/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[04-08] Romero Clarifies Brutal Doom Stance
https://twitter.com/romero/status/695255530458193921

[04-08] GZDoom Hardware Survey Concludes: Legacy Software Renderer To Get The Axe
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=60152
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=60156

[04-08] Anon map release: Computer Complex
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/4699308
https://mega.nz/#!p41AxabI!3ORwvE3OE0j8wPr_I3uXdHnfoj6Z78zBLteHZqsc5oc

[04-07] Durandal in QCDE
https://youtu.be/c9qvnQY2ivk

[04-07] E1M1 recreated in TF2
https://youtu.be/dzJVg28rJe0

[04-07] Chocolate Doom ported to PSVita
http://wololo.net/talk/viewtopic.php?t=48973

[04-06] The Adventures of Square E2 released
http://adventuresofsquare.com/downloads.php

[04-05] System Shock source code released
https://github.com/NightDiveStudios/shockmac

[04-05] Selfie Doom updated to take actual screenshots when taking a photo.
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1864656

[04-05] Main UAC Hangar Demo 2 Released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98885-main-uac-hangar-demo-2-released/

[04-05] Anon mod release: a backup of what became Hexen Souls, dated Sept. 2016
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1NpCUasUt5BJo7aA19M70ESmt7nDdDPB1

[04-03] GMOTA updated to v1.2
https://combine-kegan.itch.io/gmota

[04-02] Quakedroid - Quake for Android Released
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61558

[04-02] 23 free to use MIDI and audio tracks released:
https://dialupformurder.bandcamp.com/album/midi-dreams

[04-02] Anon mod release: some kusowad with Alex Jones yelling
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=73332683564543889041

[04-02] New map for Quenching Urges of Constant Killing (Quake slaughtermaps)
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61559

[04-02] Vanilla Essence: makes it easy to enable "Vanilla Mode" in GZDoom
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=59412

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HUUH

Playing the awesome 2016 reboot reminded me that I haven't played Doom in 15 years.

Should I replay the Playstation version or the port on Xbox live?

>>4701071
>[04-08] Romero Clarifies Brutal Doom Stance
That's from 2016 though.

Are there any other vanilla / chocolate purists / autists on this board?

>>4701083
Guess i got trolled.

>>4701082
PS if you can dig the creepy atmosphere and less cartoony vibe

>>4701000
Is that what he actually looks like?


bullshit about him aside, he actually looks kinda cool

>>4701098
he looks like he'd do a good doom guy cosplay

>>4701082
It's worth to try out both.

>>4701092
>posts a tweet from 2016

i wonder what the impetus was behing that huh

>>4701092
you didn't get trolled, you're just inattentive.

>when you remember Id and Raven Software will never team up again because one was bought by Bethesda and the other by Activision

>>4701089
not really, most of us, even those who think of themselves as traditionalists, have been spoiled by at least resolution increases and mapping limit removal. a true purist is a rare sight.

>>4701089
I only play the Id Anthology version with DOSBox.
Doom95 is a piece of shit and should never exist.

>>4701109
Basically I'm a stupid moron and made a mistake. Maybe I need a break from threadposting duty
>>4701113
Thank you for trying to allow me to save face

>>4701094
>>4701106
Yeah, Playstation version was actually the last time I played it. Went through the whole thing on my PS2. Its amazing what a change of music can do.

And while I'm generally a mouse and keyboard only type of guy for shooters, Doom functions perfectly with a gamepad.

Momento Mori. Good or bad?

>>4701079
UNF?

>>4701134
its ok

>>4701134
i personally love it but i acknowledge that it is old and probably not to the tastes of the modern generation of doomers, e.g. there are a number of maps that are elongated and confusing switch hunts that require patience, but it is a mix, there are also a few levels that would appeal to plutonia fans in there too. also the modern audience tends to find it insufficiently visually impressive too, its around the same prettiness level as some of doom2 or tnt.

>>4701115
>Heretic and Hexen will never get another sequel

This is the darkest timeline.

what's the difference between d4d and d4t?

>>4701171
After Heretic 2 and Hexen 2 maybe it's for the best.

>>4701172
features vs streamlining, gzdoom versus zandronum, ponies vs MEIN VISION

>>4701172
D4D is single player only, complex
D4T is zandro-compatable, streamlined

>>4701074
OH FUCK MY RETIREMENT TILES

>>4701079
HUUH

>Watch LGR
>Decide to try Duke Nukem 3D for MS-DOS on an old PC
>Try to get projector to play movie on first map
>Fire alarm in projector room says "kill me"
>No other fire alarm seems to do this
>There's a lot of lewd imagery
>Duke is Chad
This feels strange and I imagine it was controversial at the time.

>>4701196
UNF

>>4701089
If a map can be run with chocolate doom, it does
If a map uses boom, it goes to Prboom+
If none of the above, Zdoom

>>4701197
>fire alarm in projector room says "kill me"
There's a woman trapped in alien goo who's been impregnated a la Alien. You may have accidently interacted with her through a wall or something.

Should I buy System shock 1?
Now that the source code was released, there might be a modding community for it.
If yes, should I buy it now or when it's in sale?

>>4701132
The Playstation did have a mouse accessory, intended for games like Simcity 2000, but also being fully compatible with a number of first person shooters, like Doom and Final Doom

Personally, I don't like the new music, but otherwise PSX Doom has a lot of cool things going.

>>4701234
I'm only on the 3rd map, but it wasn't until I got to the stripper scene that I realized the adult filter was on.

>>4701196

>>4701197
It sold itself on controversy a bit, but it's also a really fun game by all it's merits.

>>4701248
UNF~~~

>>4701241
That's weird. I thought it was turned off by default.

>Watch LGR
Stopped reading there

lol just kidding i love LGR

>>4701273
He's kind of nice sometimes.

>sector waterfall
>there's no secret behind it

>>4701256
>a really fun game by all it's merits.
That's until you reach the lunar levels and get bombarded by sentry drones at every damn door. Seriously, fuck Warp Factor.

>>4701298
wouldn't be much of a secret if they all did that

What's better: the Gatling Rotator or Mobile Turret?
Gatling Rotator has slower mouse sens while firing while the Mobile has slower movement speed while firing.

>>4701310
I don't think it's that bad, it's not like the drones can sneak, you hear them all the way.

>>4701241
Oh yeah. I forgot the adult filter just made shit invisible.

P gay. They should've just edited some sprites.

>>4701317
Fully upgrade gatling for that sweet sweet damage boost. but I didn't give two shits about any other weapon other than the fully upgraded scoped HAR in my nightmare playthrough

>>4701173
What's wrong with them?
Personally I enjoyed them a lot, the world of Heretic 2 was pretty mysterious. It's a shame you don't get to visit most of the parts the world map mentions.

Just about finished a map, should I upload it here?

>>4701343
Can't hurt.

>>4701338
The atrocious, barebones, amateurish third person heretic 2 that plays nothing like the previous game, it's like they took something completely different and slapped the name on it.

and Hexen 2 is just 1 but with somehow more annoying level design and less satisfying classes.

>>4701346
Until someone here rips it to shreds like it happens often.

>>4701347
>Wanted a Heretic game like Heretic 1
>Thinks Hexen 1's shitty switch hunts are better than Hexen 2

really nigga

>>4701350
Guess I'm the only one who will ever play it then

>>4701134
Classic.

>>4701337
>scoped
Maybe COD is more your game.

>alfonzone map14 w/ final doomer and colorful hell
>starting area has chaingunners, mancubi, and imps sniping from afar
>have 23% health, green armor, and not a lot of ammo, with starting area being almost devoid of it all
>White imp creeping somewhere in the gaps, black HK somewhere in the next room
>plasmarifle secret gives max ammo for HMG, but it's nowhere near enough for the white imp
What do I do, doombros?

>>4701381
Persevere.

>>4701364
Nobody's gonna do that unless your map is completely unplayable. You should post it so people can tell you what you did right and what you did wrong so you can improve.

>>4700854
>>4700959

ok, I'm trying to do dm-1on1-idoma by memory

>>4701375
Don't be like that.

>>4701381
FIGHT, FOR THE FRONT, AND FREEDOM, MOVE OUT!

>>4701397
This, unless you're Sarais tier people aren't gonna hate it.

>>4701397
>>4701415
It probably will be, it's my first level
It took me five days to make
Try to overlook the poor texture alignment I guess
https://nofile.io/f/Sy9wXHX5j1g/MAP01.wad

>>4701337
the only truly bad gun mod is the triple burst shotgun.

>>4701310
just like the lost souls, they would be better if they weren't so tough

>>4701298
playing Adventures of Square episode 2?

>>4701415
>>4701387
But how?
>stay and fight
>get gangraped as soon as the white imp and his army of fuckboys find me
>fucking book it
>depending on where I go, I either have a green arachnotron or a black hellknight waiting for me

>>4701416
-the level design is pretty small and barebones, but that's fair for a first level
-fighting a single baron of hell with a single-barrel is extremely boring and unfun
-the sector furniture is creative but pretty silly
-it feels a little weird seeing fancy sloped compstations when the rest of the level is almost entirely vanilla
-the caco trap was good as a trap but it looked weird/ugly phasing through the ceiling, couldve made that differently

>>4701416
Not bad, played it with a mod, that archvile really gave me the dick but in vanilla I'd have probably handled him easily. There's one issue, it's hard to get into the flesh tunnel secret due to ceiling height, maybe raise it a tiny bit. Decent use of the baron to make the player run down stairs, but you should probably put a larger ambush and maybe a rocket launcher behind it to take the baron out quickly.

>>4701461
You're not supposed to fight it

>>4701416
archvile fights with low tier weapons are still easy if you give the player a pillar + ammo, try adding a few monsters for him to rez. Hate the caco trap, it's unavoidable damage for no real reason than to annoy the player. The Baron has no real presence in wide open spaces and can be ran past easily

>>4701473
Designing a level for less than 100% kills is bad design.

>>4701473
>You're not supposed to fight it

i can't stop playing hideous destructor, does someone have a map that works well with it

>>4701482
The two maps linked in the HD thread
Hideous Distraction, a set of three maps released by an anon here

>>4701416
Played it on HMP, my thoughts are:

The arch-vile trap is a nasty surprise right of the bat, I grabbed that Berserk secret so I could make it, but it was really intense. Assuming I hadn't figured that secret, I would be up for a real unfun fight. The secret to the shower room was interesting, I really needed that armor.

The cacodemon above the door is pretty clever, I haven't seen that done before (though I've read something like it), that REALLY caught me off guard and made me back off in panic. Some may argue it's an unfair trap but you hear him immediately as you start shooting the zombies, and he drops right down into your face, you have plenty of time to move. Great way to surprise the player IMO.
The fleshy secret leading to the courtyard was pretty interesting, it made the fleshy corner less of a random detail and actually made it a feature point.

The Baron coming out of the closet to try to scratch me in the ass is a good surprise, but it's also not a great use of a baron, as you only get a shotgun and chaingun, he could be berserk punched but that's too dangerous of a strategy IMO, they just violate you in melee. Whittling down a baron with just the shotgun is not fun for me, many would agree. Arguably you could make the case to just run down the stairs without fighting him, but he might follow, and then you have a real dangerous monster waiting for you up there still.
I would have put a pinkie or spectre in there, something you might realistically fight with berserk or just the shotgun. It's the second time a tiny closet is sprung to let loose a real mean monster though, I'd advise against getting too reliant on that. Ambushing the player can be fun, but it shouldn't be too predictable in it's setup.

By now, I was REALLY wired and expecting the next trap, the shotgunners were a piece of cake, and the dark storage room had me nervous, but it just had a few imps, and more shotgun shells than I could carry.

Cont...

>>4701482
Hell revealed 2

>>4701482
nuts.wad

>>4701482
scythe and hamoto battles the yomi demons as suggested in the zdoom post

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/megawads/rebirth nearly complete with this one, very fun.

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/eviltecc just started, seems fine so far

Mess around with Oblige settings, Matt apparently plays it rougelike style and deletes the map every time he dies

>>4701482
https://www.youtube.com/user/Slyd1r/videos

this guy plays through a ton of shit including hell revealed 2

>>4701490
I'd say that I like the mean streak of surprising the player, but it could be done better for the third time. I'll give the archie surprise a pass because I had no such expectations, and I really liked the caco above the doorframe, very good, really scares the player while giving a chance to retreat easily, so it's not like an automatic injury.'

There's decent detailing overall, yet texture choice is a bit plain for a lot of it. I'd put in some added details, maybe a some sector furniture, a central mainframe or something, a carpet in the main room, etc. Maybe also some indents/holes in some walls for some computer screens, wiring or pipes.
Though the .midi wasn't my taste, I appreciate that you put it in, because I loathe D_RUNNIN, I would also have swapped the sky texture out, helps it feel less like Master Levels. Minor detail for spergs like me.

It's a very short map, but it has some interesting points going for it. Nothing mindblowing, but you've got some ideas I like. Short maps like these I feel work best in a set, meaning I'd suggest either making a longer map next time, or to add on a couple of more maps for a quick adventure.

>>4701490
I didn't find the berserk and found it pretty easy fighting the archvile. It's just him, and there's multiple pillars.

>>4701473
I see your point, but I think it would be better if you weren't supposed to fight it when first meeting it, but then you find a plasma rifle and some bulk cells in the storeroom, which lets you defeat the baron.

>>4701482
Valiant works if you're a big boy.

>>4701510
I guess it's because that fucker scares me and I found myself cornered into using the berserk fist because it was the most powerful thing I had on me.

Also I like the idea of violently brawling a super dangerous demon in a locker room and winning, because you're high/roided out.

>>4701517
h

how

Square is getting a bit weird. (also 2 secret maps in the one episode? wow)

>>4701476
>>4701479
It's there to keep you from running back up the stairs when you get the keycard, I made it a Baron so you could kill it but it would be easier to run away
>>4701490
I put the berserk pack in before I took out most of the low tier enemies
I couldn't think of a better way to keep the player from going back up the stairs outside of closing a door them behind for no reason

Halfway through making the level I realized all the things wrong with it mentioned here, but fixing those things at that point would mean recreating half the level

>>4701507
Big thank you for your criticism
>>4701515
I was trying to hold back on giving out high tier weapons because I was thinking about making a second underground map

>>4701526
If you try hard enough and have enough berzerk packs you can do anything

>>4701526
A lot of trial and error to find the working strategy and execute it right. Getting that successful Map07 run took me an hour and a half, and Map06 took two and a half hours before that.

>>4701510
I turned down the health on the archvile a little so it wasn't such a pain

>>4701530
>>4701535
I meant more how in HD, archies are noclipping ghost bastards, and the level starts with a bunch of caged ones just ready to phase out and get you

>>4701528
>but fixing those things at that point would mean recreating half the level
That's alright, you'll create a new level, this was an exercise in getting familiar with the software.

>>4701539
Archviles won't noclip until they take damage. They stay in the cages as normal until the mancubus dies. Keeping the mancubus alive and not getting destroyed by it are the real challenges.

>>4701541
Yeah, I really should have planned it out first
at least the replies gave me a funny idea for the next level I doubt i'll be able to finish another level though

Has any wad even come close to the atmosphere of Unloved?

>>4701558
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXDv4l_3JDs

>>4701539
>>4701542
https://www.twitch tv/videos/248209812?t=02h22m55s
Here's my full run of the map. It would actually have been easier if you could get the archviles to noclip out and then kill them one at a time before starting the map proper, but however those cages were made, I couldn't shoot through them even with the Liberator. I tried so many ways to get around the gimmick of the map, but it was just not having it.

What did Jimmy mean by this?

>>4701552
Oh it doesn't have to be now. I think you could probably make a pretty decent single-theme minisode (3-4 maps) or something some day.

I encourage you to try more.

>>4701578
do you actually not get the joke, or

>Term's Booster-suit thing isn't for Cosmic Tides
What the hell? I thought that was going to be part of the game he was making? Is Cosmic Tides dead?

>>4701578
a cheesy joke

>>4701375
HAR is the spiritual successor of the classic chaingun, it's just natural to give some emphasis to it's sniping abilities.

>>4701582
I didn't know what brie was until now

>>4701590
well in case you're ESL or something, it's also a play on "debris"

>>4701589
There's something strangely satisfying about firing this gun, be it D4D/T or D4 itself. I can't put my finger on why, maybe it's just the design?

>>4701596
Ohhh, I was pronouncing it wrong, thanks!

>>4701173
I understand why you wouldn't like Heretic 2, but what's wrong with Hexen 2?

>>4701605
>>4701347

What is the best way to learn to make good gameplay wads and mods? I would like to do maps too, but I feel like the stakes to make a decent couple of levels are too high.

>>4701623

Playing through Doom II for the first time in a few years, and for some reason, it’s just now resonating with me how many stages have massive areas that are completely unnecessary to explore.

Tricks n Traps, The Chasm, Gotcha, the Pit, Nirvana, Monster Condo, Downtown, Industrial Zone. . . They’re all pretty short stages if you just hone in on the keys and the exit, even though they’re big maps.

There’s not really anything like that in the first game. What’s up with that design choice?

>>4701623
Simple:
>Know what kind of experience you want to create
>Have a concrete end point (feature completeness goal)
>Play/Dev it until it's fun. Don't compromise, if it's not fun for you, it's probably not fun for anyone
>Make the mod for yourself, not others
Mapping is arguably easier to do outright since you can change direction mid-way through and not suffer as much. To make a good gameplay mod you should have a very good plan. Sure, there are some mods that weren't made like that, but very few turned out well. As for getting resources, there's plenty of mostly freely available crap out there. If the creator is a dickhead though (one of those "U HAV 2 ASK FOR PERMISHUN" people) you should steer clear if the mod is for public release. It's not worth getting into it with forumites on the spectrum over the legality and ethics over their claims to random resources for a 24 year old game.

>>4701641
Doom 2 gets so much hate and posts describing how abysmal it is it might just be one of the worst FPS ever.

>>4701623
Massmouth, is that you? You grew a second eye!

>>4701598
The Heavy Assault Rifle feels so fun for a weaker weapon due to it's accuracy and having a better sense of impact, punch, and looks really nice intimidating appearance wise as most low tier automatic weapons go in retro FPS games.
That, and micro missiles. You can never go wrong with micro missiles.
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>>4701651
what the fuck my dude

>>4701641
Sandy Peterson.
I wonder what kind of maps he would make today with the new editors that are out and some actual prep time, kinda like what Romero did with his E1M8 replacement.

>>4701642
I will try to keep all of that in mind, Thank you for the advice. This other map was actually made before this, but you can see I am kind of experimenting of a "Space Hulk" kind of situation. General story is that the player, (or a squad of marines) are teleported to a drifting military freighter.
I think this will probably just fall into obscurity as did my TF2/Gang Garrison mod ideas (which I don't hald any real interest of doing), but I just really want to make something for this community, and I need to learn it doesn't have to be great.

>>4701663
Don't make something out of a sense of obligation or wanting to give people something. Make something you want. If you try to force yourself to create, especially create something like a map or a mod, it'll inevitably be mediocre crap. Just like any art, modding requires passion. Without it you're just doing a job.

What are some weapon packs that don't get enough love?

>>4701648
No. Come on.

>>4701658
What was the original e1m8.

Also, I did notice a bunch of those levels were Sandy Peterson.

>>4701598
It'd be even better if the crosshairs in Doom 4 didn't fucking scale with the FOV so the HAR's didn't become invisible at high FOV's. Honestly it's one of the few flaws Doom 4 has.

also 140-150 FOV users represent

>>4701694
>140fov
Do you think you're an ex-Quake pro? Because you're not.

The Legacy of Heroes (legher.wad) map 5 doesn't play well with GZDoom built from commit 80f57dfaf0716c48e85984690657396255e44a40. Rendering will stop for few seconds after opening the door at the start. Zandorum/PrBoom+ with OpenGL enabled shows no issues here.

>>4701641
All those save Industrial Zone and Gotcha are Sandy levels
really makes ya think

>>4701682
The original e1m8 is the original e1m8, but Romero released a modern version a few years back, which is a more fleshed out level than the quick original.

Anyone here ever given thought to what it would be like to play Doom as a bigass dog? Running around real fast, clawing at shit and ripping out demon throats with your teeth, being able to detect enemies with your canine senses?

>>4701273
I can't imagine possibly ever hating on LGR, it's just inconceivable.

>>4701702
Nah I just like playing at high FOV's cus, while I know it doesn't *really* make me go faster, it sure feels like it, and it's fun as fuck. That being said, every time I get a new FPS game I try to bhop to see if I can go fast because it too is fun.

Reminder to aim for Advanced!

>>4701790
I don't want to design multiplayer levels. I want to design single player levels.

>>4701794
You can apply this to single player levels as well.

>>4701790
also that "feel a lot like a 'video game level'" remark kinda makes me find the person who made this and punch them in the stomach.
I'm so tired of these designers and journalists thinking video games that are like video games is a detriment of some kind.

>>4701798
To a point I suppose, most MP levels have a noticeably different flow to a single player level, but I get the idea here, to make a good, efficient level with some neat variety in the layout

>>4701812
I interpreted it more as a "feels too cliched".

>>4701790
lemme guess, you posted this on /v/ first and hoped it would outrage people, right?

>>4701816
No, I saw it posted here before. No one got outraged, and no one made snide remarks like you.

>>4701814
You might be right, maybe I'm just too cynical after seeing so many articles and crap of people spouting nonsense about video games.
Though that "pure gameplay" remark in quotation marks is another eyebrow raiser.

if I could mod the doom 4/D4T chaingun I'd make the rotator and the tactical scope both built-in features. the only difference would be that the scope would become this hugeass sniper sight a la laserkraftwerk that has the same capabilities as the one for the HAR, both upgradeable. for mods I would repurpose the micro rockets (6 rockets=6 barrels fired) and keep the mobile turret as is.

essentially mount everything from the HAR to the chaingun to make it a more versatile and viable gun in your roster. would I be creeping it in too much or is it a good idea?

>>4701823
I don't know what is meant by that either. This was just intended as a rough summary for a test video game studies supposedly present to potential employees.

>>4701724
There was a mod made a long time ago called Dog Doom.

Imps are just boneless hell knights/barons

refute this.

>>4701841
???
They have bone spikes protruding out of their bodies.

>>4701794
I've designed mostly mutliplayer levels until 2014, and it shows in the my single player levels.

It's kinda weird, but it does teach you flow pretty well. It might affect your levels memorability though...

>>4701790
BEGINNERMEDIATE
COMPLICATED, YET BOXY
NO ATTEMPT TO BREAK LINES OF SIGHT BECAUSE THERE ARE NO LINES OF SIGHT
THERE ARE ALSO NO WALLS
OR OTHER UNIMPORTANT PARTS OF A LEVEL

>>4701858
Good job!

all the burl tumd links I find are broken? anyone got it?

>>4701867
thanx man
i'm doing by best

>>4701869
I'm not sure if this the latest version, but here, anon
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xf4r12uzqkk83si/BURL_TUMD.pk3?dl=1

>>4701872
thanks you

How long until Kinsie's avatar gets a cameo in Square?

>>4701854
Not him, but I would like to know some of the effects. So how does it affect your maps? I imagine you create very nonlinear maps, but also your reluctant to make wide open maps with fields and whatnot.

Does anyone use freedoom as their main iwad?

>>4701894
Not me, it's ugly.

>>4701891
>I imagine you create very nonlinear maps, but also your reluctant to make wide open maps with fields and whatnot.
That's pretty much it, really. Non-linear, perhaps to a fault. Nothing TOO large...

>>4701598
Maybe the firing sounds? They're certainly a lot better than those of the plasma rifle or other guns.

>>4701130
>Maybe I need a break from threadposting duty

Nah, you're fine. I haven't made a thread since last month so I think I'm the one falling behind if anything.

Mapping sucks. Sleep is better. Fuck this.

>>4701416
>4701416
Cant add much that hasn't been said already.
You have to keep in mind one thing: fun.

Forcing the player to fight a single enemy with a certain weapon (like the baron with the normal shotgun) isn't fun, is tedious and just makes the fight last longer than it should because enemies by themselves are easy by default.
Making thing take time isn't fun, but you can find ways to make them amusing by creating fun arenas, little waves of enemies and providing the means to take them.
For instance you can give the player a Super Shotgun and a lot of imps with ocassional Shotgun Guys to act as refillers for you. There's some catharsis in that idea in seeing how lots of imps fall to a single blast.

So yeah, try to think "what would be fun FOR SOMEONE ELSE?", "Would I like this?" or "Am I making this last longer than it should?"

>switch hunts in Momento Mori

>>4702018
>switchunt in Eternal Doom

>>4702018
mae is better
remove bea ty

>>4701641

On one hand it's neat to explore unnecessary areas, finding items and powerups in certain branches but nothing explicity needed to advance. Sometimes it gets kind of annoying, like the kind of 'jumping' you had to do in Doom II MAP15 to get to get the red key, which you could get a lot easier if you did the very unintuitive thing of going through the teleporter in the room then immediately jumping back thru the exit teleporter.

Or you could just jump straight into the chasm and into the teleporter there to deposit you in the middle area and ignore half of the stage.

>>4702018
>switch hunts in Hexen

Not sure if yet another (I've found 7 so far) silly joke wall inscription or actual foreshadowing.

>>4702120
>Just found number 8
This is a bit ridiculous.

>>4702053
But what about
Maebea

>>4701134
One of the first proper megawads I've played through, and still come back to it and it's sequel every once in a while

>>4702136
how about I selmers your shit up

>duke nukem, little girl lover

>>4702153
How can anyone release this without checking what you wrote?
Unless the person who wrote is trying to tell us something.

>>4701416
Here's a demo on UV for GZDoom 3.3.1.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/zh252mgcjeh6t0u/FDA_UV.lmp

That Archvile was pretty funny. You could probably afford to be more bold with enemies and have more traps for players trying to run from fights. There's not really any reason for this map to not be playable on PRBoom.

Thanks for making this map.

>>4701527
You are playing through someone's fetish.

>>4702153
No, obviously he terminates the lovers of little girls.

>>4702169
my fetish is mspaint polygonal shapes

>>4702170
why would he do that?

>>4702172
Because it's a good thing.

>>4701885
i knew i wasn't the only one who thought of this

QuakeDroid vs QuakeTouch?
Which one is better?

>>4702172
Wasn't the punisher also anti-pedo?
You're not an ultimate badass unles you also protect kids from child diddlers

>>4702224
>pedo=child molester

Playing Heretic in ZDoom and at the start of each map most of my inventory items are taken out. Is that normal?

>>4702153
i can't believe duke nukem killed professional lol streamer, omnidestiny

>When the player tries to skip your map's entire gimmick

>>4702231
I don't wanna know where this thread is going next.

Fucking hell why doesn't this delta Touch shit have any documentation? I can't map controls to a gamepad for shit, the fucking app uses some kind of proprietary controller for mapping the touchscreen interface and it hijacks the bluetooth controller inputs too. It works for vanilla but I can't play mods this way.

>>4702236
yes, heretic only allows you to retain 1 of each item between levels. Good incentive to actually use them.

>>4702248
>demonizing someone for something they can't help rather than encouraging them to seek therapy
You can't cure it anymore than you can fix someone who wants to fuck animals. The least you can do is make them realize their attraction is incompatible with reality and how indulging their urges is actually harmful.
Or you can demonize them like the rest of society and equate what they are with being an innate criminal, making them hide their issue from the rest of society due to a fear of ostracism and persecution, leading them to slowly internally rationalize their urges and actually doing something harmful.
Your choice.

>>4702254
THIS IS A DOOM THREAD

>>4702256
Yeah I'm done with the off-topic.

>mfw everyone notices and download Main UAC Hangar demo 2 and nobody says literally anything about it.

Am i doing this map too right or it is so wrong that is not worth even a "Cool map bro"?

>>4702252
Wings of Wrath are the sole exception, those never carry over between levels.

>>4702273
Cool map bro

>>4702273
Ah, Warnock's dilemma...

>>4702273
>everyone download Main UAC Hangar demo 2
i didn't

Wow uh, Square took an interesting turn at the final stretch of E2.

>>4702282
lol, thanks even if you are being ironic

>>4702287
I hate falling into Warnock's dilemma desu, actually the lack of feedback makes me anxious.

>>4702292
I'm just overdramatizing because people kinda hyped up every time i posted screenshots, but then when i release the thing, everyone grabs it and runs away, i kinda feel stolen because of that.

how many enemy mods are out there?

>>4702303
>I'm just overdramatizing because people kinda hyped up every time i posted screenshots, but then when i release the thing, everyone grabs it and runs away, i kinda feel stolen because of that.
Happens a lot, sadly, most people would rather play and talk about something like Scythe 2 instead.

>>4702273
I didn't download your thing, but to speak more generally: I get pretty anxious about saying stuff because I usually feel like I'm not adding anything meaningful. Like, "How do I know that they didn't already think about what I'm going to say, what if I just didn't understand what they're trying to go for, what if I'm just repeating what they've already heard, who cares if all I have to say is 'i liked it', who gives a shit what I have to say anyway?"

That said, I've liked making demos for maps people post here because people seem to agree that even demos without any commentary or written thoughts are unequivocally useful.

>>4701079
>>4701196
>>4701248
https://youtu.be/ZpSNO6VSl8g

>>4702302
E2A10 Is basically MS-Paint Bowser's Castle and I'm loving it

>>4702303
>I'm just overdramatizing because people kinda hyped up every time i posted screenshots, but then when i release the thing, everyone grabs it and runs away, i kinda feel stolen because of that.
i liked your screenshots and the look of your maps. but as a traditionalist it's not the kind of wad i'd want to play. it's the same thing as screenshots of other newer games. i look at them and they're very nice and pretty. but i have no desire to actually play them, i just go straight back to doom.

What happened to The Ultimate Doom In Name Only?

>>4702231
I think the implication was clear about offending pedophiles.

Okay, finally finished Square E2, that boss fight and ending's got me hype as hell for E3, god damn.
The levels take a while to go through if you're aiming for all the secrets, but for me it was time well spent.

>>4702153
Lolicon is a disease
- Gook Nuke'em

Post about your least favorite enemies from any retro FPS game. Archviles are excluded.
Picture relevant. Fuck Pain Elementals and thief sole existence to spawn lost souls. Fuck the fact that they are living spam cannon and a waste of ammo due to their spongey amount of health and said lost souls. Lost souls are a good second.

>>4702383
what's the point if we're all just going to say the same thing

>>4702349
Never played TAOS. will check it out.

>>4702383

>>4702383
you can stand in front of their mouths to prevent them from summoning lost souls. I hate archviles and chaingunners a lot more.

>>4702349
>Dr Octagon
based

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qK_gO965xU

>>4702383
*blocks your path*

>>4702383

>>4702383
This fucking thing from Quake 1.They're rare sure but their pattern attack makes no sense.
I always use the Rocket Launcher to take them out as quickly as possible.

Are there any good really urban mapsets? I want to fight through an apartment building and a store and stuff.

Preferably no Lieutenant Luego maps.

>>4702424
These guys were added in at the last second and it really shows. I read somewhere that there movement is bugged and I wouldn't be surprised if that was true.

>>4702383
Anything that acts as support during an encounter. Fuck those spectres nibbling my behind while I'm fighting revenants, fuck the chaingunners laying suppressing fire so the archviles can revive everything. AND FUCK THAT GODDAMN PEICE OF SHIT IMP THAT KILLED ME FROM HALFWAY ACROSS THE MAP AFTER I FOUGHT THAT GODDAMN AMBUSH

>>4702430
planisphere 2

Man i hate these switch hunts! All I play is switch hunts!

Argh!

>>4702452
Sounds like you want to chillax.

>>4702418
>I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL

>>4702446
That's all outdoors, straight real streets with no real level design, and an obscene anount of linedefs that'll eat my framerate like a hungry beast.

I'm thinking something where at least one level features some indoors urban combat, maybe some streetfighting.
I'd just really like to run from room to room, appartment to appartment blasting imps, zombies and pinkies.

>>4702487
action doom?

>>4702338
It's still in development, 7 maps from completion according to recent posts

>>4702489
Doesn't play with mods.

>>4702493
Has anyone made a version of NeoDoom with all the decorate torn out?

>>4702498
I've got a version I modded to stick most of the monsters back to the vanilla ones.

what a mess pile just doesn't stop from getting bigger

Fucking shit. My computer froze up and now when I turn it on the screen goes black after the boot up. That's my fucking first proper effort at mapmaking put to a halt. Never gonna let my friends convince me to try a game again.

>>4702552
What happened?

>>4702552
Hey I think I know the solution, wait a bit

>>4702435
For sure those parts with these things quite ruined the maps for me.
If these enemies don't work properly then remove them.

>>4702552
> press Win+P keys, down arrow keys twice, and enter to extend display.

>>4702273
well its too damn good to criticize

also it fits perfectly with good shit like Dreadnought, the og D3mod and D4T

>Outshines the whole community with his CC3 map
>Outshines the whole community again with his CC4 maps
>Outshines 30 Skillsaw and skillsaw-esque maps with his only one in AA
>His map for TNT2 is so impressive, it causes the other 31 to get completely scrapped, delaying the project for 5+ years
Holy shit, how is Lupinx-Kassman so based, are the others even trying?

>>4702452
I wish Dreadnought had this hud, its closer to Prime 1 OG

>>4702579
wait until graf have a hissy fit with him

I want to expand the devtextures I made some months ago.

What are some common textures sizes I should add?

>>4701816
Why would /v/ get outraged? I don't think that image contains anything controversial. At most it praises Uncharted which would piss off some parts of /v/, but even that's just in passing.

>>4702579
>tfw he's making a map for your project

>>4702595
/v/ hates literally everything. I even saw a /v/tard once that said that games shouldn't have modding support.

>>4702603
So you're saying you saw one person say something, which most likely was a troll as usual, and you're applying that to the whole board?

>>4702579
Is this a pre-release screenshot?
I don't remember this map being so blue.

>>4702616
No, I just took it myself. In plain ZDoom.

>>4702418
How were you supposed to know what to do?

>>4702662
>something grabs you in a video game
>mashing buttons to struggle free

Who could have guessed.

>>4702561
I appreciate the effort but I have zero idea as to what that might solve. It looks more like a Win10 issue.

Either way I didn't want to blog my shit. Just lament that I'm kind of stuck without a way to continue making that map.

>>4702668
how would they know to mash the use button?

>>4702508
Could you post it?

>>4702670
I have had black screen issues with win10 on a device that I solved exactly like that.

Alright guys, I need some help. I'm trying to play beautiful doom with zdoom. Downloaded zdoom launcher, added my wad and beautiful doom pk3 file, launch, and... "very fatal error". Won't run the game. What gives?

>>4702709
Use Smooth Doom instead. Seriously.

>>4702579
Although gorgeous to look at I can't remember anything standout regarding the gameplay of his Ancient Aliens map

>>4702717
Tried that, now I'm getting this. I'm probably doing something retarded but I don't know what.

>>4702724
I'm gonna hazard a guess and say update your shit dude.

>>4702725
Update what though? Like just use gzdoom instead or...? Sorry, I'm a doomlet and haven't figured this stuff out yet.

>>4702727
Isn't there a more recent version of Zdoom?

>>4702727
Use GZDoom,it's much better.

>>4702727
ZDoom doesn't get updates any more. Use latest GZDoom and choose the software renderer.

(Choose the software renderer if you prefer the authenticity or whatever that is.)

BTW Beautiful Doom recently had an update.
Taken straight out of the ZDoom thread
* ADDED/IMPROVED *
-- Bullet tracers now respect autoaim settings
-- Arch-Vile's attacks now trigger fire death animations (although inconsistently)
* CHANGED *
-- Reduced the volume of some of the louder sounds:
- chaingun fire sound by 40%
- chaingun emtpy casing sound by 50%
- pistol emtpy casing sound by 30%
- shotgun empty shell sound by 60%
- chainsaw wall hit sound by 65%
* FIXED *
-- Added code optimization that *should* fix the issue that caused Pain Elemental/Cacodemon deaths to sometimes crash the game (thanks Rowsol)
-- The kick attack no longer pushes enemies away if they're behind walls, and the push effect is only activated if you actually hit a monster
-- Chaingun will no longer fire 2 bullets if you have only 1 Clip left
-- Fixed an issue that allowed using kick in the short window after Vanilla Chainsaw primary attack (thanks SiFi270)
-- While using Dual Pistols with Bullet Tracers on, the tracers are now properly aligned with the guns (used to be reversed)
-- Revenant's missile is no longer missing dynamic light (thanks Rowsol)
-- BDoom*.txt now properly lists GZDoom 3.2.5 as the earliest compatible version
-- GZDoom loading screen now properly lists the release date instead of TBA (GAMEINFO lump)
-- Fixed the spelling of the name of the 'Beautiful Doom Credits' menu (thanks Chewcumber)

>>4702732
>>4702735
Okay I downloaded GZD, added it to my launcher, ran it with smooth doom and now it seems to be working great. Thanks fellas.

>>4702737
I still think it's pretty shit compared to Smooth Doom (muh ssg gibs & d64 sprites) + perkristian sound mod

I'm giving Golden Souls a try and so far I'm having a lot of fun just from noticing the ammount of work that went into it.

Are you allowed to jump here?

>>4702748
Yeah dude, jumping is a core thing in Golden Souls.
Watch the fuck out for the plants, you'll grow to hate them.

>>4702749
That'd be a heck of a thing wouldn't it, a Mario mod where you're not allowed to jump. People'd be all like WTF bro, WTF!?

>>4702749
>>>4702748
>Yeah dude, jumping is a core thing in Golden Souls.
>Watch the fuck out for the plants, you'll grow to hate them.
I hate those plants.

>>4701069
Holy FUUGGGGKKK
>>4694757

>>4702791
I've heard a lot of opinions regarding SS1.Should I buy it now or should I wait the sales first?

They say it's a first person metroidvania and honestly I loved Super Metroid.

There's not as many resources for Hexen as I thought, does anything cover adding new classes? I wanna add in one or two more to a sort of overhaul mod.

>>4702836
people do that for doom source ports instead, like Wrath of Cronos which is basically new classes for hexen, with an exp/level up system and a skill tree.

>>4702585
Made these so far. Anything to add?

>>4702841
These are really nice. Could do some for hurt floors?

Were do I download WADs in some larger pack?
Downloading every WAD individually sucks...

>>4702838
Ah, I see. Well, is there anything I can find that talks about that. Just on the face of it it seems like a bit of a task to implement Hexen classes into doom.

>>4702702
Nah, didn't work.

Well, sticking to the topic: what's everyone's personal philosophy on secrets? Few and far between or cram a whole ton in? I'm generally not a fan of leaving empty space in maps, so packing some secrets is always nice. At the same time, my issue is wanting to reward too much for secrets.

>>4702735
>and choose the software renderer
y tho

>>4702883
because he was running zdoom while knowing of gzdoom, so I assumed wanting the carmack renderer was the reason

>>4702424
>>4702383
Was going to post these. Their hitboxes feel totally fucked, and they spazz around all over the place. Fucking piss me off.

>>4702843
Sure, I will do them tomorrow.

Hmm, I'd put up-an-down pointing arrows to the door instead of "door". Means it goes equally well for platforms and lifts.

>>4702898
this was meant for
>>4702841

Playing DM4 Jam for Quake right now.
And holy fuck if it's a solid map pack.
It's challenging,the level design is captivating.

Currently playing The way ID did for Ultimate Doom.With Dead Marine and new mugshot.
Do you prefer this or the sequel?

>>4702978
You mean D2TWID? DTWID is vastly superior, since it's based on superior levels.

>>4702950
Looks nice.

Though personally I would use just a mid texture to make the porch railing, it'll look just as good while using less memory.
I'd also suggest making a screen door texture (even if just cobbling one together from stock Doom textures), and finding a glass texture for the window (you could just swipe one from like Action Doom or something). There exists rooftile textures, somewhere, I'll go see if I can find one, also I'd use that dark metal plating to texture the little chimney, I think the shiny metal texture makes it look like it hasn't been used.

Overall it looks really nice, just a bit of polish and it looks very good.

>>4702950
wait a second...

>>4702998
Sneed's

>>4703004
HOMER HAS THEM
RED
TOMACCO
SEEDS

>>4702980
The initial maps of D2TWID were weird but I personally enjoyed.
On the other hand I loved the way Cyberdemon was introduced in DTWID.

>>4702980
Ignore this fool. He thinks his opinions are fact.

>>4702273
>everyone notices

I didn't, I've been terribly blind since I've been knee-deep in the code recently. Can you spoonfeed and repost for me?

>>4702950
Mai's Hip and Flair

>>4703020
He asked for peoples' opinions, dumbass

>>4702998
Wait a minute, that card...

>>4703032
"DTWID is vastly superior, since it's based on superior levels" is an opinion presented as a fact.

>>4703050
Do I have to preface every statement with "Hey friend, this is just my opinion, and keep in mind this is just what I personally believe,"

It's tool time.

>>4703059
No, of course not. There are much shorter ways. But I am not here to teach you the subtleties of our language. Consider hiring an ESL tutor.

>>4703071
All I did was asking which one was better,come on guys don't be like that.

>>4703067
could make the fucker actually build persistent constructs.

>>4703067
How about making a proper level instead of some social media likebait crap?

>>4703081
To play doubles advocate for a moment, what makes that different from the gameplay mod webms where people test crap in the courtyard of level 1 in Doom 2?

>>4703081
levels are boring

>>4703067
Hope he says AEUHHH when he attacks.

>>4703071
>>4703050
Hey friend, this is just my opinion, and keep in mind this is just what I personally believe:

You're a fucking bitch.

>>4703085
I literally made that level because the courtyard was too small for a lot of things.

>>4703086
Levels are a necessary foundation for all of this, anon.

>>4703085
The latter are WIPs that will eventually be part of a finished project. Not some stupid meme crap designed to go viral on Twitter.

>>4703094
>Not some stupid meme crap designed to go viral on Twitter.
speaking of which it looks like @doom_txt is jumping on the doombabbies bandwagon:
https://twitter.com/doom_txt/status/982309870631141376

>>4703092
But you don't have to make levels for a gameplay mod.

>>4703094
I'd say that's a WIP and it's probably going to be put in that ouchface mod. Granted THAT is a viral twitter bait project, but whatever. I think the creator has enough practice fucking about with joke projects, I think it's high time they buckle on their big boy pants and try making an actual gameplay mod.

I know you're here too, start writing down shit and try to construct something with an actual gameplay flow to it.

>>4703095
>calling redditor's behaviors out in public

I don't see the problem?

>>4703095
>filename

>>4703102
This is true, but without mappers we'd all be playing Doom 2 stock maps forever. Gameplay mods or not, one can only run through Doom 2 so many times

>>4702950
>>4702994
I dug up some textures/flat from my folders.

The glass one should be a 128x128 square.

>>4703095
But that's pretty accurate.
Except the HDoom part.Most Brutal Doomers hate it.

>>4703104
pretty sure they made a horror mod for the vinesauce contest this year

>>4703126
Sorry but I just made it as a joke, thanks for the textures anyway

Finished 300 Minutes in /vr/ and it was great
Is it me or does one of the maps have a Beserk reference?

>>4703146
Oh, fuck. Well, someone else can use them.

>>4703149
Another map is a blatant Kemono Friends reference.

>start making map's entry room
>agonize for an hour over what textures to use for trim

Don't interrupt him. https://youtu.be/KN0K58EfJSg

>>4703108
There's more maps on idgames than you'll ever play in your lifetime, and it is almost guaranteed that any map that gets made for this thread will be played a handful of people once and forgotten. There is no drought forcing you to play Doom 2 forever. A jokewad that makes one funny webm ultimately makes more of a difference than one fine or even good map.

Anyone tried this texture pack?

https://www.dsogaming.com/news/this-texture-pack-adds-2-2gb-of-2k-textures-to-the-original-classic-doom-games/

>>4703196
>hi-res textures
it's absolutely hideous, guarantee it

>>4703189
>A jokewad that makes one funny webm ultimately makes more of a difference than one fine or even good map
Holy fuck imagine being this delusional.

>>4703189
Not all of them are great or memorable.

For every Memento Mori or Suspended In Dusk, there are several dozen myhouse.wad or test.wad
There's been a lot of good stuff made over the years, plenty to play, but we aren't yet at a point where I'd say we have effectively endless goodness.

>>4703189
>A jokewad that makes one funny webm ultimately makes more of a difference than one fine or even good map.

Okay I'm all in favor of gameplay mods and jokemods but I'm gonna have to ask you to stop right there.

>"jokewad"
>it's just doom but the textures are changed to the flavor of the week meme

>metadoom
>big room full of hell razers
>they all start shooting their beams at me
>framerate goes to shit

>>4703149
Which one is Berserk and the other one Kemono Friends?

>>4703196
I've come to accept that these will never stop being made, and they will never stop being bad

>>4703189
Welp I've just been convinced to quit mapping forever. Again.

I think the work done is great but why don't you make them for another game?
Something that is not from the early 90s

>>4703225
start mapping again or I'll put chaingunners on any hills or mountains overlooking your house

>>4703221
I think the work done is great but why don't you make them for another game?
Something that is not from the early 90s

Sorry I forgot to reply.

>>4703189
I don't know, i always assumed that one of the best parts about Doom wad/moding is the ability to make recognizable levels despite the limitations, even if you add in new textures or music

>>4703220
One's hugsy cutesy and the other's rippy teary. I'll leave you to guess which is which.

>>4703235
O_O;

>>4703235
I got a mountains and hills captcha and had to check it very carefully
>>4703243
I think he means which maps in 300minvr are references to those

>>4703237
It isn't very good for late 90s games either. Ever see those people who play Duke Nukem 3D with the 3D model pack and high res textures? Aesthetic poison.

It looks about as vomit inducing as Doomsday with its own 3D models. I can't fathom people looking at that shit and thinking "Yes, this looks very good."

>>4703221
I could see a retexture pack being made for Doom where the goal isn't to make it "high rez," but rather to stay faithful to the original style and just add some extra details, like maybe give the zombies a more defined face or a more muscly approach to the imps, but still utilize Doom's pixel-based aesthetic (and not try the "bruh im totally retro cus its a stick figure with legs in pixels!!!!1" shit most games that try to look "retro" do).

Maybe add more mountains from Yangshuo County to Episode 1's skybox texture, perhaps. Of course, not to the point where the entire mod's a visual mess.

>>4703243
I dunno dude, the kemono friends map had quite a fair bit of ripping and tearing.

this map might actually have been easier with hideous destructor than it is normally

i was able to bypass the archviles completely, since i could punch the door at the start to open it without alerting them

>>4703067
The AAEEHHH is real

Oh no, it's a desert...
I hate deserts in videogames.

>>4703431
I love them! Mine's the lollipop thing in Kirby that makes you invincible.

>>4703454
That's DESSERT, with two S's

I wonder why the keep reusing the same stock pictures every other pack, the result always ends up looking the same. what do they do differently from one another?

why not just redo them from scratch with higher detail? would that demand more effort than they're actually willing to put into the project?

>>4703464
i know ;-)

>>4702273
Its fanciful looks intimidate me and my toaster.

>>4702250
>>4702250
honestly if I wanted to play mods I'd just bring my laptop along. it seems fine for the one casual playthrough every once in a while but I imagine anything besides vanilla would play exactly the way I'm picturing it.

I'll be happy and fully realized the day I get my gamesir t1s. I would take anything really, just please don't make me stomach this godawful touchscreen system ever again. touchscreens are legit cancer for gaming, especially fps gaming. ESPECIALLY mobile fps gaming.

>>4703021
Download in is in the OP download list.

>>4703495
Ironically it is not all that resource intensive if you play vanilla or mods that is not heavy on effects like D4T.

>>4703095
>not using crouch and jump
literally how do you even

>>4703529
>Ironically it is not all that resource intensive if you play vanilla or mods that is not heavy on effects like D4T.
Sweeeeet, trying it now.

Continuing on that abandon spaceship exploration ("spacehulk-inspired" as I said in my last post here) map I was working on yesterday. I still don't feel confident about my skills in Slade, specially because this all looks purposefully boxy.

>>4703095
i swear to god it feels like the people who hate brutal doom are the ones who talk about it the most.

>>4703546
Unpurposefully, I meant to say.

>>4703546
awww, how cute, he drew his map on a piece of paper. did you tuck it in inside your trapper keeper too?

>>4703551
Don't have to be a nignog about it. Graphing paper would be pretty useful for getting your ideas out there.

>>4703551
Guess that's that. Why bother getting into this shit.
Digital deleted too.

>>4703551
bet he has a pocket protector too, fuckn nerd

>>4703551
Nobody cares about your retarded posts
>>4703567
Nobody cares about your bitchy cries for attention.

Get a fucking room or make some maps.

>>4703546
>>4703567
Oh come on, man.

>>4703567
Just ignore the shitposter.

>>4703551
You fuck off, PERMANENTLY.

>>4703578
I'm surprised you're defending him being such a sensitive baby that a little joke post makes him throw a tantrum and delete his work. Reminds me of Phil Fish.

>>4703551
Fuck you. Seriously, fuck you.

>>4703551
blow it out your ass fag

why all the outrage?
literally just report the post and move on.

>>4703587
FUCK OFF SORIEL

>>4703593
Who the hell is that?

This is pathetic.

>>4703592
>expecting rationality out of the same thread that once vouched for the xenoshitter

>>4703592
>report the post
For what?

>>4703551

>>4703603
don't even acknowledge

just fucking report him and hope his friends clean up the mess like they're supposed to

And there goes the thread

>>4703529
It's been in my to-play pile for a while, I've just not got round to it yet.

>>4703592
Because he's being an ass for no reason with someone genuinely being creative and giving his idea shape, outright killing his thrill.
The kind of people who make fun of your ideas or stuff you love is the worst.

I refuse to believe this is real. It's more likely one person made all three posts, to manufacture outrage. And it's worked.

>>4703603
At least this was back then, by someone doing his job.

>>4702430
i havent played doom in a while but i always had a lot of fun with hellonearthstarterpack last year

>>4703610
Trying to shift blame again? Not gonna work this time.

>>4703609
>Because he's being an ass
Because of a joke post? You people are way too sensitive. I bet if the guy hadn't thrown a tantrum none of you would have been bothered.

Are you trying to make /doom/ look bad or something?

>>4703613
he said no sergeant mark maps
if you've been away though you probably don't know the latest thing is to give him silly names in the form military rank + stereotypical latino name

>>4703616
Yeah, just a joke. Like you trying to drive the same person out of multiple threads is a "joke".

Fuck you. Don't ever come to these threads again or you will face the worst.

>>4703609
I'm not that guy, but you can't be sitting here losing your mind over a shitposter because some fag has thin enough skin or a massive enough need for attention to chuck a map over mean words on the internet. The shitposter needs to fuck off, yeah, but the other guy needs to stop being such a little crybaby. It's best not to give either of them more attention than they deserve.

>>4703619
Why not offer that person legitimate criticism rather than giving attention to the person trying to make them look bad?

>>4703619
>>4703619
>The shitposter needs to fuck off, yeah, but the other guy needs to stop being such a little crybaby. It's best not to give either of them more attention than they deserve.
this basically. you are sensible

>>4703620
Because there's nothing to criticise, and it's clear the map poster is just fishing for sympathy by being an overly dramatic retard. Once the map is out I'll give feedback, Just like I did for his other map.

>>4703615
He's certainly trying hard to do that.

>>4703618
>Yeah, just a joke.
Yes, it is a joke, no matter which way you spin it and try to make it sound worse than it is. The only reason people are outraged is because the mapper turned out to be an extremely sensitive person who deletes his work at the slightest thing.
>Like you trying to drive the same person out of multiple threads is a "joke".
??
The hell are you on about?
>Don't ever come to these threads again or you will face the worst.
What the hell is this? A deviantart comment section? You're gonna "stab in the balls" too?

I could swear drawing map sketches was even recommended here sometimes. It's neat and can really help you visualize the maps.

>>4703628
I'd certainly encourage it. It's no different than doing sketches for character or weapon design. Getting that shit out onto paper can do wonders for creativity

>>4703624
>>4703626
Both of you should fuck off. I'm tired of this behavior infesting EVERY fucking thread I come into.

>>4703567
what's that thing with strawberries on the package

>>4703532
It's easy: keep your damn thumb off the space bar and keep your pinky away from shift. Or control if you're a weirdo, or C if you're some depraved heathen

>>4703636
Nah.

>>4703617
That's utterly retarded and yet fits perfectly for here.

>>4703641
>playing doom with a keyboard instead of a two-stick gamepad

>>4703650
is that romero ad thing going to be a new /doom/ meme?

>>4703634
If it helps use fingerpaint or mspaint or interpretive dance or whatever works.

>>4703567
Oh come the fuck on. That guy was an asshole, but you have to be a bit thicker-skinned if you want to use 4chan (or exist among other humans in general).

>>4703650
And then there's THIS asshole.

>>4703658
It's 360 degrees of death

House of 1000 Monsters.

I'm currently playing with some Quake 3 skins.
Do anyone here know some models that also have bots?
So far I've found a xenomorph,Snoopy,Caleb and Johnny Bravo.
I also have Horny from Dungeon Keeper but he doesn't have a bot.