/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
A SERIOUS CASE OF /vr/
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9611263#p9611406

VIOLENT RUMBLE 2
Still kicking
Deadline: May 31st

=== NEWS ===
[3-23] Temporal Tantrum is out on Idgames
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/temp_tantrum

[3-23] TrenchBroom 2023.1 released
https://github.com/TrenchBroom/TrenchBroom/releases/tag/v2023.1

[3-18] Anon shares his widescreen Heretic graphics
https://files.catbox.moe/buu3ix.zip

[3-18] La Tailor Girl updated to v1.89
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1238204#p1238204

[3-17] New Ironwail just dropped
https://github.com/andrei-drexler/ironwail

[3-14] Half-Life MMOD released
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1761270/HalfLife_MMod/

[3-14] vkQuake updated to 1.30.0
https://github.com/Novum/vkQuake/releases

[3-14] Rampancy 2.0 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=67193

[3-10] MM8BDM updated
https://cutstuff.net/forum/index.php?topic=11983.0

[3-8] New GZDoom shooter, Captain Wayne - Vacation Desperation demo released
https://ciaran-games.itch.io/wayne

[3-7] Duke 2008 model leaked
https://rentry.org/x0r_jmp

[3-4] Alkaline 1.2 released
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/alkaline.62/

[3-1] DBP57: Shatter Realm is out
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/3116/

[2-28] LunchLunch releases a new map
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/3115/

[2-28] DNF Restoration status update
https://www.moddb.com/mods/dnf2001-restoration-project/news/february-2023-development-update

[2-27] New build of Half-Life for Dreamcast leaked
https://twitter.com/CombyLaurent1/status/1630108636931301376

[2-27] Version 1.3 of Temporal Tantrum released
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qwlqXqy_1eJdq9jTVCpbunVA2lEujwVW

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Sonic OC Cyberdemon needs his own game

>>9765242
first time I see quake overtaking doom, very nice.

>>9765242
Quakebros...we won

>>9765242

>>9765401

i can't for the life of me finish the joystick calibration for Cybermage, the lower-right corner refuses to register.
i'm running it through dosbox on linux, and using a CH Flightstick Pro

>>9765435
furthermore, i can't even get out of the calibration. I can restart it by pressing esc but i can't cancel it. so i'm practically stuck.

I'm late to the news of my own project getting onto idgames, but yes, Temporal Tantrum is now on idgames.

I want to give big thank yous to:
>EnragedEggplant and LunchLunch for contributing a bunch of maps each, testing all maps, going in new thematic directions I could springboard off, and equally using the directions I'd gone in. The fact we started with no cohesive direction on map theme and ended up with cohesive episodes is impressive.
>Brxyz for ignoring the directive to make small maps in the best possible way and creating an absolute blast of a map
>Bartekmil for joining late in the project when enthusiasm was flagging and rebooting my motivation with your map and your testing of other maps
>ChopBlock for the tweaked graphic sets and your willingness to let me pinch 94Protons sprites ahead of the 94Protons release (you won't see this kind of sharing spirit from the BTSX crew)

>>9765579
>ahead of the 94Protons release
Every bit of recorded human history will happen before that.

>>9765242
>alkaline nice fun
Damn right

Decided to see if I could shit out another Rumble map before the deadline. Two months should be enough, but then again I told myself that the last time. But then again again, coming off the heels of a previous map has gotten me more into the flow of designing these things, and there's now a stronger vision and focus of what I want to achieve.
If you want to try your hand at making a level for the project, here's the link for the entire repository with both VR1 and the VR2 development folder, because I'm not seeing it anywhere in the OPs https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ
I'm sure the lead will appreciate anything you end up producing, as the turnout for this has been almost nil and most of the stuff that'll be presented and played will have been made by him.

Anyways, I accidently stumbled on this horrific sight.

>>9765698

>>9765698
Thanks anon, and godspeed.
>Anyways, I accidently stumbled on this horrific sight.
I... I somehow never considered weather the buzzsaws could kill zombies or not. I guess they never showed up in the same place in DOE? Probably the same with pendulums.
Regardless, a new progs.dat is up that fixes that. Might be some debug text popups on random things, just ignore them.

>>9765242
>bullshit backrooms
Amen, so tired of this meme.

>>9765242
>mistake remaster
uh, kexbros.. ?

>>9765606
proton decay you say?

>>9765698
that's a nice blood shower hack

QUAKE chads rise up!

>>9765698
>Dats gotta hurt!

>>9765579
Thanks for linking this awesome project so we can download it bro.

>>9765698
It still has 2 months? Maybe i should revisit the abandoned concept i had for the first VR. I wanted to make an Egyptian map with a blue/grey color scheme and the Rogue mission pack enemies.

>you will live to see a new era of AI enhanced DOOM wads
Seriously though, most DOOM wads are made by one dude, now it can be one dude + AI

>>9766072
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/133843

>>9766121
Man it's scary to think all my programming studying was for nothing. At a total loss at what to do next.

>>9766121
>https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/133843
This is so sick and I honestly would never have thought of this idea

>>9766126
I know how you feel bro, as an artist and graphic designer.

At the same time though, I've been using AI augment my own art and creations.

>>9766006
It's in the news post, but here you go https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/temp_tantrum

>>9766126
I wouldn't worry about it, AI is fucking retarded, human input, expertise, and decision making, are always going to remain vital.

ok, played this infamous map, both arenas are cancer, my tip is saving every single rocket for the last one

>>9765980
Are Shamblers dicklets just like gorilas?

>>9766256
btw, isn't this in the sewer jam 2?
it was also easier I guess, this map IS revised

>>9765242
>Blood maps cool
I can't even name one that's genuinely bad - but then again I haven't played it in almost 18 years at least

>>9765242
>Quake won for once
Nice. All it took were several high profile releases at once.
Also
>Popular novum saw ass
>Updates except vkquake
Kek.

>>9765249
>>9766272
is not the first time
>>/vr/thread/S8060092#p8061128

>>9765228
what happened to quake 2 25th anniversary?

>>9766301
IIRC 1 usermap turned out to be completely unplayable outside of its creators own hardware config or something

>>9766281
>makes Quake look great
>must download

>>9766301
Nothing. People briefly returned to it for a replay, everyone remembered that it was impressive on a technical level but kind of boring to play and left it at that.
It was lovely using its railgun again for the first time in decades, but I'll stick to the crazy lightning gun and hurling high velocity nine inch nails at monsters in the original.

>>9766301
>>9766337
Yeah that seemed to really mess things up, been replaying a few of Wulf’s maps inbetween this little recent Q1 fad while I wait.

>>9766367
I hate this shit. You get kids raving about some horrible shiny mod for Doom that pulls this exact garbage on youtube too.
How the hell does someone look at that and think "Hmm... yes! This looks just like the original but better!"

>>9766410
>this little recent Q1 fad
I actually think my tastes are changing, because if anything the last week has taught me that I might like Quake more than Doom. The added verticality and oddly low tech weapons are more fun than I remembered, the only thing Quake lacks is the gorier, satisfying death animations for monsters. Just having an enemy groan and fall over like they've had enough and want a nap is nowhere near as fun to see, and even Alkaline's added pain skins for nearly dead monsters don't sell the sheer destruction you're meant to be causing to me.
Quake's gibbing is better though. I love the cartoony, chunky explosion of meat and blood over Doom's weird and dull "opening like a bloody flower" effect.

What's the maximum amount of damage the BFG tracers can do? Just the tracers, not counting the projectile.

>>9766472
Wiki says each tracer will at most do 87 damage due to RNG table, which would add to 3480. However because of Doom's RNG it will be less.
If RNG wasn't pre-determined, each tracer could do up to 120 adding to 4800 repetedly, but that would be 1 in 8^600 which is probably not going to happen.

>>9766589
So nobody's ever done the math with Doom's PRNG table? They have with the shotguns.

>>9766472
All I know is from this ancient weapon DPS table:
https://www.doom2.net/single/weaponfaq.html#weapont
Old but still provides some interesting insights, like how there’s a big fucking powergap between the shotgun/chaingun and plasma/launcher showing why they made the super shotgun.

>>9766437
And usually accompanied by a claim it's a banned remake that makes id's panties collectively tremble knowing they couldn't possibly match this.

>>9766694
Which is silly, because Eternal looks far better. And I say this as someone who doesn't care for the newer games direction.

>>9766595
I'm pretty sure decino did in his BFG video.

>>9766751
Nah, he only mentions the total damage including the ball. No mention in his video on all the weapons either.

>>9766756
He did in the weapons video if you scroll down to the pinned comment. Its 3559 damage. He even linked a site to the simulation model used.

>>9766807
2759 without the BFG ball, apparently.

What's the UV equivalent for Return to Castle Wolfenstein? The intended difficulty that offers a fair challenge for a first-time playthrough, but doesn't turn enemies into bullet sponges and will have you scrambling for ammo. HMP?

>>9766818
>will have you scrambling for ammo
I meant won't

>>9766818
>HMP
I meant bring'em on!

>>9766818
The only thing difficulties in RtCW change is how much you get from ammo and health pickups. Middle difficulty should be good for a first time playthrough.

>>9766367
This, but unironically.
Also NTMAI for GZDoom.

>>9766834
thanks

>>9766251
If/when AI gets good enough to make doom maps, i wonder if it will be relegated to the same tier as slige/obsidian generated maps. IE, something that can be fun for the creator to dick around in, but not something that should be released to the community.

I wasn't expecting yet another map to leave 50 circuitboards scattered around for me to find, but at least this time the best prize available was for 42 and it didn't seem to offer anything for all 50.
One more map to go, I left Dancing in the Golden Sun for last because I remember it being really good in the first version. I'm going to miss Alkaline, it's the most fun I've had with a game in a long time.

>>9767067
>take NOMO pictures of a ton of locales and vistas in doom maps
>"doom arena by skillsaw"
>"doom temple by danne"
>???

>>9767131
Sounds like a truly epic hitchhiker's guide reference

>>9767171
I thought so, but unless there's a bit about it giving Arthur a laser gun and rocket launcher that I forgot about then probably not.
The atmosphere was far more serious than the other map to do this, feeling more like a mini Dead Space with you having to go around "repairing" things.

>>9765242
>literally amazing anywhere bossbrain

>>9765242
>completely lovecraftian gzdoom kamikazes

Reminder to watch these old videos if you want to know which fps to play
https://www.youtube.com/@Balgorg

It's over. What a ride!
There are a few things the Alkaline team could improve on in the future, like maybe featuring the jump boots more often or the cluster grenade launcher appearing in more maps. I'm still satisfied by what I played, though. It never fully reached the highs of Arcane Dimensions but outside of that one final fight that's been mentioned before there weren't many real lows either.
Guess it's onto either Dwell Episode 2 or Underdark Overbright...

>>9767386
I'd like a proper final level/boss.
I know the whole point is just to play some cool maps, but the fact they bothered to congratulate you for 100% completion but put no effort into it feels like a missed opportunity.

post your fps waifu

>>9767441
>Star Trek Elite Force III never ever

>>9767441
It's been a while, but most likely one of the Timesplitters girls.
Man that was a time to grow up in, half the female cast had tits the size of their head or some amazing hips/ass.
Imagine them trying to make a character in an FPS like this now.

>>9767441

>>9767441
Probably Mara, but I never really thought about that. When I think about retro waifus TPS, RPG and Adventure games were way ahead.
Assassin from Hexen 2, Crash from Quake 3 and various UT girls are the only other good FPS picks that I can think of.
Oh, and Ophelia.

>>9767441
dont judge me.

>>9767551
I won't, but God and Doomguy absolutely will.

>>9767441
The only western game character i can recall that stood out as beautiful was Elizabeth from Bioshock. Most of the time they look just ugly or like retarded bimbos.

>>9766468
I think Quake 1 is better than Doom 1, but Doom II is better than Quake with the expanded enemy roster. Quake 1 seriously needed something like that, but thankfully mods picked up the slack and this is just a nonissue for me now.

>>9766301
it's quake 2 26 anniversary now

>>9767441
>was: Joanna Angel, Q3 girls
>now: HD lass
>>9766468
One thing I wasn't expecting was how much I'd come around to loving Quake 2, especially since I used to shit on it in these and other threads a few years back.

>>9767551
Nah that's respectable.

>>9767457
That's just an insult to the real Lt. Malone.

>>9767683
Damn did she always look that bad? My memories of TS on the PS2 look way better.

>>9767683
That's a nice classy look

>>9767686
Probably because you were running it with blurry-ass composite video on a 20" CRT, and that screenshot will be taken either out of an emulator or by video capture from a much clearer component output.

>>9767441

working on my mod's campaign map a lil bit, finally making the lobby of the player's apartment complex they live in
https://streamable.com/ta2ege

>>9767696
>REKKRsion.png

Friday Night Firefight is up, running bourgdm.wad this time with vrsounds and litespree. Use Zandronum 3.1 to connect.
51.161.34.159:10666

MOH or COD?

>>9767764
Never played any of them, but Medal of Honor of course.

>>9767764
Soldier of Fortune.

>>9766251
I scored higher on my AP World History exam in High School than GPT-4 did

>>9765228
Do I fundamentally misunderstand Blood: Fresh Supply or is the game simply not for me?
I love Doom (I, II, 64), I love Wolfenstein 3D, I love Quake, Duke Nukem 3D, Shadow Warrior... I've played a shit ton of WADs, I've played a boat load of new boomer shooters but Blood... I don't get that game man. And not even in the way that you'd think like me saying that I beat the first Episode and I don't know if I should continue - I get so utterly bored of the game when I open the castle/whatever with the Skeleton Key that I'm starting to think that the issue lies within me... I don't know if it's the fact that the first three robed retards I see are all hitscanners, I don't know if it's the fact that Zombies do like 20% of my Health in one hit, or just that the Pitchfork and Flare Gun suck mondo ass but I can't be bothered to play for more than 5 minutes... Am I approaching the game wrong? Does anyone here have a dislike for it?

>>9767831
Blood is more akin to games like the original Castlevania or even F-Zero. A lot of the appeal comes from being BTFO and then remembering how and why you got BTFO. You'll need to take a moment to remember the enemy placement, the map layout, etc.

It does feel different than Doom under the surface of them both being 90s FPS games. It's harder than Doom for sure.

>>9767831
Maybe you just don't like the theme or aesthetics of the game, I love it but I wouldn't say it's perfect either. I like how safisfying most weapons feel (except the pitchfork, but I only really use it for zombies when I don't have explosives), especially the dynamite and the rocket launcher. I enjoy fighting the turbo hitscan cultists, but the problem is there aren't challenging enemies other than them, which is especially visible in some of the levels in Episode 2 not having many cultists leading to the levels feeling much easier than the rest. I don't like the bullet sponge minibosses, but at least it can be remedied by saving electric ammo and voodoo dolls just for them. Feels weird you wouldn't like it since you enjoy Shadow Warrior, which I personally find to be the most similar game to it. Although I guess a major factor in that would be the fact that hitscan attacks aren't as much of a threat in this game.

>>9767831
What Doom/Quake/build games don't do is scale enemy health to the difficulty, and they don't spike their accuracy and damage like Blood does with its enemies. But you're playing it through Fresh Supply where you can customize it to your liking, might just not be for you like people who don't like Raimi but love Carpenter.

Im playing ironwail but im not sure what the setting gun distortion does. Is that just like the gun viewmodel or something?

Are there any Vanilla Compatible Doom ports that allow freelook, but keep the limitations of Vanilla Doom auto aim? That is to say, the freelook is aesthetic only, and does not alter game-play. There are times it would be useful.

Using a prompt from /v/'s recommended games wiki, I used chat GPT to create a foundation for a 90s FPS "AIRLOCK"

https://pastebin.com/hDyMiVfs

Literally what the fuck happened this. Is has a fucking Romero map

>>9767703
Looks like Marvel's Rouge from the X-men.

>>9767734
Props to the janitor for making the mirror shine.

>>9767831
Let me guess, you're playin on well done mode (hard).
The game basically starts like a survival horror where you need to think tactically and conserve ammo as much as possible. It only starts playing more like a normal shooter halfway through the first episode. Well done exacerbates this because the enemies have faster reaction times and more health - you basically need to know the enemy positions beforehand to get by. Play on normal or even easy mode for your first playthrough.

>>9767831
Blood's not a run 'n' gun, you need to have a plan before peeking around a corner, use crouch to hide behind benches (it also gives a hidden hitscan evasion bonus), and learn to hit flares and TNT and use weapon alt fires
Lightly broiled should be beatable casually, i.e. having a general idea where thigns are from practice but without an exact plan, especially with quicksaves

>>9767970
>Is has a fucking Romero map
When was that announced?

>>9767441

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6HJe01xmj4

>>9765228
Okay, so I finally pushed my wad "Zero Brightness" from Beta to 1.0.
Changes:
-Bug fixes.
-All levels were reworked and rebalanced towards the survival horror playstyle.
-Fifth and eighth levels were remade from scratch and now are actual full-scale maps, rather than slaughter arenas they were initially.
-Two extra secret levels were added into the mod, making it 11 levels long if you manage to find all secret maps.
-Additional soundtracks and graphics.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/132422-zero-brightness-10/

>>9768084
Improved your image brah

>>9767970
>Literally what the fuck happened this
I'd bet my year's salary it's being integrated into the Remaster.

>>9768145
With logos

>>9766818
Here's the differences in each difficulty for RTCW:

>Don't Hurt Me:
High enemy pain chance. Low enemy accuracy. Slow enemy wind-ups. High health and ammo from pickups.
>Bring Em' On:
Low enemy pain chance. Low enemy accuracy. Slow enemy wind-ups. Low health and ammo from pickups.
>I am Death Incarnate
Low enemy pain chance. High enemy accuracy. Fast enemy wind-ups. Low health and ammo from pickups.

All the changes listed above are subtle, but they do affect the feel of the combat in a noticeable way. There are no changes to enemy counts or their tankiness. Those are the same across the board. If you want a recommendation, play on Don't Hurt Me. It'll be the most enjoyable for a first-time playthrough. RTCW is already a challenging game even on the easiest difficulty.
If you ever want to change the difficulty mid-playthrough, you can type into the in-game console "/g_gameskill 1" for Don't Hurt Me, "g_gameskill 2" for Bring Em' On, or "g_gameskill 3" for I am Death Incarnate. Follow that command up with "/vid_restart" to confirm the difficulty change.

>>9767441
sorry faggots, I'm taking the car too

>>9767441

alk_pillars is kicking my ass, are the rest of the maps this platforming heavy?

>>9767863
The extent to which fov affects the weapon model.
Basically a slider of cringe to based.

>>9768380
Breakdown, 17cm Fromitz Board, and Overengineering Mania are the only other ones I recall having any significant amount of platforming.

>>9768154

>>9767441

https://files.catbox.moe/5pbzds.zip
I think I'm done with my shitty mod that I'm not sure I myself will play after next week. But it was fun putting it together.

any doom mods or other classics that can be modded into a fast paced melee oriented hack and slash gameplay?

Guns arent cool and i dont care for them at all

>>9768535
>shotgun is autofire but gets a bonus when you stop firing to pump it
That's not a bad idea.

>>9765228
I know very well how here and even on DW and Doomer Boards that DoomGuy is better off not being refferred to as "Flynn Taggart", but what is the general view of calling the protagonist of Doom 3 John Kane?

>>9768547
Go back and play Arena or Daggerfall, or Morrowind, then.

>>9768553
rpg games are all a slog though

I've played brutal doom axe only w/ demon strength (whenever i can get it) and I want to replicate that experience, but without the bullet hell. I want enemies that are just as melee oriented as me

>>9768556
If everything else is melee focused, it'd get boring fast.

>>9768518
>.gba

>>9768547
They all can. Zscript lets you do literally anything.
>>9768563
Let him figure that out on his own.

>>9768563
then I'd get angry at the demons for not entertaining me and beat their heads in twice as hard

I can have fun reminiscing on it later

>>9768523
chunky creamy vomit ass

>>9768570
GMOTA. Play as Blaz.
https://combine-kegan.itch.io/gmota

>>9768575
I don't think that's going to be to his taste.

>>9768550
>John Kane, brother of Matthew Kane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CJ0UNq4Zhc

Is there a good Castlevania wad

>>9768594
Simon's Destiny

>>9768553
Thats a completely different style of game.
Not retro, but if anything he should play Elderborn. To me that game had the best implementation of first-person melee ever.

>>9767594
Didn't they do repeated passes on her specifically to make her uglier?

>>9768550
I just call them all Doomguy

>>9768595
thanks bro

>>9768613
But Doomguy, you're William J. Blazkowicz III.

anyone tried this Retroquad meme
seems pretty autistic
also lol half the featurse are locked behind a patreon paywall? for an 8-bit quake client?

>>9768691
The dude behind it is very passionate about it but man I don't know why.

>>9767441
*you're

>>9768608
iirc they only reduced her bust size, to make her less sexualized so it wouldn't conflict with the daughter theme they were going for her

>>9765784
Another small progs.dat update is up fixing a crash on Ironwail related to breakables, and a bug that was causing enemies to become alerted to the player faster than they should.
Also, the gauntlet now stuns enemies properly rather than looping their pain function. Stun chance is dependant on the enemy in question, and is less likely at higher difficulties.

>>9768691
>And finally, the last main reason why Retroquad exists. Software rendering is the only tech that will surely not suffer from hardware & drivers deprecation, the only tech you can count on to keep developing something ambitious and take your time to battle with all the roadblocks in your personal life, knowing that when you come back to it, it will still be working. Retroquad is intended to be an engine for people struggling in life, an engine that even if life slows you down and you take decades to create a game, it will still work as intended. With software rendering you can say goodbye to planned obsolescense, and never have to worry about being able to keep up with hardware and software upgrades.

I'm not sure what to think about an engine that has "nervous breakdown" baked into the mission statement.

>>9768814
He's always been transparent about his life. Dude went bankrupt 4 or so years ago and struggles to support his wife and child. I think he's doing better but that blurb is to say when your life goes to shit, you can always return to that software project of yours.

>>9768348
Has anyone ever made a DOOM spinfusor?
Because DOOM needs a spinfusor.

Playing with Anon's heretic AI expansion. Trying to make it crisper, and the details make sense/match with the OG art in some capacity.
Might keep working on it if I can get to my computer time to time.

>>9768882
His back is obviously all destroyed, as far as detail goes. Just need a clean base to add some anatomy. The only things I spent time on were the face and helmet strap, so far.

>>9768853
Alright but I'm still trying to figure out why this exists, besides the developer needing something to do

>>9768885
I used it once for 15 minutes, but I think as a programmer having written your own engine being in your portfolio probably looks pretty good for other jobs. Maybe he just likes 8-bit stuff. Drop him a line, he's a nice dude.

>>9768872
If you've got the sprites I can make the code.

Pondering some dehacked monster ideas for Doom, wondering if these are possible without Zscript advanced fuckery that I'm ignorant of.
Is there a way to frankenstein together following features of states:
-imp/knight/baron melee state behaviour where they fire a range projectile when melee range check fails
-mancubus/cybie volley state
-hitscanner random aim offset behaviour

The end result I want is a fast enemy that gets close for a melee state and then unleashes a rapid but inaccurate flamethrower-like spray attack.

Another:
-mancubus/cybie volley state
-mancubus predefined missile aim offset behaviour
-revenant faux 50/50 chance missile type behaviour

The end result I seek is that monster fires a fan of projectiles, for example starting at 40% offset, then 30%, 20%, 10%, 0%. Revenant behaviour to have them alternate the same volley attack from left and right. The intended effect being that they can pressure and punish circlestrafing by firing a "predictive" fan of projectiles to corral the player to change strafing direction.

>>9768898
What kind of dehacked you are looking for? Because MBF21 is quite a lot more flexible compared to vanilla.

>>9768898
SHAKE IT CYBIE

>>9768872
>>9768895
How would you differentiate it from RL? Projectiles inherit your velocity?

>>9768906
MBF21, yes. Sorry.

>>9768908
For one, it'd let you "rocket jump" without damaging yourself as much as with a rocket.
So maybe less splash damage than a rocket but greater direct hit damage.

>>9768908
Yes, and less self damage but more self impulse. Obviously made to be used with mouselook.

>>9768898
>imp/knight/baron melee state behaviour where they fire a range projectile when melee range check fails
no
>hitscanner random aim offset behaviour
no
>The end result I want is a fast enemy that gets close for a melee state and then unleashes a rapid but inaccurate flamethrower-like spray attack.
You could have them fire the flame spray every time, but not contingent on a melee fail. It will only be as inaccurate as a manc is normally.

>revenant faux 50/50 chance missile type behaviour
yes. you could make a manc projectile have a chance of heat seeking.

>>9768259
Thanks, actually having a good time on the middle difficulty so far, the flamethrower skeletons have a lot of HP, but everything else dies to a good headshot or two, or a well-timed grenade
You just hitscan the hitscanners before they hitscan you, I don't even see their pain states because I aim for the head

>>9768910
MBF21 lets you change melee attack range and it also will let you create custom projectile and stack whatever set of attacks you want, inaccurate if necessary.

>>9768281
AIN'T GONNA FORGIVE WARNER BROTHERS

A DOOM mod/wad with a jetpack and all of the Tribes weapons and levels designed for the jetpack could possibly not suck.

>>9768926
>muh slopes

>>9768926
>taking out 20-30 imps/zombiemen with a single mortar
I can only get so hard.

>>9768918
oops, missed this >>9768910

Then idunnolol

>>9768927
I wouldn't expect skiing out of it, but if someone pulled that off that would be incredible and Cacoward-worthy.

>>9768281
my
NIGGA
look at that modelling and texture work.
modern games are gay

>>9767831
The game is actually insanely hard on higher difficulties, anything beyond lightly broiled is actually a meme.
The UV equivalent is actually lightly broiled, but customized with max enemy count. This way you get a very fair difficulty, and a lot of enemies.
You also need to learn how to and throw a lot of dynamite. The whole game is balanced around that, basically, you throw in a stick of dynamite after opening a door, without even looking, it will kill something 80% of the time
You peek around a corner, see some hitscanning fuckers, quickly throw some dynamite and go back into the corner, and after it explodes, you kill the remaining ones
It's basically a hitscanning competition, just shoot them quickly before they shoot you
The flare is great for robed cultists and zombies

>>9767831
I have many issues with the game as well but holy fuck the feel and feedback of dynamite tossing is divine.

>>9767441
wtf is this
isn't that an NPC from RtCW? why is she in quake

>>9768950
Raven Keep minisode/mod built using Arcane Dimensions as a base.
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/ravenkeep.html
It was pretty big on release but I'm not sure why it hasn't achieved classic Quake status.

am I the only one that thinks the quaddicted logo looks gay and fetishy and weird? like hookery and slutty, the neon doesn't help

>>9768959
That's kinda the point yeah. Quake straight into your veins.

>>9768956
>I'm not sure why it hasn't achieved classic Quake status.
Because it's not that great.
>t. played through it today

>>9768965
I haven't played it since release but I remember enjoying my time with it. Maybe I'll see later.

>>9768956
I see, thanks

>>9768691
for some reason it doesn't work in my i7 920 and also
>2 gb

>>9768938
the facial animation is also excellent

>>9768956
>I'm not sure why it hasn't achieved classic Quake status
I remember it ran like absolute shit when it came out

>>9768898
I am still confused about your description, but from what I can discern you might be interested in
>MeeleeRange parameter to force monster jump to meelee state at arbitrary distance
>A_JumpIfTargetCloser will jump to somewhere if target is closer
>A_MonsterProjectile which lets you launch an arbitrary thing and specify angles and offsets

>>9768919
Yeah, those flamethrower zombies are total bullet sponges. It's a shame the grenades do piss all in the damage and blast radius department (something every mod ever made for the game buffs), but at least they're not totally useless since you can hold down the fire button to cook them, timing the explosion by letting it go after the 3rd or 4th click. If you haven't figured it out already, you can stay scoped in with your rifle while moving if you hold down caps lock to walk. Should help a lot with some of the levels coming up.

>>9767734
Looks nice.
>>9767831
>Am I approaching the game wrong? Does anyone here have a dislike for it?
Like some other anons before here, I would assume you just picked higher difficulty for your first playthrough. Blood is great, but can be pretty hard if you're not prepared for what's to come.
>>9768691
Seems interesting, but never got around to trying it.
>>9768814
>>9768853
Yeah, Retroquad's author had it pretty rough.
>>9768885
>besides the developer needing something to do
As if that's not a good enough reason on itself.
>>9768887
>Maybe he just likes 8-bit stuff.
Well, he clearly does.

>>9769007
>As if that's not a good enough reason on itself.
Ok, now tell me why I should *pay money* to play some guy's 8-bit Quake client (that apparently installs to 9gb)

Kinda feeling an existential quandary fellas. I have ideas for retro fps type games I'd like to get to within the next few years, first some other goals in the way, but it occurs to me: The inundation of classic style shooters today, what are the chances something like Ultrakill is going to be remembered as fondly as Quake, or Half-Life, or the other games we revere as classics? I don't just want to make "another" classic style shooter. Gives me conniptions.

What are some contemporary shooters you'd consider even marginally close to being a classic we'll remember?

>>9769014
I'm convinced people buy retro fps games just to be noticed, their ratings are also biased as fuck
it's like the arena fps croud that never shows up when an actual arena shooter is released

>>9769006
Yeah, I walk by default

now you remember the quake awards

>>9768917
>mouselook.
Go back.

>>9767652
Isn't that Elizabeth from Bishock Infinite, particularly from stealth dlc?

>>9769012
You don't have to waste your money on it. I'm pretty sure there're some public releases if you want to check it out... That's the thing though. If you want to.
It seems like you just don't care about Retroquad (nothing wrong with that) and simply want to have an excuse to complain, so why bother? I'm sure you must have something better to do with your free time, in case you really need someone to tell you what to do next.
Anyhow, just in case:
https://www.moddb.com/engines/retroquad/downloads
>>9769014
>what are the chances something like Ultrakill is going to be remembered
To me, it seems like that Ultrakill got largely popular due to memes and that's probably how it will be remembered.
>I don't just want to make "another" classic style shooter. Gives me conniptions.
Look at what's out there. Pick types of FPS you personally enjoy and roll with whatever you like. Going into this with the mindset of "I want to be the big popular thing" doesn't seem quite right: you might be able to pull this off, but would this be fun?
You definitely need to go outside of "DOOM & Quake" zone. Look for something more niche in comparison.
>What are some contemporary shooters you'd consider even marginally close to being a classic we'll remember?
I would say Ion Fury will be somewhere up there for sure. Maybe Dusk and WRATH (once it gets full release) too. HROT might be more on a niche side.

>>9769148
>It seems like you just don't care about Retroquad
WHY AM I SUPPOSED TO??
Jesus. Can you just explain that? WTF is so good about it? Why would anyone want to download it? What's the point?
>the guy has emotional problems therefore ... profit??? please like and subscribe!

>>9769129
How else are you gonna rocket jump instead of rocket backstep.
DUMPASS

>>9768380
Pillars is the only one where the platforming is actually hard.
Just savescum. Most of Alkaline is gigantic anyway and the final fight of that map isn't even remotely fair in its current state.

>>9765228
https://twitter.com/Darsycho/status/1639579625578692609

I thought I'd be done with Quake after Alkaline, but now I'm trying out as many high-rated maps on Quaddicted as possible and still having a good time.

>>9768281
Where is this from?

>>9769243
no one lives forever

>>8061128

>>9768556
Action Doom 2: Urban Brawl
also, not retro but play Dark Messiah of Might & Magic

>>9769014
One major difference I find annoying with the new blooming "boomer shooter" genre as opposed to retro shooters is just how fucking over the top twitchy fast the new games are. Quake and the likes are fast-paced sure, but not ten different movement dash, rocketjump, grappling hook, bounce off walls while doing backflips abilities fast like the new ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoPd2v_EPvY

GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS. IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? MAPS, MODS, SPRITES? NOW'S A GOOD TIME TO POST THAT SHIT

>>9769390
I've been expanding and revising my MBF21 bestiary this week. Recorded a video of try each of them in sequence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5iEAg3rsu8

Damn that was fun. I'm actually starting to be okay with Copper. It might have issues with ammo shortages, but some of the monster changes are neat.
This map also had the only useful Ring of Shadows secret I've ever encountered.

>>9769390
>>9768535

>>9768547
It's not exactly fast paced, but you might enjoy Dark Messiah for good melee fps combat, if you haven't played it already that is. There's also the Demon Steele mod for Doom which you might enjoy even more.

DAYUMN...WE'RE GONNA NEED SOME NEW LAB TECHNICIANS!

Seal of Nehahra is way better than any right it should be, and it's very charming. How is the game itself?

>>9769390
Also working on my own MBF21 monster, just some small tweaks to him now along with a short boss map to introduce him.
https://streamable.com/nqaw5q

>>9768898
You can do everything you asked for with mbf21. Check out Ad Mortem for an example of how to make a custom melee/projectile combo attack. Read the documentation.
https://github.com/kraflab/mbf21/blob/master/docs/spec.md
>>9768959
I agree completely. The first time I went to quaddicted I thought I was on the wrong site because of how pink and sparkly it was. If I were their graphic designer I would've rejected it just for clarity's sake.

>>9769192
Relax, anon. Go for a walk or something.
>WHY AM I SUPPOSED TO??
You're not supposed to. Nobody forces you to download or like some random Quake source port. I don't know why you are having a mental breakdown over it, unless that's just a bait...
>Why it exists?
>Because developer wanted to create it.
>Why should I pay for it?
>You don't have to, there're free releases and you don't need to download them if you don't want to.
>Why should I like it?
Yeah, that's just a bait.

>>9768959
There's a reason I link people interested in Quake mods to Slipseer, and it's not Slipseer's awful politics. They have to actively look at the rules or the forum to see the cancer infesting that place, but one look at the Quaddicted banner will be enough to scare many people off. The first time I saw it I honestly thought it was either a joke, the site had been hacked or they were doing some kind of gay pride thing.

>>9769674
>Slipseer's awful politics
What's up with Slipseer exactly? I still use quaddicted, so I know nothing about it.

>>9769851
I'll keep it brief since drama is rightfully frown upon and modded here, but it's basically a site created by some newbies who made up some weird accusations against Quaddicted's owner and made their own Quaddicted with blackjack and hookers.
No clue what their beef with him was, but it came across as a power grab/cancellation so it left a bad taste in my mouth.

>>9767441
>when your .MDL has as much polys as an avereage 2001-era .MD3

>>9769674
yeah, looks weird and pozzed, trashy, like a tramp stamp, or the sissy hypnosis videos retards make
it looks like the logo has hiv or something
maybe the guy that made it has an unironic fucking quake fetish

>>9769928
With a name like Quaddicted it's most likely >>9768962, stop finding things to overanalyze and get upset about.

>>9769932
I'm not upset about it, it just looks gross and sleazy

>>9769851
For me it's their hatred of Quake 2.

>>9769207
looks cool
what are the placeholders besides the obvious red sign?

>>9769941
This. I'm used to it now, but at a first glance it looks like the sort of thing you'd see in a site for gay drug addicts. It just doesn't suit Quake, even though it becomes obvious with time that it's supposed to visualise the Quake Injector program.
Speaking of which, does anyone use that? I find it simple enough to just unzip the files, shove them in my Quake folder and set up the Quaddicted shortcut.

>>9770017
*Quakespasm shortcut.

>>9770017
>Speaking of which, does anyone use that? I find it simple enough to just unzip the files, shove them in my Quake folder and set up the Quaddicted shortcut.
nope and same, shortcuts seem more practical to me.

>>9767740

>>9770017
>>9769928
>>9769674
I agree that their website should finally update their logo (I remember seeing it first around 2008-9, so maybe it's high-time to do so already?), but trying to bait jannies into deleting your complaints might be counter-intuitive, especially when Spirit himself have admited to be lurking here - this graphic honestly should've been retooled as the new Quaddicted back when the QuakeInjector was just brand new

>>9770135
I wasn't trying to bait anyone, I was just saying how awful and unfitting the banner looked.
I'd still use Quaddicted over the other site that was clearly made out of spite any day.

>>9768959
>am I the only one that thinks the quaddicted logo looks gay and fetishy and weird?
No and I love it

>>9768550
I have no problem with Flynn "Fly" Taggart as a name.

Redpill me on Heretic and Hexen. Just started playing, having an absolute fucking blast, but I don't know if there's anything I SHOULD be knowing before going further in.
For example, I seemed to fare much better when Melee attacking everything with my cane (or the butt end of the staff?) than with the Necromancer Gloves that are for whatever reason dubbed a secret. Also, I seem to be retarded as I don't quite understand what the blue vials do. Finally, what determines the trajectory of my staff attacks?

>>9770191
Heretic is just Doom with magic instead of bullets.

>>9770195
Well aware of that fact, but at the very least melee seems to be way more useful here than in Doom

>>9770191
>but I don't know if there's anything I SHOULD be knowing before going further in.
To start, how much do you know about Hexen? That could be the more polarizing one.

>>9770201
I thought it would have been identical, but it has a high damage floor than Doom's fists. However, the max damage is the same.

>>9770191
One tip for Heretic is that you only keep one of every item when going to the next level, so better make use of those spare books. Episodes 4 and 5 will be much harder than the rest of the game. Unlike Doom the hardest difficulty levels in Heretic and Hexen aren't as gimmicky, in case of Heretic I know it's basically fast monsters + double ammo. Hexen is more about exploration and switch hunting rather than combat so you might enjoy Heretic but Hexen not so much.

>>9770191
>heretic
the second best 1994 fps after marathon
>hexen
the second best 1995 fps after dark forces

>>9770216
Gauntlets are also more useful than chainsaw because with a tome they basically make you invincible due to absurd health stealing rate.

>>9769436
What's this? Reminded me of Q3DM6 for a second.

>>9770209
Besides it collecting dust in my Steam library for well over a year or two now and it being "Doom but magic", I know nothing of the game.

>>9770217
Spare books?

>>9770219
Never heard of either, will probably play both after beating the trilogy several times.

>>9770223
Purifier.
Supposedly it was someone's first map, and it's pretty good. It's not some gigantic AD style thing, but it's still fun and feels fresher than the original maps or anything Machine Games has produced so far.

>>9770223
Forgot the link.
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/purifier.html

>>9770191
>Heretic
Just an ok Doom clone. In certain aspects too similar to Doom for it's own good. Like things you mentioned:
>I seemed to fare much better when Melee attacking everything with my cane (or the butt end of the staff?) than with the Necromancer Gloves
That's because, just like chainsaw, gauntles work weirdly, plus they don't have enough power to reliably stunlock enemies. They're great with Tome of Power though (book with a skull in your inventory), try it.
>I don't quite understand what the blue vials do
Those restore 10 points of health.
>what determines the trajectory of my staff attacks?
You're talking about starter weapon, right? It acts EXACTLY like Doom's pistol, which means your shots get a random spread if you hold down a fire button. If you release button for a moment between each shot, then it should be 100% accurate.
>Hexen
You should be REALLY into exploration to like Hexen. Combat is very lackluster compared to Heretic, and if you don't like searching every nook and cranny for several switches to progress, then it's not for you. The first hub is one of the harder ones (in terms of puzzles, not enemies), so at least you'll learn soon whether you like this or not.

>>9770229
>Besides it collecting dust in my Steam library for well over a year or two now and it being "Doom but magic", I know nothing of the game.
If Heretic is “Doom but magic”, Hexen is “Heretic but Gauntlet” with an emphasis on traveling back and forth through levels and hubs. It’s also separated into three classes each with four weapons, it really shines in coop.
Hexen will either feel fresh after Doom and Heretic or contrived and irritating. >>9770289 is right on the nose about it.

>>9768959
>>9769674
Jesus christ dude. Its obviously ironic you fucking autist. The joke is the heart contrasts with the completely grim style of quake. If you see that and get offended and start thinking about gay fetish sex, thats your problem.

>>9770191
You like the staff? The gauntlets do more damage per second and can stunlock some enemies.
The only problem could be that they attract you toward the enemy like doom's chainsaw. You can counteract this by lightly tapping backwards while using it to make sure you dont end up getting a facefull of counterattack.

>Also, I seem to be retarded as I don't quite understand what the blue vials do
Health.

>>9770391
no one here's offended, retard, I just pointed out it looks sleazy and weird, which it does, not even calling out fags specifically, but that also springs to mind now that you mention it

>>9770424
You don't want to think of it as being offended because thats what sjw's are, but you guys are clearly offended at having to see a pink heart.

>>9770430
what the fuck are you talking about retard
what do pink hearts have to do with being "offended"? are you sure "we" are the ones getting "offended"? what do sjws have to do with anything being discussed here?
what do you mean by "we", anyway, entities that live in your head rent free?
all I said was that it looked weird and you're still seething about it, are you the guy that designed the logo or something? It looks sleazy and tasteless as shit

>>9768959
yeah, quaddicted is secretly a gay dating site, sorry you had to find out this way

>>9770452
I'm seething? I was annoyed because you guys were having a whole conversation seething about gay sex and prostitutes surrounding a fucking ironic pink logo. I didnt start the conversation, and i probably wouldnt have even replied if there was just one post about it.
>what do you mean by "we", anyway, entities that live in your head rent free?
...What? Who would i be referring to? Obviously you or the poster brought all this up. I cant refer to anyone by name since it's an anonymous website - pretty simple concept. You dont seem to be able to easily connect any related concepts in a conversation.

shut up

after playing a few large quake maps I'm starting to appreciate the original quake maps more, maybe is the lack of enemy variety but short and sweet is the way to go for me.

>>9770289
>The first hub is one of the harder ones (in terms of puzzles, not enemies)
I never got why people say that Seven Portals is hard, when it's the most braindead hub. You go into relatively small levels and stuff just happens, so even if you're a meathead, you can just brute force it. Guardian of Steel is slightly confusing, I guess.

>>9770530
The problem is probably that players dont understand the game's design that early on. If they get farther, then they start to understand what to expect and what to do.
Also some of the later hubs have those helpful icons showing you which levels are finished and which still have stuff to do.

>>9769390
Just another sewer map in the making

>>9770467
The banner is actually fitting, then.

>>9769493
Is it still catching projectiles when invisible?

>>9769414
Did you make all these yourself anon? Look great.

>>9769481
>How is the game itself?
I assume it runs fine if you launch it using the version of Darkplaces it comes with. Running it on later ones causes the lights to fuck up, and Ironwail crashes immediately because of sprite versioning issues.

>>9768113
I played and loved Total Chaos so this is a welcome experiment, to make the player dependent on light sources while still being doom. The blue key pit in map 5 is the highlight to me, quintessential survival horror situation of "see that shitty dark pit? yeah you gotta go in there". A less charitable mapper would have definitely put 3 archviles in there
Map 6 is where it becomes unbeatable in hideous destructor to all but the most autistic micromanaging explosives and turrets but that's only to be expected. A complete lack of hp bonuses and soul spheres also makes the hell knight population a bit painful. I used a cheated supply of Ugly As Sin flares to see and made a point not to start with a flashlight and to find one in a map but it wasn't as OP as I thought it would be

>>9770191
>Hexen
Pick the class based on your interest. Since you seemingly really enjoy melee combat, Fighter is probably going to be your first choice. There's a good reason to pick different class in next playthrough (if you would want to go for it) as maps will have different emeny placement based on your character + some items behave differently for each class.
>>9770530
>I never got why people say that Seven Portals is hard
I had no issue with Seven Portals on my first playthrough... except some broken script(?) that didn't open the final gate after completing everything (besides secret map). Played on DOSBox, that was likely an issue. Didn't had that problem on my recent-ish second playthrough where I used a source port.

>>9770657
I didn't do sprites, only their behaviour.

>>9770191
me on the right but nogf

>>9769390
Rough animation test, just making sure the 'fans' on the flash align and don't look like total shit. Gonna clean it up and add a blue sheen over the gun and the hands, maybe copy some blue arcs of lightning from the original plasma or something.

>>9770507
BSP2 maps without shortcuts/teleports are such a pain in the dick to comb-thru for leftover secrets - half of SMEJ and most of TerShib is a prime example of that problem

>>9770750
Looks like it's made of rubber, maybe offsets will help, but right now it just looks jiggly.

>>9770767
Yeah, I noticed, I'll be redoing the recoil frames, those were just some quick warping.

In about 20 minutes (5pm us central) I'll be hosting Serious Business Saturday again. We'll be playing a map called The Dark Side of Sirius, if you want to download it early grab it here: https://maska322.itch.io/the-darkside-of-sirius

>Played through Dimension of the Past because I remembered I never got around to it
Well that was... underwhelming. Some tough levels, but god the music was annoying. One of the final maps made me feel like I was developing schizophrenia for how fucked up and weird the music was.
Found Dopefish in the second to last level though, that was cool.

>>9770750
neat

>>9770639
No, it's actually not even solid.

>>9770817
DotP had a custom soundtrack?

>>9770783
Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for some Serious Business Saturday! Pack your bags because we'll be traveling to the dark side of Sirius today. It's going to be a long trip, maybe. Grab the map here: https://maska322.itch.io/the-darkside-of-sirius
Also, the classics patch just got an update that adds more HUD customization features. It's not required to join but some of its new features might tickle your fancy.
>IP (join via specify server): 45.79.57.115
>Highly recommended to install the classics patch: https://dreamycecil.itch.io/sam-exe-patch if you haven't already. Adds a bunch of nice features like better resolution support and hud scaling. Make sure you grab the most recent TSE1.07 patch and after installing launch the game with "SeriousSam_Custom.exe"
>Go into the Scripts\NetSettings folder inside your main TSE directory and open up the DSLCable.ini file. Change "cli_iMaxBPS" to 1000000. Then when connecting to the server MAKE SURE YOU SELECT DSL/CABLE CONNECTION.
>Upon loading into the main menu, type: "/cli_iMaxPredictionSteps=4" (no quotes) into the console. You only have to do this once. If you encounter any problems with this setting then try changing it to a higher number up to around 10.

>>9770859
Yes and it's horrible. The base sections are fine, the get generic metal sounding stuff, but fuck me the dark lovecraftian world gets awful unfitting music that sounds more like someone experimenting because they knew it wouldn't sound anywhere near as good as Trent Reznor.

Drawing more 16x16 pixel art for my Doom games.
SIGIL's looks shitty; but I have no idea what to draw there.
Here's my games menu. There are way more games installed, but I'm filling in the menu as I draw more icons.

>>9770869
Have you ever used SonicMayhem's Methods of Destruction as an alternate soundtrack?
How does it fare compared to NIN?

>>9770892
What is this in?

>>9770905
Perhaps I should have, dopa's custom soundtrack ranged from tolerable to awful.

>>9770861
A short and sweet map pack, just how we like it. Thanks to everyone who joined!
I messed up again and didn't save the group photo, so have this minecraft secret instead.

Quake bros, I'm having a retard moment.
Does Quake 2 not use fullbrights like Quake 1 does? How do light textures work, brightmaps?

>he didn't play the Die Hard fps games
ngmi

>>9768145
QUACK!

happy birthday to me, lads

>>9771272
happy birthday anon

>>9771272

>>9771278
Semi unrelated, but how come there's something of a Doom scene in Japan when FPS games in general aren't as big over there?

It's rather uncanny, fellows.

>>9771296
Same reason there's Touhou stuff coming out of the west. It's a niche subject that appeals to certain Japanese people.

whenever I play quake I get cravings for chocolate based products.

>>9771307
Nesquake?

>>9771272

>>9771296
Play Jumping Flash, it's basically a japanese-made FPS series

>>9765980
>fur

>>9771272
Happy birthday, Anon

>>9771272
happy birthday, motherfucker.

>>9771272
Happy birthday you cool motherfucker.

>Like weapon set
>its stuck in shitty total conversions like moonman and grezzo
i swear i will learn slade so i can just extract the weapons from wads and use them standalone

>>9771384
No time like the present.

>>9771272
count 'em

>>9771384
Most of the weapons in both mods are taken from realm667 or outright stolen from other mods. You can find a good chunk of those weapons in isolated WADs here. https://www.realm667.com/en/armory-mainmenu-157-97317/doom-style-mainmenu-158-94349

>>9771272
happy bday dude

>>9771384
Go ahead. The tools are super convenient.

>>9768113
This is pretty sick.

>>9770817
Machine Games have said they wanted to do a Quake reboot, and id has been dropping some rather unsubtle hints that they acknowledge the fan desire for the series to come back in it’s original, more serious, dark fantasy atmosphere. I can’t know which company will develop it, or if it’ll be some joint venture, but any hopes I have are firmly buried in a crypt. Doom Eternal’s backstory and weapon balancing went off the rails by the end of the second expansion, and the later Wolfenstein games became flaming landfills whose titles I can’t even remember. Even if they tried staying true to, and expanding upon, the things that were present in the original, the two Dimension episodes MG made show me they don’t understand what makes Quake’s combat fun, or how to use the bestiary properly, and if they translated it to a modern game, it’d probably be a consolized compromise that cribs from nudoom while having some gimmicks to set it apart.
One of those levels in DotM involved walking through repeat corridors while blasting lone enforcers with the double shotgun, and occasionally fighting lone shamblers that would hide behind doors.

Anybody know how to disable tiltbob in AVP2000?

>>9771439
i wonder what it would look like to have /vr/ play hideous destructor

just curious, how many /vr/ group mapping sessions have crashed and burned?

also what is 94 protons.

>>9771464
bear in mind it's not for zandronum like a lot of SNS mods are, GZDoom has almost non-existent multiplayer functionality if you're not on a LAN

>>9771449
Yeah, the more I think about my time with DotP the less enjoyable it was.
>Death Knights, Death Knights everywhere
>a few bullshit instakill traps with no way to know one is around, encouraging contant saving
>Moments where you're force switched to an explosive weapon the moment you get into close combat situations
>So many cramped corridors with armies of the aforementioned Death Knights filling them
>Low ammo. The final fight involved shotgunning two Shamblers because I had nothing left.
>The terrible music
It's still Quake, but there are much less bland and annoying mapsets to play than this.
I can't play Dimension of the Machine because I don't have the remaster, but I do hear it's better for the most part.

>>9771464
>>/vr/thread/S9153901#p9154074
Fumbling with GZD's arcane networking and trying to get everyone on the same page in a quick amount of time through an imageboard that has a 1-minute post cooldown and a period of time before new posts are shown. It did end up working however, and it was very fun.

>>9771486
All the levels I can remember from Past felt like they were churned out by someone working under a tight deadline, or by someone who was a professional level designer but had no deeper understanding of Quake's intricacies. Large, sparse, plain areas with small groups of the same enemy scattered around. And I certainly do remember running out of ammo near the end. Maybe they intended for the player to melee bait everything and use the axe.

>>9771464
It wasn't the worst, but not having voice comms is rough.

>>9771272
Happy birthday anon! May your birthday be joyous and hope you have a good time celebrating with family and friends.

>>9771550
why is that controller smoking?

i kinda want to start a shadow warrior group mapping project now...

>>9771552
Very intense playing.
Friction from rubbing it.. ?

>>9771560
when is this game gonna get multiplayer?

>>9769390
Nothing flashy with this crude beam whip yet, but I have big dreams

>>9771570
is there a good way to showcase melee range in an FPS?

>>9771575
Probably gonna get a feel for it soon enough while playing.

>>9771575
I'll probably have some sprite based hit indicators to help with that at some point. Probably a short projectile too.

How do I make my own Doom-like game?

currenty playing Sigil, can't say I'm enjoying myself but I'll finish it eventually.

>>9771646
dont. it'll be bad, unless its a proper callback to retro fps, then do it in crispy doom, and i mean the source code.

>>9771646
If you're someone freshly getting into this, "Doom-like" could mean a bunch of things, it's been kind of pointless label to describe any sort of shooter game across the years and not all of which have much to do with Doom per se.
There's lots of resources about Doom and Doom mods in the OP to get you oriented, then you can go ahead and consider whether it is Doom that you want or something more modern.

>>9771650
he's making you his bitch?

>>9771650
>Too much damaging floor
>Narrow and annoying spaces and platforming
>Unintuitive and poorly signaled flow that leads to some frustrations, backtracking and doublechecking
>The visuals are pretty uniform in it's edgy hell visuals, I can't remember a single recognizable landmark
It's probably not "bad" by any metric but just didn't click for me either. By 90s standards it'd probably be in all sorts of greatest of all time lists but I feel mapping has matured a lot and maybe I just had expectations too high.

>>9771646
there is a unity fps tutorial in freecodecamp, at least the fullstack tutorials I've read were easy to understand

>>9771646
just build it off of GZDoom
this is a serious suggestion

>>9771725
I hated most of it, but the cyberdemon maze was pretty cool.

>>9771780
Was easy just to kill the Cyberdemon from above where his shots hit the wall in front of him.

i swear each time i update halodoom it performs worse and worse. gonna hope it gets optimized for the next official release or something.

>>9771842
Yeah, it's a damned shame because it's real fun. I slap on Babel monsters and the balance is great, little on the easy side.

>>9771902
true, true. been running it with rampancy on btsx1 myself. the former actually turned me off before because of the lack of gore, but happened to be surprisingly fun. shoulda been more open-minded i guess.

>>9771924
Yeah Rampancy is pretty neato. I'm surprised there aren't more robot enemy mods now that ZS is a thing because there's a lot that could be done with the concept.

>>9771842
>Don't know what Halodoom is
>Google it expecting some kind of gameplay mod
>I'm hit with an entire fucking TC
>On Zandronum
>With online multiplayer support in development
Holy SHIT, how am I only hearing about this now?!
>>9771924
>Halodoom + Rampancy
Sounds like a better Halo 4 than the real Halo 4.

>>9771951
It's really more of a gameplay mod honestly. That being said, it's a pretty good one, and very in-depth. Unlike most crossover mods, it's actually fun to play and doesn't look like total shit.

>>9771957
I guess it is without a campaign of its own and only bots to play with, but when multiplayer drops, I'm betting it'll be something like MM8BDM and QC:DE where it forms its own little satellite community, and I fucking yearn for that day.

>>9771951
>zandronum
>fully 3d modeled
shit like this never ceases to amaze me. whenever it looks good, at least.
i was talking about halodoom evolved, but this really is wild.
>better Halo 4 than the real Halo 4.
it is.

>>9770817
>One of the final maps made me feel like I was developing schizophrenia for how fucked up and weird the music was
Doesn't DOPA use Quake's ost?

>>9771570

What's with the Blake Stone sprites and textures?

>>9771449
>>9771486
Lol wut DOPA is Quake for super players. A really challenging episode that was sparse with ammo but knew how to use enemies. Get on my level you faggots I played it on nightmare.

>>9771519
DOPA was headed by JF Gustafsson who is one of the ground zero Quake mappers. Jesus some absolutely shitty opinions this thread.

>>9771486
>not killing almost everything with the DBS and abusing the anti-frustration quirk of starting every new level with 25 free shells
IIRC when playing DotP a few years back on Hard I plobably had collected 100 cells by map4 that I only used whenever a map tossed multiple Shamblers at me due to the abundance of Enforcers in the first 2 maps and getting all the secrets

>>9771965
Well, this is gonna take some getting used to seeing how there's like 6 configurations and 4 classes. Thanks for pointing this out to me.

>>9771980
fyi, the dev branch on github has a couple more configurations, the last of which allows to haul 4 guns at a time, if you don`t wanna deal with the unlimited arsenal jank. but it`s also intentionally busted.

>>9765228

>>9772040

>>9772042

>>9770869
>Yes and it's horrible.
Wait, since when? Because DOPA didn't really had a proper soundtrack. I would've asked if they suddenly patched something in for re-release version, but I doubt you played that one (I don't there's much differences from the original release anyway).
Are you talking about Methods of Destruction?...
>>9770905
>>9770951
Oh. I know that some folks (including me) used it as unofficial OST for Dimension of the Past. Full playlist here:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9798EB41087127AF

...and some personal picks. I think it's alright.
https://youtu.be/Qxrf0mF7J78
https://youtu.be/Bd35lw-6Z-0

>>9770892
Looking cute. What are you using to draw them?
>>9771272
Happy Birthday, anon! Have fun lurking/posting here since you probably don't have anything better to do. Go play some Quake or Marathon now.
>>9771449
My bet is that Quake would be handed over to Roundhouse Studios (new company that's made of Human Head Studios team after Rune 2's release) with Machine Games acting as a support studio. Don't know why, just a hunch.
>>9771561
Most likely never. To be fair, there's really no reason to work on multiplayer when you know it will be forgotten in a few days or a week at best.

>>9771439
>maran-ACK!

That do you guys think about Warhammer 40k Boltgun?

>>9771951
>>9771980
it's funny because the two HaloDoom projects (HaloDoom and Halo: Doom Evolved) are actually entirely separate
one's an MP-focused Zandro mod and the other's an SP-focused GZDoom mod

>>9772045
>when you know it will be forgotten
i don't care if it is or isn't forgotten desu.

and neither should you.

>>9772064
i think its gonna be bad, since its clearly aping doom eternal, and i didn't really like doom eternal.

>>9772108
>and neither should you.
Fair. I'm not against that. It would've been great to have some kind of multiplayer, especially with bots for lazy idiots with no friend.
Was just being cynical here after getting reminded of Quake's re-release and Dusk multiplayer.

>>9772135
>Dusk multiplayer
was remembered enough to get a map in QC:DE at least.

>>9772040
>>9772042
>>9772043
This looks great, tell me more.
>>9772064
Shotgun looks chunky and satisfying. It otherwise looks like it will be a “fine” 7/10, doesn’t seem like it would stand out much without the 40k IP, and I don’t know if it’s running on a thread-relevant engine.

>Check out Cacowards 2022
>first place is The Magenta Spire
>try it out
>hard as balls even on Hurt Me Plenty
>constant lack of ammo
>dying all the time
Was I always bad at this bad at DOOM

>>9771296
not that it has anything to do with doom, but they're starting to play a lot of apex for some reason

>>9772209
I look like this and I do this

>>9771967
Then I have no fucking clue why I got weird music with mine.
>>9771971
Haha what a story, Mark!
>>9771979
Honestly, I probably disliked DotP mainly because I've been playing a ton of modern maps and it felt basic and mediocre as a result. I made a mistake not playing it first, it seems.

>>9772045
It's not that music either.
I can't even remember where I downloaded it. Turns out my biggest issue with the mapset isn't even a real thing for most people. Weird.

>>9771973
Wasn't Ground Zero seen as really annoying at the time for all the traps?
I might be wrong of course.

>>9771973
>It was headed by a guy who helped make an irritating turret-filled expansion to a mediocre game 20+ years ago
I see

Getting the hang of Heretic, really enjoying this so far. I just don't know what the yellow square in the middle of the HUD represents - at one point the square below it was glowing green and I've no idea what triggered it and what's it supposed to do.

>>9772356

>>9772356
Those squares are keys

>>9772301
>>9771973
B-b-bu-but muh 1964
No really, its so damn cool

>>9772364
smooth textures and high resolutions have been industry standards since forever, if Carmack had the raw power to make the Doom engine look like that back in the day he would have. But to each his own.

Why doesn't GZDoom have a borderless windowed option?

>>9772404
no he wouldn't have you retard.
it looks like shit. he wouldn't even need romero to tell him that.

>>9772367
Lmao, makes sense. Thanks.
Now, where the fuck is the secret in this level, I think I've checked every nook and cranny and unghed every wall in existence but to no avail...

>>9772225
>I can't even remember where I downloaded it.
It's almost intriguing, actually. Just what kind of music is that and how terrible it can be. lol

>>9772405
Its fullscreen is borderless windowed. Exclusive fullscreen got removed years ago.

>>9772412

>>9772425
that looks atrocious.

>>9772428
Send your feedback to johncarmack@idsoftware.com

>>9772419
>>9772225
Was it the freeware edit of NIN's "Ghosts I-IV" (released as a replacement for the Q1 OST) by any chance?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EojUUSNjhRg

>>9772430
shut up.

>>9772404
>But to each his own.
That's the important part, the Carmack stuff is whatever. 'Filtered' vs 'non filtered' has all been personal preference to me. Only thing I don't like the look of is "high resolution" packs that go too far with too little, like any upscaled texture pack for Doom and Quake 1/2. That shit grosses me out, but not when it comes to adjust Doom 3 and Quake 4 packs.

Dissolution of Eternity is a lot more fun to me than Dimension of the Past was.
Ammo is plentiful, there are a lot of cool traps to avoid, new enemy types, it's just great all around.
Love the multi missiles and the plasma rifle. I'm shocked Arcane Dimensions and Alkaline didn't just straight up rip this version of the plasma, it's really cool.

>>9772432
Oh, well this is embarrassing. Yeah, it was that.
Wow, I don't care for Ghosts at all, it just doesn't fit with the non-techbase levels to me. I'm honestly surprised that it IS by Nine in Nails after the stuff I was saying about it.

>>9771272
Have a good one bro

>>9771272
https://youtu.be/f1RYIZQYmhY

>>9772469
it's insane how it's a 2003 game, looks amazing, the eyes add so much, the facial animations are something else
why did everything else look like shit in comparison?

>>9772405
if you are playing a game that instant switch to desktop it is using borderless widescreen by default, developers are silently removing exclusive fullscreen since some time ago

>>9772521
*windowed

>>9772521
>silently removing exclusive fullscreen since some time ago
quick rundown? this is news to me.

>>9767551
Judge you for what, your excellent taste?