/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

300 MINUTES OF /vr/
-Project completed!
-https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/97033-300-minutes-of-vr-speedmap-megawad/

QUMP
-Soon?
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp_ZqCZPJKk

HUMP
-Deadline reached?
-All rules found here
-https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=57649&p=1014985#p1014985

OP
-Looking to update the OP, suggestions are welcome
-Half of the soundfont links are dead in their relevant pastebin
-Include thevidya.site and The Inmost Dens somewhere?

=== NEWS ===

[9-25] DemonSphere, a longtime deathmatch player, has committed suicide
http://doomleague.org/forums/index.php/topic,914.0.html?PHPSESSID=n4dp8u9mn9d16iabjnnn5luaf3

[9-24] Newstuff 538: featuring Fanta Base by /vr/'s own Hebridean Isle
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/97126-the-newstuff-chronicles-538/

[9-22] An E2 replacement
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ypjf0kfmj5tnbl5/icantseeshitwithoutmyglasses.wad?dl=0

[9-122 Crispy Doom v4.2 released; supposed to be the last release based on SDL1
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1799088

[9-20] Evolution of the WAD E9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-NXPbHTQYo

[9-18] Sun Damage Omen, gameplay mod alpha release
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=57902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4PpeIyJ3t0

[9-17] 300 Minutes of /vr/ released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/97033-300-minutes-of-vr-speedmap-megawad/

[9-13] The Ultimate Torment & Torture: Supportive Edition; a mod friendly edit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENm-hx9aiZ4

[9-11] Doom Builder X: continuation of DB2 by anotak
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/96943-doom-builder-x-2130-map-editor-forked-from-db2/

[9-11] PortaDOOM Cacowards 2016 released
https://spideroak.com/browse/share/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases/

=== PREVIOUS ===

http://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

=== PROTIP ===

Would you like to submit any news, personal releases, or other contributions? Just reply/backlink to this post with a link, so the next OP can easily find it.

>>4287370
Is it possibly to conveniently make a game using a Doom engine and have it be a simple .exe for others to use?

Where should I start?

>>4287371
I forgot to mention that HUMP has had an alpha release. It's posted on the OP of the ZDoom Forum thread that's linked near the top of the news post.

In Doom RLA, does the Lost Soul deal melee or fire damage?

>>4287374
Yes. Use GZDoom. Use "IPK3" as the extension for your game file archive.

Asking this again in the new thread (considering that it was ignored in the old one) does anyone wan't to play some deathmatch?

nth for Brutal Doom.

>>4287429
Why is someone pushing this so hard lately?

>>4287441
The kids call it trolling, I think. There was a Doom topic on /v/ recently which reminded them /vr/ existed for another couple days.

>>4287451
also /vr/ troll janitors decided to delete any shit related to 3d retro fps lately, even if MOOT stated that games sup to 2k2 and 2004 are retro

>>4287271
>>exposed arms
I think that makes sense actually. Typical fictional power armor designs wouldn't allow a realistically proportioned person to do anything but flail his arms in a narrow cone because the armor under the armpit would severely restrict movement. The two ways to solve this without severely restricting protection in the area is A) the way F.E.A.R's REV6 (the model I'm working with) or B) a super complex system of sliding plates fastened to the chest, shoulder and upper arm that slide in place to protect the area whenever the arm is extended from the body.

To me the REV6 seems more about augmenting strength and allowing a soldier to navigate urban environments while carrying extreme firepower than for turning a man into a walking tank. Large bipedal mechs won't ever work even in theory until neural interfaces become a reality.

with the doom woman who has bad sprites

why cory whittle give her a comical booty

wait a minute how am i supposed to download immoral conduct if all the links are dead on his website

Look up retro shader for gzdoom. It does an okay approximation.

>>4287498
Whoops. Meant to reply to
>>4287296

>>4287513
is this a doom mod? or is this the chex game itself?

>>4287553
I think it's that guy who plowed through action doom 2 with the hexen weapons

Is BERSERK Doom a thing?

Why do you guys call anyone who posts Brutal Doom in this thread a troll?

It's probably one of the most popular and well-made mods ever made for the series, so a lot of people will mention it, what the fuck do you expect?

>>4287583
(you)

Tfw bored at work and you wish you were at home playing doom.

>>4287583
>It's probably one of the most popular and well-made mods ever made for the series

"It's probably one of the most popular and well-made mods AT THE COST OF THE OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS EFFORT ever made for the series"

FTFY.

>>4287583
Mainly because when we actually give the reasons for it the original poster goes on to ignore all the points and just starts throwing around insults at us all instead.
Just in case you're actually serious.

>>4287591
Why should end-users give a shit about the upset feelings of some other WAD creators?

>>4287591
>boo hoo hoo the mod uses stolen assets!!!

Whether true or not, literally has nothing to do with the quality of a mod. Basically you just told everyone in this thread that you can't objectively evaluate a mod.

I could basically steal the work of every great modder to make my own super mod and it would be 100% justified if it was an excellent combination of resources that led to a truly great wad, and I would be completely entitled to the praise I received because I was the one who had the creative insight and did the work to put things together like that.

>>4287608
On the flipside, people (not necessarily meaning you) get too precious whenever it is mentioned, and stifle all discussion with arguments that really don't mean anything of any substance to anyone.

Maybe most of the posters in these threads are those people who had their assets stolen for BD. I doubt it.

I'm starting to wonder if this is just the same guy every time. The arguments he uses are always the same.

>>4287614
>beginning
this has been going on for five years, it'll never end

Some brainlet in the last thread unironically even compared the WAD scene to literature. Millennia of works compared to a tiny little subset of map creators for one game series. And he wasn't even joking.

>>4287451
>>4287586
>>4287608

this is the same, passive aggressive jaded faggot in every thread

>>4287617
it's this exact same guy

You're telling me Total Distortion isn't a FPS like Marathon? The dude on the front cover looks like the protagonist from it though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pPQnhhUqtU

>>4287612
>I could basically steal the work
>I was the one who did the work

>>4287651

ah, after playing Normality this will help with my "old weird-ass DOS games" fix

have my poorly made KKK voxel model as thanks

>>4287493
http://thevidya.site/pub/blazkowicz/doom2/1506534894_Immoral%20Conduct.pk3/

>>4287651
Nigga looks like G-man crossed with David Bowie

>>4287668
thanks, do i get to play as the female in this mod?

>>4287591
>implying assets can be stolen
They can be plagiarized, however, which is what in a way happened and possibly happening with Brutal Doom.

>>4287587
revenants with top hats are what the world has been missing up until now

>>4287709
This needs to be a mod.
This HAS to be a mod.

One Man Doom review of 300 Minutes when?

>>4287720
hopefully not until after the update is finished!

Can a random anon get some feedback? Been working with this one for a while. I gotta work better on Aligning textures :(

https://my.mixtape.moe/cztggs.wad

>>4287742
Can't download. You able to upload somewhere else?

Try http://thevidya.site/

>>4287747
why would people upload test releases to a permanent archive?

>>4287742
ooh fun, there's something well up with that site

HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 1162769 (1.1M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: ‘cztggs.wad’

cztggs.wad 8%[=====> ] 95.59K 33.3KB/s in 2.9s

2017-09-27 19:48:59 (33.3 KB/s) - Read error at byte 97882/1162769 (Error in the pull function.). Retrying.

i got it eventually but it took wget 9 retries

mirror:
https://a.uguu.se/WMahL61Sj8rV_cztggs.wad

>>4287742
oh. it's zdoom specific. you could have said.

35fps spritified animation of the walk cycle (which will be tweaked a lot more as per /vr/ suggestions) The leg hydraulics angles fucks up on the first frame for some reason.

>>4287758

Sorry, new to actually sharing and releasing my work. I'll specify compat next time :) Been mapping for a while just never released anything

The recommended WADs image is so cringy.

>fucking
>fucking
>fucking

>>4287751
Because he's got a site.
Did he mention he has a site? Because he has one.

>>4287770
It does have good recommendations though.
It still misses some great mods and map sets, but it's a nice start.
Besides, silly, OTT macho "How To" guides are a standard thing on this site, have been for a long time.

>>4287772
well may i suggest he add a section for temporary uploads of unfinished works and feedback requests, separate from the main part for completed releases.

How would At Doom's gate or Running from Evil Sound like if played on ukulele?

>>4287751
Because that's the entire point of the website?

>>4287772
It's not my site, you ponce.

>>4287770
if the word "fucking" makes you cringe, you are a child.

>>4287767
no problem, just it bothers me to see a new contributor fall into the trap of assuming the doom community is a monoculture where everyone uses g/zdoom. of course i may have inferred too much from a simple omission, but this is the modern world, where "get triggered by the slightest thing that seems off" is ubiquitous heh

>>4287792
>Because that's the entire point of the website?
so later how does anyone tell the difference between unfinished test releases and quality mods you actually want to download?

>>4287801
I'd assume that's the entire point of versioning. Add test_1, alpha_2, -v0.01, or etc to the filename.

>>4287567
Like the manga? GMOTA would be the closest thing, but the sword isn't big enough.

>>4287826
>there are supercomputers under our feet right now

>>4287567
>Is BERSERK Doom a thing?
oh that takes me back
when /vr/ itself was still pretty new, there was one. it got as far as some screenshots of the player holding the big sword, but nothing more came of it.
except for one lone anon who refused to give up hope, and posted:
>any word on the berserk mod?
every few threads for about a year.

>>4287826
When is too much micro-detailing considered too much?

>>4287832
When it looks bad.

>>4287826
i don't dislike that too much except the jagged hole in the wall on the right in an otherwise clean texture, that looks awful, like the guy's just gone "oh this needs something here i can't just have a blank stretch of wall"

>>4287826
What's the .wad? The lower one, obviously.

>>4287826

Image should be renamed to "Everything wrong with Knee-Deep in ZDoom explained in one single picture"

Because that's exactly what this is.

>>4287826

Hm... Nope. I don't like it.

While looking through the Jaguar port's wiki page, a couple of maps caught my eye and I decided to make a few images comparing the most notable map changes between the original and Jaguar port. Just thought it was neat to see.

>>4287864
I also didn't include Tower of Babel/Hell Keep since those were two totally new maps in the Jaguar port, and these comparisons are focusing more on the cut areas and sectors of the original maps.

>>4287867
E2M2 is one of the biggest examples of simplified geometry and cut sectors.

>>4287869
Pandemonium was a bit difficult to recognize right off the bat.

>>4287872
And last one. Aside from simplified geometry and some minor rearranging, Mt Erebus is mostly the same despite having a huge chunk of the map (the lava sea and water sector) cut out. High-resolution map variants to give a proper sense of scale.

>>4287849
not really, the excessive detail i can live with if there's good gameplay. any list of everything wrong with kdizd must start with tedious repetitive and annoying gameplay. endless wandering around mazes, bad custom monsters, disallowing monster infighting. none of these appear in the screenshot yet all of them are far worse than anything that does.

>>4287869
that's some shit
is the chainsaw secret even connected to anything?
anyway thanks for those posts they were interesting

>>4287894
>is the chainsaw secret even connected to anything?
That's a good catch I didn't notice. Here's a note from the wiki page:
>The chainsaw room is still present on the level and is normally inaccessible. It is ordinarily impossible to get into this room and therefore to get 100% kills and secrets. In the Atari Jaguar version, it is possible to clip into the area using a glitch with the rocket launcher. This was fixed in the PlayStation and Saturn version, as these versions remove the orphaned rooms.
That's a pretty funny thing to notice.

>>4287843

Knee Deep in ZDoom, a remake of episode 1 with ZDoom specific mapping features.

It's not very good, because it was clearly designed as a ZDoom showcase first, and a game second. Worth a look if your interested in seeing what kind of features ZDoom maps offer, though.

>>4287826

>>4287451

if the autistic /v/irginal janitors of /vr/

>>4287916
Lower one looks like
> TRIGGERED

>>4287916
Oh man the lower one...

>>4287927

>>4287887
so you *didn't* like the hexen-slaughtar-but-in-doom-with-more-health?

DOOM:One >>>>>>>>>>> KDIZD

Atleast Doom:One managed to do it right instead of being fucking ridiculous and a fucking showcase as KDIZD

too bad that no one did a Doom 2 mod for, though memorial is shit when it comes to fit all 32maps into one space

Is Knee Deep in ZDoom the Half Life 2 Cinematic mod of Doom Wads?

>>4287770
>I'm just fucking about to fucking play Doom, okay you fucks? And fuck yes I'm going to fucking play it using fucking Zdoom because it's fucking still the fucking best, fuck!

Some people ITT do actually communicate like this, interspersed with hunting down people daring to enjoy Brutal Doom. The reason is because they are prepubescent.

>>4287937
>look great with hq4x resize

>>4287964
>Some people ITT do actually communicate like this
check out that faglord who writes the screenshot saturday posts

>>4287964
I wonder who could be behind this post.

>>4287996
what's wrong with it

>>4287964
>interspersed with hunting down people daring to enjoy Brutal Doom. The reason is because they are prepubescent.

it's actually the complete opposite, but who am I to judge you if it helps you sleep at night.

one day you'll outgrow bd, just like you'll outgrow your teenage ways.

R & I, gentlemen

>>4288004
writes like >>4287964 's greentexted example, but in capitals
(could you not work this out from context?)

>>4287983
That looks like dust&scratches + find edges or some shit

>>4287906
I'd have to say everything done in KDiZD is done better in Doom Tribute at this point. Plus you get Doom 1 and 2 together in that one, not just the first episode.

>>4288013
Photoshop filtering to simulate how i see the game with texture rescaling option enabled.

>>4288006
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>>4288021

>>4288017
Yes, I got that. I agree.

Nothing wrong with nearest mipmap linear 16x anisotropic though

>>4287957
FULLY
MODELED
IMPSE

there should be an ape escape themed mod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tuEfgA2LO8

>>4288021

>>4288029
Imp Escape?

>>4288026
Particularly, i see nothing wrong with the Texture Filtering option by itself, despite many people hating it for blurrying too much the game in its original art due to low res but from all OGL options GZDoom has, only Additive Dynamic Lights, Ambient Light Level and Texture Rescaling is what i disapprove, it's great that Graf removed 2 of these options already.

>>4288038
Yeah, something like that
Maybe like Golden Souls, but instead of the golden souls or whatever you had to collect, it's a group of imps, with their own stats, that have helmets.

Retard question, do all the Q3A bots have similar AI? If I were to pit a HMP Xaero against a Hardcore Crash, what would happen?

>>4288039
I liked Ambient Light Level for making legit poorly designed maps playable.

Is the distfog still there?

the distfog cvar I mean

>>4288025
>>4288030
I guess you didn't spot the hidden message. Oh well, fair's fair. I was going to delete the post in a couple of minutes anyway.

>>4288062
Slut of Hell.png

>>4288062
is that term in the bottom right

didn't know he was a man of such taste

>>4287370
>>4287371
Bump to PortaDOOM
(can't it go into the OP under "so you want to play some.."? It's intended to be a 'starting point' for newbies)

> https://spideroak.com/browse/share/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases/
> Added playable speedrun demos to Cacowards 2015/16
> DOOM 3 BFG Edition WADs are automatically patched to fix their suckiness
> Added a Glossary page
> Many other small fixes and improvements

Thanks to everybody who's tried it out!

>>4288083
>(can't it go into the OP under "so you want to play some.."? It's intended to be a 'starting point' for newbies)
i dunno i mean is it any good? has anyone else here tried it? is everyone here happy to have it implicitly endorsed by having a permanent place in the opening post of every thread?

How the FUCK do you unset default flags in DECORATE?

>>4288096
actor LazyElemental: PainElemental replaces PainElemental
{
-FLOAT
-NOGRAVITY
}

>>4288109
needs a "Speed 1" in there

>>4288109
Ah, thank you.

>>4288060
ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>4288073
Can't be, that character has a mouth.

Archviles are gay.

>>4287869
>crate maze isnt a maze anymore
Boo

>>4288030
I wish whoever made this a good day all day

>>4287826
>>4287887
Personally, I can't stand excessive detail like in KDIZD, because its ugly as sin, and bumpy as fuck. I far prefer the kind of detailing in Suspended in Dusk and BTSX, as they are far more thoughtful and interesting with it, as opposed to applying it everywhere for the sake of it.

>>4288083
>>4288094
I second PortaDOOM belonging in the OP, nobody else is doing anything to update the pastebins and shit so I think it's more than welcome, at least until somebody actually bothers to go through and update everything. Besides, it's pretty cool and clearly has a ton of effort put into it, so lets go for it. But that's just my opinion.

What's a good WAD guys? I beat a huuuuge level, took me hours and hours, might be the biggest Doom level ever. It's called "Holy Hell".

What's another good WAD?

>>4288214
You'll probably enjoy okuplok

>>4288148
That sounds like something term would say.


i bet you kiss demons with that mouth of yours, term

>>4288223
I'm far more handsome than Term, and have better taste in melee weapons.

>>4288214
on those lines there's memorial.wad which is the whole of doom2 in one map, there's the original deus vult, there's zdoom community project 2

KNEE DEEP IN ZDOOM

doomguy fits in this little tank?

>>4288227
Term is not handsome Term a cute.

>>4288227
objectively incorrect, kegan :^)

yes

i know its not considered retro because this board has retarded rules, but im about to play deus ex my first time, whats the best difficulty to play on?

Yeah, I remember KDiZD being very confusing and hard to navigate sometimes. But it looked very nice and used some neat tricks, shame about the gameplay.

>>4288212
fair enough, that's about as ringing an endorsement as you're likely to get on this website, unless of course you're a sockpuppet of the author of the thing

new border because old one was green mossy rocks

praise vanilla wizard (300min)
---

- from stream feedback put in a lift so you can get out of the lava pool in the centre of the map, even if you haven't opened the rocket launcher secret. inescapable death pits are annoying.
- reshape the two spinal columns opposite the start to allow fixing their texture alignment
- reshape the monster teleporters for efficiency, the one with the three barons seemed especially slow sometimes
- fix potential exit lockouts and/or exploits with bypassing the second exit barrier that appears if you take the final secret - put gaps between the sectors so the next highest adjacent is not under the player's control. this will annoy maxrunners but it is clearly the authors intention
- add a way to open the blue door from the other side, unlikely to find unless you know about it already
- remove tags from DR manual doors

https://a.uguu.se/pEZI5AG2XbsB_PVW_ExitFixes.zip
http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=as84nm

>>4288271
Deus Ex seems to be an exception to the rule, mods tend to turn a blind eye to threads for it and you're certainly safe talking about it here in the same thread where we can get away with Doom 4 discussion if it doesn't get out of hand.

It's been a while since I played, but I think the last difficulty setting (realism? realistic? the one that isn't easy/normal/hard) was the most fair and enjoyable to play.

finished the fucking geometry

37 maps to go

>>4288307
>no more inescapable lava pit
Thank god. That bullshit cost be so many runs in the chaos.

>>4288298
How in the world did you get that crunchy look? Looks fantastic.

>>4288343
>37 maps to go
what are you working on anon

>>4288343
>37 maps to go
the absolute madman

>>4288349
let's hope he doesn't ask me to revert it!

>>4287742
troll fucking wad, fuck you

>>4288043
They all have similar base AI but each bot has different stats for accuracy, field of view, reaction time, how aggressive or defensive they are, etc. They also have a list of weapon preferences, sometimes based around what weapons are available in the map you face them on in the singleplayer campaign. These are all in the baseq3\pak0.pk3 file, which can be explored with any ol' archive tool, I use 7-zip. Individual bot files are stored in that file in the botfiles\bots\ directory, with the format <botname>_*.c, where botname is the name of the character and * is a letter: c for the aim and movement stats, i for their item pickup priority order, t for their text chat lines and responses, and w for their weapon choice. 'i' has duplicate entries for weapon choice, but they apparently don't take precedence over the ones in the 'w' file.

As for the example you gave, depending on map, there's a good chance Crash would win. Xaero has better stats on most difficulties but Crash's stats scale way, way up as you go up in difficulty to the point where on the hardest setting (Nightmare), she has the single best bot stats in the game with zero reaction time, a 360 degree field of view and 100% accuracy, something the other bots usually only have one or two parts of even on Nightmare. The only thing holding her back is that her bot is set up to always give the Shotgun massive priority over other weapons even if it's not the ideal tool for the situation.

>>4288372
And for an example- put Nightmare Crash and Nightmare Xaero in dm0 (Crash's 'home' map) and she'll handily beat him most every time even if he sticks with the plasma just because of her ridiculous accuracy and instant reaction time (even Nightmare Xaero has a half-second reaction).

>>4288363
revert it now
No it's fine, the only reason I really really wanted the death pit in PH was because it's a punishment for trying to get that jump right and failing, with this there is no jump you're trying
also lemme add a teleporter in the bottom thing because people don't understand you need to run down to get out

>>4288343
>37 maps to go
Have fun with DM-Peak

>>4288343
>not imaginative enough to make own map
>copy UT's
>but make it all fucking brown
truly, the power of doom modding

>>4288380
>revert it now
i asked for this
>No it's fine, the only reason I really really wanted the death pit in PH was because it's a punishment for trying to get that jump right and failing, with this there is no jump you're trying
interesting, i gave up with the jump (instead preferring to go through the door via the southeast corner) not because i kept falling in the pit, but because the monsters on the platform blocked the runup too much.
>also lemme add a teleporter in the bottom thing because people don't understand you need to run down to get out

not sure which part you mean (or even which map, are we still talking about PVW? it's late, i need sleep) but feel free - you've got my latest version of PVW linked above, here's latest PH (i don't think i've touched this recently but just to be sure)
https://a.uguu.se/T2KMoz1QsvCi_PerfectHatemail.wad

>>4288405
I mean PVW, where you go down in the secret one of the demos someone posted they didnt realize where they had to go to get teleported back up
unless you think it was just that one guy maybe

>>4288046
>>4288049
I think distfog was obliterated even before those commands.

>>4288307
Punch Dimension mapper here, you think you could remove the ambush setting from some of the closet monsters from the map? Also maybe adding a way to make opening the exit from the Mastermind's lair a bit less cryptic (I remember suitepee actually thinking it was time based, which it wasn't) would be cool.

>>4288401

I didn't texture it yet

>>4288394

oh boy

>>4288467

>>4287742
Had a bitch of a time getting this to download, but had fun with it.
I'd imagine you'd probably have more feedback if the download worked.

Mike Painwazowski

and the average caco

He got his eye dilated.

Just because your own creations are terrible, it doesn't mean you have to bash other ones purely because they are (vastly) more popular.

No names have been mentioned, so don't start crying as per usual.

it feels like im the only person who draws and posts art here

>>4288591
There's also charcola.
I don't draw, though, so.

>>4288591
New content is always appreciated.

>>4288598
>charcola
is that the name of the baroness or the girl hell knight

>>4288605

No, it's the name of the artist that has the demoness-in-a-bikini skin.
Screenshots are in third-person.
Really cute art.

>>4288616
I'll have to research this person more

>>4288497

Mapper here again! Thanks for playing, i'm still tweaking that final encounter and doing detail work. I gotta focus more on doing boom-compat stuff rather than GZdoom.

http://thevidya.site/pub/blazkowicz/doom2/1506569504_EntryStationAlpha_test01.wad/EntryStationAlpha_test01.wad

is that how we use it now? Why is mixtape.moe shit now?

I'm alive I just haven't had time lately to do things. I also sprained my ankle monday so that is adding to my troubles.

>>4288591
>it feels like im the only person who draws and posts art here
Here anon, I made this for the thread

>>4288260
I'm going to hunt you down and punch you in the fuckin breadbasket.

>>4287370
Does anyone know how to fix mouse aiming in Aleph one's Marathon port? Coming off of gzdoom this is hell

>>4288591
Nonsense, I contribute too

>>4288642
playing through it now, first impressions are good
lots of startan, though

>>4288659

Feel better soon!

>>4288715
This too

>>4288601
Agree, it's like the 10th time he posts >>4288538 across the last 5 or 6 threads.

>>4288591

>try to get that BloodGDX to work
>it doesn't even start
>futz with it
>nothing
Oy. I just want to play this damn game in 16:9 without stretching.

>>4288772
Attention whoring attempt Number: 1864.

>>4288794
isn't it a little ironic to post that particluar image in response to that?

>>4288794
no u

>>4288807
I post those when i want to know it was me, just that, would be ironic if it wasn't my upper half eh?

>>4288794
just report it instead of responding
responding gives them what they want

>>4288848
Yeah i know that is not right to feed the trolls, but sometimes it's fun to say something before they get rekt by moderation.

Most underrated 90s FPS?

I'd go with the Redneck Rampage series followed by Rise of the Triad.

>>4288870
quake 1

>>4288917
the eyes got messed up

>>4288870
>Most underrated 90s FPS?
Hard question. There are a lot of games that deserve consideration.

>>4288917
>>4288931
i want someone to draw her huggin the guy on the left and he's trying to break free

>>4288950
A massive problem at the moment? Many games are totally un-fucking-playable, even to this day.

So the most underrated 90s FPS may be lost to time. Someone could've made some true poetry and nobody cared.

>>4287415
How do I do that?

>>4288540
>Demon's Inc.

>But with a mutated Pain Elemental and Mancubus.

October soon.

Are there any WADs specifically made for Halloween in the history of Doom?

The only one I can think of is that crappy joke wad one Ceeb made one or two years ago.

>>4287762
I like that a lot.

>>4287869
The reduced number of textures make the maps a lot harder to navigate trough, so in some ways, i'm thankful they simplified them a bit.

>>4288950

I really wish I could replay Killing Time with proper controls.
Never really got into chasm, played the demo I remember the demo levels being pretty boring, does it get good later ?

>>4289018
lmfao

>>4287742
Was pretty fun, maybe a bit long and difficult especially if your gonna use it as a MAP01. Also maybe a bit stingy with ammo.

>>4289016
>Are there any WADs specifically made for Halloween in the history of Doom?
i'm pretty sure there are, although i am struggling to name one
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames//index.php?search=1&field=textfile&word=halloween&sort=time&order=desc&page=1
you probably need gameplay mods not just maps, the standard player is too fast and weapons too powerful for a horror experience

>>4289039
I don't know. I tried to make it work and it just spun me around in place.

>>4289038
Having played through GBA Doom quite a bit, some maps are totally jarring due to having totally different or out of place textures. Like, "I should recognize this area but I don't, where the fuck am I?"

>>4288271
I remember it being quite challenging on just medium, but then again I was 13 and I was trying to play it full stealth, so milage might vary.

>>4288271
Realistic.

>>4288995
DOSbox is a thing.

>>4289052
Really, unless the geometry is particularly unique, you won't be able to recognize most maps from the get go. And I find it really easy to get lost without automap.

>>4289016
angry anna's halloween quest

What are some cool lesser known FPS enemies? pic not related obviously

What's the most atmospheric FPS?

>>4289102
>That gif

>>4288419
>I mean PVW, where you go down in the secret one of the demos someone posted they didnt realize where they had to go to get teleported back up
right, with you now, sorry i got confused before. yeah since it's all dark it just looks like a dead end. i'm sure there used to be light down there in the first version, but iirc you had to remove it because visplanes or something. i can't really blame people for the misunderstanding. not everyone has their automap set to show up teleporter lines in a different colour (or even looks at the automap as much as i do). oh well i'll come up with something, it seems like a good place for a sky hack wall or some such.

>>4288448
>Punch Dimension mapper here, you think you could remove the ambush setting from some of the closet monsters from the map?
will do
>Also maybe adding a way to make opening the exit from the Mastermind's lair a bit less cryptic (I remember suitepee actually thinking it was time based, which it wasn't) would be cool.
indeed i was already planning to do something in the spider room like add a switch on the back of one of the columns, but hadn't got to your map yet because a good solution to the 100% kills problem hasn't yet occurred to me.

>>4289102
Unreal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQTwm6H4wuw

>>4289097
>you can tell by the way I use my walk, I'm a shalrath's man, no time to talk

Just finished redneck rampage
Could anyone understand what they said at the end?

>>4289094
Yes, that's the one Ceeb made.

And it's not very good.

>>4289148
I have history with that guy, Ceeb is a very fucked up individual.

>>4289153
To the point it got him banned off Zdoom.

>>4289065
Shockingly, DOSBox doesn't run everything. Take pic related for example, it's First Expedition and it doesn't fucking work.

>that long flashy buzzword-laden screed in front of Don't Play With Hell
This thing is mediocre at best isn't it?

>>4288870
Realms of the Haunting

>>4289148
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=49856

This is not Ceeb's work, no.

>>4289097
These motherfuckers were terrifying back then

FRAIL MORTAL

>never satisfied until I finished a map UV pistol start nosaves
>playing a hard mapset
autism is suffering
why do i do this

>>4289248
Okay, this confuses me. I swear that there was a thread by Ceeb where he linked this WAD.

>>4289114
>it seems like a good place for a sky hack wall or some such
and indeed it turned out quite well i think

https://a.uguu.se/Pm2G0xiRXMwt_PVW_highlightexitfromsecret.wad
http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=kt84dz

>>4289146
Is the game worth playing?

>>4289239
I'm not so sure about that, it kind of falls apart as it goes.

The first couple of hours are really neat though.

>>4288642
I think the main problem is that its too cramped which makes it too easy surprisingly - the hitscanners never get a chance to fire any shots because of all the corners

The switch that lowers the bars to the teleporter is a bit ambiguous I'd say, its a lot of backtracking and theres no reason for the teleporter to be at the start really. also you should make the teleporters two-way in case anyone wants to go back for secrets

The SSG trap was good, HKs and Barons are great pressuring monsters but I think the room may be too narrow, theres no room to escape if they both come at you at once

I shouldn't have to tell you that the blue key area is shit, instadeath pits aren't fun especially when they're towards the end of a level. The final section could do with some work too, its easy to dart past the HKs and with the amount of ammo you'd have by then 2 mancs and an arch aren't much trouble

Overall its a good attempt, especially for a first map, I think it flows well (apart from the backtracking to the tele) and it looks like a techbase for the most part. Try to be a bit more consistent with the textures - each new room doesn't have to have distinct textures (although its a good idea for player progression) but main thing to keep in mind would be monster encounters, a lot of the rooms are the same size and shape so they play quite similar, the midi is fantastic though if its original

Your reminder that Brutal Doom exists.

>>4289430

>>4289430
>garbage outside of /b/

>>4288448
>>4289114
the punch dimension (300min)
---

- four switches in the pillars in the spiderdemon room are required to be pressed in order to escape it, instead of a random unmarked line somewhere in the floor
- remove ambush flag from some of the monster closet population, add block sound flag to some lines
- some standout texture misalignments fixed (not all, it'd take too long)
- remove impassible line in front of stuck cyberdemon so you can punch it out for 100% kills if you want (although there is enough ammo for it) - this is still a bit silly, maybe improve it if there's time

https://a.uguu.se/RfYfaBAkjEFn_TPD_FourSwitch.zip
http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=fv52hh

>>4289476

>>4289478

So how many more updates need to be made until the final version of 300 minutes is complete?

Still fuck with the beats, still not loving police
Still not mapping in the Doom GZ

>>4289260
Are those six nipples?

>>4288707
I *heard* disabling mouse acceleration will fix it, but I never tried it as I'm just so used to Aleph One's mouse at this point.

>>4289569
>player tasted the pain from a renegade angel

>>4289587
>Xavier's 3D model is available
>one could technically add him to Doom

>>4289097
These things from Turok Dinosaur Hunter.

I decided to give Sarais' E2 replacement a fair shot, because why not. Playing on PRBoom+ (for the first half; I'll explain later), UV difficulty with pistol starts; thoughts are below:

E2M1: Sector work is as jagged and haphazard as ever; the gameplay however has significantly improved from previous maps of his, mostly because this is an entirely berzerk focused map. Only secret I found was a backpack of all things hidden behind an invisible wall; what purpose this serves beyond continuous play eludes me. For a vanilla/Boom compatible mapset, it doesn't seem to have been tested in such a setting; -complevel 2 rendered the teleport switch to exit the level unusable, while -complevel 9 gets you through the teleporter to find that the hurt floor doesn't work. The author's ZDoom preference showing up again fairly early on.

E2M2: The level start demands that you "RUN!" Not really necessary; as long as you have some patience, you can Tyson the opening pinkies and spectres without much difficulty. You'll probably want the chainsaw for the enemies that follow though, and it's stuck behind an incredibly tiny switch. Pressing that switch is arguably the hardest part of the map. God knows I didn't see it until I opened up the map editor. Otherwise it plays reasonably well, nothing particularly difficult to deal with monster-wise. The outdoor area looked alright, doofy wooden swastika things hanging above the nukage for edge aside. Decent teleporter ambush, would've been more effective if he had put the monster closet further away from the area so we couldn't hear the pinkies ready to spawn in.

>>4289708
E2M3: More melee focus early on, but this is the first map where you actually get your hands on some firepower, with the shotgun readily available, and the chaingun hidden in a secret. Again, the visuals are haphazard, with the vines covering the entrance to the techbase looking particulary nasty in a bad way, but the gameplay has improved greatly from his /vr/300 and abortive JOM4 maps. The only nasty trap here is the introduction of the shotgunners, but overall the map encounters are pretty reasonable and, dare I say it, fun.

E2M4: Oh good, I was beginning to think this wasn't a Sarais mapset. Judging by how awful the general surroundings look, this must be one of the earliest maps he worked on. Even with the large hoards of monsters he ends up throwing at you, there is way more ammo than you'll ever need to take everything out on pistol start. Lotta enemies lurking behind obvious blind corners too. To top it off, the Barons make their first appearance here, blocking off the exit (not that they're not avoidable if you keep trigger discipline and don't shoot at the obvious sacrificial lamb standing around in the middle of the room, but where's the fun in that?) and proceeding to slowly make their way around the many stuck corners that have defined Sarais' maps up until the present. The pinkie crusher trap was pretty funny, at least.

>>4289578
I tried that but it's still hell

>>4289714
E2M5: So this is the point where any semblance of Boom compatibility goes out the window. Despite using only Boom voodoo doll scripting, you just won't be able to get past the starting door unless you use GZDoom. As for the level itself: props to you for trying to do something creative with voodoo dolls Sarais, but you just don't clearly telegraph what you're supposed to do with the marine standing there. I ended up crouching underneath the door my first time through before I actually looked at what he was doing in the map editor. It is fairly creative having to guide the voodoo doll throughout the level before blasting him into the secret exit, just incredibly unclear, and I don't think there's really any way to tell the player what to do here short of putting in a custom picture telling them what to do. Otherwise this is a gimmick map focused around rocketing Barons to death. Not very remarkable outside of the voodoo doll stuff.

E2M9: Like Fortress of Mystery, only the Cacos and Barons are separated apart and it sucks. Also you telefrag a Mastermind. Next.

E2M6: Ok seriously, if you're going to throw hoards of cacodemons at the player, at least have the decency to provide a rocket launcher so it isn't tedious as shit trying to get through the hoard. For some reason, Sarais really loves punching and chainsawing Cacos in this wad, and he merges this newfound love of his with his old love of placing way too much ammo and health than needed, to mixed effect. The visual vomit comes mainly in the color of red this time around; seriously, look at this screenshot, it's pretty bad. You can't see it from there, but those holes in the ground are more of those void openings that Sarais is so damn fond of for some reason. I don't know why this level bugged me so much compared to the previous levels; maybe I'm just resentful that a supposedly vanilla styled mapset is forcing me to use GZDoom.

>>4289718
E2M7: Holy shit, a cohesive level that doesn't feel like a chore to play. That's something I haven't been able to say since E2M3. Like sure, the level's a bit too large for its own good, and there aren't really any standout encounters, and yes, questionable sector and texture choices abound, but this looks and feels pretty good. If I had to point at anything that gave the map its cohesiveness compared to previous levels, it's have to be the fact that this is mostly techbase in nature, rather than all the hell textures thrown into a blender. Like, moreso than any of the previous maps in the set, this feels like a Doom map, just because of that grounding in reality that so many previous Sarais maps have lacked. Another thing to help my mood is an early rocket launcher, which is good, since there were quite a handfull of Barons and Cacos that needed rocketing. There was also an early Cyberdemon at the end, but his back was turned, so I left the nerd be.

E2M8: Sarais' finale doesn't exactly break new ground, but it ultimately plays with the standard E2M8 type of level in interesting ways. One of those ways, as it happened, was to throw an E1M8 homage in there, because I guess Sarais isn't interested in doing a full E1 replacement anytime soon. The level really picks up once you reach the Tower of Babel stand-in, as you then proceed to scale the tower, with Sarais throwing a couple of curveballs at you before you finally reach the Cyber fight. Pretty alright way to end the WAD, I'd say.

>>4289720
Conclusions:
Well, it's not the worst thing I've ever played. Having the more limited bestiary of Doom without DECORATE items to abuse seems to have helped improve Sarais' mapping to an extent. The big problem remaining is that his maps look sloppy as fuck, with odd sections overdetailed to a silly degree compared to their surroundings, scizophrenic sector detailing meant to convey Hell encroaching on reality looking more like SLADE took a dump on the map during compiling, and obscure progression in areas, to say nothing of the general ZDoom-isms that keep this set from being fully playable in anything other than the ZDoom family. (At least he's stopped trying to abuse HOM's like it's the second coming of 50 Shades of GREYTALL). If I were to recommend a mapset for Sarais to study and take notes from, it'd be NaturalTvventy and Xaser's No End In Sight. E2M2 of that WAD in particular pulls off the Hell encroachments on reality much more gracefully than what's on display here in my opinion. The other obvious mapset to look at would, of course, be Going Down; the way Mouldy transforms the levels throughout play is incredibly inspiring, and it almost feels foolish if Sarais isn't cribbing from that set already. As for this mapset though, while it gets pretty weak around the middle portion, it does pick up during the last two maps, and ending one's mapset on a positive note is what really counts, right?

>>4289718
>Sarais really loves punching and chainsawing Cacos in this wad
almost like he gets off to being eaten by monsters or something

>>4289298
its great

>>4289558
it's nearly done. i hope to post a beta before end of day.

>>4289871
It might be just me, but I find it to be a lot harder than other games.

Does Someone has the links for the Roland Patch for Gzdoom? the links on thesc55 page are dead

>>4289886
what are you, some kind of doom child???

>>4289146
Does Redneck Rampage have an engine port?

>>4289904
someone loaded the assets into duke and that's the closest there is, however i believe it already works with windows on it's own

rule34 when

So in regards to the Halloween /vr/ project that I expressed interest in hosting a while ago, I was thinking about making it a zdoom project rather than boom. This is so I can enforce pistol starts and I've been wanting to try my hand at making a zdoom map for some time.
Also regarding textures, would the Gothic Texture Pack on realm667 work?
I'll make an official rules post some time tomorrow or Saturday.

Why does he keep bleeding?
Where's the key supposed to be in e4m5?
Is it glitched?

>>4289948

Gothic pack, Hexen textures, there's also blood too

>>4289958
> hexen and blood
as long as they are straight rips and truecolor png
in doom palette they look horrible

>>4289948
Also don't forget Cacolantern skins.

>>4289920
GOG version is DOSbox so idk

>>4289342

Thanks for the honest feedback! I've read around on Doomworld on what/what not to do, just need to work better on designing encounters.

And the midi is Run - Unreal Tournament. Found it to be a good rendition.

>>4289948
will you still accept boom-compatible maps or will i have to use hexen/udmf and zdoom features? also, what is your position on custom textures supplied by participants? i've a silly idea for a secret that will require one custom texture.

>>4289948
I mean, if you want to enforce pistol starts, you can require submitted maps to have death exits. That said, I'm definitely up for trying out some UDMF mapping, assuming we could make it Zandro compatible. It'd be nice if we could have a /vr/ co-op run of the mapset to close out the month.

>>4289994
I'd say Boom-compatible maps should be alright. If it works in ZDoom, it's fair game.

Has anyone eved made sprite based props or textures based on food/drink vending machines from Doom 3/16?

>>4289962
Good idea, I'll replace the cacodemon sprites with the cacolanturn's but that's it.
>>4289994
I want most participants to use the zdoom (doom 2 UMDF) format, but if you really insist on making a boom map then I suppose it wouldn't hurt.

Also as long as you don't use a whole wad's worth of custom textures I don't see the harm in adding in an outside texture or two as long as you specify what it is you added.

>>4290031
I probably want to add the neutral and gothic orange stuff from CC4tex.wad.

Plus the obligatory hidden waifu picture.

>>4290031
>Good idea, I'll replace the cacodemon sprites with the cacolanturn's but that's it.
Good, that's why I made emphasis on 'skins'. Fuck 667 combat stats.

>>4290047
>Fuck 667 combat stats.
This. Waterlab GZD is amazing until the Hades Elemental and Overlord fight.

>>4289948
Than maybe it would be better to do it in GZDoom instead of just ZDoom?
Incase somebody wants to make a graveyard level with colored fog or something.

>>4289031
Can't wait for when I get to code it. It'll be both an enemy and a pickup that spawns an empty one for the player to wear when used.

Both arms will have independent "smart gun" type targeting when worn to make it a horde killer along with a crazy cyclic rate on the miniguns.

Haven't touched Oblige in a while and this looks neat.

>>4290138
And here's another one.

>>4289718
why there's a typical "hexagonal tiles lol" detailing on a non-hex floor?

>>4290138
>>4290140
what's the mod?

>>4290147
MetaDoom.

>>4290147

Looks like MetaDoom.

>>4290140
Also, a dog came out of that cage.

>>4290143
iirc he wanted to do a map with a hexagons theme. also hexagon cutouts that aren't based on floor4_8 are kind of refreshing in a "subvert the horrible my-first-doom-builder-map cliche" way

>>4290154
oblige will place MBF dogs now? interesting

>>4290156
I kinda want to do hexagon cutouts now, except they're rotated 30 degrees or some crap so it just looks dumb as fuck

and it'll be on FLAT20

>>4290138
I always get clusterfucks filled with switches that work doors half the map away.
I end up wandering some oblige maps like a lost child in a supermarket because of this.

>>4289948
I like the idea of zdoom cuz there's cool things you can do with it. I don't know how I feel about forcing pistol start, it would break compatibility with certain mods especially those with RPG mechanics where you want you're character progressions to be kept from level to level. I dunno I'm just a big advocate for letting people play wads the way they want to.

>>4290171
I also agree with this. Just let the guys who want to pistol start use IDCLEV and let the guys who want to play continuously do so.
Yeah, some maps really lose out when weapons are carried over, but that's how most people play Doom.

>>4290170
where do you live where children run around supermarkets at 90mph with shotguns??

>>4290192
Do they also kill other guys until they hit the fraglimit?

>>4290192
America

>>4290208
Can't be. Children in America don't run. They're too fat.

>>4290208
Americans can respawn?

>>4290241
How else would we have won two world wars back to back?

>>4289050
Finally got it working. Sort of. It's a bit of an early console feeling shooter. Go here, do this. Go there, do that. It's like a more constrained Quake 2, and I didn't like Quake 2.

One funny thing is that if you selectively aim and blow both of an enemy's arms off they'll run at you and try to kick you.

>>4290269
One thing I will say about CHASM. It's retardedly CPU-bound. You need to fuck with things to even start it via DOSBox. And just using the Normal core setting means it chugs if you up the resolution.

>>4290256
By doing all they needed too, They sat on their asses till the last minute and watched the superpowers of the world tear each-other to ribbons,

Then marked their superiority over the wounded nations of the world by demonstrating the power of the Atomic Bomb on the country stupid enough to drag them into the war.

>>4289018

>mfw that demons face is mfw

you know what, Doom is gorgeous

>>4290293
So wait. Is it an issue with DOSBox games that putting them at 1280x1024 makes the thing start crapping itself? If I set the CPU to dynamic and start cranking it, the game starts coming apart before the frame rate reaches 30.

>>4290448
doom is cool, i m o

>>4290448
I always loved early 00's visuals. More detailed than 90's stuff, and before the dark days where everyone was trying to copy Tormentor and Agent Spork.

>>4289569
I SMELL FEAR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXzJ0wFj-ag&t=606s

Am I allowed to enjoy Brutal Doom or is it really that bad?

>>4290507
>tormentor
I'm playing through zpack right now and I'm not convinced he knows how to make a fun map

holy shit these maps are bad

>>4290515
Yes.

What is it about Doom that keeps you coming back? I'm talking aside from unofficial WADs. What about that core game makes it still so appealling that almost every other FPS doesn't nail?

>>4290525
Immediacy

>>4290516
ZPack is just awful all the way through, some of the maps are so bad you can't tell if they're intentional trolling.

>>4290525
Enemy variety. Other things I can't really pinpoint.

>>4290534
this has to be intentionally awful. e2m2 is *a fucking hallway* stretched out to fill an entire map. e2m3 is nothing but pitiful ambushes that are so obviously telegraphed that you almost feel like the demons didn't want to be a part of this, and e2m4 has such lovable tricks as "oh, you opened this door? SURPRISE GET EXPLODED" and equally pitiful ambushes, on top of heavily scripted fight sequences that would've been better as a normal fucking doom fight.

I haven't played the other maps yet, but you almost have to believe their only experience with doom was watching 20 second snippets of the game. this is truly horseshit.

>>4290525
the balance of enemy intelligence and predictability that allows for near-infinitely scalable difficulty depending on usage. any given map is precisely as easy or hard as the author wants it to be, without needing absolute control over every single event.

>>4290525
there's just so much gameplay, you constantly have to adjust your strategy based on which enemies you're fighting, which weapons you have, which ammo you need to conserve, it's just endlessly satisfying

>>4290525
>What is it about Doom that keeps you coming back?
what do you mean, keep coming back? i never leave

>>4290525
i am a chew toy

>>4290576
rott is my favourite game of all time

>>4290580
I don't actually like it all that much but 'I am a chew toy' is the best fucking difficulty name ever.

>>4290516
>>4290534
The only good maps in Zpack IMO, were the ones Vader made (and he released them separately too), and that secret level Xaser made was pretty neat

>>4290563
I think my personal favourite is the map with the flesh hole in the floor that cacodemons rise up from, they timed it perfectly so you see nothing if you look down into it when you enter the room, and then you get ganked in the ass out of nowhere if you go through the door and start a fight with the monsters ahead. And then the same map has a small closet that serves no purpose but to have a SSG zombie facing you at point blank from the side when you go in.

>>4290604
man i could go for a flesh hole right about now. even if it's full of cacodemons

>>4290525
Fun arcadey gunplay with a good mixture of hitscan and projectile enemies combined with dungeon-esque level design.

Only thing that would really top this for me is if a game came out doing all of the above, but with modern graphics, and metroidvania world progression.

>>4290635
>metroidvania world progression
No.

>>4290639
I like adventure games.

How hard would it be to develop a dungeon crawling ARPG akin to Daggerfall in the ZDoom engine? Has someone done just that already?

>>4290643
Strife.

>>4290650
Strife isn't like Daggerfall at all.

>>4290639
Didn't like Metroid, i take it?

>>4290651
Openworld is impossible in Dom engine.

>>4290641
They have no place on a classic-style FPS. Having to retread old areas over and over on your way to where you actually want to be would get old extremely fast. Good metroidvanias get around that issue by drastically increasing your firepower and movement options at regular intervals so you can get through already visited areas much faster. In the latter quarter or so of SM you basically don't even touch the floor anymore and exist in a perpetual state of screw attacking.

>>4290650
Strife isn't exactly what I meant. It has RPG features sure, but it doesn't have the dungeon-crawler vibe to it, play through the first dungeon of Daggerfall, then the first level proper of Strife, you'll see what I mean.
>>4290657
Plenty of mapsets have level-selection hubs though, which is pretty close to what Daggerfall has.

>>4290660
>Having to retread old areas over and over on your way to where you actually want to be would get old extremely fast
For you, maybe.

>>4289885
>it's nearly done. i hope to post a beta before end of day.
okay, here's a release candidate. there's probably something stupid i missed. please find it for me.

downloads
https://a.uguu.se/QFxoQg6VpzAb_300minvr-draft20170928.zip
http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=qg12ye

post-release changelog:
http://sprunge.us/KPLi

>>4290669
In a game more about arcade-yness and gunplay it would either be tedious to revisit rooms with enemies in them, or feel empty without them.

>>4290670

>>4290660
>Having to retread old areas over and over on your way to where you actually want to be would get old extremely fast.

But that's exactly what a lot of classic map designs entail.

>>4290684
except you do exactly that in Doom I and II with all the backtracking you do to get keys and shit

how do I gz doom builder

>>4290706
Well designed maps use a number of elements such as spawning new enemies, shortcuts, good level flow in general, etc. ensuring you never spend too much time just idly moving forward unless you're lost, and even then once you're done with a map you never have to see it again. This is completely different from having you revisit one or several maps you already beat possibly several times on your way to an actual new map. I mean Quake 2 already tried it and it sucked, what more proof do we need?

Here's a small addon for the Super Mario Doom graphical replacement pack that's been out for a while now. Changes a few weapons, enemies, etc. Utilizes some decorate from the Empathy mod. You can play without the Super Mario Doom .wad, but very strange things will happen and you will be very, very confused.
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=32204313767277567234

Where can I get the Doom novels?

>>4290670
PVW mapped here, I am posting update to that map when I get back to pc

Anyone have a solid music pack for Episode 4 of Doom 1?

OR a list of solid music packs in general?

>>4290790
forgot pic

>>4290790
>>4290795
http://thevidya.site/pub/blazkowicz/doom2/1506648815_DemonSteele-NowThatsWhatICallMIDI-v3.5.pk3/

>>4290778
Is that Plutonia on the bottom right?

Anybody have the latest version of Dakka?

>>4290778
>that cover for Infernal Sky
oh fuck

>Doom 2, 6 maps in
Shit man, this is so good
>Doom 2, 10 maps in
These new enemies are tough but fun to fight
>Doom 2, 20 maps in
Well, those 6 maps with the "lock you in a room with 500 chaingunners and 50 pain elementals" kinda trap sure were something
>Doom 2, 23 maps in
Where is the fucking exit
>Doom 2, 25 maps in
Are you sure you want to quit this great game?

What happened to that anon who was making a Dark Souls-inspired Hexen mod?

>>4290778
Different poster, are there scans or .pdf versions of these?

POST OBSCURE FPSES

>>4290906
I remember this being SO REALISTIC in that you can kill yourself by cutting off your own limbs, though it also had a more arcade mode that toned down the realistic bullshit. I didn't get far in either mode.

And it's also completely unrelated to Deus Ex.

>>4290906
Isn't that a tad late for /vr/?
I don't have many obscure ones... Especially not by /vr/ standards

>>4290906
>>4290912
>look it up
>1998
Nevermind, I'm wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me2abUElYTU&ab_channel=Sarioya
Realms of the Haunting.

>>4290906
Carnivores isn't obscure, mods are still being made for it to this day, mods that can be released as full standalones. The developer's previous game though, now that's obscure. This is supposedly its only custom singleplayer map, or at least its first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOMgq52pxJM

>>4290660
You're acting like all I want is exactly Doom with a Metroid style world and nothing else. Not at all what I said.

>>4290738
>Quake 2 sucked because it had you revisit areas
No. That was one of the better parts of that game. It sucked because it was basically nothing but techbase for the whole game with boring gunplay.

>>4287371
HUMP now BETA:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ga6tob0yakcw4e0/HUMP_BETA.zip

17 Brand spanking new maps

>>4290954

oh shit of fuck oh damn

>>4290964
>shit of fuck

>>4290954
Fuckin dope.

>>4290954
Hell yeah

>>4290783
>>4290670
Here:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxbbtKR5bll_TjFBSmEzZzZybmM
changes:
--some texture offsets
--teleporter in secret instead of sky, didn't like way blood fall looked; sorry
--standing on top of the key looking at sky over wall looks better now
--lowered the lowering floors from 800 to 500 in final room so less waiting before going
--made blue key door open from either side, BUT when you go in the secret area it puts a close wait open on the blue door

>>4290954
But where is QUMP

She got a BIG ASS, have mercy

>>4291012
Isn't it close? Like edging a release of some sort?

>>4290448
Which mapset is this?

>>4291012
We're just waiting on the start map to be finished - guy making it has been busy.

All the maps are done though, so sometime HUUUUUUHsoon

>>4291012
Gone.

>>4291054
THERE IS NO GOD
THERE IS NO ALLAH

>>4291082
Your sword is NOT enough

>>4290525
idk man, I didn't really grew up with it, but from time to time I just get an actual urge to play it.

>>4290875
Really? I always feel the last couple of levels are actually an improvement over the mid-game.

>>4290921
Not him, but it's the first time in my entire life I see someone (other than me) bring Carnivores up.

Is Turok worth it for 3$? Haven't played it since I got to try it for like 10 minutes at a friend's house at least a decade ago.

And yes I know I could pirate it, but I like to own me games.

>>4291105
3$ isn't really anything

I have the sudden urge to make a mod that replaces all the sounds in doom with ASMR sound effects.

>finally get word back
>seems they managed to get most things
>but there's "some" which is damaged/corrupted
>all in all it'll end up costing roughly $850 (!)
Let's hope nothing I treasure has been damaged, like my IC work or porn.

>>4291119
That sounds like it'd be annoying as shit.

>>4291115
Yeah, but there's games that aren't even worth that. I was wondering if Turok is in fact a good game.

>>4291126
>that scar on her neck

is she dio

>>4291126
Quick rundown of the situation? Needed to have a hard drive dismantled for data recovery?

Learn to back important shit up?

>>4291134
No. Did Dio even have a scar? I seem to remember his head looked pretty seamless on Jonathan's body, but then I'm also a filthy animeonly.

>>4291136
Yes, hard drive dies, and among important things like porn and waifu stuff, is also my Immoral Conduct project.

Now, I actually did backup MOST of that not that long before the drive died, but there's a fair bit lost, and not just to talk about all the other stuff I want.

I'm fully aware that I have myself to blame for this situation, the laptop was awfully ratty for a long time, and I had only done a partial backup at around Christmas or so, at the latest.

>>4291139
Man, that really sucks, you can't always make backups of your shit, especially if it's a lot.
HDDs wearing out is a major pain in the ass, especially on fucking wangblows and it's file system that almost feels like it's designed to kill them faster.

>>4290660
I dunno. Metroid Prime with the faster paced combat of classic FPSs sounds pretty fun to me.

>>4290863
Wait, what's reaching out to grab Flynn in that picture?

help

>>4291214
Autoalign, you double revenant.

>>4290778
>Doom
>Space Opera

I want to read these books so badly since I know they are absolutely batshit

>>4291217
Wow that was stupidly simple. Thanks.

>>4291223
It amazes me how they take the concept of Doom and then use that to explore the nature of the human soul while replacing the demons with a race of broccoli aliens known as the Freds, and play it all straight the entire time.