/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>trackholo.live

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

(JST)Yesterday moggings

>and now ill show you how to get 30k doing absolutely nothing

numbers rising...

kuzuha go to bed wtf

>>7591163
why?
It's 7AM, let him start his day.

>>7591163
One of the things I hate the most about comments on long duration streamers (like Choco)

>CHOCO, GO TO BED! YOU ARE THERE TOO LONG
It's fucking 4PM in Japan, nigger! Just because it is 3AM In your shithole it doesn't mean the stream has to go to sleep.

(Not talking about (you) btw, but about the chat of some streamers like Choco or Korone or Watame)

>>7591234
Oh I don't actually want him to stop i'm just surprised he's still going.

>>7591258
As I said, I'm not taking about (you), but about the chat.

>>7591364
people do it to Korone as well, it's dumb.

I find it amusing that anon's go to reference for a endurance streamer is Choco of all streamers
But I should digress

>>7591388
Mine is Chihiro for vtubers at least, girl regularly streams 70-90 hrs a week. Kanae is the only one who compares with her.

>>7591388
>I find it amusing that anon's go to reference for a endurance streamer is Choco of all streamers
Only because of her 20 hours straight of APEX and the fact she's my second favorite (after Haachama, who was in a hiatus then).

If I would say who is the face of endurance for Hololive that would be Korone, easy peasy

>>7591564
same. that ~28 hour 30 kill or champion every character endurance stream she did last year with the radio show in the middle of it just makes me think of her for endurance streams.

>>7593227
I kneel

>>7593227
i didnt expect this stream to end up so legendary

>>7590975
are you calling your dick numbers?

>>7593227
Power of jpop idol

>>7593227
deserve

>>7593227
Excellent, in the hall of fame!
If they could, probably would have gone for over 12h.

,,,yet still
>61k likes

>>7593592
Tourist don't like.

>>7593678
*japanese dont like

>>7593491
In the beginning yeah, but he left 1/2 through, the rest was just Kuzuha and stylishnoob vibing

>>7593592
yamada went to sleep at some point and kuzuha channel only playing with seki-san for a bit until he finally ended the stream

>>7591234
Kuzuha said that he used to get mad at such comments but now he appreciates them because viewers are worried about his health

>>7593592
can't expect much from normalfag tourists

>>7593758
still bring a lot of views an hour. Kuzuha was at 1.4m total views around 4 hours of the stream last time I checked. its quite insane

>>7593592
>>7593678
>>7593732

Japanese people don't really like videos.


Here's a music video popular with Nico crowd but completely unknown by EoPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCmc5FvZh5s
>2.5mil Views
>50k Likes

Meanwhile here's Sparks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq9eqHDKJPE
>1.1mil views
>86k Likes

If anything Kuzuha's decently sized EoP fanbase are inflating his likes.

>>7593227
Is that the second highest ever at the end of a stream after Coco? I can't think of anything else higher

well this is some terrible retention rate

>>7594772
It's past 5am and at one point, Yamada left

>>7594683
that recent kuzuha 1mil+ baseball vod only got 14k likes
his recent 900k + AR live zatsudan 14k as well
>If anything Kuzuha's decently sized EoP fanbase are inflating his likes.
most likely, its yamada ryosuke's fans

tourists, in fact, do like.

>>7594772
The pop star left

>>7590884
Wait, where did that 25k come from? Holostats shows that she only reach 22k.

>>7590884
>donnalynn1able
What the fuck is this

>>7594820
this actual jop normies likes videos

>>7593227
For some reason, I can't find the VOD, but jeez they went to the very last minute.

>>7593426
LOL It was literally titled "One legendary night"

>>7594683
While i agree to some extent about Japanese fans, music is not that great a comparison because a lot of views are repeat viewers who can not relike.

>>7596102
this is true, the normie japanese really engage online , they use hastags on twitter alot and like videos and shit. That's why so many of the worldwide number 1 trending shit is japanese , its a cultural thing. The other month Aladdin the live acation movie was premiering on terrestrial television and so many people were tweeting about it it was the number one trending hastage in the world.

>>7596007
It's taking me to a bunch of videos with 16 views so I'm confused.

So the 20k you predicted for Crazy Taxi yesterday

>>7596007
>>7596696
From a bit of googling it looks like they were restreaming the Japan-Mexico Olympic football match

>>7596833
i went for 18k, she also tweeted and put the fram of the video only one hour earlier.
But i know most people dont like or rememebr crazy taxi and firday night is alwasy low for EN streamers

>>7596833
Could still happen, but for days now a few anons were discussing game tastes for the EN audience, and retro/kusoge/platformers always perform badly.

>>7596998
>friday night is always low for EN streamers
I always knew globalfags were fucking normalfags

>>7593227
What was the peak for the stream?

>>7597430
>>7590884

>>7597351
i remember this being known youtube data
worst times for new releases are friday nights and best times are wednesday afternoon.
Not sure if if japan is the same, i thing sundays is their weakest day

>>7594820
>>7596102
More like idol fans like videos

>>7597351
I don't know man. If Gura setup a stream were she just reviews people's rooms or did a karaoke or played a horror game or played an fotm like gartic phone or even fucking Apex she would probably get 20k on her regular timeslot.

>>7597854
Idol fans unironically is numberfags

>>7597969
>Gura
>playing Gartic Phone with viewers
>Having the balls to reach out to artists

Most live viewers
V-Tuber category

>>7597969
Gura hates numbers and consistently debuffs herself. Bad game choices, inconsistent scheduling, non-existent social media presence. It's nothing new.

>>7598163
Anon, that's because she's lazy as fuck, not because she hates numbers

>>7598110
Playboard's stats are different than >>7590884
Why? Kuzuha and Marine are lower on Playboard but Fuwa and Hayato are higher. Also, Onomachi is not on this playboard list.

>>7598163
That doesn't sound like she hates numbers. She just sounds like she's incompetent. The numbers are just the result of that.

>>7598299
Playboard misses streams and peaks all the time, we just don't have a better alternative.

>>7598299
Because playboard is shit. Also their peak for Haruka is actually higher, it's just being filtered out for some reason
https://playboard.co/en/video/j6efZwNqJxc

>>7598299
>Playboard's stats are different than…
Part of that difference is also that Playboard is only showing VTuber numbers, which is kind of the point of this thread.
Rap the only thing I actually care about.

>>7598681
he means the actual values. kuzuha 144k vs 142k

>>7598725
I know, which is why I said “also”

>>7598302
with her numbers? she is really good.
few holos and nijs jump in totally new games without kniwing them beforehand.

Today's superchats (holy FUCK Lauren)
Kson would've been between Kirara and Pekora but is excluded for using a facecam for one of her streams

Top 100 Most Viewed Vtuber/Vsinger Original Songs of the Week(30 July 2021 - 06 August 2021)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abOy1lHR2Xw

- HIMEHINA #1 again, this time with their other song "Ultra Girls", with Gura's "Reflect" at #2 and Suisei's "GHOST" at #3.

- Looks like the ad campaign for Obsydia's "Black Out" is over as they dropped 27 spots down to #30. Nijisanji's top track of the week is their "Virtual to LIVE" at #25.

- KAF's "Devour the Past" jumped up 19 spots to #5, interestingly enough.

- Top 10 breakdown: 2 HIMEHINA, 5 Hololive, 3 Kamitsubaki

>>7597351
Funny that both HoloEN and NijiJP panders to normiefags, audience are all normiefags and would rather watch clips and memes than their streams, similar hiring process (hiring content creators, utaite/singer, no streaming experience but has decent skill or talent, etc) and they are both bleeding liveviewers to HoloJP and NijiEN.

>>7599368
I wonder if it would have been more if he wasn't streaming while Apex fans were watching VCC, but it just proves that whoever was there is more of a fan of him than Apex. Holy fuck.
Will Leos top it?
Anyways... Correct me if I'm wrong but a breakdown:
Lauren: First monetization stream
Flare: 2nd anniversary countdown
HSKW: Birthday
Kuzuha: VCC with Yamada Ryosuke and Stylishnoob
Rumi: First monetization stream. Seems to be linked to some other Chinese channel but I'm too lazy to look into it
Rion: 3rd anniversary
Oma: Karaoke (She is Noripro btw)
Pekora: Got a 1/256 drop in DQ
Lamy: Twitter debut/the day she was announced, celebration
Irys: No special occasion, Subnautica stream
Hanakumo: Birthday countdown
Tomeru: Enderlilies stream that was deleted. Isn't this the girl who asked for rent money?

>>7599693
Bad bait, but NijiJP has both past streamers and content creators for every KCK there's a Sanbaka. Pretty much the same applies to HoloJP too, for every Pekora, there's a Polka. Both have large enough rosters to have a rather diverse group.

>>7599835
Lamy is pretty much Yukimins celebrating every small win. Irys streamed twice yesterday. Kusog penguin and Subnautica. People were mostly just superchatting to prolong the stream because she was going to be on break today. I think at this point 5k is her base for stupid games that has been playes for the nth time except Apex because she bad at it. Maybe if she collabed with another chuuba while playing it will it be more entertaining

>>7601539
HoloJP gen 5 must be a pretty miserable thing if their fanbase has to celebrate every little milestone like it's a win. It's like seeing beggars being happy for the couple of bucks thrown into their jar.

>>7599511
>Nijisanji's top track of the week is at #25
HOLY FUCK. See guys, this is the actual popularity of Nijisanji when they aren't being boosted by e-celebs. You can even see that by looking at Kuzuha's viewership retention on the stream. Once the big e-celeb left his viewership plummeted. The tourists were literally not there to see him at all.

>>7599368
>#5
How did she already get monetization? From song views? And wow she's already at 80k.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCswRX8mNNdn1fjRctZqzjgA

>>7599835
>Rumi: First monetization stream
*first stream

>>7599835
>Irys: No special occasion, Subnautica stream
We might have our next superchat powerhouse in IRyS. I think she could easily surpass Kiara and Mori at the very least.

Gura keeping 12k for SC reading after 20 mins. I think only Pekora gets this level of retention for SCs. It's funny because her peak at 17k was an underperformance today. Please stop playing retro games, Gura... Should've just scheduled a zatsu stream.

>>7601854
He still had 30-50k at 4am playing with Stylishnoob. You don't know jackshit about him and Niji if you're basing their popularity off of a ranking of original songs.

>>7602031
Yeah, I posted about it in the other thread but Gura's viewership retention right now is absolutely insane. I'm so used to seeing chuubas bleed viewers when they move to superchats but viewers just didn't leave when Gura moved over to them. Just listen to her talking right now in comparison to her gameplay. When she was playing the game she was uninterested and frustrated. Now she is all peppy, happy, upbeat, and is talking our ears off. Fantastic talker and better story teller. This is what people want to see from Gura.

>>7602031
>You don't know shit about Niji if you're basing their popularity off of a ranking of original songs
Oh shut the fuck up. You Nijiniggers always go on about how the Niji's are soooooo much more talented than the Holos when it comes to singing but their songs get destroyed by Holo songs in viewership. If they are so good how come nobody is watching them? I'm sure you are just going to move the goal posts again though.

>>7602031
She thinks she isn't good at holding conversations so she doesn't do zatsudan streams

>>7602101
It's kinda frustrating watching Gura play these retro games because she doesn't enjoy them either. At least when the other holoEN girls play debuff games, they're having a good time. Gura's debuffing her numbers and having a bad time. Her zoomer audience doesn't care for these games, and her older audience gets annoyed at how bad she is. Just look at her Metroid and DMC3 numbers.

>>7601854
Hololive is far more musically focused as a whole than Nijisanji. Nijisanji's original music makers aren't the top performers.

>>7602233
Oh look it's "big numbers = big talent" retard

>>7602295
God its fucking Risu all over again, lol. Singing is Risu's greatest strength yet she has no confidence in it. Talking and story telling is Gura's greatest strength and she has no confidence in it. These girls need some guidance, lol.

>>7602233
I'm actually a Holofan who only checks up on Nijis to see what they're doing when they get big numbers, you fucking retard. It doesn't take a genius to know you can't measure popularity from a ranking of original songs. The most popular Niji covers are actually neck to neck with holo covers. I don't give a fuck if you're salty about Niji's livestream numbers lately, but stop embarrassing yourself.

>>7602319
Most of the games she actually enjoy are from the ps2 era and they are a pain to get permissions from. This is probably just her browsing through the permissions list and picking whatever seems fun

>>7602101
i think is just a matter of games, she was so happy and into Niko for some reason. Lugis mansion also was really great.
easy games are her thing since she can talk and play at the same time.

>>7602649
Ya she mentioned it on stream today, but idk. Honestly, I think she interested in them, but she might sour on them quickly. I've been watching Gura since debut and she kinda needs to play games that are either easy or she's actually good at. If its something she really struggles at, both her and her audience can feel it and her numbers drop. Like those MHR streams were painful.

>>7602916
there is still charm for when she tries and fails that is why people watch her. Even those MH rise streasm with 10k live views ended with 400k .

>>7602916
The contrast between Crazy Taxi and her superchat reading (she kind of forgot about superchats and is going on tangents about monkeys, insects, and dinosaurs right now, lol) is like night and day. Its like she got injected with cocaine. Her energy level is so much higher right now.

To keep it numbers related she is actually gaining viewers during a superchat reading. That is crazy to me.

>>7602101
>in the other thread
Anon... That's a bait thread

>>7601833
Lamy's fanbase will throw money at her except when it's a collab because there is no SC reading. JP fans also celebrate everything their chuuba accomplishes eveb if it's a small thing. It's not nothing new

>>7601999
>We might have our next superchat powerhouse in IRyS
She was playing around with chat; Or more like, chat was playfully "bully" her by keeping her up as she wanted to read every SCs even though it was already late. IRyS has been doing well, but I don’t think yesterday was a good indication of her performance SC-wise since I doubt people would find it fun doing it multiple times.

>>7601833
Hes mad because his en oshi cant get more money than lamy

>>7593227
KING
I KNEEL

>>7604031
You mean e-celeb you KNEEL? Kuzuha can't put up viewership like that. Once the e-celeb left the viewership plummeted meaning people weren't there to watch Kuzuha.

>>7603859
How do you not know about the gen5 schizo yet?

>>7593227
Kuzuha got 18,000 subscribers while live he was live during those 12 hours. https://twitter.com/Kurono_Mei/status/1423782532206661634

>>7605077
Sub only mode paying dividends

>>7605077
Yeah putting chat into sub-only mode to slow it down only encouraged people to sub to chat.
>Ame doing another unarchived Karaoke to nearly 17000 people oi. Walfie fanart has been such a boon for the EN girls.

>>7605757
HoloEN always seems to get massive viewership boosts when they are doing something that doesn't involve gaming. Its almost like the EN fanbase doesn't want to watch videogames, lol.

>>7605888
The EN fanbase for Vidya streamers is primarily on Twitch, and if unless it's FOTM you probably won't get algo boosted in EN. See Gura's numbers when she played Re8, those were Pekora-level CCV which Gura doesn't usually hit.
It doesn't help that none of the girls are genuinely GOOD at the games they play, and the only one with any real gamer ved is Ina with FFXIV, but she understandably doesn't want to play it on stream (I personally think it would have been fine, but tastes aside.....).
If they didn't manage to snag someone who's generally competent at Vidya for gen2, then that would be a huge scouting oversight.

>>7606227
>The only one with any real gamer cred is Ina with FFXIV
Gura is a beast at rhythm games and they also give her some of her best viewership, imagine that, lol.

>>7605888
Its the unarchive tag, moona also gets triple of her ave. Ccv

>>7606227
I think Amelia was supposed to be the "gamer" as much as Botan was for gen 5 or how Towa was for Gen 4. The dymamic was 1 Gamer 1 Utaite 1 Famous recruit 1 Adult/Mature/artistic 1 Variety. Gen 4 had Towa for "gamer," Kanata for Utaite, Coco for famous recruit, Luna for variety and Watame for the mature which is in her case means comfy. Gen 5 had Botan for gamer, Polka for famous recruit, Lamy for mature, Nene for variety and Aloe for artistic and music. EN had Gura for famous recruit, Ame for gamer, Ina for artistic, Mori for music and Kiara is variety. Now this does not mean they can't overlap but you see how they still stick to their original roles except for Ame and Nene. Nene is more focused in music events. Aloe would have taken more opportunities than her had she stayed on. Ame just don't know how to handle toxic chat behavior without turning into toxic herself.

>>7601999
>I think she could easily surpass Kiara and Mori at the very least.
anon that would mean she could surpass all of holoEN. those two are the top earners of their gen

>>7607004
think you got Aloe and Nene mixed up

>>7606796
I'm not saying unarchive doesn't have any effect, but unarchived also means English songs and thats what the EN audience wants. Moona also sings english song much better than jp songs.

>>7606227
>It doesn't help that none of the girls are genuinely GOOD at the games they play.
Ame is the gamer, but bad at games. So she’s not really the gamer then. But Ame shows that you can be popular in Holo EN without talent.

>>7599368
Coco's monetization stream earnings record stood for a year and a half until yesterday, from before the COVID-era vtuber boom all the way to now. It's pretty crazy to see it beaten even though vtubing is a completely different world now than it was February last year

What was that music chart where Mori's song/album beat a famous rapper's again?

Do you agree that producing multiple songs will reduce average views of each song(total views increase ofc)?

>>7607793
Nope. Nene before being Nene did a lot of mainstream variety and even traditional idol variety stuff. Her knowing how to draw is just one of her talents in her portfolio but she did more since she was employed by a media company before. Aloe is the musical holo supposedly. I will not be surprised if Irys is going to be the unofficial musical holo of EN2. The lore thing makes it obvious that there is going to be only 4 people in EN2. Irys is involved in it for sure since she did the VA for the lore which ties her to EN2. I'm going to predict that they will premiere another one this weekend.

If audience doesn't leave, it still counts as watched time,right?
Does Twitch audience tend to stay in the same stream during break compare to YT?

>>7611214
Project: Hope and EN2 are two separate projects.

>Leos not even 10k now

>>7612196
good and hopefully a lesson not to call anyone 'new kuzuha' ever again <3

>>7612196
He'll probably get to 10k later. The game isn't as big of a debuff as i thought.

https://holo.poi.cat/stream/k57-mkoHM4E
This was Korone playing it during her prime.

>>7612364
It's been 40 min.

>>7612196
>>7612252
Nah I don't think so
Zelda is just a debuff game
And this is shit time slot in Japan right now

Assuming number growth stands.

IRyS catches up to Nene in 13 weeks

Astel will benefit immensely from this holo APEX team, anyone that even entertain the idea of watching Choco and Roboco playing APEX will for sure start watching him as well
>pic related
His numbers are even bigger then before.

Second time for him too, his first “growth spurt” was after the viral moment he jumped into an Ollie APEX stream and carried her hard, to champion even.

The time for (some) Holostars to perform as poorly but at least as poorly as the bottom Holos has come.

Pecor... the numbers...

>>7612683
probably because Subaru has started streaming the original ff7 too in the same time slot.

>>7612683
Bad game, bad gameplay.

>>7612683
Is there anything else on for nips to do today? That 19k is the most live viewed right now in Japan according to playboard, which is really low.

Nips watching TV?

So, I've seen Jun, Shaka and Stylishnoob played before on twitch. iirc Jun had ~65k, Stylish ~35k and Shaka ~25k. Granted that it was PUBG, but it was nowhere as high as Kuzuha's collab last night. Kuzuha could at most get ~40k on an apex stream after the hikakin buff and Jun is the most popular one out of the bunch. If let's say Kuzuha replaced Jun and the game was apex, I'd say his numbers would be around ~90k with 2 top twitch streamers but in the end, the numbers went as far as 140k with stylish and the idol. Was the idol's presence much bigger than both of the streamer? Also, is it possible that AnyKara paid for connections or paid for the idol's time to play with Kuzuha so that he could snag his female fans into his stream? The idol doesn't seem to have his own stream up last night from the stream's description. The fans could only view the other two streams.

>>7593227
Might have taken some time for youtube to compile total views, but this VOD is at 3.2 mil now. It's double of Kuzuha's previous most viewed VOD.

On a separate note, call it youtube fucking HoloEN's CCVs or Gura fans watching VODs quickly after the stream ends, but these numbers just look weird. It's interesting that Gura's VODs have more views despite much lower peaks and being shorter. Usually it takes a few days for Gura's VOD views to start ramping up, but these VODs are fresh.

For context, Gura's 2 streams peaked at 16k and 17k respectively and were shorter than Pekora's DQ5 (22k peak) and Minecraft stream (29k peak) by 30 mins to an hour. The weak hero RPG Pekora stream is 30 mins shorter than Gura's stream, but much higher peak (28k peak).

Numbers:
Gura crazy taxi: https://holo.poi.cat/stream/_7b01SjiiBE
Gura niko: https://holo.poi.cat/stream/IFK-GNj8Fts
Pekora DQ5: https://holo.poi.cat/stream/1tGGehCjMAc
Pekora MC: https://holo.poi.cat/stream/9gXB0-dsn1c
Pekora weak hero RPG: https://holo.poi.cat/stream/fLmm6Komv2U

>>7612853
The tournament had nothing to do with Anycolor.
https://twitter.com/room_vault/status/1422889118715899906
>was the idol's presence much bigger than both of the streamer
Yes you retard.
There were other celebrities in the tournament too.

>>7612853
VCC usually has celebs paired with streamers/vtubers
Also it looks like the idol actually plays apex pretty well
https://twitter.com/close_kanato/status/1423605228050415622?s=20

>>7612853
LMAO this post started well with numbers and then turned into pathetic conspiracy cope.

> Was the idol's presence much bigger than both of the streamer?
Yes, Hey Say Jump did a livestream at the sametime as Coco's last bday and had 350k live viewers.

>Also, is it possible that AnyKara paid for connections or paid for the idol's time to play with Kuzuha so that he could snag his female fans into his stream?
From a holofan, this is just fucking pathetic. Why do anons always jump to accusing Nijis for viewbotting or buying connections when there's literally no evidence of it?

>>7612853
yamada ryosuke is a mainstream boyband singer in japan

>>7612816
A lot of salrymen work on Saturdays, not full days but this is still a bad window for maximizing the Japanese audience.

Not saying there aren't other things causing lower overall viewers.

>>7612965
Every single Nijisanji number is artificial.
3D debut viewers? Bots being hosted in an underground server.
Superchats? Riku's 7 billion accounts siphoning money back and forth into everyone's streams.
Chatters? Unpaid slaves toiling away in Anycolor's basement.

>>7612965
>Hey Say Jump did a livestream at the sametime as Coco's last bday and had 350k live viewers.
That’s impressive, puts in perspective the huge audience out there, untapped for vtubers

>>7612893
>The tournament had nothing to do with Anycolor
I didn't say the tourney had anything with Anycolor. All I'm saying if Anycolor had anything to do with the Idol's involvement in the team placement or playing with Kuzuha specifically. Looking from that twitter link, there's literally other niji livers/famous people that he could've played with or other Apex streamers. But somehow, he landed with a male idol of all things? Not saying that it wasn't good, but it's too much of a coincidence.

>>7612965
>buying connections
Anon, in the entertainment industry, you could literally buy a person's time to boost yourself up and you wouldn't know. Do you think famous bands would come to a TV interview willingly? I'm just saying if there's a possibility even if it is low.

>Gen 5 talking about their impressions of HoloEN
They didn’t talk about it but I can o oh imagine when they saw the numbers pouring in.

>>7613043
idol scene is big anon. heres nogizaka46 big female Japanese idol group.

>>7613069
Because that's how VCC has always worked. Vtubers playing with celebs. Keep making fanfiction though. It certainly doesn't look pathetic.

>>7613069
>I'm just saying if there's a possibility even if it is low.
This is the numbers thread, not the gypsy fortune telling thread (or the rrat thread).
Post the numbers, hold the unproved and impossible to prove speculations.

>>7613043
>huge audience out there, untapped for vtubers
We're already reached the peak, it's only downhill from here, or stagnation.

>>7613043
https://playboard.co/en/video/d0jHpTkpwrU
It was a bday stream for one of the members, but ya 350k is no joke.

>>7613069
What is the point of speculating with 0 evidence? By that logic, I can speculate that Cover viewbotted Coco's graduation stream because they wanted a big unbeatable number. Do you realize how retarded that sounds?

>>7613123
Holy fuck, that’s huge, Xbox huge.

>>7613123
This makes me curious what KPOP stream numbers are.
What if Twice collabed with Hololive?

>>7613123
Hololive should collab with nogizaka46
Both are idol group

>>7613123
That's a huge number, but its hard to directly compare between platforms since AbemaTV might calculate live viewers differently than Youtube. Hell, we don't even really know how youtube counts viewers.

>>7613216
>Twice collab with Hololive
Doing what? Singing and dancing?
That will only reveal how painfully bad at performing the Hololive girls are im comparison

>>7613123
>Holy shit that beat Coco's graduation numbers
I kneel Japanese idols

>>7613216
idk about the female kpop group but heres BTS.
waiting views, watching the mv, total views at end of the premiere.

>>7613216
>This makes me curious what KPOP stream numbers are.
I mean... "On its official blog, YouTube confirmed that the YouTube premiere of “Butter” drew over 3.9 million concurrent viewers at its peak."

https://www.soompi.com/article/1470511wpp/bts-sets-new-youtube-premiere-record-with-butter-mv-release

>What if Twice collabed with Hololive?
Probably won't happen since Twice has a fanbase in China. nogizaka46 is more likely, but Holos haven't had these kinds of collabs in a long time.

>>7613273
>>7613288
>1 mil waiting
Holy numbers.

>>7613273
Vtubing sure is small compare to real people...

>>7613235
Certain members could (like Sora, AZKi abs Susie), but I don’t think there is a common point beteeen the fanbases.
What made yesterday work so well was the fact it was not Kuzuha and Stylish, the streamers, playing APEX with a JPop celebrity.
It felt like three blokes having fun. That’s refreshing for all audiences involved

>>7613216
KPop fans are even more tribalist than the worst of vtuber fans and most definitely have even less overlap than JP idols. That would be the recipe for a disaster

>>7613235
>Wanting actual idolschizos
Cover office won't be able to withstand the backlash from idol puritans who're upset that their holy object being tainted by 2D whores

>>7613307
>abs susie
And Suisei. Touch typing on the phone sucks

>>7613307
After the Apex tourney ended Yamada immediately begged everyone to play a horror game and made them download Pacify. Then the entire stream was them playing different games until Yamada had to leave then Stylishnoob and Kuzuha continued playing and chatting. Hit neaely 12 hours of a VOD up until early morning in Japan (7am?). Even if the Apexfags and Hey!Say!Jump! fans left he still carried a large amount of viewers.

>>7613300
vtubers soon can overtake these big content creators.

>>7613259
the fact that a vtuber's numbers, graduation or otherwise, is even close is the amazing thing anon.

>>7613351
Why did Dream have so many live viewers? Did he graduate too?

>>7613375
He was graduating from 7th grade

>>7613295
>>7613300
Brace yourselves, as Kuzuha keeps climbing the normie social ladder, he might get an Apex collab with a BTS member one day. Now that might have a chance at beating Coco's graduation stream numbers. Ofc Korea x Japan relations are sensitive and kpop fans aren't usually into anime, so it likely will never happen.

Unfortunately, this is a hardcap hololive imposed for themselves by going after otakus and idolfags instead of normies. Normies don't watch daily Niji streams as much as holofans, but Anycolor is in a better position to collab with real celebrities.

>>7613138
>>7613153
>>7613179
Okay, I'll admit that I'm wrong. From VC's twitter page, they previously held tourneys with vtubers and celebs playing in. Kanae and Kuzuha teamed up on June. I haven't done my JP reps, so I really don't know who those guys are or how much fame they have. It might also have been Kuzuha's luck on getting the male idol into his team too. For now, I'll just leave up the buying connections part in the air since I don't really have proof of it.

>>7612683
Proof that FF10 > FF7

>>7613386
>kpop fans aren't usually into anime
Back then sure but current year? They're crawling all over anime. Anime is becoming more and more mainstream.

>>7613353
>a vtuber's numbers, graduation or otherwise, is even close
>>7613351
>vtubers soon can overtake these big content creators.
Maybe, I can see a
>vtuber face reveal then mixes ammonia and bleach inside a tent and slowly suffocate to death gone wrong ASMR gone sexual
crossing 500k if well advertised before.

Other than that I’m not seeing many events to rank that high organically, when with a boost from an actual star yesterday ranked in n the general region of the typical big event numbers for vtubers

>>7613406
the jops considered FFX the best FF game.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/03/japan_voted_on_final_fantasys_best_games_and_characters_-_do_you_agree_with_the_ranking

>>7607628
Anon, none of the top SC earners in Hololive are the most subbed in their gen, with the one exception being JP4's Coco, because she was just too different.

>>7613424
Morbid fantasy aside if you asked this question in 2019 when 10k was blowing everyone's minds, you can see how in the future vtubing numbers can explode.

>>7613342
The views plummeted after the e-celeb left. They weren't there to watch Kuzushit and I'm tired of you people acting like he had anything to do with those numbers. It was all the e-celeb.

>>7613446
???this has litteraly nothing to do with anything i or the other anon said
maybe check the reply chain again

>>7613386
>collab with real celebrities
Keep 3DPD away from vtubers

>>7613455
>The views plummeted after the e-celeb left
Anon, Kuzuha held 30k for 10 more hours. That would be the most watched vtuber stream of any hour it remained on or, at worst, #2

>>7613342
Honestly, I think a Kuzuha x Stylishnoob collab would normally get 40-50k anyways. It was just at 4-5am in the morning that it dropped to 30k.

>>7613455
Oh you're back.

>>7613386
BTS is too big to play with streamers. You don't see real celebrities go around and play an online tourney. Heck, Apex isn't the most played game in Korea, it's LOL. The next best choice is Faker having a sudden change and play apex competitively.

>>7613386
>Anycolor is in a better position to collab with real celebrities
You could say they're hardcapped in Japan too

>>7613455
Nowhere in my post did I imply Kuzuha was holding all those numbers on his own, we know he isn't. Even at 5am it was higher than average because he's playing shitty games with Stylishnoob. If he was fucking around in Apex alone at that time he'd have far less numbers, below his average.
Stop being triggered every time he's brought up.

>>7613483
30k is a slightly good day for Kuzushit and is nothing that out of the ordinary. More proof that he had nothing to do with the inflated views. It was all the e-celeb. In fact, Kuzushit had not even half the viewers that the e-celeb normally gets so he was actually a massive debuff.

>>7613502
>You don't see real celebrities go around and play an online tourney
VCC. JP celebs, but still.

I can see this happening than collabing with real celebs for hololive.

>>7613519
This actually isn't brought up enough. Kuzushit was actually a massive debuff for the e-celeb, lol. He should just pack it in.

>>7613553
Jeez brain so rotted by cope you responded to yourself LMFAO

Don't worry, he's probably taking a break tonight after getting a 3.2 mil view VOD and 30k subs yesterday.

>>7613519
>>7613553
You could have made your samefag less obvious if you has any braincells left.

>>7613386
>Collab with 3DPD in order to get mega big numbers
This is just sad
Those numbers are not real vtuber fans

>>7613547
Gura collab with offline TV would get huge numbers

>>7613539
I meant the ones who are too big. There are some exceptions though like Ninja playing with Drake before but at the time, he was the top streamer in the world getting 200k+ on every stream. No way someone big like Drake would play with a vtuber though.

>>7613547
>DisgustedToast deleted his reply
lol

>>7613547
Pokemane's numbers are not very good right?

>>7613547
Among us collab with Gura and Sykkuno???

>>7613547
I wouldn't say Twitch or OTV streamers are real celebs, they're still e-celebs. And if we know Gura, she's too shy to even collab with JP senpais. I really doubt a non-hololive collab that isn't her mama will happen.

>>7613442
If one of the ENs started playing ff7 I will bet actual money that they'll get better views.

>>7613576
>>7613589
Explain how the e-celeb got 350k viewers but when he collabed with Kuzushit he got 144k? That is a massive debuff. This is the numbers thread so explain those numbers Nijiniggers!

>>7613633
>Normies see vtuber
Ewwww

Lets not turn this normal thread into another back and forth with an escaped mental patient.

>>7613629
Isn't OTV streamers like a closed off group of friends playing with each other like VShojo? I mean, Gura or EN could totally play with them and Mori could totally collab with Critikal to make some songs for his comic. It's only a matter of when since they aren't marketed as idols. They're mostly streamers.

>>7613629
They still have a big audience who already watch streams so you would be introducing vtubers to the kind of fans who are more likely to become your audience too.
Actual celebs fanbases are probably not the type of people to watch livestreams.
I would think an Offline TV collab would benefit Gura better than a real celeb collab.

>>7613455
Right before Ryosuke leaves there were about 62k, 10minutes after he leaves Kuzuha and stn still holds 54k.
Do your fucking reps nigger

>>7613633
>Nijiniggers!
LMFAO I know you're just a baiter because this fake seething isn't convincing.

I should correct you that Ryosuke Yamada is not a e-celeb. He is a real idol with chart topping singles and multiple lead roles in movies.

He has a wikipedia page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryosuke_Yamada

>>7613701
Big star huh? That makes it even worse that Kuzushit debuffed him so hard.

>>7613547
Gura is already well known by the otv fanbase due to Sykkuno. It could be a good chanve to grab the twitch audience too. For now, vshojo has the majority of the vtuber twitch audience.

>>7613751
too bad they best friend now and both of them are beyond hololeech's reach
what a good fucking day it is

>>7613693
>>7613696
I'm not saying it'll be bad for her, but it likely won't happen knowing Gura's personality.
But hey, this is the same girl who did Belle Delphine's comeback song for free, so who knows?

>>7613771
>>7613751
Stop fucking talking to yourself this isn't the schizo thread

>>7613771
Good thing Hololive has dedicated fans and not just casual tourists who only show up to watch e-celebs.

>>7613771
ESL-chama...
And LMAO no one even mentioned Hololive so thanks for outting yourself.

>>7613788
No one is actually replying to them so they have to talk to themselves.

>>7613477

>>7601999
>>7607628
>>7613446
???

I followed the whole conversation. The implication was that she doesn't necessarily need a large viewer base to beat Mori or Kiara whom have had time to build their fanbase. On one hand she isn't a living debuff like Kiara nor a stubborn dumass like Mori, so she can make it work if she set her mind to do it.

>one (1) schizo anon talking to himself with multiple voices and taking all sides of the “fight” trying to stir shit
Some bites but mostly that anon talking to himself

Gura Nendo sold out worldwide (now that the US shop got their shit together)
How does a pre order sells out anyway? Shouldn’t they just keep the pre order for a period of time and then produce whatever number was bought?

>>7614098
Cover tells a specific number and the company complies. If they say 1000, then they will make 1000 in the contract. If they put in unlimited orders, then there's no telling when those Gura nendos are gonna be completed since a lot of people are buying them. It's better to put it in waves or something.

>>7614098
For something that popular they cannot do endless preorders on a time limit or else they will be overwhelmed. Like anon said they re-release popular ones based on interest.

I wouldn't be worried about Niji mogging Holo if I were a Holofag. You can pick any top Holo and she'll be more well known than the whole Niji roster. Sure, top Niji's CCV and views are comparable to mid tier Holos but those are already capped out numbers, they can't grow anymore. With enough time and some support, even Holostars will be able to surpass them.

>>7614489
Niji well known name in Japan, Holo is second in Japan but is more well known globally. What else is new?

>Holo is second in Japan
lol.

Man holofags are coping more than usual, what happened?

Man nijifags are coping more than usual, what happened?

>>7614489
>they can't grow any more
>ONLY appeal to JOPs and Kuzuha mogs everyone despite that

>>7614489
holostars...

>>7614149
>>7614197
Makes sense, thanks

>>7614489
>>7614618

At this point the whole 'more popular in japan' thing is just nijicope. They MIGHT be very slightly more popular or slightly less, but they're functionally neck and neck when it comes to the public eye. Its overseas where holo btfo Niji's though.

>board is quiet
>suddenly every single Nijisanji or Hololive adjacent thread gets Holostars bait
Holy shit at least try to hide it. When is this faggot going to get rangebanned

Strong performance by Violet

>>7614987
One of the highest views for the first original song.

>>7614951
Unfortunately the meidos don't rangeban for trolling

>>7614944
Right now, at the moment, Niji's JP audience is the same size or even a bit bigger than Holo's JP and overseas audiences combined.
Add to that Niji's overseas audience's steady growth and you'll see that Holo is fucked.

Hololive and KAMITSUBAKI 's original songs can keep up with their cover songs, pretty impressive.

>>7615028
Where's that guy with the deepl tled total views image?

Speaking of Holostars and collabs outside the "bubble"
> Rikka right now playing APEX with Rin / Ishtar seiyuu (https://myanimelist.net/people/116/Kana_Ueda)) right now (and also some Otogi VTuber bloke)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRtWtTrEDEY

With very predictable numbers
>18 viewes on Otogi
>some 300 on Rikka

>>7614987
Probably 1 mil by the end of the first week, which is generally the mark for a VERY successful cover. It's insane for an original.

>>7615047
I really don't know where he is, but it's quite weird to compare completely different metrics - total views and total audience.
A single person can click 100 times through a video, giving it 100 views, but he cannot multiply 100 times and become 100 people.

>>7615028
Seems an interesting ballpark, can you provide some numbers to back what you wrote?

>>7615077
And this is the bit where you start nijicoping

>>7615077
>A single person can click 100 times through a video, giving it 100 views
I doubt that's the case tho, at least for VTubers.

KPop/JPop/western boy bands fanbase do that but VTubers pattern of viewing is view live or view the VOD once. Not only that but I doubt there is any difference between the pattern of Holos and Nijis

>>7615064
Rikka can only get viewers when he sing unfortunately. His game stream numbers are really bad and idk if there is a way to save them. Some people just aren't entertaining as game streamers.

>>7615086
Easily, but only after the person whom I replied to, provides some numbers for his:

>but they're functionally neck and neck when it comes to the public eye

Before that, you'll have to wait patiently, sorry.

>>7615028
This sounds like what you sell to investors so that they don't leave you and create their own vtuber agency... Oh wait..

>>7615105
His hollow knight playthrough got decent numbers

>>7614944
This. You'll get different answer depending on who you ask. Holofans will say Hololive is more popular, with numbers to back their claim up, while Nijifans will say Niji is more popular, but if you ask them why, they'll just tell you some weird cope.

>>7615109
>Before that, you'll have to wait patiently, sorry.
I don't need to, I consider both assertions to be bullshit and gut feeling unworthy of further discussion.

I think Holo's audience view translated clips more than Niji's , which mean Holo members' original videos(mostly JP) are relatively less viewed.

>>7615090
>And this is the bit where you start nijicoping
The moment I explained that he is not thinking rationally? Ok...

>>7615103
>I doubt that's the case tho, at least for VTubers.
If you think that subs and audience are the same, then you are grossly mistaken.

>>7615132
This is the numbers thread, can you provide some numbers?

>>7615114
I don't really care who is more popular but as far as marketing goes, only Kuzuha and Minato are getting any reach as far as relevance when it comes to who can get on their streams without any help from the koshien buff. Hololive is getting dripped in sponsorhips and partnerships.

>>7614944
Nijisanji was invited to VCC while hololive wasn't, that's enough proof that they're more popular in Japan than hololive can ever hope to be unless you're a brainless holofag.

>>7615141
>If you think that subs and audience are the same, then you are grossly mistaken.
I didn't say that. I said two things
1) I don't think "multiple views on the same VOD" is a thing for vtubing in general
2) Even if I thought it was, I don't think there would be any difference in pattern for both companies

>>7615144
No point arguing. Holobronies are still high on copium after the mogging yesterday

>>7615114
What numbers?
Holos numbers are JP + West
NIjis numbers are basically just JP
It would be stupid to conclude that if Holo's number are bigger, than they are bigger in the west.
Furthermore, Last 2-3 weeks, Niji was completely obliterating Holo in numbers

Baneki’s 3D won’t get superchat due to a bug. Fucking Susan.

https://twitter.com/youko_akabane/status/1423614245824962562?s=21

>>7615178
That'a it I'm going schizo
WHY YOUTUBE WHY

>>7615028
>Niji's JP audience is bigger than Holo's JP and overseas audiences combined.
I'm sorry anons...Nijis will never ever pull these kinds of numbers...

>>7615178
>Baneki’s 3D won’t get superchat due to a bug.
Wut? How is that even possible?

He got demonetized?

Here are some numbers.

>>7615144
It will not make sense for Hololive to be invited to play Apex. Botan already collabed with a legend. They have a whole mall filled of merch and a magazine feature with art by the Tu Love Ru illustrator

>>7615154
Hololive's fanbase are otaku who are obsessed creepos and will refresh a video multiple time to give it views, Nijisanji's fanbase are mainly normies who watch and move on. There's definitely a difference in viewing patterns.

>>7615178
>Nijicope again
LMAO

>>7615196
So again hololive collabed with mostly otaku centric stuff.

You’re right about Botan being a potential invitee but then again, the idolfag grip has her and other holomembers by the balls.

>>7615130
Wait what? These assertions are literally opposites of each other. If you consider both bullshit, then you don't have any opinion and discussion with you isn't worth any time to spend.

>>7615214
Read the tweet retard

>>7615196
>Akibahara otaku shops
>otaku magazine art
Otaku shit is not mainstream in Japan and will never be because of the negative connotations, hololive pandering to the small niche market isn't really the win you think it is

>>7615196
>with art by the Tu Love Ru illustrator
Here is a muggles question: is that any more impressive than the myriad of anime illustrators already doing stuff with Hololive including the Steins Gate illustrator?

Or I'm missing something and for some reason what I thought it was a "I can't believe that's not hentai" show (To Love Ru) is somehow more remarkable than I thought

>>7615205
Anon. No normie will watch an anime boy for 12hrs.

>>7615154
Oh, then I am sorry. I was just replying to some guy stating that overall views convert to overall audience.

>>7615239
>t. doesn't understand why Nijisanji is popular
Nijisanji aren't anime anything, they're streamers using a 2D avatar, they don't put on a fake anime persona to pander to otaku unlike hololive. That's why they're successfully in the mainstream while hololive's stuck in the creephole in Japan.

>>7615144
>Red bull collab.
>EVA collab (postponed)
>Nissin collab.
Apparently Holo's are nobodies though!

>>7615142
https://holodex.net/channel
Not all the clips from YT (mostly Taiwanese clippers)
Holo's non JP clips are far more than Niji's.
Imagine EN clips of Holo compare to Niji's

>>7615172
>Last 2-3 weeks
Oh no no no what happened to baseball buff and super newbie now?

>>7615172
>Holos numbers are JP + West
>NIjis numbers are basically just JP
Both claims have no proof to back it up. Hololive is literally everywhere in Japan and they even get more tweets for their events, Niji is like some underground group compared to them.

>>7615247
That most definitely depends on what you call audience.
The topic seems to be that compilation of numbers showing that Hololive with 50 or so talent count have more views than Nijisanji with 140+. That chart only shows one thing
>that Hololive number of VOD views is higher than Nijisanji number of VOD views

If that shows a larger audience, it depends on what you call audience
>people that watch regularly
>people that watch once in a while
>people that watch and follow
>people that watch and follow and buy

What do you (all) consider "the audience"?

>>7615109
>I can easily provide numbers to prove my unprovable statement when this other anon proves his unprovable statement
We get it, you're both just bullshitting.

>>7615132
Nice thought, but you need some numbers to prove EOPs don't watch streams at 4am PST/7am EST. Like compare how Calli/Irys's sttreams do when they stream at JP primetime vs streaming 4 hours later for NA mornings.

>>7615143
You're fucking retarded if you think Nijis aren't getting just as many sponsorships as Holos. Fuwa isn't even the 2nd most watched Niji. Kanae, Mito, Lize, and Ib are all in front of him.

>>7615144
You're fucking retarded if you're using VCC to judge popularity.

>>7615205
LOL Yes, that's why most Holo 3D lives VOD views stagnate after a week, whereas Niji events such as NJU, Fuwa's 3D debut, and Kagami's 3D debuts keep getting more VOD views even now. Prove your claim with numbers or stfu.

>>7615223
They can both be BS because neither of you can prove your statements with numbers.

>>7615235
If Niji is only composed of Kuzuha and Maimoto and the rest of the twinkies then you can make that case but the rest are pretty much otaku content. That's why you only see a rise in their numbers when they are included in buff events.

>>7615186
They will. And what's even better, without even killing one of their members, like Holo did. That's because Niji is only at the start of the Overseas road, whereas Holo is stagnating already.

>>7615186
>Hololive I kneel...

>>7615255
Let me know when hololive collabs with major baseball teams or live commentated a match, then come back lmao

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/amp/p/000000195.000030865.html

If we’re talking actual mainstream holomembers then only gura would fit that Bill

>>7615190
wtf did Ame turn off SC midstream or something?

>>7615290
Niji events continue attracting more new people to watch them even if it's not live due to the high quality of the production while hololive's otaku goon squad need to move on to refreshing other videos with the limited time they have, what's so hard to get?

>>7615256
You provided numbers for the first half of your asertion
> I think Holo's audience view translated clips more than Niji's ,

But those most definitely don't back your second part
> which mean Holo members' original videos(mostly JP) are relatively less viewed.

I personally don't think there is any way to compare things as different as "every talent of a company" and that's retarded too when both companies have members in the 5 digits of live viewers at the same time they have members on the 3 digits.

The difference between Holo and Niji is that, Kuzuha is the only one able benefit while Holo can pick from people like Gura/Marine/Pekora/Aqua/FBK.
Kanae was collabing with King Gnu vocalist and only got like 6-7k..

>>7615295
You sounds like some desperate nijiniggers...

>>7615331
King gnu is Incomparable to a legendary idol anon...

>>7615340
And you sound like a coping holobrony. Facts are facts, nijisanji's careful approach to building its liver culture is now paying off while hololive is self-destructing from forcefully acquiring fans

>>7615300
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000227.000056982.html
?

>>7615331
King Gnu is smaller and his fans really do not care about apex despite the guy being a fan of Apex pros. Kanae actually was doing worse than usual live views wise. He never broke above 10k.

>Mel picking up 6k viewers on a run of the mill Minecraft stream
I can only imagine how improved her numbers would be if SHE FUCKING STREAMED REGULARLY

She was trying to juggle roommate and Hololive activities and tanked both. Thank God she finally decided to ditch the other and will start focusing on Holo from September on (if I heard it correctly)

>>7615267
And these current pathetic numbers still completely destroy current holo's even more pathetic numbers.
Get fucked, moron.

>>7615371
>building its liver culture
>forcefully acquiring fans
Oh god, he's back. At least he ousted himself so you guys can stop biting his bait.

>>7615375
> 本放送では野球試合本編も同じ画面で、視聴可能です。
また、ニコニコプレミアム会員であれば全編無料で視聴することができます。

Yep nothing special

>>7615318
>members on the 3 digits.
That's only true for Holostars and the bottom three of ID. Not the same with Hololive JP and EN. Niji has way more underperformers

>>7615409
>Let me know when hololive collabs with major baseball teams or live commentated a match,
but this is what you said?

ITS BAIT STOP REPLYING

>>7615408
It’s true though, hololives knock off version of levagacha preforms worse.

>>7615388
All of the chatter I heard indicates as such. Man, Mel is a bad luck magnet though. Between YT yeeting ASMR and the manager fiasco, she's had a hard time.
It's so tiresome seeing the shitpost over the summer Niji buff and people acting like they have the memory span of a goldfish.

Everybody already knows about Youtube's fucky counting, but these jumps between live viewers and archive views never fail to amuse me. The countdown part is where the extra minutes in the last one come from, by the way, I took the last screenshot a second or two after the second one.

>>7615388
why the high numbers? I know minecraft is a boost game but this is really high for mel

>>7615290
Oh, look at you, poor idiot. You know the rule of 4chan:
>If you end up answering multiple posts - your opinions are wrong and you should shut the fuck up and leave.

Nijiquiz 20k and counting

https://youtu.be/Am3FrTdDsGA

>>7615371
You have no numbers whatsoever other than highlighting very specific streams where certain already popular Niji Livers. Almost 90% of Nijis are inconsequential at this point. They can all graduate and it won't hurt the people actually performing.

>>7615446
Saatana, torille!

>>7615371
>All the vtuber important records are hold by Hololive and Nijiniggers still can't face the reailty...
Most Subs: Gura
Most SCs :Coco/Rushia
Most live-views record :Coco
What nijis have.....?
Non...I feel sorry for you....

>>7615433
That's like saying Niji is dying because Hologra destroys Nijisanji Snack time. Are you retarded?

>>7615284
>What do you (all) consider "the audience"?
None of that. All options that you listed can be easily pumped up temporarily, misleading from the clear picture.
By audience I mean current amount of people INTERESTED in watching.

Anyways. Aqua is finally playing MC again. Numbers for this should be interesting. I hope someone else is playing alongside her to give her a tour

>>7615388
> decided to ditch the other
That's too bad since her roommate has arguably a better design. But it good news for Mel.

>>7615437
>Between YT yeeting ASMR and the manager fiasco, she's had a hard time.
Nah, the whole company got affected more or less in the same way back then (YT acting up and poor management).
Some just focused and worked on improving their stand, Mel tried to double dip and spilled her spaghetti way after most problems got solved

>>7615447
>why the high numbers?
She's streaming pretty much alone, with only Moona doing some Marvel shovelware game at the same time.

She also stopped giving a fuck and went back to her usual outfit, which is smart because it makes no difference on how hard Susan fucks streamers (gvien what happend to Marine and Kiara)

>>7615371
Oh no no no no no no no

>>7615526
>By audience I mean current amount of people INTERESTED in watching.
I don't get. You mean people that are INTERESTED in watching and actually watching, or you are including people that could watch but, for some reason, don't?

>>7615276
You still forgot that Hololive are JP + Overseas. It's pretty dumb to think that overseas never use twitter. To be fair, I honestly believe that most of Holo tweets/retweets are from overseas.

>>7615548
>BBC

>>7615388
>>7615437
btw what is Mel's "thing"/gimmick. it feels like lack of it makes her transparent compare to other girls.
the only time she had opotunity to shine in my opinion was wario kart collab with Ollie, Niji and indi girls

>>7615526
You are retarded. Audience only matters when money is involved. If you can't make your audience buy any shit then it is pointless. Why do you think the new nijis have voicepack right off the bat.

>>7615562
Yes, correct, but when we are talking about holo, then there also people who are not interested who are watching. And I can tell that there are majority of those.

>>7615548
>the bbc is getting into numberfagging
Have chuubas gone too far?

>>7615532
>arguably a better design
I agree to a certain extent, but generic anime nekomimi girl is a concept so overused pretty much all of Hololive have an outfit like that now.

Cute short haired vampire girl is a niche Mel could easily expand upon and make something big out of it

>>7615462
With that many Nijis, it should do well. 30k 15 mins in, so I'll guess 45k peak?

>>7615607
Because they have audience for that... duh.
If you think that I don't agree with that, you are wrong. But still, the REAL audience are these who are really INTERESTED in watching

>>7615581
Interestingly,Gura's fan arts have the most RT and Fav despite Kuzuha has the most fan arts

>>7615619
>then there also people who are not interested who are watching. And I can tell that there are majority of those.
WTF?
I won't even ask for numbers to back that up (as it would be impossible) but why the fuck would a sizable part of the viewers of ANYTHING at all to be doing so "without being interested".

>>7615581
What a fucking dipshit that don't even know how to fucking use Twitter. There's no "suspicions" You can fucking check all the nips that actually retweet shit. You can see them in replies

>>7615686
You are talking to a schizophrenic
Stop giving him attention

>>7615677
You are out of topic of this conversation, sorry.

>>7615686
Easy, he's a mindreader and could tell 15k out of the 27k that usually watch Pekora aren't actually interested.

>seanigger hours
>mokey shit flinging
The clockwork operates at maximum efficiency.

>>7615548
I cant find the article could you link it? I'm curious what the BBC says about it

>>7615706
>>7615745
I may have been the most surprising and retarded thing I ever heard in this (usually very retarded) thread.

>yeah, yeah, lots of people are watching, watching regularly but THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED

>>7615686
That's very simple. It's just like subbing to all of them or subbing without even watching a single video from them. Most holo fans just open multiple holo streams at the same time, put likes in each of them, and don't even watch them. That's "NOT INTERESTED" in my book. That's just numberfagging.

>>7615785
We can literal see this shit happening when she streams that shin Cham game you retards

>>7615775
Here you go anon, I assume it is this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9VHuPgZ6NE

>>7615237
He's drawing manga for shounen jump, having someone like that promote your stuffs is more impressive than appearing in some obscure Apex event that most people probably don't know about.
From my perspective, 'Nijisanji is mainstream in Japan' is complete bullshit. A lot of Japanese use twitter, and anything that Hololive do, small or big, will always trend on twitter, meanwhile, Niji's 'big' AR live didn't even trend on second day when it's supposed to be bigger than the first day because Kuzuha was there. I mean, I followed like 2000+ big name artists on twitter and none of them talked about Niji, while most of them always tweet about Holo's events, like birthday lives with the hashtag.

>>7615691
Looks like you are quite new to twitter. For JP tweets, most top replies will be JP. On a big tweets you'd have to scroll for a long time to get to first EN replies.

>>7615799
That doesn't even make sense.
You are implying there is a sizable part of the audience of something that is predominantly live entertainment that is not even interested in the output of the talent, they just tune in and let it play for some reason

But that they like the talent producing said output for some unrelated reason. That's dumb to an extent I can't even put in numbers, something like over 9000

>>7615831
>'Nijisanji is mainstream in Japan' is complete bullshit. A lot of Japanese use twitter, and anything that Hololive do, small or big, will always trend on twitter,

Now you’re just pulling shit out your ass holyshit

>>7615816
They labeled that guy as Froot, lol.

>>7615756
To be faaiiiirrrr, last numbers was an absolute gongshow after Kuzuha's stellar numbers. Interesting numbers = shitposting bait and drama after all.
>Aqua playing MC on stream after a very long break
Hard to say since I'm not sure what she plans on doing, but floor of 15k to as high as 30k, there aren't any heavy hitters scheduled in the same slot except for Miko, who is doing a watchalong on Twitch.

>>7615831
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>>7615853
>for some reason
The reason is quite obvious - numbers

>>7615799
>I have no evidence of this happening, but I'm just gonna pretend that it actually happens
Please don't sprout your theories in a numbers thread. If you have any proof that this is happening in any significant capacity, please show it. This is "Anycolor is buying viewbots/paying for celeb connections" level of cope.

Is Kuzuha the biggest leech in vtuber world?

>>7615923
Wut? it doesn't even make sense!
>Pekora? Miko? Nah, I don't like her at all
>well, time to tune into their streams to pump up their numbers because <reasons>

>>7615619
> And I can tell that there are majority of those.
Oh wise prophet of bullshit please spread your wisdom.

>>7615947
Calm down before someone brings up Miko or Koshien 2019

>>7615947
Yes he collab with japanese pewdiepie and a lot of celebs

>>7615923
I see, that's why every holo has the same live viewer numbers, same likes, and same subs. Holofans just sub to everyone and watch everyone at once. Do you realize how retarded you sound?

>>7615946
Looks like you are new to Vtubers. I think you should leave this board and find something more fitting for you. How about cooking or gardening?

>>7615947
Yes now leave him alone