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22091085 No.22091085 [Reply] [Original]

What do you think of this guy reading order

>1st tetralogy (getting started): Alcibiades I + Lysis/Laches/Charmides
>2nd tetralogy (the sophists): Protagoras +Hippias major/Hippias minor/Gorgias
>3rd tetralogy (Socrates'trial): Meno + Euthyphro/Apology/Crito
>4th tetralogy (the soul): Symposium + Phædrus/Republic/Phædo
>5th tetralogy (logos): Cratylus + Ion/Euthydemus/Menexenus
>6th tetralogy (dialectic): Parmenides + Theætetus/Sophist/Statesman
>7th tetralogy (kosmos): Philebus + Timæus/Critias/Laws

What order do you recommend? I already read about 10 dialogue once or twice in a random order and would like to have a more structured approach

>> No.22091089

hot take, i like the dramatic order or chronological order but you should skip parmenides and come back to it last, start with Protagoras, Alcibades, Charmendies and republuc

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22091068 No.22091068 [Reply] [Original]

I can get one of them for my birthday. Which one should it be and why?

>> No.22091082

Gag on a BBC, you little white worm.

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22090985 No.22090985 [Reply] [Original]

I am not sorry to have read in my life a sort of modern age book of all things. An eloquent and self-critical writer, full of references, the choice between what makes philosophically thoughtful and what isn't, no embellishments, no optimism, no profit, commandment and politics being equally impossible—and still, for all this, a cheerful outlook, a kind of domestic well-being of the most primitive kind. But this is what succeeds in having a critical and intellectual mind and being able to engage and criticize the opinion of others.

>> No.22091002

What am I reading here?

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22090984 No.22090984 [Reply] [Original]

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>> No.22091028

Bro this world is a fucking simulation. There is no way I read a book on this guy and then there is a thread talking about him for the first time in probably years.

This kind of bullshit happens way too often to be a coincidence.

That said I do find Parfit's Selector argument to be intriguing.

>> No.22091046

The one by David Edmonds? I haven't gotten around to it yet and if I'm honest with myself probably never will. First of all: Frequency illusion. Secondly, it's not a coincidence. There are powerful forces moving in the world and even though he's dead, Parfit's influence is still around. Not magic, just being vague.

>> No.22091061

Yeah. David Edmonds.

>> No.22091066

Skimming, how is selector theory different from tegmark 4? Just offering a layered mechanism?
I mostly just chalk these things up to obersever selection bias and call it a day.

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22090956 No.22090956 [Reply] [Original]

What are some "will put you on a watch list" books?

>> No.22091032

Blood Meridian

>> No.22091050

Left Behind

>> No.22091051

Buying stuff like the turner diaries and then buying pistol brace firearms and a lot of ammunition would probably get the ATF to send some obese Faggot to your house.

>> No.22091053

Das Kapital

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22090928 No.22090928 [Reply] [Original]

Will listening to audiobooks of fancy literature as you go to sleep make your vocabulary more smarter? My iq is 93 btw

>> No.22090933

No, but reading fancy literature before you go to sleep and looking up words you don't know will :)

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22090925 No.22090925 [Reply] [Original]

>court eunuch
>court eunuch
>oracle priestess
>court eunuch
>scheming vizier
>temple guardian trapped within an artifact
>backup oracle priestess
>court eunuch

>> No.22090934

for me it's court eunuch

>> No.22090997

Court NEET, take it or leave it

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22090913 No.22090913 [Reply] [Original]

Twilight Volume One by Stephanie Meyer has been rated over 6 million times kn goodreads. Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone has over 9 million ratings. Why should I bother reading Moby Dick (500,000 ratings) when it has approximately 5% as many ratings as the first Harry Potter?

>> No.22090932

Long-haul. Moby Dick will have a consistent readership in five hundred years beyond the others

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22090901 No.22090901 [Reply] [Original]

In The Great Reset: And the War for the World, the most controversial man on earth Alex Jones gives you a full analysis of The Great Reset, the global elite's international conspiracy to enslave humanity and all life on the planet.

If you really want to know what’s happening in the world, this is the one book you must read now. Alex Jones is the most censored man on the planet and you should ask yourself why that is. There is a powerful authoritarian takeover in process that is seeking to capture the entire human system and turn it into an artificial factory farm controlled system. We are in a war for the future of the world. In this book, you will hear from the world’s elites, from their own mouths, what they are planning for you and your families and you will learn what you can do to fight it.

From central bankers, corporate billionaires, and corrupted government officials, global elites have been organizing a historic war on humanity under a trans-humanist, scientific dictatorship. Alex Jones was the first major figure to expose the World Economic Forum’s agenda. He has dedicated the last 30 years of his life to studying The Great Reset, conducting tens of thousands of interviews with top-level scientists, politicians, and military officials in order to reverse engineer their secrets and help awaken humanity.

The Great Reset: And the War for the World chronicles the history of the global elites' rise to power and reveals how they’ve captured the governments of the world and financed The Great Reset to pave the way for The New World Order.

Once dubbed a conspiracy theory, but now openly promoted by the most powerful corporations and governments, The Great Reset is a planned attempt to redistribute all the world’s wealth and power into the hands of banks, corporations, billionaires, and The World Economic Forum.

If you read one book in a lifetime, this is it. In The Great Reset: And the War for the World, you will discover from the self-appointed controllers of the planet in their own words, their plan for what they call the final revolution, or The Great Reset.

The only way this corporate fascist conspiracy can succeed is if the people of the world are not aware of it. And this book lays out their sinister blueprint and how to stop it. While many great books have been written to help awaken people to this sinister agenda, no author has ever spent as much time and research on The Great Reset as Alex Jones.

The Great Reset: And the War for the World is the undisputed trailblazer for understanding what’s happening and how to stop it.

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>> No.22090916

Don't forget to buy a signed copy for $100

>> No.22090922

I do not regret to have seen a utopia. In the countryside, far from everything, in an otherworldly landscape, handsome people, cheerful in their spare leisure hours, balancing hard dangerous labour with childish play.

>> No.22090927

I'd read it but only for free

>> No.22090953

They finally made a book adaptation of Evangelion, nice

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22090836 No.22090836 [Reply] [Original]

this is a Buddhist text, transmuted through the autistic and exacting mind of a European

>> No.22090863

Retard: the post

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22090821 No.22090821 [Reply] [Original]

First I read picrel(left) and thought it was the most brutal redpill ever. Then I read picrel(right) and was redpilled yet again, out of what I thought was a redpill before. Does it get any deeper?

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>> No.22091042

So what? These books can apply to older societies too, they just examine our current society. It doesn't matter if we aren't unique, the examinations can still be valid. But maybe I am missing your point.

>> No.22091047

Baudrillard (1981) explicitely ripped off Debord (1967) which was himself a marxist/hegelian

-->read Marx if you want a deeper comprehension about the foundations of the Spectacle (which is to be found in a adequate comprehension of our actual mode of production), skip the manifesto and go directly to the Capital vol.1, the 1844 manuscripts or the German ideology (easier and more historical)

>> No.22091058

Well the points you brought above might be interesting to think about but are they really true? Is democracy, capitalist mode of production, cars, grocery stores a simulacron? To me they seem very real. Why not admit that it's fallacies are symptoms of decay?

>> No.22091067

BLM, LGBT, etc. aren't real.

>> No.22091091

Gay faggotry also existed during the late Roman Empire and bourgeoise Greece. Also naked women in the theatre for everyone to watch them. I see no difference with nowadays except maybe the medium through wich such degeneracy is propagated.

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22090791 No.22090791 [Reply] [Original]

>the negative of “to be good” is “to not be good”, not “to be not-good”

What’s the fucking difference, practically speaking? Everything that is not good, is not-good. So its literally the same.

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>> No.22090892

You are ESL so I will simplify it even further.
>the absence of doing good doesn't necessarily mean doing evil

>> No.22090898

I get your point. But, how does this apply to situation where there’s no third element between the two terms? Like:
>the negation of “to be even” is “to not be even”, not “to be odd”
What’s the difference, if everything that’s not even is odd?

>> No.22090899

To "be" something doesn't literally imply existence, it implies action (after all, you are the sum of your actions). To behave in a way that is not-good is different from not behaving in a way that is good. The latter could mean not behaving at all.

>> No.22090905

"Everything that's not even is odd" only works when there are only 2 options. If there was even, odd, and a third thing, then "not even" wouldn't necessarily mean the same thing as "odd".
It just so happens that the entire point of the quote is to describe that same quality with good and evil (that not everything that is not good is evil).
You are getting too autistically caught up on the linguistic phrasing of "to be not-good" so you are missing that "to be not-good" is being used as a linguistically-pleasing synonym for "to be evil".

>> No.22090923

I understand your point, thank you.
I now get it on situations where we have 3 or more elements. But what I still don’t understand is that Aristotle claims this “rule” in every scenario, i.e even on the even-odd situation, where we only have two elements.

Could it be that, in fact, not everything not-even is odd, because like, “white” isn’t even nor odd?

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22090761 No.22090761 [Reply] [Original]

Do any of you fags know how to speak Latin?

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Can someone post the Andrew Tate prison version of this pic

>> No.22090856

Adding "us" to everything means that you are making it the singular masculine subject of the sentence. It would make you sound like a cave man at best.

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I have been studying Latin and it seems like pretty much anyone could learn to read Latin. Speaking it fluently though is beyond me for now. It would likely require you start as a kid and spend a crazy amount of hours. I will say Greek however is a much more a pain the ass.

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Your GF is correct and wasted on your pleb ass.

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22090756 No.22090756 [Reply] [Original]

There are plenty of literary animals (most prominently cats and whales, go figure), but very few, if any, literary cephalopods (squids, cuttlefish, octopodes, etc.). The closest I can think of is the Kraken, but that’s more monster than animal.

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>> No.22090786

Is t that what hp lovecraft is about

>> No.22090790

There’s that guy with the racist cat

>> No.22090871

There's Eggplant

>> No.22091006

It wasn't long 'til the maiden lasses found themselves submerged within the murky depths of the swamp, their eyes fixated on the promise of the lubricious libations that lay ahead. Forsooth, a cackling crone had divulged to them the secrets of a certain breed of elusive leech whose venom contained the power to rouse the sensual spirits of females who bore its marks upon them. And thus, driven by their own wanton desires and the frenetic thrumming within their loins, the sisterhood did set off towards the heart of the fetid bog, intent upon harnessing the mysterious potency of these amorphous beasts.

Amidst the verdant vegetation and the oppressively humid air, the search proved arduous, yet they pressed on, buoyed by the prospect of attaining some measure of carnal liberation. At length, they discovered a brood of massive, jet-black leeches, writhing within the shallows. Eager hands reached forth to capture the suckers, each girl mindful of preserving her prize by means of spiced cloves and soft cloth.

As they made the journey back to civilization, there arose amongst them a strange eagerness, a palpable hunger that belied their innocent faces. When they arrived at their sanctuary, the maidens cleansed the wriggling behemoths and nursed them tenderly, whispering words of encouragement and promises of gratification. Soon, all was in readiness, for each girl had affixed a tampon within her person, and the hour drew nigh when the momentous deed should transpire.

One by one, the sirens inserted the leeches into their feminine folds, their hearts fluttering with apprehension. Their virgin flesh convulsed with a sudden burst of pain, as though pierced by the barbed tongue of Cupid himself. Yet, this agony soon transmuted into rapturous bliss beyond compare. Cascading waves of orgasm buffeted the women's frames, leaving them quivering and spent. They became lost in an ocean of ecstasy, their very cores suffused with a celestial warmth.
And then, as swiftly as it began, it ended, and they drifted back to earth, clutching at their aching bosoms like shipwrecked sailors grasping at life preservers.

Thus, the circle closed, the sisters emerged from their private chambers, bearing witness to the changes wrought by the wondrous union between maiden and parasite. Each maiden marveled at the visceral transformations in progress throughout their respective bodies - a telltale signifier of the imminent blossoming that awaited them. Their anticipatory whispers stirred the air with hints of forbidden knowledge and a secret only shared among kindred souls.

Months passed, and as autumn approached, the maidens' bellies swelled with mystery, signaling the arrival of newborn progeny spawned through the arcane coupling, destined to perpetuate the cycle of salacious fulfillment for generations henceforth.

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Yet the secrecy of such hallowed bonds exacted a heavy toll on even those who cherished them, binding them eternal in a delicate balance wherein shame struggled valiantly against desire. In isolation, each maiden confided in the otherworldly wisdom of ancient tomes and dusty scrolls, seeking solace amidst esoteric knowledge preserved by those who preceded them along this path.

And so, the sisterhood persevered, bound not only by love, but also by the hidden truths they guarded, lest the world beyond should comprehend the unparalleled joys bestowed upon them by the mysteries of the leech. Herein lies a tale of erotic exploration, where the boundaries separating taboo and acceptance tremble under the weight of innate human yearnings, urging us to embrace our wildest impulses without fear or judgments borne of societal constraint.

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22090752 No.22090752 [Reply] [Original]

Are there any books that solely consist of describing objects and the emotional impact they have on you? A sort of written still life? For example, a book that describes the emotions born by the observation of different kinds of lightbulbs. I mean, things like brightness, dimness, unique markings on the electrical foot contact, the way in which the support and contact wires are positioned, how many curlicues are in the Tungsten filament etc. The interaction of all these elements can under careful observation effect divergent intellectual and emotional reactions (and so far we've only discussed incandescent bulbs). The anatomy of fluorescent tubes emits a different intellectual and emotional response when you consider the argon and mercury vapor trapped inside the tube beating ceaselessly against the phosphor coating and the electrodes staring at each other like two battalions watching a glistening battle unfold before them. The anatomy of LED bulbs never had any impact on me, strangely enough.

>> No.22090809

In my case, the pictorial thought matrices that mend themselves together and eventually crystallize into emotions are most palpable when I consider the natural processes, viz. the stark juxtaposition of mercury and argon imprisoned by phosphor as the stoic electrodes, arms opposing, look on - I almost get a little choked up thinking about it.

>> No.22090920

Are you talking about decadentism? Read À rebours.

>> No.22090972

Is it any good in translation? My French is barely enough for Le Petit Prince.

>> No.22091052

Yes. It's fine in translation as the prose is very straightforward and unambiguous. I would also recommend another French novel: Topology of a Phantom City by Robbe-Grillet. It is much more challenging and abstract.

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22090749 No.22090749 [Reply] [Original]

>go to bookstore
>get copy of Lolita
>bring it to register
>oh Lolita she says thumbs through it
>uh yeah
>so then…are you a pedophile?
>what? No, not at all
>feel face flushing and about to go on rant about how stupid it is to assume a novel about something makes the reader that
>not at all? She says
>she smiles
>that’s too bad, must break a lot of little girl’s hearts
>brain doesn’t process what she means until an hour later so I just say uh
>especially the naughty ones
>just say something I can’t remember and leave abruptly and awkwardly without buying or taking the book

>> No.22090995

okay Mr. Humbert

>> No.22091000

How is she so autistic yet uninhibited?

>> No.22091001

>go to bookstore
>take a giant watery diarrhea shit on the floor
>steal a dictionary
>run out

it happened, trust me

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>be me
damn, son. I just make shit up too, but at least I don't try to project some intense longing for unmet desires. I find it hard as fuck to want a damn thing. I don't want anything man. I just look at the wall. Fuck. Even making these words seems farcical and pointless, absolutely without purpose, and to even imagine any more productive use of my time is completely unfathomable.

To quote myself loosely "It's like trying to build a sculpture with a massive puddle of diarrhea. You accomplish nothing and end up covered in shit." I don't know man. It's just so fucking hard to believe in a god damn thing. I don't know how these billionaires continue living, how they continue wanting any of that shit.

Looking out at everything that exists, nothing appeals to me, nothing seems desirable, nothing seems worth any sort of effort to attain it. I'm just continuing to work for bread, largely out of politeness, not because I actually care or want to accomplish anything, but just because I feel like it's impolite to not work, so I work. It doesn't seem like an option or a choice, even when I have no genuine interest in continuing my life, just because being impolite or unobliging to other people, due to the strong nature of my upbringing, my meek and weakwilled personality, I'm too obliging to stop living. I don't know why.

At times I would write things, but whatever intention of actually accomplishing anything has long since left me. Any coherent intent, after witnessing the endless cycle of input->output of my writing and accomplishing nothing, all of my delusions of effecting any sort of change upon this planet have completely abandoned me.

It's like sitting here without hands, for whatever my hands are capable of, from my perspective, none of the things I am capable of accomplishing are in anyway meaningful or worth the effort or productivity. The economy of productivity, given the completely non-existent realm of results of your efforts, it just seems like a completely foolish pursuit.

I spend my days making retarded shitposts and trying to upset people for entertainment, like a homeless man covered in his own shit that somehow has the gall to mock and belittle you for continuing to care and take anything seriously. That's about the only apparently reasonable and sensible effect I can produce right now.

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22090744 No.22090744 [Reply] [Original]

I just finished book two and frankly when it get to listing the armies I don’t believe I understand a word, am I an idiot? Does anybody have any advice?

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Well, firstly, it's the feminine urge to be "different" and special so that Daddy loves them, even though they're the most boring cunts imaginable, which ties in with my second point: they are alienated by the manly virtue, genuinely moving pathos and sheer vitality that radiates from the work. And that if they're able to penetrate a decent translation.

>> No.22091048

Keats is the first person I think of in regards to masculinity or manly virtues

>> No.22091087

the people who say the illiad is their favorite will also argue with you that achilles isnt gay and larp as christian while ignoring inconvenient anti christian stuff in the illiad

>> No.22091090

All good poetry is manly. Even if a woman wrote it.

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22090739 No.22090739 [Reply] [Original]

why is ' ' reading books ' ' such a hot phrase for women to think about ?

>> No.22090753

it's not

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women love brc and everytime I say ' ' read a book ' 'on this site women are reminded of my brc which makes them horny . you have real cuckhold psychee from reading books .

>> No.22091037

It isn't

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22090736 No.22090736 [Reply] [Original]

What are some books about Christian rituals/traditions? I want to learn more about things like church etiquette etc. Is there some sort of encyclopedia about this stuff?

>> No.22090870

The Golden Legend
>church etiquette etc
The Psalters
>some sort of encyclopedia about this stuff
The Catechism of the Catholic Church

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