/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

300 MINUTES OF /vr/
-Project completed!
-https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/97033-300-minutes-of-vr-speedmap-megawad/

QUMP
-Soon?
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp_ZqCZPJKk

HUMP
-Project ends on the 24th of September
-All rules found here
-https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=57649&p=1014985#p1014985

OP
-Looking to update the OP, suggestions are welcome
-Include thevidya.site and The Inmost Dens somewhere?

=== NEWS ===

[9-22] An E2 replacement
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ypjf0kfmj5tnbl5/icantseeshitwithoutmyglasses.wad?dl=0

[9-122 Crispy Doom v4.2 released; supposed to be the last release based on SDL1
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1799088

[9-20] Evolution of the WAD E9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-NXPbHTQYo

[9-18] Sun Damage Omen, gameplay mod alpha release
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=57902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4PpeIyJ3t0

[9-17] 300 Minutes of /vr/ released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/97033-300-minutes-of-vr-speedmap-megawad/

[9-13] The Ultimate Torment & Torture: Supportive Edition; a mod friendly edit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENm-hx9aiZ4

[9-11] Doom Builder X: continuation of DB2 by anotak
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/96943-doom-builder-x-2130-map-editor-forked-from-db2/

[9-11] PortaDOOM Cacowards 2016 released
https://spideroak.com/browse/share/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases/

[9-10] A new Touhou Doom mod
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=57817

[9-10] The Inmost Dens, a sideblog of new mod releases for Doom and other retro FPS
https://inmost-dens.tumblr.com/
http://terminusest13.tumblr.com/post/165135258746/the-inmost-dens

[9-8] Golden Souls creator working on a Castlevania TC, Simon's Destiny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvzan3IQoac

=== PREVIOUS ===

http://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

=== PROTIP ===

Would you like to submit any news, personal releases, or other contributions? Just reply/backlink to this post with a link.

Is there a wad that replaces Doom 1, 2, and Final textures with Doom 64 style textures?

QUMP allegedly soon

>>4276217
Think there was one guy who working on such a thing for at least Doom 1, not sure what happened to it.

>>4275271
>I don't see how you're supposed to beat InYourAss from a pistol start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq_f9unvnKA

people is shitting on this map because you have to die a few times to get how it's done

>>4276198
How has it not hit me before that he's holding an AK-47 in an ostensibly WW2 era game

>>4276267
People are probably predisposed to shit on it because of what the map is.
It is nicely detailed.

can't believe kegan is fucking dead

don't lookat the previous thread, he lies

>>4276414

literally who

>>4276241
Awesome can't wait to finally play me some QUMP

>Took me 10 dummy sectors to make properly the 3d sector toilet

>>4276326
You were still reeling from him having an M-16 on Wolf3D's cover

>>4276326
Wasn't the AK inspired by German WWII weapons?

>>4276464

I think a .md3 model is way better in this case

>>4276464
>>4276476

Yeah, you could use the Doom 3 toilet, it is EZ AF to rip it since it is in lightwave format due to being a static map prop.

>>4276198
>image

That got me thinking about the special level in DoomRL where you fight the Angel of Death and can only use melee attacks. My idea to make it a Doom wad is as a special starting map (like MAP99 or something) where you start with only fists and have to punch the AoD and maybe also lost souls and pinkys to death using scattered berserk packs. And after you beat him, he drops either the Spear of Destiny, Azrael's Scythe, or the Dragonslayer depending on either difficulty level or how much damage you took during the fight. After you grab the weapon, the exit opens which drops you to MAP01 so you can play any wad using your shiny new melee weapon.

What do you guys think?

>One will protect you
>The others will try to kill you
Choose carefully

>>4276550
I take calleb cuz in samsara is OP and thats why he was removed
SO im good

>>4276556
>I take calleb cuz in samsara is OP and thats why he was removed
No that's why strifeguy was removed

>>4275854
>went to bed before I saw this, now I'm at work typing under my desk
Pistol does much more damage per shot, and is therefore more ammo efficient. It's also more accurate when not fired continuously. The SMG is better at DPS than the pistol but overall is a less efficient way to spend bullet ammo than the chaingun, but the Pistol is just as efficient in a bullet -> damage sense as the chaingun.

To put it another way
>SMG kills fast and is good on enemies up to revenants, great stunlocker but you'd be better off using the chaingun if you're close and ammo is tight
>Pistol uses less ammo and is good on enemies up to cacodemons, deadly accurate for sniping individual humans or imps
>PSMG has recharging ammo and is the weakest option, but is still good to finish off weak enemies or clear small rooms
Each option has its own advantages.

>>4276550
Fred Chexter is an obvious choice. He'll zorch those fuckers back from whence they came.

How much can you remove from Doom and still call it Doom?

What are the criteria for people that create content for it to still be for Doom?

>>4276550
none
duke

i'll just call the cops because there's a dead corpse at my front door

>>4276571

it needs the doom wad

>>4276161
okay thanks for the update.

as a suggestion, may i move the yellow key outside so it's not just plonked in the middle of a random corridor? if i put it here you get a nice glimpse of it from near the start -- i love this kind of thing.

>>4276267
>shitting in your ass
well, this is just perverted

>>4276618
What is in that?

>>4276638
that's some heavy-r shit

>>4276267
Your map literally reads "I-N-Y-O-U-R-A-S-S" on the automap. It's like something a giggling 12 year old would do ("haha look timmy I made it say rude words hahaha"). Maybe it's not so surprising that people don't take you seriously. Especially if then the gameplay feels like borderline trolling. Leanrn your lesson and make a less immature map next time.

>>4276638
>a borderline trolling map from /vr/
who could have tought

>>4276659
I mean >>4276657

>>4276659
>implying everyone on /vr/ is as as much of a prick as he is

He would BTFO doombuy.

>>4276657

>>4276667
at least is not a terry wad

>>4276657
>Leanrn your lesson and make a less immature map next time
>immature
seriously, it's a fucking videogame

>>4276669
what could he possibly do to keep me from ever buying doom

>>4276682

/vr/ takes its Doom very seriously, Sir.

>>4276550
top row middle isn't wearing any pants

>>4276682
no, hdoom is a fucking videogame

Is there a way to create "dull" coloured lighting in UDMF maps? The desaturation modifier in the colorsetter thing has almost zero effect.

Attached is what I'm trying to achieve. The left side is how it looks, the right side is how I want it to look, which required Photoshop.

has anyone successfully mapped the entirety of doom 3 in doom 2?

I just found that Flak Cannon model from Unreal Championship (XBox) has a different model from UT '03 and '04, and I consider it to be the better looking than those.

Any way to get it out as a model, or maybe make a sprite rip?

Final Doomer update when?

>>4276550
>The others will try to kill you
But why? What did I do wrong? With that being said, I'll chose Strife Guy, if he's as OP as he would be in Samsara. Otherwise, I'll choose Doomguy or BJ.

>>4276721
that thing doesn't even have a trigger what the fuck

>>4276776
None of UT weapons had before 2007.

>>4276782
half of ut2004's weapons had fucking music controls on them

>>4276628
yea sure that sounds good to me but make a little platform for it so it stands out a little, otherwise it might be easy to miss if the aracnotron stands over it

>>4276806

in fact, you might wanna just remove the aracnotron entirely

>>4276643
the game

>>4276806
thanks, will do

>>4276829
i like the crossfire effect you get from being trapped between two sides both with arachnotrons firing down at you.

>>4276550
I'm gonna have to take Nukem because he can jetpack to avoid damage and shrink everyone else

>>4276804
aiwa

>>4276192
>Mike actually made that icon for personal use for Kingsway, but it's so damn good I had to ask if I could use it too
which icon exactly? regardless it all looks real nice

y eah duke n ujkem balls of stee

What the worst black and white enemy in Coloful Hell?

Also, what the fuck is the White Archvile even doing?

>>4276414
it's time to stop

>>4276708
anyone?

>>4277172
take a guess. if somebody had, it would be big news.

>>4277172
Not really, but there were maps inspired by the game.
I think Hellbound had a map inspired by Doom 3's hell.

>>4277172
is your work now

>>4276618
so freedoom isn't doom?

What's the best sourceport of Wolf3d for Windows?

>>4276706
perhaps try the fade function instead?

>>4277190
ECWolf

Man I want this illustration but without the Magazine stuff

post your ouch faces

>>4277193

Not quite what I was looking for, but it does create a fog effect, which was going to be my next question.

>>4277210
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nsg7TbxnYA

Nice, this one even has colors.

>>4276657

I didn't even post that

>>4277228
Captcha agrees, too!

>>4277210

>>4277228

Charcola does some pretty nice waifus.

>>4276806
>>4276863
all right i think i'm done with this for the time being. i also fixed some texture alignment / doortrack pegging. sadly i don't think the melting walls by the blue key switch can be fixed easily, if i remove the lower unpegging flag the alignments all screw up and can't be fixed without redesigning the whole thing so that the upper and lower textures are on the different linedefs. so i'm not going to bother.

here's the map and three quick exits, one for each key/route, starting with blue, which seems to be the quickest

http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=ew09et

>>4277303
red key route, slightly longer

loading up doomseeker for the first time in a while after the 3.0 drop, there's some neat shit that no one is playing
>strife deathmatch
>custom hexen co-op
>duel tourneys
>D4T deathmatch

>>4277306
yellow route, probably the easiest to get to the exit, due to fewest hitscanners, but the longest distance/slowest

i hope some of the top speedguys get into recording 300minvr when its done. it has some nice maps for it.

>praise vanilla wizard
How is this remotely fair?

>>4277310
haha you should have seen it before it went through playtesting

>>4277315
It's just pure bullshit. No wonder the guy called himself "Faggot". I might have to give up on the "no saves" run, because my skill level is pitiful as far as this map is concerned.

>>4277319
i think the first version took me about 20 tries before i managed to exit it. there were 20+ sergeants and 6 revenant sniper towers in an open area, and 4 (yes four) stimpacks. now there is a bit more health and fewer sergeants, but i think the rocket launcher secret is still necessary.

>>/vr/thread/S4230357#p4230890
>>/vr/thread/S4241017#p4243619

perfect hatemail is harder than PVW now. before they were the other way round.

don't worry, the barons will complete the level for me.

>>4277336
Yeah, this just seems like needless masochism and anti-fun from my perspective, so I'm done.
The rest of the wad was really nice though, with a few small exceptions. Toomb, Curse of the Donuts and Blue Sanctuary all stood out as some really cool and well made levels in particular.

>>4277346
I fucking hate that level

what was it like playing doom on crt

Turns out MetaDoom and Doom 2 In Name Only isn't that much of a great mix.
When the wad kills you, it means you not only loose all of your weapons and only recover a few, but the enemy randomization gets stronger as well.

>>4277346
>>4277382
which one is it? the final frontier?

>>4277354
From what I hear you aren't the only one to give up around this point.

The last few maps are really hard, especially if you're pistol starting.

>>4277008
The Blaz head icon of course. The other icons are all from other video games

>>4277428
>The Blaz head icon of course. The other icons are all from other video games
oh, of course
i suppose that was obvious in hindsight
sorry, my knowledge of other video games is weak

>>4277443
In fairness I have a habit of digging deep for sprites and other things to draw reference from in vidya.

>>4277448
you know like when you play a mod and all the sprites are just recolours of stuff from the last mod you played? like the modpacks in doomrla are also in russian overkill as one of the ammo types, that kept confusing me for a while. avoiding that by using obscurer sources is good.

>>4277336
>ow there is a bit more health and fewer sergeants
Thank goodness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P3JGxBNUyM

>Online SNES Doom deathmatch
>this was done back in the day and not as a modern ROM hack

Here thing

>>4277667
what's the map?

>>4277672
zone300.wad map01

>>4277672
>completely ignores the mod, to ask what the map is

>>4277673
huh that's pcorf right? i'm sure i'd played that. damned if i recognise it though

>>4277679
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/65679-zone-300-new-32-level-vanilla-compatible-megawad-released-300-linedefs/
It's this, didn't even know what pcorf was before googling it. Looks like I have another community project wad to try.

>>4276804
Half of UT2004's playermodels had music controls on them, too, like Romulus and Remus's belts.

>>4276198
>Be to busy with getting my master's degree to play games.
>Finish the damn thing and reinstall zDoom
>Realize there's a brutal version of Wolfenstein
>Realize there's WolfenDoom-Blade of Agony
No sleep tonight boys.

Boy there is something wacky going on in...I don't even know if it's the editor or the map format, but somehow two slopes with identical angles and sector heights render with different heights, and absolutely nothing seems to resolve it.

>>4277684
>didn't even know what pcorf was before googling it
heh it's the name of the guy who made the wad. there's also a 100 lines community project with multiple authors

>>4277713
Oh wow I guess I never noticed.

>>4277354
Out of curiosity I skipped ahead to see what this guys second map was.
It's actually more bullshit than the last one. Jesus Christ. Why ruin a nice wad like this?

Sun Damage Omen has probably the most satisfying chainsaw weapon I've ever used. That shit is beautiful.

Scroton quit self-trolling it won't bait people into giving you an ego massage.

>>4277667
Arcane Dimensions Doom Edition?

>>4277742
pretty much everything about it is pretty satisfying, except the rocket. too bad i suck at it

>>4277201
Learn photoshop nigga

>>4277756
I mean I've never played AD though I do have it stashed away somewhere. I definitely made the trails and stuff look Quake-y because I like that aesthetic.

choose your path (300min)
---

now with 100% kills. putting in a load of crushers to squash everything in the other path seems to work.

http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=at77qo

>>4277776
AD changes all the hitscan weapons in Quake to partical effects fairly similar to yours.

>>4277797
Not all the hitscan weapons, just the shotguns (and AD's own triple-barrel variant). The Lightning Gun is still hitscan, at least unless the map author replaces it with the Plasma cannon.

>>4277802
I mean I guess. Lightning gun never felt like hitscan to me because of the physical projectile, even though obviously it's hitscan in use.

But it also replaces all the enemy hitscans with that as well.

>>4277803
>Lightning gun never felt like hitscan to me because of the physical projectile
It's just a visual beam, no different than the LG in later Quake games or the Linkgun in UT. The fact the shaft appears instantly should hint that it's hitscan, no idea why it would feel otherwise.

>>4277793
Seems to work perfectly fine in chocolate doom, good job. But damn does it look weird when you noclip to the path you didn't choose.

>>4277807
It doesn't feel like the typical instant travel bullets like 99% of hitscan weapons out there, because it has a physical presence is all I meant to imply, which is why I forgot it when thinking of hitscan. I didn't mean to say that it wasn't blatantly obvious it was hitscan in function.

>>4277815
Ah. That's fair I guess, especially how in vanilla Quake the beam kind of lags behind your crosshairs due to engine limitations.

>>4277815
worth noting is that it does have limited range
which might've been fucking with your perception of the thing

>>4277797
Oh, well, AD Doom edition then, but the player's guns are still hitscan, those are just tracers (and configurable). Monster guns are projectiles though.

>>4276198
Spear of Destiny is so underrated.

>>4277676
does it matter? doesn't look interesting.

Before: https://pastebin.com/BWMsJy3r
After: https://pastebin.com/MbkLmeQY

Testing inventory stuff.
What am I doing wrong? Instead of firing 5 shots in quick succession normally and then entering the "reload" state it fires eternally without pause, just much slower than usual.

man of doom

>>4277941

>>4277947
I'll try HeXen next

>>4277953

is this what doom was like back in the day

>>4276550
I know I'm gonna eat shit for asking, but who is bottom right?

>>4277986
Protagonist of Strife.

>>4277991
Derp. Of course. Thanks, Anon.

Trying to run blood with bloodgdx. I put all the files in my steam blood folder and downloaded the latest java, but when I double click the jar file nothing happens.

>>4277998
Is java set in your path variable in windows? (google it)
if so, try this command in the command prompt
java -jar BloodGDX.jar

>>4276550
But where is Marathon's Cyborg?

>>4278017
i set the path to jdk9, and tried the prompt and this is what it gave me

>get Photoshop on new laptop
>text and interface is fucking microscopic
>apparently it's because my monitor is too high resolution
>this is a problem that goes back like 7 years and which Adobe hasn't really addressed at all
So I might not be doing so much spriting for a while.

>>4278034
did you set it to the bin folder in java?

>>4278065
i changed it to bin and now i get this

>>4278082
are you in the same directory as bloodgdx?

Is there any way to make an item/weapon that makes a door gets "stuck" for some time? Like a Hand Welder or something like that?

>>4278085
now i got this

>>4278095
I'm running java 1.8 and it seems to work fine. Maybe try downgrading?

>>4278093
maybe with zscript; you'd need to mess with the door thinker to make it not open if welded, then figure out how the hell you detect someone welding a specific door. I have no idea if that's actually possible.

>>4278102
is that JRE 8?
I'll try that then

>>4277702
What editor are you using?

>>4278104
Just had an idea for a simpler alternative:
Make a deployable item that is wide, impassable, and has some decent HP, like a barricade or cover. That would serve for what I had in mind, which is making the Sentry Gun take more time to deploy without fucking over the player too much..

>>4278128
that'd work, and has been done before. just keep in mind that actor hitboxes are square from above, so you'll need multiple things overlapping each other if you don't want it to be oddly fat or act weird diagonally.

as for keeping track of health, have one central barricade with X health, and set it as the master of the side barridcades. whenever a side barricade takes damage, have them deal damage to the main barricade. +NORADIUSDMG might be good for avoiding explosion weirdness.

>>4278143
Rayen? What did they mean?

was there ever a doom map simply called 'doom'

>>4278139
Only problem I'm having is that item sprites are not appearing on the inventory bar. Probably caused by the HUD I'm using.

MORE ANIME
I REQUIRE MORE

is there a combined mod of high noon drifter and complex dooms monsters?

>>4278186
Can Complex Doom's monsters can be loaded by their own? Then it can work because High Noon Drifter doesn't use custom monsters, you're even encouraged to load any other monster mod you want.

>>4276550
Who's top-middle?

Hey friends, how do I mass scale sprites in zdoom? I need to "scale 0.62" on mostly everything

>>4278196
corvus from heretic

>John Carmack in DoomRL only makes former human sounds
>mod them into Icon of Sin sounds

I dunno, it just seems fitting since he's the game's FINAL EVIL true final boss.

>>4278212
That's Romero.

How does something like DOOM (or its source port) actually draw?

I looked inside the source code of some old dos games, and some modern ports, and I saw render calls, but I wasn't able to make sense of where they went. With the modern ports (like chocolate doom) I thought it would be easier to search for one of the commands that has SDL blit or render something and I couldnt find anything there either.

I want to be able to make a simple engine where I can easily swap out the libraries without it affecting the overall game. It's for learning/hobby.

>>4277354
>>4277734
its inspired by e4m1 and e4m2
sorry you didn't like them

>>4277747
werent me

>>4278046
could you lower your resolution when you photoshop?

>>4278046
Why not use something like Aseprite?

https://youtu.be/dLWEjvTgOOQ

>>4278273
He could and it would probably be better if he's doing sprites.

>>4278259
Indeed

can anyone reccomend me some good doom weapon wads?

I can't get beautiful doom to run. Any advice anons?

Also any mechwarrior/battletech wads?

>>4278259
I THINK this is related to what you're asking.
https://youtu.be/QhmvIykT_8g

>>4278379
have you tried any yet?

>>4278491
I tried trial blazers and another generic doom weapon mod both pretty good i just looking for some more like it

>>4278259
This article goes into detail on the render process: http://fabiensanglard.net/doomIphone/doomClassicRenderer.php
tl;dr Doom is super freaking optimized

The author has recently released a book "Game Engines Black Book" that literally walks through the Wolfenstein 3D code and explains everything in detail with diagrams. He's doing Doom next.

>>4278516
There's the other Pillowblaster stuff, Pillowblaster being the guy who made Trailblazer... stuff like Russian Overkill, Guncaster... turns out I'm retarded because I can't think of any of his other stuff, but I know he has more
There's Demonsteele if you're into anime, or even if you aren't, maybe just into Devil May Cry
High Noon Drifter if you like spaghetti... westerns
Lithium if you're into sci-fi bountyhunting or some Shadowrun stuff
Bullet Eye if you enjoy stuff like SNES era shooties
Nazis! if you want to live your Wolfenstein fantasies out in Doom
most of that stuff is arguably on the same level as trailblazer, try stuff out at your discretion

>>4278525
thanks anon

there we go, I'm really pleased with this.

>>4278520
>The author has recently released a book "Game Engines Black Book" that literally walks through the Wolfenstein 3D code and explains everything in detail with diagrams

Fuck I need to look at that.

Wasn't there a weapon pack for JCPC in the works? Was the Ancient Aliens one ever released?

What're the differences between D4D, D4T/Death Foretold, Argent and Zion?
Which one would you recommend for someone who has never played Doom 4?

>>4278527
single frame skeleton

you should just have a graphic of a closeup revenant about to punch and a very short clip of his scream when you cheat

>>4278389
>any mechwarrior/battletech wads?
Is there ever:

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=38339

>>4278535
D4T is a fork of D4D that originally ran on Zandybam
Argent and Zion are their respective author's takes on Doom 4 weaponry

I haven't played D4D in a good while so I don't know how bloated or not it is now

>>4278535
> d4d
major cooke's original forey into making a D4 mod

> d4t
above eventually started to suffer from feature bloat, so dbthanatos made a more streamlined zandybam compatible branch and got some new sprites
> argent
xaser's take on it, decidedly lite and not quite 1:1
> zion
can only stake claim to being technically the first D4 mod, having the first version out before the game, using screencap rips for sprites and attempting to mimic what nobody had verifiable info on

is it saturday yet in yankee land?

>>4278535

I only tried D4D & D4T, so I can only say I found D4D to be a clusterfuck and failed to evoke the feel of doom 4 (despite being the most faithful) while D4T is one of my favorite gameplay mods ever. It doesnt get too complex with all the mods shit, the gun action flows beautifully, it didnt break too many of the mapsets I played with it... It's just fun.

>>4278535
>never played Doom 4
why though?

>>4278603
been for at least four hours m9

>>4278534
It's all one mod it's also going to include a BTSX weapon pack and according to the authors blog it's nearing completion and will be released around the time of the new DRLA update

>>4278610
Old PC, can't handle it.

i want to play some blood

is that an ok thing to do?

>>4278639
just don't tell anyone if you play it in anything other than dosbox and you'll be fine

>>4278645
why is there something inherently wrong with GDXblood?

>>4278649
there's at least one guy who goes apeshit over it because java

don't think he shows up in these threads though so it's probably fine

>>4278656
java is fine if you disable it in your browser and dont run random ass jars

>>4278527
are they all meant to be blue? fair enough if so but you're known for mixing this stuff up so i just thought i'd ask

>>4278273
Tried that, doesn't help. Also for some reason the cursor sometimes morphs into three blurry ones, that's annoying as fuck.
Worse is that this laptop has some fucking weird yellow tint to the screen that doesn't help with spriting.

>>4278278
Not familiar with that program, can it select pixels specifically with a rectangular marker? Does it have filters and color options? Layers and transparencies?

>>4278662
In this case, yes. A lot of Blaz's items and upgrades are based around his sword, and all of that mana is blue. So I wanted to keep around the blue color scheme

TIME FOR

!! SCREENSHOT SATURDAY !!

BRIGHT AND EARLY THIS WEEK FOLKS
WAKEY WAKEY RISE AND SHINE

POST PICS OF YOUR MAPS TEXTURES CODE SPRITES EDITS HACKS GLITCHES
ANYTHING COOL YOU MADE RECENTLY

>>4278675
finally done with the cave looking section

>>4276198
What's your dream Doom WAD?

I want a full and accurate adaptation of the Doom novels separated into 4 episodes, one for each novel.

>>4278714
The design of that suit on the bottom left is so fucking cool.

>>4278714
I just realized Doom 2's art is infighting between a cyberdemon and a shotgun zombie, not the Doom Marine.

>>4278714
giant E1-style techbase with dozens of secrets, eventually after collecting keys warps you to some Elsewhere to fetch an artefact, clear that out, come back, mass invasion while you were gone, clear that, escape on a shuttlecraft or some such after setting the self-destruct blahblah. 5000 monsters total but no huge slaughters, 10 hour par time, triple deus vult sized entire mission in a single map. boom-compatible, strongly limit removing.

>>4278714
You now that TF2 map, that is like giant moving trains, with bases in them?
Something like that for Doom, but in Mars and the moving vehicle has a UAC base with stuff in it.
Then for the fun of it, add teleporters that lead to other giant base vehicles, like a ship on earth's sea or a space ship in outer space, i dunno.
Maybe those two other vehicles should be their own maps.

>>4278746
Fuck, they're not actual trains, because they don't run on tracks.

>>4278675
>filename

>>4278746
Strange Aeons had a level like that, on a giant threaded fortress moving across an endless desert.
Also that map was ripped wholesale from UT2004.

>>4278748
translucency/10
brushed metal/10
looks like a smartphone interface/10

>>4278714
>each map has a secret exit that takes to a way harder version next map
>a big warning sign before each exit like that
>the whole sector layout changes
>monster and item placement differs
>the shortcut that was in map04a is blocked or made harder to pass through in map04b
>you can still see similarities between each pair of maps

>>4278749
It was directly inspired by UT2004 but was reworked as a symmetricap capture the flag map, instead of the original AS-Convoy which was Assault (attack vs/ defend control points).

>>4278714
As someone who kind of likes the books (to a point), that seems like it'd be tricky at best.

First you'd end up rethreading a bunch of original maps and locations inbetween some new content, and then by the point you get past Doom 2, and shit gets weird, you'd get shit so weird they might not work very well or be easy to do even in GZDoom.

And then at the end you'd rethread Doom 1 again, before the real ending.

>>4278754
> ammo pickup
> bullet puff replacement
> blood decal
i recognize this gameplay mod

>>4278748
looks too sharp for doom, compare the shotgun to the text and the middle bottom of the visor

>>4277201
>>4277764
I did it for him. Was a bitch to do his helmet but I think I did alright considering what I had to work with, though I welcome anyone more skilled with Photoshop to make improvements.

>>4278746
Better yet, instead of a ship on the sea, it's a big submarine underwater, that gets flooded and the space ship has glass tubes connected to other parts and areas, where you need the radiation suit to go outside or something.

>>4278765
Also, here's another version where I replaced the chainsaw with the nuDoom one, as I wasn't happy with the outcome on the original image.

>>4278774
...aaaand finally a quick wallpaper conversion.

>>4276198
What's the best way to play Doom 64? Should I just booting up an N64 emu?

>>4278784
Doom 64 EX
All you need is an N64 rom of the original D64, then run it through the little converter program bundled with Doom 64 EX, and hey presto: PC native Doom 64.

>>4278714
Tom Hall's Doom Bible in finished wad form

>>4278795
that would be cool if it was continuous and didn't have any cinematic cutscene bollocks.

>>4278792
Thank you!

>>4278798
The cutscenes would also have to be there.

>>4278115

Doom Builder 2.

I suppose the logical thing to do would be to adjust the angle of one so it matches visually, even if it's numerically different, but it's weird that this happens at all.

>>4278714
>predator headed mancubus with lamprey arms spriteset
fund it

Are we gonna do a Halloween themed was soon?

Are we gonna do a Halloween themed wad soon?

>>4278714
I own these. They're corny "extended universe" style shit but they're pretty good action adventure sci-fi novels overall.

Always wondered though, is the cover art for the third and fourth books made by the same guy who did the Doom 1/Doom 2 covers (and thus the first and second book covers)? It looks like it fits in perfectly.

>>4278912
no. in fact the original paintings for the third and fourth books were put up on ebay maybe half a year ago. I allllmost bought them but I simply couldn't justify such a dumb expense

Can we talk about DOOM 2016 here?

Anything good come out of Snapmap? I got a PS4 copy from a friend and I'm blasting through the campaign right now.

>>4279023
>2016
>PS4
How are either of these things retro?

>>4279023
>Discuss
No.
>Snapmap
No. It's really limited and there's only been some demo tier stuff.

>>4278390
>>4278520
those are good to look at, do they also explain how the actual pixel itself is blitted to the screen?

>>4279023

Great game, but not the place. /vg/ almost certainly will have a thread for it.

>>4279032
stream the frame buffer into a texture, then give that to the gpu

https://wiki.libsdl.org/MigrationGuide#If_your_game_just_wants_to_get_fully-rendered_frames_to_the_screen

>>4278774
>>4278781
I like these a lot. cheers anon

>>4278714
do these come as nice audio books?

I don't like Ancient Aliens. The aesthetic really puts me off, it's fucking gross. Gonna pass on this poop.

>>4279103
blasphemy how dare you have an opinion you piece of shit

Any custom quake maps that use the zero gravity effect like in ziggurat vertigo? I love that shit.

>>4277702

it's a 3d slope?

>>4279103
You need drink few gallons bleach, shit guzzler.

>>4278748

too much definition

so why cant i switch weapons the right way in doom enhanced? sand how the fuck do i do it?

(right way meaning with number keys)

>>4278995
Damn, really? I've never seen fullsized versions of them that aren't just scans/photos of the book covers.

Hey Terminus, did the unchangable doomguy mug sprite bug ever get fixed with the newer versions of gzdoom? This would actually open up a world of possibilities if I could get it working without having to morph player. Besides my own projects, I could do a doomguy mug spriteset where he's wearing the night vision goggles or the hazmat helmet and actually have them work with said items.

>>4278675
>>4276201

I still can't see shit without my glasses.

>>4278896
>>4278714
seconding this.
just drop the bit about them not being demons though

>>4279146
are you sure you don't have them on your head

>>4279142
Mugshots are fully scriptable now. I think you can make as many custom states for it as you wish.

>>4279149
They're broken on the right arm, misisng the left lense, and broken on the bridge.

They're not, son.

>>4279153
wow did you get into a fight with your fursona or something?

>>4279121
good post

>>4279150
scriptable with editing SBARINFO like I had originally tried or do I have to make a full on ACS script to pull it off?

>>4278675
Working on a thing for my mod rn.

>>4279160
None of that. You use ZScript which has completely replaced both SBARINFO and DECORATE plus all ACS that isn't map-dependent. It's absolutely wonderful.

>>4279160
(the things ZScript replaces are of course still there in the engine, but they're deprecated and won't see further development is what I mean)

>>4279114

Here's the problem I'm having. Two sets of computer consoles on opposite sides of a room. Same length, same height, same slopes for both the floor and ceiling. Yet, as you can see, they don't match. They were created using "set floor slope" and "set ceiling slope" things in a UDMF map.

I have no god damn idea what the problem is.

>>4279180
Can you upload the map somewhere so we could take a better look?

What's the command to see the framerate in PRBoom+? MSI Afterburner doesn't seem to detect it.

>>4279180
flat alignment? are both console sectors offset the same from the standard 64x64 floor grid?

>>4278781
>>4278774
>>4278765

Fuckin' rad, mate.

>>4279191

They are, just in opposite directions. For a laugh, I decided to shift the west one east by 16 mu, and NOW they're identical. which STILL doesn't make any fucking sense, and throws off the sizing of the rooms I'm trying to do.

>>4279103
I like the aesthetic but find the gameplay tedious.

>>4279203
>They were created using "set floor slope" and "set ceiling slope"
I'd personally much prefer using Alt-V and dragging the vertex handles myself. Saves on having to mess with Things and Line Specials.

>>4279214

You're going to have to be clearer on how that works, because alt-v just activates the view dropdown menu for me.

>>4279217
Oh, I may have been mistaken. It V and some other key in 3D view mode. It's active when you see little pyramids on all vertices.

>>4279220

And that's a Doom Builder function? Not a GZDoom Builder one?

Man this is fucking lame. I had to drop ZDoom resolution to 1366x768 to stay over 60fps on this level on Sunlust.

http://webm.land/w/rmRt/

I tried PRBoom Plus because I heard that it gets better performance than ZDoom but I had even worse framerate on that level.

Any advice for better performance? Lame I still apparently can't play at 1080p + 60fps minimum at all times on modern megawads. I don't wanna go back to 1366x768.

>>4279185
IDRATE?
can't remember what that shows exactly

>>4278727

>>4279230
GZDoom Builder.

>>4278795
This is an awesome fucking idea.

>>4279154
You made me laugh you asshole.

>>4279231
>PRBoom+
Does it us a GL renderer? Because you'll probably want that.

>>4279231
*Also does GZDoom get better performance than ZDoom? Should I try using something other than OpenGL for ZDoom or something? What can help?

>>4279253
Yeah it's set to OpenGL. Apart from that it has stuff like 8bit, 16bit, 32bit renderers.

>>4278727
if it's a hideous destructor shotgunguy I know who to bet on

>>4278765
Oh shit Thanks dude! I didnt think anyone would really do it. Cheers anon

>>4278727
That's actually just doomguy without the helmet. You can see that same hairstyle after beating TFC.

>>4279264
Then try GZDoom just to see what happens (setting all graphics settings to low values). Or buy a new pc.

Well, I completed 300mins on my very first attempt at pistol starting through a wad on UV.
Very nice work guys, the difficulty and quality was all over the place but I had a lot of fun running through it, and have a new found appreciation for pistol starting maps.
Favourite maps:
>Moonlit Harbor
I'm a sucker for stuff like the exploding hallway, plus the map was just all out fun from the start
>Blue Sanctuary
Lovely music and map design, would play again
>Crash Site
Tells a story of sorts and I love the momentary teleport into Hell section
>Toomb
Atmospheric as fuck, I still can't believe this was made in five hours. The Arch-Vile trap was nasty, but the rocket launcher helps.
>the first half of The Punch Dimension
The part where you get a gun is where the map fall apart, in my opinion. Otherwise running through bezerk punching everything is so much fun.
Honourable mention to Pergatori for both being fun and for the map being shaped like a succubus. That's really cool. Curse of the Donuts was also impressive with the water lowering effect. I didn't even know vanilla Doom could do that.
>least favourite maps:
>Conception
Far too much health and ammo considering the low ranked enemies and small number of them. Also too dark
>Choose Your Path
Just because you can't 100% it currently, I hear there's a fix coming though
>Perfect Hatemail
It's just too damn hard and I ended up save scumming something fierce, I didn't have to do that in any other map. Loved that secret where you telefrag all those irritating Revenants one by one though, very satisfying stuff.

Anyway, I enjoyed this. Maybe next time I'll try and make something.

>>4279231
>>4279297
Okay so I switched to GZDoom and with OpenGL Accelerated renderer I get flawless 200FPS on that level like I should be getting (and at all times). problem is it looks like shit, I don't like the filtered look. Can I make this look like ZDoom? I tried out the Software renderer in GZDoom and I get bad framerate again.

>>4279313
Set filter mode to "none" or preferably none (linear mipmap) rather than the default barf-inducing Trilinear.

None and None(linear mipmap) look more or less the same, except the latter reduces noise and artifacts in high resolutions and for walls/ceilings etc at high angles.

>>4278664
It's been a while since I've played around with it myself, but it is a program specifically designed for making sprites as well as pixel art so you can select pixels specifically. Can't remember about filters, as for color options you do have some there like you can create/import color palettes like if you wanted to work with just the Doom palette and you can indeed do transparency as well as layers, the software even has the ability to do animations within it too.

There's a trial version you can get (can't save files), you could also freely compile the program yourself if you really want.

Here's also the Doom palette I have and a fellow by the name of spritenoob also used this program which I think is where I got my Doom palette. Can't remember exactly.

>>4279326
Nice, thanks dude.

vavoom lives. apparently.
https://github.com/janisl/vavoom

How do I make certain sprites non-transparent in GZDoom?

There was an option for Lost Souls and I made them non-transparent, but I can't find the option for certain fireballs, for example the fireballs that Mancubus shoots. The transparency is annoying.

>>4279248

That's a problem. I tried to run GZDoom Builder, but my antivirus software shit itself upon seeing it and deleted half the files. This isn't the first time either. It recently decided Soul Reaver was a threat, and repeated deletes the exe even when I tell it not to.

As much as I'd like to use them, I'm starting to think slopes aren't worth the trouble.

Finally finished MetaDoom + D2INO
What a ride that was.

>>4279164
>>4279165
Do we have any good example mods out yet that I can read over the code? I seem to learn best by example. My C/C++ skills are pretty bare bones.

Anybody ever play this? I just found out it even existed.

>>4279330
>program
Aseperite I think it. I use it for all my spritework now.

>>4279398
Have you tried both installed and portable versions? Also, use GZDoomBuilder-BugFix, it's the only one that gets updates now.

>>4279410
Try looking up the standard doom monster/weapon/function definitions in gzdoom.pk3 (the zscript folder), and read the zdoom wiki zscript entries. The basic stuff like guns and monsters isn't in any way harder than decorate, but huds and menus (yeah goodbye menudefs, they're scriptable now) are a bit more complex. Learn one thing at a time.

>>4279413
Yeah I played the demo on my ps1. Decent graphics, but very poor level design.

>>4279269
No problem my pedigree chum

>>4279389

You're looking for RenderStyle and Alpha.

>>4279165
>>4279164
does zscript have all the acs features and c-lite stuff?

>>4279443
>all the acs features
It doesn't have quite the same level of sector control. You know, lifts, doors, light switch scripts and such. For those things ACS is still more convenient.

>c-lite stuff
It has that, but at an infinitely higher level than ACS. Zscript exposes some of the actual internal code of the engine to user mods. You can make custom pointers (which do not even have to be actors), you can make custom action functions on your own and all sorts of things. Weapons and everything else can have variables of their own that actually stay with them if dropped, so never ever again will you have to mess with dummy inventory tokens. You can run action functions on any pointer by prefixing it like such: Target.A_Explode(...);. It's fully object oriented and the sky is pretty much the limit.

So say goodbye to CallACS arguments too.

>>4279451
This sounds really awesome.
Should I still do stuff in dec/acs if zandybam compat is an issue, or will zand be getting this soonish?

>>4278197
Anyone?

>>4276464
Looks nice though, and now you can save it as a GZDB template

>>4276694
Doom is serious business

>>4279454
Zandro lags behind, but by way of rumor I think they've been working on a really huge update. I'd just not worry about netplay in the meantime. Unless you're making a pure MP mod.

>>4279480
On the note of multiplayer, had anyone heard anything new about GZDoom netcode that was supposed to be in the process of being rewritten to have server-client capabilities?

>>4279463

No other way about it, just scale 0.62 on everything.

>>4278197
make a base class with scale 0.62?

woah

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/97055-%D7%93%D7%95%D7%9D-%D7%A9%D7%9C-%D7%9E%D7%A7%D7%A1/

>>4276198
Which is the best FPS engine ever? Doesn't have to be just out of the ones in pic related.

>>4279552
>best
no such thing
depends what criteria you're judging on
suspect argument bait question unless proven otherwise

>>4279552
>ever

Impossible to determine because "ever" isn't done yet. The best one might come out tomorrow.
Stupid question with no answer.

>>4279552
What >>4279568 said.

doom is in a sweet spot of being sufficiently advanced to be able to produce a believable 3d environment but still simple enough to be very easy to modify and extend and make new content for it. build and quake are both more advanced technically, allowing floor stacking and true 3d, but are correspondingly harder to mod for.a so it really depends on what you mean by "best".

>>4279550
>hi say your name

>>4279550
man i hate nondescriptive urls where you can't tell what they're about from the link. including every youtube ever of course

>>4279552
quake

>>4278784
>Should I just booting up an N64 emu?

I would.

>>4279550
Was he high on drugs or what?

>>4279550
>no-one posted this there

>>4279550
>that reply from negrostrike
Fucking lol

I'm having some framerate issues with the newest version of GZDoom. What are some settings that I could change to get it to run better? ZDoom and older versions of GZDoom ran fine, it's just this newest version that is running badly. It's never consistent either, the beginning of levels tend to be fine, but the more I explore the level the worse the framerate gets. It also gets bad whenever I alt-tab or at the end of a level when the screen starts melting and the results screen shows up. Anyone know what settings I could change to get the game to run better?

>>4279654
Is your ram usage going up by any chance? Could be a memory leak.

>>4279586

and with gzdoom in its current state, you're talking about a literal sandbox with the exception of very few primary limitations (i.e. the way maps are built from a top-down 2D design, hence actors are the only things that actually move on a true 3D space)

>>4276201
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/97126-the-newstuff-chronicles-538/

Newstuff 538 featuring Fanta Base by /vr/'s own Hebridean Isle

>>4279705
also featuring what appears to be sarais's mapping twin, except he seems to be able to stick to the grid at least

>>4279659
I don't think so, it's the around the same as old GZDoom and Zdoom. If it were a memory leak, how would I fix that?

>>4279695
What makes software rendering mode have such distinctive dithering?

>>4279708
If you hadn't told me that wasn't a S'arais map, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

Is there a way to scale console text in Q3? I'm fiddling with 16:9 resolutions and the text is miniscule.

>>4279298
>The part where you get a gun is where the map fall apart, in my opinion.
I'm actually wanting to make a modified version of the map balanced for pure punching goodness. Perhaps not for 300, but just a little thing for you guys to try.

>>4276198
JUST MADE THIS WALLPAPER

RANDOMLY SHARING THIS WALLPAPER SINCE IT'S THE ONLY REDNECK RAMPAGE WALLPAPER I'VE EVER FOUND

>>4279807
Bless late 90's/early 2000's "official" wallpapers that were so cluttered and messy you couldn't even find your icons half the time.

>>4279708
>except he seems to be able to stick to the grid at least
Fuck off

>>4279837
stung, huh?

>>4279849
>Grid sizes other than 32 don't exist
Fuck off

>>4279854
yup, stung

>>4279868
Typical child.

>>4279795
>shades of brown

>>4279837
>>4279854
>>4279869
what

>>4279879
It's the funniest Quake may-may.

>>4279747
There is absolutely nothing wrong with those textures

>>4279708
>that shell box
oh god, it's that awful HD respriting project that was based off of real life pictures isn't it

>>4279879
I'm always on duty

Anybody wanna coop Doom 2 or something? I've never played online Doom coop before how do we do that? Can I go online somewhere and just coop Doom 2 with someone right now on GZDoom?

>>4279956
Just uze ZanZ&

>>4276550
doomguy because he's canonically an unstoppable force of rage

>>4279982
Just drop a bigass rock on him and hope it holds until you die of natural causes.

>>4279884
it's not that the palette has escessive amounts of brown
it's that most of the levels are textured with lots of brown colors

>>4279991
You just wait while I go cherry pick a screenshot of a small portion of a particular level while ignoring the thousands of other pics that prove me wrong to blow you the fuck out.

>>4279991
brown will always look better than doom's garbage crayola colors

>>4280010
stay mad

>>4280015

they fall for it every time

>>4280010
the early levels used some very garish browns and greens. it was of course a stylistic choice. the game still has plenty colors, it's just that they chose it to be a moodier game than doom, so the gritty look obviously comes with it.

>15 maps so far for HUMP

Its all looking very good my friends. Some great stuff in there.
Expect an alpha build in the next few days.

Is there a correct way to make or save "Graphic (Raw Screen)" files for doom/heretic?
I have pic related, its a .png and runs fine on zdoom, but shows up as garbled colors in crispy heretic. Do I need a specific program to create the raw image files? or can I save in some kind of 8 bit format?

RANDOM DUKE NUKEM 3D WALLPAPER DUMP

>>4280130
>duke_loses_console_of_his_infinite_ammo_guns_and_accidentally_causes_the_apocalypse_by_burying_everything_in_casings.jpg
>OH SHIT GUYS FUCK SORRY FUCK GOD DAMMIT I CAN'T STOP FIRING GOD DAMMIT SHIT SORRY GUYS FUCK SORRY SORRY
>I CAN'T EVEN MOVE NOW IT'S GOT MY LEGS TRAPPED JESUS CHRIST SOMEONE HELP

SYSTEM SHOCK 2 WALLPAPER

The best thing about D44M's Swich port is Bethesda officially admitting that that the throwback boxart is superior to that generic garbage they slapped onto the original release.

>>4277190
ECWolf, definitely. It has an automap which is going to save you a LOT of frustration.

>>4280130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEbjkKVDydo

So prboom-plus won't load wads when I direct it to them with -iwad ~/Games/wads/doom.wad for example. Anyone familiar enough with it to help me out here? I don't want to have to move my wads to a different folder

>>4280205
Unused promoart is worth mentioning.

>>4280246

>>4280132
what has this site done to me.

>>4280247

>>4280250

>>4280151
my fucking god please don't tell me their eyes are actually supposed to look like that

>>4279687
Solid 3d midtex polyobjects as well.

>>4280253
>>4280250
How real are these?

>>4280205
>cuts out the imp looking back to the viewer
you were there
and then you weren't

>>4280274
Switch boxes are too lean.

>>4280273
Guy who made those deleted it.
https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1519039&page=114

>>4280286
I think they were from some artist at id. the f-90 on the helmet is a giveaway. these were all marketing placeholders.

>>4280298
if they were from some artist at id, it wouldn't use literally the third result for "demon skull" on google images

>>4280316
they mentioned that too, I recall that. the skull was by some other artist. the doom logo went through several iterations though so I'm guessing that's what they were experimenting with on these.

>>4280270
>Solid 3d midtex polyobjects as well.

sadly, not really.. for instance, should you make a composite polyobj train and you want it to move (or not move, it doesn't matter either way), it'll require you to create a dummy/debug sector (or several, if you want to for whatever reason, divide it into segments) and for this reason, is to use portals. portals unfortunately - aren't 3D. though this does ring the bell of 3D floors which i happened to accidentally omit before and those are rendered in a true-3D-esque space, too

> "AXES TAKE SKILL"
- some nerd

>>4280354
They will move on the X/Y axis and work like a platform you can stand on, but will lack floor and ceiling textures.

>>4280363
Axes as in plural woodcutting instruments or axes as in x/y/z?

>>4280367
chop chop kind

>>4280365
not if you do a certain work around though; i have a colleague who already created a test level on a project with a train composed of polyobjects, some acs (to move the polyobjs), and interactive portals (so the player can step inside while it moves). and as desired, there are textures on the "planes" as well

>>4279695
makin an unreal map?

>>4280380
Hah, that's neat.

Is there a more pointless mod then this?

>>4280432
Why even bring it up? Both these bandwagon groups are getting a little old.

> a single ranger gets 1800+ more frags than the rest of the 6 players combined

>>4280386
Its 1995 Unreal tech demo.

>>4280243
can you post the whole command line you're trying to use? i suspect something like
prboom-plus -iwad ~/games/doom.wad dtwid.wad
when you need to do either
prboom-plus dtwid.wad -iwad ~/games/doom.wad
or
prboom-plus -iwad ~/games/doom.wad -file sunlust.wad
the point being you have to put all the "loose" filenames before the switches, or use the -file switch explicitly

>>4280554
>sunlust
uhh i meant dtwid. why would you be loading a doom2 pwad with doom.wad. sorry.

>>4280205
This caco in the back looks terrified

So is Project Brutality basically the epitome of the Doom experience?