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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>5688271

Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~


Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief:
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Duke Nukem, Doom, Blood, and Quake.)

Doom RPG series

Launchers for Build Engine games



Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/








>> No.5692345

=== NEWS ===

[6-22] /vr/ is hosting it's own Quake mapping project! GET IN HERE FAGETS

[6-20] Copper for Quake released: a vanilla+ mod (includes optional map pack)

[6-17] Coffee Quake released, 76 speedmaps in 4 episodes

[6-15] Guncaster 3.3 released

[6-15] Doom the Golden Souls 3 announced

[6-15] MetaDoom player feedback survey

[6-13] FUNC- Sm197 Six Textures released

[6-9] FUNC- New levels for Quake 1 & 2, Sonic Mayhem updated

[6-9] SUNDER released a new update

[6-9] Doom Eternal shown at E3

[6-9] New MetaDoom update

[6-9] Mr. Friendly updated

[6-9] Digital Foundry review about Quake 2 RTX; explains a lot of shit about the source port

[6-8] Q2 RTX Models for Q2XP

[6-8] Anon updates Smooth Doom Lite

[6-7] GZDoom 4.1.3 released

=== PREVIOUS ===


== PROTIP ==

To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.

>> No.5692352
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my quake 2 is broken now and i cant seem to fix it, even on a fresh install
its just horribly bugged out on the screen, its like the id logo is stretched out and when i try to do something its invisible and then the screen glitches out
what do
windows wont let me screenshot it so i drew what it looks like, the scribbles are empty space and the screen is blank but the id dogtag logo

>> No.5692370

are you using yamagi?

>> No.5692390

Yeah, I loaded it up quickly and they seem relatively the same?

No idea, that was Ultimate Doom + SIGIL. I'll have to give NRFTL a shot alongside TNT/Plutonia after I've finished 2

>> No.5692395

The monsters in Combined_Harms are mostly the same, they're just a little more aggressive and they all have extra attacks.
Zombiemen have a three round burst shot
Shotgunners can do a huge shell cram shotgun blast like the whiplash shotgun from Combined_Arms
Chaingunners shoot big shells that inflict knockback and then blow up later
Imps can throw arcing fireballs that travel through other imps.

Shit like that.

>> No.5692397

MDK stands for My Dic Khurt

>> No.5692405
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Reminder that our Quake mapping project is in full swing!
Deadline is August 7th the deadline is subject to change so don't get too nervous about it, just don't be a total faggot and slack off

>but anon how am I supposed to learn TrenchBroom and make a full map I can barely line two sectors together in Doombuilder

We got our first newbie going from zero to finish in just two days! you don't even need to be a neet and map straight for 24 hours, since you got plenty of time, just set your goals to something reasonable, don't try to make the next behemoth map straight out of Arcane Dimensions, set your sights in a short-medium map.
Need inspiration on how to make something bite sized and fun? check out coffee quake.

TrenchBroom is surprisingly easy to pick up, and you can get plenty of help in places where Quake mappers hang out like func_msgb, or this very thread (though most of us are also newbies), don't be afraid to post your progress!

check the FAQ fucko:

>> No.5692409

An enemy mod with an otherwise misleading name that could interest someone who wants what could be a lighter alternative to Colorfull Hell.
At least i think that.

>> No.5692421

i want to make some quake model mods, what 3d program would be the best for making them, wings3d?

>> No.5692424
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>TrenchBroom is surprisingly easy to pick up
It really did surprise me how fucking easy it is to shit out geometry in it. Now I just need to learn how to make an okay level.
Also triggers feel like you're scripting directly in a 3D level editor. Cool stuff.

>> No.5692429
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Just use Blender.
Here's a quake-style sword I made in it a while ago.
Make sure to get the quake palette for whatever program you use for texturing.

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>> No.5692443

Doom and Quake

>> No.5692446
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Douk is THE retro FPS.

>> No.5692448

If Douk is so good how come he is always out of gum?
is he poor? can't he go to the store and get more?

>> No.5692451

how many mods let you play as crash from quake 3?

>> No.5692457

Does Doom 2 get better again after the city levels?

>> No.5692458

>posts non-FPS Douk

>> No.5692460

But he didn’t start out as a retro FPS

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for the two who wanted to know about the Thief map

my bad it was for Heretic not Hexen

>> No.5692484

put an axe head on it

>> No.5692487

What’s the firefly ship doing in there

>> No.5692490

qoom and duake

>> No.5692498

I know. It's hard to believe he started out as a villain in captain planet.

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>> No.5692523
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Can /vr/ into tactics?

>> No.5692527

Is that a FAMAS?

>> No.5692532

Is making levels in trenchbroom similar to how it feels making levels in a 3d game engine like UE4?

>> No.5692534

I think it's an M14. The game's M14 model has a white finish on it. There is a FAMAS in the game, though, IIRC

>> No.5692538

put a spearpoint on it too

>> No.5692549

It's already pointy though.

>> No.5692553

but the spear is the king of the weapons

>> No.5692559

Such power should not be wielded by a single man

>> No.5692560

Yes. I love me some Rainbow Six. Make sure you check out that fanmade mod that smooshes together all of the R6 games and expansions into one exe, called "Black Ops". It even runs under Wine in Linux.

>> No.5692561

if I knew shit I would take your model and replace the axe with it for use in the HUH maps

>> No.5692567

>how come he is always out of gum?
He chews one pack at a time and has only one pack on him. He has to save the babes in order for them to get to the store and buy him gum.

Doesn't matter, it's still THE go-to retro FPS. The music is amazing and I like it whenever he shouts out "Holy shit". He's THE CHAD. Caleb is a virgin compared to Douk.

>> No.5692609

Go nuts.
Might want to fix the texturing on the axe head.

>> No.5692617

How is the spooktober CMP?

>> No.5692624

>this meme

>> No.5692632
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Am I a bitch nigga for noclipping to find secrets in quake?

>> No.5692641

wolfenstein wasn't always an fps either

>> No.5692646

Pretty much.

>> No.5692648

how am I supposed to know if a Doom wad was designed with jumping in mind or not?

>> No.5692660
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>implying a maniac like Caleb even cares about being a chad

>> No.5692661

yes? i don't know why you would expect anyone to say the opposite.

>> No.5692667

Do you HAVE to jump to get somewhere? You're supposed to jump. No? Don't jump. EZ

>> No.5692676

What this anon said. Always start without jumping. Use jump if you 100% sure that you can't get somewhere you need to

>> No.5692678

He only cared about Ophelia, and a couple other of his friends I’m the cult, and we all know how that turned out.

>> No.5692684

Just finished the 2nd ep of Douk. Wtf was that boss? It was moving very slowly and I had plenty of room to kite him around. The 1st episode boss was harder than this.

>> No.5692692

First Boss is the only hard boss.

>> No.5692703
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On the topic of bosses, how do you make a good boss in an FPS that doesn't amount to circle-strafing around it while pelting it with rockets?

>> No.5692707

There's some great maps and some truly dogshit maps, like it typically is with CMP's. However unlike usual there's a hub map and you have to finish maps to open up new areas. So I would suggest just noclipping to the end of the really bad maps so you can get to the good stuff.

>> No.5692708

Can't wait to finish the game and get me some mods with some actual difficulty.

Give it a chain gun that almost always hits so you'll need to hide (Just like in wolf3d) and make it deal a shitload amount of damage when hits.

>> No.5692712

Read the readme file. Why is that such a fucking difficult concept.
Well now instead of circlestrafing you just peak in and out of cover over and over again, which sounds even more boring.

>> No.5692716

Okay, make the boss launch rockets too. Now you have to run from place to place to get cover in order to avoid splash damage from the rockets.

>> No.5692738

Could anyone please tell me if it's a good idea to play Heretic for the first time in GZDoom? I've played Hexen in choco and would love to play in a better resolution etc but would like it to have some semblance of a real experience.

>> No.5692740

Yeah, kinda. Some of its best maps are by the end.

>> No.5692743

It's a Deagel

>> No.5692747

Its basically the same but with freelook/modern amenities dude, just play it.

>> No.5692758

Nah fuck freelook I'm turning it off. Heretic didn't have looking up and down right, Hexen did? I'm just asking about any annoying gameplay differences and stuff compared to vanilla that would spoil the experience.

>> No.5692767

wouldnt it be crazy if we found a link to this full video haha wouldnt that be silly haha

>> No.5692772

Can guncaster 3.2 work on GZDOOM 3.5.0?

>> No.5692784
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When is someone going to make Hquake

>> No.5692789

I'd rather play Quake 1 or Quake 2 rendition of Aliens: TC.

>> No.5692790

Heretic did have vertical freelook. Not with the mouse, but there were keyboard binds to look up and down. A lot of the inaccuracies in GZDoom's emulation of Doom actually stem from replicating features of Heretic. Heretic was the game to fix infinite actor height and it also added the "stealth" effect to the blursphere, where enemies won't notice you if you move slowly enough. Why the compatflags for those don't default to off when playing Doom is beyond me.

>> No.5692801

jesus christ blood on well done is fucking insane. This is the hardest FPS game I've played so far by a fucking mile. Did you guys play well done your first playthrough or did you go with lightly broiled?

>> No.5692805

Is there a easy to use software to make Texture wads for the game? i have ALWAYS had problems with that part.

>> No.5692807

So what's the consensus on Quake 1.5?

>> No.5692808
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>People include custom tracks in their HUH levels
>Its all moe anime tunes

>> No.5692809

i had to turn the difficulty down to lightly broiled, well done wouldn't be so bad if the cultists didn't have a split-second reaction time. it does get easier though as you get more weapons and the enemy variety widens

>> No.5692814

I did well done, but there's absolutely no shame in playing on lightly broiled. Blood's a real bastard of a game, especially coming off Doom or Douk.

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>> No.5692832

TexMex is pretty good.

>> No.5692843

don't tempt me

>> No.5692845
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>August 7th
Which one is it?

>> No.5692849

I think organizer friend just got mixed up with his post, and its still july 7th

>> No.5692850

Kawaiik is clearly the better name.

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July 7th, I'm just retarded and got that mixed up

>> No.5692856

Not really. Closer to an engine like Source, really. Basically zero game engines rely so heavily on brushes these days, usually there's a bare groundwork of actual terrain at most and everything else is actual 3d models and assets imported on the fly.

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uh oh

>> No.5692862

you never played alien quake?

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>we're finally doing a quake mapping project

boy did I choose a great time to start browsing these threads again.

>> No.5692879

motherfucker QUMP was three years ago

>> No.5692880

That's very interesting, thank you. So Heretic is actually more faithful than Doom in GZDoom. And yeah I kinda hate GZDoom for not being clear with it's options and changing item behavior like that. Still, can't see disabling infinite actor height as anything but an improvement and I'd like to never see it again. The blursphere change is highly controversial, though.

>> No.5692887

I didn't get a chance to join that one, so I'm glad we're doing another.

>> No.5692892

can you disable infinite height in Crispy/PRBoom?

>> No.5692898

No cheating for you.

>> No.5692903

It's not me who are cheating
It's them
the daemons

>> No.5692905

oh, my apologies
glad you could make it this time then

>> No.5692934

I've been thinking of using a touhou remix.

>> No.5692936

I have another question
Im using Doom RPG Se with all the compatible mods and oblige.
Is there an option to up the enemy variety? I only get like 5 in total with a miniboss every 15 levels which is far too rare. I once opened a spcial event gold box and was greeted with, im not shitting you at least 8 new enemy types, like flying angles and shit, i havent seen before if not more. Please tell how to spawn them, im sick and tired of shooting the same 5 in the past 5+ hours.

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is trenchbroom retard proof? I dont know jack shit about mapping and I want to figure out shit on my own

>> No.5692947

You're probably gonna have to watch some tutorials, but it is surprisingly easy to use.

>> No.5692950


>> No.5692957

TB is easy, but Quake mapping itself has lots of little quirks.

>> No.5692986

Ive spent 3 hours trying to make some stairs in Trenchbroom

FUCK you motherfuckers for telling me to try this shit out

>> No.5692996

Anon, you might be retarded. I'm sorry no one told you earlier.
>make brush
>ctrl+click to clone brush and move it next to the first one
>alt-click to move it up

>> No.5693005

i need the stair to turn at a right angle cus i put a door underground

how do you make doors in the ground not shimmer the texture?

>> No.5693012

>how do you make doors in the ground not shimmer the texture?
Move the door lower so it doesn't perfectly line up with the ground. What you're seeing is Z-fighting from the two surfaces fighting for visibility; this wasn't a problem in DOS Quake because it always forced worldspawn faces to take precedence over brush entities, but GLQuake ports follow standard sorting rules so you get Z-fighting.

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TrenchBroom is pretty intuitive and lots of actions like doors automate the process for you, but yeah you are going to need a tutorial, it also comes with a pretty extensive manual you can see by pressing F11

plus the video tutorials are pretty short and easy to follow:

Believe me if a retard like me can do it SO CAN YOU GODDAMIT
just keep the scope of your first map reasonable

>> No.5693021


>> No.5693025

Is PrBoom+ as close as I'll get to vanilla/Chocolate/Crispy with custom/wide resolution options?

>> No.5693034

not him but all I have to do is not touch the colored edges that span infinitely right?

>> No.5693038

>colored edges that span infinitely
w h a t

>> No.5693039

was i not supposed to use yamagi?

>> No.5693040

Has anybody ever beaten the original games on nightmare (let alone stuff like sunlust or alien vendetta)?

>> No.5693047

it was a pretty dumb way of saying the axis lines

>> No.5693056

Oh. If you mean the xyz axes always present at 0,0,0 you can ignore those. I mean don't let the faces of individual brushes overlap if it's gonna be something the player can see. Worldspawn with worldspawn is fine because everything outside the play area is automatically clipped away, but basically just lower your door a few units so it slides under the surface instead of into it.

If that makes sense. Man, it's hard to describe this stuff.

>> No.5693067
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my quake 2 is broken now and i cant seem to fix it, even on a fresh install
its just horribly bugged out on the screen, its like the id logo is stretched out and when i try to do something its invisible and then the screen glitches out
what do
windows wont let me screenshot it so i drew what it looks like, the scribbles are empty space and the screen is blank but the id dogtag logo
sooner or later someone will know what my problem is

>> No.5693076

but its a secret door your not supposed to know is there so i cant have it at a lower angle

>> No.5693081

Make it a func_door_secret, then. Those doors specifically have two movement directions- back and sideways instead of just sideways- so they can blend in with the environment and then retract. Easiest place to spot this is the Super Shotgun in E1M1.

>> No.5693085

how can you tell a secret door to move the in whatever direction you want?
you can change the angle with some entities you cant seem to affect much with the secret doors

>> No.5693092

Never. Ranger is a married man, and he loves his wife and kids,

>> No.5693093


>> No.5693098

t_width and t_length field for both directions, distance/lip works just like a normal door with -1 and -2 for up and down. You did watch the tutorials, right?

>> No.5693103

Caleb is the edgiest main character from a retro fps. Duke is arrogant. Doomguy is autistic and a virgin (I won't kill innocent civilians because I'm a pussy). Quake's ranger is a normie that likes to spend time with his family and get shitfaced watching football in his spare time.

>> No.5693106

qc lore doesnt count

>> No.5693107

You don’t even deserve a (You)

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>> No.5693112

What about Lo Wang and Leonard?

>> No.5693115

Why does it have to be about Ranger? I doubt the enemies of Quake would be as submissive and easily-waifu'd as those of Doom. Half of them don't even have eyes. Why not femRanger getting raped left and right?

>> No.5693117
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>mega vore
haha yeah like the thing from qua-
>porn mod of quake
>mega vore

>> No.5693119

>H-game where the porn is locked behind making the player lose
Fucking retarded idea and always has been. Also wanting to play as a girl to get railed by monsters makes you gay.

>> No.5693124
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what about a girl who still dominates and has her way as she wishes? 'cause listen, i'm pretty sure id's never gonna use galena for anything outside of q:c and i'm desperate for a game about my spell-slinging, david-bowie-looking, chisel-faced waifu

>> No.5693127

> porn game with female protag that gets raped by monsters
thats all of them
and i dont want to look at monster dicks

>> No.5693139

let's see
>grunt, enforcer, knight and death knight
pretty sure they can be
>ogre, zombie, fiend, scrag, vore and shambler
they might be with some imagination
>rottweiler and rotfish
fuck no
I dont know about what to do with chthon and shub

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>lewding rotting corpses
you fucking Tchernobog worshiper

>> No.5693152

if you're talking about the zombies then zombie girls are pretty common mate

>> No.5693159

> he can't figure out how to lewd vagina face and tentacle blob (canonically female)

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so what

>> No.5693181

i fixed my broken game through brute forcing. turns out that the game fucks up hard when i use opengl renderers, but the software option actually works and doesnt break my game horribly. is there anything i should mess with in a config file like mipmapping or something?

>> No.5693198

does your potato support opengl?

>> No.5693203

when i play doom and shit i use opengl but for quake 2 it breaks hard. is it cause of yamagi or some shit? is there a better source port?

>> No.5693240

After completing the Master Levels/TNT/Plutonia should I move onto Quake or Heretic/Hexen?

>> No.5693243

hexeretic, finish all of id tech 1 before going to the quake engine

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since we talked some Thifff last thread
How's that scene doing? I know they did a 20th anniversary contest not so long ago, but the frequency at what Fan Missions drop seems to be considerably lower than even Quake

Probably because Dromed is far older than TrenchBroom 2.0 and not as easy to map for

>> No.5693247

here's what I did
>Quake II
although this was over a decade ago, so there may be newer source ports out there that make playing some of these more enjoyable

>> No.5693250

Change Yamagi OpenGL renderer to use 1.4 version of OpenGL specification.

>> No.5693251

are you talking about in game or through a config file or something? if i try setting it to anything but software ingame it breaks

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Thief is less of the meme game too. It's not as popular of a scene because it's not a fast paced shooter with retro cred. It's a slow plodding sneaking game with slightly more obscure retro cred (to normies).

>> No.5693261

So basically, what you're saying is Doomguy is /ourguy/

>> No.5693267

wait i found out what you meant sorry for being retarded

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The JC Doomguy model should be usable now. It's rigged quite badly but the bare minimum is covered. Also comes with face contortions in form of vertex animation. I might update it sometime, but for now I guess it can be used as a resource.

>> No.5693284

Is Strife worth playing? It's more RPG-y right? Also is Marathon worth playing?

>> No.5693287

>Is Strife worth playing?
yes, though rogue entertainment's later stuff is much better
>It's more RPG-y right?
yeah kinda
>Also is Marathon worth playing?
yes, check out the fanmade stuff if you really liked it

>> No.5693302

DG Denton. GOOD. This should go in the next OP because... good. Yeah. Good. >>5692343

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Worth playing or not? I've been playing Klie's Master Levels and they've been alright, but know nothing else about it.

>> No.5693312

>BFG Super Soaker
I'd buy that for a dollar.

>> No.5693317
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It'll cost you more than a dollar.

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>had one of these puppies as a kid
>lost the hose
>couldn't use it anymore

>> No.5693328

you could probabyl just go to home depot and buy a hose

>> No.5693329

It had a proprietary connection.

>> No.5693337

>honey, Timmy wanted that new Super Soaker for summer
>what do you mean "Stallman didn't approve?"

>> No.5693340

This is why I liked the Storm guns more.

>> No.5693345

slap Sigil.wad onto Zandorum, turn on software renderer, done? I just want 4:3 old everything except the framerate. that PrBoomplus thing in your infographic wasn't what I was looking for.

Gotta love slime. Slime everything.

>> No.5693347
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Did anyone ever buy these Wizardworks compilations? I'm assuming these were just cash-ins made to prey on people without internet. I can't imagine any good content being on any of them.

>> No.5693350

Holy fuck, I had the similar grey one (I think the CPS 3000) and it wasn't even fair.
I don't know if there is a way to "win" at water gun fights, but holy fuck did I feel like I was winning.

>> No.5693356

GZDoom + Vanilla Essence
Crispy Doom using Sigil_compat

>> No.5693360

Zandro is fine I think, but it's MP focused. You could try Crispy Doom unless you don't like setting up shortcuts and batches and whatnot.

Here's what I'd do.
>get a recent version of GZDoom
>download Vanilla Essence
>set everything to vanilla doom sans framerate

>> No.5693369

Ranger-chan is CUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.5693398

That's why she sucks.

>> No.5693410

Did you know there's a version of PrBoom+ that allows the player to record their voice during a demo? Neat shit.

>> No.5693415

>GZDoom + Vanilla Essence
this is awesome, thanks.

Yup. My other ancient GZDoom folder is a mess so a fresh new version and that vanilla essence was perfect. I appreciate it.
gonna have to un-vanilla that resolution as well. I can deal with a lot but 200p hurts

>> No.5693421
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>tfw no Super Soaker weapons mod

>> No.5693425

No, but my dad loves the R6 and ghost recon games

>> No.5693429

>its a pressure washer that looks like a super soaker

>> No.5693432

It's not water guns but there is Nerf Arena Blast, a standalone 1999 FPS on the Unreal engine.

>> No.5693439

My little brother had this weird ass water gun that not only shot out water, but had another nozzle that sprayed out globs of this semenesque goo.
I think that would be a neat backup weapon for a mod. A little slime pistol that slowed down enemies.

>> No.5693441

Are the steam versions of Half-Life 1 and it's expansions good for a first playthrough? I noticed there is a source engine version as well.

>> No.5693442

>a cultist gunslinger who rose from the dead with supernatural abilities
>fucking eats peoples hearts to strengthen himself
>despite being lit on fire, can accurately dispose of everything in his path with the same manner
>durable as shit, takes like a full mag of a thompson, several shotgun blasts at point blank range, or a heavy explosion to take him out
>destroys entire cityscapes at will, cackling as he does it
>anyone who steps in his path inevitably dies, and he does not care who it is

>some typical roided up asshole who has a bunch of guns and a jetpack, like every other 80s-90s cheesy action hero could be given the same stuff

Yeah, you didn't even try. Your whole motivation for liking Duke is his quotes and one liners, which i like as well. But comparing the two, Caleb is a thousand times more unique and tough. He could silently turn Duke to ash with the voodoo doll from a distance and Duke could do nothing about it.

>> No.5693448

Isn't the whole point of crouching and jumping around like a Tazmanian Devil to not get instantly eviscerated by cultists?

>> No.5693461
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>> No.5693464
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I went on the internet today and I found this.

>> No.5693471

Nobody puts Square in a corner!

>> No.5693485
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>> No.5693489

Don’t forget about NRFTL.

>> No.5693492

Never got around to them. Might as well give give them a shot.

>> No.5693495
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oh man Thief is fucking breaking my teeth
I spent like an hour looking around in Ramirez's mansion looking for the fucking side objective treasure only to look it up and learn it was stashed away past a secret switch inside a lit fireplace, mind you since I was playing in expert this one was mandatory

and now the thieve's guild mission, I remember FUCKING HATING this one the first time I played it all those years ago
this is going to be a doozy

>> No.5693501

Good luck, Anon.

>> No.5693539

What does Atomic edition have that vanilla Duke Nukem 3D lacks?

>> No.5693542

A penis enlarger

>> No.5693572

Maybe if Quake Champions was a good game, people would care.

>> No.5693573

Scourge of Armagon gives me three weapons which share cells. What should I be using most?
>Laser Cannon
Also, did you know DoE had a grappling hook in multiplayer? The more you know.

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>> No.5693575

Multiplayer and all the other expansion packs.

>> No.5693576

I ended up using the Thunderbolt a lot, sometimes the Laser, and basically never the hammer.
Your experience may be different.

>> No.5693596

I love that /vr/ shooters are always the first things that get homebrew ported to new gaming hardware. It's a good tradition.
Handhelds are getting more advanced so devs are porting more than just DOOM now too. Quake 1-3 and Half-Life run at 60fps on some of the newer ones like the Vita.

>> No.5693606

>Quake has Wrath and Dusk
>Heretic has Amid Evil
>Duke Nukem has Ion Maiden
>Shadow Warrior has Shadow Warrior
>Doom has Prodeus
>fucking nothing for the best retro FPS of all time Blood

>> No.5693612

You could definitely jerry rig something.

>> No.5693614

>Heretic has Amid Evil
Not really.

>> No.5693615

Dusk is pure Quake in terms of gameplay, but stylistically it always reminded me more of Blood and other horror shooters.

>> No.5693626

Dusk always gave me more Blood vibes than Quake vibes.
Especially at the end of Episode 4.

>> No.5693640

How so?

>> No.5693641

>new civvie video
>more retro FPS revival shit

>> No.5693647

Hammer time can be fun but the laser cannon the overall the most useful.

Why don't mappers make maps for this mission pack instead of vanilla Quake, anyway? Why would you willingly live in a world without the laser cannon, without gremlins and without pet shamblers? It's 2019, everybody has the mission packs.

>> No.5693650

Episode 4. In some territories it came with the swearing and gore that was removed from the vanilla release, too.

>> No.5693652

That's honestly a good question, It'd be neat to see a prolific Quake mapper use the new resources given in either expansion instead of relying on AD or Quoth.

>> No.5693657

>more big john

>> No.5693663

I honestly couldn't care less about any of these new retro-inspired games that have been coming out. they just mostly lack a soul and a true identity. sure they look good I guess but they don't entice me the way blood, quake and doom do. probably because those are a little more truthful and a byproduct of their own time and technical limitations, everything else doesn't feel very genuine or just forced. they don't even play that well most of the time either.

>> No.5693678

Not him. Feels more like Quake but with Heretic weapons than Heretic itself to me. I've only played the first couple episodes so far though.

>> No.5693685

Is that a bad thing?

>> No.5693686

They are good but too easy.

>> No.5693691

Just an observation I was making that could potentially explain the other guy's
>Not really
as to why Heretic doesn't really have Amid Evil.

>> No.5693695

Ah, I see. Still, it feels more in common with with Heretic and Hexen to me. Especially with soul mode making your weapons temporarily stronger and change their function, just like the Tome of Power.

>> No.5693701

>they lack soul

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>> No.5693712
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Is this real?


>> No.5693714

>boomer doesn't understand nostalgia != "soul"

>> No.5693728

so are you two going to make actual points or just post garbage?

>> No.5693731

do you know where you are?

>> No.5693732

something "lacking soul" is a meaningless phrase that amounts to nothing when it comes to measuring whether a game is good or not.
All games released for sale are products created to make a profit. Doom and Duke don't have any more "soul" than Dusk or Amid Evil.

>> No.5693740

You're the one who's interested so why don't you check for yourself?

>> No.5693742

Quake also had Strafe, although that's more due to the marketing that hilariously backfired.

Does he spoil the game? I haven't gone through it yet?

>> No.5693746

Yes. He goes throughout the entire game, and recommends you buy and play the game yourself first.

>> No.5693747

>Does he spoil the game?

>> No.5693749 [DELETED] 

>Is that a bad thing?
No, but it's not Heretic-like.

>> No.5693754 [DELETED] 

My opinion is more about the genuine achievement earned by retro FPS, on the grounds of the technical boundaries that the devs had to work around at the time, while still covering new grounds with said newfangled tech. modern attempts that shoot to recreate that same feel come off as unnecessary to me. most of the time they don't even wane off to come up with new mechanics or interesting gameplay bits to make up for it, they're essentially more of what we already had except they're trying to look less insultingly bad than something like Warlock.

maybe I'm a bit too jaded by arcane dimensions.

>> No.5693757 [DELETED] 

whatever happened to that? was it really that shit?

>> No.5693758

By that do you mean that AD sets a standard for you these new retro games don't reach or that AD itself is an impure version of quake since its built without the limits of the original?

>> No.5693764 [DELETED] 
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Halo was released just 3 years after Half-Life, how long until it will be considered a retro shooter?

>> No.5693767

10 years

>> No.5693772

I guess it's the former. AD works for me because it adds to a pre-existing thing instead of something tangentially related to it, stays in line with the old gameplay style, and the new features are like a natural evolution of Quake's level design and progression. some things can be a bit hit or miss but it fares spectacularly at being 'more Quake', not something that attempts to relive the era it hailed from without really doing anything worth shelling out 15 bucks for.

and yeah, speaking of, probably also has to do with the fact that it's free.

>> No.5693774

Nah youre just being a retarded boomer. Dusk had plenty of soul.

>> No.5693778

Fuck off, Dave.

>> No.5693780


no it fucking doesn't.

>> No.5693781
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Alright, cool.

>> No.5693783 [DELETED] 

>muh soul
Garbage posts beget garbage posts

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>I called him the person behind the thing I hate, I doez beez so epic!

>> No.5693791

Good to know I can just force your hand.

'soul' was a poor choice of words from my part. but Dusk is just okay.

>> No.5693794
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retro is a flexible term, boomer. 30 years from now the games I played will be considered archaic and a novelty and will be the next generation's retroshit.
>no it fucking doesn't
define soul

>> No.5693795

judging by the last thread it's most likely a zoomer

>> No.5693796

>soul vs soulless arguments
Wow its like I'm really on /v/!

>> No.5693797 [DELETED] 

what a badass

>> No.5693801 [DELETED] 

jokes on you anon. This has always been /v/

>> No.5693803 [DELETED] 

Fuck off colonist.

>> No.5693804 [DELETED] 

>retro is a flexible term
Take that to the fucking site admins, what are you expecting us to say about your case?
>define soul
define my sagging ballsack

>> No.5693806 [DELETED] 

>implying vidya elitists with severe autism isn't quintessential /v/

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>> No.5693810

Goddamnit, /v/. You just had to come at shit up this place with your buzzwords and contrarianism. You couldn’t just stay in one place.

>> No.5693813

Quake 1 was a soulless tech demo

>> No.5693816

I have questions about the Q1 map jam that the pastebin doesn't have answers to.

>> No.5693817
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what are the best TCs for Doom?

>> No.5693824 [DELETED] 

All of them need to be dealt with, sooner than later.

>> No.5693825 [DELETED] 

>nuschool quake/doom 'spiritual successors' so trash they shit up every discussion involving them

>> No.5693830 [DELETED] 

Fuck off back to /v/

>> No.5693832

the fuck are you on about?

>> No.5693843

The question one has to ask oneself nine times out of ten on these threads as of late. no wonder janitors rule out every instance of retro-inspired FPS discussion on this board. which fits me, don't care much for any of them and I'm glad some agree with my sentiment, heh.

that being said, I'm wondering which of these two maps to submit as my entry for the project. I knew procrastination would only hurt me in the long run. it's like my focus was shifting between one or the other.

>> No.5693874
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Jesus christ I just want to talk about how much I fucking love Doom god damn.

>> No.5693875

I understand and agree with you anon; out of all of these psuedo-retro games only IM really holds up because it still looks gorgeous whilst keeping with the rough limitations of Build (obviously Eduke32 has some more bells and whistles but nowhere near as much as UE4 or Unity)

my problem is these games still just have really rudimentry gameplay. Build and Hexen were experimenting with items and interesting environments but these modern games don't even seem to bother with that.

>> No.5693882
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I like to get into multiplayer FPS duel matches and then suicide

>> No.5693886

I will give Maiden that it looks pretty, and I liked the rolling bombs. unfortunately everything else just kinda blended in together, and the maps were so busy and detailed they were just kinda awkward to move and find stuff in. also the enemies were just really as basic as you could get. I'm aware it was little more than just a demo though.

I'll give it points for looks. it's not 10/10 material but it was worth giving a shot.

>> No.5693891

Does Blood get back to being difficult? I honestly was having a blast with episode 1's ball-busting difficulty. Episode 2 has been piss-easy so far in comparison. All of the new enemy types are non-issues for the most part.

>> No.5693894

all enemies other than the cultists suck they are all piss easy

>> No.5693895

There can be a couple of reasons
>you got gud
>if you're playing dos, you're getting the difficulty glitch
>you chose a low difficulty and then complain

>> No.5693902

Fuck, thats disappointing. This game was close to being my GOAT but the combat went from thrilling to snore-inducing.

I doubt I'm truly good yet considering I'm only on ep2. Also not playing on dos, and am also playing on Well Done.

>> No.5693908

Yeah, I think 2D in FPS games offer a lot of new unexplored territory, I always imagined a Doom 3 implementing new stuff like Hexen, but Quake came too soon and everyone jumped into 3D models, and sadly sprites were leave behind. But luckily the Doom modding scene is always coming up with new things.

>> No.5693910 [DELETED] 

Is the first Painkiller considered retro? It certainly plays like a retro FPS at least

>> No.5693913

Late-episode 2 brings back Cheogh as a regular enemy. Episode 3 and 4 have some occasionally difficult maps, and the expansion episodes can be tough. I played on Lightly Broiled though, so maybe I'm just shit.

>> No.5693914


>> No.5693919

Isn't Painkiller in the "tape down S key" genre?

>> No.5693928

>It certainly plays like a retro FPS at least
No it does not. It is indeed different from the dominant 2000s FPS style. But it's not retro-style. Retro FPS games did not have arenas with waves of enemies required to kill to exit.

>> No.5693937

Are the 2 new shadow warrior games good? Are they similar to the original?

>> No.5693938
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fuck maps and fuck mapping

>> No.5693943

Both of them are very different from the standard Build engine fare. The first game is a reimagining made by the Hard Reset developers (of which bled into the redux of that game), the game after that tried to do a Borderlands.

>> No.5693954

Has anyone gotten jobs because their maps or mods were good? Other than the Final Doom guys.

>> No.5693965

dude who made evilternity

>> No.5693984

The guy who made the first ever TC got hired>>5693965

>> No.5693985

Beyond Kex engine memes, Kaiser got paid to work on level design for some commercial games like Section 8, according to his level portfolio.
Pretty sure stuff like Douk 3D World Tour and Ion Maiden maps hired mappers in the community.
Former Skulltag lead dev Carnevil made his own game in Wrack.
Some faux-retro FPS games might hire some, don't know about any though.
The Unloved dev made a standalone game of the same name, but in stark contrast it uses proc-gen maps than being handcrafted. Does that count as a job? Plenty of modders seem to branch out into making standalone games if they don't get picked up by a dev team.

>> No.5693986

Not sure why that quoted twice, but I think also some mappers are working on Prodeus

>> No.5693987

Looks like an audio bug. I've messed around with ConEdit before and it is very strict when it comes to audio formats

>> No.5694032

is ECWolf the only reliable way to play wolf3d? Im thinking of doing a real playthru for whatever reason

>> No.5694035

Played so many retro fps games at this point and still none of them compare to good ol Doom. How did ID do it?

>> No.5694045

That's how this thread works, yeah. You fucked up. Again.

>> No.5694047

No. The city levels are the best ones.

>> No.5694070

Yeah. The final 1/3 of Doom 2 is the best part.

>> No.5694079

>can't decide if I want to make a Base or a Wizard themed level
Which one should be easier for a beginner? I'd imagine Base because if I go by vanilla spec I only have the choice of three enemies.

>> No.5694090

scifi wizard base

>> No.5694091

If you care about texture alignment at all, do not fucking go Base. Holy fuck. Nothing lines up. Everything is exactly 64 or 128 pixels/units large. There's no easy fill textures except for roofs. If you don't trim every piece of sheet metal and tiling, everyone will call your map shit. Everything is fucking triangles that don't line up with ANYTHING. FUCK IDBASE.

>> No.5694097

PSA: if you happened to buy blood fresh supply on GOG check the goodies section it has one whole unit blood there for free should you want to legally use one of the other blood ports

>> No.5694105

Kek, guess I'll go with wizard.

>> No.5694114
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I mean someone bought it. Part of why people snub Master Levels is because it was also a D!Zone type disc. Some WizardWorks boxes also had Hell 2 Pay and other big megawads

>> No.5694135

Should have went to fetch a pail of water instead..

>> No.5694136

What is the best graphix mod for gzdoom?

>> No.5694138

smooth doom

>> No.5694141

Looks the same.
Ive seen a mod on the moddb facebook page 2-3 months ago where a mod adds new lightning and fog and effects and shit but i forgot its name

>> No.5694142

Vanilla Essence plus Smooth Doom for crispy yet refined taste that makes nostalgic for the past but helps you get past the limitations of the time

>> No.5694143

just try it anon it looks great in motion

>> No.5694145

Your definition of best is very different from ours. Most actual GRAFX shit is built into GZDoom with stuff like bright maps. If you want tilesets and new sprites it's all down to taste

Or you could find remake 4 if you're a degenerate

>> No.5694147

does the steam version have that as well?

>> No.5694149

i dont think so

>> No.5694150

I remember it showcasing some elevator for its lightning. imma search and report back if i find it

>> No.5694159

must be seeing things

>> No.5694174
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Found it, sorry for spam just for those who were curious what the fuck i was talking about. here is that graphics mod (Doom Slayer Chronicles)

>> No.5694176

Fuck Spawn and fuck people putting Spawn in their maps.

>> No.5694181

>some russian
Hard pass

>> No.5694182

that looks stupid and that elevator is based on one in doom 3

>> No.5694187

looks better than anything generated by oblige so far

>> No.5694189

We should make a custom weapon pack for the HUH project

>> No.5694190


>> No.5694196

and worse then almost every other doom mod

>> No.5694201

I still want a Build-style Doom game. Shit you could probably even recreate 16 at that point

>> No.5694204

you're exposing yourselves as a bunch of posers, fyi

>> No.5694213

its called not liking ugly shit

>> No.5694215

that's not what i mean, poser
i'm not going to help you

>> No.5694217

vasyan shit

>> No.5694218

>have nothing to argue so you start flinging dead insults

>> No.5694220 [DELETED] 

Cave Story should be a good run because it's almost all skill with very little skips and shenanigans.

>> No.5694235

So about that weapon pack for the map project...No one's interested?
I was thinking about everyone chipping in.

>> No.5694236

I could try doing some modeling but have no idea how to get shit into Quake.

>> No.5694238


>> No.5694239

Oh wait, I like shooting demons. The graphics are fine already.

>> No.5694240

Russians made a lot of great maps, and contributed to a lot of projects. Dismissing their work outright just because couple of 'tards have no taste is posing because it's following "stupid russkies can't do anything of value" preconception.

>> No.5694247

You're completely misunderstanding the problem but believe whatever you want.

>> No.5694259
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we believe in U anon
u can do it
or not but then you will be a total weenie

>> No.5694262

Isn't it a painkiller-like get-locked-in-a-room-until-you-kill-everything kind of mod? I generally dislike those.

>> No.5694263

nigga I ain't playing the whole game so I can check for 1 second of shit

>> No.5694264

There's no way to increase the Quake lightmap resolution is there?

>> No.5694270

we would need someone who knows how to mod in Quake C
unfortunately I have no clue

>> No.5694271

did you check the lighting tutorials?
there are options in the compiler to soften the shadows

>> No.5694274

So someone else should do it for you. How thoughtful of you, anon.

>> No.5694364

add low grav jumps and teleporters

>> No.5694368

any anime girl mods for doom? either playing as an anime girl or killing anime girls, both are fine.

>> No.5694370


>> No.5694371

La Tailor Girl

>> No.5694376

my dislike of it has nothing to do with russians and everything to do with it being ugly

>> No.5694378

meh, not into porn shit.
thanks, looks alright. i'll check it out.

>> No.5694396

Only one nigger dismissed it because >russian, the only other post referring to anything Russia was a guy comparing it to vasyan's shitty aesthetic.
You're delirious, you need to be taken to the infirmary

>> No.5694401

Is Ultra-Violence even beatable with the 1993 keymappings (arrow keys to move forward/back/turn, ctrl to shoot, hold alt to strafe)

>> No.5694406

Yes being as many did it back in the day but the original .exe supported mouse to an extent

>> No.5694412 [DELETED] 
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If you're looking for a mod, not a level pack with all GZDoom graphical features - Doom Remake 4 is probably what you need. But the quality of 3D monsters is questionable, also the game will look far different from the original Doom.

It's appears somebody reuploaded it despite the shut down by ZeniMax with all copyrigted names/logos removed: https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-remake-4


>> No.5694419
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Here we go again. WOW! The story was bullshit all along. Who knew?

>> No.5694426
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I know it's not retro, but it's a Doom general so I might as well. Thoughts on the new concept art tweet that shows Doomguy commanding a large army of crusaders?

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>> No.5694440
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If he ain't killing demons,then what's the point?
>needing an army when you have Doomguy

>> No.5694441

>The story was bullshit all along. Who knew?

Are you talking about Zenimax shutting down Doom mods? Where does it say that it was bullshit? The original author abandoned the project and deleted all his pages (he insanely promoted it everywhere and had hundreds downloads links (on Moddb, Nexus etc.) and even an official webiste) because of that legal claim. It was reuploaded on Moddb by somebody else who renamed it.

>> No.5694454

I swear that "somebody who reuplaoded it" was vasyan himself. And the whole story about "Bethesda shutting down GZDoom mods" was fabricated so he could shill even more his crappy compilation of stolen assets.

>> No.5694458

>implying its not Doomguy just telling them all to go home and take a holiday while he deals with hell

>> No.5694469
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Oh i forgot this is a thing in that shitty mod

>> No.5694472

Vasyan is not a modder, but a forced meme fabricated by the russian trolls from 2ch/v/doom. How dumb can you be to not realise this? Of cource it is a hoax. The "Remake 4 mod" is non-existant, it's just hires texture pack + crappy 3D model pack from Skulltag era put together. It was made just for baiting and the gaming jorunalists like PC Gamer are just too stupid to fall for it.

>> No.5694481

Remember when it was a really loud bitcrushed voice clip from some 80s movie

>> No.5694496

Prove it's a hoax or gtfo. I checked 2ch Doom thread and nothing was mentioned about it being a hoax.

>> No.5694510

stop showing your whole ass
dsc is a horde mode mod, not a graphics mod
it also runs pretty well from what i played of it

>> No.5694523

>dsc is a horde mode mod, not a graphics mod
It's 305 MB, mostly of oversized textures, sprites and images.

>> No.5694528

i am truly sorry that 305mb is too much for your dell
also, its 522mb, at least the one i have
the same guy is making a blood based mod that has graffixxxxx out the ass too, if you want to get more mad about people enjoying things you don't

>> No.5694538
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Translation from 2ch: "Yes. The "Shutdown of Doom Remake 4" was just made up for lulz/trolling and also to attract attention from the media, so they would promote the mod even more and the Doom fans/purists would have permanent butthurt from seeing a popularity of such crappy vasyan mod."

>> No.5694546

my gf can read russian but unfortunately is at work right now so i'll take your word for it

>> No.5694548
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behold my custom texture

>> No.5694553

"Уткa" (Utka) basically means "retrofag" in 2ch/v/. "Doom fan" is wrong translation.

>> No.5694556 [SPOILER] 
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>using memetics to troll people and literally the media

This is what the Patriots warned us about

>> No.5694557

Question. Do you guys now how to get Monster Closets working in GZDoom Builder? I've been trying to get one working by having it trigger through taking a red key but it doesn't seem to be working.

>> No.5694559

How do I add custom textures?

>> No.5694560


>> No.5694564

I've just finished Doom E1 for the first time. I chose "Hurt me plenty" and died only once when surprised by two Barons in E1M8.
Does game get more difficult in further episodes or do I need to play them on Ultra-Violence to crank things up?

>> No.5694567

play e4

>> No.5694569

vasyan shit
do not use or download

>> No.5694578

It's not even a well scripted one at that, because it bugs the hell out constantly.

>> No.5694583

Should come as no surprise that the community gets played like this time and time again, with the way it's been for the past seven or so years, it's wide open for being trolled.

>> No.5694593

They used this on the envelope for the Slayers Club giveaways.

>> No.5694602

Imagine getting this assblasted over a fictional character

>> No.5694608

Will this be compatible with maps made in oblige?

>> No.5694609

Sorry for off-topic but my shitty PC can't process the MENU of Doom 2016 so are there are any fun old FPS that are newer than old Quakes, DNF and Dooms but older than new wolfenstein for example?
Like I want something without too much boring bullshit like modern games tend to have.

>> No.5694618

This board is for video games released before 2000.

>> No.5694619

> Sorry for off-topic

>> No.5694621

Apology accepted. You're still not getting an answer.

>> No.5694629

I just know that v is mostly a shithole and people here tend to have a taste
> implying you ever knew it to begin with

>> No.5694637

People here have a taste for games made before 2000.

>> No.5694638

download texmex 3.4
give me some time, I'm trying to figure palettes

>> No.5694640

Lost in vivo, its survival horror tho

>> No.5694641

All right, we get it: you're that guy who never let's any small transgression go as if it was a physical object inside your rectum.

>> No.5694650
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>USA Network has given a pilot order to Masters of Doom, a drama based on David Kushner’s nonfiction book, from James and Dave Franco’s Ramona Films, The Gotham Group and UCP. Masters of Doom is being eyed as an anthology series, with the first installment based on Kushner’s book, published by Random House in 2003.

>Written and executive produced by WGA Award winner Tom Bissell (Gears of War), Masters of Doom is the true story of two computer geniuses in an obscure corner of America who, along with a group of rebellious misfits, created one of the biggest franchise hits of the 90s, the video game Doom. John Carmack and John Romero were best friends who became bitter rivals, as they created a video game empire and transformed pop culture forever.

>> No.5694660

Is there a Quake sourceport with controller support? I'm mostly just interested in analog movement.

>> No.5694662

Some dramatized bullshit as always. Real stories are so much more interesting and engaging.

>> No.5694663

continue being a useful idiot for an unfunny russian troll that's been going on too long, faggot
play shogo bitch

>> No.5694673

Serious Sam and Painkiller

>> No.5694680


>> No.5694682

Huh, I joked about a Masters of Doom movie being the perfect way to make a Doom movie before, neat

>> No.5694685

that one drama about GTA was pretty shit

>> No.5694692 [DELETED] 

>John Carmack gonna be gay black guy
>John Romero gonna be woman
>Focuses only on race and sexism and has nothing to do with Doom or Id in general
>John Romero step dad beats on her for being light skinned
>Carmack constantly teased at home for being gay
>The two begin programming to make games that break the mold of being for white men only and to represent minorities

>> No.5694704

That's the Netflix version.

>> No.5694708

has reelism ever been updated

>> No.5694717

So James as Romero and Dave as Carmack I guess?

>> No.5694751

Anyone knows a doom wad based around or inspired by Gundam in general? I’m sure there is one but I can’t find it.

>> No.5694753


>> No.5694764

get rekt faget

>> No.5694765

it is straight up bonkers the amount of bullshit the mgs series ended up predicting.

>> No.5694796
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How do I stop the aliens from abducting my framerate?

>> No.5694801

Buy an RTX 2080. Soon Graf will make it mandatory minimum requirement for GZDoom.

>> No.5694803

Is Shogo worth playing?

>> No.5694805

Use a different engine.

>> No.5694815

There was no statement from Zenimax or Bethesda.

"Уткa" or "Duck" refers to a "Duck syndrome". According to the meme syndrom, a duckling will blindly follow the first living thing he will ever see in his life as a "mother". Usually it has a context of being blinded by nostalgia, not necessary a retrofag.
Thus "Duck"/"duckling" in this context are doom fans, and it is implied that purists do not accept modernizations because they suffer "duck syndrome" and can't deal with anything that differs from the first experience they had.

>> No.5694816

play doom, the best and the only relevant retroshooter, or douk, but you should doom

>> No.5694820

I'm more of a douk guy but I haven't played Shogo yet. is there a source port for it?

>> No.5694834

GPU has little bearing on the FPS though. Most areas are CPU-bound.
I've upgraded from GTX 660ti to GTX1080ti and saw a only 3-5% increase in FPS in GZDoom (in other games increase is about 300% - latest AC went from 15-20 fps to 55-60)
Rendering is not very taxing on GZDoom unless you are talking thousands of particle effects with post processing and x8 antialiasing.
Interpreting decorate/zscript of all the actors, effects, thinkers etc is what takes most of the performance and it's not offloaded to GPU.

>> No.5694845
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I'm trying to make a little lift in Trenchbroom, and I've grouped together the lift platform and the column, but now I can't actually set it as any brush entity anymore, they're all greyed out.

>> No.5694846

>two computer geniuses
Well, one genius and one smart guy.

>> No.5694857

Already there. Just try to run a heavy graphical mod like DSC or Total Chaos and enable shadowmaps. A PC with i7 and GTX 1080-tier card would struggle to give you a constant 50 fps in 1080p. And there will be occasional fps drops below 30.

>> No.5694865

It's a heck of a shotgun.

>> No.5694868 [DELETED] 
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Hi. I like Doom. Can we enjoy Doom together?

>> No.5694870

No douk no life

>> No.5694872 [DELETED] 

No. Go back to discord, trannie.

>> No.5694875

Is that a new doom enemy?

>> No.5694880 [DELETED] 
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Doom is SJW game so no.

>> No.5694897


>> No.5694906

Ungroup it.

>> No.5694907
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Works on my machine™

>> No.5694908

Yeah, I figured out that you can just select multiple brushes and set them both as one platform. It just works, though it's a little odd.

>> No.5694912 [DELETED] 

Looks like crossdresser rather than trannie.

>> No.5694918 [DELETED] 

That guy is russian and In Russia you're not allowed to become a trannie. You can only crossdress privately.

>> No.5694919

Groups are an editor-only feature that is ignored when compiling.

>> No.5694946

Strafe had fantastic marketing but it was all lies.

On launch Strafe was a broken mess that I refunded without a second thought. Waste of my time and hype.

>> No.5694959

Shadow Warrior 2013 and 2 were not retro themed fps.

>> No.5694968 [DELETED] 

Based russia

>> No.5694974

>"I really liked those games, I wish there'd be more games like them"
>"why nobody makes game like those anymore?"
>"I refuse to look at any new game that tries to be like those I liked, because they are new"
I'ts like a self fulfilling prophecy for whiny crybabies

Also works great to separate nostalgiafags in rose-tinted glasses from people who can enjoy good games regardless of when they came out.

>> No.5694979

Who even is this post for?

>> No.5694982

There’s also Wolf4SDL.

>> No.5694984

It looks like one of those all visuals no gameplay wads like tormentor667 used to make.

>> No.5694987

You’re right. Dragonfly is working in Prodeus.

>> No.5694989

Play shogo bitch. Don't listen to the haters, they whine because they have shitty reaction times from all the cum in their eyes.
It doesn't need a source port, it works fine on modern computers with a couple of fixes that you can find on pcgw.

>> No.5694996

wow, you sound hurt.

>> No.5694997

youre mum

>> No.5694998

Who's this?

>> No.5695000
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This is fake. There is a different post under the number 4215470

2ch [dot] hk [slash] v [slash] res [slash] 4206129 [dot] html

>> No.5695004

Its a fairly serviceable arena/horde-mode mod but yeah it's very much focused on looking pretty. I think it looks pretty nice, strikes a good balance between fancy visuals and sprites rather than looking like the russian troll project.

>> No.5695005

Just ignore him, it's the same spastic ESL poster that's been lashing out at people over petty shit.

>> No.5695006

I asked mine and she said, and I quote, 'amid evil is distilled carcinogen extract mixed in with a couple black mamba venom drops in a martini glasses for good measure'

not sure what that is supposed to mean

>> No.5695007

Please elaborate on Strafe's marketing. I would like to laugh at them as well.

>> No.5695014

Doom becomes boring after a while, what do you recommend? I want something that requires less killing of hordes of monsters and I'd like to try something harder, that would force me to try to stay hidden or idk, something that's more than doom (it became bland)

>> No.5695016

I think Shogo's what hurt you. Why do you fags constantly shit on it when its nothing but a fun shooter with hilarious 90s weeb aesthetics and has genuine difficulty?
I've hardly posted in this thread you stupid cunt, the ESL shitposter is the one who said to play Doom instead. The fuck's wrong with trying to get someone to play a game I like when they ask if its worth playing?

>> No.5695019

Strafe was marketed as being exactly like quake and 'the best shooter of 1996' and had a pretty amusing commercial for their kickstarter.
Turns out they were much better at making a fake 90s trailer than a fake 90s game.
Dusk is literally what they wanted to be.

>> No.5695021 [DELETED] 

Reminder: these people breed.
These people breed. Just a reminder.

>> No.5695024

There's nothing to talk about, they made a trailer, implying that it's some kind of True Old School FPS Thingy©, same goes for their KS campaign page, had a very 90s looking promo site to back it up, time goes, game gets a release, its a shitty "Roguelike" shooter.

>> No.5695025

Unlike you

>> No.5695030

Reminder that if you have any fucking optimism for this industry to begin with you're a fucking mark.

>> No.5695035

It definitely gets harder. E1 is still easy on UV, but the others get ramped up quite a bit.

>> No.5695036 [DELETED] 

now get the fuck out of the thread you whiny fucking bitch

>> No.5695040

>something that requires less killing of hordes of monsters
>that would force me to try to stay hidden
A survival horror on the doom engine would be neat.
You could try Rainbow 6 or one of the Build engine's holy trinity. The latter is still killing hordes of monsters. Heretic is fun and some of the TCs for Doom aren't bad.

>> No.5695041

I'd rather it be written by Aaron Sorkin.

>> No.5695042

Thanks, I'll look into the holy trinity first.

>> No.5695047

E1-E3 is kind of easy on UV compared ot what I expected. Its still well designed, fun to play and offers a challenge in some areas.
E4 on UV is anti-fun horse shit on a few levels and piss easy on others with only a couple reaching a nice middle ground.
play E1-E3 on UV and E4 on HMP, then be disappointed by Doom 2

>> No.5695048

>I want something that requires less killing of hordes of monsters and I'd like to try something harder, that would force me to try to stay hidden
hideous destructor is literally tactical doom, try it if you haven't already
if you've tried it before and bounced off, read the manual then try it again, totally worth it

>> No.5695050

personally I think Shadow Warrior is forgettable but Duke 3D and Blood are pretty great.

>> No.5695053

Some russian fag who is working on translating Doom (who the fuck would anyway need translated Doom? lol): https://youtu.be/5UYqC46Gl3U

>> No.5695057


Duke first, Blood next and then I should see if it's worth going for SW or not.

>> No.5695058

I like all three, Shadow Warrior's arsenal was a real standout for me, the sword and grenade launcher can carry you through almost every encounter and it feels good pinging grenades off the map to kill shit around corners.

>> No.5695061

Shadow Warrior’s pretty good and challenging. Not as ball busting as Blood, but still hard. It’s also free on Steam.

>> No.5695064

Don’t forget the Riot Gun. Best shotgun in the Build Engine.

>> No.5695068

I wish it some more animations to it but I can't deny it's mechanically satisfying as fuck, doing the big mag dump feels great.

>> No.5695069

Any good Unreal single player maps or mods? Are they any good? Is there a website dedicated to this? Is the multiplayer scene dead?

>> No.5695073

Anon wasn't lying about texture alignment in idBase. Holy fuck this is a chore.

>> No.5695074


>> No.5695075 [DELETED] 

fuck off.

>> No.5695081 [DELETED] 
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>who the fuck would anyway need translated Doom

I need. Me speak very bad english.

>> No.5695083

>shilling this hard for a hilariously mediocre shooter

>> No.5695086
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I like the story

>> No.5695089 [DELETED] 

wow! epic!
I'm still not playing your trash game.

>> No.5695090


>> No.5695097 [DELETED] 

Why would so hansome man turn into an ugly trannie like this pic? >>5694880

>> No.5695107 [DELETED] 

This is what happens when you spend too much time in Doom Community. A satanic game turns you into a trannie.

>> No.5695116

>It was reuploaded on Moddb by somebody else who renamed it.
>joined Jun 25, 2019
how suspicious

>> No.5695118

It’s just a coincidence.

>> No.5695120
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I wish I was a computer genius. But unfortunately I'm a worthless nobody

>> No.5695124

Trenchbroom (and mario maker) confirmed that i am not a creative person and cannot create interesting content.

I am sad.

>> No.5695130
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>> No.5695134

>WAD is designed with jumping, crouching or vertical look in mind

>> No.5695136

Comedy of the year

>> No.5695149

Join the club.

>> No.5695153
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Check Unreal Archives. It's got tons of U1 singleplayer content. From single maps to long multi-level campaigns.
Plus every map/campaign has a short description/review with rating so you can judge it if it's worth your time.
But overall, Unreal has a handful of good sp shit.

>> No.5695158 [DELETED] 

Would you reupload it using your real nickname (known by others who can compromise you), e-mail and even IP address (not using VPN) to later suck Bethesda's cock in the court?

>> No.5695164

but that mod was actual trash why do people give a shit what happened to it

>> No.5695165

and chip chong nip bong to you too

>> No.5695175

Agree. Brutal Doom should also be taken down for usage of ZeniMax IP, logos, derivatives of copyrighted work and the third-party engine. Fuck sgtmarkiv, that toxic bastard deserves it too. Oh, wait.

>> No.5695180
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So I've been playing around in Trenchbroom, mostly just making some "prefabs" instead of actually working on my level yet and have some questions_
Is there a rule for how thick walls touching the void should be?
Should I add colored lighting? Quake didn't originally support it so I'm not sure if I should put it in. does Quakespasm support it?
Is the bad performance in the editor normal? Feels like 15 fps or something.

>> No.5695184

>shut down Brutal Doom
man, if only.

>> No.5695186

>russian shitmod mentioned
>immediate sharp downturn in posting quality


>> No.5695187

>bad performance
>in the editor
are you running that on period accurate hardware or what?
no it's not normal

>> No.5695189
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I'm sure that WADs based on the 9 circles of hell are a dime a dozen but what's the best one?

>> No.5695193

I'm trying to host some Doom with mods for me and a friend. GZDoom or Zandronum for this? I Know Zandronum is the go-to for MP but they suggested using GZDoom.

>> No.5695203

Okay what the fuck is going on with GZDB?
I am trying to set a line special via script (Line_SetPortal), but it doesn't seem to recognize it and gives me a compiling error. I am using ACC 1.57. What gives?

>> No.5695206

>Is there a rule for how thick walls touching the void should be?
Nah. Generally people use either 16 or 32 units thick.

>> No.5695213

I see some unnecesaries polygons in that pic. AFAIK, there isn't any rule for thickness, I just use texture sizes as a guide. Literally nothing wrong with colored lighting, it's just not vanilla.

>> No.5695216 [DELETED] 

There's still a hope for it.

I'll try today to send them a complaint about Brutal Doom to [email protected]

It worked with shitty vasyan mod, why wouldn't it work with Brutal Doom then?

>> No.5695221

>I see some unnecesaries polygons in that pic

>> No.5695225

If it's just you and one friend then use GZDoom, especially if you're using mods that require it.

>> No.5695232

And such people like you call themselves doomers on this board. You should be ashamed.

>> No.5695237

Just fucking report

>> No.5695238

Someone should stream fucking around in Trenchbroom and we could add suggestions and build a levewl together a community :3

Would be fun for a weekend thing

>> No.5695247

>levewl :3

>> No.5695250
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>> No.5695252 [SPOILER] 
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Would him be a good Carmack?

>> No.5695258


>> No.5695260

Was this just added to GZDoom?

>> No.5695267


>> No.5695271
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Why not like pìc related? I don't know why you need the extra detail. Remember to use ctrl+j to merge two polygons (or faces)

>> No.5695276

I need the extra detail at the top for the light textures. I can merge the side columns that way though, you're right.

>> No.5695278

UV is basically the default difficulty for Doom. Play on that. Even so E1 is pretty easy. It does get harder and even if you find that stuff easy there is always shit like Plutonia.

>> No.5695281

ive been drinking energy drinks and my hand is shaking

>> No.5695282

If he combines the top area he couldn't use the inner texture, retard. Plus it doesn't fucking matter how you cut up your brushes because QBSP optimizes it anyway.

>> No.5695284

I'd make just one polygon with a custom texture if I weren't an artistlet. You could change the height or angle to give some extra use to these polygons

>> No.5695290

>anthology series,
U wot

>> No.5695292

>just got into retro FPS recently
>every boss for every game is just "Circle-strafe while shooting rockets at it to win"
Do any of these games have half-decent bosses? Doesn't even have to be difficult, just has to be more than circle-strafing while holding down M1 for 5 minutes.

>> No.5695301

Nope. Bosses are akways shit in these games. Its a shame.

I feel like all they had to do for bosses is after every x amount of damage then lock off being able to damage the bosses for a while, release some small mobs to care off before going back to the boss. At least it would add variety and more shit to do rather than "literally just move in a circle for 20 seconds"

>> No.5695304

I know Amid Evil has some good bosses but I can't think of any good classic ones

>> No.5695309

that sounds terrible. Every boss that's done that has been abysmal.
come of the conversions might offer more variety.

>> No.5695312


>> No.5695313

The Heretic/Hexen series has some cool bosses.

>> No.5695314

LITERALLY better than strafing a boss in a circle and beating it in 10 seconds.

>> No.5695318

>Dime a dozen
I actually could never find one. I am curious to know what the best ones are and if there's one that directly copies Dante's journey.

>> No.5695319

Haven't played Amid Evil but I just finished Dusk and one of my main complaints is that that game did NOTHING to make the bosses better from the games it was based off of. 20 fucking years of game design advancement and besides the final boss every one of them was just a circle strafe fest. If you're going to do a "Throwback" game you should at least address some of the core problems the genre had and I feel like Dusk didn't do shit to improve on the formula. In fact in terms of enemy design it was just a worse version of Quake 1 in my opinion. It was a neat game but I doubt I'll ever go back to it because I'd rather just play a Quake mod or something. Also people can shit on Doom 4 all they want for the shitty level design but that game had GREAT bosses in comparison to what I've played so far from 90's shooters.

>> No.5695341
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it could provide some neat variety with the different circle's aesthetics an punishments as a hazard theme

>> No.5695346

yeah, sure

pfffffftttt yeah right

>> No.5695349

name a better way to do bosses in a shooter.
>solve a puzzle to beat it
wow a gimmick fight
>make it invulnerable
needless padding that's just an annoyance
>please shoot my giant weak spot
just as generic as circle strafing

bosses in FPS games are shit

>> No.5695356

Make the boss shoot bullets/missiles in a circle but every time, the circle is either going lower or higher, making you to decide when to jump/crouch. I know it's not much, but it is a start.

>> No.5695368

FPS games like Quake are infamous for their movement exploits like bhopping, strafejumping, rocket jumping etc. I think a neat boss would focus on forcing the player to move in directions that aren't just "hold +left or +right." Doom Eternal is adding all that crazy anime fighter airdashing and grappling and climbing, I wonder if any bosses will incorporate that into a fight.

>> No.5695369
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I would actually unironically love this
Bring on the sickeningly cute animu songs.

>> No.5695375

Give them multiple attacks that require more than just running in circles. For example in Doom 4's cyber demon fight he has
>simple missile attack that just requires you circle strafe
>AOE missle attack that marks where the missles will land on the ground so you have to position yourself in the right place while also shooting and avoiding his other attacks
>his slash attack which sends a blade-like projectile which will either go low or high, if it goes low you need to jump
>it sometimes will summon rocks that block you into a tiny area and you only have a small space to avoid his missle or slash attacks
>also has a laser beam attack where you have to semi-predict where the shot will land based on his arm movement
Its not difficult in the slightest, but its 10x more engaging than a boss that just requires you to run in a circle for 5 minutes. Doom 4 did a lot wrong but it nailed how to do boss fights in an FPS game.

>> No.5695376
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I always that it would be neat to fight the overlord in duke3d in a narrow hallway that forces you to jump, crouch, and jetpack over his missile barrages. Maybe change up his attack a little to influences what action the player has to take to dodge it also. And obviously the closure he gets the harder it is to dodge his attacks.

>> No.5695390

some of them are straight up puzzles like in doom 2 and quake 1
fps bosses bosses were hard because of limitations, since making sprites and animations and gameplay for enemies was already difficult
but some games did just happen to simply copy doom
meanwhile, cod like games dropped the concept of bosses much like actual game design in general
doom 2016 had some interesting bosses at least
doom 64's mother demon felt like an attempt at replacing both the mastermind and icon of sin

>> No.5695405

>anime style mode for quake
>models are like those from games like megaman legends/jet set radio

>> No.5695412

By the why, how to the hell guards and SMM compare to the Cybie as bosses?

>> No.5695432

Fucking do it.
I would unironically love it too.

>> No.5695439
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Agreed I am surprised no one has done that yet to my knowledge. Would be fucking cool to see that.

>> No.5695442
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What is "real"? How do you define "real"? If "real" is what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste, and see; then "real" is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.

>> No.5695450

Is this model for DX1?

>> No.5695456


What do you think about this?

>> No.5695457

You have my attention.

>> No.5695470

Correction on that, Master Levels also came with a disc called Maximum Doom, which was that exact shovelware shit you'd see Wizardworks do.
Master Levels was made out of submissions (though I think it's kind of weak anyway)

>> No.5695479

can you edit aldready existing maps with trenchbroom?

>> No.5695484

>Limbo: Those who never knew of the lord are cursed live in a fog away from the grace of god.
>Lust: The lustful are blown around by a violent, never ending storm, never to rest.
>Gluttony: The gluttonous are rained upon by skinky rain and garbage, and stand in worms decomposing the mess, while also being guarded by Cerberus.
>Greed: The Avaricious and the Prodigal are forced to push stones against eachother, each saying the other is wrong in the way they manage money.
>Anger: The wrathful are on the bank of the river Styx and are constantly fighting in the mud, while The Sullen are submerged in the black tar river, forever choking.
Heresy: The Heretics are to be forever trapped in tombs of fire, and be forced to relive the past.

>> No.5695494
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>thought I'd ease up on my HUH map and finish it right before the 7th
>suddenly remember I'm leaving for Florida tomorrow night and my only laptop is shot
I'll work on it up until departure, and upload what I've got here, or send it to the organizer email if I have enough time

>> No.5695504

You need a .map file, which is the source of the compiled .bsp file. Some people release their .maps, some don't.

>> No.5695534

>Outer Ring of Violence: They are made to boil in their own blood, Centaurs guard and shoot its inhabitants with arrows if they get out higher than they are deemed worthy, to punish their violence against people and property.
>Middle Ring of Violence: Holding those that have committed violence against themselves, these sinners are turned into trees and perpetually eaten by Harpies.
>Inner Ring of Violence: Made up of the blasphemers, or those who are violent against God and nature. They are cursed to wander a great plain of burning sand where it rains fire. The Blasphemers are stretched supine upon the burning sand, the Sodomites run in circles while being burned by the raining fire, while the Usurers crouch huddled and weeping with purses around their necks.
>Fraud: Within the 8th circle, there is another called the Malebolge (“Evil Pockets”) which houses 10 separate Bolgias (“ditches”). In these exist different types of frauds, including: Panderers/Seducers (1), Flatterers (2), Simoniacs (3), Sorcerers/Astrologers/False Prophets (4), Barrators (5), Hypocrites (6), Thieves (7), False Counsellors/Advisers (8), Schismatics (9), and Alchemists/Counterfeiters, Perjurers, Impersonators, etc. (10). Each of these Bolgias is guarded by different demons, and the inhabitants suffer different punishments, such as the Simoniacs who are stood head-first in stone bowls and forced to endure flames upon their feet.
>Treachery: Separated into four sections. Caina for those who betray their family, Antenora for political/national traitors, Ptolomaea for hosts who betray their guests, and Judecca for traitors to their lords. All are frozen in the lake up to their heads, unable to move.

>> No.5695568
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>Play blood for the first time
>Caleb laughs maniacally like an anime character
It's time to drop it, I guess.

>> No.5695610

dude anime lmao

>> No.5695613


>> No.5695620

Which retro FPS is worth replaying in your opinion, besides the 2 big guys? (Doom and Quake)

>> No.5695625

Douk, Shadow Warrior, Blood, Heretic, Hexen.

>> No.5695638

>play duke 3d for the first time
>duke sounds like someone putting on a ridiculous chad voice
lmao dropped

>> No.5695662

It’s funny that you mentioned anime, when Stephan Weyte is obviously impersonating slasher villains with his Caleb voice.

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>> No.5695668 [DELETED] 

Half Life was the Halo of its time. People liked it for the "cinematic" feel.

Considering Doom and actual good shooters are older it's honestly pathetic how people claim HL1 was ever good.

>> No.5695681

eternally buttpained

>> No.5695683 [DELETED] 

Hl will never be a classic fps.

>> No.5695687

go make another thread screeching about it, faggot.

>> No.5695689

>first playthrough of Blood
>tfw running into a room full of hitscanners guns blazing on Well Done
>come out of the fight with full health
This games combat is so fucking satisfying. You die so fast but so do the enemies. Its so fucking good.

>> No.5695694
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>equating Half-life and Halo with the typical FMV cinematic games that were rampant in the late 1980s-mid 1990s

>> No.5695698

Half Life >>>>>>>> Quake

>> No.5695702 [DELETED] 

Valvenigger leave

>> No.5695703
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now we wait

>> No.5695707

What is your personal favorite of the build engine holy trinity?

>> No.5695709 [DELETED] 


>> No.5695721

Well Done is supposed to be for multiplayer though.

>> No.5695723

why are you always so mad about a point and click manshooters from 1998

>> No.5695725

no thats extra crispy

>> No.5695726
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half-life or half-life: source?

>> No.5695727

You're thinking of Extra Crispy

>> No.5695730

half life source is literally broken nowadays because the enhancements to the engine but no one cared enough to actually fix the game.

>> No.5695731
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>like an anime character

>> No.5695752

>not a sitcom
can that industry make 1 (ONE) thing right?

>> No.5695756 [DELETED] 

people who played Doom and Quake didn't like HL1
people who were kids back then and played it claim it's the best shooter ever made

>> No.5695757
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Started working on my HUH map today.

>> No.5695758

They're just video games. Holy shit.

>> No.5695761 [DELETED] 

>They are just videogames bro
>dont call my taste shit
Fuck hl, goldeneye, perfect dark and cs. All overrated and shit.

>> No.5695762

why do you like half-life so much?

>> No.5695765


>> No.5695774

Just remembered that the 2016 sound MetaDoom used in its Doom 2 end replacement may come from the arcade mode.

>> No.5695775

Still just video games. Did they kill your family?

>> No.5695780

May Prey is so overrated... 2006 I mean.

>> No.5695787

It could be with its weapons, monsters and core gameplay. Valve and most modders just focused more on telling a story with the environment than building something akin to a quake level.

>> No.5695791 [DELETED] 

Fuck off ya botttom of the barrel /v/ermin.

>> No.5695798


>> No.5695813 [DELETED] 


And you should follow him too, parasite.

>> No.5695817

>Its a zoomer pretending to be an angry boomer because he is in desperate need for attention episode

>> No.5695823

And thats why its garbage

>> No.5695828 [DELETED] 

Keep pretending hl is on the same as doom, quake, unreal, blood, duke.
Its not a classic, sorry.

>> No.5695836 [DELETED] 
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Its not the same, RPGcodex tapeworm! It doesn't have to be.

>> No.5695840

Why though?

>> No.5695842

GMOTA confirmed canon

>> No.5695847 [DELETED] 

mean on the same level, faggot

>> No.5695850
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>playing Thief on Expert
>club archer in the head wrong so he gets alerted and readies his bow
>hit him repeatedly to at least keep him getting stunned
>he flees through a secret door
>follow him
>its the barracks
>the way back is locked

I'm considering that maybe I should bear the shame and drop the difficulty to Hard after this mission

>> No.5695851
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Shotguns, knights, and demons are always a good combination.

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>> No.5695859
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Looking real good so far.

>> No.5695897


sure, why not. better someone give it a shot than no one ever give it a shot.

>> No.5695934

Man life is so meaningless... We're all wasting time here.

>> No.5695939

>first map
>already looks that good
i;m going to kill myself on friday

>> No.5695940

Why is the D33M shotty so shit?

>> No.5695946

Is Golden Souls as a scotformer?

>> No.5695954

Rise Of The Triad

>> No.5695959

I do love games where both you and the enemy are glass cannons.

>> No.5695964
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Don't beat yourself up.
I have prior 3D experience, just nothing involving retro shooters. I'm also copying a lot from id1 maps right now.
Gonna be looking forward to everyone's maps.

>> No.5695979

Nice oxymoron.

>> No.5695990

Why? Because "waste of time" implies some main goal while previous stated that there is none or because I'm posting this on 4chan?

>> No.5695991 [DELETED] 


>> No.5695995

Sorry, I keep getting them mixed up.

>> No.5695996

m8. The idea is, if life is so meaningless, then how is it possible to be wasting time?

>> No.5696000

Life is a window in time. Time is meaningless. Wasting something meaningless.

>> No.5696002
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On the last level of death wish "Dead End"
I killed all the zombies but nothing is happening, what do I do?

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>> No.5696019
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>the zombie comes out and is like pic related

>> No.5696020

no every wasted second we spend here is a second closer our own trip to hell

man I can't wait to get killed (again) so I can come as as a skellington

>> No.5696024
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wtf I glitched it
I ran into the edge of the fire for 30 seconds and everything exploded and then the portal opened

>> No.5696031

what's the best .pak file editor?

>> No.5696036

for quake? probably PakExplorer, what are you trying to change

>> No.5696037

yes for quack, I'm trying to replace the original e2m6 for the edited version that adds this

>> No.5696043

just drop that map in your \id1\maps folder and name it e2m6.bsp, any sourceport worth its salt overrides pak contents with loose files
there also looks to be a comment mentioning a pre-mixed version of e2m6

>> No.5696047

Maybe it was a timer instead of a deaths trigger? Sounds wacky and unlikely but WHO KNOWS

>> No.5696048

Whats the consensus on the new Shadow Warrior games? They're on sale and I know pretty much nothing about them.

>> No.5696050
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Can we talk about quake champions here since /arena/ is dead

>> No.5696054

Nah I figured that every time I ran into the fire at a certain angle tchernobog would say something. So I just ran at the corner and it started exploding and after a while of that, it opened

>> No.5696056

yeah I'm using that version, so there's no need to change it inside the .pak? if I do a normal playthrough of ep 2 it'll show up instead of vanilla map 6?

>> No.5696071
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Oh, so a puzzle. Let's call it that. That fits Blood.

>> No.5696074

Wasted time is when you are not playing DOOM.

>> No.5696079

>there's no need to change it inside the .pak?
no there is not, that's literally what i just typed

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>> No.5696084
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alright sorry I just wanted to be sure, thanks anon

>> No.5696090

Graf should optimize how his engine handles the light actors. They aren't exactly AI's so no need for check if player is in the line of sight or whatever it is. Also some sort of (PVS ??) culling for them so no need for render them every frame even they aren't visible for the player.

>> No.5696091

I just played an online match of Quake III Arena on a handheld while on the toilet
This is definitely the future I chose, what a time to be alive dudes

>> No.5696097

you can't handle sociopaths, anon?

>> No.5696102
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several questions
1: how do I get rid of those pixels?, how do I apply the palette in texmex?, do I need a palette without the last row of pixels?
2: can I make a 2d fence?
3: can I make transparent glass?

>> No.5696105
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which difficulty do you use

>> No.5696107

Episode 3 of Blood was pretty shite. Are episode 4 or the expansions any better?

>> No.5696108

Those pixels are because you used one of the fullbright colors.

>> No.5696110

is that the goldeneye watch tower?

>> No.5696112

>1: how do I get rid of those pixels?
those are fullbright pixels. tick the option in texmex that says 'ignore fullbright colors' or something similar.
> how do I apply the palette in texmex?
texmex automatically applies the quake palette to any imported textures. you can often get better results by tweaking the colors in an actual graphics editor ahead of time, though.
>do I need a palette without the last row of pixels?
>2: can I make a 2d fence?
yes, but it requires ericw's tools along with a skip texture and the _mirrorinside function, and usually looks like crud anyway because quake doesn't use any 2d fence textures by default. just make a proper 3d fence and set it as func_detail so it doesn't cause three hours of vis time.
>3: can I make transparent glass?
yes, make the glass a func_wall and give it an alpha key with a value of 0 to 1.

>> No.5696113

Seems like you already know the answer to that question.

>> No.5696114

Can anybody tell me how to make respawning ammo one at a time with acs?
Making continuosly respawning ammo is easy, but how can I make it so the game recognizes that there is already one of those and doesn't throw another in there?

>> No.5696119
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Helpful anons get a HUH

>> No.5696123

Why doesn't /doom/ make an arena fps in a collab of anons that got the skills? Or map packs for other arena shooters? E.g. UT, Quake 3, TF2

>> No.5696131
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bloodbath in strife is outright broken in gzdoom; the enemies just do the attack states more quickly in vanilla, but they also attack as often as possible in gzdoom
compare the webm (gzdoom) to this (vanilla): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8UKGuLStqA

>> No.5696134

>What should I listen to while mapping for Doom?

Maybe? I don't know.

>> No.5696136
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thanks, have a picture of my cat

>> No.5696137

Because Zandronum is dying

>> No.5696138
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bloodbath is the nightmare mode so it makes sense why they'd be faster in gzdoom

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>> No.5696141

So how is the map pack gonna work in the end?
Does the person organizing it create a start map and connect then all together?

>> No.5696145
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...could it be?

>> No.5696146

There have been a few doom collabs in the past, the issue is getting people to branch out.

>> No.5696147

We don't fucking know, apparently they fell off the face of the earth. Don't even know if there's a naming scheme to the maps (there should be, by the way).

>> No.5696152

HUH lead doesn't know what he's doing at all, apparently. Expect ??????

>> No.5696154

I thought the first one was a pretty good shooter with fun swordplay, the second one was a fucking awful borderlands ripoff where the same dozen levels are recycled for the entire game.

>> No.5696157

Ranger already sticks his guns under his armpits in Quake 3 like in Goldeneye

>> No.5696160

Where exactly do you think a gun is supposed to go?

>> No.5696161
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oh yeah i'ts the first time I "organized" something like this so I'm pretty much playing it by ear
which is to say I barely know what I'm doing

the idea is to link all the maps I get into a main hub like AD does it, should be fairly simple, so that's what I'm going with

I didn't fall of the face of the earth I'm just a bit busy working on other things, keep in mind I cant help a lot with mapping questions since I'm a newbie myself

>> No.5696162

Ranger is James Bond who took one peek too many in the wrong occult books. Good. This is my headcanon now.

>> No.5696163
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Make a good map.

>> No.5696165

I'll make a visual shitpost of a map and you can't stop me.

>> No.5696167

>the idea is to link all the maps I get into a main hub like AD does it
That seems to be a better idea if the maps were as large as AD maps.
With short maps I wouldn't mind just having a map for difficulty selection and the actual maps being roughly ordered by difficulty.

>> No.5696168

I just played through Blood+Cryptic Passage+Post Mortem on Lightly Broiled. Episode 4 is alright - the first level is pretty fun, level three is a bit labyrinthine. Ganglion Depths is a real motherfucker, but the level after is a bit easier. Cryptic Passage is okay. I had a good amount of fun with Post Mortem, although the second to last level is a real fucking nut tugger.

>> No.5696171

Could do a mini-campaign if a bunch of small maps happen to have the same theme.

>> No.5696175

No I mean he literally tucks his guns under his armpit and runs around shooting them somehow just like in Goldeneye

>> No.5696195
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as for the naming scheme, I think it's safe to go like this

the way mapsets like the xmas jams do it is use the name of the author, but I figured we might as well use the map name since some of the submissions may be attributed as anonymous

would depend of how many submissions we get

if we get half a dozen people we could release them as individual maps like your average speedmapping pack
if we get enough maps that are also consistent in theme we can do like you said and group them as mini episodes
I like the idea of a hub since then the player can try maps at their own pace, but I'm open to ideas

>> No.5696210

Oh my god, I want to pet! that cat.

>> No.5696212

He has an armpit on his chest?

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>> No.5696218

Oh. Quake 3. NEVERMIND.

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I'm heading to bed boys
if you make next thread while I'm out please shill for HUH

>> No.5696294

You need to stick with it more. Play maps and actual analyze what you like about them, from general level design, enemy placement, aesthetics, lighting, geometry, and themes. You get more creative the more you stick with it and the more you copy stuff you like.

>> No.5696308

> we're going to kill you!
> thanks, bye

>> No.5696313

If the txt file or thread on doomworld says vanilla, limit removing, boom, or mbf, then jumping is inherently not intended.
If it says its for ZDoom or derived ports, then you should be fine to jump, unless the mod specifically states that its not intended.

>> No.5696338

also, take insperation from real life. see a cool bridge outside? take a picture of it

>> No.5696357

If one looked at the devblog they'll know what the devs were actually trying to make the entire time, I don't know how the fuck the marketing completely misunderstood what they were selling. Too bad the game wasn't even that good at being a Spelunky-like FPS.

>> No.5696393
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Anyone have a good compression free version of this?
Tried to upscale it myself but it looks pretty bad

>> No.5696394

Whats the best way to play Blood?

>> No.5696443

BloodGDX or NBlood.

>> No.5696449

with two hands

>> No.5696461

im sorry but my other hand is occupied elsewhere when playing blood

>> No.5696472

oh I thought I was the only one who petted their dog while playing games on this board. cute.

>> No.5696473
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How do you take your gore, sir?

>Grounded? (Droplets w/most options turned on)
>Over the top? (Nashgore w/ its colored blood patch)
>Ridiculous? (Ketchup & Brutal Meme)

>> No.5696486

Droplets is too performance heavy for me these days. No idea what happened there. Wasn't always the case.
Low-medium Nash without the extras is where it's at.

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>> No.5696496

So if you could run Droplets without problems, you'd have stuck with it?

>> No.5696503

Probably. I'm happy with Nash now though. Good customization options.

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>> No.5696534
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So which renderer should I use in EDuke?

>> No.5696550

The one you like

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>> No.5696562

That's the thing, I don't know what the benefits of each are beyond the obvious stuff like "real" 3D levels. It's my first real playthrough after realizing that the DOS version was just too much in the way of setup to be fun

>> No.5696564

>Weapon in Blood is called "Life Leech"
>think my game is broken because it doesn't fucking give me health when hitting/killing enemies
>check the wiki
>apparently it did give you health at one point but the devs removed that aspect to the weapon after an update

Fucking why?

>> No.5696580

any good doom weapon addons? I want a change in weapons, I'm bored to see the same weapons again and again. Is there a cosmetic change to weapons that doesn't affect the gameplay?

>> No.5696585

Happened the same to me. I guess it has to do with new GZDoom versions.

>> No.5696640

Brutal Doom

>> No.5696642

Cosmetic? Go for smooth doom

>> No.5696663

High Noon Drifter is neat. You can turn off reloading and the various other features if you want.

>> No.5696674

I'm looking for new weapons. Weapons that look different, a cosmetic change of weapons that won't change the gameplay. Smooth Doom doesn't do that, just tried it, the weapons are the same.

>> No.5696675

Brutal Doom

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>> No.5696683

Final Doomer?

>> No.5696686

Thanks, it's kinda difficult.

Looks good, might give it a shot.

>> No.5696696

Has anyone here played Extermination Day before? Is it any good?

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>> No.5696706

Smooth Doom lets you use the Doom 64 weapons.

>> No.5696716

are there any girls that are into doom, I have never met one

>> No.5696720

I think I have seen one once. Or maybe I imagined that.

>> No.5696734
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I wonder if one could reimplement the pre-beta's status bar messages with zscript

>> No.5696746

I'm sure it can be done.

>> No.5696756
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>"They died in my arms. So many lost friends...but they're with me now."
>"He cried, you know. Said he didn't want to die. Then he did."
>"An endless row of graves...too many to put the names on."
>"You were there, on Phobos. I saw you running away. I found you now."

>> No.5696760

>61 FPS
Your framerate is fine. The Aliens abducted your resolution because that looks like pixelshit.

>> No.5696809

Playing Shadow Warrior for the first time and just wanted to say that the Nuke is the coolest weapon in any videogame.

>> No.5696820

Hey faggots, what's the FPS (retro obviously) that you play the most?

>> No.5696824

Brutal Doom

>> No.5696825

Why do /vr/ hates it?

>> No.5696840

>author is way more of a fag than a usual norm for community, takes monthly patreonbucks for single minor update every year or two
>shitton of bugs said fag does not know how to fix (and claims to have fixed). Most apparent on non-vanilla maps
>absence of balance, making every gun a cookie-cutter-do-it-all, and every enemy a glass cannon (cybie takes just 6 ssg shells ffs)
>ridiculous feature bloat, turning a mod that have been pretty much complete about 5 years ago into a disgusting mess of disjointed ideas like "map beautificator"
>fags cite it as good "introduction mod" for Doom, turning people who otherwise could've been interested in other mods into other BD-fags that can't play anything except BD.

>> No.5696852

I just think it's ugly. A bad legacy for Adrian's work.

>> No.5696873

New thread when?

>tfw no time
I just want to make a map, but I have just started with the Trenchbroom basics and probably won't have time to actually do something nice.

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Nigger you have over a week left. Get to it.

>> No.5696882
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I can't even do a box

>> No.5696932

To map a box, first you must invent the worldspawn.

>> No.5696934

wtf is this?

>> No.5696937
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Is there a way to change the icons in Doom Explorer, /vr/? Is there anything important missing in my wad folder?

[.] [..] action2.wad
BLASPHEM.WAD bonus.wad chex3.wad
delaweare.wad [docs] DOOM.WAD
DOOM2.WAD files.txt freedm.wad
freedoom1.wad freedoom2.wad HACX.WAD
megagame.wad MM8BDM-v5d.pk3 NERVE.WAD
PLUTONIA.WAD ROTWB.wad skulltag_actors.pk3
skulltag_data.pk3 square1.pk3 STRIFE1.WAD
TNT.WAD Virus.wad VirusRes.wad

>> No.5696938

If nobody else has already I'll make a start on it now, will include the mapping project in the news.

>> No.5696941

please watch out for the [embed]s

>> No.5696943

Well a buddy of mine didn't make the pull request for 4chan X's 'Copy Text' for no reason.

>> No.5696953

New thread.


>> No.5697145

Unironically want this.

>> No.5697148

Caleb gets lit up like a Christmas Tree and screams his head off if he even survives a fireball, Duke is definitely more robust.

>> No.5697184

>Over the top laugh was invented by anime
Kill yourself retard

>> No.5697269

>more vaseline please

>> No.5697362
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What if NuDoom actually is not just an alternate Universe, but also D:E goes further and states that the demons of "hell" you've been fighting are in fact inhabitants of a realm in the Universe known as Otherspace. The technoangels you briefly see in the more recent trailers are Aliens from another part of the galaxy that is closer to the center (basically they are from the galactic inner rim), and they not only have mapped much of the galaxy and several parts of interstellar space, but they are currently in a centuries-long war against the demons. "Hell" turns out to be one of many lower planes of space that can be called "otherspace"

>> No.5697406

sounds like something out of the novels

>> No.5697646

#wow #whoa

>> No.5697716

In Doom? Grounded, I think the violent action is all in the sound design and the speed. In modern games? Give me as much violence as you can pack in, I wanna see heads popping like balloons filled with sausage.

>> No.5697739

sounds fucking horrible

>> No.5697798

>Blood first episode
All time classic. KDITD tier.
>Blood second episode
Still good but not as strong as the first episode
>Blood third episode
>Blood fourth episode

Why do people consider Blood a classic if it was only good for half of the game?

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