/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *

>32,428: Aqua (Hololive)
>28,840: Korone (Hololive)
>28,763: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>25,310: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>23,540: Vox (Nijisanji)
>23,139: Gura (Hololive)
>20,757: Koyori (Hololive)
>20,603: Kanata (Hololive)
>17,011: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>16,612: Haneru (774 Inc.)
>15,955: Ange (Nijisanji)
>15,257: Mio (Hololive)
>15,079: Lize (Nijisanji)
>14,536: Nene (Hololive)
>13,950: Laplus (Hololive)
>13,847: Towa (Hololive)
>12,577: Hal (Neo Porte)
>11,716: Elira (Nijisanji)
>11,109: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,663: Shu (Nijisanji)
>10,310: Lamy (Hololive)

>>24406558
>MAY 2022 GOLD
1) Kanata (Hololive) - 60,210 - New outfit reveal
2) Miko (Hololive) - 27,893 - Power Pro 2022
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 75,927 - Nijiquiz
4) Mio (Hololive) - 42,756 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
5) Mio (Hololive) - 43,953 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
6) Kaida (Nijisanji) - 70,355 - 3D debut
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 35,238 - Among Us collab
8) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 95,165 - FuwaGusa 3D live
9) Miko (Hololive) - 63,587 - WWE 2K22
10) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 28,244 - APEX
11) Kanata (Hololive) - 43,953 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Miko (Hololive) - 37,659 - Switch Sports w/Flare
13) Miko (Hololive) - 76,609 - WWE 2K22
14) Marine (Hololive) - 45,005 - Zatsudan
15) Sora (Hololive) - 58,576 - 3D birthday live
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 32,428 - Return karaoke

>PER COMPANY
12x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Miko
2x: Kanata, Mio
1x: Aqua, Fuwa, Kaida, Kuzuha, Marine, Nijisanji, Pekora, Sora

I like this one, I want the op image to fucking rape me

regardless of how fuckign rushed this collab was.
there are 27k watching hololive with one collab and 2 individual streams.

>>24406727
another month, another month of Selen failing to break past Sana

>>24406745
Yeah, it's alright. With the caveat that Fauna and Selen haven't reached anywhere near their peaks yet.

>>24406948 (me)
Dammit, forgot image

ENfags seething and coping. You love to see it.

>>24406948
There's 10 people and only Selen has a POV?

>>24406899
When is the Obsidya anniversary? That's going to be her month

And the stream die again

Ina with the Internet issues just to funnel into Mumei and let her get into the tally, sasuga tako

>ina's stream died
rip
>you can hear robo Ina on Mumei's stream
damn this ISP is sabotaging her numbers, is there any EN operating at peak possible numbers efficiency?

it's the same guy who was shitting jps on hlgg lmao

Ina's stream shitting the bed as expected put Mumei over 10k also. Illegal funneling?

>>24407144
Canadian ISPs are absolutely horrid.
t.leaf

>>24407144
>is there any EN operating at peak possible numbers efficiency?
none tonight

>>24407201
is it as bad as shitty hotel wi-fi though?

>illegal view funnel
Also lol at this example for why "how many streams you got in the tally" is fucking stupid as a metric of success. This stream was never getting in there without the Ina funnel, and now it peaked over it.

5k get
5k get
Reclining my ass
I bet holojp wont get number this high if they were culled

Ina's stream died, everyone went to see Mumei's pov

>>24407201
curious, what's so bad about it ?
t.indog

>>24407260
Ina fell so that Mumei could get into the tally.

>Ina letting her stream die to let Mumei surpass Mika
SHE'S HERE

>>24407282
>January already forgotten

>>24407416
En got double culled tho, not a comparison.

>>24407365
>Mumei 11,406
Never celebrate early mika

Before Ina DC’d, there was a total of 29k watching the ENs. Pretty solid actually for how rushed the collab was and really just on the spot.

>>24407256
>>24407320
Virtual monopolies, shitty pricing and whatnot. Population density is part of the issue. Canada is fucking HUGE but the relative population density outside of big cities is shit, which results in only 2-3 ISPs for many places, all of them shitty.

ILLEGAL RAIDING

First actual holo raid

Oh shit they actually used the raid feature.

INA RAID MUMEI!
they hate each other!

Wait what I was in the other thread, why are you idiots in the later one?

First EN raid...

INA RAIDED MUMEI
LOOK AT THE VIEWERS CLIMB

CANADA HATE

Live redirect successful

>>24407416
I'm still mad about Luna's 3D live with 13k. I will never forgive Susan

ILLEGAL FUNNELING

RAID NUMBERS

Wtf is happening? This ina said raided?

ILLEGAL RAID!

Oooh a 1v1 overwatch stream mashup?
This would be a clear indication on which EN group really has the upper hand.

>>24407704
EXTREMELY ILLEGAL FUNNELING

AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>24407666
Alright who's next?

>>24407709
Her internet is too shit to stream right now, fucking Leaf ISP.
So she sent her Takos over to Mumei.

>>24407704
Holo Bots

+5k viewers after the raid

half the viewers were watching both streams? or did they left because no Ina stream

So, what now? How do we deal with raids?

The raid still looks pretty buggy or maybe the cull is fucky with EN verification since Mumei got 4k off that, but I feel like even a DC’d Ina had more than that

>>24407678
>the first EN raid NijiEN
a bit surprising

>>24407725
Not really, it's 4 people vs 10, but also way outside of Niji EN's main timezone. To be completely fair you'd need to have it on Vox and Guras channels with the same number of people at like.....3 PM EST.

Does the raid work if you have Autoplay turned off?

>>24407829
They left while they were getting verified by YT.

>>24407725
Not even lol, NijiEN has only 2 members (debuff) versus 4 HoloEN members (buff). NijiEN is playing OW 2(buff) vs HoloEN OW1(debuff).

>>24407833
Same as twitch's. We indicate that there's a raid in the tally

>>24407850
But both have to be active?

>>24407829
>>24407850
Probably still processing and will stay like that forever

>>24407833
The same way we deal with Twitch raids, just fucking cope, qualify specifics and raid context, or give up.

>>24407829
Either: The views still have to verify, they didn't get redirected, they stopped watching, or YT actively counts you watching both streams and only 6k weren't watching both.

NATURAL INCLINE LET'S GOOOOOO

it looks like this on Ina's stream. click manually?

>>24407704
IT'S RAIDS, NOT ILLEGAL FUNNELING

And people thought that NijiEN would be the first corpo using a raid lel

Disqualified from the tally?

Fauna 6k get. Thanks holobox.

>Subscribers mode
Mumei might get a boost on subscribers too

>>24407833
Tally the same way Twitch-tally anon does his

>>24407829
You don't get counted if you're a multiwatcher so either they left or they're a victim of late verification (especially if they left themselves without waiting for the raid to finish)

>>24407829
A mix of both probably. Some people likely left when Ina's stream went down.

>>24407998
At this point we should disqualify all Hololive streams

>>24407910
It doesn't autoplay, but you can still see the link glaringly overtly so it's not a big deal.

>>24407996
if autoplay is on, then it will automatically redirect you to the new stream, if not, then I guess you see that pinned comment

what the fuck is going on with mumeis stream, i had her on in background she was steady 8k and now shes forming fucking plateaus on holostats.... is someone botting holoEN girls to fuck with them now

HoloEN disqualified from the tally from now on. NijiEN has won the EN battle.

>>24407833
Raids are too uncommon to really worry about now but when we start seeing Aki getting raided by Pekora or Sana raided by Gura and it starts to effect the tally we can start indicating *Raid Peak*.

>>24408075
Yes Anon, actual verifiable bots with 8 arms and cute flaps

I wonder how raids affect post stream VOD views

>>24408005
This is a good number of ASMR since most ENvtubers don't get that high in CCV (no, Vox's AMSR is not true ASMR)

>>24408005
Anon, it has nothing to do with the box. She usually gets more when she does it at fucking 6pm with a singular overlap

>>24408121
good! now you no longer need to post it

>>24408075
anon just read the thread

>>24407850
Mumei was at 8.5k before Ina started to bug out.
Mumei ended up getting +6k. Some part of the viewers probably didn't bother redirecting or are in delayed verification.

WHAHAHAHA MUMEI STREAM DOESN'T COUNT HOLOFAGGOT

Hololive can use natural funnel now?

>>24408121
no more en tally then? thank you

>>24407829
That's why youtube blocking the one who direct the stream to see the number of viewer he/she directed. Only a part of them will get verify immediately, meanwhile others stuck in a verification loop.

>>24407910
I'm not sure, i was messing around with my tabs and I *seemed* to have ended up with two Mumei streams, so I think I did get transferred over, and I don't have autoplay on.

I just looked, Ina had over 6k people when she raided Mumei and 4k ended up passing through. Mumei’s viewership has stayed stable at 14.5-7k after the raid too, so.. It’d be actually hilarious if this is a surefire way to see culling in effect somehow. I know obviously not everyone is gonna turn over to Mumei’s stream but the raid literally directs the stream to her and Ina is IN the stream. So idk what’s happening with that

>>24408209
It get funnier every repost

Fauna 6k+ with big overlap and ASMR you can alt tab out, she's so consistent

>>24407910
It displays the link but doesn't automatically dump you in if you have autoplay off.

>>24408180
sorry half the time i jump to the bottom because people fucking treat the thread as a giant tribal war so i just post a question and hope im spoonfed instead of sifting the crap

>>24408149
she did sound like a robot for a while there

has the machine uprising finally come for us? did it start in canada?

Moons pre-raid peak. The first spike is from Ina just disconnecting normally and people hopping over. So tell me exactly, why would we disqualify HoloEN shifting their mutual viewers in the exact same POV collab because the raid feature was used, but it would have been okay had Ina just said "go there" and ended the stream? Autistic rules ITT.

>>24408121
Yeah, time to discontinue EN medal

>>24408141
tourist here, may I ask what stream did Gura raid Sana?

>>24408012
I doubt there are many people here not subbed to Mumei, even if they don't necessarily watch her much.

So... Mumei won't count, right? Ina is the only 10k from Holo today

>Holo EN streams don't count because raids
>Niji EN streams don't count because bots
Well no more EN tally I guess what a shame

>>24408262
Consistently shit in terms of numbers yes.

>>24408370
THIS
however im amazed gura didnt even know that was an option

>>24408250
Some people have it in the background as noise.
There's also a sizeable amount of people that don't bother to have autoplay on and leave a stream on while they do stuff around the house (Guilty of this sometimes).
All in all, there's enough reasons that you won't see 100% transfer over.

>>24408354
I'm not going to insult you, but you should work on your reading comprehension.
Those were hypothetical situations, not things that actually happened.

So I never did get an answer about what happened to that yukkuri trademark dispute thing

>>24408168
Don't hate it. Embrace the box anon. Niji en trying to create their own box but failed miserably. Mika going back to be 1k shitter after this.

>>24408156
Shouldn't be any different than 6k randos migrating to your stream for non-raid reasons. If they fuck off before 30 seconds I think they wouldn't get counted.

>>24407833
We switch over to the mean viewers since tallying the peak no longer makes any sense.

How does Ina have so many connection problems when Kronii and half of NijiEN don't have these issues?

>>24408362
See >>24408318
Autistic to worry about this particular instance anyway since its not "streamer sends people along to other stream and keeps the viewer chain going" as much as it is "you literally cannot watch me on this channel, watch me on this other one".

>>24408354
She didn’t. Anon just posed the hypothetical since tallies have always been sort of personal between the members and their streams. Raids just throw numbers off drastically since if done properly, you’d basically never see a stream below X amount due to the redirecting

>>24408453
Do you think they live next to each other or something?

>>24408453
probably physical infrastructure of where Ina lives

>>24408453
Ina's house is really old so the cables are all fucked up

>>24408416
oh shit, my bad. I was multitasking. thanks for giving the benefit of the doubt. you and me both lucked out on that kek

>>24408453
Ina must just live in a shit neighbourhood with a bad wiring.

>>24408453
you know canada is a big place right?

>>24408388
It's a Fauna ASMR, come back in a month to see the VOD have more than twice the views of any other regular EN stream

>>24408362
Mumei cleared 10k before the raid, just from Ina's stream going down. Not that you're being serious, but still.

>>24408453
she "upgraded" to a business line. She needs to just go back to whatever she had before but she got a 2 yr contract on the business line.

>>24408362
You’re a retard. If you’re that autistic about the raid you can literally use her tally prior to the raid which was still 11.4k or something.

So uhhh where is this /hlg/ schizo came from?

15k i guess...

illegal 15k

15k mumei get. Youtube verify complete

>>24408582
>>24408589
>>24408600
AIIEEE STOP THE COUNT
THIS IS ILLEGAL

I hope holo and nijis don't do something stupid like raid competition to get number above 500k or a million

>>24408541
>>24408524
>>24408527
If it's bad wiring wouldn't her connection be bad all the time unlike what we are seeing now where it's okay for awhile, and then it fucking craters?

>>24408541
You can live in a good area but have shit wiring due to age. There are plenty of places like that in Vancouver/Lower Mainland of BC.

Nijisis in shambles right now funny af

>hey guys my stream won't work properly come watch the exact same stream you've been watching on this other channel POV
ok!
>hey guys my stream won't work properly come watch the exact same stream you've been watching on this other channel POV, here let me use a site feature to speed that up for you
NOT OKAY

Like I get why people sperg out about twitch raids, but this is not sending someone to a different stream, its the same fucking stream.

>>24408076
My autoplay was off and it redirected when she ended the frame.

My precious, pure peak ccv... ruined...

>>24408574
it's gunna be worse when a completely unrelated stream gets raided, atleast with this one they are in the same collab and it was basically just moving over her viewers to keep watching her

>>24408541
I had a bad cable coming into my house and the packet loss was sporadic. It would be fine for hours and then just randomly shit the bed. I complained to the cable company and they sent someone to track down the issue and fixed it.

I swear, I can get schizos hating on other HoloEN members but Fauna too? She is probably the most harmless.

>>24408579
Probably mad at the greennigger avatar back in /jp/

So anons, what’s the odds that Mumei raids Bae’s MC stream since Gura and others are almost guaranteed to be joining her

Imagine 4-5 Holo ENs, a couple IDs, and some JPs streaming at like 6-7 PM. 8 Pm hits, Gura karaoke starts, 5 minutes in right before the first song everyone ends and raids all their audience into Gura. Think of the numbers.

>>24408005
These are her usual numbers. Saplings are extremely consistent and loyal.

>>24408649
the way it works they cant raid between companies
However this means the manager already set their channels to allow raiding between each other or maybe is enabled by default becasue of the MCN thing.

>be Chloe
>by far had the best start in holox
>struggling to break 10k on non-karaoke streams
>be Koyori
>it took her thrice as long to get as many subs as Chloe
>now getting over 10k semi regularly on every stream
What the fuck went so wrong with the former and what went so right with the latter?

>>24408700
We still need to check if the same happens with different streams like new year outfits

>>24408726
Honestly if NijiEN hasn't been using its 100% management banned to do it normally. Like, I'm not even saying it to shit on them, they've never been averse to go for bigger numbers and try to redistribute them.

How long until nipplesanji with their million livers create the perfect 24hr raid cycle to retain viewers

>>24408776
Avatarfag*

It'd be real funny if Mori raids Mooms right now.

>>24408772
There's a dedicated Fauna schizo here, somewhere.

>>24408825
The tally is ruined

>>24408772
There's a Faunafag shitting up /hlg/ 24/7. Blame him.

>>24408844
if they start randomly doing it after today, what does it mean

>>24408649
can't wait for all of the nijis streaming before a unarchived karaoke click the raid button all in the same time
the power of RAID and WORM

>>24408833
JUST STREAM
thats all people ask

>>24408873
Did Mori beat Malenia?

>>24408772
we have a resident fauna anti here thats here at least 16 hours a day

>>24408941
isn't that just towaflip?

>we should play league
GURA NO

>>24408833
Chloe having 50% of her streams be SC streams. Koyori SC streams got drowned out by the shear amount of streams she did.

>>24408992
not even close lol

>>24408836
Did anyone monitor that Niji karaoke relay from a few days ago? Did it use raid? The numbers between Enna and Uki were nigh identical.

>>24408948
Hopefully EN3 gets someone like Koyori

Mumei going to raid mori isn't she.....

Can't wait to see a 40k Luxiem Karaoke raid a 500 views Reimu stream

>>24408704
oh wha?
The YT video that talked about the redirect system mentioned autoplay needs to be on to get redirected, unless it changed?

>>24408947
If Holos never do it again after today what would that mean? Probably that management never bothered to tell them not to do it. As for Niji not doing it, yes it's almost certainly management mandated as they are all the type that would do it naturally, especially former twitch streamer like...well half of them.

>we should play dota
GURA YES

>>24409087
She's more likely to raid Fauna if anything

>>24408809
Nah, imagine a Miko WWE2K numbers raiding Anya's stream because she's the only one streaming when Miko ends her stream.

>>24409087
Fuck mori, do zeta.

>>24409044
No, they didn't a message have to appear

>>24409158
holy shit
just imagining about it...

>>24408704
>>24409123 (me)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV8gOpyImsQ
video related

>>24409121
>viewers jump by less than 10k
>30k bots never made it over

>>24409087
https://youtu.be/I6TWKbaeEyg
You already know the raid’s coming

>>24409171
Mumei isn't subbed to Zeta.

>>24408833
In Koyori’s case, she streams more often and does more to network with other girls and cultivate western viewers. She benefits from the box because she became the box.

>>24409121
I think they won't because they know the bots won't transfer, like with the Sara Nagare raid. It would be embarrassing to raid someone with 40k and 8k show up at the raided stream.

>>24409014
Why not?

>>24408121
Raids move real views, worms and bots aren't real views.

I'll say that the interesting part about this raid is that the viewers are actually sticking around. One of the troubles with the peak ccv on Twitch raids is that they bleed incredibly fast. You'll get a huge spike and then the stream will return to normal viewership levels. My guess is retention is better here because it's only a POV shift, but now I want to see a "normal" raid with one holo or niji sending their viewers to a totally different stream and see if the viewers stick

>>24409133
i was joking about if nijiEN randomly started raiding after today, would mean they were monitoring holoEN or this thread

You schizos spazzing out about raids are really going to ignore this was the exact same collab? Mumei's not gonna raid anyone.

>>24409147
Isn't Fauna's thing prerecorded, and also ASMR? Would be a weird thing to raid. Waiting for Bae to start and raid her would make more sense.

So is Mumei's peak identical to Ina/Mumei's combine peak? Wonder how many viewer lost during the transfer.

>>24408992
lelelelelel
She isn't even at Melenia yet.

>>24409308
Well they were technically watching the same stream so is no surprise

Rememebr when Mysta "raided" myka on sony's birthday?

>>24409337
No, it's not pre-recorded. Her pre-recorded ones usually last only 15-20 minutes save for 1 she did because she still wasn't' happy with her setup.

>>24409308
Ask miko playing wwe raid anya so anya get gold

>>24409218
Yeah bots are designed to inflate only the channel that paid for them. Actually good coding there.

>>24409342
About 3k viewers missing. Either YT multi-tab viewership culling isn't perfect, some people didn't bother and peaced out, etc etc.
Hard to be sure where those viewers went.

>>24409309
Hololive is always the trendsetter. How does Yagoo always do it?

>everyone hates raids on twitch
>first time they see someone on youtube they like do a raid
>suddenly salivating over the numbers potential of raids

This is how they get you bros. It's insidious. Pretty soon you'll be randomly saying pog and asking them for face reveals. Don't do it.

>>24409337
says Live instead of Premiering, but yeah forgot about Bae that one make more sense

>>24409342
19k peak/17.5k before Ina ended

>>24409334
40% chance Bae gets raided

>>24407984
Also people who watched both streams on different devices (laptop/phone)
And maybe people who watched using picture in picture from 2 different browsers (as 1 can only get you 1 pip)

>>24409450
Hololive board, hololive industry

>>24409044
>name peak / %change
seffnya 4,907
sara 9,201 / 87.51%
reza 7,719 / -16.11%
hayun 8,246 / 6.83%
nara 9,471 / 14.86%
akane 10,739 / 13.39%

enna 24,738 / 130.36% ??
uki 25,770 / 4.17%

>>24409342
No, their combined peak was like 10k + 9k. Even when Ina raided, it was 10.5k (Mumei) and 6k (Ina) so it didn’t reach either peak, but Fauna did climb 1k+ after Ina raided so maybe some of those viewers went to watch her

>>24409456
ive seen people unironically want react content to chase numbers, we past that slope awhile ago we even have twitch tally anon. granted hes harmless and brings good numbers thats something that wouldve been laughed out of the threads a few months ago.

>>24408833
Chloe grew complacent whereas Koyori has been bashing her head into the wall to incline city since debut and it's working very well for her as you can see.

>raids are suddenly fine after weeks of doomposting
it will be funny when NijiEN starts to use the function pretty often and we see mutliple girls getting boosted by the guys
I am sure then the doomposting will start a new

>>24409456
The number would be literally the same, just jumping from Holo to Holo
It’s no different than funneling except with 100% rate?

>>24409456
People don't like raids on twitch because any random streamer can raid you.
This thread hates raids because it fucks with peak ccv.

>>24409337
Not prerecorded. She actually said happy birthday to a birthday akasupa.

All EN streams are now banned from the count and /#/ is saved

>>24409425
>Well they were technically watching the same stream so is no surprise
Yes, like I said that's what I suspected. What I'm trying to get at is whether or not the concept of the "holobox" would lead to better retention for raid viewers compared to raids on Twitch, my hypothesis being that it would. This stream isn't a good example, so I'd like to see someone do a proper raid to test that out

>>24409561
Why would bots watch the girls? At least we know HoloEN viewers are real.

>>24409456
Myth is trendsetter so of course it's now ok.

>>24409561
Luxiem audience are very volatile so don't expect good faith from them if they do that.

>>24409567
Agreed.

>>24409561
>we hate gifted memberships it ruins the ambiance of member streams and streamers hate it
>youtube makes a way to see how many memberships someone has been gifted
>holy shit look at all these memberships, so much money, so many numbers, so awesome

>>24408833
She tried to rely solely on JP pandering, a retarded approach when the vast majority of hololive's fans exist outside of the dying country that is Japan.

>>24409561
They're not fine, you're just ignoring the context behind this raid. No one was ever spazzing out about raids in the context of
>oh my god imagine if someones multipov POV crashes and they send their viewers to watch the other POV while still playing
Like, in how much bad faith are you arguing right now?

>>24409531
Naaah.
If Twitch-tally anon had started earlier would've been fine, Twitch CCV isn't tracked the same as YT's absolutely clusterfucked system.

Remember, this raid function is in beta so you will have to apply to get it.

>>24409567
I remember someone asked Xqc to raid someone on Twitch and he flat out say “Absolutely not”
It seem even Twitch streamers not too fond of that feature

>>24409561
I don't participate in the tribal wars ITT so it never bothered me too much in the first place, but the moment it becomes common practice for both sides the thread will accept it or if only Hololive does it, that just the way the thread skews

69

>holoEN DQ
>nijiEN DQ
alright so whos next up to claim cripple gold if we drop the 5k limit low enough to start picking up small EN startups like Kawaii, Prism, Phase and co

>>24409561
i actually want to see vox raid someone after he got a high score
want to know if the viewfarm will follow the redirect. they have monetary reason not to do that.
like with sara's botted stream, it bots didn't follow the redirect. only the 100 or so onlookers.

>>24409729
I wouldn't wish his audience on any other streamer.

The big numbers are coming back bros I can feel it.
All Hololive need to do now is block the raid from leech and only let holo raid other holo's and the chaos will be contained.
Question for the stream watcher, did Ina chat started doing the usual faggotry screaming Ina raid and what not when they arrived?

>>24409846
If they do follow would you cease the unsubstantial accusations?

Why is Miyako so unpopular in Niji? She seems to have a pretty good design (well, cleavage at least).

>>24409729
In xqc case is different he knows that his chat is toxic, there's this retarded way of thinking on "twitch drama" that you are responsible for how your chat behave even outside of your stream

>>24409886
Yes, and Mumei got a notification too.

GURA IS GOING TO BRAZIL

Mumeis chat is so fucking grey

>>24409807
holojp likely not going to do it. especially during primetime unless there's only one other holo streaming. it would create an atmosphere of unfairness. the natural funnel at least lets the box viewers to go to whichever next stream they care about.

>>24409886
I'm pretty sure that you can only raid people that are sub to you and you sub back

>>24409928
Who the fuck is Miyako?

>>24409886
They don't stream consistently enough to gain any long term benefits from raiding

I just read the thread. Should gen 3 recruit more people from canada? Like even holoid connection is not that terrible.

>>24410012
never mind it was because Brazil was mentioned and the fucking Brazilians started chatting more for a moment, fucking figures Brazilians wouldnt member shit

>>24409926
Sure, it's only fair I feel

As soon as Gura mentioned Brazil, a bunch of them popped out. This feels almost magical at this point.

>>24409926
No I'll think of something else.

>>24409926
i never made unsubstantiated accusations. always have numbers to backup all my claims.
only speculations i made were on how the flagging algo works.

>>24409973
Okay not really a fan of this then...
Why cant people just act normally when raiding.

>>24409886
Yeah people were saying WAH and "tako raid" ect

I said WAH

>homo raids with 30k people
>only 3k show up
this thread will melt

>>24410118
I mean there's a Brazilian clip channel that gets 20k views

>>24410118
It's just like what happens when a JP speaks english

>>24410231
>homos raid with 30k
>30k show up
this thread will melt either way

>>24410231
I feel like they don't even know how much of their audience is real, and probably aren't eager to find out.

The one thing I’ll say about raids, at least in ENs case, is that it’d definitely help bring in some more member familiarity for viewers to actually tune into. So many times you see a stream end and you get like, a 1k funnel out of 10k viewers. It’d be an artificial way to helo grow channels more. But I think for now I hope it has some purpose to it (like this stream) and not just an every day thing. People value clean chats and not being thrown into this chaotic period of when raids happen

>>24410157
Your post assumed Vox had viewfarms watching him (in significant amount, implied), was that not speculation? Any numbers to back that up?

>>24408121
What did i say before?

EN Tally need to be removed LONG TIME AGO!

Nijinigger keep it around and when HoloEn Win because of raid, THEY CALL FOR REMOVAL TOO.

STFU! If you want it removed then remove here from now on.

>>24410274
Since NijiEN is culled so heavily, I think 69k people will show up.

So... all EN streams are disqualified from now on right? We can stop talking about midgets now

27k watching holo en

if JPs start raiding eachother do we start counting ENs again

>>24410035
https://vrabi.net/channel/UCHK5wkevfaGrPr7j3g56Jmw

>>24410416
...so who the fuck is Miyako

>>24410340
yeah vox median peaks 9428. celebration peaks 40k.

Even if there was a bot test from a extreme scenario like Vox sending 20k viewers to Reimu the retention would be low as tons of fujos dislike NijiEN girls, even the retention from a raid to a genmate would be iffy if say Vox passed 20k from I suck your lips ASMR into a Luca Jump King or whatever.

That's why a raid in a different POV like Valorant or whatever where the same Luxiem members are would be the best test to prove the experiment.

>>24410411
Ramy, koyo or shuba raid gura!??

>>24410324
People overestimate how much anyone gives a shit about chat or how disruptive raids are. Between streamers of the same company a raid is like, a complete nonissue. Getting raided by like, Sykuno or Pewdiepie would be annoying but they'll never give those people access so it doesn't matter. If the worst thing that happens to you is people saying "I came from X streamer" for 2 minutes for an extra 5k CCV you're having a pretty fucking nice day.

>>24410457
that onee-san that play apex with astel

>>24410365
finally jp bros back to the good old days of honest numberfagging

Man i can already see the funnel Bae is gonna get

>>24410559
ah, okay now we are talking
She seems fine though on astel's level

>>24410575
She should get at least a little bit now that Fauna's over. Knowing Gura is going to move over to Minecraft should also give her a bigger boost

>>24410575
>implying people won't go to Gura's stream instead

>>24410493
Who said fujos dislike NijiEN girls? How uninformed are you when most NijiEN fans think highly of the girls as well. They prefer unity more than anything.

Bae.....

Gura was supposed to play minecraft with Bae...

>>24410634
yes, that's why they get 1/10 of viewers

>>24410634

>>24410632
HA HA

>>24410634
why they not watch selen when vox is playing with her?

>>24410634
>*sifts over lazulights 1 year anniversary numbers*
uh huh

The most terrifying things that would happen with raid is favoritism
>”Why the fuck Miko raid *insert Holo name* instead of *other Holo name*”
You know people will make a big deal out of it and I am not ready for that

>>24410634
island fujos definitely hate petra for sucking ccp dick. they had a hissy fit about it.

Next youtube view update or 2 and she should have passed Vox. Late update because I actually got distracted by her ASMR.

>>24410634
nigger are you fucking serious?

>>24410855
Not to mention chat begging for raids. I already see people telling Mumei to raid Bae.

>>24410855
Imagine Miko with the 100k raid on Pekora playing some kusogame after some WWE kino just to flex on her

>>24406558
>>24406619
I'm curious as to what Aqua's stream to gold ratio is. She hasn't streamed much at all this year and she is tied for #1 in golds with a whopping 16 total.

>>24410855
yeah i think that is the the main problem with doing it for poeple with lots of streams going on.

>>24410855
we all know cover will prohibit raids at this first sign of this happening

>>24410487
Choco's avg ccv was 4k in April, yet her peak stream had 40k. Was she viewfarming then too?

>>24410855
there has literally not been a single stream to stream raid. this is the same fucking stream, Ina could no longer do her POV, she sent people to where they can watch her. THESE ARE THE SAME VIEWERS THAT WERE ALREADY WATCHING THE EXACT SAME CONTENT

why has this spurned 300+ posts????

>>24410966
So pretty soon I guess

>Kobo +6k subs 12h after getting unbanned without having streamed
Nerf this indog cunny pls

>>24410855
then we need a raid randomizer! Gacha raid! Nips will love it...

>>24410487
NTA and I wouldn't be surprised if there are viewfarms in Vox's streams, but what you mentioned isn't really proof beyond reasonable doubt. Both HoloJP and NijiJP members usually get significantly higher numbers during special streams (karaoke, celebration, outfit, etc.) than their median as well (how much higher depends on
There isn't any real irrevocable evidence that there are bots or viewfarms involved in Vox / Luxiem streams yet. Yes, those wormed graphs looked suspicious as fuck - but that's the extent of it for now

>>24410855
Just make a rule you have to raid the person streaming with the lowest CCV (in the same branch), and make them have a "raid accepted" notification on the discord so they can opt out of people raiding them if they're doing a stream it would be disruptive for.

>>24411058
It opened Pandora’s Box.

>>24411058
> why /#/ gets mindbroken so easily?

You must be new here.

>>24410855
>miko raids oga
this shit would be hilarious

RAID INCOMING

NUMBERS

>>24411028
that's just the holobox. we've seen how that works with other lower number holos like roboco. 40k actually kinda low. full holobox is around 120k.
luxiem box is around 10-12k looking at their full collab average from january-april.

>>24411167
I want to open Mumei's Box, if you know what I mean

>>24410632
>Send raid over Bae's stream. Set it to auto-redirect
>Quickly turn the stream off right after last match
>People who don't want to watch Bae will just move to Gura stream later, but at least it looks like raid processing speed is pretty fast judging by Mumei's graph
>Profit?
IDK how YT raids work and how different they are from Twitch, but wouldn't above method work?

ILLEGAL VOICE CHATS ACROSS UNRELATED STREAMS

>>24411167

OH NO NO THE ILLEGAL BAE RAID

wtf is going on today?

WAIT THIS IS ILLEGAL

>>24411255
The rrats between those two run deep and involves roommate stuff so it would be quite interesting, lmao.

Raids saikou!

>Gura had the courage to actually ask her friends to keep playing games with her
God, imagine if she actually focused on buff content

>>24411306
>luxiem box is around 10-12k
Their noctyx debuts had 60k anon, where are you getting that numbers?

>>24411103
They tried twice, that’s what led to this scenario.

ACTUALLY ILEGAL STREAMS

So peak CCV is meaningless now, even for the virtual horserace /here/?

>>24411103
Kobo's days are gone anon, the bans hurt her momentum.

We did it VODbros, we ruined CCV forever!

>HoloEN absolute Kino
home...

>>24411493
not yet, we haven't seen a true unrelated stream raid yet

>>24411493
Yeah now everyone and their family can get 30k. Just suck the top tier Holo dick so they can raid you
Bad for individual but good for the companies

>>24411478
debut tourists? holox debuts had full holobox + debut tourists. that's how we have 170k debut streams.
i used regular full collab streams. that's how you measure the box viewers. how many actual loyal watchers are there.

>>24411478
Debut number isn't the same thing. I watched the Noctyx debuts (well, some of them) and haven't watched a single stream since. That's tourist central.

>>24411493
>SC is the only legit number now

>>24410457
she has pretty good doujins, even has her own tag

>>24411503
At this rate she's going to get 20k today doing a guerrilla stream playing some random indog game

>>24411478
Debuts are tourist central dumbass. Why the fuck would you think every person who watched a debut is a fan from there on?

>>24411311
Agreed. Imagine her screams as it happens, as the sensory overload transforms her words into incoherent babble.

>>24411575
Pekora is actually irrelevant in every metric now
Finally she can be free from shitposters

Fujos seething because their bots are meaningless

>>24410523
Why did Kronii openly apologize for her pseudo-raid shortly after her debut, then? Clearly some people care (Kronii at least).

Raids either never count or they count absolutely.

>>24411638
It's irrelevant now, but it brings the articles from kaiyou

>>24411575
Not really? Susan did infinite damage to CCV credibility with her culls, by comparison this raiding shit only needs people to see when a raid happens and then use the preraid peak.

>>24411638
NIJI WIN!

>>24411694
is this some kind of falseflag, you know they will create some insane mountain range later today

>>24410855
for nijijp it would be nice with some raids for the smaller streams
then again i think i'll throw up in my mouth if i'm watching one and a nijien raids it

as expected, no aqua stream today https://twitter.com/minatoaqua/status/1526401074281664512

>>24410855
I don't want deadbeats on my dog's chat

Isn't Mori actually pulling really respectable numbers atm? Overlapping a Gura collab + Minecraft and still at 7k? And most people are sick of Elden Ring at this point too. I wouldn't have been shocked if she had half her current CCV.

>>24411722
I think management confronted her about it. I believe it was Fauna who got raided yeah? And she was totally cool with it. But management got in the mix and made her apologize since it’s not a common thing to do obviously in holo

Now that YouTube have raid, can we include Twich in the tally as well.
Or maybe the tally is meaningless anyway

Vrabi finally updated the fucking Fauna stream
>shark teeth
Why

Pekora coming in with La+ to do the shill stream. Can she get the gold?

>>24411503
you act like her channel has gone for weeks, it just two days

>>24411920
No because twitch ccv still isn't 1:1 to youtube CCV

>>24411781
That's because NijiEN cares for each other, and always trying to help each other incline.
I'm glad they are at the top now and not being a walled garden like HoloEN.

>>24411920
no, twitch and youtube count viewers differently

huge fuckin rein

>>24411920
twitch still have funny numbers because they count things that the yt live ccv doesn't like tabbedout, multi-pov, hidden embeds in front page.

>>24411920
better, make a only twitch tally

>>24411920
Twitch can have it own tally but will never get mixed with Global Youtube Tally.

>>24411917
Virtually the same number she had before anyone else started streaming. Core audience and maybe some ER diehards.

Damn you can see just how big a buff game minecra is for these girls if fucking Bae getting overlapped by 5 other holos still can pull 7k on it.

>>24411984
Who cares, she never reaches Luxiem's sub count anyway, and she is still a midget.

>>24411990
so? JP ccv isnt 1:1 to EN CCV as well

>>24411764
What if a stream was going to naturally peak after the point when the raid happened, then? Wouldn't that be unfair?

>>24412067
>she never reaches Luxiem's sub count anyway
anon...the only two people left are Vox and Mysta

>>24411920
Honestly this is the last straw
Now you just need to get close to a top tier Holo to get good ccv with raid. Shit feel like cheating
Back then Holo actually have to try and build their audience

>>24412061
Diehard Elden Ring fans get filtered by how Mori plays.

>>24412024
I remember that ES vtuber (Lina?) got embeded elsewhere and reach like 10k+ with a dead chat.

>>24411920
Twitch has it's own tally. It's not really competitive for gold anyway unless it's some super slow day where they do an outfit reveal and get 28k and somehow win, or you know, get raided by some random popular non-vtuber. That's one of the biggest problems with twitch vtuber-style streamers, they're too mixed up in the non-vtuber ecosystem.

>>24411990
is this because average weight of an NA viewer is triple that of nips figuratively?

>>24411992
Their medians haven't even caught up to Council yet, though...

Seems strange how active HoloEN is lately, new gen coming? It's almost the right time anyway.

>>24412115
Now you're beginning to understand. Peaks have never goddamn mattered.

>>24412017
>>24412024
You have no problem counting both JP and EN/ID despite the latter being culled way worst. Why caring about any of that now?

>>24412169
t. Mika

>>24411954
Nope. There is Chloe BD countdown and Suba Botan Lamy Choco collab

>>24411954
Nah shill stream are shill stream, no amount of buff can get you good number on those
Unless you are Aqua

>>24412063
Watching Holos on their server is like watching some sort of retarded civilization arise or something. It has a narrative unlike most other game streams.

>>24412063
People are anticipating everyone moving to MC, and some of them want to get in early rather than slog through the final couple OW matches.

>>24412236
or Marine

>>24412169
Really nigger, this is the last straw? Ina redirecting to a different POV in a collab she's a part of?
Not the legendary Kanata/Moona leeching? Not all those totsus JP holos spam where the randomest of shitter can get 30-40k because BEGORRA AND MERINE ON DA TELLY SUKI SUKI?

>>24412207
I think June or July is more likely. I don't think them streaming more is related, but there have been a lot of clues it's coming soon outside of that.

>>24412207
Final preparations for Ina's BD and Gura's BD finally being done

>>24412229
Bro this shit actually enable leeching
But I hope the Holos have enough self-respect to not abuse it

I'm not sure how people can watch Bae, she's annoying. And bad at speaking.

RAID INCOMING

>RAIDING BAE
>RAIDING BAE
>RAIDING BAE

RAID INCOMING

>mumei DQ'd
it's over...

SECOND ILLEGAL FUNNEL, LETS GO

>>24412367
nijiseethe

STOP MUMEI NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

ok now it's over

>They are raiding Bae
Numbers... owari da...

Oh nyo, armageddon!

Now that CCV comparison is pointless, it's time for VOD Views after 24 hrs / a week ranking?

RAID SHADOW BAESION

>>24412207
Yagoo is cracking his whip because Coco and Rushia funds are drying out and the members that stayed aren't refilling it fast enough

I wonder if the Takos would transfer to bae's stream or they'll have to go manually.

OH SHIT ANOTHER RAID

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

>enable leeching
ah yeah mika's speciality

>>24412345
>proceeds to make even more retarded comparisons than the other anon
congrats

RAID INCOMING

holy shit it INSTANTLY teleports you

BAE RAID

>>24412345
Yes. All of those you listed are passive leeching
Now the leeching is manual and the Holos can control it

>>24412475
NIJISEETHE

HOLY SHIT, it's just a blink of an eye

>>24410855
you can say the same exact opposite
>Why the fuck [A] didn't raid [B]?
specially when there's no one streaming

ILLEGAL RAIDING! SOME ONE STOP THEM!

rip /#/

ILLEGAL

They will keep using it...
Its over...

OHHHHHHHH BUY BUY BUY GOING TO THE MOON

ILLEGAL

Holy shit, Bae 16k get!

holy mother of seethe

EZ 17K FOR BAE

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH IM GOING FULL SCHIZO ANONS, I CANT TAKE THIS ANYMORE, NOTHING MAKES SENSE, CCV IS POINTLESS, NUMBERS ARE USELESS WHY ARE WE STILL HERE?
HATE YT HATE SUSAN HATE YT HATE SUSAN HATE YT HATE SUSAN HATE YT HATE SUSAN HATE YT HATE SUSAN HATE YT HATE SUSAN HATE YT HATE SUSAN HATE YT HATE SUSAN HATE YT HATE SUSAN HATE YT HATE SUSAN HATE YT HATE SUSAN HATE YT HATE SUSAN HATE YT HATE SUSAN HATE YT HATE SUSAN HATE YT HATE SUSAN HATE YT HATE SUSAN HATE YT HATE SUSAN

TOP 3 NUMBERS MINDBREAK:
MILLIE BOTTED STREAM
SARA BOTTED STREAM
TODAY

/#/ is declining.

>>24412564
I thought it died back when CCVID happened, and we've just been a shambling corpse since

LMAO INSTANT 16K I KNEEL

lmao get fucked numcucks

imagine the shitposting when the mountain range beats this raid later today, the thread will be unusable for the whole day

>>24412207
INA"s BD in 4 days, Gura's 1 mth from now and then Kiara like 3 weeks after that. Probably HoloEN 3 somewhere inbetween or after.

NUMBERS MEAN NOTHING ANYMORE!

>viewers are preverified thus are instantly accounted for

RAIDS SAIKYOU

Bae 17k
The death of /#/

16K, KNEEL TO UNITY

Mumei raid Bae to 16.8k

/#/ is dead now.

4k out of 13k died in the raid btw

/#/ numbers in shambles

WHAT IS OUR PURPOSE NOW?

>Bae 17k
Nothing has meaning anymore

I was ok with the different POV in Overwatch.

NOW THIS IS BS

My numbers nooooo

Ccv inflation to the moonnnnnnn
Hmmmm but for real, isn’t the ranking would still mostly the same? You raid the same amount of people in a Holo with higher floor you still result in higher number anyway

BASED BASED BASED

This is the true holobox

>>24412207
"""active"""

I think the raid system is effective for Hololive since Holo has its own box. This means the retention might be better compared to others on Twitch.

BAE 17K LMAO

THE END OF NUMBERS GURA RAIDS INCOMING

Feelings on raid feature

http://poal.me/km78ou
http://poal.me/km78ou
http://poal.me/km78ou

Kek /#/ is finally fucking dead lmao.

Bae doesn't even deserve it