/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

300 MINUTES OF /vr/
-Project completed!
-https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/97033-300-minutes-of-vr-speedmap-megawad/

QUMP
-Soon?
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp_ZqCZPJKk

HUMP
-Project ends on the 24th of September
-All rules found here
-https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=57649&p=1014985#p1014985

OP
-Looking to update the OP, suggestions are welcome
-Include thevidya.site and The Inmost Dens somewhere?

=== NEWS ===

[9-20] Evolution of the WAD E9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-NXPbHTQYo

[9-18] Sun Damage Omen, gameplay mod alpha release
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=57902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4PpeIyJ3t0

[9-17] 300 Minutes of /vr/ released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/97033-300-minutes-of-vr-speedmap-megawad/

[9-17] Crispy Doom v4.2 released
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1797904

[9-13] The Ultimate Torment & Torture: Supportive Edition; a mod friendly edit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENm-hx9aiZ4

[9-11] Doom Builder X: continuation of DB2 by anotak
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/96943-doom-builder-x-2130-map-editor-forked-from-db2/

[9-11] PortaDOOM Cacowards 2016 released
https://spideroak.com/browse/share/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases/

[9-10] A new Touhou Doom mod
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=57817

[9-10] The Inmost Dens, a sideblog of new mod releases for Doom and other retro FPS
https://inmost-dens.tumblr.com/
http://terminusest13.tumblr.com/post/165135258746/the-inmost-dens

[9-8] Golden Souls creator working on a Castlevania TC, Simon's Destiny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvzan3IQoac

[9-7] Zeromaster successfully completes a pacifist run of MAP02 Underhalls
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/96901-pa02-2057-underhalls-done-pacifist/

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>>4271589
If I remember right it replaces bosses

first for
>fuck soundfonts

>>4271576
Didn't DRLA had that for years?

>>4271592
>>4271576
What's next?
Terror Elemental?
Which can spawn Agony and Pain elementals?
And 10xLost Souls at a time

>>4271592
>>4271601
To be fair, I've always tough that there should be multiple types of "elementals'. It just seems like there would be just not that jesus christ.

>>4271603
If there are Lost Souls, where are Found Souls? Ah?

>>4271576
that doesn't sound very elemental.
elements aren't composed from smaller elements, that's why they're elements.
i suppose one could say the same about the original, though. but "pain compound" doesn't have the same ring to it.

>>4271586
that's beautiful
if the proposed /vr/ halloween wad happens, i would like to use this as a wall texture in a secret area

>>4271612
Talking about Quake, I really don't enjoy it that much.

Anyone else think that it could of done with better music? And maybe having made melee a more viable option?

>>4271476
>map16 of valiant
thank you kindly.

>>4271621
I fucking love it, not enough games convey the true power of atom because they're all worried about gay shit like "balance"

>>4271615
>Talking about Quake, I really don't enjoy it that much.
That's just your opinion, and that's perfectly okay.

>And maybe having made melee a more viable option?
The axe is shit, everyone knows that, but it's not like id ever made particularly good starting melee weapons. Some mods change or enhance it, like Arcane Dimensions and its Shadow Axe that does triple damage and can gib enemies both living and dead (letting you gib zombies and save your explosive weapons for other targets).

It's also less shit than you think, you can kill stuff up to Ogres with it pretty reliably if you can dance the dance, it just takes a while.

>Anyone else think that it could of done with better music?
Now that's just fuckin' heresy. Quake's soundtrack and sound design in general is fantastic and fits the game perfectly, and is better than most of the actual albums Trent Reznor and NIN released. What would you suggest instead, MIDI-ized dadrock like in Doom? It just wouldn't work.

oh boy a megatriggered quakefag and the thread is only 17 posts in

>>4271645
Can we not?

>>4271642
I like the like 2 songs that are in the game, but I find the lack of actual music during the levels to actually make me get lost more easily.
I get they were going for atmosphere, but I just find it dull desu

POSTING A RANDOM WALLPAPER

>>4271624
if game isn't balanced, it's a shit game

but again, im talking about games, not "games"

>>4271649
We can not

>>4271682
>but again, im talking about games, not "games"
you seem to be a retard.

>>4271685
--->>>>/v/

>>4271614
ROTT?

well, this is awkward.

>>4271682
Even the most retarded things can be balanced out if designed properly. Reminder that Doom 1 final boss is a semi-regular enemy on Doom 2.

>>4271691
how?

>>4271687
take your own advice, moron. what does
>im talking about games, not "games"
even mean?

>>4271708
i guess hideous destructor makes it so that romero can't be telefragged. i had to noclip into the room and drop a grenade to exit the level. ended up losing all my grenades as a result, so even if the death exit didn't function correctly, i still lost something.

>>4271714
>what does X even mean
you could have started with that, instead of letting the angry caveman inside of you go angry at things he can't understand.

>>4271615
Quake took "more horror" approach than Doom.
Think of Doom as a cheesy upbeeat action/horror flick akin to Evil Dead 2, wehre rock/metal does not seem out of place,
while Quake is more grim, somber and disturbing and the ambient soundtrack of whisppering sound, distant cries fits in just right

>>4271725
Not him, but phrase only makes sense if provided with context. And since no context was provided it looked more like you talking to yourself about things only you understand then getting angry when people told you to get off your high horse.

What's your favorite gun, /vr/? I always found the plasma rifle to be the most well rounded

>>4271734
I quite like the Chaingun, if anything because it's similar to the plasma rifle but I get to use it more often.

>>4271729
where did i get angry?
i make a calm statement about my opinion on importance of game balance and how good games aim to be balanced, while random "games" ( notice the quotation marks ) can or will neglect it due to their nature of not being real games, but rather something else, i.e. a tech demo, an addictive skinnerbox, a joke, a tool of empowerment, etc.

and the other person replies with "morron" and "retard" because apparently he doesn't know about meaning of quotation marks around a single word.

>>4271690
it's clearly Blood

WHAT'S THE BEST FPS WAIFU?

>>4271767

>>4271767

>>4271767

>>4271767
.

>>4271772
Are they using the boots from Portal?

>>4271767
,

>>4271774
Yes.

>>4271776
The plot thiccens

>>4271767

Anyone knows where to find the original picture from this poster?

https://www.etsy.com/listing/546375807/nintendo-doom-framed-poster-review-retro

I'd rather print it somewhere else for cheap rather than buy it online.

>>4271594

>I hate my wallet with a burning passion

On the the hand, that's the closest one can get from the actual sound, so big props to you.

>>4271834
>Nintendo Doom Framed Poster Review, Retro Advert Frame, Gaming Gamer Unique Gift, Kids Room Man Cave A4, Wall Art Groom For Him Christmas

holy fuck the name

>>4271837

I found it while looking for Doom posters on Google, so I believe that means the random words worked.

>>4271836
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:c4fc9224443d0582979ad28802d7fcf355ad43c8&dn=Roland.VS.SOUND.Canvas.VA.v1.1.0.READ.NFO-R2R&tr=http%3a%2f%2fbt.t-ru.org%2fann%3fmagnet

This wad will be the death of me, I swear

>>4271594
Can you actually use this with any doom engines?

>>4271621

>>4271860
stardate 20x6?

>>4271885
yup, I'm too much of a casual for this wad, it seems

>>4271889
what skill level are you playing it on? iirc the text file says HMP is intended and UV is for masochists

>>4271867
i suppose so
it works with everything that works with midi devices on windows.
in case of gzdoom it just appears alongside fluidsynth, timidity, etc in the selector.

>>4271907
UV. Checked the text file - it says that it was balanced around UV but HMP was also implemented. I just have this autistic need to play on UV, anything less feels wrong, have to work on it and try out HMP, I guess.

>>4271845

thanks, I only had 1 tb of dolphin porn

>>4271690

wtf anon

is 300manager here?..

>>4271964
yeah

>>4271621
That would be badass for a player death, Exploding like a predator

>>4271967

are you gonna update the wad?, can I replace in your ass with the early version?, I feel is too easy now

>>4271995
not him but i am going to update the wad.

id software c. 1992

>>4271995
RjY's the one who's doing the fixes. Once he posts the fixed wad I'll update the doomworld thread.

>>4271615
could of

>>4272018
just to keep you and everyone else in the loop, this is where i am at the moment

=====
FIXES
=====

map01: speed up monster teleporter (without desyncing 3m01p037, of course)

map03: fix non-reusable lifts to get out of slime pools

map05: fix non-reusable lift in air duct after yellow key [rowsol]
map05: add locked door indicators [te13]

map06: add lift out of slime pool by exit door [te13]

map08: fix texture alignment on scenery [te13]
map08: speed up main lift

map13: realign textures around the hidden passage behind the mancubus

map15: add a second trigger for the perpetual lift [da_werecat]

map16: add teleporter for those who back out from the crusher [leodoom85, lirui1001, anonymous]

map17: remove transparenct from cage bars [te13]
map17: fix lowering bars by archvile trap that went too far, exposing missing textures [te13]
map17: make crusher switch repeatable [da_werecat]

D_RUNNIN: add replacement suggested by memfis

====
TODO
====

map10: TODO: merge 300manager's start area detail reduction with my fixes
map29: restore original difficulty, by author request

>>4272018
>>4272001

well, here it if if you are going to update it

https://www.anonfiles.cc/file/9062e6b9c2dacc5e605e3757fe6a44f5

mega seems broken at the moment, strange

>>4272059
thanks, got it.

>Saturday Night Codeine's ending
Oh, Term!

>>4272047

also, I have a friend that says there is a bug in map03, I don't know if is that bug checked there, I asked him to record a demo but is working right now

>>4272047
If you can also fix the txt file so that when I upload the updated version to /idgames the credits appear correctly and my email address isn't removed, I would be very grateful. Not quite sure why they decided to take out my email.

is there anything similar to pirate doom out there? recently played that for the first time and was very impressed with it.

>>4272156
>Not quite sure why they decided to take out my email.
this is apparently something they do, unless you tell them not to.

http://www.gamers.org/pub/idgames/README.INCOMING
Once your upload is verified, we will remove the email addresses from
your text file before publishing your upload. If you wish to leave them
in the text file, let us know when you respond to us and they will be
left in.

i think the reason this started is this guy named Carlos, who did a source port named cdoom.

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/CDoom

it turns out he is a religious nuts who really hates doomworld and idgames for some trivial reason. he harvests email addresses from uploads, and signs them up to hundreds of christian spam mailing lists.

https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1739850
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1761306

>>4272234
At least it's nice to see hardcore Christians understanding that Doom isn't Satan worship? But that's just fucked.

>>4272092
>>4272047

yes, is that error, dismiss my comment

>>4272092 (You)
>>4272047

yes, is that error, ignore my comment

>>4272092
>>4272047

yes, is that error, ignore my comment

>>4271767

TIL that Ancient Aliens and High Noon Drifter are quite good together.

I haven't played ancient aliens yet. The Final Doomer weapon set for it seems cool. Is it good/finished?

>>4272323
no, one of the authors died so it's dead in the water. F

>>4268463
>>4270563
Map 19
Finally got the LG.
Only gets better.

>>4272326
He may be dead, but not his spirit.

>>4272272
all right then, thanks.

>>4272326
>>4272332
Is this a mod dev community in-joke or did someone really die?

>>4272347
You can check the zdoom thread anon
im pretty sure they are still developing stuff

>>4272332
fuck yes

>>4272347
>Is this a mod dev community in-joke
yes. everyone who hasn't released something in the last hour is dead. rip in peace.

How do I play map 33 of 300 minutes of /vr/ in gzdoom?

>>4272370
map map33

>>4272323
doomguy is basically smoothdoom with new pistol and separate bfg ammo

tntguy has overpowered chaingun replacement and its plasmarifle replacement shoots an ugly beam that floats around your weapon when you are moving, instead of coming right out of it

plutguy's rocket launcher replacement shoots awkward bouncing grenades, and its plasmarifle replacement is now a hitscan weapon that also does more damage, but is slightly slower.

id say it's worth playing for the plutguy.
doomguy is meh and tntguy is just garbage

>>4272347
>>4272352
the hard drive died, so now they are rewriting everything from scratch

>>4272347
it's a terrible and forced unfunny meme someone has been consistently pushing

>>4272374
>separate bfg ammo
WHY

Underhalls has entirely unfitting music.

>Final Doomer update is apparently actually closing in on being done
>So is the next DRLA update

i dont believe it
this can't be happening

>>4272383
because everybody loves gimmicks

it's not really ammo, but a charge system, and you get charges by picking up large ammo packs, like i.e. every 5 rocket boxes you get 1 bfg use.

>>4272373
Thanks.

>>4271907
Ribbiks hadn't started encouraging HMP with Stardate 20x6. Its not until 6 months later with Swim With The Whales that Ribbiks began giving HMP significant attention.

>>4272385
dun dun

dun dun
te te te

dun dun

dun dun
ti ti ti

>>4272386
plutguy will still be the best

>>4271718
Oh my god you're still doing it. Have fun with Fear.

>>4272374
>Doomguy is basically smoothdoom
Why do people still say this? The weapons in Finaldoomer (except for the Super Shotgun, weirdly) are more powerful than in vanilla,

>>4271718
Never played Hideous Destructor, only heard it's all around bullshit. Can you do anything resembling a speedrun with it? Thinking about giving maps 11-20+31/32 of Scythe a shot with it.

>>4272436
from what i see with SLADE, apart from the obvious pistol and bfg, the only changes are that chaingun does 3-4 times more damage and direct hit with rocketlauncher seems ( 100 projectile damage? plus standard 128 from explosion ) to do more as well

>>4272429
you mean doomguy?
they just need to make it so the SS gibs and its the most perfect vanilla guns improvement mod possible

>>4272432
map11's busting my balls at the moment, but i feel like as long as i actually use all the tools i'm given and play smartly, i should be able to overcome anything. run for it might be a real problem. berserk should provide the necessary theoretical speed, but controlling and maintaining it is another question.

>>4272463
if i wanted to play doomguy id rather just play vanilla, because superstrong fisting and pistol ruin ammo management and bfg isn't an actual weapon, making pistol start potentially broken

>>4272481
you can disable the bfg ammo

agreed it would be nice to have an option to disable the fists being stealthy and pistol ammo thing
also I always feel like some of the weapons do more damage then they should so I always reduce the damage by some using customdoom

>>4272484
i can disable bfg ammo and even edit all the stuff in slade, make fists weaker, make pistol consume ammo and whatnot, but then i would end up with a vanilla doom, so whats the point.

it is what it is, and i suppose it can be fun sometimes to relax and slay some mobs at ease with *mildly* stronger weapons but still keeping the vanilla-like aesthetics without going full brootl doom style with reloads, grenades, altfires and other trash.

>>4272448
use berserk packs, summoning talismans and the HERP/DERP robots liberally and you might be able to set some impressive times. most enemies won't let you ignore them so easily, though.

>>4272508
What you would end up then is vanilla weapons with nicer animations way better sounds and overall a better feel then vanilla and imo smooth doom.

Especially the shotgun and chaingun I find just feels really crisp in final doomer and thats after customdoom tweaks to make them do vanilla dps.

>>4272508
>>4272481
do you even like gameplay mods

i suspect it may not be for you

>>4272481
>superstrong fisting

>>4271586
Does anyone know if there's any WAD's that I can add to vanilla doom which strictly effects the death animations?

I'm looking specifically for if there's any that make each monster death unique to the weapon type used. Somethin sorta like Brutal Doom but without any of the gameplay modifications.

>>4272530
i actually prefer smooth doom ones
especially the 64 variants

>>4272586
well i liked the finaldoomer plutguy

i found it was a nice shift in balance, making plasmarifle into hitscan m60 with more damage at cost of slower fire rate and bigger recoil the longer you fire it

and the grenade launcher being kinda hard to use at times, giving less ammo from ammopacks, and having bigger splash, making it more dangerous for yourself, thus putting more emphasis on the m60, which now is the strongest weapon with all the "cell" ammo dedicated purely to it, with the bfg being more of a bonus "kill some more" button, like serious bomb in serious sam.

and the chaingun kinda taking the spot of the old plasmarifle with being a good panic weapon to stunlock and clear crowds or doing some decent single target damage comparable to ssg

i even liked the tighter spread on shotgun, making it slightly more pleasant to use in medium to long distances

>>4272595

>>4272586
he's making good points thought, just didn't mention that it also improves how the weapons look

>>4272328

>>4271981
Lithium does that, High Noon Drifter too

>>4271767
bunch of plens in this thread

>>4272398
I think it's nice to be able to use the plasma rifle freely without worrying about cutting into BFG reserves

>>4272375
If he stops pushing it, I think it's safe to assume he's died.

>>4272634
>>4272628
you're right, i do apologize

As much as I enjoy final doomer, I agree that it's a little on the redundant side to have a pistol with infinite ammo AND a powerful, flexible melee attack. There's not a snowball's chance in hell Yholl will change this but I feel like you should have either one or the other.
I do like what he's been doing with the chainsaws though, turning them into flexible utility tools instead of yet another melee weapon. Very smart, and the halderman device is one of the best things.

>>4272619
Don't think such modifications are possible with vanilla doom.

>>4271621
Much less lag than playing the map normally, nukes every enemy in one shot and kills the player? Yes, please.

>>4272286
I don't think the original Unreal gets too much attention these days. It's a shame since it's such a great game.

>>4272629
tntguy a best

>>4272694
There's smooth doom, which adds multiple death animations do enemies and unique gib animations for each enemy, but that's about it.

>>4272708
I thought Smooth Doom required GZDoom?

>>4272701
>>4272629
>>4272687

like i just can't take something like this for a serious megawad playthrough

>>4272713
I meant vanilla doom as in, regular doom without any modifications to the gameplay.

I guess then:
>Does anyone know if there's any WAD's that I can add to doom which strictly effects the death animations?

>>4272716
wow and i thought all the weapons in HD were weaker

>>4272717
yeah i hate paper sprites too

>>4272717
Okay in fairness you could kill all of those dudes if you have berserk vanilla fists.

>>4272727
paper sprites?

>>4272723
HD weapons are incredibly powerful and accurate on their first shot

Everyone is a glass cannon in HD with the exception of Archviles really
That Thunder rifle in particular obliterates practically everything if given the chance

>>4272720
smooth doom monsters only
I use it with final doomer doomguy as well as high noon drifter and it works great

>>4272730

>>4272717
custom doom it to damage 0.8x or something like that
its what i do with final doomer and most other OP weapon mods

>>4272716
HD is starting to look really really cool with recent updates
I think I might have to play it again

>>4272740
and what's the solution here? Y axis rotation to make them look like splattered shit instead?

>>4272740
Still have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

What the hell is a "paper sprite"?

A sprite is a sprite. What paper?

>>4272753

he talks about viewing the sprite from above or below, you don't see a quad, you see a line

>>4272747
the solution is, of course, to use a real renderer. also turn off freelook. stop cheating. play the game properly.
>>4272753
paper sprites are an inherent unsolvable flaw of the opengl renderer that make the monsters look like cardboard cutouts when viewed from angles only made possible by freelook cheaters.

>>4272757
Then I guess he should stop playing doom?

>>4272759
>freelook cheaters
Calm your autism boy.

>>4272759
Shut the hell up, nerd.

>>4272759

>>4272761
>I'm a cheater and proud of it
kys
>>4272762
>on a retro games board
>calls people nerds

>>4272759
hey guess what
i jump on torches to bypass level segments
i crouch to avoid projectiles
i use resurect when i die

>>4272759
>the solution is, of course, to use a real renderer. also turn off freelook. stop cheating. play the game properly.
I'm gonna shove you in a fucking locker, nerd.

>>4272759
doomworld is calling, they want their virgins back

>>4272759
>complaining about freelook and Y billboarding sprites
>gameplay mod
i guess the other more purer purists kicked you out of their treehouse

>>4272759
Playing a wad for the first time? Yeah, Freelook and weapons mods are cheating, at least to me.
But playing Doom to dick about or with gameplay mods? I use freelook then and give no fucks.

>>4272743
it's fun, anon

>>4272780
I thought HD was about being a weak normal human soldier vs tough demons?
These webms are making it look like a more sensible Trailblazer.

>>4272780
>HD webms
Now that's what I'm talking about
I love watching people play this

I can't think of many good levelsets for this so I just played HD in regular Doom 1 and 2

So I guess two of Jimmy's mods got married and had a kid.

>>4272768
Me too;When it's necessary.

>>4272783
Normal soldier can do a lot with proper training.

>>4271767
hl1 black ops

too lazy to get a pic

>>4272768
>i jump on torches to bypass level segments
disgusting
>i crouch to avoid projectiles
unforgivable
>i use resurect when i die
no worse than reloading a savegame.

>>4272791
Is

is this NTR?

>>4272810
>no worse than reloading a savegame.
I'd argue that's a load of shit, but then when I do save I don't do it often.

>>4272810
are you just being contrary at this point

>>4272810
>no worse than reloading a savegame.
you get all your health back
enemies don't

it's the only one of the three that actually counts as a cheat

>>4272783
evil can never triumph over one armed with the power of god
the power of big guns makes a decent substitute

>>4272785
scythe is working pretty well so far

>>4272821
this reminds me of alien swarm solo runs

woah guys this is so much better

>>4272818
>you get all your health back
>enemies don't
true, i didn't think of it that way.
>it's the only one of the three that actually counts as a cheat
that depends how you define a cheat. just because gzdoom doesn't refer to finite actor height, jumping and crouching as cheats doesn't mean they aren't.

>>4272828
can't tell if you're being sarcastic but yes it does.

>>4272836
>yes it does
*look better than paper sprites.

i will concede it looks a bit silly but paper sprites just look terrible.

>>4272768
>i use resurect when i die
I mean you can pretty much do with with iddqd in vanilla anyway, so a purist can't even truly complain here.

holy shit, that's one hell of a greeting

>>4272836
>>4272837
No, it really doesn't.

This is one of those things where it's opinions and there is no better or worse option,

lmao 2baron

>>4272047
Do you mind adding this version of my map?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2g7nxoq361b024d/bre_300vr_b.wad?dl=0

I had to fix a trigger issue where some monsters would not teleport after getting the ssg and walking back down the steps, as I saw in JohnSuitepee's stream.

>>4272765

Is there a way to get finer control over mouse sensitivity in PrBoom+?

>>4272759
>>4272768

>>4271615
>>4271642
The axe is not nearly as bad if you take maximum advantage of the instantaneous weapon swapping speed.

>shoot enforcer with a shotgun/double barrel blast
>instantly switch to the axe and kill him while he's stunned

>blast ogre with grenade
>run up to him and deliver a bunch of axe swipes
>finish him off with a double barrel blast

And all this without losing momentum. Unlike the melee weapons from say, Doom, the axe is meant to be used in conjunction with the rest of the arsenal. In general, it is good to remember the weapon switch time and how it affects combat before judging any of the Quake arsenal.

jumping

>>4272880
I think a lot of people (including me) rag on the axe because it has absolutely awful feedback. At least with the fist in doom it has a satisfying thump as you punch dudes, the axe has nothing.

I think the axe would actually be better as a dedicated button where hitting it swipes out with the axe and goes back to your currently equipped weapon, along with better feedback of course

>whine about not being able to do this part
>get it on my first time after some rest
Guess I'll continue playing stardate 20x6 on UV then

>>4272821
What mod is this?

>>4272893
Fuck my life

>>4272902
Looks like Hideous Destructor, prepare your asshole with all the different controls

>>4272907
>all those Revenants.
I fucking hate maps that do this. I'm getting near the end of 300mins and I've noticed a couple of maps that do just this. 30 homing missiles on your ass at all times is really annoying, especially since only one can fuck you up on UV.

>>4272910
I see more imps in his screenshot. Even says an imp called him.

>>4272910
Back to Saturn X was especially irritating with it's love of Revenant armies. I'd rather fight groups of chaingunners.

>>4272912
>called
meant killed

please call an exorcist, I can't hold it anymore

>>4272910
First it's revenant towers (don't bother killing them, another spawns as soon as you kill one)
Then two archviles spawn
And two more
And two more
Then you you are you able to press the switch, get the blue key and the area is flooded with revenants, imps and at least one archville
FUN

>>4272917
police line do not cross

>too many revenants reee
I still think this is meme tier whinging.

>play around with portals
>get idea
>prototype
>lose interest

Inspire me, bros.

How the fuck did NOD get it's hands on UAC's BFG 9000?

>>4272928
I'm being serious, it just isn't fun.
How are you supposed to fight this sort of thing? My tactic is to lure them into a bottleneck and fire rockets into the crowd.
That or get them to piss off some of the bigger demons.

>>4272937
Where's the portal?

Revenant saturation is only good if there are also hordes of other monsters, particularly Hell nobles. Infighting takes care of the rest.

>>4272937
Fuck nigga how did you get the floor portal working? I've never been able to make those work.

>>4272940
Learn how to manipulate their fireballs.

>>4272948
This. There's one section in Epic that does this well - You get locked in a room and suddenly a small army of Revs teleport in one side of the room, and a bunch of Hellknights on the other. Getting them to infight is the best way to clear the room and escape.

who do these jokers think they're up against?

>>4272954
A spawnkiller

>>4272942

There is two different ones, stacked (for the staircase) and line (for window).

>>4272949

Here you go. Doom 2. Take note of how I reused the sector tags to avoid having to set the sidedef for each step. The spacing for the floor "thickness" was trial and error.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jbagwuykllwmj6f/tower.wad?dl=0

>>4272962
Thanks I'll take a look, maybe it was just some minor thing I missed.

>>4272917
looks like something I'd see in a snapmap

>>4272962
>>4272964
Oh NOW I see how this is supposed to work, fuck I can't believe I never figured that out.

AAAAAA this, you meme loving fucks

>>4272962
Couldn't you of just used 3D floors? Seems it would of been much simpler for the same effect.

>>4272973
disgusting

>>4272978

Not if you start reaching 4 and above floors. This lets you place things on multiple floors easier and you have some control over sound.

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=57837#p1017786

Interactive stacked portals also work nicely on automap, line ones take a bit more effort.

>>4272821
yo is that a fucking heartbeat meter

> relaxed heartrate
> fire big gun
> heartrate spikes

also does your health regen speed scale up with it?

>>4272979
?

>mfw brush based mapper and don't understand what all the kebab about portals and floors over floors are

>>4273005
imagine
> many rooms over other rooms
> top view wireframe
> not a horrible mess
> each room seperated in editor
> connected ingame

>>4273009
>implying i have any reason to use wireframe view when trenchbroom exists

>>4272917

good enough

>>4271621
>>4271621
Why doesn't this webm work for me? It moves for 2 seconds then freezes but says it's playing.

>>4273005
I think that shows your lack of mapping knowledge more than the fact you use brushes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiqHw9v3mDA

>>4272937
This happened to me many, many years ago when I was a kid after playing Aliens TC. I had an idea to create a space ship kinda modeled after the Nostromo using the Aliens TC files. I made it multi-leveled by surrounding ladders with transporter areas, so it was kind of like you were climbing the ladders.

>>4273052
Sorry, should have specified id tech brushes. Unreal engine's always had that crazy portal shit, hasn't it? I remember some old UT99 map with a portal on top of a skyscraper and another at ground level and shooting yourself in the head through the top one.

>>4272994
yes and yes
stimpacks increase your regen rate and your heartrate increases to match it, at least. if it's increased because of anything else you usually won't be healing and there's often a waiting period before it kicks in. i have a ton of supernatural healing stockpiled from soulspheres and megaspheres which starts fixing me up sooner and also effectively guarantees that i'll never need a medikit again. i can even take on a baron with a chainsaw, win, and walk away with no lasting wounds.

>>4273018

this is taking me more than I'd like to admit

>>4271836
It's not the closest. Sound Canvas VA uses instruments from the 88 while Doom was composed on the 55

>>4273073

I kinda want to make a powerup that allows you to punch faster. For a Berserk map. No prior experience with weapon modding or anything like that, any tips?

>>4271767

>>4272973
such low TTK
is this brutal doom: hipster edition?

>>4273075
it has sc-55 mode which is pretty much 99% the same as the real thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kY9vvyj-Dk

>>4273015
only 3d mapping i've done is source

>>4273098
guess so

>>4273082
that architecture reminds me of Q1/Q3 maps

>>4273127
It's a direct remake of an Unreal Tournament '99 map, specifically DM-Agony.

>>4273098
yes and you should totally play it as such

has anyone ever tried recreating bunnyhopping or strafejumping in doom?

>>4273138
jpalomo once tried to make the 7 tic delay after landing configurable so the engine could behave like Quake engine/id Tech 2~3, however he gave up because it led to bigger problems.

your thoughts on the Chasm

>>4273150
How so? you mean the lack of air control and low acceleration?

I ain't afraid of no quake.

Does this count as a FPS?

http://youtu.be/q5SHYMnRk6A?t=225

>>4273082
Doomguy the midget

>>4273185
Full machine.

>>4273185
It's clearly third person.

blocks your switch

me too

>>4273168
it's shit

>>4273205
hahaha how is body blocking even real, like just circle around them
i don't remember the full quote

>>4273168
love it (except for the inescapable pit near the end)

>>4273209
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Blocking Paths Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Circle Around From The Doom Like Nigga Close Your Eyes Haha

>be me
>fucking dumbass
>start a wad hosting site with almost no means to fund it
>free plan of amazon's aws is about to run out
This is probably more suited to /g/ but are there any decent VPS hosts that are pretty cheap with okay-ish performance? Don't want to run ads or beg for donations to keep it running.

>>4273125
How to get Hideous Destructor to run on gzdoom? I only get a zip file from the download

>>4273235
Get ZDL and put the Zip in the PWAD section

check out his glowy hands

>>4273238
Oh thanks bro

>>4273185
>>4273189
>>4273191
ARE there any LCD FPSes?

Thoughts on ROTT 2013?

>>4273229
>Don't want to run ads or beg for donations to keep it running.
Good heart, but get ready to run ads or beg for donations. Better hope anons disable their adblock.

>>4273082
>>4273073

>>4273258
Not gonna lie, I fucking loved it.

>>4273258
i like the part where thi barrett and and lorerei ni fart when you eat the porridge

>>4273235
just load the folder

>>4273260
Looking at AWS reserved instance pricing it's around 60 bucks per year. With 160-ish for 3 years. Fuck, gotta scrounge that up before the 30th, I guess.

>>4273263
That's a pretty great Servo.

My favorite part of retro 3D FPSs are jumping puzzles.

>>4273286
triggered

>>4273301
Been playing the remaster on steam recently. I just switch over to a controller when a section like this shows up. They're generally a breeze with analog controls at 60 fps.

>>4273310
The platforming itself is okay, it's the incredibly low FOV in the original game (that isn't default in the remaster) that is the problem.

>>4273286
Worse: timed switch hitting puzzles to lower/raise platforms to climb up as stairs.
And each switch is located in a different room surrounding a central room with the platforms.
And every time you need to make a minor adjustment, you have to run halfway around the level to hit the switch for half a second and run all the way back so you can properly climb the platforms.
Colony Ship For Sale, Cheap.

>>4272880
Never tough of using multiple guns for a single encounter tbqh

here have some 90s bill gates

https://youtube.com/watch?v=KN0K58EfJSg

>>4273168
I had literally 0 issues with it, but apparently everyone hates it. It's ironically probably the only map that is easier with keyboard only.

>>4273173
Probably that, and when i asked him in IRC about that, he also said it had something to do with the jumping button being unresponsive after a while i think, i'm not sure though, this was like in 2013.

Where is the haters of texture filters and engine improvements? I have a candy for them.

Don't interrupt me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN0K58EfJSg&ab_channel=raij

>>4273229
>are there any decent VPS hosts that are pretty cheap with okay-ish performance?
doomworld runs on linode, it works fine.

>>4273395
This looks like Quake 3 single player.

>>4273395
Texture filters look like shit on low res textures and that doesn't looks remotely interesting.

>>4271767

>>4273403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKJmlrhSr5U

>>4273395
Hell knight's having a giggle about something there

>>4273258
it's awful.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13975808
http://www.strawpoll.me/13975808
http://www.strawpoll.me/13975808

>>4273403
>>4273420
I can't wait until Tim Willy forces Sync to add Hunter at gunpoint. The day of lizard slaughter is coming.

>>4273451
>all these save-scummers in the poll

>>4273258
Fun in a cheap way. Cheap in a fun way.
It's alright.

>>4273451
Needs an option for only using a limited number of saves per map, because I save at the start of each map and allow up to two more saves mid-map to act as 'checkpoints'. It's more forgiving than save-at-the-start-only but not as easy-mode and casual as save scumming.

>>4273451
I'd rather save often in case something breaks or crashes. But if I die, I often just... Stop playing for a while. That's one way to challenge myself.

But sometimes I just want to look at the maps and I don't care about challenges.

>>4273459
>save-scummers

>>4273476
Saving was absolutely intended but that doesn't mean savescumming isn't a thing, and a bad thing at that.

This doesn't just apply to to doom.

Is he right?

>>4273492
i am going to find you and i am going to fuck you

>>4273492
He's not wrong, but it's just the pistol so who cares; it's not like the regular shotgun or chaingun itself become totally eclipsed by the SSG or plasma rifle to where using them is a complete downgrade with no situational advantages. So the starting weapon becomes worthless, big whoop, you weren't gonna use the ammo for it anyway.

>>4273492
Only reason to switch to a pistol in any game is for accuracy or ammo conservation, But the pistol uses the same ammo and even less accurate than the chaingun.

>>4273492
saving ammo when shooting switches

>>4273492
yea pretty much.
its whatever theres always one item like this in every game

>>4273492
Yeah, the pistol exists to remind you to get a bigger weapon.
Also this. >>4273519

>>4273492
You post this like there's even any way to dispute it. That's pretty universally accepted I thought.

It's kind of a shame, pistols can be fun.

>>4273492
The relatively low strength or usefulness of the pistol simply makes picking up a stronger weapon much more satisfying.

>>4273492
I wish he wasn't. There's been examples of starter weaponry done in such a way where the weapon can stay relevant and useful throughout an entire run. But Doom's pistol is just horrendous.

>>4273451
I save at random points, but I'm not as bad as I used to be, when I was a kid I used to reload a save basically any time I got hit. Now I accept death or mistakes more often.

I also try to not save as much, tho it's inevitable in long levels.

I liked the DUMP 2 weapon pack pistol because while the damage from the pistol was even shittier than normal, you could rapid fire spam it with infinite ammo and more importantly you could grab a berzerk pack and suddenly the knife attack altfire let you one shot revanents. I think it got nerfed a bit in the final builds which was sad because you were just a fucking terror once you found one.

>>4273451
pistol start and if i die too much i turn down the skill level. savegames are annoying because i always forget to save

>>4273586
Don't you mean DUMP 3

>>4273085
I'm sorry who is this?
Fat old Samus?

>>4273586
in the final builds, it no longer restores accuracy if you space out your shots

thanks, yhollbama

>>4272869
>Do you mind adding this version of my map?
not at all, that's fine. i will restore the co-op player starts 300manager added.

>I had to fix a trigger issue where some monsters would not teleport after getting the ssg and walking back down the steps,
oh now you mention this i think i think it must have happened to me on my fda, i remember thinking the appearance of the cacodemons seemed to be a bit random but i never looked into what triggered it. thanks for the fix!

>as I saw in JohnSuitepee's stream.
oh he's done it already? damn, i wanted to see that

>>4273602
It's one of the Team Fortress classic mercs from the comics I believe, forget which one it is.

>>4273608
pyro

>>4273602
TF2 comic featuring the TFC mercs, who are hired by a villain character and all also growing old, which plays a key point for Classic Heavy's motives later in. Anon's image is supposed to be the Classic Pyro without their mask.

Classic Medic doesn't make an appearance.

>>4273560
They learned their lesson in Quake where SG can be used reasonably well as a sniping tool, and kills basic mooks much faster.
And in Q2 blaster has infinite ammo and doubles as illumination in dark areas.
Unrealdid pretty much the same as Q2, except making it upgradeable.

>>4273621
Yeah, which is well appreciated, though god damn I would have killed for a mighty boot or a punch to go alongside the blaster's pitiful rate of fire and low power.

Unreal's Blaster is fucking brilliant though, seeing as the upgrades keep it relevant the further you go on

>certified asshole with no social skills and overblown ego
>no sense of gameplay balance
>thinks cramming a ton of random shit, most of which is completely irrelevant 99% of the time, makes a good mod
>doesn't even know how to play the original game well
>has worst 2hu as waifu
Yholl is by far the biggest faggot in ZDoom "community" I've ever had displeasure of conversing with.

>>4273631
wew

>>4273631
here's your (You), you may leave satisfied now

>>4273618
>Classic Medic doesn't make an appearance.
>even though they could mock how he's used as an aids-spreading scout instead of a medic

>>4273631
I'd love to hear how you conversed with the person who has no social skills and avoids people as much as possible.

>>4273631
only the point at which you die will it be acceptable for you to post again

>>4272737
>except archviles
Dare I ask what happened with arch viles?

>>4273672
they are invlnerable to normal means of damage
instead will die after enough pain flinches
and they have a very low pain chance

AFAIK

Has anyone ported Quake to goldsource?
I dont think it would have any major benefits, but I think it would be a fun experiment

>>4273698
...that explains why I couldn't kill them by repeatedly BFG-ing them.

>>4273704
not really
valve made deathmatch classic which is quakeworld multiplayer on goldsrc, which is similar

>>4273451
Pistol starts plus save at the 2nd keycard if the map is long

I know I'm like two decades late on this one but what the fuck is up with TNT: Evilution? A lot of is really great, and it has a lot of great action with some great music, but then it keeps
>opening up monster closets immediately behind you
>filling giant arena with hitscanners
>giving Every. Single. Pickup. an obvious trap for whole sections, well beyond being tiresome
It's not even like some mappers doing a good job and others not, it does this even within a lot of the single levels. It's like they knew how to make good maps but then didn't want to and deliberately tried to be hostile to the player.

>>4273492
imo it's fine, could use a little firerate buff, but same can be said about the chaingun

i always pistol start, and pistol is a just another part of the experience

you have to consider flow of the map, think of a it as a musical composition. You have a slow calm introduction with a pistol, then it ramps up once you get shotgun or chaingun, then the main part of the piece is the ssg and rl, and then the culmination with plasma and bfg. If a map is in the beginning of some megawad and doesn't have, say, bfg and plasma, then ssg and rl take their place.

>>4271734
SHOTGUN

If only someone would mod Doom to have Metal Slug sprites.

>>4271734
super shotgun, whether it be vanilla or a mod of any kind
SSG = invulnerability sphere (perminant) = always win

>>4273704
No, but I think someone has ported the final version of Half-Life back into the Quake engine.

>>4271734
SSG
But the better I get at doom the more I like the RL

>>4273785

I agree, I often overlook the rocket launcher because of the potential danger of blowing yourself up and because my brain was wired in "you have to keep rocket ammo for the BIG baddies" mode. But really, rockets are usually plentiful enough that you can go nuts with it.

>>4273793
Honestly my problem with the RL is often when I find a situation I could use it in indoor areas, I realise I'd be screwed over by the amount of time it takes Doomguy to pull it out and I just don't bother.
Besides that it's great.

>>4273767
A Metal Slug-themed weapon pack could be neat

>>4273823
i'm convinced metal slug shotguns aren't actually shotguns
just guns with a stick of dynamite down the barrel
no pellets, just one big explosion infront of you

>>4273698
>>4273710
They're pretty easy to pain. Shotguns and rockets are almost guaranteed, but even the automatics can do it easily enough. The problem is that when you inflict pain on them, they noclip and run the fuck away, usually coming back at the worst possible time to either shove fire up your ass or start undoing all your hard work. When you do finally kill one, it makes things even worse. You get a megasphere for your trouble, but entire swarms of monsters will be revived at random, and you don't have a target you can shoot to prevent it. Your only hope at that point is to run for the exit.

>>4271586
Who played this in the arcades?

>>4273742
It and Plutonia are made to be challenging but back then the only way to do it was ambushes, constant traps and chaingunners

>>4271586
Who played this in the arcades?

>>4273870
Or this?

>>4273858
>back then the only way to do it was ambushes, constant traps and chaingunners
and what about now?

>>4273641
Why do you think they didn't bring him and instead brought an actual medic?

>>4273967

>>4273935
Now you have Boom and can execute much more fun traps with semi-complex voodo-doll scripts.
Boom was developed by same guys who made Plutonia, and since then more than half the maps are made with it in mind.

>>4273998
right, fair enough, i just wondered what you were referring to, because i mean modern maps still use ambushes traps and chaingunners as much as tnt/plutonia ever did, if not more. well more revenants than chaingunners perhaps.

>>4273301

I did this area with the automap, 0 deaths

>>4273451

autosave at the start of every level

>>4273507

can we kiss?

>Worldwide trends

>#BTSCOMEBACKSHOW
>543K Tweets

E3 soon??

>>4273998
>Boom was developed by same guys who made Plutonia
what. no.

>>4271587
Crispy Doom v4.3
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1799088

>is supposed to be the last release based on SDL1.

hooray

>>4273998
>>4274179
some members of TeamTNT who made maps for Evilution, then went on to code Boom.
some other, different, members of TeamTNT who made maps for Evilution, also made Plutonia.

>>4274191
>is supposed to be the last release based on SDL1.
Didn't he say this about 4.2?

>>4273403
Patrician.

>>4274314
probably lol

remember that time John Carmack casually killed ID Software's pet cat and when asked about it he said "oh I removed him".

>>4274267
Yeah but Dario and Milo did not really have anything to do with Boom.

>>4273518
>less accurate than the chaingun
Idiot

>>4273243
are those gzdoom brightmaps or that software illumination warp thingie?

GG NuclearPotatoSA, your rocket launcher trap killed Suitepee

>>4274374
Forgot image

>>4274370
>Perfect accuracy vs good accuracy

???

>>4274376
It's the exact same accuracy, click each time you shoot instead of holding it down and you'll always hit your target, provided you're within hitscan range (if they're not dead center).

>>4274370
>>4274376
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPtMv3Ti6Q8
Castrate yourself

>>4274382
>>4274378
Do you understand what the word "less" means?

Granted I'm pretty sure the pistol is also pinpoint and he's wrong but read niggas.

>>4274398

Yes. It's incorrect.
The pistol and chaingun have the exact same accuracy, there is no "less".

>>4273451
Normally I save, but do so rarely. Perhaps once or twice a map to serve as checkpoints.
With the latest wad I'm playing 300mins I'm trying it the "proper" way (at least according to this place) and force pistol starting with a single save at the start of the map on UV.
22 maps in so far and it's fun. I don't think I'll convert to doing this method exclusively but at least I'm giving it a go.

>>4274398
>>4274413
this is true, both A_FirePistol and A_FireCGun make exactly the same call to P_GunShot, which does the work. the parameters are identical.

>>4273451
Usually I accept death and pistol restart. But on especially long/hard maps, I sometimes save.

I'm glad I'm not stuck with a shitbucket computer now, but Windows 10 is so weird.

GZDoom works on Windows 10, right?

>>4274439
It does.

>>4274445
Thank god.

Now I just need to get all my files back and set up all the software, and I can get to adapting to this new hellish experience.

>>4274439
I can't make it so that I can choose a sourceport after right clicking a wad/pk3 file and selecting the "open with" submenu, I have to click on the "choose program" option and browse to search the fucking application if I want to use something that isn't GZDoom which is the default, including other gzdoom versions that the file only works with.

>>4274439
>windows 10
>you want bill gates and the NSA to see all your files and know everything you do online and offline

>>4274506
Not Gates but poos in loos.

>>4274506

>he thinks they don't know yet

>>4274506
I couldn't give less of a shit about bill gates knowing that I jack off to blackjr's sfm videos.

>>4272869
>>4273607
>>as I saw in JohnSuitepee's stream.
>oh he's done it already? damn, i wanted to see that

here's part 1, supposedly part 2 will be today if he finds time

https://www.twi
tch.tv/videos/176255596

and yes john you should post here.
and stop reading /v/, it's a shit hole.

The Punch Dimension is a fun idea, but fuck having almost no ammo and an Archvile right at the end.
I had to do the unthinkable and quickly exit the level before he killed me.

>>4274506
They already fucking do if you have an electronic device that can connect to the internet, you fucking Slowpoke, google Vault 7.

Outside of only having a laptop and exclusively connecting it to TOR (and you won't), there isn't anything you can actually do to prevent someone from the NSA or CIA from monitor your device if they want to. They can get into basically anything, regardless of if you have Bill's pinkyfinger in your anus or not.

>>4274574

>you will never have Bill's pinkyfinger in your anus

why even doom

>>4274574
might as well give up eh. go and live in a cabin. try to become Ash from Evil Dead

Trying to play half-life in xash3d, but I cant open console. Here's what my shortcut command line looks like. Anything im doing wrong?

>>4274528
heh on map09 he's moaning about not having a backpack right next to the backpack secret, which he missed completely

>>4274602
Can it be opened from in-game?

>>4274375

>>4274602
>>4274632
And if not, could you tell what -game gearbox is for? I'm assuming it's OpFor, have you tried putting -console before it?

what if...