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YOU CAME TO THE WRONG CANTEEN Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 16:05:10 No.2581686 [Reply] [Original]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>2573346
(We mainly talk Doom, but Unreal/Duke/Quake/Marathon/whatever are also welcome! Let's post like gentlemen)

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===WHERE DO I GET WADS?===

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Vanilla/Boom: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/
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Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 16:05:20 No.2581687

===NEWS===

[08-01] Summer Games Done Quick: the videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90A3WdbKP2c Unreal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JYyqUU3Hq0 Scythe.wad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN2JzwBmS8A Spear of Destiny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xpJoI42tsQ Super Noah's Ark 3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSc1U-ii1Qk Doom 64

[08-01] Anon map release: DIKZAK v1.2 demo (a jokewad)
https://archive.moe/vr/post/2580753
http://www.mediafire.com/download/dldizo52c4mrcv2/DIKZAK_Demo_version.7z

[07-30] Anon map release: jukejoint.wad (for gzdoom, cc4-tex + colored lighting)
https://archive.moe/vr/post/2576254
https://mega.co.nz/#!g1wCwSwY!2IX40LCaSHap4ykfmHdsrXFN31_m48GqOcZJaB8DJqc

[07-29] Quakecon matches are being uploaded
https://www.youtube.com/user/QuakeCon2011

[07-25] Adventures of Square v1.2 is out
http://adventuresofsquare.com/downloads.php

[07-25] Doomworld forced into early move by DNS issues, but was successful.
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1400546

[07-24] Arstechnica article on the new Doom
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/07/hands-on-with-the-new-doom-the-detail-of-doom-3-the-speed-of-doom-2/

[07-24] Andrew Hulshult is teasing a remix for Rise of the Triad
https://youtu.be/4R_SuQX1iS0

[07-24] Doom 4 stuff from QuakeCon: new screenshots, multiplayer, weapons
http://www.gamesradar.com/doom-multiplayer-info-hands-on/
http://www.dsogaming.com/screenshot-news/doom-new-quakecon-2015-screenshots-released/
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/07/23/quakecon-2015-first-hands-on-with-doom-multiplayer
http://www.pcgamer.com/hands-on-dooms-coolest-new-gun-is-powered-by-sprinting/

[07-23] Another Doom High Resolution Texture Pack release
http://dengine.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=13849#p13849

[07-23] /vr/doom booru
http://vrdoom.booru.org/

[07-23] Zandronum 2.1.2
http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=6205

[07-23] Crispy Doom v3.0
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1396774

===

Please reply to this post with news.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 16:15:54 No.2581707 File: 755 KB, 3456x2109, DOOM-4K.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] does /vr/doom think doom 4 will be good?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 16:16:33 No.2581708 >>2581707 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 16:17:50 No.2581712 >>2581707 /vr/doom is not a hivemind. We have people that think yes, we have people that think no, we have people that want to wait until it comes out to see.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 16:18:29 No.2581713 >>2581707 Do we have to do this debate all over again let's keep to revenantposting, arguing about filters, teaching doombuilder basics and gushing over GMOTA/DS like usual

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 16:20:28 No.2581718 >>2581707 if rage was good, why wouldn't that be?

Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 16:21:44 No.2581720

>>2581707
It will be just OK. Is it the new Doom that we have been waiting for? No, not really. Does it look more appealing than most FPS games released in the past couple of years. I think so. I don't really plan on buying it, but probably will anyway.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 16:29:53 No.2581736
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Almost finished with a 800*600 res version of the hud for all the poverty-stricken peasants out there.

This is getting exciting since the only things left to do before the beta release is a dialogue system, more comments in the code, and restructuring the pk3 a bit.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 16:31:09 No.2581737 >>2581736 Can't wait to see it. This is going to be cool.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 16:38:35 No.2581757 >>2581707 It looks a bit generic to me, but as long as there are plans for proper mod tools and mod support, I'm down with it.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 16:39:20 No.2581758
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>>2581672
>I need to finish up monsters, implement Blaz's voice.
I thought you weren't going to put any talking because of that one time you tried putting in one liners, but I see what you're saying about finishing the other monsters. I'm looking forward to seeing the edits, but they still seem to fit in with the other monsters combat wise.

>And I feel like the mod is still pretty unbalanced because of some of the subweapons.
Yeah, this is true. I don't know which is which, but POW Dagger seems to completely dominate everything else as long as you're near the target. Once you get indoors it just crushes everything. Also, the missle subshot seems better than everything else since it drenches the battlefield with balls and damage. I remember when I used earthshaker all the time; not anymore.

>And finally I feel Blaz is a mess due to how convoluted his weapons are, like most people aren't aware that you can throw the sword, the life drain effects, etc.
Like another anon said, if you had a more information "How to Play" screen(s) then that'd help clear up a lot of confusion. For example: I thought you had removed the life-steal function because it didn't seem to be functioning, but that might be because I was too busy playing instead. Also, I didn't fully understand the rings/necklaces and their function besides powering up things.

>I could just be too hard on myself though
Probably. Blaz is fun as shit to play as, and his whole kit is fun to use; it just needs some clarification.

I fucking love GMOTA as it is now, and I can totally understand wanting to fix some item/weapon balance; however, you saying you want to "rehaul Blaz" reminds me of how you'd start changing things that didn't needed to be changed. I'm curious as to why and how you'd do the overhaul.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 16:52:38 No.2581798 File: 1.38 MB, 1920x1080, gzdoom 2015-08-01 22-50-29.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just dl'd blade of agony to see what the fuzz is about Holy shit I'm fucking floored, the quality is absolutely crazy so far

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 17:04:52 No.2581827 >>2581712 and people who don't care at all and are sick of hearing about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 17:07:06 No.2581834 >>2581798 Agreed, shame the game becomes next to unplayable after the second mission (not sure if unfinished or just ZDoom acting screwy)

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 17:07:52 No.2581838 >>2581707 I'd say that we all just shut up about it for a while and wait and see how it plays out when it's released.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 17:24:21 No.2581879 >>2581737 I'm starting to feel hope I'll actually have the time and motivation to make a game with it. Man, it'll be great mapping some again.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 17:40:16 No.2581913 >>2581798 That's Tormentor for you. A sperg when it comes to dealing with people, brute forces his way through contributions, relies far more on pretty effects than good gameplay, but the production values are almost always through the roof.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 17:44:34 No.2581917 >>2581913 oh it's one of his? that explains why it keeps getting hyped here every 1-2 threads

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 17:49:58 No.2581929 >>2581798 I liked it, but the level design could use some work. It's not always clear where to go. I got stuck on the first level because I didn't figure out to shoot the fire extinguisher which led to 10 minutes of walking around confused.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 17:57:53 No.2581939

>>2581917
>>2581913

Oh yeah, another sign of Tormentor's works:
Hype hype hype hype, constant hype posting.

I've been trying to ignore his posting and his threads because I want to give it a fair shake when it's finally released, and his incessant hyping is just going to mess that up, be it souring it or sweetening it.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 18:17:15 No.2581971

>>2581758

Well by voice I'm talking like. Grunts and yells. Marty recorded a bunch of those and I'd like to use them. And honestly I say I'd LIKE to tweak Blaz, I'm not gonna because I'm pretty sure that'd get a lynch mob after my ass. I'm just hard on myself and I want strive for perfection like a jackass.

Honestly Blaz is done mechanically, I just want those grunts and HIYAS in, finish up the monsters, and then start on kustam

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 18:20:03 No.2581976 Question: Are there any Japanese influenced mods out there besides Demonsteele?

Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 18:25:57 No.2581993

>>2581976

Yes.
WildWeasel made The Stranger, which is a super early gameplay mod and it shows, but even despite its age it's still pretty fun.
Otacon once made a mapset where you play as Priss and shoot possessed otaku. It's kind of dumb. Cool sprites, though.
Black Warrior is difficult as shit to acquire and unfinished as can be, but offers a very unique and different style of gameplay.
Swan Fox...well, everyone knows about Swan Fox. It's easily one of the most fun experiences I've had, but not a single one of it was intentional--mechanically, it's a total wreck.
Doom Radys Classes might be cheating a little bit since I think it was made by someone Japanese? But still, it's got a whole ton of anime and VN grills fighting demons.
And then there's HDoom, which is "japanese influenced" by virtue of "lewd anime demons" but that's about it.

Honestly, I'd love to have some kind of giant mecha/SHOGO style mod.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 18:33:09 No.2582008 >>2581976 There is TheCraftyTitan's Doom Hack.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 18:38:28 No.2582017 File: 9 KB, 250x140, DarkInquisitor.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2581993 >yfw seeing Dark Inquisitor for the first time

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 18:39:59 No.2582021 playing doom 2 for the first time I´m now level 30 and HOLY FUCK how do I NOT die in that level?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 18:52:55 No.2582045 >>2582021 To kill the Icon of Sin, shoot its head until it dies.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 18:53:41 No.2582048 >>2582021 Get the megaspheres on the sides when you're low. Kill archviles ASAP.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 18:57:19 No.2582058 >>2582021 git gud :^)

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 19:00:04 No.2582064 File: 29 KB, 588x440, 4ertgf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hideous Destructor makes me cry inside

Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 19:00:40 No.2582065
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>>2582021
Be like Jeff.

He's looking at an old unruly evil, him and everyone he cares about is in peril and he has to succeed, his friends are in danger, if he doesn't they're all done for, he doesn't know exactly what he's looking at, he is crying uncontrollably, this event might scar him for life, but he just continues to load and fire his rocket launcher at the evil before him.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 19:07:27 No.2582073

So I joined a server, and upon finally spawning, the map had trillions of enemies. I died almost instantly, and I looked at the map to see that everybody else had immediately fucked right off, at least 10 yards away from the spawn in mere seconds.
I know I'm going to get a ton of shit for this, but I'm just curious to know what the fuck happened there.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 19:16:03 No.2582087

>>2582073
>I know I'm going to get a ton of shit for this
Why? It was probably a 'slaughterwad' you played, and they pretty much work like that.

The reason the other players got so far is because they'd played the map before and knew to strafe-run to cover ASAP most likely.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 19:21:29 No.2582093

>>2582087
Oh, I thought I'd be burned at the stake for not knowing something, like a lot of other communities I've talked with.

I was just confused, and a bit pissed off since one of those guys said "that really weeded out the weak" as soon as I died. Now I don't know what else to expect among the other servers.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 19:24:16 No.2582097

>>2582093
>>2582073

If you're not very familiar with the game, don't join slaughtermap servers. Anything with Chillax, 12-in-1, slaughterfest 2013, or etc, avoid like the plague.
Some people take strange amounts of pride at being able to click keys slightly better than other people in a 21-year-old game.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 19:25:06 No.2582102 File: 86 KB, 699x610, 1434874013881.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2582093 lol look at this weak lil nerd, gimmie ur milk money befor i gives you a swirly

Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 19:36:53 No.2582123

>>2582093
>Oh, I thought I'd be burned at the stake for not knowing something, like a lot of other communities I've talked with.
This isn't the dota or lol community anon.

>Now I don't know what else to expect among the other servers.
I never play online so I can't give you an answer on that, but you could always ask someone here to host - or do it yourself. /vr/ does get to together and play occasionally.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 19:41:02 No.2582131 File: 405 KB, 499x263, 1432515610760.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgUB8aH9eZI&feature=youtu.be&t=11m5s >No additional pc mod tools beyond SnapMap

>>	guy you replied to Sat, Aug 1, 2015 19:43:23 No.2582136 >>2581993 I've kind of been wondering if something relatively close to Titanfall would be possible or Mechwarrior for that matter

Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 19:47:49 No.2582141

>>2582136
>mechwarrior
Yeah, absolutely possible. It's just a lot of work.

Personally I'd much prefer a take on Terra Nova: Strike Force Centauri. It's an ancient tactical mecha game that was way before it's time in some aspects, and way too late in others.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 19:51:00 No.2582152
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If DIZAK guy is still here I just wanna say the ammo pickups in map 6 was improved greatly however the only thing I'd recommend changing is getting rid of the two ammo boxes at the plasma rifle secret. Not that it makes the map easier but it just seems kinda redundant when a shitload of enemies in that area are already dropping plasma ammo after you kill them.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 20:12:24 No.2582189 >>2582131 Alright, that actually does bother me.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 20:19:08 No.2582196

>CC map 15
>11 secrets
>only manage to find the first one near the beginning, and another one halfway through
>die about 30 times throughout the entire fucking map because I'm fucking sucking ass for some reason and literally everything killed me almost once by now
>finally reach the exit switch
>still 9 secrets to go
>search the most obvious spots, namely the ones with a blood splat next to them, walls with different textures
>no dice
>there's a fucking room filled with health bonuses and I can't even get in
>still 100 enemies left

I'm literally at the 15th god damn level and my autism is being tickled this fucking hard already

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 20:20:11 No.2582202 File: 198 KB, 500x375, 1427068294987.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2581757 >>2582131 I really hope that there will be tools to modify game mechanics. Even if it will just be PC exclusive.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 20:23:42 No.2582210 >>2582202 >>2582131 I'm fairly certain the'll release the same but adapted sdk they released with rage for it,

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 20:28:57 No.2582220 File: 982 KB, 320x287, oh bother.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2582131 >Only used to build corridors >No open areas >No outdoor areas

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 20:35:03 No.2582229 >>2582202 They already confirmed there is NO proper modding tools. Only snapmap.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 20:40:26 No.2582242 >>2582229 And in another interview they confirmed there will be an SDK release. So what the fuck is going on? Is there some kind of internal strife?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 20:44:50 No.2582252 >>2582242 >Is there some kind of internal strife? More likely incompetence and poor information within the company. I'm pretty sure there'll be an SDK, perhaps they meant snapmap is the only thing that'll ship with the game from the beginning?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 20:46:05 No.2582257 >>2582229 >>2582242 They said something about advanced mod tools for PC at the quakecon panel.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 20:54:02 No.2582261 >>2582141 >Terra Nova Oh shit, I remember that game. Would love a Doom mod on that, or a modern remake of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 20:58:14 No.2582270 Help quell my autism, guys: Should I put ZDoom and other source ports in my "Games" folder or my "Emulation" folder?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 21:01:32 No.2582276 >>2582270 Games ZDoom is not an emulator, it's a source-port

Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 21:06:53 No.2582285

>>2582261
>Would love a Doom mod on that, or a modern remake of it.
I'm considering it as my next future side project since my main thing has reached the halfway point at least. Won't be a remake of anything, but some kind of mix between terra nova and system shock gameplay-wise, maybe with light 'rpg elements'.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 21:33:39 No.2582325 >>2582270 That's easy in my case because I don't have a separate folder for emulators. Game installation directories and emulators sit side by side in my Games folder, but I access them via a folder full of shortcuts.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 21:34:14 No.2582327 >>2582285 You probably will have to make custom sprites though, since to my knowledge you never had a visible weapon, just a small picture on your hud. Although it might save time since they're all wrist mounted weapons it seems.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 21:37:50 No.2582335 >>2582327 I would make all the graphics from scratch if iI decide to do it, maybe consider 3d models even.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 22:14:35 No.2582401
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I created a short survey regarding Doom because I was curious to see the statistics of how /vr/ plays Doom.

If you want to take it, here it is: http://surveynuts.com/surveys/take?id=35393&c=302397809HJLV

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 22:19:36 No.2582412 >>2582401 Why do you wanna know my hardware?

Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 22:24:12 No.2582414

>>2582412
I was curious about how GZDoom could be modified to increase framerates for some players.

For example, a recent change to the source code in Git was to cast certain values as doubles instead of floats. That's a good thing for modern CPUs that perform double-precision floating point arithmetic natively, but can slow things down for older CPUs.

Also, current GZDoom requires a much higher GL version due to its increasing use of shaders, with a minute if any change in graphical detail, and also causes problems for users of certain videocards.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 22:27:24 No.2582417 >>2582414 Are you a GLOOME developer perchance?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 22:30:36 No.2582425 >>2582417 I've helped marrub a couple times through posts here, but I haven't made any commits. Been thinking about getting more involved; definitely interested in the project. But I have work and IRL stuff to do, too.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 22:41:24 No.2582450 >>2582136 there was one with power armor that you could eject from and detonate? anyone remember the name of it?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 22:57:53 No.2582478 >>2581798 But is it actually fun?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 23:27:49 No.2582531 >>2582196 This is why I disable monster/secret totals from being shown during the level. No longer feel like I have to search for shit for the sake of 100%, and when I do manage to get 100%, it feels pretty good.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 23:41:38 No.2582562
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>play unholy realms on UV first time
>reach map07
>save in the middle of a monster ambush right before the end
>end level
>map09 et al easy as shit
>reach map11
>god damn it, I'm actually having fun
>cacodemon spam
>revenant closet
>topkek, step it up cunt
>red keycard ambush
>6 hell knights, mancubi surrounding
>briefly get them to infight
>"holy shit I can't really recall the last time I died"
>one of them teleports right behind me
>get one-shot blankpoint by a fucking fat cunt
>all the way back to map07's ending

why is it that I either get my shit slapped almost inmediately every time I quicksave every 20 seconds whenever I play a new megawad and get mad at the game, ragequit and have zero fun, and also die everytime I spend too long without saving anyways either because I'm having too much fun and the game forces me to either lose all my guns or take me back to my last goddamn birthday

this fucking game sometimes

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 23:46:22 No.2582568 >>2582562 either enable autosaves or just pistol start the level

Anonymous Sat, Aug 1, 2015 23:49:29 No.2582576
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I have no idea what I'm doing with outdoor areas.

Lack of Doom 4's PC SDK killed all hype for me. I'll pick it up out of loyalty, but I want SW2 Coop more now.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 00:09:35 No.2582605 File: 19 KB, 387x250, doom.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Drawing Doomguy's helmet is a lot harder than it looks. It's quite easy to screw up the detailing/dimensions. I can see why the design got "streamlined" or whatever for Quake 3.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 00:14:26 No.2582613 >>2582605 A lot of that shit seems unnecessary from a practical standpoint anyway. Helmets shouldn't have lots of flat angular surfaces and little nooks and shit.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 00:20:15 No.2582627

having trouble finding weapon retexture packs for ultimate doom. I just want something to spice up whats in the middle of my screen during vanilla runs without altering the gameplay. any ideas?

nothing limit removing or boom only because I'm using chocolate

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 00:29:29 No.2582645 >>2582627 You ever tried Smooth Doom? Adds a lot more frames to the animations and you can swap the weapon textures for Doom 64 ones.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 00:30:31 No.2582649 File: 20 KB, 581x364, 1431735510763.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2582645 Oh wait I'm retarded and didn't read the rest of your post before replying.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 00:40:17 No.2582669 >>2582605 I kinda like the Q3 design better to be honest >>2582627 looking for mods while using a sourceport that's designed for a true to vanilla gameplay is kind of misguided don't you think

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 00:46:47 No.2582678 >>2582605 >>2581687 Speaking of which: Yahtzee judges Doom by the cover: escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/judging-by-the-cover/10295-Doom-Cover-Box-Art-Review

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 00:54:12 No.2582687 >>2582669 A sprite/texture pack is also considered a mod, anon. It modifies the graphics. Dime just called Scythe a mod for Doom in the SGDQ stream too.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 00:55:49 No.2582692 Is there any wad that turns doom gameplay more close to the build engine one, more specifically Duke Nukem? Adding stuff like items which really improve the gameplay, having to crouch/jump to carry on in a map.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 00:56:18 No.2582693 >>2582687 >A sprite/texture pack is also considered a mod, anon. It modifies the graphics. that's my point he wants a mod while using chocolate doom that's silly

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 00:58:05 No.2582696 >>2582693 how is it silly?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 00:59:05 No.2582698 >>2582693 >he wants a mod while using chocolate doom So? Now you're telling me the only kind of mods that should be referred as so are ZDoom gameplay mods?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 01:01:29 No.2582702 >>2582678 I was hoping for a more serious analysis :3

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 01:25:13 No.2582721 >>2581686 the baron on the left looks like a shitty fnaf fan drawing the shotgunner in the middle looks like lex luthor

>>	MadoKage Sun, Aug 2, 2015 01:53:03 No.2582739 File: 48 KB, 130x173, DUKE.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Some OC I made

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>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 02:03:12 No.2582750 >>2582739 >no bubblegum >no problem!

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 02:22:56 No.2582765
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Hey /vr/, I recently abandoned a project (you can probably draw some conclusions if you recognize the HUD) and now I'm remaking it into something new. What do you think about my art style here?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 02:24:56 No.2582768 File: 143 KB, 640x479, D3D_E4L6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2582739 "Looks like its time for me to go postal!" http://vocaroo.com/i/s1XAB0zWFyJo

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 02:28:20 No.2582772 >>2582765 Looks pretty stylish. I can dig it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 02:41:16 No.2582783 >>2582669 >I kinda like the Q3 design better to be honest Well, its helmet is closer to the sprite.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 02:48:18 No.2582792 >>2582693 >he wants a mod while using chocolate doom And contrary to what you believe, mods that work with vanilla/chocolate do exist. Remember Instadoom?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 02:52:42 No.2582794 >>2582687 >Dime just called Scythe a mod for Doom in the SGDQ stream too. i imagine he made the simplification knowing doomers were only a subset of the audience.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 02:54:21 No.2582795 >>2582562 heh i think it was this kind of thing that weaned me off using savegames. forgetting to save is so annoying.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 02:56:56 No.2582801 I wonder what will be done after FDTWID and UDTWID eventually get finished? Memento Mori the way TiC did?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 03:01:06 No.2582803 File: 13 KB, 255x177, I NEED A HELL KNIGHT.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2582801 We go on to UDINO and FDINO

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 03:03:25 No.2582804
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>>2582801
i'm hoping for No Rest For The Living. i love the design of it and would really like more in the same style.

perhaps some of the other commercial pwads, like Perdition's Gate.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 03:06:53 No.2582805 >>2582804 I'm a Double Nazi! BRILLIANT!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 03:10:04 No.2582806 >>2582803 Meh. While I do like some levels in D2INO (especially Xaser's wolfenstein), it was just new levels that are based on the level titles. Doesn't really feel like a tribute to the old school days.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 03:14:04 No.2582808 >>2582806 Also, IIRC, INO's team was a mixture of veteran and newbie mappers, which resulted in an uneven mapset overall.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 03:15:32 No.2582809 >>2582808 and it was rushed out without proper testing to meet an arbitrary deadline ("666 days in development!!")

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 03:17:48 No.2582813

>>2582131
>11:52
Modding and mapping doom has pretty much always been the most accessible foray into development in computer gaming. These numbskulls must be intimidated by it being old or something?

FFS this is the reason why I love Doom so much, its pretty much one of the only games ever that actually streamlines in all the right ways, but that's going to just be ruined now.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 03:20:18 No.2582815

>>2582806
>(especially Xaser's wolfenstein)
reminder nobody else had the privilege of using custom textures and sprites. if he'd had to follow the rules and use only stock resources like everybody else things might have been very different. as it is, he basically got to cheat, and then get fellated by the community for it. i don't see how this is very fair.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 03:23:18 No.2582817

>>2582815
>he basically got to cheat
Is it really cheating if everyone agreed on it and let him? It's not like he's not a skilled mapper who's unable to do something good without custom shit.

I mean, hell, they're not even "custom". They're still unbelievably limited--if anything, even more limited.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 03:23:36 No.2582819 >>2582815 Its a bit odd they would even enforce a rule like that. I would've thought because it was "in name only", that custom textures would have been free game.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 04:20:46 No.2582856 >>2581687 >Doomworld forced into early move by DNS issues, but was successful. The server move was because their host AtomicGamer was shutting down.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 04:28:02 No.2582862 >>2582856 and those DNS issues forced said move earlier.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 04:36:00 No.2582874 >>2582862 The DNS issues were because some people were still loading the old server. They already moved by that point.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 04:39:45 No.2582879 >>2582765 looks like GTA vice city very nice

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 04:49:42 No.2582884 >>2582765 >>2582879 This, please don't ever abandon it again. I'm a sucker for those chilly colors.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 04:54:07 No.2582889 >>2582152 Thanks. I removed them right away. The whole mod is one big learning process for me, so It's nice having people help me out and point out stuff like that.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 04:59:26 No.2582892 >>2582450 That was Necrodoom. Filename xa-necro.pk3. It's loads of fun on larger maps, but smaller maps will feel incredibely claustrophobic in my opinion. Still, a great mod

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 05:32:31 No.2582913 Music in Chocolate Doom is too loud, and whenever i turn it down, it resets to being loud when the midi loops, or a new midi plays. Any way to fix this?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 05:34:56 No.2582918 >>2582765 That image reminds me of the fact that I've always wished for a game that was basically GTA meets Fallout NV.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 06:14:55 No.2582938

>>2582913
I think I remember having that too, and it went away when I updated. What version do you have? The current ver is 2.2.0, which iirc fixed that bug. There's also an SDL 2.0 ver in the works on their Development page you can try.

You can also get daily builds here to see if it's fixed: http://latest.chocolate-doom.org/

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 06:38:08 No.2582951 >>2582938 No matter what version I have it still happens. I have to use OPL emultation in order to not have this problem. But OPL sounds like farts.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 06:53:29 No.2582964

>>2582951
Native MIDI and GUS emulation both do it? You're not usnig an external softsynth? Note that "GUS emulation" is more or less just Timidity. It'll sound the same as the usual windows synth if the gus patch field is left blank. I'd read that it has to do with an old sdl_mixer bug.

I should ask if you're on something other than Win7 though. Seems to work here with W7 x64.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 07:19:30 No.2582981 >>2582964 I use win7 64-bit. And yes, it does this with both native midi and gus emulation. What do you mean by external softsynth?

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 07:25:31 No.2582985

>>2582981
Some people use virtual midi device programs like VirtualMIDIsynth or BASSMIDI System Driver for richer midi playback, couldn't rule it out.

As for your problem, I don't know. I'm sure you'd get better help if you posted your issue on chocolate-doom's Github tracker.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 07:41:10 No.2582995
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No games make me feel like a macho badass like doom, duke or wolfenstein anymore.

Seriously i'm so tired of being a random grunt fag who is really out of shape and can only sprint 5 fucking feet.

Duke nukem forever was one of my last hopes, maybe doom 4 will live up but i reserve my judgement.

I also find it funny how everyone was using DNF as an example
>Lol macho badasses don't belong in modern day media EDGY TORTURED HEROES ARE WHERE IT'S AT
i'm not even kidding people legitimately said it just google a bit and i'm sure you'll find some results.

All in all I miss the old days, fuck this new shit.
I want to be the hero, not the zero.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 07:47:46 No.2582997
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>>2582995
I blame the focus on plot modern videos games have adopted for that. You feel like a bad ass in Doom because everything is short and to the point. Perfect example is the ending to episode 2. That's gotta be the most macho response to discover you've been floating over hell I've ever seen.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 07:52:39 No.2583003 >>2582995 blame the casual modern military kiddies

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 07:56:07 No.2583006 File: 327 KB, 1024x768, jam3dlc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reminder that RetroJam3DLC got released and that since Quaddicted is kill (for now) you have to manually install it. http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61216

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 08:07:47 No.2583018 >>2582997 >Modern day FPS protagonist's reaction to On the shores of hell's ending >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydxIeO-2C2M

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 08:09:52 No.2583019 >>2582794 Well, a wad is a mod.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 08:31:20 No.2583034 >>2581686 what´s the most controversiom wad you´ve played? mine is columbine

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 09:15:52 No.2583063 >>2582995 What about Shadow Warrior reboot? It's also getting a sequel next year so at least the reboot was successful in the market.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 09:36:12 No.2583090 Hmm, it seems Crispy Doom 3.0 with capped framerate runs slower than 2.3 which only has capped framerate.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 09:51:33 No.2583101 E3M3 is a bit tricky and I barely had any ammo for most of the level tbh, was fun.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 09:55:29 No.2583104 >>2583063 What's Wrack like?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 09:59:22 No.2583109 >>2583104 Sorry, haven't played it. I could try pirate-testing it, if you want me to

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 10:07:13 No.2583118 >>2581707 SNAPMAP N A P M A P

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 10:08:40 No.2583119 >>2582210 How is the rage sdk? I haven't heard of any rage mods but then again I never go looking.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 10:13:08 No.2583126 >>2581707 At best, I think it'll be decent, but nothing great.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 10:16:55 No.2583130 >>2583104 Wrack was short, boring, and lacked style.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 10:17:07 No.2583131 >>2583109 Sure m8

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 10:26:13 No.2583141

>>2583119
Dead in the bucket.
There have been comments about the SnapMap having more gameplay customizability than what was shown at E3. At a recent interview the devs were asked if Doom 4 could be made in SnapMap. They revealed that gameplay-location-wise it could be and that devs internally use the tool to block out the levels before adding detail.
Add to that additional developer toolset and the game might actually have the right combination to support initial creation of the mod community and longterm dedicated modders.
The devs also said the maps made through the SnapMap will be exchangeable through all platforms and that BethesdaNet will act as a hosting hub.

Key question is if Zenimax/Bethesda wants to monetize this.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 10:29:09 No.2583145 >>2583141 Of course they do, they tried to monetize skyrim mods remember? Paying for lego block levels would be a terrible idea though so this hopefully means you can create entirely new assets.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 10:37:58 No.2583153 >>2583104 Level design is decent, but everything else isn't that great. Bobby Prince's OST for it seems like it could sound great, but the choice of synthesised instruments used by the game does not work.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 10:57:04 No.2583184 >>2583145 Remember that Valve initiated and approved the damn thing. They wanted to roll that shit out to lots of other games.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 11:02:05 No.2583195 >>2582997 What the fuck is with that background? It's difficult to read the text with that fucking background like an imported Arabic rug.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 11:13:58 No.2583210 File: 28 KB, 279x304, K4c69Yp[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2583195 Are you some kind of a casual?

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 11:22:26 No.2583218
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>>2583153
>>2583131
Not even half an hour in and it's already become a meme game.

About Bobby's work. I listened previously to the soundtrack on Youtube and didn't think it was good. But playing the game now in the cartoony style that it is the soundtrack works quite well. I'm pleasantly surprised.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 11:23:30 No.2583219 >>2583210 No, I personally find it difficult to read text on certain kinds of backgrounds, that's all.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 11:25:15 No.2583223 File: 2.90 MB, 540x304, 1437928053496.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2583218 >Diversity is one of our strengths.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 11:28:08 No.2583228 >>2583195 >>2583219 I do have to admit that I dislike that most modern ports neglect to scale the background in the story intermission screens.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 11:32:06 No.2583232 File: 879 KB, 1360x768, Screenshot_Doom_20150802_145214.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I just played return of the triad shit is fun as fuck short, sure, but really neat if you like the rise of the triad

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 11:34:16 No.2583237 File: 604 KB, 1440x1080, 2015-08-03_00001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2582997 >>2583228 pic related from Eternity

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 11:41:08 No.2583245 >>2583237 Where can i download blade of agony mod? Every download link gives me a 404 page, fuck this is frustrating.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 12:48:41 No.2583321 ded

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 12:49:56 No.2583323 >>2583321 you momma's dead. i prefer this calm over quakecon/be3 season any day

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 12:50:42 No.2583325 >>2583323 My mum is quite alive m8

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 12:53:23 No.2583327 >>2583321 have you beaten all of plutonia from pistol starts on UV yet? get practising

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 12:54:36 No.2583328 >>2583327 or even just all of Doom, and Doom2

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 13:03:27 No.2583332 >>2583327 >>2583328 Meh, I just want to run and gun. The only genre I take seriously are shmups for score attacks.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 13:12:57 No.2583345 >>2583327 >>2583328 What has that got to do with the thread being ded?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 13:25:57 No.2583365 >>2583332 just a suggestion to improve, you don't have to get the best time ever >>2583345 just a suggestion for something to do

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 13:33:28 No.2583380 >>2583218 I still think if the soundtrack used a better instrument set with more oomph to it, it would sound a lot better.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 14:16:43 No.2583447 >>2583006 hope customgamer does his thing as in the make chill videos about it thing not the miss every obvious secret thing

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 14:23:13 No.2583453

>>2583141
>The devs also said the maps made through the SnapMap will be exchangeable through all platforms and that BethesdaNet will act as a hosting hub.
The problem is that this means level creation is gimped on PC since the levels need to be able to run on consoles too
Hence the Graphics meter that limits how much shit you can put on the level

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 14:33:47 No.2583470 >>2583453 I guess it's only a reminder of how many items can be placed before the map will be unavailable for console players. I suppose it could be a hard set limit on consoles but not really a limited on PC.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 14:42:23 No.2583483 >>2583470 They've said you won't be able to recreate open levels like the first level shown on the E3 demo on snapmap

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 14:53:46 No.2583498 >>2583218 >and it's already become a meme game. What? How is this a meme?

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 14:54:09 No.2583502
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>>2583483
By open they mean the visual openness, i.e. exterior scenes or in the demo that was shown the lava stream below the level you're at. Basically all that you see in front in the picture is for obvious reasons impossible to make in SnapMap. Primarily because SnapMap is gameplay oriented and those visuals, those surfaces are not part of the gameplay but of eye candy.

There might be a block type with the cieling open to reveal the sky but nothing more to somehow elevate the experience.
I don't think this is an issue with classic doom modding.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 14:55:11 No.2583504 >>2583345 >What has that got to do with the thread being ded? >thread being dead >last post was only an hour ago Where the fuck are you from that this is considered dead?

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 14:59:26 No.2583509

>>2583498
>Diversity is our strength

It's such a common statement in support of multicultarism that it has become a meme. I don't even know if the devs are serious.

Btw dropped Wrack after several tries at the first big Robot encounter in a closed room. Got frustrated over his hardly obvious attack patterns or when the damage is done or not.
Otherwise the enemies are sluggish and predictable. It's not satisfying fighting them.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 15:00:18 No.2583513 >>2583006 Daz's recent mapping streams and his playthrough of RetroJam3DLC really make me want to start Quake mapping. Hope Jackhammer isn't too hard to pick up.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 15:04:19 No.2583518

Can you jump in the original Hexen?
I got a little stuck cause I cant seem to go up the these stairs that seems like I'd just walk up, but apparently the ledge is just a little too high.

I even found a Let's Player jumping up it but I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to jump in Doom engine.

https://youtu.be/XP61_fme7lg?t=638

>>	marrub Sun, Aug 2, 2015 15:05:26 No.2583519 >>2583518 You can jump in Hexen and Strife.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 15:06:27 No.2583523 >>2583519 Oops, forgot to wipe name field.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 15:06:59 No.2583524 >>2583519 Well son of a bitch. I'm surprised I even made it there without jumping then.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 15:16:20 No.2583539 >>2583509 >It's such a common statement in support of multicultarism that it has become a meme. I don't think that's what a meme is.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 15:22:20 No.2583550 >>2583539 >A meme (/ˈmiːm/ meem)[1] is "an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from person to person within a culture It is a meme.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 15:26:25 No.2583561 can we stop having this conversation

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 15:31:01 No.2583569 >>2583550 In that case, would the SYWTPSFD image be a meme?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 15:36:36 No.2583575 >>2583569 it's an infopic, and it literally has nothing to do with anything

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 15:37:01 No.2583576 >>2583569 I'd argue not. By possibly containing memes it doesn't become a meme itself.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 15:40:15 No.2583585

>>2583550

Wouldn't that make Doom and Wolfenstein the original meme games because they started the trend of hunting for keys and shooting dudes in a first person perspective?

and Doom started Deathmatch, which is an idea that's been passed on from generation to generation for YEARS.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 15:41:53 No.2583587 >>2583575 >and it literally has nothing to do with anything No, if we're going by that definition of meme, it's an idea that spreads from person to person. It has plenty to do with it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 15:51:49 No.2583598 just accept that you got angry because they used 'meme' to make reference to a 'social justice' reference that was thrown in without making any sense.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 15:56:29 No.2583608 memes tbh lads

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 15:59:47 No.2583616 >>2583598 >>2583608 And why are you getting angry? Discussing the nature of a meme and what counts as a meme is perfectly fine discussion, the only person being a cunt here are the ones trying to shove it off.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 16:05:12 No.2583628 File: 1.33 MB, 1366x768, asddffgg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I make darkplaces quit defaulting to the multiplayer versions of each map?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 16:05:26 No.2583630 >>2583616 >Discussing the nature of a meme and what counts as a meme is perfectly fine discussion But it's an off-topic discussion and you're prolonging it on purpose

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 16:10:10 No.2583635 >>2583630 You are not a moderator. You do not determine what is off-topic.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 16:13:01 No.2583640
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This amused me.

Anyway still playing Blade of Agony, still loving it. The second mission was a bitch though, I had to cheat myself to some ammo at one point, the minefield was much more frustrating than fun, and I never managed to find the shotgun that I had full shells for. Also I get a bit booty-bothered that enemies firing mp40's at me only drop them occasionally. The mission(s) after that have been much smoother though.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 16:17:03 No.2583648 >>2583635 haha no. topic is determined by the board rules, the thread starter, and consensus amongst thread participants.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 16:20:58 No.2583658

>>2583648
>the thread starter, and consensus amongst thread participants.

Has absolutely no rule over the current line of discussion.
Besides, we're all anonymous, with no way to track who is who. You have no way to verify what the "consensus" is, aside from spontaneous "me" "me" "me" posts which can be easily samefagged.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 16:22:57 No.2583664 I quit mapping my super experimental map a long time ago for several reasons. I kind of feel like continuing it, but I there is so much other stuff I want to do and finish like learning how to program and make decent music.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 16:28:47 No.2583674 >>2583664 Do it in your spare time. Mapping for doom is a pleasure, not work or an obligation.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 16:28:56 No.2583675 File: 140 KB, 719x421, bI4JGQR.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2583648 >the thread starter, haha no.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 16:41:18 No.2583690 >>2583561 >/pol/shitters >/v/irgins >capable of following orders You're hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 16:41:50 No.2583692 >>2583674 Yeah, I think I need to start scheduling myself though since I am balancing so many hobbies in my freetime that take actual effort to become better at.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 16:45:42 No.2583696 >>2583692 > think I need to start scheduling myself That's a really good idea for anyone who has the discipline for it. Or actually, even more so for those who don't. What kind of map are you making anon?

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 16:51:30 No.2583704

>>2583696

A massive black void that takes 3/4 of a massive sector with islands of architecture that you must either teleport to or use bridges to get to or run off the edges of things to get to.

It uses lots of slope based level design and abstract stuff, It's kind of inspired by Super Monkey Ball, just levels dangling in space.

However when you finish up in the black void, a immense sector which takes up 1/4 of the overall map opens up and reveals a insanely large room with a massive cube you can walk inside and fight monsters in, it actually has light and a roof that opens up to the sky.

It's basically going from 1 end of an extreme to another I guess.

I am trying to make monster encounters well placed and meaningful, and architecture relatively basic in order to keep things optimized in such a large map.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 16:54:16 No.2583713 >>2583690 And now what does /pol/ and /v/ have t-- Oh wait, it's you.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 16:55:04 No.2583716 >>2583696 A Doom map, obviously.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 16:58:31 No.2583723 >>2583704 If you're using a lot of 3dfloors in open areas, consider using flying monsters so their pathfinding doesn't get fucked as bad. Anyway it sounds neat, a bit like Xen from half life? >>2583716 you must be great at parties

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 17:01:31 No.2583729 >>2583716 that described in >>2583704 does not sound much like a doom map to me... except The Sky May Be crossed with Nullspace, perhaps.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 17:04:47 No.2583735 >>2583723 >you must be great at parties Not him but thanks you just reminded me I have not been to a party since my student days back in '02, '03.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 17:10:42 No.2583742 >>2583735 You should go to /tg/, you'll join bunches of parties.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 17:20:26 No.2583761 File: 2.78 MB, 320x240, pl03u.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://a.uguu.se/nqfhxc_pl02u742.lmp 4th attempt.

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Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 18:32:45 No.2583867

>>2583723

Kind of like Xen but in a black void.

>>2583729

The "islands" you play within play like their own little contained doom maps with their own little gimmicks.

The cool part about it is you can see what other areas look like from far away.

Like I said, it's experimental. I also have a old-school style Boom compatible Doom 2 map cooking that is just for pure John Romero mapping style inspired gameplay.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 18:36:45 No.2583875 >>2583790 That EoE skybox looks neat, wad?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 18:38:31 No.2583882 >>2583867 >The "islands" you play within play like their own little contained doom maps with their own little gimmicks. Sounds pretty damn fun. Post some screenies!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 18:42:22 No.2583890 >>2583875 Check the filename.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 18:43:17 No.2583892 >>2583890 Oh didn't notice, thanks anyway

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 18:55:16 No.2583919 File: 553 KB, 1366x768, Screenshot_Doom_20150803_004931.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I know it landed up in a Cocoaward, but I feel Hadephobia was under underrated anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 19:01:23 No.2583931 >>2583919 Is it a megawad? What's it like, thematically and gameplay-wise?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 19:08:49 No.2583947 >>2583931 I was mistaken, it was a runner up. Still I think it's a solid Boom megawad. http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Hadephobia

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 19:54:24 No.2584072
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>>2583882

It's nowhere near close to being done. Like 2% done. And I am a very slow worker.

I haven't textured anything yet or put any detail in the geometry because I am still outlining the basic map structure.

My other more vanilla style doom map has had more progress on it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 19:55:22 No.2584075 >>2583628 You know, that's a good question. I had that exact issue when playing Darkplaces, and I had to jump through so many fucking hoops to fix it. And since there's like zero information on this anywhere, it was pretty much all trial and error.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 19:56:20 No.2584080 >>2583628 >>2583628 Delete all of your .cfg files and try again. You likely have some multiplayer config executing. Failing that, go get Quakespasm.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 20:15:54 No.2584120 >one of the people who worked on the 3DO port of Doom discusses it's development cycle https://youtu.be/rBbIil2HPSU

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 20:17:47 No.2584123 >>2584120 THE Burger?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 20:40:58 No.2584162 >>2584120 Damn, I never knew about the plan for new weapons and monsters. I found a source confirming it. http://users.polytech.unice.fr/~buffa/videogames/Doom3DO.html

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 20:53:10 No.2584195 File: 229 KB, 1366x768, Screenshot 2015-08-02 18.50.13.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How the fuck do I fix this?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 20:53:40 No.2584198 >>2584123 Yeah, Burger Bill had a sex change. Whatever makes them happy I suppose.

>>	not the guy you replied to Sun, Aug 2, 2015 21:00:52 No.2584225 >>2584198 Well, given her age, she's more convincing than a lot of other mtf transgenders

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 21:02:31 No.2584227 >>2584120 this is pretty crazy stuff, i cant open any of those files, is there any new art in them?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 21:10:44 No.2584252 >>2584120 >the magazine shots were literally just photoshopped over actual Doom screenshots Holy hell that must have been a lot to take in. Can't imagine being forced to essentially make an entire port in a few months from scratch.

>>	guy you replied to Sun, Aug 2, 2015 21:13:00 No.2584261 >>2584252 Well, according to the video, Rebecca ported over the Jaguar version to save time. But because that particular port had a special sound driver, she had to go back later with her co-workers and make brand new music

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 21:13:05 No.2584262 >>2584120 >here's the pictures! >okay, where's the game? >here! see these pictures? oh my fucking fuck, yikes This pretty much explains everything. I never knew just why the 3DO version was so screwed, yikes.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 21:13:52 No.2584268 Is there some kind of mod to remove the randomized damage? Its really starting to get on my nerves.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 21:16:05 No.2584276 >>2584261 She say it was the CEO and his band that made the music.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 21:18:36 No.2584285 >>2584268 You really hardly notice the damage spread. Go play Heretic if you want true pain related to that.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 21:20:13 No.2584290 >>2584261 Yeah, just getting into that part. I'm just boggled that the company was funded by this dude's church, and he thought you could just copy pictures to make the game. That shit would be legit horrifying if I was her.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 21:21:27 No.2584297 >>2584285 Oh I have, and I hated it. Its a real pain in the ass in berserk mode too, but I'm noticing it enough during normal gameplay for it to get in the way.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 21:23:14 No.2584306 >>2584285 >Heretic E4M1 in smite meister Jesus Christ, how horrifying.

guy you replied to Sun, Aug 2, 2015 21:33:45 No.2584336

>>2584262
Keep going, it gets better
the CEO called up demanding to know where the new weapons are and was recording their conversation so that if Rebecca spoke out of turn or something, he could sue her and her company for not fulfilling their end of the contract

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 21:36:50 No.2584347 Who the fuck thought chaingunner traps made good gameplay, and why hasn't he been killed yet?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 21:39:29 No.2584352 >>2584347 Chaingunner closets and revenant+archvile spam are the cheapest and most annoying kind of traps. Seriously, fuck Chillax in the ear.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 21:43:40 No.2584357 >>2584336 Not him, but holy fuck. I can't believe the fucker was that incompetent.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 21:57:21 No.2584384 >>2584268 That'd make for an interesting mutator

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 21:57:30 No.2584386 >>2584268 Eh, randomized weapon damage isn't really an issue, but holy shit, randomized enemy damage? Such stupid fucking design. You know, looking back, Doom had some really shit design decisions that they really didn't learn from in Doom 2.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:05:24 No.2584397 >>2584347 Chaingunner traps hurt a lot and basically guarantee that the player gets hurt. Mappers use it as a HP tax. >>2584352 Archviles and Revenants are the only enemies dangerous at all times on any skill level.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:11:38 No.2584406

>>2584397

>Mappers use it as a HP tax.

But that doesn't work. Enemy damage is randomized to a stupid degree, so you cannot know how much damage they're going to do, so you can't effectively design around them.
What mappers actually do is throw in a chaingunner trap when they feel like making their maps more difficult without making them challenging.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:17:15 No.2584415

>>2584406
When I said HP Tax I didn't mean that they were looking to take a specific amount of HP.

Only that they are going to be taxing your HP.

Most enemies will not even really hit a seasoned Doom player outside of Revenants and Archviles.
Hitscanners don't generally hurt a lot when you have armor but Chaingunners get lots of changes to take some HP away.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:20:19 No.2584419

>>2584406
i think youre really making a big deal about this, theres usually a reaction delay for chaingunners and shottys, at best youll get 20 hp off you if youre confused about something. You just have to accept straight up traps sometimes, youll know the next time.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:22:18 No.2584425

http://www.pcgamer.com/doom-will-not-get-mod-support-in-addition-to-snapmap/

Okay, so what the fuck is going on?
Is Snapmap actually something more than just mapping? They're talking as if it's a full set of tools, when at first they just said Snapmap would just be for mapping, and previously they said there'd be a development kit, and then they said there'd be no more mod tools, and now they're saying everything's handled with Snapmap?

What the FUCK is going on?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:22:34 No.2584427 >>2584268 >>2584386 >>2584386 >randomized enemy damage? Such stupid fucking design. Dungeons and Dragons, boys. id software played that thing religiously and it ended up inspiring Doom to a good extent.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:24:26 No.2584434

>>2584419

>You just have to accept straight up traps sometimes

No I don't, and I don't know why you think I do.

Also you'll get a fuckload more than 20hp off, depending on if you get lucky or not. Which ties back into that being a shit mechanic.

>>2584427

Yeah, I know, and it shows a really clear lack of understanding about both DnD and Doom. Which is weird, given who made the game.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:25:27 No.2584435 >>2584425 Wait until release, find out then. All tools related to modding seem to go through development hell.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:27:06 No.2584438

Straight up.

If you can't deal with how Doom was designed, and of all things, you complain about randomized enemy damage, then maybe you should consider that Doom is not the game for you.

There's plenty of other videogames to try, and not just first person shooters. Thanks for giving it a try in the first place, though.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:29:40 No.2584445 File: 337 KB, 331x270, 1378188539828.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2584425 Well I'm pretty fucking baffled.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:31:25 No.2584447 Did anybody here upgrade to Win10? If so, do ZDoom, GZDoom and Zandronum all work on it (including DoomSeeker)?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:32:15 No.2584450 File: 19 KB, 479x357, What madness is this.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2584425 WAKE ME UP (WAKE ME UP INSIDE)

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:33:46 No.2584456 >>2584425 Snapmap is your mod tools, fucking deal with it. It's not hard to understand.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:35:05 No.2584459 >>2584406 >without making them challenging. You can't declare something as not challenging just because you don't like it.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:37:12 No.2584461

>>2584425

>misinformation fucking everywhere, one side said X thing when the other one said Y, etc.

you know, this is the kind of stuff they were so worried and scared about, that led them to do that quakecon reveal at closed doors in the first place.

they should sit the fuck down, tweak whatever/whoever the fuck is loose inside the current team, and keep the focus on one single fucking thing, otherwise this is going to be a huge disaster and everyone will lose the spirit and whatever hopes they have on the industry.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:37:49 No.2584463 >>2584438 But I'm enjoying Doom quite a bit, and it seems like an easy and obvious thing to fix, so I assumed someone would have done it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:39:27 No.2584467 >>2584459 Its kind of hard to argue that effectively spawning an enemy behind someone and giving them a free hit is an effective test of skill.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:42:03 No.2584473 >>2584434 >Also you'll get a fuckload more than 20hp off, depending on if you get lucky or not. More like, depending if you're standing still or moving a lot, and how far/close you are to the chaingunnerr. Cover also helps.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:42:16 No.2584474

>>2584425
>is snapmap more than just mapping
They actually did have a game logic editor shown for like 5 seconds at E3, so it is more than mapping.

>>2584415
revenant missiles are probably the dumbest thing
>random 10-80%, random homing
who fucking thought THAT was a good idea

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:42:18 No.2584475

>>2584463

If you tweak the enemy damage to a single, static number, then I can assure you Doom's balance is going to go down the toilet.

If nobody made a 'fix' for over the past 20 years, then maybe such thing wasn't 'broken' by any means in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:43:40 No.2584478 >>2584467 You don't seem to understand what skill is even being tested there...

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:46:53 No.2584485

>>2584475

No one said it was broken, just bad design, and I suspect that statement is hard to argue with. However, as you say, its part of balance, so maps would have to pick one or the other, and logically they'd pick the default. Still, I suspect if you just set damage values to the average, since they're normalized anyway, balance would work out more or less fine.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:54:28 No.2584505

>>2584347
>>2584268
>>2584386
>>2584406
>>2584434
>>2584463
>>2584467
>>2584474

You seem to be visibly upset over how a WAD is managing monster traps (by the looks of things is either Plutonia or a custom WAD), and you're also blaming one of Doom's gameplay mechanics that rarely ever gets questioned for it.

First of all, what you need to do right now is to stop playing Doom for a while and calm down. I gotta say that I'm a bit curious over how you're complaining about such thing when Doom (or Doom 2 for that matter) never actually had such a strong amount of chaingunner traps in the first place, so I'm going to assume you're quickly jumping to the hard stuff right off the bat.

Therefore I must ask, why? You had the entire first episode of Doom (which arguably isn't that hard on Ultraviolence in the first place) to get accustomed to Doom's mechanics; you stand still, you die: that's one of Doom's most well-known laws. Nobody in the community actually puts chaingunners just to damage the player without actually leaving a bit of room for them to maneuver and take cover.

By the way, what difficulty are you currently playing on? Are you indeed playing Plutonia or another WAD?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:56:30 No.2584509 what are some good hi-res huds? Hud files that won't mess with any other texture or sprite mods

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 22:58:08 No.2584514 >>2584505 I'm not all of those people, but I for one am neither particularly upset, nor playing anything other than vanilla Doom 1. I just noticed an easily fixable design fault, and asked if anyone had fixed it.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 23:00:19 No.2584517

>>2584505

I just played through one of the first levels of Doom 2 where they shove you in a darkened hallway with a bunch of chaingunners. If I recall, the number of chaingunners drop off quite a bit after that, so its not the end of the world or anything, just generally poor design.

From what I've played, Plutonia is straight up shit though.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 23:00:45 No.2584520 >>2584505 >>2584474 here, I'm not that guy from those other posts but 10-80% is a really stupid spread don't give a shit about randomized damage in general, monster traps are okay unless you don't have room to maneuver

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 23:17:32 No.2584551 >>2584509 alright fuck. ANY good huds. I can't find shit that doesn't look like the inside of a misshapen helmet or a call of a duty screen

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 23:24:52 No.2584569 >>2584551 i like nc hud

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 23:37:41 No.2584582 Do people who hate chaingunners not move very often ingame or something? I hardly ever have a problem with them, outside of a few hordes in slaughtermaps, but even then, those maps still usually have enough cover.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 23:56:06 No.2584624

>>2584582
It's generally how they're used outside of the stock maps at times. Some maps use them as hitscan turrets that will not stop until you take cover (and can also be unreachable in vanilla gameplay unless you get closer), and other have a tendancy to dump a chaingunner or two at point blank.

Although much worse are archvile and Spider Mastermind "turrets", those are just bullshit. Like the last level of Sunlust has unreachable Archviles that are very far away, but will attack if you get too close to the edges.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 2, 2015 23:56:36 No.2584625 >>2584582 I can't be the only one who absolutely despises shotgunguys. They were fucking insufferable in Doom 3 as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 00:02:37 No.2584638 >>2584625 you spoilered the wrong part

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 00:07:20 No.2584645

>>2584624
>and can also be unreachable in vanilla gameplay unless you get closer

I've hardly played any maps that didn't have some form of cover to use. Some maps just have it less obvious than others.

>>2584625
Shotgunners can be a nuisance in big numbers. But I'm still not that irritated by them.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 00:11:49 No.2584659

>>2584645
I can accept cover, but my main beef with chaingunners is how tough they are health wise. They normally take two shotgun blasts to kill unless you get lucky with a meat shot, which can cause problems if you have multiple ones on you. Their saving grace though is that they're pretty good at instigating infighting and can severly injure monsters even if they come out on top.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 00:13:43 No.2584663 >>2584659 I can agree that a single shotgun shot not always killing it is annoying. But most levels with them tend to have bigger weapons.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 00:15:34 No.2584664 File: 11 KB, 192x192, 1418590637198.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2584582 I can't be the only one who fucking despises shotgun guys they were even worse in Doom 3 >what is reloading

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 00:20:01 No.2584668 >>2584659 jjust use the chaingun on them, it stutters them pretty well where if youre fast enough you can juggle bullets between the two

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 00:21:06 No.2584670 >>2584663 At least they arent like the Lost Souls. Those things are retardedly durable for an enemy that can be spawned over and over again.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 00:21:07 No.2584671 the only Doom monsters I truly hate are Revenants and Pain Elementals, but its a love hate kinda thing, but i fucking hate them so much

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 00:24:01 No.2584672 >>2584671 At least Pain Elementals you can block by getting point blank in their faces. Gotta admit, that PRO DOOM MONSTER STRATS video had some legit useful tips. Still am trying to get the hang of baiting Revenants.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 00:27:05 No.2584676 >>2584672 it does actually, ive taken quite a few tips from it, the pain elementals tip is good but only if youre alone and close, theyre usually wandering the skies with a buddy while youre fending off a separate horde

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 01:12:51 No.2584764

>>2584670
One of the main changes I've always cherished in both Doom 64 and the PSX version of Doom was both having weaker lost souls. You can literally take them out in a single shotgun blast, which is doubly good especially in D64 where they are thrice as aggressive.

Though one of my biggest beefs with it was also the fact that you could no longer block PEs from spamming because they made it so that they deal splash damage everytime a soul gets aborted.

>>2584671
Every Doom monster can become a fucking cunt to fight on certain occassions and on certain wads, actually. Scythe 2 teached me to hate mancubi and revenants almost as much as I hate fucking feminists.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 01:36:45 No.2584830 File: 152 KB, 437x708, aaa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2584671 >but its a love hate kinda thing, but i fucking hate them so much they hate you too faggot <3

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 01:44:16 No.2584851 >>2584672 played some doom earlier. how the fuck do i do this when there's 2 barons and a bunch of imps in front of him?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 01:51:26 No.2584869 >>2584830 alright I admit it, this whole post is adorable

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 01:59:45 No.2584885 >>2581686 Anyone got the WebM of that custom doom level with the portal doors/ doors from prey.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 02:20:36 No.2584914 Has anyone ever made a mod that makes the Monsters behave more closely to their Doom 64 counterparts?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 02:49:42 No.2584950 >>2584195 This is doom life, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 02:53:25 No.2584954 >>2582740 Will the cyber demon be unbroken? by en by by en by.. there's a better home a way in the doom portal in the doom portal.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 03:09:16 No.2584968 I only just noticed this, but the M_DOOM in BTSX E2 is slightly shorter than E1's. I'm guessing it might be because E1's glitches with the satusbar in Chocolate Doom (most likely vanilla, too).

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 03:20:43 No.2584984

random damage is balanced by savegames anywhere. took a hit you didn't like? just quickload!

no but seriously. random damage teaches pessimism. you must assume any incoming shot may take the maximum possible damage, and act accordingly. so instead you learn to dodge, and you find you are fast enough to dodge pretty much anything. you are not a slow-moving tank.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 03:30:37 No.2584992 Honestly, only thing I dislike about random damage, is that its ridiculous with the berserk fist. it can go as high as 200 damage, and can be as low as a mere 20 damage.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 03:36:43 No.2584998 [DELETED]

>>2583713

he wouldn't have latched on that post about wrack if it wasn't for him telling the truth about some games hopping on to the 'diversity' train for a quick buck. it gave him away.

>>2583635
>You are not a moderator.

the irony hurts so much.

>>2584984

i seriously couldn't understand those arguments against tough monster placement. you're playing a hard wad, you should expect tough opposition at minimum.

don't like it? accept that you may not be prepared for the challenge and drop the difficulty a little. any decent wad made post-2009 should have been tested and tweaked on all difficulties.

you don't like the wad at all? stop playing it and play something else instead. we have more than ten thousand custom wads at our reach, more than we may ever play in our lives, there must be something made over the past 20 years that fits your liking.

vanilla saves also stops whatever monster was attacking you.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 03:41:51 No.2585005 >>2584851 >in front of him? Swing your fist, make the PE shoot Lost souls at them to make them in-fight

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 03:44:24 No.2585008 >>2584914 Have you checked Super Doom 64? I apologize for the shitty answer but you might have to open the mod and extract the DECORATE code from the monsters.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 04:53:04 No.2585063

>been mapping for awhile
>start working on stuff for another long while
>go to test the map
>several textures are now HoMs with no apparent reason

There's nothing wrong with them, according to the linedef info, but I have no idea wtf is causing all these textures (which appear perfectly normal in doombuilder) to give HoM effect. There's not a fuckton of textures or sectors being displayed or anything liket that; it's just all sorts of fucked up.

If anyone knows about this, or why it might be happening, any tips would be nice.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 04:58:50 No.2585070 >>2585063 A screenshot might help, bro.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 05:01:44 No.2585073
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>>2585070
I dunno if you can gleen any info from this, but here ya go. Certain textures come through, but it seems like the HoMs are on the BIGBRIK2 and on some linedefs that don't have any textures.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 05:03:47 No.2585079 >>2585073 It looks like your sectors aren't actually properly closed.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 05:07:23 No.2585083 >>2585079 What? All of these textures were fine until I went about making other things, but when I came back to check stuff out they were all broken. I don't know what you mean about sectors not closed properly though.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 05:11:43 No.2585086 File: 416 KB, 1600x900, example.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2585079 >>2585073 For example, this is what it's SUPPOSED to look like.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 05:59:04 No.2585112 >>2585086 Yeah prolly it's broken sectors. Try selecting the Make Sectors tool and click every sector in the area, then launch.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 06:20:01 No.2585124

>>2585112
No, I sorta figured it out. It has to do with the nodebuilder and (possibly) having to do with me switching from z(doom in hexen) to udmf in the middle of making the map; which I think might've changed the nodebuilder, I dunno.

I'm going to try making the whole map into a prefab and then putting it into a fresh wad so it'll all be built the same way. Thanks for the help though.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 06:20:50 No.2585126 >>2585124 >and (possibly) having to do with me switching from z(doom in hexen) to udmf in the middle of making the map YUP THAT'D BREAK THINGS WHY DID YOU DO THAT I know it was probably for a legitimate reason but I want to yell at you for it anyway

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 06:24:26 No.2585129 >>2585126 >WHY DID YOU DO THAT I was trying to take baby steps, but then someone called me a fag and said I should just jump in and learn; so I did. I'm really hoping this prefab copy-paste will work.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 06:57:40 No.2585151 File: 530 KB, 1600x1403, 1432238379190.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2584425 My hype is totally gone now.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 07:14:20 No.2585170 >>2585129 that looked really cool, too. then you decided to tie it to zdoom for no reason... i am saddened

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 07:20:50 No.2585176 >>2585170 Doom in Hexen format isn't even as widely supported as UDMF, the hell are you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 07:23:36 No.2585180 >>2585170 >>2585176 wait. never mind. i didn't see the zdoom in hexen part. sorry.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 07:45:35 No.2585193 Does anyone know how can i to load this Blade of Agony wad? I've been trying everything since yesterday but it only gives me errors.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 08:21:41 No.2585227 [SPOILER]

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>>2584425
>The SnapMap tools are much the same. Give it to anybody and they can do simple stuff, but the complex stuff – all those things that used to be super-complicated – the idea is that there's enough complexity and depth there that you can do all this scripting stuff, and make new gameplay modes. It’s got this really steep high end, but you don’t have to jump right to it like you do with the [previous] Doom tools.

>Still, SnapMap won't be as flexible as previous Doom modding tools or even Minecraft, with the editor seemingly incapable of recreating outdoor environments.

So apparently, SnapMap will be the all-in-one modding/mapping tool but it will be ultra-simplified so console kids can create maps with a pad.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 08:26:02 No.2585232 >>2585193 Do you have the latest development build of gzdoom? Should be able to just drag and drop BoA with it, choosing doom 2 as your iwad.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 08:54:32 No.2585274 >>2585232 Yeah it says could not load realloc. Before it was something about DirectX is missing but i've updated my drivers and still can't get to play it.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 08:56:49 No.2585276

>>2582995
In Black Ops 1
>One of the few CoD game I ever bothered to really play.
I enjoyed the perk in multiplayer that let you run for an infinite number of time.

Figures in the 2nd black ops they changed it to only be a 5 second extension before you stopped in your tracks panting heavily.

Advanced warfare luckily changed it back.

Still though I'm so tired of limited sprint. I love any game that encourages running and gunning, advanced warfare with the right perks lets you run infinitely and shoot whilerunning. Thats all I need.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 08:59:04 No.2585281 >>2585274 Can you play other wads with the same version of gzdoom?

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 08:59:59 No.2585283
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>>2585274
I forget how the file originally came when you downloaded it.

I assume I extracted the folder from the pk3 and just used that. For some reason just dragging the folder over to gzdoom works absolutely fine. So if all else fails and i'm not delusional try that instead.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 09:01:07 No.2585284 >>2585281 Well no, Even i've updated my drivers it still gives an DirectX 3.0 error.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 09:02:42 No.2585285 >>2585283 I've been actually trying that. Also putting pk3 file into ZDL doesn't work too. It is a total mess.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 09:08:10 No.2585292 >>2584998 >boogeymen fucking epic, of course it's okay when you do it

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 09:10:23 No.2585295 >>2585284 Okay do you have an ancient graphics card? Try downloading a pre-2.0 build with the old renderer.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 09:19:37 No.2585305 >>2585295 Aaand... a script error. That's it i'm giving up. Fuck this computer.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 09:24:57 No.2585314

>>2585305
What do you mean script error? Like scripts in-game? Might be BoA requires a recent build and those all use the new renderer which makes them incompatible with your pc, but there could be a driver issues of some sort. You could ask over at the zdoom or drd team forums.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 09:27:24 No.2585315

>>2582913
>>2582938
>>2582951
>>2582964
>>2582981
>>2582985
Well, I've now setup BASSMIDI, set its volume about 3000, and then turned down offending ports to about 50% on volume mixer. Fixes problem. As a side effect, I now have to have the music in non-offending ports in the louder side of the bars, but oh well.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 09:32:21 No.2585319 >>2585314 Nah i mostly get it. This wad needs an 2+ version renderer and 2+ version renderers needs directx 3.0 which i don't have any. Well, guess it's time to buy a new computer. Thanks for trying to help anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 09:57:52 No.2585367 Are the two Memento Mori megawads good? I was looking for WADs designed for coop and I want to know why exactly they're categorized as that.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 09:58:23 No.2585370

>>2585319
To be more precise, what you need is a GPU that supports OpenGL 3 or higher. I wouldn't recommend settling for less than 4, though. While the new renderer will technically run on GL 3 cards, it runs like utter shit and gets framedrops in stock maps, never mind crazy high-detail Tormentor wads. Nvidia is also a better choice than AMD for GZDoom, because Graf doesn't have AMD hardware to test on and so can't optimize the renderer for it. That only compounds on AMD's inferior OpenGL support and generally leads to bad times all around.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 10:02:34 No.2585379 Does anyone have a link to the latest version of that arcade machine mod?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 10:16:36 No.2585397 >>2585367 Map changes triggers and stuff if you play in Coop so they need both of you to solve stuff iirc

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 10:36:44 No.2585423 >>2585315 BASSMIDI sucks ass. Use Timidity, or something along those lines. BASSMIDI has a tendency to stutter on certain parts of a song.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 10:39:21 No.2585427 >>2585367 MM1 has at least half a dozen maps that have coop exclusive sections/functionality. MM2 downplayed that significantly, though coop was still implemented.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 10:42:00 No.2585434 >>2585423 >BASSMIDI has a tendency to stutter on certain parts of a song I've never had this, myself. And I've used it for years. >Use Timidity Except that's worse.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 10:54:49 No.2585453 >>2585379 You don't mean that weird grand theft auto style city thing which has an arcade with Doom Hunt in do you?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 11:35:04 No.2585530 Does anyone else feel like they made the cacodemons too small in the new Doom? They are HUGE in 1 and 2

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 11:35:08 No.2585531

>>2585129

I'm kinda learning that starting backwards from UDMF to Vanilla has been better for me.

In UDMF you can cheat a whole bunch of shit. Texture use, alignment, triggers, scripts, blah blah blah. Vanilla is a lot more unforgiving (especially with flat/ceiling alignment jesus fuck.)

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 11:39:58 No.2585540

>>2582605

I've seen some re-imaginings that are less offensive (pic related) in terms of being so odd, but yeah - Doom's original boxart helmet is just as impractical and wacky as is his gun. Definitely dig the QIIIA version the most. Doom 64 gets a special mention for the more recon look' antenna dangles.

At least it's not Marathon's pilot helmet. Gave him big ol' fly eyes - but I can't be mad because Craig Mullens is hot shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 11:41:06 No.2585541 File: 1.24 MB, 744x1051, a450937d845c81bce05974e43d4aeedceb45f096.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2585540 I guess when you go (pic related) it's really kind of important to upload a fucking picture.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 11:41:58 No.2585543 >>2585453 >>2585379 What? Dude for how long you've been? He's talking about this http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=49057

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 11:43:16 No.2585549 >>2582702 then you are new to yahtzee's content i'm assuming he's a pretty cool guy

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 11:45:30 No.2585556 File: 628 KB, 800x1008, 1436393154131.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2584425 http://www.pcgamer.com/dooms-best-new-feature-hell-demon-pinatas/ Are these people for real?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 11:52:25 No.2585570 >>2585543 >Notes >"This doesn't seem to work with pre-2.x versions of GZDoom, sorry guys" And here. we. go.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 11:54:32 No.2585575 >>2585556 Question: Have we actually seen Doomguy move fast in DOOM 4? I'm talking original, DOOM 1, faster-than-fucking-lightspeed-sanic tier running. Have we seen any footage of that?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 11:58:12 No.2585584 >>2585575 >Have we seen any footage of that? plenty, but it has been taken down every now and then in youtube the player is not Classic Doom fast, but pre-COD fast, sort of like UT2K4 fast

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 11:58:32 No.2585585 >>2585556 >pinatas >not piñatas Christ, it's not even the same pronunciation.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:00:28 No.2585591 >>2585584 >the player is not Classic Doom fast, but pre-COD fast, sort of like UT2K4 fast That's... pretty good. I'll say I'm looking forward to 4. Definitely not maximum hype level yet but I'm excited to have a new game. We'll see how it goes.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:00:48 No.2585592
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>>2585575
The E3 demo was said to be slower than the QuakeCon footage last year. I think they played it slowly on purpose.
The speed is obviously not going to be nearly as fast as the originals, it would probably be a bit silly if it was.
They could do it, but I doubt they would present it well enough to work.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:01:43 No.2585594 >>2585585 American keyboards don't have such thing, anon, cut them some slack.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:03:22 No.2585596 >>2585594 My Spanish keyboard doesn't have certain symbols (even though it has more than an American one) but I can look them up or copypaste them. Besides, you can ~ and n to write an ñ.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:05:27 No.2585602 >>2585596 UK keyboard here and I can €éáúíó but no ~n

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:07:31 No.2585609 >>2585602 Uh, that's weird. My keyboard doesn't even have ~ written in it, but I can just AltGr + 4 to write it. I usually memorize alt codes for some symbols though.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:08:24 No.2585612 >>2585609 AltGr+4 is € on UK keyboards tbh

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:08:53 No.2585613 >>2585556 I like the demon piñatas. There, I said it. >>2585575 Not really. There's some fast movement in the snapmap demo. It's UT/Quake (intended) speed, at most.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:23:01 No.2585642

>>2585531
I actually forgot that I could move flat/ceiling textures because I've conditioned myself to build around the 8px lines, and I'll keep up with where the patterns get cut off.

There's definitely some easier things in UDMF, but the reason I'm using it is for more advanced scripting and such; also silent teleporters.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:31:02 No.2585651 >>2585609 you can just press Alt Gr and the " ¨ " key, then type "n"

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:33:43 No.2585654

Hey /vr/doom I'm completely fucking retarded and as such need some help.
I'm trying to start using 3d floors using doom builder 2, and understand how to make the 3d floors, but I'm wondering how do I get the 3d floor to appear in visual mode? When I go into the game mode, the 3d floor appears just fine but that's incredibly tedious compared to manually editing it in visual mode.
It's probably something really fucking basic that I'm missing, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:35:19 No.2585658 >>2584397 Archies, yes. Revenants no. Just stick to the fucker and use ssg.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:42:15 No.2585665 >>2585654 >I'm trying to start using 3d floors using doom builder 2 You really really should use GZDoom builder for that. And for everything else, even vanilla really. DB2 doesn't support showing 3dfloors in visual mode.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:44:01 No.2585668 >>2584397 >>2585658 Archies take 5 SSG shots to die Revenants only two. (I legit killed one with two shots yesterday)

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:46:44 No.2585671 >>2585668 >Archies take 5 SSG shots to die Can be 4 if you're lucky.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:49:33 No.2585676 >>2585668 >>2585671 It's pretty consistently four, as long as you land full blasts. And that's with ZDoom's more lenient RNG, it'll be even more certain in vanilla since you'll be rolling more 15s.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:49:50 No.2585678 File: 547 KB, 1936x1056, ss (2015-08-03 at 12.48.37).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2585665 Thank you based anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:56:55 No.2585687 >>2581687 http://www.pcgamer.com/doom-will-not-get-mod-support-in-addition-to-snapmap/

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:57:29 No.2585689 Any good WADs that make use of 3D floors? I've only seen them in Putrefier.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:58:15 No.2585693 >>2585687 Why are Bethesda so shit

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:58:50 No.2585694 >>2585687 this got legitimately posted in this thread, and the past one.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:59:31 No.2585696

>>2585668
Monster's danger depends how it reacts to the weapons. If it can be stopped with continous shots(like revenant or caco), then it's an easy prey no matter what damage he inflicts. Archviles mostly waste your time, they're not that deadly unlike real assholes like baron of hell or a chaingunner.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 13:01:13 No.2585698 >>2585687 guess shills at bethesda forgot how doom prospered.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 13:01:41 No.2585701 >>2585687 >giving consoles limited mod support for FO4 >limiting mod support for DOOM 4 Bethesda y u do dis

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 13:01:53 No.2585703 >>2584517 >From what I've played, Plutonia is straight up shit though. >if it's hard, that means it's shit not this shit again

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 13:05:04 No.2585706 >>2585687 I just want to know if they're planning on releasing the game with mod support in the sense that the pak files will be hackable/what-not. Problem is there wouldn't be a decent way to build maps for Doom4 without idtechs editor...

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 13:07:36 No.2585712 Forgive me if this is a really dumb question but is there a way to letterbox in ZDoom? I want to have a decent resolution that's not stretched out or widescreen because of wonky FOV shit.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 13:09:00 No.2585716

>>2585687
This was posted before. Like 4 times.

Anyways.

Relevant information at 48:50
twitch tv/bethesda/v/8544322
"The Snapmap feature looks to me like it's something that could really extend the life of Doom and keep us playing it for years and years but does it include or are there any plans to include the ability to modify textures, character models, weapons, anything like that"?
Marty Stratton:
"The base Snapmap doesn't but I actually want to make this point. Snapmap is our approach to making everybody have the ability to mod "in some fashion" it doesn't in our mind replace our desire to make our tools and technology available like we always have to real programmers. Now I will say, if you've done that, if you've been a modmaker I highly encourage you to try Snapmap too because just the fuctionality in there is really cool. My favorite part about Snapmap is that everybody has all the data so is you've been a modmaker or somebody who makes levels or texture packs to have somebody play your stuff requires you to upload it and to download it and things like Steam Workshop have made that easier but with Snapmap literally everyone has everything and the only data that passes between clients is a little instruction file. The depth of the stuff you can make is going to blow you away. We had a guy in QA that made a piano. So I highly encourage everyone to try Snapmap but fear not, making our stuff available to you is near and dear to our hearts so it certainly isn't a replacement"

So we'll have to wait and see more

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 13:10:38 No.2585719 >>2582021 do not touch the descending skulls. They're not just for spawning monsters, they'll kill you instantly when touched.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 13:14:55 No.2585729

>>2585676
zdoom's rng is actually fairer than doom's fixed table of numbers, it's been shown doom's rng gives slightly higher than 33% average of 15 damage pellets.

what you are probably referring to is the zdoom blockmap and intercepts fixes that prevent on occasion hitscans passing harmlessly through a target whose hitbox unfortunately straddles two or more blockmap squares.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 13:17:34 No.2585736 >>2585719 the flying skull boxes are harmless to the touch and will pass straight through the player. you will die instantly if you are standing on the spawn point when they produce a monster, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 13:19:44 No.2585738 >>2585678 Bonus: You can actually select the 3d floor directly and change it's height/textures etc. It makes using them a thousand times more convenient.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 13:20:16 No.2585739 >>2585719 >>2585736 I thought you transform into a monster instead of dying at there.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 13:22:00 No.2585740

>>2585729
No, that's what I said. ZDoom has balanced out RNG and you can still kill archviles in 4 full SSG shots fairly consistently. In vanilla's skewed pRNG you'll definitely pull it off because you roll 15s...I think 39% of the time? As opposed to much closer to 33% in ZDoom.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 13:22:39 No.2585743 I really really wish the acs HudMessage had a ScaleX and ScaleY value. It'd make things so much fucking easier.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 13:24:34 No.2585748 >>2585739 While that IS a nice headcanon, that's not what happens in game. You just get telefragged by a monster spawn-point. It's like the death teleports some maps have, where you teleport into a voodoo doll of the player and kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 13:30:56 No.2585756 >>2585740 you said "more lenient". this means "less strict". if anything zdoom's rng is more strict.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 15:22:26 No.2585934 File: 234 KB, 900x723, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAok.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2585170 >then you decided to tie it to zdoom for no reason... i am saddened The horror is palpable.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 16:08:46 No.2586029
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>>2567220

>Doom 4's imps look more like the originals', with the spikes and shit. They kinda look like Demonicron's.

Plot twist: IMX got into id software as an intern and that's why he left. And he's also the one behind the imp's new look.

Picture unrelated, but cute.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 16:10:07 No.2586035 File: 202 KB, 627x597, Samsara Roster.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Among all the people on the Samsara roster i'm amazed strife guy isn't one of them.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 16:11:24 No.2586039 >>2586035 It's because strife guy is far too strong for his own good.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 16:13:44 No.2586043 >>2586035 Wait, prisoner never got in right?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 16:14:44 No.2586046 ...never will.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 16:15:50 No.2586047 >>2586035 The reason given is he's too hard to implement and balance + terminus just likes other characters more than him and doesn't have infinite time and motivation for every single character from old fps games.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 16:15:55 No.2586048

>>2585716
>Pete Hines, one of the leading forces of TES and Fallout 3, some of the biggest games that feature modding, is shitting all over a child company in terms of modding
I really don't fucking get it. At least Marty has a fucking clue what Doom 4 needs to succeed. Whether or not Bethesda is a bunch of shitheads or not will remain to be seen. But then again, with how New Vegas was handled, I'm expecting that it's going to be a shitty experience for everyone who isn't Bethesda, including id.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 16:24:24 No.2586074

>>2586048
>" So I highly encourage everyone to try Snapmap but fear not, making our stuff available to you is near and dear to our hearts so it certainly isn't a replacement"
I think it's just a case of miscommunication within the company, I'm fairly certain we'll get an SDK since they've said so.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 16:29:17 No.2586089 Guess who's famous now :^) https://twitter.com/doom_txt/status/628256469222342656

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 16:30:21 No.2586094 >>2586074 I know that people from id have said so, I just hope is doesn't get blocked by Bethesda because they want Fallout 4 to be in the headlines. I still cringe painfully whenever I think about the 85 on metacritic deal they had with Obsidian.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 16:31:20 No.2586098 >>2586039 >>2586047 >Balance Who plays multiplayer anyway? In singleplayer balance don't mean shit, and if you mean the game will be too easy. Who cares? If I want a challenge i'll pick somebody else.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 16:42:52 No.2586119

>>2586098
>Who plays multiplayer anyway?
It was designed from the ground up as a multiplayer mod with balanced DM as well as co-op. There are tons of addons for samsara that add strifeguy as well as tons of other shit, but the quality doesn't approach terms original stuff.

>>2586094
Yeah the metacritic thing was fucking retarded. FN:V was infinitely better than FO3, I'm guessing largely due to based chris avellone.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 16:43:03 No.2586120 >>2586098 >Who plays multiplayer anyway? Not you?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 16:44:17 No.2586121 >>2586098 >Who plays multiplayer anyway? GET A LOAD OF THIS FUCKING GUY

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 16:45:49 No.2586129 >>2586098 >Who plays multiplayer anyway? we can see you, graf

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 16:46:11 No.2586130 File: 301 KB, 624x416, cBrh281.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2586098 >Who plays multiplayer anyway?

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 16:49:14 No.2586137

>>2584672
>>2584676
Yeah, stuff like blocking the Pain Elemental or how you can hug a short wall to take less damage from Arch-Vile hellfire, I didn't really know of those.

And while I did know you could bait the Pinkies to whiff with their chompers, I never quite realized to what extent you could do so and the video showcases such very thoroughly.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 16:49:47 No.2586138 >>2586098 >Who plays multiplayer anyway? RT @doom_txt

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 16:52:46 No.2586152 >>2586089 Pffffft

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 16:57:25 No.2586168 >>2586094 That guy with the suppossed insider info said that apparently they want Doom to be a flagship title and they don't have much confidence on Fallout media wise because of that clusterfuck

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 17:03:44 No.2586179 File: 535 KB, 640x636, 1430035281829.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2586098 >He doesn't play multiplayer LOL Fagget Am I doing it right guys?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 17:36:08 No.2586241 >>2586137 did you know hiding behind collectibles protects you from lost souls?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 17:50:43 No.2586272 >>2586241 If I remember, any custom enemy that uses the lost soul charge code stops dead at any item. I don't think there's a known reason why that happens.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 17:52:28 No.2586279 >>2586029 >I call it bold and Blaz. MORE LIKE BELONGS IN THE TRASH.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 18:19:53 No.2586334 Is there any way to implement the Quake 2 soundtrack into Q2PRO? It's the most faithful sourceport, to the original Quake 2 that I've found.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 18:23:44 No.2586341
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>>2584425
People actually liked the items shooting out from the enemies after you killed them? I thought it looked out of place for Doom, shit like that belongs in stuff like Diablo.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 18:24:11 No.2586343 >>2586334 Just intuition here: Mount a folder with the sountrack files in them as a cd with daemon tools or similar software.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 18:33:45 No.2586360 File: 2.86 MB, 640x480, doom 4 prototype.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2586341 I think it is a really stupid system. It removes the necessity of map knowledge and might result in lazy level design.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 18:35:49 No.2586368 anyone wanst to play some jedi academy? preferably someone who doesn't know how to do poke/wiggle/etc becasue I'll be fucked before I learn to use that effectively

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 18:36:17 No.2586371 >>2586360 >It removes the necessity of map knowledge and might result in lazy level design. Bro who needs that when you got four hella epic execution moves to spam for at least six hours?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 18:37:01 No.2586374 >>2586360 That actually looks like it could work out decently on slaughtermaps, but with less health and armor dropping.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 18:42:03 No.2586382

>>2586360
>>2586374

I think they should have went with a threshold system for the HP and drops from monsters.

Like HP drops from monsters only heal to a certain percentage, and if you want to get back up to full HP, you gotta go find medkits and shit.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 18:45:45 No.2586394

>>2586341
I've got no problem with it as long as it's reasonable. Like they drop less stuff at higher difficulties, or what >>2586382 said.
>>2586360
>It removes the necessity of map knowledge
Eeeeh. You don't need to know the map that well for medkits and stuff in SP.
And there are medkits and ammo packs anyways.
>might result in lazy level design.
I don't really think so. Monsters play a bigger role in that

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 18:52:43 No.2586417

>>2586382
>Like HP drops from monsters only heal to a certain percentage, and if you want to get back up to full HP, you gotta go find medkits and shit.

From what I read and saw at the E3 presentation you get less health/ammo drops if you kill enemies normally and extra if you use the finishing moves.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 18:55:05 No.2586425 >>2586417 Which means they're pressuring players to do executions. I wouldn't be surprised if medkits and ammo pickups are incredibly rare. Moreso on harder difficulties too.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 19:25:29 No.2586496 >>2586089 >>2586138 >>2586098 >I was born January 23, 2001. Yes, I was born before the events of 9/11. But is this about me or Doom 4? Literally underage b&

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 19:25:36 No.2586497 >>2586098 SP should have balance. I shouldnt be able to steamroll past monsters with broken weapons. The original characters all play pretty differently, but still are roughly more or less balanced as Doomguy himself.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 19:28:03 No.2586505 >>2586496 Do you realize that Twitter feeds from the conversations of the Doom community, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 19:30:02 No.2586509 File: 2.05 MB, 640x360, health drop madness.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2586382 >>2586417 At E3 you see the player get nearly all of their health back from two imps.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 19:35:35 No.2586524 >>2586505 I did not.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 19:38:04 No.2586530 >>2586524 >>2586505 It's pretty fucking retarded in its choices at times, but eh.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 20:05:06 No.2586608

>>2586509
he was also godmoded at 10 hp permanently, save for that one time he blew himself with a rocket and left him at a laughable 8 health he later got back from an imp.

Not to mention the demo was most probably showcased on a lower difficulty level, you can see a lot more enemies in the gameplay trailer section of hell at the very beginning where the player walks through the catwalk that leads into the keep.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 20:17:56 No.2586630 >>2586509 >gameshow demo is indicative of final product code

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 20:22:42 No.2586642 File: 786 KB, 1920x1080, Screenshot_Doom_20150803_191945.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So how does this room looks?I feel like is empty, but i would like to hear your opinion

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 20:25:20 No.2586650 >>2586630 It's set to release in roughly 6 months so I'd hope so. They've said at Quakecon polishing is all that's left.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 20:27:48 No.2586659

>>2586642
It's alright, no need to over-detail unless you're consistent about it. I'd remove the blue thingies on the light armatures though, they look a bit cluttered.

The wood/dirt texture on the ledge to the left should be some type of grey, and the "elevator texture" on it's side is a bit weird.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 20:46:33 No.2586685 >>2586642 Put in a carpet, it'll tie the room together.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 21:02:25 No.2586713 File: 749 KB, 1920x1080, boredoomfix.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2586659 Did like told and it looks more comfy. >>2586685 I don't know what type of carpet would look nice.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 21:04:16 No.2586720 >>2586630 >this is the product that they thought would hype us up

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 21:07:53 No.2586729 >>2586720 They don't care if it hypes us up. They show stuff at E3 to hype up the general population. This game has been in development since around 2008, they need all of the money that they can get.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 21:12:10 No.2586741 >>2584425 >No modding past SnapMap DEAD ON ARRIVAL.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 21:26:04 No.2586768

>>2585642
flat alignment is so damn annoying in vanilla
sometimes, I end up just adding a new flat with it shifted so it lines up where I want to be (usually, it's just shifted 32px diagonally, since I'm generally trying to center a pad/light in an area that's 64 wide or something and don't want to move the room, and often I have other lights around)

being able to just align however you want in UDMF is so damn nice

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 21:51:09 No.2586821 File: 39 KB, 480x320, doom rpg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] any good mapsets for doom rpg + roguelike arsenal?

Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 21:52:58 No.2586825

>>2585696
>Archviles
>they're not that deadly

One on one in a room with plenty of cover, sure. But throw in some corpses and/or remove most of the pillars and stuff to hide behind and ayy lmaos are easily the worst. They don't stun reliably either. Barons are for the most part just ammo sinks since they're fairly slow.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 22:14:44 No.2586873 >>2586713 Regular blue carpeting. Consider using the UAC logo variant once or twice for detail.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 22:20:36 No.2586893 >>2586821 Slaughtermaps.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 22:40:44 No.2586939 >>2586873 Tried that but it looks kinda weird.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 23:34:06 No.2587049 >>2586825 This. BTSX E2M24 shows just how evil a mapper can be with arch-viles. Sunlust map29 on UV, too.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 23:52:31 No.2587075 File: 111 KB, 650x650, 1438657811164.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So what have you been playing, Doom general? Anything you would recommend other people try?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 3, 2015 23:55:59 No.2587085 >played through Hellbound and Deus Vult 1&2 >decide to do a full, complete play through of Scythe 2 >its now way too easy >despite good textures, layout, and placement it feels lackluster I need more big, hard WADs. Where dey at?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 00:06:00 No.2587098 >>2587085 >I need something big and hard to play with

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 00:13:04 No.2587114 >>2587098 >>2587085 I got a nice, sticky WAD for you, anon. unf

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 00:14:26 No.2587116 File: 664 KB, 1920x1080, Screenshot_Doom_20150731_205635_01.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] BTSX Episode 2 is pretty good

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 00:15:13 No.2587118 >>2587085 Swift Death Sunlust

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 00:15:34 No.2587119 File: 941 KB, 1920x1080, Screenshot_Doom_20150801_105749.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 00:16:56 No.2587125 File: 431 KB, 1920x1080, Screenshot_Doom_20150715_201506.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] BTSX Episode 1 was also good for that matter

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 00:18:00 No.2587126 File: 806 KB, 1920x1080, Screenshot_Doom_20150718_221140.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 00:19:12 No.2587128 File: 650 KB, 1920x1080, Screenshot_Doom_20150731_205548.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 00:50:16 No.2587182 >>2587116 >>2587119 >>2587125 >>2587126 >>2587128 Yeah, BTSX is awesome. I've always kinda wanted the community to do some sort of "megawad trilogy", so it really is nice having this a reality. Look forward to Episode 3.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 01:43:52 No.2587258 File: 584 KB, 1920x1200, Screenshot_Doom_20150804_014136.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why does this happen? please help btsx 2 + smooth doom

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 01:44:25 No.2587259 File: 6 KB, 194x160, 1436850590689.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2587075 Playing through Doom 2 again since it's been about ten years the last time I played through it all. Currently on one of the city maps.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 01:50:51 No.2587273 >Next major 3DS Homebrew release coming up Doom sourceport when?

Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 01:53:29 No.2587275

>>2587258
BTSX uses a custom palette that glitches with graphics that weren't designed for it. Because of this, BTSX includes palette fixed versions of all the iwad sprites in the wad.

Smooth Doom has default palette sprites, which is why you see these glitches when played with BTSX.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 02:56:22 No.2587410 >>2587273 Probably soon. Is it just me, or is Doom becoming the thing that's used to see if another thing can be hacked into well?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 03:07:36 No.2587439 File: 85 KB, 540x786, smbc_doom.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2587410 "doom can be ported to anything" is practically a meme by now http://itrunsdoom.tumblr.com/

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 03:08:27 No.2587446 >>2587410 >becoming Son, I've got some news for you...

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 03:15:27 No.2587468 >>2586713 that looks great as is. doesn't need any blue in it, IMO. not too sure about the cut-off BRNSMAL* on the left. MIDBARS3 might be better there?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 03:33:45 No.2587496 >>2587439 Someone got Quake to display on an oscilloscope. Not quite a port but super interesting. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aMli33ornEU

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 03:35:06 No.2587501 I want to play Quake but I guess I need something else than just the Darkplaces program? Is it like zdoom where you need actual doom for it?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 03:40:58 No.2587512 >>2587501 yes you need the pak*.pak files too someone will have a link soon enough

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 03:42:56 No.2587515 >>2587512 The thing is, I do have a zip that has the files and glquake, but when I use those files, it keeps giving me some 'bad data' error so I hope someone else has a better solution.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 04:00:04 No.2587551 >>2587515 Wait wait, I figured out what it was, there was a bunch of files in the id1 folder that didn't need to be there and I guess that messed it up somehow.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 04:25:51 No.2587575
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>>2587501
>>2587551
Yeah, all you need are two files called PAK0.pak and PAK1.pak to play. Make a folder named "/id1" wherever your sourceport is. If you have the cd music, install it in there the way Darkplaces likes it.

For the future, this is also how different mods and maps are loaded. To load a mod, put its contents in a new folder (say, retrojam3dlc) the same way you did with your PAK files. Then, launch it like quakeport.exe -game retrojam3dlc. PAK files load in numerical order, so you can add more things and adjust their load order.

You can find loads of maps and stuff on Quaddicted, but like Doomworld they're moving to another host because AtomicGamer's closed shop.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 04:33:26 No.2587589

>>2587575
Thanks. I had tried messing with Quake stuff before but I couldn't get it working right, and told myself I'd try again tomorrow, and then a few months later I actually try to figure it out.
The two mission packs are on emuparadise under abandonware if anyone is interested

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 06:06:03 No.2587759 >>2586098 >Who plays multiplayer anyway? Nigga, you are talking about a mod designed for ZANDRONUM, a -/MULTI-PLAYER/- ORIENTED SOURCEPORT. I know late reply but fuck i am angry i want to slap you to death and then slap your dog.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 06:08:35 No.2587768 >>2587759 tbf zandronum gets fucking samey with the same servers up all the time, or the same wads.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 06:59:22 No.2587835 >>2586509 Yeah it's silly. I hope it's just a lower difficulty level. Also man, that Mancubus didn't even react to the SSG. That sucks, pain chance is a huge part of what makes shooting shit enjoyable

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 06:59:56 No.2587836 >>2587575 >You can find loads of maps and stuff on Quaddicted, but like Doomworld they're moving to another host because AtomicGamer's closed shop. FWIW, it seems like Quaddicted is back up. http://www.quaddicted.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=321

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 07:53:34 No.2587904 >>2587501 Just get Quakespasm. Darkplaces has a lot of issues with custom maps and is mostly not supported by mappers.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 08:20:52 No.2587924 >>2581687 A Doom alpha version between v0.2 and v0.4 has been found http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/73984-doom-v0-3-resurfaces/

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 08:24:25 No.2587928 File: 154 KB, 1024x768, kM5xwR9.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2587924

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 08:28:00 No.2587935 File: 28 KB, 781x482, GhqLIGU.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2587924 >PISTOL → ╭╾

Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 08:51:41 No.2587970
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Has anyone played "Castle Wolfenstein"? It's pretty reminiscent to Berserk for the Atari as far as gameplay. They used actual recorded voices as sound effects, too. It's ear-bleedingly loud and scratchy, but still a feat for the time.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 08:54:44 No.2587975 >>2587928 That minimap on the HUD was a pretty good idea. Is there any mod that does this?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 08:56:28 No.2587979 >>2587928 >sandwich I wonder what kinda sandwiches you'd get on a UAC base

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 08:56:51 No.2587980 >>2587928 >captain's hand >sandwich >heart of lothar Damn, we need a mod where player picks up fuckloads of weird stuff and maybe get rewarded when collecting sets or something.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 09:19:16 No.2587995 >>2587979 possessed ham sandwich, it bites back!

Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 09:48:21 No.2588034
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I just set up a server to play with my friends on using BestEver but its on nightmare difficulty and id like to switch it to ultra violence instead

how do i switch the difficulty? ive looked but i cant really see anything, what would i have to type in using rcon to get it to ultra violence?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 09:50:49 No.2588037 >>2587979 knee deep in the cheese and pickle

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 09:54:10 No.2588042 Any great or major wad released in the past 6 months?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 10:20:08 No.2588082 >>2586893 That's wrong anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 10:51:14 No.2588148 >>2587975 There's the motion tracker from one of the Aliens mods, but that's about it. The closest approximation would be this: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=32810

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 10:57:17 No.2588163 >>2587979 Ham, cheese, mustard and lettuce. That's what I'd do.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 11:00:09 No.2588172 >>2587258 you'll have to convert every sprite in the smooth doom wad to png in order to fix the colors

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 11:01:24 No.2588174 >>2587975 zdaemon

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 11:02:47 No.2588179 >>2588034 rcon skill 3 // skill is 0-based so 3==UV rcon restart // have to restart map to see changes maybe, just guessing here.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 11:05:24 No.2588186 >>2588042 someone finally uploaded kusok http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=18159

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 11:07:35 No.2588192 >>2588186 >http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=18159 what's that?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 11:14:33 No.2588205 >>2588192 A WAD made by a Japanese female Doomer. The author calls it "shitty", though, dunno how it is.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 11:20:25 No.2588218 >>2588205 GOTIS

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 11:29:18 No.2588231 >>2588192 a couple of large techbase maps by kurashiki / 88alice / "you know, the one who draws the cute cacodemon pictures". was pretty popular in /vr/doom when it first surfaced 2 years ago.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 11:45:47 No.2588252 >>2588186 that someone being kurashiki herself

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 11:56:19 No.2588280 >>2588218 >author never makes mention of gender, the only way we know is because of voice >GOTIS heh

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 11:58:30 No.2588285 >>2588280 Wait, is there any video with her speaking? I'm playing her WAD and so far it's pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 12:11:54 No.2588315 File: 86 KB, 640x480, 1438704648.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] haha ffs http://a.uguu.se/mfhrfi_pl06u_fail.lmp

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 12:22:35 No.2588337 >no more doom news at gamescom Well that sucks

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 12:22:45 No.2588338 >>2588285 look on her twitch, i don't care enough to keep links

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 12:29:58 No.2588347 >>2587979 Knee Deep in the Bread The Shores of Dill Inferno Thy Ham Consumed

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 12:31:25 No.2588351 >>2588347 >Rye, Fresh Consumed

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 12:43:33 No.2588386 >>2588034 Enter rcon, input "skill 3;map map01"

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 12:43:50 No.2588387 >>2588347 >>2588351 heh

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 13:11:13 No.2588431 >>2588347 >Inferno Jalapeno*

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 13:18:24 No.2588440 >>2588337 it was rumoured that they were going to announce the beta. shit, I should never trust the internet hype machine.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 13:29:05 No.2588470 >>2588440 How long's it been since they announced the pre-order beta thing? Over a year?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 14:06:19 No.2588541 >>2582131 >it's really powerfull tool >no out doors capability unbelieveable

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 14:11:32 No.2588557 >>2588431 my fucking sides

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 14:31:44 No.2588607 >>2588440 >it was rumoured that they were going to announce the beta. this soon, anon? that's hella ridiculous

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 14:38:01 No.2588623 Is it me, or does Heretic's weapons feel really, really inaccurate?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 14:56:34 No.2588648 Is it me, or do Doom 64 cacodemon shots feel really, really delayed?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 14:59:23 No.2588654 suppose for a moment you want to test/play a map without fear of death. do you use god mode or buddha mode? and why?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 15:05:05 No.2588663 >>2588654 >god mode no, i'd use give all instead. >why i would like to see what weapons fit the map. god mode is for "when death is certain" maps

Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 15:47:30 No.2588740

I'm playing Plutonia for the first time, and it's my first foray into pistol starting as well. A few maps have given me trouble, but I've been able to grind through most with saves after most large fights.

I just got to the first secret map, Cyberdens. I've never seen it played before like I have Go 2 It, so I'm curious if it's worth playing/playing from pistol start. If it's really that much more difficult, I don't want to pistol start or even play it, as I'd rather get through Plutonia proper instead of banging my head against a brick wall.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 15:50:54 No.2588749 >>2582131 So is a proper set of mod tools coming later or not?

Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 16:01:04 No.2588772

>>2588740
Also I just want to comment that Plutonia from pistol start is *really* well balanced. I do feel my saving can be excessive, but I don't feel like I'm save-scumming.

It seems to be about finding a safe place to control the fights from, and that can be really difficult to do.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 16:02:08 No.2588775

>>2588740
cyberdens is not that hard. i can usually beat it, within one or two attempts.

you need to be able to rocket duel 4 cyberdemons, one at a time. there is plenty of room and rockets so circle strafing works fine.

the part right at the beginning with two archviles that teleport behind fake walls can be annoying. there's also a green brick room with some chaingunners that requires some wariness. other than that it's a case of finding the next switch. it's pretty obvious which ones let the next cyberdemon out.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 16:29:51 No.2588845 http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=851942#p851942 its_something.jpg

Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 16:34:05 No.2588856
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Hell to Pay has got some fugly sprites. I'm busy deleting them in slade, holy fuck are they ugly.

Most of it gets overwritten with SmoothDoom but some sounds and sprites still surface.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 16:39:40 No.2588868 Some things just never change.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 16:44:20 No.2588876 >>2588845 I'd say the odds of anything complete coming out of this are about 0.01%.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 16:56:28 No.2588898 http://quakeone.com/forums/quake-mod-releases/finished-works/7337-high-quality-music-packs.html The DoE download is unavailable, anyone else have it?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 18:24:12 No.2589038 File: 42 KB, 1920x1080, Screenshot_Doom_20150805_002238.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Okay I picked up some scuba gear in Blade of agony and this happened, what gives?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 18:30:01 No.2589046 >>2588740 >>2588775 FWIW that anon was right. Cyberden is super easy. Legit died like ~6 times. Far, FAR from the second hardest map in Plutonia. Wouldn't even put it in the top half of the first 15. Now on to Go 2 It.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 18:30:59 No.2589049
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Pretty cool seeing another unearthed Doom alpha.
Something I wish I could ask Romero or Carmack about, but maybe someone here knows:

Did Hi-Color DAC mode ever work? If so, what hardware was needed?

Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 18:49:20 No.2589084
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I made three maps, they should work in Chocolate doom and everything else probably, some of you have played the first map already.

http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=zi62qc

/vr/ needs to do another mapping project sometime btw

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 19:08:58 No.2589117 >>2589084 Fuck I just realized there is a really really easy skip on map 3 that I completely missed.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 21:09:11 No.2589329 >>2589049 it "worked" but it wasn't coded to display right: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/57966-alpha-v0-4-hicolor-mode-screenshots/

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 22:21:30 No.2589436 >>2589084 That was fun, but the boxes in the slime creek in map02 hurt you when you stand on them (although that's not really an issue, I just found it to be weird.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 22:40:53 No.2589469 File: 302 KB, 290x705, 0c7.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw no Hdoom updates >tfw not even new art

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 22:40:54 No.2589470 File: 2.22 MB, 3648x2736, DSCN1408.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHI_i3ncJH4

Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 22:44:39 No.2589479
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Poking around the Doom 0.3 alpha a bit.
Apparently instead of Watcom C, it was built with Intel's "Code Builder," which had its own DPMI extender and FPU emulator built in.

Nothing terribly out of the ordinary just yet, but something caught my eye, a string:

"SPINNING PLANET / STORY.CREDITS"

I believe this was mentioned in the Doom Bible, as Tom Hall wanted cutscenes like that. Makes you think what could have been....

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 22:45:57 No.2589481 >>2589469 >tfw futa update never cause the modders a real jerk cunt

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 22:51:16 No.2589490 File: 33 KB, 100x116, lotyar.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >You are now aware that no game will ever have software rendering again >None of that sweet dark shading >That gritty look will never be achieved again

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 22:54:16 No.2589496 >>2589481 The mod is open to add whatever fag features you want when it's finished.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 22:55:01 No.2589501 >>2589496 >when it's finished. So, never :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 22:57:18 No.2589506 >>2589496 nah hdoom guy needs to do it himself, he's got scores of people begging for it offering to donate for it but he won't do it because "he doesn't like it" futa is pretty inoffensive, guy's just a prick

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 22:59:38 No.2589509 >>2589501 Yo, that's not fair.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 23:02:03 No.2589514 >>2589506 Obviously you aren't throwing enough money at him, if you gofundme his patreon through crowdfunding and dad's bank account, around the tune of a few hundred thousand dollars or so then I'm sure he would be more receptive.

>>	not the guy you replied to Tue, Aug 4, 2015 23:04:55 No.2589520 >>2589514 Dude, I'd totally work on a mod if someone threw money at me. I think you're on to something. It'd be cool to have another /vr/ project though. There's been a rise in mappers recently.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 23:09:00 No.2589525 >>2589506 that's a very strange attitude to take towards someone's personal passion project "he won't do what people tell him to do, what a faggot"

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 23:17:06 No.2589535 >>2589501 rekt

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 23:17:50 No.2589537 File: 2.02 MB, 3648x2736, DSCN1410.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2589470

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 23:24:17 No.2589550 >>2589470 >>2589537 forgiveness, maybe nobody cares. Just so you know what to do with your old hardware before you throw it away or burn. This is a small project I'm experiencing and would like to share with you guys.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 23:25:23 No.2589553 >>2589550 Keep up the good work; when you're finished try uploading it to imgur and see if it becomes viral

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 23:28:31 No.2589560 >>2589550 Gonna make a pull-out drawer for that keyboard and mouse? Though I dunno about it being a 'small project' though, unless you've been working at an arcade for a few years.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 23:41:24 No.2589580 >>2589481 >>2589506 i, too, get incredibly angry for modders not appealing to my fetishes

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 23:44:18 No.2589585 >>2587768 Maybe if someone made better mods for zandronum, oh wait. No one does, its all Complex Dumb or MM8BDM classes mods or Dead GvH addons.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 23:46:56 No.2589592

>>2589506
>nah hdoom guy needs to do it himself, he's got scores of people begging for it offering to donate for it but he won't do it because "he doesn't like it"
I don't really see anything wrong with this. If he doesn't like it, he's under no obligation to do it.
I don't care much for HDoom but whining about how your fetish isn't is pure faggotry.

>>2589585
There's plenty of good Zandronum mods, the problem is that nobody's hosting the good ones.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 23:49:39 No.2589597 I am never going to understand futafags. In /d/ they act like you are a fucked up shitstain if you dislike futa

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 23:51:49 No.2589602 >>2589481 I'd be happy with new art but it looks like the artists got bored of it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 23:54:59 No.2589609 File: 134 KB, 846x1128, 1438746899909.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2589469 Mike should have done Hexxen instead. That way we would have delicious centaur pussy

Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 23:55:31 No.2589610 [DELETED]

>>2589597
Because they are closet gays, if you insult their sexuality they will come and say that they are not gay just because they like dicks.
Seriously, they will come with tons of excuses in order to prove they are not gay and in all of them, the general and biggest excuse is "I only like dicks, not men.". GAY AS FUCK.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 4, 2015 23:57:52 No.2589616 File: 118 KB, 396x615, 1391145749419-2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] To be honest, all I wanted to do was hold hands with her. I would've been a lot more interested in an actual dating sim rather than Press X to Little Death.

Anonymous Wed, Aug 5, 2015 00:00:56 No.2589627 [DELETED]

>>2589610
Because they are SgtMark supporters, if you insult their mod they will come and say that they are not retarded just because they like reloading.
Seriously, they will come with tons of excuses in order to prove they are not retarded and in all of them, the general and biggest excuse is "Doom is about gore and cinematic kills.". RETARDED AS FUCK.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 5, 2015 01:11:59 No.2589752 NEW THREAD >>2589748 >>2589748 >>2589748

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 5, 2015 07:49:43 No.2590175 >>2589506 >muh futa ;_; Make your own mod later if you want your gay shit.

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