/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
SUM TING /VR/Y WONG
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/10413464
https://archive.org/details/shadow-warrior-mapping-kit

/Vertex Relocation/
IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : Boom
BETA V2: https://files.catbox.moe/tc0rgk.wad

Fraggot
IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : UDMF
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/10885789

=== WHEN IT'S DONE ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE 2
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/9941720

=== NEWS ===
[5-20] Corruption Cards updated to 6.0
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1252393#p1252393

[5-20] Malice Jam is released
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/malice-jam.358/

[5-18] Tomb of Thunder, a Quake mod since very long development is finally released
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7agps4nkqiusaldppylil/TOMBOFTHUNDER_MOD_2024.zip?rlkey=esum1ck088r5fnxu1d360lmjq&e=2&st=8vr5puei&dl=0

[5-17] Nugget Doom version 3.1 released
https://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/releases

[5-14] Duality: MBF21 5 maps mini-wad
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/145127

[5-13] Anon makes a graph detailing long history of /vr/ projects
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10927448#10927901

[5-13] Aleph One version 1.8 released
https://alephone.lhowon.org/
https://github.com/Aleph-One-Marathon/alephone/

[5-10] Fraggot deadline has been extended to May 27. This is the final extension.
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/10921529

[5-8] Brutal Half-Life Version 3 teaser released
https://youtu.be/x4pvAGUPQEg [Embed] [Embed]

[5-7] DOOM 64 EX+ version 4.0.0.0 released
https://github.com/atsb/Doom64EX-Plus

[05-04] ZSAnimator, a Blender to ZScript workflow for weapon animations, has been released.
https://github.com/recurracy3/zsAnimator

[5-2] DOOM Retro version 5.4 released
https://www.doomretro.com/
https://github.com/bradharding/doomretro/

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [mm-dd] date bracket)

first

>>10959350

Doom!

They're... not attacking or moving or doing anything. They're just pinning him between them and bullying him.
He keeps changing directions, back and forth, unable to move.
I am dying right now.

Doom is fun.

>>10959469
Dude's enjoying it.

>>10959320
>The water purifier bombs are pretty cool.

Yeah I didn't know that could be done. Would be awesome if you could make it hurt demons. I imagine a priest character who could bless hurtfloors into holy water.

>>10959350
>>10959389

played some more shooters

>Retchid
6.5/10 surprisingly entertaining for what it is
>Hyperviolence
5/10
>Turbo Overkill
5/10 utterly obnoxious
>Beyond Sunset
4/10 plays significantly worse than the free Demonsteel mod as a paid game
>Voidborn
7.5/10. Shameless ripoff of Ultrakill aside, does some cool things Ultrakill doesn't (like not having totally sub amateur-level environment design for instance), pretty addicting.
>Quake Enyo Mod (from that Slave Zero X game)
6/10
>Zortch
6.5/10
>Disdain
5.5/10
>Age of Hell
6/10 ditto about Demonsteel

>>10959582
Did you finish these or just play them. Also why Enyo only a 6?

>>10959582
>plays significantly worse than the free Demonsteel mod as a paid game
That's been my experience with most of this retro-alike stuff, they don't end up measuring up to mods by somebody with either the heart, talent or both to pull it off so instead they go down the nostalgia marketing route.

It's especially damning when their sales page has to list a ton of 90s/2000s FPS games that they hope you irrationally associate with their game.

I feel like Robert D'Niro in Goodfellas, this fucking executioner enemy in Wrath - big guy with a mask covering his face and giant blades for hands - charged at me so I got away from him and dealt with some other enemies. Mop em up, ready the railgun for him, and he's just gone. I don't know where the fuck he could have possibly gone to, but he's vanished. Poor fuck.

Valve has lost it, bros.

>>10959619
Not retro.

>>10959469
>There's only the Pfhor of us.

>>10959582
Next time you play these include a short description for all of them. We have no idea what your taste is like in general or what particularly annoyed you which is the most important takeaway.

As far as I'm concerned, I feel like the 'retro' gimmick is a bit of a crutch for middling developers similar to parody soulslikes : if you can't make a competent product then sell it as parody or retro to comp for mediocrity.

That said however there are always some good ones in the bunch here and there which makes it worth it. Similar to dumpster diving old ps2 games from the bargain bin sometimes you find shit, sometimes it's bad shit, boring shit [worst] or interesting, deeply flawed but a flavorgul game.

The issue is starting to be when all the indies are starting to get infected with the same bland safespace bs which causes a lot of the flavor to be sucked out in favor of appeasing californioid sensibilities.

>add 2 new enemies, 2 new weapons, color green
>ask for full retail price
fucking hutzpah

>play retro inspired shooters
>love most of them
>"this is so cool, I would love to make one too"
>come here and see how most people tend to dislike the ones I love the most
I'm not exactly discouraged but this definitely gives me a different perspective on things, which is ultimately a good thing, I suppose.

>>10959709
Most of us are likely older than you and have played high quality/inspired mods that modern commercial indie retro first person shooters don't hold a candle to and thus aren't worth loving, especially being sold. Worth liking? Definitely.

>>10959709
Go ahead and make one anyway, champ, don't let us stop you

>>10959709
I'm kind of in a middle space where I enjoy a bunch of those retro inspired shootas, dislike some and think that others are highly mediocre.

But that's honestly how it was back in those shooters' days too. It wasn't like everyone liked the same stuff, those games were expensive-ish and you'd have to be reasonably loaded to play all of them. Some games that are palatable today because you got them for 5-10 buckaroos from a Steam / GoG sale were full priced back in the day like imagine committing to Blood 2 for the ''1 game every 6 months'' purchase? Stings.

The magic of the internet allows me to better filter out the shit that's mid and keep to the good ones.

>>10959715
I guess that's fair, there's very few games, indie or otherwise, that are as good as some things people make for free as Doom and Quake mods, but I guess I'm very easily entertained even by things that aren't.
That reinforce my theory that it's probably better to make a game as a free gameplay mod first then expand upon it afterwards.
>>10959726
Oh, I'm not stopping, and certainly not expecting everyone to like what I make. I just hope I can make something people like as much as, let's say, Rekkr.
>>10959727
I guess price is another factor. I haven't bought any expensive game in ages so I feel like what I have payed for is worth it.

>>10959749
>Rekkr
Aim higher than Rekkr please.

>>10959758
rude

Episode 3 of Wolf 3D so much better then the first two, the map design is just so much better, Romero's maps are the better one but Hall's maps have also improved, a masterpiece.

>>10959774
About the only grievance I can take with Episode 3 are the couple of signature Tom Hall mazes, luckily they're both optional. Brace yourself for a quality drop in Episode 4, it's all Tom and he gets a bit experimental, exploring ideas approaching prototype slaughter and monster closets. Episode 5 is all Romero and I'd say it's the best official id content for the game. 6 is a real shitshow with some wretched maps from Tom and even Bobby Prince, but it also has a top tier Romero map in the middle. If you care to move on to Spear after that, its quality is relatively consistent and around high Episode 1 to low Episode 3 tier, but all the maps are huge, there's sadly nothing like Romero's super lean Episode 3 and 5 maps in it.

do roller gas grenades just not kill enemies anymore? i guess it was too good to last, but still.

>>10959605
>this fucking executioner enemy in Wrath
I love those guys. The one you encountered probably run out and fall off.
>>10959709
>I'm not exactly discouraged but this definitely gives me a different perspective on things
That's good. Keep the balance with this. Every person has an opinion and many won't share your perspective on said games, which is totally fine and don't let that get to you. At the same time, it's no excuse to dismiss proper argument and critics just because you don't like them.
>>10959749
Just keep it low. Don't run into ambition trap. Focus on making something small and simple. Make the game you like and many people will resonate with that.

Finished Zeppelin Armada a couple days ago and I have no idea what to do next.

Thinking of waiting for tomorrow when that Tarkov mod drops and using it as an excuse to replay Alien Vendetta for the umpteenth time.

>>10959820
Bobby did maps for Wolf?

>>10959605
The executioners are bastards in E2, but pussies in E3 because the mace one-hits them at full charge. Which is why I never used the alt fire for it.

>>10959330
Are my combos any good? I am trying to get a rough feeling of progression somewhat, although I just want to play more doom. I am trying to avoid the russian overkill+slaughter powerlevel and stick to rule of cool. The mapesets are roughly older to newer.
Ignore the non-numbered entries, those are just saved to be put in later.
I'm open to mod+mapset suggestions

>>10959709
Doom having decades of maps over many indie FPS, on top of mods that can alter the game to taste just enough without fucking with too much else doesn't really help, it's all competition too. Quality maps to go with a tried and true lineup of weapons and monsters is hard to beat, even with largely basic movement by design. Trying to unify a lot of elements cohesively - weapons, enemies, pickups and maps, admittedly isn't very easy either.

The state of throwback shooters is always going to be a mixed and very subjective bag, and personal tastes aside - you can only really sieve out the truly bad ones otherwise. Will say it's a little sad when those with a level editor available will also generally never get much content made for them, but it's not unexpected.

>>10960000
I wanna know what is the truly awful throwback shooters.

>>10960000
>inb4 forgetting about that quad

>>10959914
Yeah, just a couple in E6. They're bad. One was salvaged into near-playability by Tom, but the other was less fortunate.

>>10960005
The ones you don't hear about.

>>10960027
I heard Phantom Fury was a mess

>>10960065
I saw who the devs were and knew it would be bland. It makes me really appreciate Ion Fury, and everything Voidpoint had to deal with in Build while under a weird publisher.

>>10960065
Phantom Fury is trying to be more of a half-like than a boomer shooter imo, they're trying to focus more on linear level design, storytelling, rather than being extremely fast paced and having maze-like level design with little to no story.

But despite Phantom Fury qualifying as a half-like rather than a boomer shooter, it's still a very shitty game with extremely broken and buggy design, they could've at least delayed it to the end of 2024, but who am I kidding? Shitgate Ironworks is known for creating buggy mediocre titles, it was expected.

Is the guy making MBF21 monsters still around?

>>10959867
Seems they just have a suppressive/stunning effect now instead. On the bright side it looks like it works well on anything that's not a cyberdemon or mastermind, and if you fuck up it'll just stun you until you get out of the clouds instead of being guaranteed death. Even barons who are usually the worst about attacking you when they're not supposed to won't do shit as long as they're getting gassed.

>>10959774
>wolf3d
>level design
Implying that Wolf3D is not a flat ugly samey game that got obsolete in 1993.

>>10959334
Map for Fraggot, must load with the texture wad : https://files.catbox.moe/qy4nwu.wad
Title : Corner Convenience Shop In Purgatory
Music : "Endless" by Jogeir Liljedahl
Textures : https://euroboros.net/zandronum/download.php?file=asdfjkl6.wad

Cool video lol : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1OMIv1c2F8

>>10959627
No, bad anon, I get enough of that from the level names thank you

hey, here's a shitty map i've made last night, i'm about to delete it because it sucks but decided to share it before i do

image

>>10960314
>>10960317
indeed it looks like shit, good call

>>10959330
i tried to get back into playing online zandronum but something with the 11th gen intel integrated graphics (the Iris Xe or whatever) causes that shit to crash hard as rock after about 30 min. didn't used to do that on the previous 2.x version, it started with the 3.0 or 3.1 update
annoying as I would really like to get back into playing as some of mods are fun as shit but not if it crashes non-stop
using openGL mode, it is definitely the graphics driver crashing as I can see it in the windows logs

>>10959774
I'm partial to the huge 15-20 minute levels at the end of Episode 6 and in Spear of Destiny, but Episode 3's definitely had a focused vision of being short enough to keep even the most loosely interested player motivated to get to and experience the boss fight. In general, I like the levels that tried to deliver a unique challenge despite the limited weapon and enemy roster. For example, the officers behind the pillars at the start of E3F6 where you have to focus on cutting down a few before repositioning them into a more favorable bottleneck. E6F6 where everyone wakes up after one shot and you have to really concentrate for a couple minutes is another standout. There's the proto-stealth mission where you follow the blood splatters. There's all the rudimentary traps like the white stone room in E2F6. It feels by the end of Spear of Destiny that they'd exhausted just about every trick they could've pulled on the player to kill them with what they had, like stuffing one (or nine) enemies in the exit elevator, which got really overused to the point where you'll start instinctively pre-firing every time while thinking, "nope, still not gonna get me with that".
It's an incredibly soulful game for me for that reason because of how simple Wolfenstein is mechanically, and yet you can pinpoint so many examples where they're still coming up with creative ways to punish the player that would later be polished to a shine with better technology.

I just beat Quake on Nightmare difficulty and I feel proud of myself.

>>10960372
Very cool. Vanilla nightmare or updated?

>>10960384
Vanilla

>>10959454
Source?

>>10960395
Even cooler

>>10960384
Remaster NM is stupid because it makes Spawns even stronger.

>>10960431
I think original nightmare fast shamblers are worse but it is fun the first time through.

>>10960438
Do Shamblers kill that much faster compared to normal damage at half health?

>>10960449
They have instant reaction times, putting you in a real awful spot if you’re at really low health and no cover when they show up. Nightmare-speed vores are another doozy.

>>10959334
OP, next time you should ditch the news post on good conscience instead of being so half-assed. I know I'd approve, as plenty of others.

>>10960465
suggest improvements or cry harder faggot

>>10960317
I like it

>>10960317
>>10960483
Looks kind of cool, like an abandoned mine or something.

Has potential for doing risk/reward stuff with crushers as mining machinery,

>>10959469
Borderline Jojo poses on those pfhor. One of those times I wish I was a drawfag...

>>10960095
I actually wanted more story to Ion Fury and I think Phantom Fury's more imsim-style approach will work for it.

That said ideally Phantom Fury would be a 360 era attitude third person shooter with great ragdolls,gore sexual innuendo, fanservicey outfits and ultra-violence, tentacle monsters that strangle Shelly etc. Give me the rights to be the director and the Wanted : Dead dev team amd I will create the best Shellyverse game ever.

https://youtu.be/UFVUL2WwTJo?si=mRmdanR58irQ3FKL

Been searching around and no dice for the soundfont used in these MIDIs, anyone might have any idea of a possible candidate?

This new Typhon mod has been a pretty decent incentive for me to try the other one, 'cause other than the hands and some of the guns, that one looks cooler.

>>10959887
>Zeppelin Armada
I started that just yesterday cause I was looking for maps to play with High Noon Drifter after I played Fistful & Magnificent Five.

>>10959334
Fraggot map update
https://files.catbox.moe/2c3z42.wad
Mostly changes based on anons feedback. Plus some visual improvements.

>>10959887
If you're looking for something short, try Doom 2 re-build-t, it's one of the only times I've had fun with one of those "lets revamp vanilla maps" projects by trying to do them in a build engine style.

For the anons who were asking about something that's even close to Ashes 2063, this is probably it, it's still in development and is a Strife mod, is set in Bohemia rather than post-apocalyptic America but it's a thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVDTOf_6PWY

>>10960065
Phantom Furry would have graduated from "shit" to "inferior imitation" if the mouse speed didn't max out at "just slow enough to be annoying".

.

>>10960724
Yeah... Scourge of Armagon is pretty great overall (arguably better than id's campaign), but that's a very glaring low point. I guess they wanted to flex their rotating geometry at all costs and just overlooked how jank this is.

>he doesn't autistically make light stencil brushes for kino shadows

>>10960317
I dunno, looks okay.

I kinda want a map set where we imitate 90s user maps. Not the good ones that set standards, but the average joes bullshit map with big ideas but somewhat poor execution or imperfect design. Low detail recreations of real world locations using almost only stock textures. Illogical placement of poorly palettes scantily clad women. MSpaint-esque enemy/weapon alterations...
Doomin' It Like The 90s

>>10960779
I hope some day we can get a Doom editor that will build sector lighting for you.

>>10960801
I'd imagine something that figures out how *existing* sextors should be lit based on light location or sunlight angle wouldn't be too complex. Cutting new sectors for projected shadows and whatnot is probably a completely different story.

>>10960823
>that figures out how *existing* sextors
>sextors
You wouldn't fuck a sector.

>>10959454
>gauntlet style mod that turns enemies into enemy spawners
>use big doom from last thread so you can fill rooms with more monsters
>add overpowered guns and or special attacks
Yep, it's slaughterfun time.

>>10960854
Not even this one?

>>10960874
Especially not that one.

>>10960873
>quake play better around retarded autism
HUH

>>10960926

>>10959469
stop kinkshaming >:(

>>10960724
I don't think there's any way to get past this without losing half health. It's like they threw it together at the last minute as some novel gimmick and thought "People probably saved before this, right?" They didn't even bother properly setting up the obituary.

>>10960065
For me, it's one of those cases where I would really need to playthrough the entire thing myself before actually making up my mind. Usually you can just look at a couple of gameplay video (not necessarily reviews or whatever opinion pieces) to get a general idea of what you think the game is and how you're going to vibe with it.
In case of Phantom Fury, I'm feeling lost and confused. There's something in there and that said thing is fine as far as I can tell, but all the usual schizophrenia that's been following 3D Realms for the last like 15+ years of its existence seem to really warp my perception of reality whenever they enter the picture in some major way.
No way I'm saying it's flawless a-okay game. Just feel like I'm stuck in a circus at a psych ward. Either way, I'm giving them a + for trashtalking YouTubers in their private server. Even though I'm sure that all of developers in that side of industry talk about them in this way behind the scenes, it was a fun read thanks to some salty retard who was stupid enough to not stay anonymous.
>>10960095
>Phantom Fury is trying to be more of a half-like than a boomer shooter imo
That's funny because that's how they actually advertised it.
>>10960530
>I actually wanted more story to Ion Fury
Despite been left kinda sad by what little I saw of Phantom's narrative, I'm still low-key interested to view all it has to offer on that front.
>That said ideally Phantom Fury would be a 360 era attitude third person shooter
They should remake/reboot Bombshell in this way.

>>10961016
>a plus for trashtalking youtubers in their private server
Baaased, any caps or qrd?

I'm actually seeing a lot of Command and Conquer Renegade in Phantom Fury, I'm high key expecting something like a cross between that, Half Life, Far Cry 1 and Deus Ex.

>>10960779
Mine's a bit more geometrically rudimentary.

Phantom Fury I'm gonna have to try myself. There is a lot in there that I typically enjoy just from watching reviews.

>>10961039
>Baaased
Yup.
>any caps or qrd?
Was about to head off to bed, but based on now locked Steam thread:
>ex-Slipgate artist who was laid off got "sick of toxic and tonedeaf response to criticism".
>Shares some screenshots from Slipgate's private Discord server with either a friend or some YouTuber's server.
>Screenshots get posted on Steam thread ("Support your creators" LMFAO) and then brought up on Twitter.
>There's not that much to go off, sadly. UnderTheMayo is a clown and ZlimBratSki with unnamed YouTuber being idiots.
>"There’s more to share but that’s enough for now."
>Now ex-community manager of 3D Realms ended up replying with usual "comments don't represent the company's views" and "sharing these screenshots violates company's privacy & NDA".
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1733240/discussions/0/4364626769119883459/

As far as I heard, some YouTubers have (naturally) milked this situation for clout since shitting on 3DR just kept getting more and more popular. It's also worth noting that Rekkimaru (the leaker) has been looking for job for a while now, been dealing with financial issues and worked on his own game.
This stunt surely will "help" him with all that.

https://kotaku.com/doom-3-eternal-sequel-dark-ages-year-zero-xbox-june-1851500253

ignore the shit source, I want to believe

>>10961093
Thanks for the QRD. Muchos appreciados amigo. Ah man like it feels so weird. It's almost as if a lot of the typical bumshoot tubers just had their source of tendies turned off and now they're mad. Like really Civvie you stan for dogshit like Nightmare Reaper but Phantom Fury is where you make the stand?
I will dig deeper into this later.

>>10961112
>Ignore the shit source
I ain't clicking that shiet.

>>10961117
well June 9 there is a game show and new doom will be shown is the rumor.

>>10961117
After his Serious Sam video I filled Civvie into my "sack of shit" drawer. I had issues with his takes on Postal 2 (a pacifist run is actually really fun if you know your shit, pro Postal my ass) but that one sealed him being an absolute fucktard in my book.

>>10961112
i can't believe they ripped off gmota
kegan, you better sue

Okay, what now?

>>10961135
best flavor, you sip and play doom or quake wads.

currently playing through Ancient Aliens, just got done with the second ep.
I'm curious, how do you guys feel about the custom enemies of this wad? The invisible enclave(?) dudes are kinda neat but i hate these almond niggas so much man

>>10961117
>Thanks for the QRD. Muchos appreciados amigo. Ah man like it feels so weird. It's almost as if a lot of the typical bumshoot tubers just had their source of tendies turned off and now they're mad. Like really Civvie you stan for dogshit like Nightmare Reaper but Phantom Fury is where you make the stand? I will dig deeper into this later.
This is what I was wondering too. Did they just fail to gib the boom shoot reviewers their required 30 shekels or something? There is stuff that is far more generic gzdoom boomer shooter nonsense that is getting better previews/reviews which threw me off. A half like even with a ton of issues should have breezed right through just on the novelty of not being another wise cracking generic trend chasing 'insincere' boom shoot.

>>10961135
I get these blue summits from Aldi's for less than a dollar. I actually prefer them to Monster Zero Ultra now.

>>10961139
Stealth niggas are alright, aren't any worse than chaingunners. Fliers took some getting used to, there were absolute cunts at first but over time I've grown to not mind them all that much as enemies, they go down easily to rockets and AA being made by Skillsaw means there's more than enough to go around with.

>>10961139
Idunno, but I love that floor.

>>10961125
Well it has been a while since Eternal so... who knows?

>>10960779
>>10961040
Woah both look really cool

>>10961152
a new doom game would print money so they'd be retarded not to make one.

>>10961125
Please God, let it be more like 2016 than Eternal.

TIL why the next to last level of Marathon is named "Try Again"

>>10961112
>According to a new report, it seems like the next big Doom game from Id Software and Bethesda will be announced soon. But it sounds like this next entry in the popular FPS franchise won’t be a traditional sequel, but instead, possibly a prequel showing the origins of the series’ main character, the Doomslayer.
Cool. They shat the bed with the whole slayer concept halfway through Eternal, but it makes money so now they're going in reverse to milk it with a prequel that will definitely not suck eggs as well. Remember that blurb in the original manual about the protagonist being some random no name doing moon duty as punishment? Now he'll be some epic vaguely-European pastiche fighting ancient deities and whatever other cliches they decide to throw in the blender.

>Insider Gaming says that last year it heard “early details” about the still-unconfirmed game and was told that it’s set in a “medieval-inspired Doom world.” The outlet suggests that the previous codename of “Year Zero” and the “Dark Ages” title, along with the mention of medieval inspiration
You know, id owns another IP that would fit the dark medieval concept better, but at this point I think Quake's better off left in history.

>>10961139
after all these years the clip graphic still looks great desu

>>10961139
They're nice, solid additions, no complaints.
I'm having a really hard time trying to find something I didn't like about the wad in general. Trinity Temple was a bit overwhelming at the start but I ended up enjoying it. I loved AA. I also really really like the overload of colors.

good wad pack sources other than cacoawards? (good but curious about other collections)

>>10961179
https://onemandoom.blogspot.com/
http://doom.starehry.eu/

>>10961170
The first secret level was pretty shite desu, and the second one is just okay. I always skip them in replays.

>>10961283
Loved Grey Dwarf, and I think the map that gives me the most trouble on replays is Illuminati Revealed. I usually replay with mods, and no matter the combo the framerate can become unplayable very quickly.

>>10960530
>sexual innuendo
icky
>fanservicey outfits
gross

https://steamcommunity.com/games/562860/announcements/detail/1676902239539040353

>>10960596
>Stock Windows Soundfont
According to a comment by the uploader.

>>10961410
Are Shelly's world sprites blonde in mirror mode?

>>10961414
Sadly no. That would be cool. I know where to look if I ever want them changed, though.

This map can eat a dick. It wastes your time with 20 minutes of easy bullshit before throwing you at a bunch of instakill barrel traps.

>>10961410
Just swap the 'red' for 'black', throw her a shoulder guard, a circlet, a giant warhammer, a whip & a giant machine gun and give me a Rachel fps pls. The Vigoor Empire would make an excellent level set for Doom.

>>10961410
Well, if they're not using those designs they won't mind if someone else were to nick them and make their own fps with them, for double or triple the best sales Bombshell ever got?

Lmao @ subhuman jannie here deleting my reviews of games all inspired by Quake, kill yourself my man.

>>10961137
Uh, y-yeah, while playing doom or quake...

>>10961607
"Milk is for pussies, I eat Chex with Mountain Dew Code Red"

it'd be cool if doom had like an ai assistant that would help you figure out mazes and remember where that door was

>>10961624
Or you use your eyes

>>10961624
>>10961625
I feel like going forward humans are going to become less and less capable of performing even the most basic of tasks without an AI wrangling them. Like, even conversations will be replaced with video game style dialogue selections where the AI has written a list of statements for you to choose from.

>>10961624
There are already mods for people as tragic as you.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=61643#p1068272
https://jp.itch.io/doom-secret-finder

>>10959334
Where are the news? Previous thread has like a dozen of tagged posts >>10950858

How are you intended to kill the archvile you are locked in here with? Telefragging him is really inconsistent and you can't DPS him to death before he explodes you. I had to reload a save like six times before I telefragged, there is no way that's intended unless the devs wanted people to savescum with this bullshit random knowledge check sudden death shit. (TNT Map 18)

>>10961642
OP was a lazy shit, as you can tell by the [embed][embed][embed]

>>10961410
desu I only like her '97, '03 and '18 iterations, the rest are kinda ugly.

>>10961636
>Agreed, I feel like we're playing with fire with this new tech and it's gonna bite us in the ass if we're not careful
>[Intelligence 1/6] What a bunch of pedantic faggotry
>[Terrifying Presence] Shut the fuck up, faggot.
>[Speech 30] Alternatively, I see AI as a supplementary force. A well-read human coupled with AI could very well amplify their intelligence
>[Science 80] 223 Birch Wood Ave., Arenac County, Michigan

>>10961607
wolf3d wishes it was chex quest

>>10961636
HAH
>he doesn't know

>>10961727
>you can come to my stand-up night when you're off your period
oh yeah that'll hook her

>>10961412
Thanks a lot anon, been trying to get this shit to sound like it for days now.

>>10961645
Unless the doors stay open, only with bfg or plasma. Any archie is a pushover with sufficient space to maneuver and cover to hide behind. For a pro strat, hug the walls to minimize the imminent damage. I have no idea why that works.

>>10961648
That's modest. Thread title is a statement of an arrogant, thread sabotaging, in the complete sense of the word - a damn nigger. Hope he goes back where he strayed from.

>>10961826
Beggars can't be choosers

>>10961829
Careful with the basement stairs twiglard, you may break your legs

>>10961836
Calm down aspie, you can just learn to make threads yourself if it bothers you so much. It's not that hard.

>>10961669
Maybe the AI were the demons

>>10961857
I think a few wads like Doom 404 do the demons being AI or in the computers.

>>10961884
Wasn't that a thing in the Doom novel or it might have been aliens.

>>10961930
One of them did, yeah,

There was that other book that I've never found a translation for.

GMOTAbros..

>>10961953
Medieval? So timetravel? Like Eternal Doom? (Not to be confused with Doom Eternal)

>>10961961
it's heretic eternal

>>10961953
>Doom
>Medieval inspired

So Hexen?

>>10961669
I feel that it will have some genuine utility for some specific things, but that its overall societal impact will be vastly overblown, and that the 2020s specifically will go down in history as a time where bottom feeding grifters and clueless corporate suits both went out of their way to try to exploit the fuck out of it, the suits vastly overestimating the actual practical applications.

Art being the hot button aspect, which includes videogames, I foresee AI stuff as being a way to do things on a relatively tiny budget (and also for conjuring up quick placeholders before committing to a concept), but that this will be fairly widely recognized, and largely regarded as cheap, thus not particularly desirable.

>>10961979
>but that its overall societal impact will be vastly overblown
It's been overhyped for everything, it's as dumb as the chat bots from 20 years back

>>10961979
Yah I feel like AI is gonna get people to raise their standards. Any artist with creativity has nothing to fear.

built for BFG

>>10961995
>>10960874

>>10961979
So far the only good thing to come outta AI was making Spongebob characters sing IRA or Yugoslav War songs.

>>10962000
Oh yeah that reminds me of AI voices having a stroke
https://youtu.be/SAKYgzTQ3qU

>>10960861
>gauntlet style mod that turns enemies into enemy spawners

Is there a mod that does this? I once did do a BigDoom playthough of doom2 with Zmovement and 10x and it was pretty cool, a gauntlet style spawner mod would be better.

>>10961135
Should've known that thread would move to the different phase of the cycle. I really should look into getting some of those 4Chan extensions. lol
>>10961117
>>Thanks for the QRD. Muchos appreciados amigo.
No problem.
>>Ah man like it feels so weird.
Yep. It's been weird for many years when it comes to them and moreso in recent times. Part of it is natural, but something still feels off.
>>I will dig deeper into this later.
If you do, it's probably best to try and do that on /v/ (as bad as it is). Surely it would be okay to redirect a couple of idiots (myself included) to a link there. I don't think I would worry too much about retards derailing the conversation since they're more likely to lurk somewhere more modern. No idea about the state of retro threads there.
>>10961141
>Did they just fail to gib the boom shoot reviewers their required 30 shekels or something?
Honestly, I would assume they just give out the keys for free and that's it. To be fair, you have to kind of commend them for doing so without asking for any favoritism. Which is clear when you look at some of other recent releases.
>A half like even with a ton of issues should have breezed right through just on the novelty of not being another wise cracking generic trend chasing 'insincere' boom shoot.
You can actually get some of that if you dig a bit deeper. I've seen some smaller channels and normal players having an attitude similar to that.
>>10961410
>>10961664
>the rest are kinda ugly.
Vast majority of her older concepts have that "drawn for and/or by 14 y/o porn addict" vibe. Too cringe. Not saying designs like that can't work at all and it is in a way subjective though.

>>10961979
>but that this will be fairly widely recognized, and largely regarded as cheap, thus not particularly desirable.
It's desirable to the people in the position to do the most damage, the suits.

It's why all the corporate assholes are all for it, they think it's going to slash their costs and make them all the more profit.
>>10962031
>Is there a mod that does this?
It's basic ass Decorate, so plenty.

>>10962073
>Vast majority of her older concepts have that "drawn for and/or by 14 y/o porn addict" vibe. Too cringe. Not saying designs like that can't work at all and it is in a way subjective though.
You sound like that wayforward employee. Everyone involved in the industry sounds like such a goddamn feminist. And i'm censoring myself so the jannie won't remove my post.

>>10960194
Nobody asked.

>>10961410
this is my favorite one. the red notes and sunglasses are very on point if you want her to be basically Dukette, which she should have been.
i still her the final designs especially in the 2015 game.

>>10962130
High wasted panties are awful.

>>10962132
Did I really just say wasted and not waisted oh my god

>>10962132
eh maybe. her crop top should have been red too

>>10962137
maybe you're a little high-wasted yourself

>>10962137
WASTED
JOB FAILED

>Love Quake since it's release
>Only gets better every year, one of the few games I still come back to regularly next to Super Metroid
>In almost 30+ years of trying to share the magic with other people, none of them care

I can't even get anyone to try the game. People my age just ask why I'd want to play something so old when we had it growing up, younger people think it's a cool retro shooter but too antiquated for their tastes. /vr/ is one of the few places that genuinely likes the game. /blogpost

>>10961410
I like the 03 and current ones but Shelly could get a bit more cake and the outfit tactically shrunk a little. I think I saw some art where someone put her in a Lara Croft Tomb Raider Underworld diving suit and that was excellent.

>>10962226
Pic is me every time I go to that level. It's cool that they messed around with non-standard level concepts if only to test the feasibiloty of puzzle maps and enrichen the doom map palate but when I get around to it will to play decreases a lot.

>>10962253
I was thinking about this while I was out today. Try showing them Arcane Dimensions.

>>10962132
True. Didn't look good back then, doesn't look good now.

>>10962132
Disagree, but all styles are subjective to body type.

>>10962106
Agree.
>"Just go watch porn!"
Fuck off, the succubi enemies in my game are gonna have big and bare tits just for the hell of it, I'm sick of all these neopuritans and I wish them death.

Hell, maybe the male demons will walk around with big flaccid dongs, to make them come off as more savage and animalistic, it'd have a psychological effect on some players while doubling as eyecandy for the bara crowd.

>>10962137
Lmao.

>>10961624
Do you have like actual problems with memory and orientation? That's completely unnecessary for a game of Doom's scope, the levels are very rarely of the size and complexity that this would have any purpose.

Instead, just use a basic notebook and pencil, or a basic writing app for your phone.

>>10962324
One of my fondest video game memories was playing the original NES Zelda and drawing my own map made of squares, arrows, and notes.

>>10961624
Press M on the automap to mark important spots.

How can I increase weapon damage in Quake? Wanna play some Underdark Overbright, but not in mood for kiting with shotgun. Is there a console command or a weapon mod to make it 2x damage? Or just make shotgun stronger? Basic googling is failing me, showing only reddit

>>10962106
>You sound like that wayforward employee.
Who? Fuck no. lol
>Everyone involved in the industry sounds like such a goddamn feminist.
I'm just not into overly large tits and ass. You know, the bimbo type and that's exactly what you had there.

>>10962350
Stop trying to play Quake like it's Doom.

>>10962357
>I'm just not into overly large tits and ass. You know, the bimbo type and that's exactly what you had there.
Basedbasedbased

>>10962357
Bimbos are life.

>>10962253
I occasionally can get one of my friends over to play Doom or UT via LAN but haven’t got him into Quake coop yet. He’s seen some gameplay of mods like Mjolnir and really liked what he saw, though, amazed that they’re Quake maps.
>>10962350
You could try playing maps through the Reliquary mod. It’s based on Copper and might even work with Underdark Overbright, I may even test it out myself later. It’s a small boost to some of the weapons, but it’s not like Russian overkill or other OP Doom mods so you’ll still be kiting.

>>10962357
Bimbo is less big tits and ass and more the stupid face shit like the overly applied makeup and lipstick. Also more like ridiculous t and a to a point where it stops being attractive and more grotesque. Most of those were simply big but not really ever grotesque.

what are some tips that you would give to new DOOM players? Preferably ones that aren't immediately obvious. Just small things to keep in mind.
I have played for a long while now but lately I've been replaying wads with pistol start, and I'm trying to become better and more efficient at the game.
until very recently i didn't know
>the first two shots of the chaingun (as well as the first shot of the handgun) are always accurate, meaning it's more appropriate to tap fire when sniping off enemies

>>10962473
Have I got just the video for you.

https://youtu.be/HJcf0aOwmiA?si=MMqXamwRB6ry1wR8

>>10962459
>the stupid face shit like the overly applied makeup and lipstick.
Oh yeah. And there's that too. It all forms the stereotype.
>Most of those were simply big but not really ever grotesque.
Maybe. Still too big to me. I like 'em smaller and cuter.

>>10962473
Revenants may be intimidating if you try to dodge away from their projectiles like most other monsters, but if you shed your fear and move towards them more aggressively, the limited turning speed of their homing rockets becomes much more exploitable.
Damaging floors hurt you at the same rate the weapon sways left and right while you're running, you can use this to minimize or even avoid floor damage completely.
You can easily dodge Imps, Cacos, and Nobles by ear. If you know the general direction of these commonly-spammed enemies in a large area, just listen for the sound and you don't have to move more than a tap to dodge each projectile while focusing on something else.

>>10962473
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsCqLQJ1EOc

all doomguy had to do was trust the company

>>10962473
Berserk pack is a permanent buff till the end of the map, even when the screen is not red anymore the buff is still active.

would you trade the bfg for a chainshotgun
a chaingun that fires shotgun shells
if you do 50% of all cell pickups become shell pickups and your shell capacity increases to 200
would you do that
it's a bit weak for slaughter but for general use would you

>>10962473
>I have played for a long while now but lately I've been replaying wads with pistol start, and I'm trying to become better and more efficient at the game.
Are you having more fun this way because that's all that matters really.

>>10961624
It should be like the radio in Metal Gear.

>>10962473
Shoot revenants to the midsection since their hitbox does not register the head. Also revenants are easily stunned by the chaingun so you can stunlock them consistently with that.
Pain Elementals' skull children will be aborted if you get close to the PE and eat it's ass.

>>10959334
Oldish news at this point, but new Doom game leaked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riZb7yRinQs&t=331s&pp=ygUSZG9vbSB0aGUgZGFyayBhZ2Vz

Warning: this guy talks like a fuckin' dillweed.

>>10962473
Since you're pistol starting, an important thing to do in maps that don't give you proper weapons is to run past big enemies, to get better weapons to kill them more efficiently.
If you're playing with infinite height, there's a fun trick you can do with rockets by shooting at walls above/below them to hurt them with the infinitely tall splash damage
Rockets are very inefficient at killing cybers and masterminds due to their immunity to splash damage. SSG and cell weapons deal full damage and should be used instead.
To deal full damage with the BFG you need to be very aggressive; when the balls impact (lol), the enemies need to be in your view, and the closer they are the more damage they receive.

>gzdoom has options for everything from the icon killing its monsters to fall damage for some fucking reason to molesting the hud in a million ways to multiple quicksaves to a million things no one will touch in 99.9% of games
>still need a mod just to match other ports' -pistolstart cvar
why does the most "advanced" port force you to reject modernity, RETVRN TO IDCLEV

ALRIGHT YOU MOTHERFUCKERS. IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!

>>10960798
Doom Ramon Eternal. For extra jank, search for the initial release in wayback machine.

Breath of the DOOM mod

>>10962654
I've been doing more brainstorming for Kustam's ammo/heat stuff. I'm gonna try a system soon where instead of carrying a supply of bullets to reload the gun, I'm gonna try a system where you directly drain heat out to load bullets into the gun. This could either be a big brain epiphany or an incredibly stupid idea. But damn I wanna try it.

Besides that, I also put together a WIP for Blaz's mini HUD

>>10962665
The wide Blaz reminds me of Warcraft 2 unit icons, or the NetNavi icon in the later Megaman Battle Network games.

>>10962654
I was reskinning some Enyo enemies through Noesis, ran into this issue where the idle frames are all shiny. It doesn't bother me much but I'm sure it would annoy someone else.

>>10962719
Possibly an issue with surface normals being raped. QMDL very annoyingly does the same thing.
Replacing the skins via Quake 1 model viewer or maybe Adquedit (I *think* it can do that, don't remember) would be better. Just make sure to use the pre-fucked models.

>>10962653
Didn't it just add a pistol start option?

>>10962751
yes, but why take the time to check anything when you can farm (you)s bitching about bad chicken man port on 4chan

>>10962751
No shit, they did, a while ago even, but every time I searched it just showed people talking about the workarounds. My googlefu is weak, my honor is tarnished, but at least I have my gz pistol start

>>10962731
Easy fix, made my day, thanks bud

>>10962759
>>10962719
not gonna lie shiny was kind of a neat aesthetic

>>10962757
To be fair, it did take a really long time to add that, and it lagged behind the other ports in that regard.

>>10962757
>farms (you)s by white knighting an autistic german and assuming bad faith
much better

>>10962350
>>10962445
Underdark Overbright with a big chunky super shotgun. I'll let you know if I run into issues.
>>10962762
It's kind of a cool mechanical highlight, yeah.

>>10962363
Yeah, gave it up for now and instead tred Heretic ep3 with High Noon Drifter first, than switched to Guncaster. Guncaster is quite good with Heretic mobs if you tone done recoil and other over the top features. It seems that I never played Ep3 before, don't remember these levels at all, textures and decorations are nice there.

>>10962926
I must say guncaster's weaponry definitely feels great to use. Nice meaty sounds and matching animations.

>>10959280
>That's kinda crazy that he scrubbed his own uploads. I played a bit of it and it's solid. Could use a bit more health, but I'm using a track-nubbin on a laptop atm so that probably didn't help. Was still fun though.
I didn't take a proper notice before, but he apparently maps only exclusively on Deepsea, for a decade at least. Send a play demo to his mail, he will be glad.

>>10962969
https://www.sbsoftware.com/
Damn, it even received some sort of maintenance update the last year

>>10962981
>>10962969
I've always wondered if it was viable to do a mapping thing where everybody uses a specific editor like that or DETH/ZETH.

It's not that bad.

>>10962997
Nah it's alright. Not much reason to play it in 2024 other than novelty though.

>>10961135
>MФNSTER

>>10962817
Looks good on that pic, just what mod is this shotgun from?

>>10962357
Bimbos in rl have more soul and brains then bluehairs.
They also have tits and asses at all, unlike bluehairs who aren't obese (which bimbos also aren't).

>>10962357
Nothing wrong with big tits and ass

>>10963162

>pain elemental spawns such that it's immediately attacked by a cacodemon, causing it to sperg out and start spawning dozens of lost souls
RAHHHHHHHHHHHH IM GONNA FUCKING KILL YOU DEV

>>10962324
>maybe the male demons will walk around with big flaccid dongs

I remember coming across a thread on the ZDoom forums where a guy showed off his sprite work. One of the creatures he made was an imp variant without the spikes and with a bird beak, which he also did an undead variant of.

However, for some weird reason, he gave the thing a penis. It was even visible in one of the away-facing attack frames.

Oddly enough, no one in the thread seemed to notice or at least didn't acknowledge it.

>>10962106
who managed to stumble into wayforward with a hateboner for sexy girls?

>>10963265
The culture war kids from /pol/, mostly.

>>10963265
Yeah really.

>>10962106
You say, as in the same post you concede defeat.
They don't fear the harmless, and you deserve what you tolerate. Reality isn't sentiments and feelgoods, reality is power and results.
Do to them before they do to you.

>>10962946
Yes, this SSG is good, fighting Maulotaur with it were satisfying.

>>10963162
W-why does she have something in her m-mouth?

>>10963092
It's from Reliquary. The pak is a pair of maps that also buffs/changes the weapons. I'm using it to replay Underdark Overbright for a few.

>>10962532
>14 bullets with each shot
>tapping keeps them from spreading
>or just hold the button and turn a room into ground meat
hell yes because I love the shotgun

>>10963381
It's totally just bubblegum, bro.

>>10962532
Make it look like Serious Sam 2's shotgun.

>>10963413
This design is so stupid it wraps around to being awesome.

>>10963413
please no

>>10963413
I prefer this.

>>10962475
huh, I didn't know about the arch-vile wall damage thing. I wonder why that happens.

>>10963591
That also works.

What about a shotgun but it shoots out it's pellets one at a time at a rapid rate?

>>10963626
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEu9LLQpOF8
Like this?

>>10962665
>>10962698
If anything, it's closer to units icons from original Warcraft. They're technically wider than the ones in the sequel: 27x19 in War1 & 46x38 in War2 (higher resolution, but lesser width). Even the art style of Blaz's icon is closer to Orcs & Humans, I would say.
>>10963135
Nobody even mentioned blue hair, anon.
>>10963162
I didn't say there's something wrong with them. They can be big in a good way, at least sometimes.

>>10963162
where's the original image?

>>10963647
It's been posted before but probably not for a very long time.

>>10963631
I was thinking more a gun that shot them in one long chain

>>10959715
>Most of us are likely older than you and have played high quality/inspired mods that modern commercial indie retro first person shooters don't hold a candle to and thus aren't worth loving, especially being sold.
you are aware that most of these shooters are made by those exact same modders right?

>>10963707
You do often end up with it where they put their heart into the mod they made for fun and then the commercial thing is comparatively lacking in some ways.

Oh fuck, I hope he's ok.

>>10963740
he'll be fine anon he's just taking a lil nap

>>10959334
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/143161/
MBF64 released- Ports Doom 64 assets into the original games.
Don't forget to add stuff from the last news post, next OP.

>>10962698
>or the NetNavi icon in the later Megaman Battle Network games.
Bingo. I was looking at those and I was struck with how good they looked and how insanely space efficient they are.

Almost done with Quake 2's Call of the Machine and I really really enjoy it, so glad I didn't leave Quake 2 64 out of all things to be the last official part I play of the Remaster. I also like that it's a collection of ''shorter'' episodes than 1 really long quest because when you start again with just a blaster and have to rebuild the arsenal there's a lot more satisfaction to gearing up again and you have to play with the earlygame weapons as well. Very detailed, very high quality, good usage of assets and enies from the expansions packs too.

>>10963381

I'm playing Quake on Steam. Apparently it's a remaster. The gameplay is fun enough, and Quake is one of the oldest games I can find that I can have some fun playing. The remaster looks much better than the original, and maybe someday I'll play the original, but not now. I said I'm having some fun with it, but I'm not having a lot of fun. It's fine I guess, and it's an absolute classic. It's great, actually, and I'm not regretting the time I spend on it.

In comparison, I can't take Super Mario World, Doom, or like I said, most games before Quake seriously. I liked a lot of platformers 20 years ago, but nowadays, I don't find myself playing platformers much.

>>10963908
The remaster and original are both bundled together on Steam.

>>10963915
why not? doom imo is a flawless, timeless game. there are no superfluous weapons or enemies.
hundreds of years into the future and people will still be making megawads.

>>10963951
>there are no superfluous weapons
Okay I love Doom but you know you're full of shit when you say that. The pistol exists just to make everything else look better in comparison.

>>10962532
you've given me an idea for a partial conversion/doom campaign - trading weapons made me think of cave story where you have a limited arsenal and sometimes can trade one weapon for another at limited occasions or give two to someone to craft a new one, you could trade bfg for something else much more powerful at the time, but if you hold your horses and wait you can get something even better.
I'd have to use Zdoom family ports to make this but it could be a cool hub based hexen/strifelike megawad where you'd explore a large location and unlock weapons on the way
Grinding EXP for dmg would be stupid and make balancing encounters not fun - I'd opt for something like Julius Mode in Aria of Sorrow where you just get a boost in stats for each boss(or some other milestone) you pass, and then sort monsters into loose tiers so you'd feel the boost. I'd make every enemy encounter in two variations:
>One when you visit that place for the first time
>Second reduced for every time you come back
This way I'd avoid the trap of Powerslave/Hexen where it's so tedious to backtrack - additionally the stat boosts will make dealing with backtracking quicker

Trying to remember the name of a Doom TC that was a brawler like Final Fight / Streets of Rage. Anyone know?

>>10963951
I'd say that Doom's gameplay, when filled out with Doom 2's additions, is absolutely extremely solid. I will say though that the pistol is superfluous, it doesn't really have a reason to continue existing once you've got the chaingun.

>>10964094
Action Doom 2?

>>10964096
Ahh that's it, thanks for the prompt response.

>>10964095
>I will say though that the pistol is superfluous, it doesn't really have a reason to continue existing once you've got the chaingun.
It has it's uses on extreme ammo economy wads, and obviously on a lot of pistol start wads you don't even get the chaingun every level.

>>10963951
flawless my ass
>there are no superfluous weapons
- berserk-less fist
- pistol
- shotgun in d2
>or enemies
- knights and barons
- spectres

>>10964185
>- knights and barons
Say hello to Sigil 2 and all of it's cacos.

>>10963937
i like the remaster and have no nostalgia for the original because i never played it

>>10964162
>and obviously on a lot of pistol start wads you don't even get the chaingun every level
Gonna be real, that shit is just fucking torture. Maybe you don't give it on the first level, but Jesus the Pistol in Doom is so "dry," it's so unsatisfying and dull to use that I don't think there's very much excuse to make the player have to use it for any extended duration.

The Chaingun isn't exactly a superweapon or anything, it's a chore of a gun to use for any monster more sturdy than a Pinky, but it's generally practical for all the low level foes. Please just give the player a Chaingun if you intend to have him use bullet ammo, for fun's sake.

>>10964185
shotgun in d2
The shotgun is super useful.

>>10964185
>fist
absolute last ditch failsafe so you can do something if you run out of all ammo and there isn't berserk
>pistol
starting weapon, limited usability so you're not punching out the gate but crap to encourage you to get shit
>shotgun
ammo efficient mid range, closest to true superfluous
>spectres
when used correctly (dark areas, software rendering helps) they can actually be a threat and change of pace
>nobles
barons are built like mini-bosses, makes sense to make a little brother so you have an angry meat wall you can pepper in to soak up SS shots without taking 5 hours to kill each (until custom .wads use barons like big imps™ but that's here nor there)

>>10964185
>shotgun in d2
Oh god, it's this retardation again.

>>10964225
>>10964243
At least you can always tell the people who got spoiled by the SSG in Map02 and the general over-abundance of shells.

Strange Aeons seems to be missing for a few walls now that I'm in episode 2.

>>10964253
missing textures*

>>10964253
>>10964258

>>10963951
>>10964185
>there are no superfluous weapons
- berserk-less fist
- pistol
- shotgun in d2
- chaingun in d2
- plasma rifle when the map gives you a bfg

>>10964262
>Ultimate Doom Recommended; Doom 2 Compatible
My guess is you're using Doom 2 as your IWAD

>>10964265
>- shotgun in d2
>- chaingun in d2
These have their use, even when you have the SSG.

>>10964267
Oh yeah that's prob it then.

>>10964270
If you want to keep your save compatible, you should be able to load doom.wad as a pwad before Strange Aeons to fix the missing textures

>>10964251
I like the shotguns in Doom and Q2 more with just one ore two more pellets added. They still have their niche, the double shotguns are still better up-close, it's just a bit of insurance against damage/spread RNG and makes them feel better to shoot. Q2's shotgun count going from 12 to 13 feels particularly perfect.

>>10963430
Please yes.

>>10964272
Found a faster fix actually:
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/graphics/d1gfxd2

It's just missing textures from Doom 1 that are being used in Doom 2. It's suggested to use this with Doom 2 in the read me.

>>10964265
>- shotgun in d2
>- chaingun in d2
>superfluous

>>10964280
Heretic/Hexen remake never.

>>10964280
>>10964417
Also, I just noticed that this image uses the beta design of the Wraithverge, back when it was called the Justifier.

>>10964417
So many alleged successors, and not one of them any good... can't even nail the look

Anyone familiar with GunBonsai that has an idea for an interesting gun/player modification I should code? I think a lot of the low hanging fruit I've got already. Pic related, Doppleganger Shots.

This guy is an AI, right?
Nobody is that good, right?
I'm not just terrible at video games, right?

https://youtu.be/Kwevyzmn-iY

>>10964598
Only thing I can think of is a delayed projectile one where they spawn in front of you and sit there for a certain amount of seconds or until you hit reload.
>>10964608
>TAS
Bro, it's not AI, you're just a dummy.

>>10964608
>TAS
what do you think, anon?

>>10964608
>he can't no hit first time clear a 17k slaughtermap
never gonna make it

>>10964624
AI is too retarded to do TAS by itself

Is there a mod for hexen that makes it less cryptic and complex? more like heretic i guess.
I've tried playing it a few times already and i just give up around the swamp levels and the spikes in the sand because its exhausting and not very fun.

>>10964676
Would this count?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qv6UVOQ0F44
>11 years ago

>>10964615
Yeah I think I might do something like that but they go in a sort of parabolic arc above the player's head, then all go down together after a delay like a flashy mecha effect. I think I can achieve this even without reload by just waiting till the player finally stops firing for a delay. Great anons think alike though, ty.

What do you think about chanced cursed mods that are applied either from the start or over time forcibly? These mods would work antagonistically to most of the simple mods.
Also considering something similar to that where the mods offer big penalties for big rewards, to change weapons behavior significantly. Already have one that does return damage to the player for a big bonus in damage, but thinking about more in that vein.

The Nightdive ports of Quake 1 and 2 are great

>>10964710
Q2's is excellent, but Q1's is merely adequate for newcomers.

>>10964716
It's probably a bit better than the one 'patch' from the Steam forums that replaced the binaries with Darkplaces.

>>10964710
too bright

>>10964185
Nothing is superfluous in Doom and I have a hard time imagining someone thinking that after playing through Doom 1 and 2 and a few other popular megawads on UV. Your list reeks of 10 hour video essay retrospective by literally whos on Youtube.

>>10964716
Doesn't the Q1 Remaster also come with the original original quake so you can still use sourceports?

>>10964836
Yes, but proper source ports can run nightdive's remaster anyway.

What is the best way to play Malice for Quake? Any good singleplayer total conversions for Quake 2?

>>10964868
https://www.moddb.com/mods/malice-refined

https://www.moddb.com/games/the-amc-tc/news/amc-squad-45-interim-edition-released

AMC just released a new 4.5 version

>>10959334
AMC Squad v4.5 released
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BPymUhRWbPfPZCZYilxcUoDh4Svr6r8Q/view?usp=sharing

Is this a bot or some youtubecancer mentioned it? Basically same thing.

>>10963740
>>10963742
I guess you could say he's sleeping with the fishes now

>working on a map in UDB
>machines crashes and forces an update on me
>despite manually turning off windows updates
>30 mins of work lost

Every day I inch closer to Linux.

>>10965078
>>machines crashes and forces an update on me
How are update issues even real, just turn your computer off when you go to bed.

>>10965078
>Every day I inch closer to Linux.
Just do it. Pretty much the only shit that doesn't work in wine/proton is modern multiplayer games with cancerous anticheat.

>>10965078
I took the plunge last June. No regrets, and I'm a complete dumb ass, I've managed to adapt mostly well.
Still need help compiling shit from time to time though, but it doesn't come up as often as you might think

>>10965078
>>30 mins of work lost
Remember children, the save button exists for a reason.

>>10965086
>turn your computer off
modern computers don't turn off, they just trick you by turning the gamer LEDs off then running updates all night long

>>10965102
I hope you're making that up but I just don't know anymore...

>>10962665
I just wanted to give those of you that were curious about that idea I mentioned here and whether or not if it was a big brain epiphany, or a stupid idea.

It was a stupid idea. So I'm currently labbing out a new plan where triggering the manual vent mode heals Kustam, but if you're wanting ammo, you're gonna need to shoot things with the laser or smack things in the face with the repulsor wave thing. I need to get my shit together.

>>10965102
This is why I flick the power switch roughly 10 seconds after I turn it off. Windows doesn't get to choose when it updates, I DO.

>>10965105
>The Fast Startup feature in Windows 10 allows your computer start up faster after a shutdown. When you shut down your computer, Fast Startup will put your computer into a hibernation state instead of a full shutdown. Fast Startup is enabled by default if your computer is capable of hibernation

>>10965130
You can turn that off
Last time I had to enter BIOS to turn on hardware virtualisation on a laptop I was tearing my hair out wondering why I couldn't from startup; that was why

>>10965127
Windows has become so efficient at installing updates that it can do it using nothing but the residual charge left in the capacitors.

>>10965102
I'm not saying to turn it off for the purposes of having it be off, I'm saying to turn it off because that will prompt it to install any updates it may have downloaded in a user-controlled fashion, rather than ignoring it until it starts harassing you. Also the process of preparing for manual shutdown causes you to save and close anything you may have been working on.
This is good practice no matter what OS you're on.

>>10965151
I have never installed an update on my Commodore 128D and have had 0 issues with it.

>>10965161
Your Commodore isn't connected to the internet and exposed to security vulnerabilities. That's the core reason for regular updates.

>>10965168
sounds like an issue for routerdevs, not osdevs

>>10963601
the attack has two parts, a direct damage zap and a small explosion that can also hurt others. The explosion's origin is a few pixels in front of your feet (facing the archvile) which is far enough that you can tuck it inside a low wall like in the video

>>10928763
I'd say making Malice less buggy more fun to play is more important to get done than whatever VR2 was currently supposed to be for now.
>I keep forgetting that for the current iteration of VR2, both addon's shield items are now actual gear that you need to equip instead of a powerup. That's just what I get for only coming here once in a few months for a status update methinks.

>>10951151
Lemme guess, AMCsquad update NEVER EVER?

>>10963591
>>10963413
Serfs.

>>10963707
>you are aware that most of these shooters are made by those exact same modders right?
Like...what?

>>10965075

>>10963908
Check out Arcane Dimensions and Alkaline at minimum anon.

>>10965108
Webm related here. So now when you trigger the vent mode, lasering monsters gives you ammo, and you can't charge kicks anymore. Instead if you have enough heat, you'll just do a super kick. That part I like a lot and I feel that's the way to go there for sure.

>>10965197
Say what Zestorer map is that, pretty please?

>>10963915
I think Super Mario World, and hell any Mario game for that matter, taps into that innate human desire to run, to be athletic (hence the theme). Think of it in that regard anon.

>>10964094
>>10964096
That sounds wild wtf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbzch3PD2GU
This is amazing. Holy shit.
>>10965213
Shit anon I'm vaguely certain it's from the campaign, couldn't tell you which. I specify the campaign in that it's not one of the custom maps made with Zer.

I'm trying to run Guncaster and it just... won't work. It loads, then minimizes the window, then stops loading with the loading screen just there. It's last in load order as instructed

Does it ONLY run on GZDoom 4.7.1? I'm using 4.10.

it's DOOM but better

>>10965206
Gi

>>10965247
I may not be a gun scientist but I don't think that's how you hold a rifle.

>>10965249
But why else would the barrel have a heat shield? To look cool?

>>10965249
He's cocking the gun for his next shot

>>10965195
>Lemme guess, AMCsquad update NEVER EVER?

there was just literally a massive new release today, a 4.5 update which has a ton of quality of life shit with it

>>10965249
It's to stop barrel climb when mag dumping

>>10965195
Nah, I was bringing up an eventual non-hypothetical

>>10965195
Nah, I was bringing up an eventual non- hypothetical

>>10965195
Nah, I was bringing up an eventual nonhypothetical

>>10965195
fucking spoilers.
Death of the author could make updates impossible. There.
Stupid fucking website

>>10965248
Been really beating my head against the wall with Kustam here to make sure he doesn't suck. Don't have much else to report other than what I just posted here. Some of the feedback I've gotten from people has been generally positive, though I had one guy mention he feels the baton isn't very appealing in combat.

Honestly, I'm not sure if I want to make it too good. Kustam's the range guy, after all. Though the Rocket Launcher tier upgrade giving his baton strikes a slow AOE is pretty goddamn strong.

>>10965078
UDB recently implemented autosaving. Unless you didn't update UDB in the past 2 months. You might still have your lost progress.

Dissolution of Eternity is pretty tricky. Making me realize how challenged I am at Quake.

>>10962226
Funny how there was practically a race between speedrunners regarding this map.
It's still an awful map.

>>10965253
What does it add?
Looks like it no longer have hitscan enemies. Bestiary, and a bunch of more stuff

>>10965359
I like parts of the chasm, just not the actual chasm.

Does anyone remember the name of the weapon mod where you played an older female marine? It was quite overpowered, I remember one of the melee slot weapons was a power loader exosuit from Aliens.

>>10965381
that, some new enemies for ep4, some new weapons (Alofs shotgun for Rusty) FMVs, bug fixes, some balance changes, air strikes and air drops .etc .etc

>>10965391
Lt. Typhon

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=64378

>>10965419
Yes, that is the one! Thank you!

>>10965078
>despite manually turning off windows updates
The level of bullshit you have to go through to get automatic Windows updates to not restart themselves on Windows 10 and up is fucking ridiculous, shit acts more like a virus than anything.

>>10965236
>Furrycaster

>>10965264
>Imagine dying before completing your megamod project
And that's exactly why I don't even try modding anything myself

Captcha = S0JAC5

>>10965273
>Pic
Uh... s-something wrong, Kustam?

>>10962357
She's supposed to be a buxum blonde bombshell. Like her namesake.

>>10965078
You disabled shit like this?
https://old.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/7xxup9/permanently_disabling_windows_10_upgrade/?rdt=59527
Or this?
https://www.michaelhorowitz.com/KillingWindowsUpdate.php
Also you could get a firewall to kill telemetry.
https://github.com/henrypp/simplewall

Some days you know a wad is going to be weird.

>>10965865
it's one of those devil may cry forcefields
Neat

>>10965871
Nah it's just a portal, though that's a pretty fucking cool idea for doing locked doors.

>Demonic Bribery

>>10965558
Although I hate Guncaster's protagonist with a passion, I miss when people could write fiction or base something around dragons and it would end up being cool or badass instead of terminally cringe. Furries/scalies have permanently ruined dragons for everyone it seems. Can't have shit in /d/etroit.

>>10965970
I miss the days before shit just got piled on by those disgusting fuckers.

I was on a server with somebody who posted a proof of concept for a Werewolf - The Apocalypse inspired TC and the fuckers descended on the dude for like a week straight so he canned it.

>>10965985
>if only you knew how bad things really are

>>10965352
>recently
Nigga it's been years since it started generating those .bak files. Or is it something new?

yaaay doom thread

>>10966091
more like dumb thread

>DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc)
Seed this shit or at least upload on 1drive.

>>10966120
Bruh all the original IWADs are available at archive org.

>>10966126
There's more resources than the original IWADs on the torrent, like mods, maps, etc.

>>10966129
I don't care about that at all.

>>10965985
>Werewolf - The Apocalypse
Pick furry game, win furry prizes.

>>10966129
That stuff you get at doomworld or idgames, or even moddb.

>>10965078
I just had a crashy washy into 30 minutes plus of updating as well. And I assembled a linux pc last year hto avoid this shit. I get best of the wanglows world and the linux world. I suggest making the switch asap, or as I do, having one pc running linux and another on wangblows.

Just finished Quake 2 Call of the Machine today. It was really good Quake 2 content. A lot of kinda ''slaughtery'' sections with a bit questionable monster placement but most of those levels were really good. The bossfights were also pretty well choreographed and had healthbars which was a welcome change.

Definitely recommending anons give COTM a shot if you haven't already. Each of the 'episodes' is nicely bite-sized so you can do 1 or 2 in an evening pretty conveniently.

>>10966067
Backup files are different from autosave files, backup files are only generated when a wad is saved, but the autosave files are generated every couple minutes while the map is open.

>>10966182
Ah. Neat, then.
Still shouldn't prevent you from compulsively Ctrl+S every few seconds.

>>10965236
Not really familiar with Guncaster limitations, I am running it on 4.11 on Delta Touch, without addon - only main pk3, and did not have any problems with it.

ZDL
Command Line
Drag n' Drop
Who you reppin'?

>>10966375
ZDL 3-1.1

Tomb of Thunder updated to v1.02

https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/tomb-of-thunder.357/