/biz/ - Business & Finance

Shaka, when the spot price fell

just added to my stack today

if after what happened yesterday you didn't auto purchase some PM you're ngmi

Cryptonerds are seething.

It's gonna be the future soon

Any gems by chance lads

Do I wait for gold spot to drop this week as the bank crisis is proved a nothingburger?

>>54050969
£6k on silver yesterday. £4k on gold today. Feels good. Fuck the banks. Going to drain it all. Stocks next.

So yeah...
You got them gilded megumin boxes yet?

fuck niggers

>>54050969
Proactively ordered a shitload over the last month so I don’t feel the need. Grabbing a tube of mercs and a random lot of 10 coins next month.

Hear crunching noise, check dog. He's chewing my weiner.

> USDC decoupling
> Bank runs
Are we gonna get flooded here in /pmg/?

>>54051008
What are those, anon?

>>54051001
I tried to get someone who's been like a distant sister to me into researching these matters
Seems they saw sense in what I was saying but also said they have some "valuables"
I sure hope they're going the distance by now

>>54051010

Yes, because it will be a nothingburger.

>>54051048
Fucking dog has a taste for coins now. Supposed to be guarding stack.

>>54051010
Based guns and metals chad.

>>54051050
It's just the SV VCs and FTX fallout from last year. The real party hasn't started yet.

>>54051108
Das rite

>>54051025
where do i get me one of those. don't say LCS because they never have based cecil rhodes coins.

>>54051048
my Philharmonic is in one of those magic frames or however you call it

>>54051108
Step up your gold game, son.

>>54051001
When my heart is breaking I can close my eyes and it's already here...

>>54051108
great scene

remember to be nice to the destitute crypto vagrants when they wander into this thread, lost and listless, in need of guidance and a concrete theory of money

>>54051295
You need capital to buy PMs. Cryptobros are better off spending their last $20 on knee pads.

>>54051162
I have a little more now but I'm still preparing my asshole to buy my first half ounce

>>54051158
They are far too rare (mintage/survival rate under 5,000 for this denomination) to show up at an LCS. The only way you're ever going to find one is a spur of the moment eBay listing or at a higher-end auction website like Heritage

>>54050969
I way overspent my budget for metals last year, I was gonna cool it a little this year, but I bought $50 face of quarters last night just for the hell of it

>>54051158
>>54051348
but if you wanted something along the lines of Rhodesia in general then you can probably find some Southern Rhodesia/base metal Rhodesia things on eBay pretty easily

>SD Bullion sold out of their 10oz bars on sale.
Is this weekend the right time to buy?

>>54051403
I'd rather be ten years too early than a minute too late.

>>54050969
going to buy from my LCS on tuesday.
praying the gold wong sky rocket until then.

Where's my JMBULLION bros at

It's only been a few months so often time I forget I'm staring at more than just a fancy, larger coin.
The import of the materials in the past, now and possibly within my lifetime - it's a strange feeling.

>>54051108
anon be careful with the bullets in your garand.
they weren't designed to use full power 30-06 and it could shatter the operating rod.
that's why there's M-2 ball ammo.

This seems like a good day to post stacks. I haven't stack posted in quite a while.

This is a very comfy thread, all the stock and crypto threads have perpetual meltdowns. I'm glad I started buying silver instead of digital funny money. Might up my purchases to 2oz a week from 1oz.

>>54051524
I got the aftermarket gas plug that's supposed to let you fire modern 30.06

However I'm scared to fire anyway because the plug is adjustable and the instructions basically "well just fiddle around with it til it *feels* right bro" instead of being specific about how far to loosen it and I'm afraid I'll destroy the mechanism

>>54050969
Smashed an order on some Canadia money. Been wanting some maples to hand out as gifts for a while now and I figure if King Kuck wants to give his nation's wealth away then I should oblige. Need to focus more on my gold stack though, it's looking slim.

>>54051295
Lads, you do realise that aswell as their markets being fake, gay and rigged, so are the metals markets? Whats likely to happen is the metals markets will just be shut down before shit really hits the fan and the price will be frozen and we'll likely not know where we are with price for months until the BRICS set up their Moscow World Standard.

What im saying is we could be lost and listless for a while too until shit sorts itself out.

>>54051646
>CSD is back down again
I'm supposed to be buying gold now.
Can I resist?

>>54050990
>3.3 Billion
whew

>>54051685
You're telling me that I'm going to have to sit here and sit on my stack and shitpost while the world burns? Tell me it ain't so anon.

>>54051685
You mean we just keep waiting and stacking until something shows itself worthy of even one of our shinies like usual?

>>54051620
which plug did you get?
i got one from garand gear that had a bunch of charts behind their product with various bullet pressures.
it worked well with commercial ammo; however it caused cycling issues when using M-2 ball, which makes sense.

i got a painted/colorized ASE for free
should i clean the paint off?

>>54051685
I literally do not care what the price of metals are in a kike run fake economy propped up by debt. I like fondling my silver and feeling comfy knowing I have a decent store of wealth that is tangible.

>>54051759
i want to get a shu coin, i just got my first 2 bu the other day
do you have the silver shu and bu as well?

>>54051008
effectively worthless except to collectors
sorry bub

Pure lithium bullion when?

lots of folks on pol pushing bank run narrative, not sure if organic or glowposts or both
oh and picrel for any glowie stoping by

>>54051777
Our motives are beyond their comprehension, they'll never understand.

>>54050969
Was half in the bag and started getting all the other shit I collect from the commonwealth and standard places that im missing for 2023. Some of these prices are garbage, cost averaging is for tubes and bars though, not random coins. Got a gilded one from that light bulb headed country. Looked cool after 8 tall boys.

>>54050969
based, I'll have a line of virgin daughters soon

>>54051799
I've got a silver bu as well. Fun little coins. Their dies weren't as advanced as western mints so each one has small variations that give them character.

>>54051705
Liberty.coin had a sale a couple days ago on fractional gold. Picked up a Veinte Pesos to push me over the 1oz mark. But I'm at like 1:400 GSR so I need to stack a few more AU ounces before I swing back to silver.

>>54051779
Yes. Acetone soak.

>>54051528
perfect stack anon. what weights are those little stubby bars in the middle, and the 2 chunkers under? those 10 oz and 100oz?

>>54051914
She is painted so poorly she is frowning about it.

>>54051528
>>54050891
I need to take a new family photo, I haven't updated the full stack in over a year.

>>54050990
>Ashley Capoot
>Capoot

I'll give it to these globalist media faggots, they have a sense of humour.

>>54051778
I got this one
https://www.fulton-armory.com/gascylinderplugsystemadjustable.aspx

Link to yours? Or could you post a pic of the chart?

>>54051939
Yeah, tens and hundreds. The flat ones on the right are also tens.

tokens

>>54051108
>when you just bought some more silver coins
>and your frens on /pmg/ say you should do a "ping" test on them
>instinctively you reach for your M1

>>54050969
I got a 1 oz silver buffalo for my bday. My 'crazy aunt' gave it to me :)

>>54052168
You could play a lot of arcade games with that

Pawn shop find, need more ladies among my stack :)

>>54052110
https://www.garandgear.com/product/ported-gas-plug/

mine is one solid piece

>Mfw no boxed Megumim yet

Is it worth stacking nickels anons?

>>54051620
with other adjustable gas systems like on an FAL or an adjustable gas block on an AR basically you open it all the way so no gas is going to the action, and then apply gas one click or fraction of a turn at a time until it functions, then go 1 more click or until you get a good ejection pattern (3 oclock on most guns). Unsure about the garand but it should go something like that. Under gassing might give you feeding issues too if the bolt recoils far enough to eject but not far enough to strip a new round out of the magazine. Good luck garandbro always wanted one havent got one yet because of boomers being shitbags and flipping CMP guns at shows for double the price.

>>54052435
I got mine via CMP, wait was long but for 600 bucks the "service" grade I got is in unbelievably great shape

>>54052434
not really.
i stick to dimes as my lowest silver content and just imagine i'll wait until the collapse for someone to give me war nickels as change.

>>54052434
I would say, not unless Congress decides to rejigger the metal content. Then you'll know that nickels will be worth something in the future, and you should have time to scoop them up at your leisure. But for now it's just not worth the space.

>>54051528
Mirin that stack so hard I saved it to give me motivation for a new height to reach in my personal dragon stash.

Can you give me a full rundown on what mints and weights those bars are, anon? I see 10 oz chunkies but what are the 100 oz’ers?

>goblins magnified by the smell of such a fat stack
>rolls of dimes at the ready
200 IQ play

>>54052434
War nickels? Don’t like the 35% vs 90% junk.

Nickel nickels? Got a bag next to the copper pennies. They’re 12.5 cents each and are looking to be gutted like zinc pennies if we don’t head straight for CBDC. Stack em with spare change.

Feels so fucking comfy sitting on my stack seeing all the retards on /biz/ trying to bank run

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE PIVOT IS IMMINENT!

This means quantitative easing, which means the price of precious metals is going to be higher. Get your cheapies as soon as possible. Worse case scenario is that QE doesn't prevent national bank runs which would then lead to people spending their fiat on commodities, which means shit has officially hit the fan.

>>54052434
Low tier metal but better than fiat which is nothing more than a social construct.

>>54052953
I’m trying to be comfy and my stack feels alright, officially a Roman tier on the meme charts, but…I just need a little more. Just one more order and I’ll be content…right?

>>54053017
I better see suits throwing themselves out windows like in 1929.

Our time is near frens. 1oz AG = 1 acre. Simple as.

>>54051528
>>54052153
what size are the mega longbois on the left? 1,000 oz?

>>54052434
no. if you want to get into base metals stack bullets

>>54053017
Oh look, another one.

>>54053017
that isn't a pivot lmao

>>54053017
>>54053472
I just remembered I've got this. Looks like what this anon said is coming to fruition as he did say it would happen in Spring.

>>54053472
>technical glitch
run

>>54053017
>>54053472
>>54053553

>>54052285
>wings
Anon, that coin looks a bit off.

>>54053017
>>54053472
>>54053553
>>54053585
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/405335459/

I have a decent amount of sliver, but I wanted to join the air force for stability. I need a few more months before I can sign up, do I at least have two weeks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmy9QdVblMk

>>54053702
>do I at least have two weeks?
Two days.

>>54053702
No cluse but have this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3DqhUEXTN0

>>54053700
UK Financial Collapse - National Service Mobilization Act

Now let's see Paul Allen's order.

>>54053178
No! No! They're 100's. The full stack is about 1,850-ish.

>>54052759
They're from Istanbul Gold Refinery. It's just what happened to be cheapest at the time.

>>54053714
Monday huh
>>54053732
I don't have the degree or eyesight to be a pilot, I do have the dlab score for airborne cryptologic linguist though. Though I'd rather not deal with that shit.

>>54053743
UK Financial Collapse - No Return To Gold Standard They Would Rather Make Everyone Else Suffer Than Not Being In Control Anymore

>>54053777
Checked, and you make me want to buy silver soo bad but I need the money

>>54053815
>cryptologic linguist
That's pretty cool. Not to throw you in the drink but /pol/ has a skyking general where they shoot the breeze about aircraft stuff they hear over the radio. Might be nifty to you.

>Saved up 250 ounces of silver as a single man.
Hope I make it.

>>54053834
Silver IS real money anon
never forget that

Hopefully by monday we will get our wife + daughter merc dime combo

>>54053838
All I did was score good on a test that test your capabilities for learning a foreign language. The test is full blown autistic. I took the test a while back for a job that didn't happen, I'd rather not be a linguist.

>>54053777

>>54053702
I'm a vet, and enlisting was the best financial decision I ever made. That said, it does come with a lot of sacrifices, and there will be bullshit in types and quantities you didn't know were possible. If it weren't for the covid shot, I'd still recommend it, but I know too many people that have been fucked up by it. If I were enlisting in the current year, I would want to get a guaranteed exemption from ALL mrna shots, including the new "bivalent" covid/flu shots they're trying to slip under the radar now. If you already got it, then that sort of a moot point, but there's strong evidence that each successive "booster" is more and more likely to fuck you up.

>>54051108
Only M1 Garands are allowed?

>>54052009
>I'll give it to these globalist media faggots, they have a sense of humour.

You should see this crafty one.

>>54051528
The bricks on the left are gave me a brick and took my breath away

New gun and stack update

>>54053978
>If it weren't for the covid shot,
I think they stopped requiring it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/pentagon-drops-covid-19-vaccine-requirement-for-troops

>>54050891
What kind of margin are you guys dealing with when comparing silver's alleged value and the actual price you're paying?
Is pic related reasonable to you? Feels pretty brutal but I wouldn't know. I do obviously understand that buying larger coins/bars quantities lessens the woe.

>>54054142
things like the difference between spot price and actual price and the VAT is how they dissuade you

just buy silver, DCA every month. if you really want to reduce premiums, then buy generic rounds, not coins like the kangaroo

>>54051025
very based

>>54051759
>retards freak out
>/pmg/ stacks n chills
i don't feel like opening the safe rn but there's never a bad time to own gold and guns

>>54053900
Even if you aren't going for a linguist job get something in intel. Its a pretty neat gig but be prepared to work your ass off
>>54054101
Anzo is the best Guppie

>>54054106
Well good, but now that these things are in the world, you need to be extra careful when it comes to getting any shot for any reason, because you never know what tricks they might try to pull. Again, they're putting this stuff in flu shots now, I can't emphasized that enough.
And another thing, I know people that flat out refused to take the covid shot, and their chain of command did everything they could to coerce them into taking it, including Article 15 and taking stripes, but when it came to actually kicking people out, it was really hard for them to do, and most of them simply finished their terms and left with an honorable discharge. The point I'm trying to make is it pays to have guts, and if you do enlist, you should know that you're supposed to be respectful of people with higher ranks, especially your chain of command, but also know that rank doesn't mean jack shit. It matters, but it also doesn't matter. It's hard to explain, the bottom line is don't ever bend over and grovel just because someone with more stripes is upset at you. If you know you're right about something, stand your ground, and things will usually work out.

And for the love of God, don't get tricked into getting the clot shot.

>>54053101
That actually didn't happen. One guy jumped out a window nowhere near wall street that day before the crash and Winston Churchill was in town and wrote about it.

Still thinking about this order. $45 in premiums, but I don't have a spicy booba coin, so there's that.

>>54054312
Wrong pic

what gold to silver ratio ya'll holdin? investing soon, schiff recommends 2:1

>>54054328
libertad is worth the premium, friend

Thoughts on my first purchase? I know the lady fortuna isn't the best price but APMEX seems reputable and will accept my credit card

>>54054258
>And for the love of God, don't get tricked into getting the clot shot.
I lasted this long, not gonna give in now.

>>54054346
assuming you aren't larping and actually went to the checkout with that you overpaid $400+ apmex is especially rapey with premiums

>>54054344
Okay, the truth is I'm actually tempted to buy more. I just spent half my check on long overdue and very necessary car maintenance. If I spend anymore I'll have to pay bills out of savings.
I've spent the last two years being pissed that I bought during the squeeze. Now I'm thinking I don't got enough...

>>54054346
For fuck sake
https://findbullionprices.com/closest-to-spot/
I just had this exact conversation last thread, only it was JM bullion. You aren't the same guy trolling, are you?

>>54054346

>>54050990
That means it done for right?

>>54054340
100:1 Ag:Au but that's going to decrease once I get to ~1,000 oz of silver

>>54050990
Why am I only hearing about usdc today?
>Because you don't do crypto
Yeah, I know. But for something this important I should have some recognition?

>>54054497
their ebay store is actually amazing sometimes. just go to their items for sale and search for this exact string:
>"special" "gold"
sometimes you'll find some pretty good deals on shit like graded st gaudens, helvetias, roosters, etc, without the (((credit card premiums))) they charge on their real site

just my little trick to share with anons. also, on their real site, you can set up auto-investments drawn directly from a bank account that also avoid the (((premiums)))

>check for $11k of silver won’t clear until Friday
>probably won’t receive it for two weeks after that
Please god keep the banks open

>>54054340
about 10:1 silver:gold, erring on the side of more gold. current stack is ~60-70 oz silver and maybe ~10 oz gold, i forget exactly

>>54054101
MP40? Here?

>>54054650
Mate if you're worried about that week delay just eat the credit card fees.
It's probably a 1% loss to fees and instant clearing if you have a good rewards card.

>>54054346
Those prices aren't great anon. You can do better. You can even go buy a pre-33 double eagle coin for a lower premium per ounce right now. And those generally have higher premiums. Bars are supposed to have the lowest premiums and you shouldn't hardly pay over spot for them.

>>54054650
>triggering a 1099 for over $10k
You fucked up, should have gone to an LCS and asked for a bulk discount to round it all off to $9999

>>54054681
you guys are getting too gold obsessed
silver is always number 1
i do 100:1 ratio

>>54054340
Assuming you mean value (not mass), I'm at 1.05:1

>>54054638
Seconded for ebay as long as you know what you're doing. Ebay listings from the few largest bullion stores are often cheaper than their own sites, particularly after CC fees.

>>54053553
Reminds me of this, got to around the 1 hour and 20 min mark.
https://youtu.be/0PtULsOtI2o

>>54054715
it doesn't work that way

>>54054718
gold has always been #1 for me and always will be

>>54054736
there are a lot of smaller coin shops selling real gems on ebay. i have a variety of cool stuff, graded and not. ebay is fine but you can't be a retard or else you'll get ripped off

>>54054787
the GSR will correct, and when it does, people who are too heavy in gold will feel silly

>>54054761
>got to
Go to

>>54054715
Your info is incorrect.
The form is 8300.
A check is not cash, therefore irrelevant.

>>54054715
if the money is coming out of my bank account, the government is perfectly capable of finding out what I spent it on. The only way to keep it from them is to pay in cash at a local store for under $10k so there is no record of me ever being there.

>>54051705
those are really little nice wooden boxes, where did you get them?

>>54054715
That is not how it works. Doubly so because it's a check. Government only gets all bitchy if you are dealing in cash. A check can be for a million dollars and they do not give a shit because they can trace it if needed.

>>54054787
Yes, agreed, I made a living sniping new listings from smaller sellers when I was in school with no real income. Only worked because I knew what I was doing, if I didn't I'd get scammed.
I'm just pointing out that you can get very solid pricing even from the largest retailers when they run sales, with very little luck or skill required.

>>54054712
That’s a great point actually. I forgot I get 2% cash back on credit card purchases.

>>54054804
dunno, my experience has been that silver premiums average 40-60%+ while gold premiums are usually a comfy 10-25%

dunno if that's just the free market telling me that $20/oz spot price is a jewish lie, or if silver is more affordable so more kooks hoard it

either way, you can't really go wrong if you own silver OR gold

>>54054891
yeah i miss the days when /pmg/ shared random links to ebay deals. i picked up some island coin for like 20% under spot based on an anon's link

the safest retard-proof way is to search "special" "gold" on apmex and wait until they have MS-64 st gaudens for ~$2050

there are surprising deals to be had, especially in silver, if you get into french medals. but none of them are in coin catalogs and the purity system is specific to france (argent 1 = 0.950, argent 2 = 0.800)

I want more gold but I don't want to buy at this price

>>54054712
Okay, thank you. I won't put the order in. Going to calm down and think clearly on prices. Probably too worked up from /pol/

>>54054979
Fixed that for you

>>54054962
What shithole do you live in that has 40%+ premiums for silver?
But yes, silver and gold are both great to have and you can't go wrong with either.

>>54054761
Pretty much the same thing. They know the system is going to collapse, so they're discussing how to get the information and action out there without misinformation or disinformation fucking it up. They're not even pointing fingers at anyone specifically, they just say that things can spin out of control when you put your information into the market of ideas.

>>54055032
it's pretty much impossible to find pic related for under $350, m8. that's like a 75% premium

>>54054983
smart man, just chill out and don't impulse buy. there are always deals to be had, cuz the dirty little secret is that EVERYONE benefits when jews manipulate the prices of PM's down

>>54055029
there was nothing to fix faggot, go back nigger lover

>>54055065
pic related: 10 oz common engie pour. this is the only silver i buy these days, but i haven't since the great silver pump of a couple years ago. i think the free market simply demands $40/oz regardless of kikery

>>54055085
>Allowing American politics and social issues to rot your brain for no reason
based

>>54055090
engelhard bars are like numismatics. whining about their premium is retarded. buy something else

>>54055090
That's not the only silver that exists, anon.
You can find plenty for well under 40%

Are there any silver dealers that don't have a fucking 35% markup over spot?

>>54055136
so why am i paying 75% from some "i know what i got, don't lowball me" boomer when i could buy a st gaudens for 15%

>>54055148
i have plenty of junk silver already. the guy who sold me me safe had inherited a coin shop and wanted it all gone, so he sold me a bag of kennedy half dollar culls for well below spot. i also have a lot of euro junk and misc burger junk. plus some weird shit like medals, meme crosses, and island nigger coins. my only regret is not buying a box of gold shavings for a steal from the guy who sold the safe/culls to me

Serious question: How do you guys buy and sell this stuff without taking huge conversion losses? So you buy a $200 coin online and then pay $10 shipping to send it to your house... and you all are okay with just eating 5% of the value of your asset? And what about when you decide to sell your stash off? You'll inevitably be selling it to a reseller who will fuck you for 10-15% so they can make a profit, no?

Not to mention the fact that most of the coins you guys are posting have "collectible values" substantially higher than their melt value...

>>54055190
you can sell gold anytime, anywhere. it's basically one of the most desirable substances on the planet. i don't wanna sell ever, i'd rather fugg a girl and make babies to pass it on to

>>54055090
You know, out of all the minted precious metal bars I think these are the most aesthetic. A gruff finish suits bars better while more precise designs are look better on coins.

>>54055179
>so why am i paying 75% from some "i know what i got, don't lowball me" boomer when i could buy a st gaudens for 15%
you're obviously some kind of shill, because you're pretending like the only option is extremely high premium silver or gold
kys

>>54055179
Junk silver isn't the only alternative to Engelhard bars either.
If Engelhards make you happy, that's great, but you can find all kinds of 10 oz bars of pure silver for sub 20% premiums even.

>>54055216
yeah engies are fucking based

>>54055223
>>54055230
you can obviously buy some generic cast silver bar. i'm not saying it's not an option or that it's not substantially cheaper than a classic engie. i'm saying that i buy poured engies

>>54055209
yeah but who do you sell it to who don't fuck you for a couple % minimum? I'm asking because I want to start buying gold because I'm a stupid paranoid dweeb, but I don't want to do it if there's huge losses built into the market because it's essentially a collectors market rather than a market of assets of agreed upon value.

>>54055190
>You'll inevitably be selling it to a reseller who will fuck you for 10-15% so they can make a profit, no?
no, that is not the only option for selling

>>54055245
Fair enough, I was confused because you originally said
>my experience has been that silver premiums average 40-60%+
and never specified that you were referring only to Engelhards. It sounded like you were talking about silver in general.

>>54055250
it sounds like you just want to do short term trading. if so, buy GLD and frig off outta pmg

>>54055250
you can sell it on ebay, especially if it's graded. i have an iceland 10,000 kr coin, graded, whose gold content alone is now worth more than the entire price i paid for it. i paid 30% over spot and could easily list it for 50% over spot

>>54055270
a lot of silver tends to have higher relative premiums than gold in my experience. this is comparing similar vintages/collectible aspect/rarity, e.g., a poured engie is substantially more expensive than a st gaudens or a sovereign, even though they're basically the "same thing" in terms of being a very common older item

then you get into other old silver bars like golden analytical and the premiums go retarded. but yes, you can easily buy a something stacker for ultra-low premiums

>>54055353
scottsdale stacker, that's what it is. the extruded bar with the lion on it. i think these are supposed to be like 5% over, right?

>>54055353
it's just retarded to compare engelhard bars to st gaudens, as if they are the same "thing".

engelhard bars have a massive following. people love them. they will pay a massive premium for them. there is no such equivalent fervor for st gaudens.

East India Company is showing their effigy version of King Charles on its front page.

>>54053895
>by monday
Please no, literally just two more weeks until I can put together another purchase...

>>54051524
The M1 Garand was designed around M1 ball, a ~172 grain bullet going 2450fps. M2 ball wasn't issued en masse until 1941, 5 years after the M1 Garand was adopted. 180gr .30-06 won't kill the op rod, 200+gr and Bubba's handloads will. Also, I need to take a pic of my M1 with some silver.

>>54055425
st gaudens is widely considered the most beautiful coin ever minted but whatever. i'm also not talking about the austistic retards who catalogue every stupid fucking engie ever made, i'm talking about the most common, normal engie, e.g. >>54055090

it's basically the same thing. you can find some retard obsessed with collecting every engie, and i can find someone equally retarded who's obsessed with collecting every year of st gaudens, or every face of the sovereigns, or whatever

those people are freaks

>>54055250
If you’re holding it long term, the small % you’re losing would’ve been lost to inflation and then some of you had just kept it as cash. But truthfully, most people here are stacking for a shtf hyperinflation scenario and have no intention of ever selling their silver until paper money is practically worthless

>>54055353
ok so it IS basically just a collectors market? Is there no way that you can just buy and sell gold/silver by weight at close to spot price other than mining it yourself?

>>54055400
Not just scottsdale stackers either, all kinds of stuff.
But yeah, I'm sure numismatic and semi-numismatic stuff commands very high premiums.

>>54055130
>american politics
you're the one who's brain has rotted if you can't reach the conclusion that niggers are animals with all of the evidence available

>>54051108
source on those mozambique coins?

>>54055497
i have many silver pieces i bought for $15 that i can sell at a very nice profit
but sure, it's just "a collector's market"
whatever the fuck that means

>>54055497
it's called bullion, anon

>>54055501
yeah there's a lot of ultra-low premium stuff. i remembered the scootsdole stookers as one valid option but generally don't pay attention to this stuff. but yes, it's entirely possible to buy such silver.

>>54053803
how is that possible? what brand are they? they are huge

>>54055490
okay, but my point is that if most of the value of your gold and silver is in the collectability of the individual coins and bars you own rather than the melt value, then in a SHTF scenario your gold stash instantly becomes worth half as much because the collectability value disappears. I guess that's better than nothing but it still seems retarded.

>>54055540
what makes you think a SHTF scenario won't preserve collectability value?
libertads will still be worth more than generics, i guarantee it

>>54055540
selling gold in a financial collapse is the ultimate poorfag cope

>>54055535
>what brand are they?
Istanbul Gold Refinery, I already said.
>how is that possible? they are huge
bruh moment

>>54055501
oh wait a second, i just noticed the % over spot in parentheses. these "lowest premium" generic silver bars have higher premiums than decent deals i've gotten on gold. i remember buying some marianne roosters for like 9% over spot, a graded peru sol d'oro for maybe 7-8% over, and routinely see graded st gaudens on sale for 10-15% over, and austria 100 corona bullion is usually about 10% over. so it squares perfectly that my experience that silver in general tends to have higher premiums.

>>54055573
fair point I guess. Do you guys buy other high value collectible stuff too then? Like art, or antique books and guns? Or do you think there's something special about the collectability of certain coins and bars that makes them more valuable in a post-SHTF scenario than a rare book/gun/painting? I understand the argument that gold is a finite asset and therefore always useful as a monetary standard, but the collectability part is throwing me...

>>54055682
I'm not disagreeing with that. I don't think I've ever managed to find silver with a lower premium than its gold counterpart.
I was just blown away by how you were paying 40%+ premiums on silver until you specified that you mostly buy engelhards.

>>54055687
meh, all my guns are pretty fancy and my car is basically the only used non-collector car that increases in value (old volvo station wagon). i dunno why you keep talking about SHTF. (((they))) want you atomized, confined to a pod, buying shit on amazon on credit. they don't want you being a post-apocalyptic barterer

>>54055723
yeah. the last time i bought englehards is was a 25% premium or so cuz the spot price pumped, and the last time i bought silver in general, the guy essentially paid me to take it

>>54055745
I'm only asking about SHTF because it's always the most vocal argument for buying precious metals.

Honestly I just wanna dump a big chunk of my long-term savings into low grade liberty gold dollars because they're tiny and I think it would be funny to keep my savings in the form of a tiny little Scrooge McDuck coin pile in my safe. But I don't want to do it if their value is going to fluctuate retardedly all over the place if the economy gets rocky in the next couple years.

>>54055540
Yeah, collectibility won’t matter when a wheelbarrow of cash won’t buy you a loaf of bread, so buy stuff that is as close to spot price as you can find. That’s going to be ~4-8%. Hold it long term and you’ll eventually hit a time when you’ve made your money back and then some due to inflation.

>>54055682
I’m fairly new to this market, so I don’t know if this is normal, but every website I’ve done calculations on shows the premiums on fine silver being considerably higher than gold for basically all non-collectible items. You almost can’t find silver of any weight with less than 8% premium over spot price. Most weights of gold can be bought at under 8% premium though.

>>54055864
think of it this way: the value of gold is constant, and the prices of everything else move relative to that static value. the SHTF people are definitely vocal but everyone stacks for different reasons. i personally care about diversified generational wealth, and my beliefs are kind of a "soft freegold" mindset. i don't think we'll wake up one day and gold will magically be $10k/oz, but i do think that in a generation or two, $5k gold is just seen as normal. hell, when i started stacking in 2013, the assumption was that gold cost $1200 because it was "$1k/oz + $200 to melt it." now it's almost normalized that gold should basically cost $2k/oz. give it a few hundred years and everyone will just assume that gold is "worth" $10k/oz. or so i believe. it's obviously as hypothetical as some future SHTF rapture point so don't think my vision of the future is accurate

>>54055969
this has been my experience. protip: seek out south american gold coins. they tend to have beautiful designs, relatively low premiums, and are significantly fatter than other coins, e.g., a "1/2 oz coin" will likely contain like 2/3 oz pure gold

>>54055969
>Most weights of gold can be bought at under 8% premium though.
Leverage cash back rewards and eBay sales, easy to get gold under spot.

Gobs and gobs of gobbo pussy is in my future. You are understandably jealous. But this will not stop me. I will keep stacking.

>>54054979
Same. I only have
>67 oz Ag
>2 oz Au
I wanted something like the prööt you have, kek.

>>54056005
You’re finding gold on eBay that’s only 1-2% over spot? In what amounts?

>>54056002
>e.g., a "1/2 oz coin" will likely contain like 2/3 oz pure gold
wtf why

>>54054340
500:1 for gold and 1,000:1 for platinum

>>54054979
keked
>>54055029
kekked almost as hard

>>54056045
get a better card anon. I get 3.3% r/n

How to buy good gold. Ive been buying those bars from JM bullion but apparently thats not the right gold to be buying? I have a budget for each paycheck for gold/silver but I need to know what to buy so i can fuck the goblinas and kill niggers in the future?!?!?!? Pl0x help me

Why doesn't JM Bullion let me buy Gold in person?

>>54056529
>pl0x
I haven't heard someone use that unironically in 10 years, so I will help you despite hating your image and you as a person.
https://findbullionprices.com/gold/closest-to-spot.php?category=gold
Search that link and buy the first thing that you can afford. Ignore numisniggers, especially when it comes to gold.

feeling pretty good about these normies bank runs right now

>>54056610
thanks n00b. So i shouldnt feel bad that i have these bars? also coins are the best thing id assume? obviously if i can buy huge ass 10k bar that would be way better right?

>>54056298
What kind of card is that? I’ve yet to see one that’s higher than 2.5% on non-categorized purchases unless it has a monthly limit or a large annual fee

>>54056775
BoA customized cash rewards. I get 3% for online purchases and and extra 10% of that since I have a BoA account. Once I get my Merrill account set up I can get the 5.25%. I have like $33k limit and no fee

>>54056836
online dealers charge more if you use CC instead of an ach transfer

>>54056691
>legendary inflation for several years
>2nd largest bank failure in history
>gold still well, well below 2020 levels
>even ignoring this, last time banks failed government confiscated all the gold
there is literally no scenario in which goldcucks win. you're literally just collecting trading cards, except those actually appreciate. paying to play in a manipulated market in which you cannot win.

>>54055181
unfortunately silver is under VAT in most places. very rare to find it without getting raped by taxation but it does happen.
keep digging

>>54056883
Hence the eBay deals, cash or card is the same, from reputable dealers only, of course.

>>54056883
He’s saying that the credit card rewards are higher than the dealer fees for using a credit card. He pays an extra 4% but he gets an extra 5.25% back from his credit card usage, so he’s actually saving money and the transaction doesn’t require mailing a check. Or he can buy from individuals on eBay at close to spot price and the credit card rewards actually puts his buy below spot price.

>>54054505
get that money out of your savings account rn and put it in something that you can hold in your hand or atleast see with your eyes
that shit will be gone like a fart in the sahara in just days, if you just look at whats happening to banks rn

>>54056891
>he doesn't know about the thousands of americans that buried gold in their yard for forty years and then dug it up in the 70s and cashed in

sounds like an awfully good retirement fund to me, anon

>>54056968

>>54056717
Don't feel bad about it, as long as it's the metal you paid for. At worst you might have overpaid for it.
Don't worry about coins vs bars vs rounds, just buy weight. If you can get a coin cheaper or near the same cost as a round it may be worth it, but it's hardly worth worrying about.

>>54057015
Wow. A good deal even before the credit card rewards

>Was planning on moving cash to bank account then buying metals online
>But banks are crashing now, don't know what to do.
>Thinking of buying in person, but almost all metal sellers in my area have some bad reviews
Christ it's all so tiring and I haven't even started.

>got paid on Friday
>ordered some PMs
>now seeing reports my credit union is suffering “technical issues”
Pray for me, anons

>>54051008
Well based on the melt value, they are 7 cents, or about 2 pre-1982 copper coins, so there's that
which means you'd need roughly 21-22 Presidential dollars to equal a single silver dime, according to melt values for each
if you want numismatic gems, this could be a reference point
>https://robpaulsenlive.com/rare-presidential-dollar-coins/

>>54056203
Cool how platinum in good lighting looks like a denser silver, but in dark lighting looks like a shadow version of gold

>>54057178
I'm curious, how exposed are credit unions to big bank shenanigans?

>>54057320
I wish platinum had the same shade as Osmium as its shade of blue is beautiful. Problem with Osmium is that it isn't a stable metal and can become toxic.

>>54057330
I’m unsure. I’ve just seen various posts about NFCU having technical issues

>>54057348
Yeah, I think it really has to be pure and in a largely solid state to be relatively safe, but burning it or having shavings or breaking it down into dust will allow osmium to take on it's toxic properties in a gas or fine powder form

I just ordered 1 kilo of silber. I hope you faggots are happy now

>>54057627
Order more

>>54056891
shabbat shalom
im just waiting for the fake silver thats used to devalue physical to disappear
the most disgusting valuations are 500 oz of fake paper silver for every real physical ounce

>>54057627
Go on without me, fren. Blew my load over the last six weeks and can’t buy again til April. Still got three oz silver waiting to arrive but the withdrawals are killing me.

browsing JM, feel like there's bad juju coming from a 1 oz gold credit suisse bar even though it's the cheapest

what should I get instead?

It's happening

>>54058646
That spot price for silver is gonna coom into $30 I swear.

>>54058479
get a 1oz gold krug
the king of gold coins
if you really wanna be based, pay extra to get a date before 1990, the year they shamefully started to end apartheid

>>54058833
I was actually already leaning towards that or an Aussie Kanga. Went with the krug, random year. Just sent the 1.35 ethereum over, feels good

>>54054170
oooo what’s that one anon

>>54054711
Yes. Who better to help take jewish gold. Also got Kar98, UMP sisters, vector, and SR-3MP patch.

>>54054142
The point is to spend fiat currency to buy it and then not sell it back for fiat currency, but for other useful assets.

>>54055181
Now that people see banks are failing, they've started buying physical precious metals right when everyone else is doing it.
If you wanted it easily and cheap you should've stack it early when the premiums were way lower, before things are becoming bad.
Physical precious metals (gold and silver) are not like crypto coins, they're a finite resource and most likely those who try to buy them now may not even achieve that as they become unobtanium.

>>54059509
this
you're all a bunch of late comers
so pay the premiums and quit whinin'

At a kids party. They just throwing away these trays. No hallmarks (at all) but I’m going to buy a sigma machine and take a chance. I can’t loose. Got like 10 of them Out of the bins frens.

>>54059079
>Kar98
very nice

>>54059560
let the good times roll

Oh.

>cashed check Friday for big purchase
>learn bank said check is from will probably fall, most likely nullifying that transfer; betting my bank will fall as well.

Have some funds to add a little more to my meager silver (~43oz) stash, thinking it's better to focus on the silver I guess? Fucked either way lol

>>54059826
must have solid gold swastika disc...

>>54057330
Depends on the credit union. They vary widely, from wild west meme shit to safe.

i was waiting for the price to dip lower, but looks like its now or never

>>54058646
I'm wondering if apmex and others are going to cancel orders come Monday morning when spot prices update so they don't lose money selling so much product under spot.

>>54055190
Sell?

>>54055190
>So you buy a $200 coin online and then pay $10 shipping to send it to your house... and you all are okay with just eating 5% of the value of your asset?
I would buy it in person with cash if not for the fact of what I said here >>54057070
>Inb4 gas money/transport cost

Do I talk my wife into letting me order 10 oz of silver and a merc tube after having to explain the 4000$ in metals on last month’s bill?

>>54060311
>>54060311
I always hear ((people)) saying it happened to them but it never happened to me. Then again what might be about to happen is something I haven't seen.

>>54054855
They were a gift from Etsy or one of the other crafty shops in early 2011. No idea where to get them now.

>literal bank runs
can't wait to have my pretty gf. my stack looks extra shiny today.

>>54051646
what site? hero has slightly lower quality CAD dollara for a bit cheaper

>>54060604
I've never had it happen, but just like you, I've heard of it happening to people when there is a big swing in spot price. I know apmex has in their clause they can cancel any order due to sudden market movements. Having a bank fail, runs on other banks, and a massive influx of pm buyers would likely constitute a sudden swing Monday morning.

> 180 oz silver
> 3/10 oz gold
> smattering of copper, nickel and pewter
> 5 figures in a credit union
> handguns, rifles, ammo and training
> medical supplies and training
> live close to fresh water and bountiful mother ocean and good land for hunting
> have enough food stored to last about eight months, maybe more

I gotta say, I think I'd be okay with a habbening tomorrow

>>54053777
Checked

>>54060541
>go to work
>earn money
>need permission to spend it
based

I bought a lot of gold yesterday, I have 70% of my assets in PM and 30% in Cash, did I do good or have I fucked up?

dubs and i spend half my dry powder on SILVER before market opens

>>54060890
It’s more of my own personal FOMO after spending way too much last month. I don’t think I need it but I want it and there’s the suffering.

>>54060876
Redpill me on junk silver. Some anons here think it’s a waste but 3.6 oz of silver for 100$ of mercs is a good deal imo.

>>54060922
Considering how absolutely gay our modern banking system is your ratio makes the most sense considering you’re your own bank now. Good going, anon.

>>54055029
Janitor acceptance emails will be sent out over the coming weeks. Make sure to check your spam box!

Fuck. Wanted some more gold but was postponing it since the 2 Rand I want aren’t available at a good price.
Do I buy some 1.5% premium Babenberger 1000S, even though I don’t particularly like it, first thing tomorrow morning?

>>54057070
Normies all feel that way the first time. At least you're still ahead of the curve. Plenty of people coming after you who won't even be able to find gold to buy much less pay for it.

>>54060950
But the money I put into PM was meant to be for a deposit for a house. I guess it isnt the right time for a house right now anyway

https://www.temple-coins.com/collections/temple-coins/products/70-years-israel-redemption-temple-coin-minted-solid-silver?variant=37643094589590
You got yours, right?

>>54060950
>Redpill me on junk silver. Some anons here think it’s a waste but 3.6 oz of
Wanted some smaller coins. Simple as.
Also 90% are the only real coins, anything lower might as well be fiat.

>>54058646
>fag/pedo flag

Opinion discarded

>>54060727
>180 oz of silver
>5 figures in a credit union
WTF are you doing?

>>54055190
>So you buy a $200 coin online and then pay $10 shipping to send it to your house.
Most vendors have a minimum purchase to get free shipping, and it's usually $200.
Do you live in some shithole country where charging anyway is common practive?

>>54060973
I don't think anything is actually going to kick off tomorrow. Interest is spiking and that means much higher premiums. If you didn't grab anything by now I'd wait until at least Thursday to see what the fallout might be. Either way there will be no deals to be had.

Patience, this is the long game and you've still got some time. (Though less than you think.)

>>54050891
>Click on /biz/ a couple of times this morning
>/pmg/ is the first thread each time
Shit, this bank collapse is worse than I thought, isn't it?

>ctrl + f "comex"
>0 results
what went wrong

>>54061156
If anything does kick off go to your local zogmart if you can't make it to the bank fast enough and buy a candy bar at every self checkout and drain their cash thru cashback

>>54058479
>bad juju
If you make your financial decisions based on superstition, yngmi

>>54060719
It probably also depends on whether you are a regular buyer or not. If you buy 2-3 ounces vs 10,000, etc, etc...

>>54060973
Put the coin in your cart and watch.
Typically the spot for all metals goes down until Monday 5 PM, UT. Then the real trend starts. If you see the prices going up, buy. If they continue down, wait some more.
P.S. - nice that you can get it for 1.5%. I got mine (in Burgerland) for like 7%, but wanted it too badly to pass up.

>>54061222
They had to use some of their own stack to keep the comex from going lower, so the numbers are a bit up.

>>54061301
Good point, losing a handful of people out of a sea of small purchasers due to canceled orders wouldn't hurt as bad as losing a couple of whales.

>>54060604
It seems that would be a breach of contract, so no.
I looked, but can't (easily) find their "Terms and Conditions" of sale, so can't verify if you're signing away that right when buying.
So if anyone places and order, please take a minute to maybe scan the text for mentions of the sort and let us know.

>>54060983
If you wanted to buy a house why did you buy a shitload of PMs? I don’t know what the market is going to look like; everything seems inflated and fraudulent but they’ve kept the Ponzi going for so long with organic corrections like 2008 being completely undermined by bailouts and massive money printing.

>deposit
Fuck mortgages. Save and buy a house outright, even if it’s a shitbox that you have to slowly repair. Better yet, buy land close to work or in an area you can easily commute to a job in and build an energy efficient home. Earth ships and houses made from natural materials BTFO any 600k$ cardboard McMansion with a postage stamp lot.

>>54060719
They might reserve the right, but they've already got a rep for fuckhuge premiums. They'd be better off keeping the customers than sending them to the shops that don't revoke sales.

>>54061404
Damn! Now I kinda want it. Your shot looks much better than the promo image at the dealer. Probably can always buy the 2 Rand later since it’s not very expensive to start with.
>>54061156
I know, I was only half memeing. Still, it’s one of these “damned if f you do, damned if you don’t” scenarios.

>>54061549
a friend of mine bought a dilapidated shitpit with a barn on 6 acres made in the 20s.
spent a few year fixing it up while he and his wife worked and raised kids.
20 years later it's a beautiful, well built house. the money he saved in housing, gardening, and raising rabbits and chickens allowed him to fill that barn with three show quality classic cars.
i'm guessing the constant work on the house did well for his kids since they're young but driven.

i'm waiting a few years to buy a house and want to do the same thing.

Merc roll and a king Chuck are on the way. Happy to scratch the itch amid this financial shitflinging and cross off king Chuck and his ugly goddamn coin from my yearly checklist.

What have you stacked since SVB shit its pants, anons?

Is this enough to make it through the collapse? I don't want to trade/sell my collectable coins and rounds.

>>54056059
they just tend to be bigger in general. it's not really sold as a 1/2 oz coin, obviously, but they tend to be pretty fat. pic related has 37.5g gold content. moden spic bullion is a normal oz though

>>54059033
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces52322.html

>>54061694
Yea I'm probably worried over nothing, it was just a stray thought wondering if all the online dealers are going to get greedy and refund orders to get sales at the higher spot and lose a few customers or stand by thier orders to keep all their customers and eat the spot loss.

>>54061800
Just when I was proud of reaching 1:500 mr. Big dick and his fat fucking stack stop by. You’re gonna make it, anon. I just skimmed the writing on those tubes so I don’t know your ratio of collectibles vs. generics. If you’re lacking on silver you’d feel comfortable selling I’d stack specifically those along with junk. Premiums aren’t terrible and they are much more worthwhile than fractional bullion.

>>54061876
Thanks for the advice. Everything in a tube here I consider tradable.. I'd hate to have to part with my kookaburra or germania collections for example.
I have almost no junk silver outside of a couple collectible coins right now so I should probably get some. Any recommendations?

>>54061786
If you're the same age as your friend and he already put 20 years into this, you're too old to pull that off.

>>54061800
>Is this enough to make it through the collapse?
Read this tier list.

>>54061999
I wish that had factors for Pt, Pd, and Rh too.

>>54061974
Just bought a tube of mercs and plan on grabbing 9 more to fill the plastic tubes I bought to keep them cozy in the stack. If you want the lowest possible premiums you’re looking at those bulk junk orders off of bullion sites like Apmex or SD where it’s just a mix of junk in 10$, 100$, or 1000$ dollar face value increments.

Whenever I look at videos talking about junk they kind of break down the reasoning into three categories:

>if our SHTF paranoia comes true they’re divisible for small transactions.
>they are lower premium costs for buying silver (a tube of mercs is 3.6ish oz silver for 100ish bucks)
>they’re only going to get more and more rare as there is a finite amount remaining.

Considering the mass of your stack I would dedicate the next purchases exclusively to junk. At the end of the day it’s silver, it’s boring, and if you had to sell it would be a barrier protecting your higher value bullion.

>>54062122
Treat Pt like .5 oz gold, Pd like 1 oz gold, and whatever the fuck Rh costs relative to gold. Easy as, anon.

>tfw Roman tier and afraid I only have enough “for retirement.”
>but…but…muh goblin shortstacks

Sunday morning bread baking
>>54062181
>>54062181
>>54062181

>>54058646
Apmex publishes its sales figures in real time?
Where did Michael get this info?

>>54061786
I'm still mad that someone bought a house in Maine built in the 1750's before I could get qualified for a loan. Came with 17 acres, a working apple orchard and was only $150k

>>54062164
Thanks anon, I'm going to do this. I like the idea of not having to cut up rounds for purchases and having that barrier.

>>54062263
I could never deface my babies so junk is the way to go. Outside of the merc meme it doesn’t get enough praise on /pmg/ but junk should be a hefty part of anyone’s stack. Best of luck and make sure to post picks when your bag of junk comes in!

>>54062287
Where's a good place to get junk silver? The places I trust are always out and the other places seem sketch.

>>54062164
>>they are lower premium costs for buying silver (a tube of mercs is 3.6ish oz silver for 100ish bucks)
Not really true.
The premiums on junk is at best around 20%.
Pic related.
Circulated junk is worn, and a good number for content for such coin is 0.715 ozt per face dollar. $100 is 71.5 ozt. Divide the price by the ASW, and you get $25.37/ozt.
It's no deal. Buy it for the meme, but not for the value.

>>54062198
>1 PBTID
WHY?
What drives one to prematurely ejaculate a general they obviously have no interest in?

>>54062658
More to the point, why do people flock over there so instantly?

>>54062703
My guess, most people are phone posters these days, they see a new thread go up and move over rather than scroll all the way down to check if we are close to bump limit.

>>54062807
Zoomer phone zombies. Reasonble guess.

>>54062256
that sounds like a dream home.
shame you missed out on it, anon.
hopefully they actually use the apple orchard and don't do the boomer sell off.

>>54062807
I’m a phone poster too, so that’s not an excuse. It’s just very odd.
I’m not a conspiracy theorist (lol, crazy, I know), but this 1PBTID stufff is just off. Who is behind that a d why?

>>54062949
Same here, just a guess based on most likely reason is human laziness. Could definitely be something else, lately pretty much all new threads are from a 1pbtid which is weird.

>>54062949
I blame plebits. They're used to getting credit for doing good deeds, and they imagine they're getting some street cred or what. But they use a VPN to change their IP/Ids to hide their faggotry so they can post without getting picked on during the course of the thread.
Basically, it's needy retards.

>>54063366
Could also be those discord cryptofags again, they where starting threads early awhile back so they could try to split and control the narrative and slowly turn the conversations toward crypto while fudding pms before they got outed by another anon.

>>54063516
All these possibilities.
None of them reflect well on the bakers.