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9287526 No.9287526 [Reply] [Original]

Greatest writers were very autobiographical
>Pessoa
>St Augustine
>Proust
>Melville
Except Melville they all had "boring". So why there is this opinion on /lit/ that writing about own life is bad? My suffering is only thing that interests me, so should i not write anything? I also think my experiences and thoughts may be universal in some way. Only way i am afraid is exposing too much without disguising it, what could ruin my relations with family and friends in future

>> No.9287530

*"boring" lives

>> No.9287556

>>9287526
>boring lives
Maybe, but their insights on said lives are anything but boring.
Basically you can do it if you're a literary genius. If you're not, I don't know, write about robots, orcs and relationships.



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9287501 No.9287501 [Reply] [Original]

In reading Paradise Lost I've come to grapple with what seems to be Adam's unrest in the garden of Eden. He acknowledges a thirst he has for knowledge in book eight when probing Raphael about certain curiosities that he has. This seems to point out a fundamental lacking Adam has in overall fulfilment. This questioning of the cosmos and the mysteries around him seem to all point to the fact that Eden isn't as blissfully carefree as we're meant to think. It seems that Adam wants more than this just like he wanted a partner in Eve. How do Miltonian's explain this?

>> No.9287522

Furthermore this seems to almost vindicate Satan's first observations in which he perfieced imposed ignorance on Adam and Eve in the garden. It seems that that wasn't just Satan trying to paint God as a tyrant (which he is guilty of often) because Adam himself seems to be in satisfied with his lot

>> No.9287531

Perceived**^



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9287497 No.9287497 [Reply] [Original]

Is beauty in writing ineffable? Or, rather, undefinable?

I feel like, in all the languages, we know what beautiful writing is. With English, we can point to the best of Melville or Joyce or Shakespeare and say, "This is beautiful." But we don't seem to be able to say why. I guess we could dive into linguistics and phonetics, talk about assonance and consonance and such, but that seems to not be enough.

I guess beauty, in general, is pretty ineffable, but I wonder if it's particularly the case for writing.



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9287465 No.9287465 [Reply] [Original]

you start with the greeks, but what do you end with?

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>> No.9287513

>>9287465
The modern Greeks

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9287535

>>9287465
/r9k/ circa 2015
/pol/ circa 2016-2017
Filthy Frank
r/writingprompts

>> No.9287547

>>9287465
Wittgenstein

>> No.9287549

>>9287488
I remember reading that book when I was a teen, the author of those illustrations was one insane motherfucker.

>> No.9287554

>>9287465
Why is it start with the Greeks? I think it should be begin with the Babylonians, with the Epic of Gilgamesh replacing the Iliad as the initial great piece of literature.

Prove me wrong



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9287431 No.9287431 [Reply] [Original]

I have yet to come across a valid criticism of the critiques.

>> No.9287477

impressive (autistic) system building but really we can't never not know nothing

>> No.9287516

>>9287477
>quadruple negation
HOLY.....

>> No.9287518

>>9287431
non euclidean geometry

>> No.9287519

>>9287431
Read Hegel

tl;dr Kant was the Jew all along

>> No.9287542

>>9287518
specifically, the application of non euclidean geometry in relativistic physics



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9287422 No.9287422 [DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

>mfw I took the redpill and realized that all women writers are trash

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9287443

Woke yourself.

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9287454

my dude

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9287456

>>9287435

>> No.9287460

>>9287435
>someone is making a decent living by writing this shit

really pondering, really

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9287461

>All women writers are tra-



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9287414 No.9287414 [Reply] [Original]

How much he exaggerated his lifestyle?

>> No.9287428

>>9287414

likely not too much. probably just left out all the terrible shit and people he alienated and kept in the good stuff and the people who operated on a similar wavelength. hell of a writer though.

>> No.9287463

>did ur parents ever teach u see what I have learned from this mistake is not representative of asian women OP.



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9287390 No.9287390 [Reply] [Original]

ITT: Books /lit/ tricked you into reading. Pic absolutely related to the topic of this thread.

>> No.9287446

>>9287390

i hate atwood and that book is terrible. had to read it for class though, not /lit/

>> No.9287464

>>9287390
No one tricked you into reading this. Wtf we never talk about this.

>> No.9287521

>>9287390
I had to read that three times in college. I think I only read Frankenstein more. I remember one of my literature professors making an impassioned yet thinly veiled speech against Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan and how America could fractured and women could lose their rights, etc.

>> No.9287527

>>9287521
Liberal arts classes were a mistake



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9287383 No.9287383 [Reply] [Original]

ITT: post penguin classics that are preferable to other editions

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>> No.9287480

Their Borges covers are pretty cool, I guess

>> No.9287492

>that font
>white and grey on white and grey
i own this copy though. it was cheap.

>> No.9287509

I like the Modern Classics Nabokov ones.

>> No.9287515

>>9287383
this is such an awful cover

anyways, I think Augustines Confessions is okay in the penguin edition

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9287540



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9287362 No.9287362 [Reply] [Original]

How do I live the Tao Lin literary lifestyle™?

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>> No.9287378

Didn't he rape someone?

>> No.9287379

just be mediocre and uh....that's about it.

>> No.9287402

>>9287362
Have rich parents. His dad invented velcro and his mom brought those Asian fish foot massage things to the west. So yeah have rich parents.

>> No.9287408

>>9287379

Nah, drugs and autism are integral parts.

>> No.9287411

>>9287402
Interesting. source?



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9287345 No.9287345 [DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Has anyone read this?
Is it really informative about the SJW's?
Anything else like this?

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>> No.9287444

>>9287420
>>9287426
*silently smirks and goes back to reading his copy of Infinite Jest*

>> No.9287448

>>9287433
what about drumpf and white people?

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9287450

>MOMMY THEY TELL ME THINGS I DON'T LIKE AND I CAN'T CHALLENGE IT BECAUSE THEY'RE RIGHT ITS A CONSPIRACY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.9287451

>>9287433
That you, BAP?

>> No.9287458

>>9287448
Death to America
>>9287451
YOU ARE GAY



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9287337 No.9287337 [Reply] [Original]

English is not my first language, so I would like some help to understand this poem by Zen master Hakuin Ekaku:

You no sooner attain the great void
Than body and mind are lost together.
Heaven and Hell -- a straw.
The Buddha-realm, Pandemonium -- shambles.
Listen: a nightingale strains her voice, serenading the snow.
Look: a tortoise wearing a sword climbs the lampstand.
Should you desire the great tranquility,
Prepare to sweat white beads.

I want to know what the word: "shambles" mean. What are some synonyms for it?

Also, this line:

>Look: a tortoise wearing a sword climbs the lampstand.

Is he talking about a turtle? I dont quite understand this line.

Also: Zen poetry thread.

>> No.9287483

>>9287337
do u have the original japanese? I know japanese so that might help

>> No.9287498

>>9287483
You know japanese?
What is the meaning of the words in Op's pic?

>> No.9287514

>>9287483

Sorry, I dont. But as far as I know Hakuin Ekaku didn't wrote many poems. I think that if you search in japanese for his poetry you might find.



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9287311 No.9287311 [Reply] [Original]

How does one write romance novels?

>> No.9287325

smoke heroin

>> No.9287343

>>9287325
Elaborate.

>> No.9287377

>>9287311
A prerequisite is that you were at one point in love. In short, virgins can't right them!

>> No.9287381

>>9287377
I have never been in love. Should I just give up and write about something else?

>> No.9287404

>>9287377
>virgins can't right
lol u never had sex



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9287307 No.9287307 [Reply] [Original]

Will literature endure the Information Age?

>> No.9287328

In the future literature will be uploaded to our xenofeminist bodies

>> No.9287478

>>9287307
Has it?

>> No.9287486

Information won't survive the Information Age.



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9287305 No.9287305 [Reply] [Original]

I don't get Husserl. Every time I think I get this piece of shit he comes out of left field and asks me to believe in some kind of logical realism. Some shit that makes no sense.

I get Heidegger just fine. Why can't I get Husserl?

Can someone well-informed please explain Husserl to me? Particularly his transcendental turn. I'm reading two books on it right now (Dermot Moran) and I still don't get it.

>> No.9287525

>>9287305
Your mental blocking the effects of a large dosage of Platonism. You need to let go of your preconceptions and allow the light of the rational to guide you

>> No.9287534

>>9287305
Too smart 4 you

>> No.9287555

>>9287305
I actually studied directly under Dermot Moran in Dublin. He's an excellent lecturer and really opened my eyes to the importance of Husserl, to the point he was only rivaled by Wittgenstein for his impact among 20th century philosophers.

Really though if you can't comprehend him on this wide a level I don't know what I can tell you other than git gud



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9287300 No.9287300 [Reply] [Original]

What do you read when you feel sad and hate yourself?

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>> No.9287366

>>9287300
I don't.

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9287370

i read this

>>9287300
>>9287300

>> No.9287371

Nothing, when I get depressed I can't do much of anything other than throw on a record and lie in bed. Reading is something I do when I'm a little happier

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>> No.9287406

>>9287371
>>9287366
This. I sometimes try to force myself through something but I usually give up after a few lines.



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9287287 No.9287287 [Reply] [Original]

Why does pic related resonate with manlets so well?
Even the most famous manlet of all, Napoleon, read this 7 times or so.

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>> No.9287314

This cover is an insult to Goethe

>> No.9287340

>>9287314
This novel is pretty dumb and not that great anyway
>>9287287
Because it is in every way a book for angsty incel cuckolds, the vast majority of manlets automatically become this.

Pretty funny that it was written by a guy that was actually Chad all along

>> No.9287493

>/lit/ insulting Goethe
Wow what a surprise. I really expected more of you i/lit/erates.

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9287523

Preferred the Italian rip-off desu, it was more interesting

>> No.9287532

>>9287493

you missed an L



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9287241 No.9287241 [Reply] [Original]

Is he a crypto deleuzian?

>> No.9287250

>>9287241
nah, his delusion is on full display

>> No.9287254

>>9287250
heh

>> No.9287257

His views on sexuality seem pretty Freudian to me.



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9287232 No.9287232 [Reply] [Original]

>Four weeks ago, work up the courage to send in a manuscript to a publishing house that's asking for submissions
>Nothing in reply

DON'T EVEN WARRANT A FUCKING REJECTION

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>> No.9287413

>>9287232
>spend 3 days writing story that had been in my head for a year
>gets positive feedback in critique threads
>go to submit the story
>the deadline was an hour before
what a horrible feel

>> No.9287419

>>9287232
This is from Asano right?

>> No.9287430

>>9287413

>3 day draft

It was shit and I don't even need to read it

>> No.9287494

>>9287430
t. slowcuck

>> No.9287524

>>9287253
It looks like Asano's artwork, i don't know which manga though, i am very helpful.



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9287083 No.9287083 [Reply] [Original]

What do you guys think of Hermann Hesse? Did you read any of his books, and if yes what did you love or hate about his way to write?

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>> No.9287134

>>9287083
Read Siddhartha, thought it was okay, made me kind of hate Hesse though cause he shit talked Stefan Zweig (my boy) and then when I gave him the benefit of the doubt and read Sid. it was mediocre.

Anyways, what I liked about Siddhartha was the style, and description(s) of the sultry climate, Hesse did a good job at emoting the tranquil

>> No.9287154

>>9287134
I read steppenwolf and I thought it was great because Hesse wrote about a person being an introvert who experiences new things in different ways. He also describes the illusion of what we see and what we think is true perfectly.

>> No.9287277

>>9287083
Tried reading steppenwolf, it wasn't bad but it didn't manage to captivate me enough to finish it.

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I just finished Narcissus and Goldmund on Wednesday - it was my first book from Hesse. All in all it is a pretty good read. You really see how much Hesse loves the lifestyle of a free mind and the struggles that come with it. Nonetheless, I expected that both completely different protagonists (the settled intellectual and the artistic vagabond) whould be compared throughout the entire novel, but it focused on Goldmund (the artistic vagabond) almost throughout the whole book.

The pacing was alright, but in some passages would be more psychologized - heh, but maybe I'm too spoiled from Dostoyevsky in this regard.

PS: I've read on this board that it is common among Hesse's works that he usually compares two opposites in his works.

>> No.9287333

>>9287323
*but in some passages, I wish they would be more psychologized



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