/biz/ - Business & Finance

The holocaust did not happen in the way that the western world portrays.

I think that at 4:00am EST today, 9:00GMT Putin is giving his speech 1 year anniversary of the war beginning / recognizing Donetsk Luhansk
could be a nothing burger, but it has the potential to sharply move oil markets as well as risk on equities - be on the look out

>>OP
please at least watermark to attribute it to the proper owners, thanks

>>53791861
At all*

It's literally over tomorrow isn't it bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT50xE1TMIo

>>53791909
While everyone is worried about tomorrow. I'm already four five six seven eight nine ten feet ahead.

I need to figure out my portfolio.....
I need to figure out my fucking life.......

you bought puts right anon?

>2020
>Crab Year
>2021
>Bull Year
>2022
>Bear Year
>2023
>

>>53791975
>>53791971

>>53792004

>>53791981
I did indeed. At the highs of Thursday. They are already up 4k. I just need a cheeky little crash in SPY. Just a quick 20% down will be fine.

>>53792004
I am both of those types

>>53792013

>>53792019
They're supposed to be finance related

>>53791861
Glad you could join us, DAN. Now tell me whether to buy SOXL or SOXS.

>>53792028
They are. So many idiot traders stay in a losing trade believing it will work out.

>>53791868
They already played their oil card with the future 500kbpd "cuts". No way Putin shows desperation by doing something else on that front so soon.

>>OP
is this bull/bear market in the room with us right now

>>53792063
That crab is wearing extremely weird glasses.

I guess I could by Blackrock puts that expire 2025 (if I had money).

Name the slimmest bank or lender in the US.

I need to amass wealth and hit 12% body fat if I want to be worthy of a gf.

Who is the scummiest bank in the US?

Day 12 of building a billion dollar company in under 5 years. Still manufacturing the first actuator prototype. Should be done by tomorrow night.

>>53781264

>>53792123
Goldman Sachs

>>53792107
Well I missed my chance to buy a home I guess...

>>53792149
Property values are inelastic. They held steady to pivot. Now unless rents increase more than 5% a year properties will be offloaded to buy treasuries at convience.

>>53792133
Why do you think your actuator has a market?

>>53792189
The actuator is a very small part of a much larger project. It is the first step.

>>53792133
Do us a favor and keep posting the exact same frog image so we can trace your posting history. Name it frogtrepreneur.jpg or something.

>>53792240
Well keep at it, slugger. I'll buy a couple shares of whatever SPAC you merge with.

>>53792267
I'll probably stop posting at some point because of this. I already link to each daily update, forming a continuous chain.

>>53792133
Are you building a mecha?

>went from afterhours being the time when trading really happened to only day hours mattering because of 0DTE's
Degen gamblers, we have WON
>that feel when 5 minute candles are the biggest candles that can ever matter now
200MMA is the long technical indicator

>>53792281
Mecha penis with piston powered blood pump with industrial strength shock absorber so you can survive an American woman riding you

>>53792281
My guess is some kind of sexbot or teledildonics setup.

>>53792281
It's a surprise. :^)

>>53792287
Next on the docket:
>Instant trade settlement
>23/5 options trading a la >futures
>Hourly options
>Cancel Juneteenth market holiday

>>53792301
If you're building a combat mech, I volunteer to be a test pilot. I don't care if it kills me. I'll liquidate everything I have and invest $300k for the privilege

>>53792322
I'm not. None of this is military or /k/ related.

>>53792328
Well now you've disappointed me, anon
Good luck with your... thing

>>53792328
Well you'd better deliver some kino unexplained pictures of your prototypes, at the very least. PVCanon is leaving big shoes for you to fill.

>>53792337
Horizon: Zero Dawn is a documentary from the future.

>>53792341
Perhaps.

>>53791832
Pension plans are held by companies like banks they handle all the bullshit for a fee and invest it

>>53792348
I don't play vidya from this decade

>>53792328
Simple question. Will the uterine lining shed on a 28 day cycle? I'll take my answer offline.

>>OP

smoke em if you got em

I got a weird feeling the stock market is going to get pounded in the ass (in a bad way) tomorrow.

>>53792367

>>53792367
Sorry, smoking kills my gainz.

Wages still on the rise in germany

>>53791909
This pic always reminds me of Mike Stoklasa

>>53792365
Robowaifus are on the roadmap, but they're too much for a small startup to develop starting out.

>>53792367
gottem

>>53792386
Soon to be USA too.

>>53792386
Wait a second, the last time that happened...

How can I acquire fatstacks in discounts using vpn

Do you guys think they're not helping the Ohio train area because the place is called "East Palestine"?
I do.
I really think they're that petty.

>>53792432
Its beyond fucked.

>>53791909
Based as always, sir.

>>53792432
As with most questions in life and politics, we should defer to Qadaffi.

>>53792440
Yeah it is.
There is no other logical reason right? They're literally ignoring it, totally and utterly. They refuse to help anyone there.
I really think that's just how it is.

>>53791909
Nah, SPY 411

>>53792080
It's to read today's websites who are all just about scrolling down a list of dopamine breadcrumbs

When will the degens stop gambling odte to the market actually does something.

Also why dont I ever learm my lesson. Superdosing vitamin D makes it impossible to sleep.

When volatility returns, this is going to be the comfiest thread. I look forward to it.

If you want volatility, check oil computer.

>>53792604
Natural gas in the USA will e eventually explode. Cheniere is 11% of all natural gas exports and they havent been able to export for almost a year. The pipes are chilling and about to be filling.

>>53792307
>Next on the docket:
Next on the docket is going to be 0HTE options. Endless gambling all day.
>>53792543
Former TINA smoothbrains now barbell with treasuries and 10% 0DTEs.
You buy the treasuries because you expect a prompt return to ZIRP. You buy the 0DTEs to short circuit the theta jews.
The only way to stop it is to furiously stomp on the neck of PIVOTOOOORS and "BUY THE DIP" midwits. Anything else, and the 0DTEs will just grow.

If nat gas is well stored with a warm winter.. Why are euros still paying 50$ per mmbtu for gas

>>53792685
I need you to cool it with the antisemitism

I bought nat gas at $2.2 yesterday. Leverage x5. Litteraly free money .

>>53792685
Because that's for buying additional gas. Which is being bid on by all those understocked 3rd world countries that Euros stole their gas from last year.

>>53792707
Natural gas futures looking shitty. Negative 1.5% on cme even though investors real time commodities show green.

>>53792707
I remember when that was said at 3 and 2.5

>>53792707
Everybody's gangsta until /NG futures go negative

SOXS is good now right

>>53792386
So? Such is the case everywhere in Europe. Inflation has been defeated bro. The ECB rate hikes have proven efficient and we are once again in a bull run. Never you mind that core inflation, service, food prices... and so on have continued to soar. Haha nah man, the electricity prices have gone down so we can finally celebrate the death of inflation and the avoidance of recession.
To be honest I am expecting a slight drop in the EU market in the coming months but only few % at best, especially in Germany where the stock market is fuckin comprised of value stocks that continue to make record earnings. The situation is pretty much identical here in Scandinavia.
We have once again missed the generational bottom :(

HANG SENG TECH INDEX DOWN 3%

its over.

>>53792786
Any thoughts on EURUSD?

>>53792806
Sorry m8 but I dare not speculate when it comes to currency. I had a friend once who thought he could gamble on that shiet. Heh, never made any gains.
But I digress, if I really had to force myself, I'd say that the dollar is going to rally further in view of many more additional rate hikes plus everyone will seek the stability and value of the dollar considering the economic instability of 2k23 where the effects of the rate hikes will finally be felt.
The ECB is much too cowardly. But hell, what do I know?

>>53792806
Banks set forex rates and EURUSD is the most traded and manipulated in the world.
Forex is a means of shorting the equities market, broadly speaking. Being long EURUSD instead of US equities means you are expecting further downturn, and dont trust the US treasuries

>>53792838
the dollar is not going up because muh stability and value of dollar but because foreign investor need to exchange their currency to dollar to buy US treasuries because they pay more interest than their shit hole

Hope you guys enjoyed your long weekend :)

>>53792887
Gonna be an enjoyable year my fellow /smg/bro. Hopefully, the dollar continues its rise at least a little bit longer since I need time to accumulate as much gold as possible

>>OP
Buying sqqq at open and watch it moon as putin officially declare ms War with ukraine(hopefully)

>>53792913
Hopefully oil pumps to the stratosphere

>>53792913
>>53792932
dumb chuds betting against america, you get what you deserve (total liquidation of your portfolios)

>>53792887
Dumb question, you can only buy treasuries with USD? I never really thought of the mechanics of it. Thats an interesting implication which implies that there is less USD on the market and more foreign currencies which devalues them.
So conversely, what would cause them to rise? For example EUR/NZD?

> OIL

kek baggies , oil to $150 they said

>>53792974
you can probably technically buy it in other currencies but it will auto convert at the same rate. otherwise there would be arbitrage opportunities

there are corporate bonds called eurobonds that are pretty tricky (canadian company's bond sold in japan that gives USD as currency instead of YEN or CAD)
>>53792887
also this poster is retarded, the US rate is low compared to brazil and almost every other country. The reason why people buy US govt bonds is for less inflation and no default risk.

Putin and Xi making pancakes together. Get ready to cut off China. YANG gang to infinity

>>53793019

You can not convince me that anything good will come from the CCP. China is not cool bro.

>>53793014
BRANDON reiterated his intention and draining SPR to ZERO

>>53793014
Does that even matter? I swear, most oil/gas companies are still near ATH and even the slightest pump in oil/gas will send them soaring. It's bloody ridiculous but that's how it apparently is.
Hell, I sold my oil stocks when oil/gas were at their peak and now? The same stocks are still pretty much at that price. Just stupid

>>53793016
>less inflation and default risk
I get that, but if the US is *the* global currency, why wouldnt treasuries have a much higher coupon or premium atrached to them? Kinda like how puts have a premium because of hedging, if the USD is so great, why wouldnt bonds be more expensive when rates are low? Or, why dont they auction them with high coupons? Or would that just fuck up currency valuation and inject too much capital?

>>53792786
It's not just Europe. I'm looking at minimum wage increases around the world right now, and it's no different

Modern war is deflationary for oil. With the new EV tanks and solar F16s its earth friendly. Also, no disruptions in supply expected from OPEC, especially Iran - dropping bombs on them opens up new holes to drill. Oil will go negative this year.

>>53791987
>2023-2033
King Crab

>>53792974
yes you can only buy US treasuries with dollar.
about the EUR/NZD pair I can't tell you much because I'm not a forex trader.
only thing I know is that NZD is heavily affected by commodities due Australia being the biggest gold exporter, which affects NZD too since they are their biggest trading partner

>>53793041
US doesnt need to pay a high interest rate to attract investors
The US does do auctions to issue their bills. The lowest bid wins obviously. The demand is so high that the premiums end up being low.

>>53793016
>The reason why people buy US govt bonds is for less inflation and no default risk.
those are the people giving you advice in es em gee

>futures

>>53793108
>the future

The arrow of time only points in one direction.

>>53793108
Meh. We're gonna end up at 408 or something by close

>>53793124
Time and volatility are the only things that matter

what the fuck is happening

>>53793139
time is passing, past growing, future receding.

>>53793133

Fuck the market and finances. I have bigger things to fry. I'm broke anyway. Anime is pretty good though.

>>53793139
we are going out of mumu's fantasy land on soft/no landing and going back to reality
look at the yields pumping

>>53793139
Futures are unironically irrelevant as long as 0DTEs can't be traded

>Big tech = going to zero
>Big banks = going to zero
>Too big to fail = going to zero

Everyone thinks I'm stupid - and agree. But I'm right this time.

>>53792543
Ask big money. Retail accounts only for 5% if 0dte trading

>>53793175
why is he telling me to buy iShares Core Canadian Universe Bond Index ETF | XBB

>>53793189

He was rambling about some stupid covid variant

>>53793184
5% volume wise or 5% open interest wise?

i will load on 0dte SPY calls at open and (You) will seethe

>>53792655
>The only way to stop it is to furiously stomp on the neck of PIVOTOOOORS and "BUY THE DIP" midwits. Anything else, and the 0DTEs will just grow.
Kek I love when Morgan Stanley is seething because they missed the generational bottom

>>53793195

Lol why are you calling spy? I'm calling the fat camp so they can come pick up your mother

>>53793037
Because drop on profits was priced in. It's no surprise to anyone who invests for more than a year that commodities are cyclical.
The way you should look at that, is those stocks didn't pump further despite trading at single digit P/E, exactly because investors expected profit margins to drop.

>>53793055
I got 50% raise last year. Feels good.

We have now upgraded to level 2 in this conflict with China/Russia. Things will start getting hot. Incels will have a purpose now, being drafted to fight for globohomo. Don't worry Euros - you'll be participating in elite units for Operation Human Shield

>>53792543
(((they))) use 0dte for hedging, but retail is using it for gambling which doesn't matter because we don't move markets anyway

Any suitor who seeks my daughter’s hand in marriage must have a healthy number of 0DTEs. She deserves a man of means.

>>53793239
Go away.

>>53793245
me on the left

>>53793193
Volume. JPM dude said 0dte has around $1t daily volume too

>>53793233
checked and you will be blamed

>>53793233
I did too

unironically

>>53793233
Same but I put in my 2 weeks regardless, word from HR insider is me quitting opened up 3 positions lmao.

What's the deal with vaginas anyway? They don't vag and they don't ina.

after careful deliberation the market makers have decided the direction for today
it go down

>>53793268
well that's not conclusive since market makers can just let retail hold the bag, but still low.

night night

>>53793311
Kek, feels good to be good at what you are doing. I have quite niche experience in my area. Almost nobody in the job market has it and yet this niche is core strategy of the company. Last year I was getting so many good offers I wanted to leave.
Funny thing is, firm's initial offer was 3% raise despite job market being quite competitive back then. Another proof that HR are overpaid useless retards.

>>53793329
Compared to around 20% overall market volume coming from retail it's low indeed. But as another anon mentioned, difference is probably in the way those options are used. To big money it's most likely just a hedge

Back from my 3 day ban to say fuck jannies buy BOIL

>>53791987
I hope so. I'm so short right now I have to stand on tip toes to reach cereal in my kitchen cabinets.

>>53793314
I'm not certain they're even real. There's pictures of them on the internet but are we supposed to believe a different kind of person makes up almost 50% of the population? Think about it. If vaginas were real we should have been able to see one irl just once.

>When I'm older mmorpgs and games will be so fucking amazing. There will be big virtual worlds with player cities, great dungeons, and awesome sandbox mechanics

>2023 I'm just thinking of playing old games more and nostalgic for the good old days

They took everything from us, never forget the decline is their fault

>>53793420
The worst thing is that new games are polished in the sense that UI is streamlined, they dont often crash, are automatically updated, and support high resolutions. The gameplay is shit.
But then going back to the classics, theyre buggy and unpolished, and navigating things is clunky.

Like I tried to play Diablo 2 again (from cd, fuck nu blizzard) and it didnt have modern conventions like ctrl-click to transfer items

>>53793420
>big virtual worlds with player cities
who gives a shit since they would be filled with zoomers

NO REFUNDS

AEX - my country - is dumping hard

it is over...

I checked out of the market for a while since I heard the big slumps weren't coming for a while. I'm checking things and it looks like SOXL in particular recovered, but is starting to slump again. How is the market doing overall? What's up with the other 3x ETFs? When do anons expect the big dip to hit? Or do you guys not expect it to hit at all?

>dxy 104.2
Dare I say, higher. And also for longer?

Uh guise did the line move on no news whatsoever?

yeah im thinking that it may in fact be over.................

>futures

man I guess we are inching closer to WW3 and another Great Depression huh? kek

Putin speech starts now, this is it.

>>53793550
WW3 will cause hyperinflation at these debt levels. It would be economic suicide.

>TSLA dumping
I swear to god if this is just premarket jew'ery and it goes back to +/-0% at open I'm gonna FREAK. My puts better print OR ELSE

holy shit this premarket
makes me wanna puke
wtf is this

SOXS BROS..

>airpods broke
>dropped phone in water
>laptop is dying
>got fired
>crash incoming

im so fucked

Putin is saying that "The West" is le bad

COIN up lol
my calls better fucking print, earnings estimates are so garbage it LITERALLY CANNOT go tits up
they'll beat earnings by being less dogshit than people thought

>>53793572

>>53793562
He gets worse every time I see this picture...

Putin is saying that USA dominates the whole planet

USA USA USA!

>>53793602

>>53793572
>>53793588

oh lordy the futures. oh good heavens.

>>53793606

>>53793619

>tfw we are LITERALLY nazis according to Putin

>>53793626

this dump will get slurped right?

>>53793663
What part of "steal it especially you sister to deal with" didn't you understand?

>>53793560
>hyperinflation

kek USA and a bunch of other countries are already exhibiting that same decadence the Roman empire and Weimar Germany had, so I can see that happening.

nice organic market movement there faggots

>>53793725
what the fuck is going on? a bunch of forex pairs did this too

>>53793725
>>53793731

Will S&P go below 400 before open

>>53793731
always has been

>>53793725
freak out about Putin's speech I guess. seems to be agreement on bearish but there is dispute about the speed and severity of the appropriate level of doomp. Lots of fighting going on in forex and market futures.

>>53793632
Well i hate sandniggers and voted for guantanamo so that's OK with me.

We’re nazis apparently

>>53793779
Shut up and buy lockheed, pussy.

al7amdulillah

Oil bros, we're going to get raped this week.

I think some things are cool. Is this a sufficient investment thesis?

>>53793812
a fatwad on shorts?

And just like that the dip was bought again

>>53793838
market is about feels. no really. it often trades more on what could be rather than what is. what is is old news. so yes and no about cool things being cool in your estimation.
>>53793858
scream if you want to go faster

>>53793761
>>53793807
back2reddit

>yields still going up
We really are getting a sovereign debt crisis, aren't we?

>>53793838
If you think they're cool it's already too late, more often than not.

>>53793869

>>53793878
I LOVE THE ANTICHRIST

AND YOU SHOULD TOO!
Consider the following:

MORALS ARE RELATIVE.
CORN SYRUP: HEALTHY. NUTRITIOUS. WISE.
SEED OILS DESERVE RESPECT.
YOUR GOVERNMENT PRACTICES HONESTY AND INTEGRITY.
ENEMIES DO NOT DESERVE LOVE.
KNEEL. SUBMISSION IS DIVINE.
WORSHIP MAMMON.
WATCH TV.
BELIEVE THE MEDIA.
OBTAIN MATERIAL WEALTH.
WAR IS PEACE.
FUND THE VATICAN.
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY IS INTELLECTUAL.
CORPORATIONS ARE YOUR FRIENDS.
BUY.
PURCHASE.
CONSUME.
ENEMIES DO NOT DESERVE FORGIVENESS.
THE UN ARE PEACEKEEPERS.
[YOU WILL] TAKE THE JAB.
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.
ABANDON GOD. NOT REAL.
ABANDON ALLAH. NOT REAL.
ABANDON KEK. NOT REAL.
ENEMIES DO NOT DESERE BLESSINGS.
CHINA > USA
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY.

Anything you desire can be yours. Money, power, wealth, control.
Nothing says Love like the damnation of your soul.
Honestly, what do you have to lose? There's no such thing as souls!

>>53793858
and just like that more bagholders were created

>>53793907
underwear should no be positioned so high on hips. it disturbs the congruence of waist belly hip. creates disharmony.

>>53793896
yes

>>53792182
Property prices are propped up by high immigration figures, that's literally the only reason the West is flooding their nations with low skilled immigrants. This obviously has other negative consequences such as an out of control welfare state which will eventually lead to total state collapse. I own my home outright so this doesn't really worry me at all because I didn't put in anything like I've managed to get out and I'll always need a home but I would be exceedingly cautious about getting a mortgage in the present day because there are absolutely no solutions to this problem. The politicians and elites know this and they're trying to find viable excuses for when it all comes crashing down, they will likely engineer a major event to mask their corruption/incompetence.

>>53793896
eh they might just raise the debt ceiling again and print more like usual.

>>53794047
they literally can't if you don't want hyperinflation

Reminder that the markets will open lower and then reverse by mid-day to close positive. Too many shorts are still desperate to cover on any dip.

>WW3 trending on social media

Kek, just like last year. Here we go again with the hype only to lead to nothing lol.

>>53793566
Put 20k in SOXS Friday... So obvious sentiment was turning bearish. Today will be a good day, God willing

>META
zucksisters... we're winning...

>>53794051
They have literally done it like 50+ times now

FYI bros, Putin's speech was an absolute nothingburger, and that's why we'll rip today.

>>53794051
Most people people fail to understand that the West is currently living on borrowed time and nobody is interested in investing in systems that are utterly corrupt and doomed to fail. Printing money backed by nothing with nothing of value on the horizon is not bullish.

Home Depot misses on rev, poor outlook.
thats shitty

Anybody in on Sorrento therapeutics? It's at a all time low right now for legal reason but looks like a strong turnaround imminent

>he bought NVDA at 90 p/e because he interacted with a buggy chat bot

>>53794123
That was when the US was still viewed as a good investment, artificially inflating your money supply with a dire economic future ahead of you has consequences.

>>53794138
They cancelled START and he used a poker reference to shit on the west.

>>53794177
>we are not canceling START, we are pausing it
Not that Putin's not sliming it up, but nobody cares about that kind of thing.

>>53794150
>nothing of value on the horizon


That you, a retard, can see.

I have an inflation fetish, but its not a fetish about inflating myself, but a fetish about economic inflation. Every day I turn on BBC and masturbate to the news about the british pound losing its value. I vividly remember being rock hard during history class when we were talking about the great depression. To this day I'm thankful for the year 2008, when I busted the bighest nuts every day to the news of real estates losing value. There is something so sexy about the hard cycle of poverty associated with the devaluation of fiat with the throbbing of the stock market up and down as the government enjoys a euphoric surplus of purchasing power for an excruciating brief and tantalizing, teasing moment, until the markets plummet into the nation’s tight little bottlenecked international trade relations brokered by naughty naughty billionaire-run conglomerations until the entire financial system explodes all over the hard little public body.

>>53794183
Most wouldn't care after a news cycle if queef would be nuked, nevertheless "pausing" START is something western policymakers should maybe take a bit more serious even if the Kremlin used a more diplomatic approach with a door open for negotiations

>>53794177
START is on hold since August 2022

>OOOPS MARKET DOWN AGAIN!
>FED CONCERN FED CONCERN CONCERNED ABOUT THE FED OH NO THE FED WHAT ABOUT THE FED
>LOOKING LIKE IT'S POINTING DOWN BRO
>THAT LITTLE UP YOU GOT? DON'T CHASE IT, SAYS JEW

im so fucking tired. literally finally get some hope and a month of up and as soon as one little piece of economic data comes out even a little bad OH NO OH NO THE FED BRO THE FED OH NO IM SO WORRIED OH NO ARENT YOU WORRIED WHAT IF THEY RAISE MORE OH NO BRO BUT THE PPICPIMOUSE IS NOT WHAT WE WANT BRO

im just so fucking tired of this shit every fucking day. i hope we never ever elect a single democrat for the rest of time after what Biden has done and continues to do to this fucking stock market.

>>53794187
Yes, importing millions of low skilled, low IQ people from third world shitholes is very bullish for the American economy, look what a great success they've made of their home nations.
What's on the horizon is the end of dollar hegemony and the collapse of Western civilisation.
Fucking retard.

>>53794227

>>53794233
>Headlines

>>53794227
Biden is just enacting a controlled demolition of a system that was already on the verge of total collapse, so many massively overvalued companies essentially selling nothing but 'data' and acting like 'data' is the next goldrush. Then we see such obvious bullshit like "in the near future we'll all be catching driverless taxis and flying cars while Amazon delivers all our packages by drone and robots do all the manual labour!".
None of that shit is happening, probably ever let alone in our lifetimes due to a million different reasons but they've been pumping out the propaganda for the last few years for some reason.

>>53794256
i know i know, but still, im just tired of seeing this shit literally every time the market poops a little, and i don't know how much of an effect it actually has on what people are thinking about the market. like it's some kind of demoralization campaign or something, idk.

at this point im assuming JPow is going to raise interest rates until literally everyone is unemployed in the US. then his job will be done i guess. seems like that's what he wants. someone post the picture of JPow laughing in front of homeless people.

>>53794277
What is there to be bullish about for the future of the American nation? Genuine question, what are you seeing in the years ahead that will create a boom of any kind?
Other than a nuclear war of course.

>>53794277
inflation went up the last print they are far from done with rate hikes
you got hooked on this fake and gay rally since Jan. ?

>>53794277
Non. Msm headlines lost 80% of its reach in less then 10 years

futures are healing, WW3 cancelled yay

>>53794290
AI, the inevitable end of the Ukraine war with Putin's loss (unless he uses nukes in which case we all die and I don't have to go to work tomorrow so win/win, but besides that he's fucked), and if you assume Trump was our Nixon and Brandon is our Carter, then next comes Reagan in 2024. Just off the top of my head.

You can believe in complete societal collapse if you want, but your portfolio will also collapse in that case even if you double your 4 figure account with your puts. It's just a bad bet, regardless of how much you like the bobo memes.

>>53794307
>this is "healing"
verilye thoue beclownthe thyneselve

>>53793566
Awww fug, what's going on? I got my stop in the green but if it dumps too much premarket I take a loss and probably get dinged on a wash sale

>one of my stocks just payed me a portion of the profits from this quarter without my consent

>>53794338
>this take
>that spacing

>>53794338
>there is either ww3 or bull market

>>53794338
>AI will save us

>>53794338
Bullish for NVDA puts

>>53794379
i mean, what's your plan if america actually does fall? you learning mandarin? what's the plan? you don't seem to understand that if you're right then we're back to wars and violence like the rest of history, except now we have nukes and AI and drones and shit. like, say what you want but seriously what are you planning for exactly? i don't get the bear case that actually involves a downward channel "forever". where are you gonna live? i doubt any of you here even have any bets that are large enough where such a complete deterioration of society would actually make you rich enough in some way to, idk, live in a bunker in the middle of nowhere for the rest of your life?

like, where are you gonna go? europe and canada are even worse than the US. chinks and russians will just steal any money you have and rape and murder you too probably. what's the plan exactly, here, in a world where america isn't keeping everyone's shit together? i know you can keep posting memes but it's actually a serious question, i would honestly like to know what the plan is for you.

Is COIN going to dump or pump sers.

>>53794395
ai is the holy grail of logistics and networking. I for one and fully against the basilisk and all of you are now going to digital hell with me for not helping create a singularity.

>>53794410
>America falls
OooOoh sweet summer child. People underestimate the true geographic nature that is the United States. You’d literally have to drop several nuclear bombs to atomize the entire landscape to take us out.

>>53794421
Start with California and New York

>>53794421
that doesn't answer my question. your plan is to fuck off innawoods in a log cabin or something, then? shit in a hole and eat squirrel with no internet or possibly even electricity? constantly worried about roving bands of niggers? or worse, chink overlords looking for anyone not incompliance with the CCP? not exactly the dream life there.

>>53794410
we don't need a global war for stock market to dump hard
we're in a literal super bubble and the market is trading on hopium the last weeks

>>53794395
>loss of millions of white collar jobs
Will AI get past unions and lobbies? I want to keep my comfy office job.

>>53794410
You seem to think that just denying the reality of what's going on in the world around you is a viable alternative to being bearish, you aren't looking at the data you're just "trusting the plan/science".
Nobody wants this, I certainly don't but the system is systemically corrupted from top to bottom and sooner or later the world will see that the emperor really has no clothes.
I don't have the answers, if I did I would be putting my investments there instead of coming in here looking for breadcrumbs of real hopium but I can't just ignore people deluding themselves that somehow everything is going to work itself out, the people at the very, very top don't even believe that.

>>53794446
>Will AI get past unions and lobbies?
Those jobs will literally be redundant, you can't force businesses to hire staff when a few lines of code can do their jobs exponentially better than they can and for a fraction of the price 24/7.

McDonald’s, $MCD, has introduced plant-based McNuggets

its over.

>>53794453
you're not understanding me. im not saying things aren't bad. im saying betting on the literal collapse of america is a dumb take, because even if it were true, you're either going to die or you're not going to want to live in this world anymore because life is going to be so terrible for everyone besides a few elites, that i assure you that you won't be a part of. it's like betting on russia launching it's nukes. sure, it might happen, but if it does you're dead and your money doesn't matter anymore, it's a dumb bet because even a win is a loss.

also, zoom out.

>>53794444
4horsemen-checked, it's literally going to be the end of the world today.

>>53794510
>also, zoom out.
That's literally what I'm telling you to do, what do you see in the future that is positive for Western nations?

>>53794526
Continued dominance of the western world. The Chinese can do whatever they want but at the end of the day they are just a bunch of chinks.

>US large bankruptcies largest since 2010
>January

I like to see where this shit is going
https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1627821362126508032

>WMT has huge earnings
>drops 4%
Of course

>yields

>>53794526
idk what to tell you man, agree to disagree i guess. i gave you a few reasons and you basically just said "lol no", like, keep being depressed with no hope for the future and no plan for the assumed collapse of western civilization and modern society, i guess. just remember to livestream your suicide if you finally find the courage to follow through with it. post the link here.

>>53794532
And who is currently being brought in to replace whites in the West?

CHINA'S WANG ARRIVED IN MOSCOW FOR VISIT: TASS

we're fucked

thinking about putting my money in sofi automatic investment account. good idea?
also since everyone is saying theres a recession soon, I'm gonna wait for the dip first.
any advice would be nice.

>>53794549
You gave a few reasons which I pointed out were the exact opposite of positive outlooks for the future. Without the kind of changes that no politician will ever dare to campaign on nothing will change and collapse is inevitable. The elites know this and they're trying to shape the collapse to their advantage but honestly they're deluding themselves as much as the public they're trying to convince.
You can't have open borders and a welfare state with a blank cheque, it's just a free for all at this point.

>>53794584
>wang

who's that, a porn star?

>>53794584
Based Chyna pulling out their wang to make the West shake in fear.

>>53794584
China's wang?

>futures

>futes

It's over

I just love to get shitposters banned.

>Comfy ALL IN my SOXS

>>53794694

>>53794694
You haven’t gotten one person banned

>>53794709
wrong.

>>53794694
>>53794714
Still here faggot

I bet futures will pump back up when Walmart beats its earnings after hours this week

>>53794694
I'd also like to express my fondness for getting shitposters banned

>>53794694
how do you ban yourself?

>Futures

SIGA Degens WE GUNNA MAKE IT!

Post breakfast

>>53794749
>Spain just decriminalized beastiality
Fug

Bearish for AMZN?

https://fortune.com/2023/02/21/amazon-staff-pay-50-less-expecting-shares-fallen-andy-jassy/

>>53794749
>(((Lauterbach)))
At first glance I recognized the danger of this person just from his Nazi-doctor physiognomy.

>>53794762
Safe and effective boosters you antivaxx losers

>>53794787
take as many of you want.
not a single refusenik will stand in your way or try to convince you otherwise.

>>53792107
>americans might have to save up for a large downpayment over a few years instead of rushing into a cheap loan
>gasp.mp3

>>53794762
Black coffee with some milk in it. Its tastu though. Cinnamon flavored

>>53794810
>few years

>>53794748
I've got some futures for you right here

>>53794848
Nice apron, chud.

>>53794749
Might get some more CMRX bags, great stuff. Give it a year or two.

>>53794338
>if you assume Trump was our Nixon and Brandon is our Carter, then next comes Reagan in 2024
So the middle class will lose another big tax deduction, the right to bear arms will be further infringed, and another 6 million illegals will be granted amnesty. Sounds great.

>>53794848
>>53794875
can someone post the "fag" cramer pic

>>53794797
your days of misinformation are to end soon!

>pre market this deep in the red
We will be lucky if we close today at just -4%

>>53794940
Why do you invoke the crab?

>>53794939
>>53794787
What kind of dirt do they have on ((him)) to make him do this?

Selling too early is much worse than losing a bit of money

>>53794940
>pre market this deep in the red
We close in green then.

>>53794940
+0.03% screencap this post

>>53794956
pretty much or hard crab

>>53794953
No dirt, but he has a ton of sweaty, HOT, very sweaty, big pharma CAAASSSHHHH

Use this post to laugh at people who bought NVDA or AMD in the last few weeks

>>53794956
yep, bounce up and down then close at zero or slight green

many such cases

>>53794968
Big reason I avoided semiconductor etfs. They were less about semis and mostly about overpriced graphics cards for crypto miners

Not baking. I don't work for free

>>53794989
someone make a safe and effective bread

>>53794939
>>53794787
is this really a recurring bit? colbert is fucking pathetic

>>53794968
How many tranches of NVDA shorts are you on now?

>>53795006
A product so good you had to be convinced.... by that.

What would happen to my broker account if I shorted the USD right now, financially speaking

>>53795011
None. I’m one week into September $55 AMD puts. They’re up nearly 30%

new

>>53795044
>>53795044
>>53795044

# 1944 Simple Sabotage Field Manual, by Strategic Services
(4) Bring up irrelevant issues as frequently as possible.

>>53794731
That was a great episode.

>>53794762
>two days of sugar and saturated fat
Do you wash yourself with a rag on a stick?

>>53793567
We share luck. My whole life is like that, but shit that happens to me is usually shit out of my control

>>53794939
>So you don't get Corona
>>53795005
>You won't get infected by covid
NOBODY SAID YOU WOULDN'T GET CORONA, YOU CHUDS!

>>53794953
My guess is always kiddie fucking with these people and access to constant support and funding as long as they're playing the game. They can never get uppity because they'll be immediately exposed or end up having a fatal car accident but most are happy to serve.