/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

/#/ is inclining.

/#/ is declining.

HOLO GOLD
>HOLO GOLD
HOLO GOLD
>HOLO GOLD

Any gold contender from the JP side? Or will this be Kronii's gold?

can we get # on Kronii's merch?

Holo gold till friday

>>20198725
>Blue women gold
>Blue women gold

The lack of Boros merch is disappointing

>>20198765
That's been patched already.

>>20198738

marine will stream today

>>20198904
Fuck that reddit retard.

Luca's stream reached 25k, Kronii gold not happening

>>20198895
It's not fair nijisisters... I'm literally drowing in buttons and keychains. Why can't our livers get good merch?

>>20199162
I remember reading some old rrats that Jun is closer to Holos than Nijis.
At least there's footage of him collabing with pekora's roommate in the past.

Seeing as Rin is a guest speaker at his wedding, I don't think Jun blanket hates girl vtubers. He could've found anyone in manjisanji since he's actually interacted with them in apex tournaments.

>>20198895
how do they feel knowing fans will cum all over these

>>20199056
link?

>>20198017
>>20198571
proof?

>>20198904
seriously? now we are gonna be like nipplesanjis with a picture of a soldout merch in Lawson, fuck

>>20198895
I cannot imagine how much this troon is seething over these merchandise pandering to a bunch of otaku and showing tits

At this point, this thread is just one retard replying to themself

>>20197854
>>20197889
Can we please make it a rule that whoever makes the next thread has to link the twitter/pixiv account of the OP's artist so I wouldn't have to waste time in asking for the source?

>>20199431
>>/vt/thread/S19988752#p19997778

>>20200022
Bottom right

>>20200022
It literally says Atdan in the picture. Just go to Gelbooru and type in Atdan.

>vox has THREE ASMR STREAMS this week
>one is mash bros malding asmr
he is becoming the wrong kind of numberfag

>elira sleeping stream
this branch has some really wierd ideas

https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1503249987781619714
HoloKR when?

>>20200246
2 debuff games but 2 strong streams

>>20200246
Doom is only buff to Korone for some reason, others got neutral to debuff.

>>20200243
Luxiem is saving Anycolor from bankruptcy

>>20200243
>elira sleeping stream
And they use variety cope, the state of nijiEN

>>20200246
>Spongbob
>Doom
She really is getting close to Ame

>>20200243
That one anon in the previous thread is not joking, Vox is pandering three times a week.

Why is Luca bleeding views after en girls joined?

>>20200243
NijiEN is just bringing Twitch ideas into YT. Don't know why it doesn't work.

>>20200243
>he actually is doing 3 asmr a week
MY SIDES

>>20200630
fujo unicorns

We can't use Vanced anymore...
Goodbye...streams...

>>20200437
But NijiEN still get no respect from NijiJP. Luxiem is fucking bringing Anycolor more money than HoloFes.

>>20200630
>white day
>bring females
is like if the girls did valentine stream and brought the males

>>20200630
>white day stream, fujos/yumejos treat it as a date with luca
>all of a sudden, his female friends join him and he starts paying attention to them as well
Honestly it's no different from male viewers leaving when a female chuuba invites her male friend on stream

>>20200630
>Holo toutsu
views go up
>niji toutsu
views go down

Man, Holofes is extremely advertised.
https://twitter.com/hololive_event/status/1503249567411810304?s=21

>>20200764
>Luxiem is fucking bringing Anycolor more money than HoloFes.
why are nipplesanjis like this? Miko's merch along brought more money than the whole Luxiem, anonchama haha

https://holoearth.com/

>>20200934
rushia...

>>20200243
is the only way to save NijiEN and since starsEN has the small chance of being a success they need to milk everything fast, if Vox ends up losing popularity he can always just become a normal vtuber with enough money saved up

>>20200962
>Man, Holofes is extremely advertised.
they have posters for every prefecture

>>20200827
case in point, guess when the beggars came on

>>20200737
Still usable for 2 more years. More apps will cary the torch but man it's sad to see vanced goes.

>>20200990
>OS required is Windows 10/11
>I use MacOS
DAMMIT

>>20201159(me)
wrong tag, for >>20200934

>>20200990
What is this cringe?

>>20200934
can they get 1m?

Sana and Anya appear on Japanese subway ads before Luxiem
You love to see it

>>20201292
only the first minutes are gonna be showed, so no. If they showed myth they might break 500k, but 1m is impossible

>>20201221
anon...

>>20201360
proof?

>>20201262
Sana's sweat and tears.

>>20201360
Luxiem will probably appear on CN/TW subways before JP, let's be real here

>>20201163
>Bae x Stars clips always get some good views
>But the live views go down when they appear or people don't show up for collabs
the ''real fans'' btw

>>20201450
who knew beggars were clip watchers that don't watch streams

>>20200246
So Duolingo perms are good now?

>>20201719
I will never believe "duolingo perms" are a thing

>>20201773
Gura did say something about having to ask Duolingo.

>>20200838
>toutsu
kys faggot

>>20200764
>>20200962
In terms of profit margin, yes Luxiem is generating more money. Daily streaming vs a whole convention.

>>20201773
Gura and La+ had to indefinitely postpone their Duolingo streams at the last minute so clearly something is going on with it

>>20201927
Niji is smart for not wasting their money on useless conventions or concerts. They know those events will bring in tiny profits and bankrupt a company.

>>20201927
please stop shitting up the thread

>>20201773
It's founded by a Jew. That's why

>>20201432
>CN
maybe
>TW
Anon, despite what nijifags want you to believe, Holo is still larger than Niji in TW. It's just fujo being cavalier with their money.

>>20200022
open wide anon i have something amazing for you
use saucenao and click on the pixiv id to go straight to the sauce

God damn niji fans are stupid.

>>20201927
profit margin will be the new ratio cope hahaha

>>20201927
new nijicope list entry?

>>20201927
>profit margin
rumao

>>20199839
Pretty sure she was the one who made the okay to get these things made.

>>20202020
What's wrong with my post? Accounting for costs, Luxiem will be more profitable than Holofes. Where's the wrong statement there?

>>20199839
The merch is decided by the talents themselves. Meaning Kronii was the one who asked for this

That's not a cope, that anon is genuinely retarded holy shit

>>20202278
>Luxiem will be more profitable than Holofes
>inb4 margin
YAGOO will surely regret not pandering to zhangs for tens of thousand dollars instead getting millions from live event

>>20202150
>>20202218
>>20202222
I am speaking with children? Stick to your silly numbers. You retards don't know how a business works.

>>20202465
yep, new nijicope list entry it is

>>20202465
Yo tazumi, how's ANYCOLOR warchest?
I heard Luxiem is bringing some dosh, surely that would cover FANTASIA loss.

>>20201773
The Duolingo side probably made it that way since despite how much free advertisement they got it actually didn't turn into any profit at all, as in the users aren't increasing as much as they wanted. On the contrary, the people who streamed it were able to monetize their streams and make a bunch of profit with their app. Just the usual case of content creator making more bucks compared to the service provider.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwtlEwpdpNk
Best time incoming.

>>20202465

>>20202278
>Luxiem will be more profitable than Holofes.

>>20202408
Yet another one with brain problems. Yes, Luxiem will make a few thousands every week. But it costs very little to stream compared to what holofes costs.

Technically he is correct you know

>>20202465
Imagine a company of more than hundreds of employees and livers leaning to Luxiem superchats to keep them afloat and call it ''profitable'' hahaha

>>20202609
kek, surely this one is only pretending, right ?

>>20202583
I can understand having it on a different channel since he explained what's going in but why on a Monday instead of the usual Sunday?
Why, Suika Hiiragi, why?

Go stress test latest Hololive AAA game
https://holoearth.com/

>>20202620
He is technically correct, but this is number thread.
Some measly SCs is nothing compared to the profit of Holofes. Even though those SC cost literally nothing to get.
Big number > Small number. Simple as

>>20202583
Just make a Nijisanji list, no one watches Hololive anymore.

>>20202612
if Cover value SCs as much as you do anon, Rushia will never get fired hahaha

Watching this moment without Ame karaoke just hit different man:
https://youtu.be/RGzQ6zuSJRA?t=12569
She's the enemy of numbers but i'm really glad to see her showing sign of improvement.

>>20202733
are they copying star citizen early access meme?

>>20181570
it's similar to startup work environments
You start with like 5 people, and if the startup ramps up slowly and steadily, you get a steady flow of new people joining in your team, you can get to know each other and have really good bonds.
On the other hand, if your startup gets bought by a big company, you suddenly get 20 new recruits on your team since your new bosses need to deal with a bigger workload, and the comfy environment you had with your startup buddies is all but gone...

>>20202550
Where did I say Luxiem will save Niji from its financial problems? They won't but it does mean that the boys are more profitable than holofes.

>>20202836
Holoearth is free though?

CAN YOU MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE STOP RAIDING NIJIEN? THANK YOU

>>20203104
Fuck off retard

>>20202749
SCs are insignificant compared to a convention that much is obvious. While I commend Cover for going all out on diversification, I think they will be burned if some of their big projects fail. Better to stick with what their good with managing streamers.

Didnt know basic education got so bad in the recent years. Holy shit anon, please be joking.

>>20203104
fuck off

>>20203104
I don't recognize such midgets.

>>20202863
Let me remind you that 8 out of 10 of the top Superchatted channels are all holos, 1 for niji and he's on the very last spot. So stop it with all this SC talk. If you still say that Luxiem is making more recently, then let's see them do that until they get all the top spots. Because last time I checked, those top 8 holos SCs are already in their's and Cover's bank accounts, no mind bending required lol

>>20202749
>He is technically correct
>>20200962
>Luxiem is fucking bringing Anycolor more money than HoloFes
This is what he said before he moved goalposts with technicalities of "profit margin".

>>20199399
Jun doesn't hate vtubers. People just assumed he did because he got clipped trash talking them.
Truth is he trash talks everyone as a joke, especially feminists, vegans, cultists and his own fans.

He even said he liked Marine before (mainly because her roommate's impersonation of Shinji during the NND days was funny though).

holobros...
>>20200246
yagoo pls

>>20203235
Oh hey Lacunny is streaming on Twitch let's see when she announced that stream-
>2 minutes before the stream started
FUCKING BRAT, 4pm on a Monday too

>>20203224
That's a different anon. I'm the one who understands margins unlike you.

>>20202863
>Small minded business instinct
Fits your small dog mentality so well anon.

>>20203224
I could literally beg for money and technically bringing more profit margin than Luxiem

>>20203186
B-but luxiem SC > holofes

>>20203332
>That's a different anon.
Oh i totally believe you.

>>20203305
FFS yamada

>>20203186
Idiot. Holos had two years to accumulate SC. Vox is beating them right now on the monthly count and it doesn't look like it will change.

Are nipplesisters the same retards that buy in with the passive incomes sigma grindset bullshit incels jack off to?

https://youtu.be/HwtlEwpdpNk
Next ranking will go back to previous channel.

>>20203444
>Holos had two years to accumulate SC. Vox is beating them right now on the monthly count and it doesn't look like it will change.
As I said, then let see them do it until they get the top spots, anonchama. you need your reading comprehension reps dumbass.

>>20203343
But you won't because you're not as talented or appealing. If you think you are, then post your channel.

>>20203444
Sure, keep moving the goal post anon.
Are we playing with hypothetical now?
>What if Taiwan Yab never happens
>What if Rushia wasn't an idiot menhera

Why do we always attract the dumbest retards...
What, am I'm going to see 1+2=4 next?

1 + 2 = 4
prove me wrong retards

>>20203588
can't. math is racist or something

is SC the most important metric now? the amount of time loops lately is crazy

>>20203588
1 was culled by 50%, it was originally a 2

>>20203588
it's 3.

>white day
>playing action games

>>20203466
>Suityan every other song
I kneel

>>20203562
How do you guys stand this place anymore? I checked the last thread and people were humoring the larping tripfags.

>>20203514
Are you that anon that was talking about profit margin?
Do you understand how to calculate profit margin?
I could be begging on the street and if i get even 1 dollar then technically my profit margin is way bigger than Luxiem because it didn't cost anything.

>>20203365
Ok schizo. Whatever makes you feel better.

Mori and Suisei: The Video

>>20203721
by making a jester out of some schizos

>>20203735
IF

3x suzy combo to kick off top 10...

>>20203704
fuck pandering, I respect his grind

Not bad, Lui

>>20203824
I could even suck dick, easy 10 dollars

Profit margin, add that to the cope list.

>Sui number 1

SUISEI I FUCKING KNEEL

woah, phony is almost at 10m

how close is it to passing chima's?

>>20203787
Thanks, it does make me feel better to expose disingenuous goal moving niggers like you.

Huh, I expected Q to be first but I was a retard and didn't read the title.
Empress I kneel!

>>20203805
Nah, that is the originals list. Mori doesn't put out that many cover songs.

>>20204011
Mori, you're here, put out another cover with Gura and juice more big numbers for us

>>20200737
>>20201213
What? What happened? Mine still works just fine

How can holos even compete against this much effort?

>>20203853
True. Sonny and Alban should follow what Fulgur did at debut

>>20204171
They have to kill it cuz legal reason, pretty sure it was the Jew. You can still use it for 2 more years ( or until yt change their API) but can't download it anymore.

>>20204234
>N-no, not creative freedom! My biggest weakness!

>>20204234
WHOA THIS IS THE PEAK CREATIVITY ONE CAN DO IN VTUBING, I TOTALLY KNEEL TO RIKU

>>20202278
>What's wrong with my post?
you posted your headcanon without giving any numbers and got deservedly mocked
now shoo

>>20202710
some anons last thread mentioned that he won't be doing original songs weekly anymore which is unfortunate.

>>20204234
and nipplesanjis dare to use ''variety'' cope to us? hahahaha wtf is this???? do this shit on Twitch eeeew

>>20204234
Where the cool game perms?

Hololive 3/5 - 3/11 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwtlEwpdpNk
10. Suisei - Lower (177,144)
9. Suisei and Mori - GETCHA! (188,172)
8. miComet - Animal (213,170)
7. Ayame - Goodbye Sengen (229,632)
6. Hololive EN - Ochame Kinou (241,158)
5. Lui - MIRA (306,747)
4. Matsuri - Yomosugara Kimi Omou (323,193)
3. Mori and Gura - KING (371,651)
2. Laplus - Kamippoi (452,013)
1. Suisei - phony (499,655)
1. Council - Hikaru Nara (565,187)

Nijisanji 3/5 - 3/11 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1ijByjP9Co
10. Ngo - Grizzly Bear ni Osowaretara (126,118)
9. Akina - Ego Rock (138,134)
8. Kuzuha - Vampire (138,695)
7. Amamiya - Kyuukurarin (151,683)
6. Kuzuha - King (192,243)
5. Lain - Venom (215,312)
4. Lauren - Kamippoi (228,514)
3. Luca - Mafia (272,915)
2. Chima - Phony (309,851)
1. Fuwa and Mashiro - Tondemo Wonders (392,692)

>>20204333
no perm for cool games, but hey they got perms for sleeping right ?

>>20204281
Man fuck them jews! My account is actually count on livestream when i use vanced and still got shadowbaned on the YTapp

>>20204368
Council I kneel

>>20204333
Eld*n R*ngs?

>>20204368
>that large powergap between the views

>>20204026
Covers apparently don’t make much money. They can be fun and are basically ads for your channel. Gura has basically no motivation to do covers unless it’s part of a collab.

Speaking of Mori, wtf did she schedule her stream over Kronii's birthday? I know she's busy af, but to say her "tourney" was completely ill-planned is an understatement. The only good thing that came out of it was the impromptu girl talk collab. And I'm not even a Calli anti.

>>20204368
>7. Ayame - Goodbye Sengen (229,632)
It's at 15M now btw

>>20204432
Tbf, Mori scheduled it first and Kronster literally just made the schedule a day before.

>>20204432
Kronii's birthday was basically guerilla. She talked about it in her member's stream; she had been stressing about it all week and announced and scheduled it last moment. It's really not Mori's fault in this case, she announced her jump king thing like a month ago

>>20204333
I remember a week back before Elden Ring release, and nipples are saying that they would get to enjoy their Elden Ring streams while holobros would be stuck on Mincraft streams... What happened now, nipplebros?

>>20204432
>And I'm not even a Calli anti.
You are hours too late to bait antichama. Try catalogue and your fellow seanigs might bite

>>20204428
Gura has a lot of ads for her channel. It is called karaoke clips, and probably works way better than any JP song she can cover.
That said, Gura make it happen. I want that Haiiro to Ao cover you teased you brat.

>>20204444
You know that's not the overall views right? Just views between March 5-11?

>>20204428
she has a list of cover ideas. probably asked management and they came back with the licensing cost and gave up.

>>20204368
Isn't that holo list from last week?

>>20204480
Luca has been playing Elden Ring and is literally the best Elden Ring vtuber right now?

>>20204556
by which metric

>>20204524
I know, just saying since nobody seems to notice it

>>20204598
Anon, we know Ayame is a blight of existence that gets numbers doing nothing.

>>20204389
>>20204554
Ignore the council one

>>20204587
By nijicoep metric ofc!

>>20204620
Fuck off, her last apex stream is kino

>Luca white day
>4 hours in
>$3.1k
What happened?
>inb4 merch

>>20204428
>Gura has basically no motivation to do covers unless it’s part of a collab
stfu clip watcher and grey nigger, you don't know nothing. Gura got one song cover in the works, and even played a rough draft.

>>20204477
Oh... well maybe this is Kronii's anti-numberfagging again

>>20204556
This is the numbers thread. How are his numbers?

Also RIP is creeping up on 30M. Who has the record for an original. That would be a stellar number for a cover.

>>20204656
chink money is for vox

>>20204587
Entertainment and Profit Margin

>>20204659
I wouldn't call that a rough draft. You know the producer will make her re-record everything and it will just sound wrong.
Gura needs to be convinced to do First Take style covers.

>>20199839
literally chose this herself.

>>20204677
It's gonna take some time for Mori to get there

>>20204717
>Profit margin
I kneel

Holo good
Niji bad
Yes?

>>20204717
Now put them into numbers

>>20204659
If Gura produces one solo cover every two years that seems pretty low output given music is a major focus for her. Having an idea is easy. Production is tedious and frustrating and involves cooperation with many other parties. I don’t doubt she’s “working on” a lot of projects. Let’s see how many she actually finished. If I’m not mistaken she has literally 0 covers so far?

>>20204724
Gura is one of those singers that can sound more amazing in karaoke than in JP overproduced official stuff. (Kiara is the exact opposite.)

>>20204717
post your membership to prove you're not a falseflagger

incoming song milestones
https://youtu.be/N029UUlH1Dc 9.9M
https://youtu.be/pFgUluV_00s 9.9M
https://youtu.be/5y3xh8gs24c 29.7M

>>20204717
>Profit Margin
kek is this the new meme

>>20204730
Isn’t that a cover? Though Miku was the original? Who has the original record?

>>20204804
Depends on what you count. Target for Love is the closest but that is sponsored. A bunch of collab ones, with King being her idea and is on her channel.

>>20204754
NO

Holo good
niji good
nijiEN bad

>>20202005
someone add this to the list of cope, thanks.

>>20204878
Nope, PMaru is original. It released with a Miku version (not sure if at the same time or a few months after) because Jpop songs just do that for some reason.

NIJICOEP LIST
*FRAMED IN GOLD*
>>Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP
>>Council didn't do as well Luxiem
>>Holo management were mad about Nijis opening applications again so fast

*CLASSIC*
>quality
>chemistry
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales (without evidence)
>fortune telling
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>foreign audience bad, local Nips good
>YouTube Japan
>flexible creative freedom
>Google trends
>Holobubble is bursting
>Niji is more popular than Holo in Japan
>Niji is mainstream in Japan, which is more important than Holo's international dominance
>Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Cover uses bots
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate

*NUMBERS*
>percentage
>ratio
>volume
>quality numbers
>combined peak CCV
>combined peak CCV from different times
>dead cat bounce
>fake numbers
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers
>VOD views don't count
>views don't matter
>deadsubs doesn't matter, what matters is dedication
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad
>combined SCs
>SCs profit margin

*IT DOESN'T COUNT*
>tournaments don't count
>outfit reveals don't count
>relays don't count
>Koshien is not an event
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Square Enix doesn't count
>Bookwalker doesn't count
>Pokemon doesn't count
>gacha rolling streams doesn't count
>gen 3 shouldn't count so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos

*MERCH AND SPONSORS*
>number of merch determines popularity, not any other metric
>Niji shilling makes games like Genshin successful in Japan
>sponsorships are retarded
>Holo's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>20 Holo merch for fake scarcity
>Bushiroad associating with Holo is toxic for their growth as it was making them lose the Chinese market in the long run

(1/2)
pastebin thinks this list is too malicious to be posted there

>>20204892
Well sure she has a ton of collabs and the sponsored one is an oddball but when it come to projects where she’s the led there’s Reflect and that’s about it. Mori can obviously get tracks out and chickens ability to be productive musically is underrated. It’s why her views are actually pretty high for HoloEN I think she’s actually third in the last 30 which is bizarre given her ccv

*OTHERS*
>stop picking on midgets! (they started the fight themselves)
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>trailers are ads
>playing the victim
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>most vtubers are Niji-like and Niji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Holo invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Niji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>honorary Niji
>Niji have morals
>moral victory
>rightful sovereignty
>five Mystas
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Holocope list
>Holo is only popular because of chink clippers
>Niji has a better following than Holo in the west
>*Selen delusion here*
>there are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Niji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>only the west speaks english
>Twitter interactions
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher
>Nijifans tend to interact with the streams "properly"
>Niji keeps failing but that's okay because they are rich
>having shit mics pre-debut is tradition
>Cover paid off the government to come down hard on their rivals
>Management forced Mori to unfollow Nijis
>at least Vox whores himself to his fans
>indies will more likely go to NijiEN first, stay indie second and then choose HoloEN as their last resort
>if they make fun of you, you win
>Luxiem/Noctyx outearned HoloJP's top earners as a group
>NijiEN drama is overshadowing a Hololive event here for once hence they are inclining
>Niji is smart for not wasting their money on useless conventions or concerts, they know those events will bring in tiny profits and bankrupt a company
>Luxiem is more profitable than Holofes

*AND YOUR NEXT LINE WILL BE*
>obsessed
>watch streams
>your favorite corp is so boring you would rather use your time to type this out instead (OP took like 5 minutes to write all of this down FYI)
>rent free
>seething
>projecting
>deflecting
>this is sad/pathetic
>cry
>mindbroken
>fragile
>free publicity
>nip anti .note Deepl
>*links to # indicating it's some form of Holocope*
>*calling out some form of mental illness and seeking medical help*

(2/2)

>>20204860
The dude uptop used it to defend that Luxiem is more profitable than HoloFes.
>Why do a convention with all the works bts, when you can just stream and be more profitable, right?
That's his whole argument

>>20204980
>pastebin thinks this list is too malicious to be posted there
i can't believe pastebin is a nijinigger

>>20204980
>pastebin thinks this list is too malicious to be posted there

>>20204980
>*NUMBERS* SCs profit margin
I KNEEL

>>20205016
Profit margin is top tier cope for Niji though. High return stuff percentage-wise probably works because Nijisanji has a lot of kidneys.
Sadly not everyone is Vox.

>>20204980
Use rentry and stop flooding the thread, faggot

Gotta be falseflagger right?
I refuse to believe Nijifags to be that dumb to believe in "profit margin"

>>20205126
But the fags spamming their SC profit margins and shitposting larping as NijiEN members are fine right?

>>20204878
Vocaloid producers usually tend to release the vocaloid version of a commissioned original song.
For example, Identity (commissioned from Kanaria by the Project Sekai people for the Nissin noodles collaboration) has a vocaloid version and then the Project Sekai version with Miku and Kanade, one of the characters
Another example would be Surii who usually releases the vocaloid version of his original songs then uploads his self covers nearly a week later

merch anon really broke nijikeks with that merch data lmaoo

>>20205159
B-but what about those dudes!?
I don't give a shit, the namefags don't flood the thread

>>20204587
Skill and reputation, you'll see Luca's Elden Ring runs being promoted on every vtuber Elden Ring clip

>>20205247
So it's not a quantifiable metric then.
>reputation
What the fuck is wrong with you nijifags

>>20205305
Man I don't want another entry in the nijicoep list from an obvious falseflagger. It gets longer and longer.

>>20202807
her schedule has been nice for 2 weeks now, her feeling better might make her push for better numbers too or at least better numbers be as a side effect of her loving what she does.

>>20205108
>Profit margin is top tier cope for Niji though. High return stuff percentage-wise probably works because Nijisanji has a lot of kidneys.
Sadly not everyone is Vox.
The cope might work is they dominate the SC market, but sadly no. Yeah Vox might be on top, how about within the top 10? top 20? We're not talking about individual livers when talking about ''profit''

>>20205305
Luca is literally the only vtuber so far to do a level 1 Wretch Tree Sentinel clear

>>20204806
Which is why I don't understand the constant whining about it. Same people wishing for Gura to make covers will bitch about inevitable "autotuning" and end up shitting on it anyway.

>>20205424
Here, use these numbers yeah?

>20205424
Soulslike chads, can you confirm this?
Still not numbers btw

>>20205424
Skill is not an easily quantifiable metric because we can't easily compare him to, say, Botan for example, without taking into account prior experience, etc

Good for him tho

>>20205452
Gura and the other girls just need to find good mixers, really
Chiaki Natsume's mixing like the stuff he did for Mori's End of a Life is pretty good

Reminds me of Selen's Apex skills to be honest
What happened to that anyway, did she win a tournament or two?

>>20205588
I thought k's coro is a chumbud? Someone should get him in touch. hell I would take SoundWeebJay because I still like Risu's King.

>>20205452
Wish she would utilize Mori's contacts. I'm not really a fan of her genre, but her music doesn't sound over-processed (End of a Life in particular).

How's NijiEN with the YT algorithm? Anything worth talking about?

>>20204659
>and even played a rough draft
In which member stream?

>>20205935
How does one test this? I can try opening an incognito window, watch a clip and see my recommended I guess?

>>20205976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iywPbViIFaM
Comments have timestamps.

>>20206019
thx anon

>>20206046
Anything for goober

Thread's slow so I'll post some numbers.

Inclining holo covers list. Previous one here : >>19705956
If a song gets more NEW viewers this week than the last one, it's considered to be inclining.
New songs on their first week, as well as songs with view variance of under 5000 are ignored.
[*n] indicates an inclining streak of 'n' straight weeks (n > 1 obviously).
Here's the list for this week -

> Adrenaline - SubaruxUi (+6,018)

Somewhat of a normal week (remember that inclines are outliers, songs losing NEW viewers every week is perfectly normal) but it may also be due to the 5k cutoff, since there are some songs that have 3k+ in the list below.
I'll check for one more week and adjust the cutoff to 3k if necessary.
Also, seems that the original songs list might be becoming monthly, and if that's the case I might not cover it. We'll see how it goes.

Honorable mentions -

> Lion - ShishiLamy (+3,519)
> Alien - Sora (+1,972)
> Ranbu no Melody - Suisei (+1,714)
> Shoujo Rei - Suisei (+2,830)
> Kamippoi - Laplus (+3,906)

>>20205935
Nothing, their Twitter algo is working though. I'm not following any of them and they still appears to to my 'you might like'

>>20206217
Huh, anything new on Ui side? Might just be Subaru's return for that one.

>>20206217
Can you also do one "inclining covers" list for Niji or would you prefer to leave that to another anon?

>>20206250
The song is on Ui's channel so yeah, Subatomo are definitely strong

>>20205935
I've been getting a lot of clips of NijiEN when watching holos

Looks like vrabi had a hiccup last hour:
https://vrabi.net/progress/2022-03-14/16

opens PB, notices that many holos are -1 in SC chart.. then saw this
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCx1nAvtVDIsaGmCMSe8ofsQ/videos

tf? 1.8m USD from a single stream?

>>20206247
If only they put as much effort on YT as they do on Twitter.

>>20206342
Uh oh, are we seeing Hololive being beaten in their algo game? Will we see viral Niji clips in the future? Will clippers change to Nijisanji?

>>20206375
You're a day late anon.

>>20206375
you need to lurk more, anon. This is why nijis only got zhang fujos, Jun got all the JP fujos.

>>20206322
do they have a regular video series going that tracks the data?
I'm just a holofag doing this in my spare time, so I'd prefer to let an actual nijifan do it for the Niji side if possible, but if they have a regular series going, I can track it so that we can compare numbers.

>>20206424
Yes, Hololive reclining, it is over.

>>20206450
/#/ must've lost their minds last night

e-celeb talk again

>>20206424
anon, my oshi's clippers can get 300k-100k within 24hrs easily. That's more than the majority of nijiENs VOD views kek

>>20206482
>>20206538
Please no, not again

>>20206470
Found one channel who's been doing weekly cover rankings for Niji
Here's their latest video
https://youtu.be/v1ijByjP9Co

>>20206424
holo clippers getting offers from Nijisanji does help them alot, also doubledipping clippers would just be a win for NijiEN.

Holo still mogs them by a country mile in views and sheer amount of clippers though.

>>20205588
hire me

>>20206796
Clippers can only do so much. You got a ton of clippers, but the livers themselves aren't doing anything click-worthy. I saw Gura's 3D fuck you clip got like 500k within a day. Even her JP and CN clippers are gaining a ton of views

>>20203466
List of every member that appears more than twice (not counting both versions of Ochame Kinou, unranked songs, and This week in history) and their respective ranks:

Suisei: 12 songs (#43; #36; #35; #31; #23; #21; #20; #15; #10; #9; #8; #1)
Calli: 4 songs (#25; #19; #9; #3)
Okayu: 4 songs (#37; #33; #27; #22)
Aqua: 4 songs (#44; #40; #32; #28)
Towa: 3 songs (#50; #24; #15)
Kanata: 3 songs (#40; #32; #16)
Polka: 3 songs (#41; #29; #26)
Mio: 3 songs (#40; #33; #30)
Fubuki: 3 songs (#40; #38; #33

>>20206873
Gura is really good at clippable moments. A bit too good desu.

>>20207072
It has begun. If they don't address the problems yet, the more it'll spiral out of control.

>>20206726
oh neat!
I should have some time today, so I'll check it out.

>>20207072
Hololive is right all along...

https://youtu.be/NKYeEn60E2k
damn this clip went crazy

>>20206322
>>20206726
oof, looks like I won't be able to do one for Nijisanji anon.
Their ranking videos don't seem have the number of new views that the song got last week (pic related).
The reason I even started this list for holo songs was the addition of this datapoint on the holo videos.
Doing the list for Niji without that data present in the video itself is an insane amount of work unfortunately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKQPqYMNFRo

Gold

I expected better from Luca to make content for a white day stream, but it's just a glorified SC reading. What's worse is that Mysta and Vox is also doing a glorified SC reading. Only Ike is true to himself, and does a zatsu. (also an SC reading)

>>20207329
he did some vr fanservice earlier dumbass
unfortunately it was ruined when the females joined in and he lost about 3k viewers

>>20207329
i mean, doin SC readings is being true to themselves, that's the nijien identity

>>20207317
A shame but thank you anyway, anon

>>20206451
are jun fans really "fujos" he just seems like the most popular and culturally relevant game streamer in Japan

When will vtuber get these kind of numbers?

>>20207443
/vt/ just likes to use the word "fujo" as an umbrella term for all female fans

>>20207470
When a member finally commits sudoku. Rushia almost did it but get fired before she got a chance.

>>20207390
np mate
if you're tracking that video series, you can post here if they ever add this metric, I usually lurk this thread during JP hours.
Would definitely be interesting to see the trends of incline for Niji.

>>20207470
Never.

Am I wrong to think that the (below) average female vtuber fan is typically more deranged than the male counterpart? At least that what I get from this thread

>>20207470
The highest JP video is below 800M.
Japan is mogged by Korea.

Marine stream. Gold for today?
https://youtu.be/kORHSmXcYNc

>>20207733
30k floor

>>20207576
I believe that both genders are the same thirsty incels, with more men in that category. The real difference is that females have no breaks while men face multiple levels of tardwrangling. Men who do that are accepted to be too far gone while women who do are just fangirls

>>20207733
50K
>50K
50K
>50K

I thought this month is a debuff month for Hololive due to Holofes prep? this feels like every other month besides niji baseball season.

Is it just me or is there a rise of comfy zatsu/asmr stream titles lately from NijiID/KR? It's not just that, I've seen a lot of times where both branches are doing the same stuff that NijiEN is doing. Do they want the same viewers from EN's basket knowing it's kinda futile?

>>20207850
>Kuzuha debuffing himself like Pekora
>nipples torpedoing sponsored collabs
>COVID hitting Mito and others
>lack of steady pace of 3D debuts
>Luxiem still developing China gachis
JP got hit hard and Luxiem is still mobilizing the Yume/Fujo armies

>>20208106
Nobody watches them, nigger-kun.

>>20208180
>Not skimming Nijidex

>>20208165
okay, that's fair. no one could've predicted those events from niji.

>>20207576
>average female vtuber fan is typically more deranged than the male counterpart
Anon, the average female anything fan is more deranged.
>Lookup: Beatlemania.
>See also: Elvis Presley
You will NEVER see a behaviour like that from male fans

>>20207576
You have to be a massive schizo failure to engage in a fundamentally male activity such as watching vtubers.

>>20208325
Probably not. Just think of it as an female underage kpop stan but for anime men.

>>20208325
>fundamentally male activity
What now? So you saying all of Vox content is fundamentally targeted to male? Shit opinion

>>20199414
Working as intended

>>20207312
La+ really likes ass...

>>20202612
I'll explain this in a very reasonable way.
SCs can't get the volume of money a big event can get plus there are more important things like selling your brand to sponsors and other businesses plus bot Cover and Anycolorare technology company so they get many of their investments come from that sector. Some asian fujos just don't have pockets as deep as Lawsons or Konami.

>>20207733
>11pm
So late

>>20208325
Ah yes watching girls playing make believe is a fundamentally male activity. Almost forgot we're living in the year of our Lord 2022 for Christ's sake

>>20207733
sorry Kroniibros, no gold for you

>>20209075
current gold is kronii's bday at 25k. i can see it getting over 25k in time

>>20209114
>it's le current year you guys!

>>20207377
SC reading while SC is turned on is the real nijiEN way hahaha

https://twitter.com/hashtag/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AD%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9
HoloEarth server stress test. not really sure what Cover wants to do with this.

>>20209180
>no Hornyronii posting
Its the thread that will lose

man, tonight is stacked.

>>20209224
Yes anon I hate le current year, thanks for pointing it out for our resident masculine autists

https://t.bilibili.com/637355996988047364?tab=2

Bilibili reducing payment for video uploaders, will probably go for higher cuts for donations soon....

>>20209456
hey, you'll get Marine ones in exchange.

>>20209435
The end game should be like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTiBp-ORNEo

>>20202465
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Why is Polka so fat?

>>20209582
Numbers?

>>20209536
fuck me, I swear they're gonna add Gura or some other popular holos in fortnite as skin one of these days

>>20207733
>>20209180
Pekora gold, maybe?

the overlaps

>>20209435
Is doing a stress test this early on in development normal?

>>20208891
Seems like Cover is doing a good job then with better rigging of their talents straight from debut. Anycolor isn't good at presenting themselves with individual talents, but their company is strong at managing events.

>>20202465
holy kek

>>20209649
so... is Vshojo losing to koreans?

Is this dude delusional or is Phase actually inclining?

>>20209718
They seem to only be testing the lobby, decent foresight to realize that even the lobby part will need to be optimized since it will probably have a heavy load on launch (depending on the monetization model).

>>20209815
good

>>20209897
Inclining
>to the top
First stop having an anemic JP branch and have one liver average more than Reimu. NijiEN females aren't a real threat until their top beats HoloEN's bottom. PC isn't a threat until their top beats NijiEN's bottom.

>>20209815
the only thing they had going for them recently was ironmouse's subathon. shes only had one stream since ending it which peaked at 12k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXD4qJHN4ac
>5 days
>barely 300k
Total flop. As expected of her.

So, who's actually winning in the revenue department for EN. From what I understand, Both Myth and Council + IRyS earns more than $100k on just birthday alone, not including half year merch, anniversaries etc. But there's people trying to push that Luxiem earns more than HoloEN with just SCs and a few debut celebration goods and VPs. I don't get it.

>https://youtu.be/om7Ym6AI5gs
…..

>>20210077
If there is no penalty for being 'on air' all the time then why even turn off a stream? I don't see one. If subathons are so profitable then why not always be doing one?

Another holo x famima run
https://twitter.com/famima_now/status/1503279768820715521

>>20210083
People aren't very honest and don't see what's going on plus we lost the ability to look at merch numbers so we never got a complete EN run outside of Ame's dollar store merch. I saw ignore people who try to compare branch to branch as that is pointless penis waving. Good SCs are always good but don't engage with people with agendas since engagement is what they need.

>>20209897
They might be inclining, I have no numbers to confirm or deny it but, claiming they will be the top when no member of your company has over 35k subs is an optimistic claim.

>>20210083
I mean is this even a question??? holos, just from myth merch alone probably destroyed their counterparts.

>>20210132
eventually, it'll lose any buff. the current longest/ongoing subathon is some 3view https://www.twitch.tv/emilycc..
yeah you could argue if they had a large audience the buff would last longer but i would eventually lose its luster.
also being live 24/7 isn't exactly the most healthy thing to do

>>20210083
A lot of people aren't aware of how much money Sponsorships and Merch bring in.
Understandably, the ol' merch thing was called a cope when it was used by Nijifans back in the day due to not having a lotta numbers to back it up, but we were able to catch a glimpse at how much Merch earns for Holomem.
Then there are those who don't care about facts and just want to shit on HoloEN regardless, shitposters, and whatnot, and things end up a mess. Like, consider: the Blue Archive sponsorship for HoloEN likely cost way, way, WAY more than the one for NijiEN due to MUCH larger viewership (VOD views are the main metric for YT sponsorships, different than Twitch) and they got GURA to do a goddamn Cover song for them. Those things don't have to eat a 30% cut from YT either.

>>20210204
Bae's merch got 200k last time I checked

>>20210116
Someone's roommate streaming APEX isn't /#/

>>20210083
up until recently we weren't able to get merch figures so it was pure speculation

>>20210171
>art by Namori
>Nene's friend she traced from
Anyone else's wheels really really spinning?

>>20209435
ok, i was curious in whatever it was, but fuck having to sign up/in only having the options of twitter or apple id.

>>20210171
Seems like a couples event? They got MiComet, KanaTowa and NoeFure

>>20210116
Re:Act graduates unite

Oh jesus, so Playboard finally found it huh...
If you want a humbling reminder of how relatively small-time vtubers are here's jun making more money in 10 minutes than the whole of Coco's graduation

King is streaming valo again theres your niji gold contender kek

>>20210400
But Jun didn't beat her CCV (right?)

>>20210432
Not unless you add together the Youtube and Twitch streams (which would be retarded)

>>20210400
It's not like you can do marriage over and over again
Unless you are divorced

>>20210484
give him two years, he'll be a widower by then.

Iofi orisong! Will mog risu numbers!!
God tier artwork!

https://youtu.be/Rd6kufQ7ONc

>>20210484
Well it's not like Coco can graduate again either, anyway this is fine because now I can laugh at junfags for being even bigger simps than any vtuber fan

>>20210475
YT+ Twitch doesnt count since twitch would still count your view if you watch the wedding on YouTube and put it on another tab.

>>20210369
Who's the other one?

>>20210661
Qu I believe

>>20210673
Huh? When did she graduate?

La+ makes me sad sometimes. She streams valorant on twitch. Why? If she wants to grow her fanbase, then do a KR Duolingo, then stream on twitch. Complete the KR lingo course with 3-4 streams and possess a basic understand of KR, then she could extract a lil bit of those KR fans to watch her. Not only Gura is well liked by KR, even La+. Heck, Kronii earned $4k from KRW.

>>20210532
whoa wait what the fuck

>>20210713
https://twitter.com/Qu_Qualia/status/1497135419716431873
Last month

>>20210740
but why does she need to care about gook?

>>20210303
That will have been in the pipeline for a long time - just part of why it was so easy to smooth over.

>>20210713
Technically she doesn't until the 31st but she may as well have already done so months ago

>>20210532
What's with ID and their Sawanoesque naming sense?

Jun's wife ...PekoJun forever!!!

>>20210740
Because she would be playing valorant on her roommates account if she wasn’t doing it on twitch. Also the JP Holos have no reason to care about the KR audience in particular.

>>20210759
Why are you surprised? its normal for hololive member to have their own orisong, unlike nijisanji who seems more focused in group song

>>20210829
30% of that goes to Susan...

>>20210303
Anon Namori retweeted the art nene traced and commented on it, this is literally the japanese equivalent of white twitter users getting offended at speedy gonzales on behalf of spics who loved him.

>>20210829
jesas

almost 40k

>>20210765
>>20210803
Jesas Re:Act... so qu will be traded to merise then?

>>20210773
Obviously. I'm just saying she probably didn't want twitter warriors taking a shit where she eats, and what she eats is a nice commission on some fan goods for familymart.

>>20210829
>Jun's wife
anon the rrat is more then dead. get something else to be schizo about rrat peddler. May I suggest the Jun rrat that he beats women?

>>20210740
>KR Duolingo
Why? Chloe gets a decent amount of KR superchats and has never pandered to them, doesn't even read their names if they're in hangul. There is no point to actively seeking that audience unless you're struggling like Baelz frankly was

>>20210975
It's not surprise that male streamer beats female.

>>20210961
twice scientist cover song

Holy shit Subaru playing Virtual On

>>20211036
>>20210961
Are those isegye?

>Junkid approved eceleb hours
Alright here we go then.
xQc with 57k on the debuff shooter game. Also about to hit 12 hours streamed.

mknk doing valentine stream on white day
10k waiting room

>>20211101
yes

>>20211125
Now the question is the camera buff or debuff?

no white day stream for nippleboy?

>>20211125
I still think it’s ballsy that she doubled down after all that but if it works for her, good for her.

>>20211168
neutral probably. aren't most fandeads already follow her before the yab?

>>20198895
Her artist is a genius. This little circular shadow here allude to areolas without being explicit, it is just a hint that your lizard brain picks up when skimming it.
Wadarco?

>Project cost us $10,200 for a 60-second space to play 3-4 times per hour across the day
from Kronii's time square ad.. what do you guys think? should've just SC'd or nah?

>>20211106
Xqc stream title never failed to made me laugh. It’s also in all caps like his tweet

>>20210083
idk why anons here take that 100k at face value. That shit is just the revenue, not profits. We don't know the production cost of their merch, and looking at how many people bought them I think nijien is at least on par with holoen. When was the last time holoen got ads anyways?

>>20211125
Now she can have all the timeslot in the world without any interuption

>>20211224
She never did a facecam stream after joining Hololive, not sure if she'll show her face today though

>>20210964
Hololive Gamers 2

>>20211224
Yeah, but I doubt majority of them chase the rabbit down with the proverbial hole.

>>20209632
She’s doing Amazon product review. I dunno the number range for this kind of stream, maybe 25k?

>>20211224
Yeah, you had to follow her roommate to get the “true” fandead experience.

>>20211293
>inb4 the camera is focused on her cat

>>20211284
Numbers or gtfo

>>20211267

>>20211267
What now?
... I think I'm blind.

>>20211267
Anon that's vitiligo

>>20211219
A calico cat can't change it's patterns.

>>20211125
27k and climbing

>>20211275
>should've just SC'd
SC are dime a dozen. Bragging rights for a (ahem) *Time*'s Square project is eternal

>>20211125
70% eop 30% jop chat lmao

>>20211284
yeah, and your branch only saving grace are your men zhang SCs. If you really think that merch is not as profitable as SC then gtfo, we don't need a dumbass around here.

>>20211416
>>20211397
See >>20211394

>>20211441
most important is they got a reaction from Kornii, yeah she would've read your SC, but that reaction from the project is much better.

>>20209179
>>20209180
lol Kronii had a minuscule chance at gold.

Just looking at this month so far and last month, there was only one <25k gold.
>>/vt/thread/S20146718#p20149666
>>/vt/thread/S19409731#p19410055

Mikeneko just mogged Kronii but she's using cam so it doesn't count

>>20211478
Guess its a matter of time until they move on, just like they did with kson