching bae come back stream?

>>14202933
cause this is not her thread?

>>14202901
oh is it? well should still be a gold contender

>>14202933
Nijisanji En is streaming.

>>14202649
Say what you will about their numbers, but i think they're both the hottest of their gen at least.

>>14202324
What drives prices and what drives watchers are very different. Investors are watchers are very different types of actors, their motivations and how they interact with the market are different. Actors and their decisions drives everything. Let's think of the difference between watchers and investors. The actions taken by investors is very related to the prices and speculation of future prices, this is extremely dependent on prices. Watchers are driven by interest in content and awareness, this is not dependent on peak CCV.

I don't think advertising concerts is a significant part of this equation, the rise to prominence happened well before the concert advertisements.

>Popularity of streamers correlates with investors, merch, sponsorships and advertisement.
We don't have raw stock price data. We cannot accurately measure how much a rise and drop in CCV actually affects stock prices. We can suppose that it has gotten higher since the collabs/sponsorships are happening more often and at larger scales things are probably rising.

>>14202995
I'm not sure. Nijifags, care to chime in and explain the tournament?

>>14202933
who?

>>14202650
>https://twitter.com/rei_toya_rei/status/1334168182056050694?s=21
last years announcement 33.5k likes 46k peak
>https://twitter.com/rei_Toya_rei/status/1467169695958994944
this years announcement 65.8k likes
50k-70k atleast

In nijikeks defense, they still hold an absolute lead in male Vtubers department. Cover opted for simp-farming and give very little limelight to stars.

I would say that holo females stomped niji females and Niji males did the same to holostars.
1-1.

>>14203076
so they're drafting on Thursday, right?

>>14202798
Chloe has a history of getting good SCs. La+ said she doesn't need gachikois but also promised she wouldn't collab with guys. Lui has been farming gachikoi on twitter. Not sure what Koyori and Iroha do.

>>14203076
isn't anykara paying twitter for more exposure? since when was that?

>>14203123
But in the end Holo females stomp Niji males.

>>14201989
Towa...

>>14203123
>strawberry fags

>>14203176
Cope Holofags my man toya is getting gold tommorow. Always know it's not how start it's but how you finish. Nijisanji may have a slow start this month but starting tomorrow we are coming back

>>14203123
its one of their most retarded decisions, they made something out of it, but still is inferior to separate girl groups

>>14203027
>What drives prices and what drives watchers are very different
They are both related to the popularity of a product. In my opinion, this is what explains the decline and then the bounces afterward; Cover noticed that their streamers were declining in popularity and decided to invest more in advertising them, causing these ups and downs in viewership. Whether they'll decline further or not it remains to be seen.

>comeback stream
Mogged de gozaru

sword girl at 10k with mega buff game ring fit
its ogre..

holy shit she's moving fast

>>14203143
>12月10日

iroha sub 15k is disappointing, rat is at sub 5k

>>14203293
If you want to believe that good for you.

Iroha must be fit as fuck, imagine her firm booty right now

>>14203342
naisu de gozaru

>>14203423
although I'm also jacking it right now, this isn't the right place to talk about it unless if you want to incorporate her numbers into it

>>14203363
did you mean mega buff literally? I thought it gets regular stream numbers

>>14203384
well debut buff is running out

being fit on rfa is a debuff. being a hag and getting easily tired and panting is a huge buff, especially in vod views. RFA is pretty much a better version of ASMR in that the lazier you are the more you get rewarded.
>hope lui gets art like this

>>14203363
Councilkeks coping rrat can't get 10k comeback stream roru

>Gura members only
Gura why do you hate numbers? You're powerful enough to rule above everything.

Here's some cover song ranking numbers since I didn't see it talked about.
For a long time Hololive was so far ahead in this metric that it was hilariously not worth tracking, the first week we tried, Holo had 5 times more views than the Niji top 50, but the song plays have been fluctuating heavier and declining for Holo while mostly being steady for Niji.
This week a lot of big new songs see Niji for the first time at least be close.
Category - Hololive - Nijisanji
Pos 50 - 43k - 46k
First 50k - 43 - 42
First 100k - 16 - 21
First 200k - 8 - 5
First 500k - 4 - 3
First 1mil - 1 - 2
New - 9 - 12
Pos 10 - 159k - 155k
Pos 5 - 455k - 276k
Pos 4 - 590k - 383k
Pos 3 - 830k - 517k
Pos 2 - 860k - 1087k
Pos 1 - 1638k - 1463k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8EIYLRf_yU
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/r95xab/nijisanji_covers_weekly_ranking_for_the_first/

>>14203582
Nah
RFA being repeated is far from debut.
Luna, towa, Kanata,etc.

>>14203597
sad boom boom

>>14203641
Next week gonna be bodied with La+ kamiipoi
Next

>>14203688
I mean, Suisei's Phony will have another 1 million by then too, so will the Mori-Milky Ussewa.
That's why it's at least impressive that Niji was close this week.
Next it'll be a blowout again.

>>14203330
>decline
The 2021 trend line is relatively stable, the slope of the trend line is about -35 viewers, or -0.0024%. If we had a moving average graph we'd get a better understanding since we wouldn't be limited to arbitrary limits like months starting and ending but outside of the Coco buff and the gen 6 buff HoloJP is converging on 14.3k.

>>14203654

When Luna did RFA it was adding some goal to it (I will play it until reach X subs). Towa and Kanata RFA series never really went that much above her medians

>>14203925
I would definitely rather watching an older lady play it

>>14203925
is a shit game to repeat
hell most of holox is just repeating almost the same streams in the moring.

>>14203123
Niji males don't even do that well. Its literally all Kuzuha. The other males are barely above Holostars tier and they are usually never talked about.

>>14200276
Paw Patrol, the buff game

>>14204340

>>14203641
Fuck off Nijinigger. Nobody cares about Nijishitty.

>>14204451
>They are all sub 10k except for Kuzuha
Thanks for making my point. Toya doesn't count by the way because he streams about as often as Ayame.

>>14204516
>Barely
>50% more than double
Has numberrot got to your brain anon?

>>14204451

And from all those Akina, Albio, Mayuzumi and possible Kanae as well (surgery) going on a break. Basically only Fuwa and Kuzuha being really active from the most watched since Toya don't stream much.

>>14204600
So only Kuzuha. Fuwa is a 2view.

>>14204600
Yeah but compared with the top Holostar, most Nijimales are doing great. Is really unfair, just like putting HoloJP against Nijifemales.

>>14204087
That's good for building a routine though

>>14204731
i agree but not for streaming

>>14202933
>Why no one watching bae come back stream?
She built her viewerbase with the SEA/Korean crowd.

>>14204703
I'd classify Kuzuha as a 2view as well if we are being honest with ourselves. Did you not see his stream yesterday?

>>14204782
De gozaru >>>>>>> boom2

>>14204600
>Akina, Albio, Mayuzumi
midgets. its Hayato, Yashiro, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Toya, Kanae, and Kuzuha are their big male streamers.

>>14203641
Nobody cares about Nijisanji dude. Stop wasting your time and go back to your ghetto.

>>14204516
>>14204600
>Toya
5 streams in a month, that's like having 10 Ayame's!

>>14204849
And only Kuzuha and Toya have chances of winning in normal days.

Why is no one talking about chloe passing kronii?

>>14204941
Previous thread

>>14201792
She was 2nd place before Gen 6 debuts and Fubuki Shiny hunting.
>>14202099
Numberrot is a hell of a drug.

>>14204941

>>14204849

Eh, only Kanae Kuzuha and Fuwa are really consistent between those. Yashiro plays too much debuff games, Sultan goes from 20k with Pokemon while 5k playing something else.. Hayato has been doing well lately tho. And Toya is Toya.

>>14204941
It happened already and Kronii was more depressed lately with tweets

>>14205247
Only Kuzuha gets good numbers and I'm even beginning to question that after yesterday's stream.

>>14205252
why depressed? I always thought she doesn't care about numbers

>>14204767
It can be if viewers are conditioned to tune in every day at the same time for the same content, there is a reason why we recommend consistent timeslots for successful chuubas

>both holox girls shilling other girls
AHH, this gen is perfect in terms of unity and numberfagging

>>14205412
Who are they shilling? HoloEN?

>>14205510

>>14205356
She probably hasn't stopped lurking 4chan and the anti-council posting has been higher recently. I really wish Cover banned their talents from 4chan..
>>14205412
They have to get along. The family is a balancing act and you never know who will have a menhera attack.

>>14205558
cute

>>14205405
Yeah but spreading yourself over 2-3 different timeslots everyday is not a good way to condition people. UNLESS it is something really special. See asacoco

>>14204885
>>14204460
Nice samepost

reminder that Suisei and Sora hate tribalists.
Even if you pretend to be one, you are going against Sora, which means you can't call yourself a Holobrony.

>>14205412

>Iroha: Mio-senpai has a celebration stream at 20:00 JST so my jumpking stream will start from 18:00JST to 20:00 JST

>Iroha: Shion senpai will have her birthday celebration stream tomorrow and if I reschedule my stream to another time it might overlap with my gen mates' stream so I will move it to another day

>Iroha: My horror game stream will be rescheduled to saturday as well

U N I T Y

>>14204823
sex=sex

>>14205657
Based not mentioning ENfailure

>>14205657
holy shit this girl is perfect

>>14205657
what a good girl

>>14205574
>She probably hasn't stopped lurking 4chan and the anti-council posting has been higher recently.
I hope this is rrat. Every holo should know the last place they shouldn't be lurking is 4chan.

>>14203641
Thanks, that's interesting. I wish people numberfagged stuff other than Holo more for comparison's sake. There used to be a Youtube channel who did that for songs, but he lost his university-provided server a couple of months ago and stopped uploading.

>>14205835
Doesn't stop some holoJPs from going to 5ch and coming across the anti thread.

>>14205657
This is crazy, lol. Hololive is a massive corporation (relatively in the vtuber world before some fag compares them to Amazon or Apple). Yet their talents have the soul of a 2view org when it comes to everybody looking out for each other and pushing that box.

>>14205657
Man, gen 6 must have been coached. Unity doesn't make her good, it makes her smart. It's exactly what keeps everyone feed.

>>14205574
>There is no way the clock will be that dumb to be lurking here...This is the last place any holo should be lurking for peoples opinions

>>14205905
all for one and one for all plus no talent gets left behind policy even if you're a star.

>>14197523
>Kizuna Ai
>pity 3 mil
>ISRAEL
I wonder how it feels to be Kizuna Ai and only get 3 mil after announcing you'll be on indefinite hiatus

>>14197718
Iirc that that wasn't Pekora's only project - although some rrats state she wanted a costume with Cat Ears, which would be kinda dumb and out of character for a Rabbit Princess.

There were rumors floating around that Pekora wanted to do an event with her fans, and considering Cover denied it and Pekora's break down about what's the point in SC's and earnings if she can't give back to her fans - people assumed she wanted to have a fan contest with monetary prizes; which is a big no no for the Japanese government.

>>14200611
It's not sponsored but for some reason, aren't they trying to appeal to Korea too with this game?

>>14205891
JP holo browse 5ch? no wonder some of them getting depression....

>>14200611
>>14206177
>>14200815
Elira just actually plays this game cause cute boys

>>14205910
No need to be coached, hololive's reputation for box-pushing is so strong that anyone getting in is willing to engage in it (and they'll do it naturally without plastering the equivalent of Nijisanjification all over their debut stream presentation screens). The interview process would definitely have tried to select for girls they think would get along with current members of the company.

>>14205905
It's not benevolence, it is a strategy. It keeps people engaged in the brand and that benifits everyone. Maybe the talents get brainwashed into it, I suspect La+ is, but there is no altruism behind it.

>>14206193
Many chuubas will look at 5ch and 2ch even if only out of curiosity, some of them have even been caught shitposting about other chuubas on it...

>>14206010
I don't watch homos but the last 3D debuts were so good I can't help myself

>>14206291
Cover's 3D tech is stepping up big time now, both the girls' and boys' departments. I think they know they fucked with Roberu's 3D debut and naked dogeza and promise to do better.

>>14206291
the only streams I watch from the homos. Astel is chaotic and a good singer, excited for this

>>14206349
yeah, I think that was a turning point

>>14206349
At least that 3D was memorable for how bad it is and how well Roberu took it.
After that it seems like they got their shit together after the public humiliation they got.

>>14206349
hopefully they will upgrade the girls 3D anytime soon

>>14206279
Sio...

>>14202649
Who won?

>>14206456
Yeah, some of the newer ones like Nene and Miko are fantastic but the older ones badly need updates (Marine....)

Ina 10k en is saved. Queen making en branch proud.

>>14206456
Now that the holostars are done and EN1/ID1 are basically only waiting to be released, hopefully they turn their attention to fixing up existing models while working on gen 6's.

>>14206500
knowing cover they would want to make an event out of it, like a 3D re-debut or 2.0 showcase

>>14206609
Rather than making a separate event they'll probably roll an update into a birthday or anniversary, the studio's already overbooked as it is.

Debut buff wore off for HoloX. It's time to build their own actual fanbase.

>>14206864
The decline will fit perfectly into "dead cat drop" anon's argument lol

>>14206864
>Debut buff wore off for HoloX
Has it? Iroha got 30k playing fall guys earlier

>>14197718
I don't want to continue the rrat in numbers thread but i just want to say that Pekora Commission that prison outfit so yes she's the one who pays that shit.

>>14206864
What? Anon, it's been a week. Debut buff lasts at least 2, if not 3, and then you got collab ban lifting buff.

>>14206864
Yeah it wore off and now the 20k averages are here to stay

>>14207140
Council and Edengumi buffs didn't last that long, vtubing is a fading fad everywhere.

>>14199738
If she wanted to, Rin back when her singing Country Roads was noticed by Pewdiepie.
She filtered them with ffxiv instead.

>>14207168
I hope that's not a cope to excuse their poor performances.

>>14197394
Who's streaming at that hour currently anyway?

>>14207168
>vtubing is a fading fad in the west
agreed, holox shouldn't bother aiming for the western market this much

>>14207564
agreed, I think vt board should be closed and merged back to jp

>>14207619
then where will niji and others go

>>14206993
and 13k with RFA

>>14207168
Because council are shit, I mean someone not even got 10k during her very first stream after debuting lmao

Mio-n tsotsumachi today for the gold???

>>14201010
I have autism. Please elaborate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5poWqqkOPK8
Is Koyori doing a Pokemon card gatcha before she gets her monetization? Is that a shill stream? Does it have numbers potential without Fubuki being attached to it?