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4919410 No.4919410 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

This is the single shittiest fucking argument I have ever heard for any retro game ever. I see idiots who've never picked up a decent game in their live use this line to try and invalidate just about every good retro game, from Mega Man 2, to Super Mario RPG, to Ocarina of Time.

If you use this argument, I automatically assume that you only care about graphics and should be banned from /vr/ since it's obvious that you've never played a retro game all the way through.

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>> No.4919440

>>4919437

>you're

Underage nigger.

>> No.4919442

>>4919437
Why are you even posting here?
>>>/v/

>> No.4919445

>>4919440
>I'll insult his grammar! Now I'm right! Now everyone will know that I successfully proved him wrong and my shitty hobby is legit!

>> No.4919446

>>4919437
what are you even doing here you social media addicted monkey, screeching about boomers and people older than you talking about the games of their youth?

>> No.4919449

>>4919437
I know in all likelihood you're probably 32 years old yourself, so I applaud this quality shitposting effort.



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4919313 No.4919313 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

I'm having trouble getting a decent performance while using dgVoodoo 2. It works pretty well running Crimson Skies, but Shogo has an utter garbage framerate.
What settings should I mess with to get a proper performance? Are there alternatives to dgVoodoo 2 I should try?

>> No.4919345

Are you on a laptop with no dedicated GPU?

>> No.4919347

> Are there alternatives to dgVoodoo 2 I should try?
nGlide

>> No.4919359

>>4919345
I use my GeForce 840M by default and I've run them selecting the 840M using thee right click menu to make sure.
>>4919347
I'll look that up in a minute. How does it compare, generally speaking?

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4919361

if you're not running the GOG version, at least use their compatibility settings

you can make and install these fixes with Microsoft Application Compatibility Toolkit

>> No.4919367

>>4919361
I'm trying to run the GOG version, which just hung on a soundless (I applied the dslite>dsound fix later) black screen, hence why I'm trying dgVoodoo.



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4919267 No.4919267 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

This Perfect Dark speedrun has never been beaten, but the problem is that nobody can prove or disprove its veracity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=26&v=hoDBItqvH6k

>Recorded on PAL equipment using an NTSC N64, causing washed out muddy image with heavy shaking.
>The original audio replaced by J-Pop.

Yet it's a plausible speedrun. Just an insanely lucky one where everything came together just right, but one that wouldn't be accepted nowdays due to poor image quality and non-authentic audio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJMQDY8Ci90

>> No.4919349

Why do people put so much time and effort into briefly being king of the tiniest molehill?

>> No.4919356

>>4919349
This. I speedrun some games for my own enjoyment yeah, but I'm not about to spend thousands of hours playing the same game over and over and over and over just so I can feel superior to some nerds who live at home.

Thats why I come here. :^)

>> No.4919362

>>4919356
Some of them have their shit together. At least a couple thousand are able to attend conventions while also wanting to.



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4919209 No.4919209 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

Why do game remasters completely ruin the feel/atmosphere of the originals?

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>> No.4919236

Why did you post 21 pictures that are all ugly?

>> No.4919343

>>4919236
This. Are some of those supposed to be good ?

>> No.4919371
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4919371

Sometimes change is for the best.

>> No.4919373

>>4919371
Middle is best.

>> No.4919408

>>4919371
Rena is best in the middle



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4919170 No.4919170 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

Anyway, drive.

>> No.4919350

das sum gud kwalty



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4919139 No.4919139 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

Could FF7 be ported to the N64?
Maybe if they apply some magic like with the RE2 port?

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>> No.4919275

>>4919261
>implying the N64 could provide real time rendered backgrounds even fucking close to the pre-rendered scenes of FF7
Holy shit you dumb cunt.

>> No.4919280

Would've been possible using the RE2 technique and a 512 Mbit cart, with maybe one or two cut FMVs if needed, but there's no way anybody had the understanding of the console needed to pull it off in 1997. It coming out years later would've been a waste of time.

>> No.4919282

>>4919275
FF7's prerendered backgrounds look like dogshit, though.

>> No.4919284

>>4919275
Realtime > Prerendered. It's the reason Dino Crisis holds up better than Resident Evil.

>> No.4919290

Final Fantasy VII on the N64 would be a completely different game. Most of that game's design decisions were based around the limitations of PS1 hardware. You would have gotten a fully 3D game instead. N64 and PS1 games tended to have extremely different decision choices based on hardware strengths/limitations.



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4919118 No.4919118 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

Should I be playing this on the Game Gear or the Master System?

>> No.4919120

>>4919118
No. ;)

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4919126

>>4919118
You shouldn't be playing it period. Go play Triple Trouble or the 1st game.
Jokes aside, either one can work. The only differences aside from the usual (screen size and graphics) is slight music alterations and a few very minor level design differences during the boss stages.

>> No.4919149

>>4919118
GG has more colors and better music

>> No.4919152

1, 2, and Chaos on SMS, Triple Trouble on Game Gear

>> No.4919168

Has anyone tried the Master System Triple Trouble fan port?



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4918956 No.4918956 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

I usually see a lot of times people asking which of these two is better for some retro gaming on the go.
Instead of the usual wars, let's see objectively what each portable does and does not.

PSP 3000:
>Besides playing its obvious exclusives
>Best PSX portable emulation
>Average to subpar SNES emulation
>Average to playable Wonderswan color PC Engine
>Perfect GB, GBC, Game Gear, GBA, CPS1, CPS2 and Neo Geo.

Does not/not worth trying/Cons:
>N64 and DS.
>By this day and age the batteries are lasting less and less
>PSP Go is uncomfortable if you have normal-sized hands.


New 2DS XL:

>Besides it's obvious exclusives
>DS but not retro
>Perfect GB, GBC, GBA, Game Gear, Genesis, SNES. PC Engine, possible Wonderswan.
>Injects
>Can create icons for specific games for the menu so they can look nice
>New XL models have two extra buttons which some emulators take into account
>Screen is nice
>Comfy
>New 2DS XL has a nice black variant and aesthetics

Doesn't run/don't bother/cons:
>PSX (not even playable)
>N64
>"Harder" to hack compared to the PSP

Please feel free to add or correct, everything is based on my own personal experience with both.
I've decided each covers different needs and if you have both, you don't need to defend one over another.
If you HAVE to pick one, this may be the thread for you.

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>> No.4919004

>>4919001
VITA hasn't gone anywhere with emulation. Outside of emulating other consoles anyway.

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4919054

>>4919001
You can get these for super cheap and basically combine two normal SDs for a PSP.

I think the Vita is the one with propietary hardware which just complicates things for arbitrary reasons.

>> No.4919113

>>4918956
There's already more worthhile native games on those than you have time for so you should play those. Neither of these devices have enough power to emulate 16-bit very well. The best portable retro emulation is on a phone/tablet with gamepad and power bank.

>> No.4919123

>>4919001
2000 screen had a lot of ghosting.

>> No.4919132

>>4919054
the vita also has microSD adapters but for the game card slot (and one that replaces the 3G modem if you're freaky) and they require a plugin that loads when the CFW loads.



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4918951 No.4918951 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

>Final Fantasy VII - 1997
>Bushido Blade - 1997
>Final Fantasy Tactics - 1997
>SaGa Frontier - 1997
>Front Mission 2 - 1997
>Einhänder - 1997

>Xenogears - 1998
>Bushido Blade 2 - 1998
>Parasite Eve - 1998
>Brave Fencer Musashi - 1998
>Ehrgeiz - 1998
>Chocobo's Dungeon 2 - 1998

>Final Fantasy VIII - 1999
>SaGa Frontier 2 - 1999
>Legend of Mana - 1999
>Front Mission 3 - 1999
>Threads of Fate - 1999
>Chrono Cross - 1999
>Parasite Eve II - 1999

>Vagrant Story - 2000
>Final Fantasy IX - 2000

If we cut modern game budgets and dev teams in half across the board, do you think games would go back to being as good as they used to?

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>> No.4919016

>>4918951
A good chunk of those games were massively high-budget for the time, with large dev teams. FF7, for example, spent around US$214 million (adjusted for inflation) between development and a massive marketing spend in the US alone, and Parasite Eve 2's development team was IIRC split between Japan and LA for reasons that probably made sense at the time.

>> No.4919018

>>4919016
Japanese developers were obsessed with traveling for authentic atmosphere in their games. Parasite Eve, in particular, was priding itself on being "American".

>> No.4919020

>>4919016
And yet they still came out with 5-6 games a year spanning a multitude of IP's. Compare that today, where even including all of the third party devs they plublish for they only release 2-3 games per year, and most of those fall into the same three IP's; Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest or Kingdom Hearts

>> No.4919384

>>4918953
>take for example Kojima; he wanted to make a game, but no one would listen to him, so he ended up doing a majority of it himself on paper first.

Since when has Kojima ever wanted to make games? The guy has been making pseudo movies pretending to be games for years.
>>4918951
>If we cut modern game budgets and dev teams in half across the board, do you think games would go back to being as good as they used to?

Now as for your post, this still wouldn't fix games. Modern technology pretty much requires large teams for that AAA development. Small teams would need to take way to long on one game just to finally ship it. In short, gaming technology got too advanced and I would also say that the thinking/desire from developers to even truly make great games like in the past isn't there either. A lot of them might think they want to make great games but their thinking is all fucked up in the first place. Think of all of these shitty social justice western developers. You think these people don't want to make what they think is good games? That is their thinking. They just also think making good games is shoving in their shitty ideology as well. So the thinking itself is fucked. If you want good games again like the past you're going to have to have the industry rolled back to lesser technologies and to a point where games weren't as popular. This is impossible.

>> No.4919404

This Square bootlicking is getting out of hand. The company isn't great for people not into JRPGs (yes, they exist here), and even some JRPG fans find a lot of their games too basic in terms of gameplay.



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4918819 No.4918819 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

Be honest, did she really help you to get better at typing?

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>> No.4919328

>no r34 of her and Carmen Sandiego

What's even the point of the internet

>> No.4919334

>>4918819
>mavis beacon never existed and was a character created for marketing purposes
why the fuck

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4919375

Based Spooky taught me what I needed to know and I helped him chase those fucking normies out of his house

>> No.4919389

>>4918819
>Mavis Beacon will never be in Smash Bros

kill me

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4919392

>>4918819

No I was playing something else. My mom who's a secretary was really psychotically good at this game.



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4918785 No.4918785 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

I finally got my Gamecube modded with a Xeno chip and finally ill be able to use my Gameboy player.

Now i only need a flashcart that works with it, anyone knows what clone cart pic related is?

>> No.4919079

>>4918785
ffs no one asked for your life story dude just get to the f*cking point next time you post...

>> No.4919296

>not getting a proper ezflash omega and elcheaposd 2.0
how cheap can one person be?

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4919297

Looks like a Supercard SD Mini to me

>> No.4919320

that's a supercard sd mini, it's shit. the ram in the cart is super slow and you get more slowdown in games. bare minimum you want an ezflash omega.



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4918719 No.4918719 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

Marvel vs Capcom thread.

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>> No.4919010 [DELETED] 

>>4919006
ehh mvc3 is pretty awesome. you just need to git gud
maybe because I got it for free

>> No.4919015 [DELETED] 

>>4919006
Wait... Vanilla or Ultimate? If vanilla, you have the wrong one. Everyone agrees it's garbage. Now that I think about it, SF5 pulled the same shit with a terrible vanilla game and then a decent update years later.

>> No.4919017 [DELETED] 

>>4919006
>>4919015
this guy is right, did you try vanilla or ultimate?
the alternate costumes and added characters with all the dlc really make it awesome.
playing as ben riley or megaman is great

>> No.4919034 [DELETED] 

>>4919017
>>4919015
>>4919010
I played vanilla. I got buttmad that Venom wasn't in it, that Jill was he retarded RE5 version, and that Nemesis was so slow. Idk maybe I should've tried it out more, but it just didn't click for me like 1 and 2 did.
Or maybe I'm getting old.

>> No.4919036 [DELETED] 

>>4919034
fuck I mean Ultimate. It's late and I'm tired.



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4918712 No.4918712 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

Why was the Sega Genesis so lacking in the JRPG department?

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>> No.4919190

>>4918712
reminder that the genesis was the poor kids console

>> No.4919213

>>4919181
>How retarded can you be? Many JRPGs had 1st person dungeon exploration, especially computer ones. Do you consider Shin Megami Tensei not to be a JRPG either?

90% of Shining in the Darkness takes place in dungeons. Dungeon crawlers were pretty big in Japan back then, and I'm pretty sure that was the goal of Shining in the Darkness. Even the title of the game implies that it's a dungeon crawler.

I agree that a lot of JRPG's have first person moments in them. The original Phantasy Star on the Sega Master System has first person dungeons, but it is not a dungeon crawler.

>> No.4919215

>>4919190
reminder you were a poorcuck with a shitty childhood if you didn't own a snes, genesis, turbografx, neogeo, 3do, jaguar and at least 50 games for each system

>> No.4919251

>>4918712
Coz it had really solid action rpgs instead, which are more fun to play in 2018 because they don't have dated grinding and aren't overloaded with terrible sub shounen anime tier writing.

>> No.4919342

>>4918896
>I had to delete my Genesis emu
Why would you do this? A single photo on my phone takes up more disk space than a Genesis emulator.



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4918698 No.4918698 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>4912767

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1503/77/1503778360511.png
Doom Downloads:
+ IWADs and more (>3 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
+ PortaDOOM: https://spideroak.com/browse/share/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases/
Quake: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1514/09/1514094816594.png
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Duke: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1403/19/1403195896088.jpg
Marathon: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1528/27/1528276019025.png
Thief: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1456/09/1456095399293.jpg

Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q

Doom RPG series
https://doomrpg.weebly.com/

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

BUILD ENGINE LAUNCHERS
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
http://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

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4919370

SPEAKING OF SATURDAY. IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN. LET'S SEE THEM SPRITES, THOSE MAPS, AND THOSE WEAPONS.

EXCEPT FOR THAT GUY WHO POSTED THE CACODEMON, HE ALREADY DID THE THING.
I'm sorry for forgetting to post this, I keep spacing it out before going to bed

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>>4919370
FUCK! I haven't worked on anything in a while, I realized I need to finish a monster sprite!

See you in a few hours.

>> No.4919403

>>4919229
manually limit your FPS to either your refresh rate or one below that, that should solve most of it.

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4919439

I'm trying to use reshade to apply a 3dfx shader with yamagi quake 2 but it's not working.

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>>4919439
hm apparently it doesn't like opengl 3.2. I had to use opengl 1.4 instead.



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4918631 No.4918631 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

You did beat him... right /vr/? I hope you're at least good at RPGs if nothing else.

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>> No.4918727

>>4918663
just learn to dodge properly man

>> No.4918739

>>4918631
>I hope you're at least good at RPGs if nothing else.

How can you be not good at RPGs? It's just a test of patience. If you can't handle a boss you just fight mooks until you're stronger. Especially in Mario RPG where full health resurrection items are two cents.

>> No.4918740

I got stuck on the purple guy in the mines and gave up on the game. Should I pick it up again? I found it to be kind of a shitty game.

>> No.4918807

>>4918669
>>4918739

Honestly. Even if you can't defend a single enemy attack, SMRPG has the most fucking overpowered revive item in any game ever, to the point where it makes more sense to let your characters die and use a dirt cheap Pick Me Up than it does to carry any healing item other than maybe Kerokerocolas. But if that's not enough, you have a party member that can full-heal the party or full-revive anyone at will.

>> No.4918810

>>4918807
Bothers me to no end that they didn't call it Croak-a-cola in the US. Or maybe that's too close to lawsuit territory.



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4918628 No.4918628 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

If anyone has, or knows of Gokinjo Boukentai scans, I would really appreciate if you could drop them here. I'm working of translating this game with a few people and would loce to have the guides. It be great and we'd really appreciate it



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4918531 No.4918531 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

You did kill him, right, /vr/? R-right?

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>> No.4918775

"Vanquishing thee will neither return Crono nor Cyrus."

>> No.4918784 [DELETED] 

>>4918763
frogposters are trash

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>>4918531

>I always kept him as a kid save for that one time too get the frog ending

Didn't his actions kill a bunch of people? Ass an adult I must say, he should be put down. Not moralfagging just don't want a screwup like that hanging around - that goes for pretty much all quickly slapped together jrpg "redemption stories". Pahn and Vice should get the noose too. Even Seifer.

They had better be 100% essential and on board with fixing shit in order to live, IMO. And this rarely happens. They're usually a quirky bonus character with "mixed feelings" etc. They should be killed. Traitors and schemers and fuck-ups. All of them.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/HeelFaceTurn/VideoGames

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>>4918763

>> No.4919218

>>4919202
based lunch



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4918486 No.4918486 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

What's the best way to play Lunar 1&2?

Also Lunar Thread

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>> No.4918546

>>4918539
>>4918543
>Muh undub

Goddamn millennial faggs

>> No.4918585

>>4918486
Officially? The ps1 versions. With hacks, the already recommended patches for the sega cd versions. An argument can be made for the ps1 version of lunar 2 anyway, but 1 on cd is by far the best version of it.

>> No.4918609

>>4918486
Lunar I on PSP and Lunar II on PS1

>> No.4918615

>>4918539
>grimdark pseudo intellectual BS
way better than the cheesy overwrought waifufest that is the lunar series

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4918995

>>4918615

You’re just mad you didn’t find all the bromides



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4918413 No.4918413 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

Is this any good?

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>> No.4918612

>>4918413
Looks like the d-pad positioning could be uncomfortable if used often.

>> No.4918614

>>4918612
There's only like 4 games that use it anyway so that's pretty much a non-issue.

>> No.4918617

>>4918413
Get a Hyperkin Duke. It has six face buttons and a second analog stick.

>> No.4918704

>>4918614
All the ps1 ports use it too

>> No.4918741

its pretty good



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>Survival Horror
Silent Hill

>Survival Post-Action
Resident Evil

>Animalvival Action
Dino Crisis

Can we agree on these?

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>> No.4919232

>>4918404
Resident Evil is my favorite metroidvania

>> No.4919254

>>4919232
you mean metroidvival?

>> No.4919269

>>4918404
>dino crisis
>animalvival
>not dinovival
fucking genrelets

>> No.4919272

>>4918404

all are action games with monsters

>> No.4919378

>>4918404
Why are music genre naming conventions so stupid?



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