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>> No.20863047
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.20863113
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* YESTERDAY'S TALLY *

>83,346: Suisei (Hololive)
>26,327: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>23,947: Gura (Hololive)
>20,493: Laplus (Hololive)
>20,405: Fauna (Hololive)
>19,724: Moona (Hololive)
>18,099: Patra (774 Inc.)
>17,969: Mumei (Hololive)
>13,593: Lui (Hololive)
>12,565: Towa (Hololive)
>11,978: Nazuna Kaga (VSPO)
>11,522: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>11,305: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>10,670: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,482: Ars (Nijisanji)
>10,410: Nui (Nijisanji)
>10,114: Akina (Nijisanji)

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>>20863113
>MARCH 2022 GOLD
1) Botan (Hololive) - 38,974 - Vampire Survivors
2) Nene (Hololive) - 91,087 - Birthday 3D Live
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 31,971 - ARK Collab
4) Roboco (Hololive) - 52,777 - Anniversary 3D Live
5) Miko (Hololive) - 125,971 - Birthday 3D Live
6) Hayase (Nijisanji) - 72,274 - 3D Debut
7) Miko (Hololive) - 49,481 - Horse Gacha
8) Suisei (Hololive) - 45,347 - Karaoke
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,779 - Clubhouse 51 Totsu
10) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 35,477 - Valorant custom
11) Sukoya (Nijisanji) - 35,475 - Return stream (3D)
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 35,894 - Return zatsu
13) Hololive (Hololive) - 66,854 - NePoLaBo idol outfits
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 49,843 - Pekozon
15) Koyori (Hololive) - 42,762 - Birthday totsu
16) Subaru (Hololive) - 35,166 - Vampire Survivors
17) Marine (Hololive) - 45,275 - Vampire Survivors
18) Hal (Neo Porte) - 114,763 . VSayko announcement
19) Hololive (Hololive) - 105,716 . Hololive 3rd Fes day 1
20) Hololive (Hololive) - 107,226 . Hololive 3rd Fes day 2
21) Marine (Hololive) - 35,102 . Vampire Survivors
22) Suisei (Hololive) - 83,346 - Birthday Karaoke + Announcement

TOTAL GOLD SO FAR
> PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji
1x: Neo Porte

> PER STREAMER
3x: Pekora, Hololive
2x: Suisei, Miko, Subaru, Marine
1x: Roboco, Hayase, Kuzuha, Sukoya, Botan, Nene, Koyori, Hal

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Yesterday's Superchats

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>>20863187
>3x Pekola

Strongest blue women !

>> No.20863495

March superchats so far
>Gaku - $204,913 (+$0)
>Vox - $112,998 (+$1,643)
>Koyori - $90,904 (+$1,138)
>Nene - $87,705 (+$448)
>Miko - $71,916 (+$0)
>Chloe - $69,885 (+$0)
>Leos - $67,340 (+$1,151)
>Mysta - $52,762 (+$2,941)
>Luca - $52,550 (+$0)
>Akina - $49,208 (+$0)
>Suisei - $49,075 (+$11,630)
>Lamy - $47,700 (+$242)
>Shu - $45,861 (+$0)
>Kronii - $39,365 (+$0)
>kson - $38,787 (+$0)
>Marine - $37,652 (+$0)
>Pekora - $37,228 (+$107)
>Iroha - $36,474 (+$0)
>Kana - $35,911 (+$0)
>Laplus - $35,697 (+$779)
>Flare - $33,756 (+$20)
>Ike - $33,271 (+$196)
>Kiara - $32,737 (+$0)
>Watame - $31,310 (+$1,807)
>IRyS - $30,283 (+$20)
>Noel - $30,327 (+$2,173)

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Girl already peaked at 4k. Damn.
What were they thinking?

>> No.20864615

Vtuber is declining

>> No.20864658

>>20864012
Ponto...

>> No.20864710
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<- declining.

>> No.20864751

>>20864012

>Manjisanji

nah 4k is actually pretty good for her tier. How many view she has back then?

>> No.20864840

>>20864615

Everything will eventually decline someday anon...

>> No.20864882

>>20864751
>debut buff already wore off
Ponto got 10k in her first stream after debut

>> No.20864930

>>20864751

>4k actually pretty good for her tier
>literally debuted 2 days ago to almost 50k people

lol

>> No.20864931

So when will Cover put out their financial statement? They probably made tons of money from the Fes and Expo.

>> No.20864938

>>20864840
Except my love for my oshi

>> No.20864957

In what’s about to be 4 hours, Gura’s Reflect MV is 14k likes down and 800 messages to Mori’s recent 3D MV.

.. Mori’s MV is over 30 hours older than Reflect. What a fucking monster Gura is Jesus christ

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Everybody's saying Reine's numbers tonight are the result of a massive stack of buffs, but I'd be curious to see if she's on any kind of general upward trend in CCV or VOD views since she started doing so many more EN collabs and less freetalks lately.

>> No.20865026

>>20864012
Man, their rate of decline is mind boggling. Can she avoid the fate of the 1K shitter?

>> No.20865035

>>20864931
Not until April at the soonest, no?

>> No.20865109

>>20864957
Reflect is an old song too. No one in the vtuber world these days can match the amount of reach Gura has. She is a celeb even for popular vtubers

>> No.20865149

>>20865026
>1k shitter
>not Aizono, Elipha tier
At this point, 1k is success story for her anon

>> No.20865264

>>20864882
is she the new academy girl? I guess it would make sense for Cover to do something like that too especially for EN VTubers that need to learn how to be proper idols and stop Mori from pulling them down into the world of alcoholism and self-hate.

>> No.20865297

>>20864963
Hard to say because Rene's numbers are carried by Elden Ring right now. Her usual stream choices are major filters so any buff she does get doesn't last long.

>> No.20865391

>>20865264
>talking about ranunculus
>suddenly Mori
rent free
Speaking of which, bloodborne still at 11k

>> No.20865420
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A Vspo girl just annihilating this new Niji.
Nips weren't kidding when they say Vspo is now only second to Hololive.

>> No.20865430

>>20865297
Yea. Her love of VN type games means that oh boy, her numbers are SHIT for them. (See : 999 and the rest of the games in that series, AI: Somnium files, etc)

>> No.20865458

>>20864957
Retarded anons questioning Gura's decision to withhold the MV until after she performed Reflect at Holofes are about to be even more shocked. At the rate its going, I predict at least half a million in the first day, for a fucking MV to a 1 year old song.

>> No.20865503

>>20865420
Vspo and Niji are fighting for that 2nd place

>> No.20865524

>>20864963
Tonight for Reine was the result of Fauna and Mumei doing a member stream, IRyS/Mori/Kronii all streaming at 11 PM EDT and nobody in HoloEN streaming during NA primetime.

>> No.20865639

>>20865420
The thing is Vspo has so much potential. They can only go upwards from now on. Nijisanji is stagnating. It's really bad when being a Niji is no longer a badge of honor for the vtubers.

>> No.20865844

>>20865503
Nijisanji is doing badly against all-female groups.
I think Neo Porte would be the final dagger for Nijisanji with their mixed gender policy.

>> No.20865870

>>20865639
Nijisanji has not been the badge since 2021. And they dare to launch a 2nd VTA with ESTABLISHED streamers.

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https://news.denfaminicogamer.jp/interview/220318a
>good collaboration
>revived Poker Chase
>8th place in google play rankings
Why don't they explain that it took a 3D dokuzusha stream, a 3D popular males stream and a freaking tourney to revive the game? It would cost hundreds of thousands for a company to sponsor this shit from Niji.

>> No.20866307

>>20864930
>>20864882

Currently watching her stream. Can't really find out any strong point of her. She just so bland, and her voice is not particularly unique. To me that's why 4k for a talking stream is pretty solid, even with debut buff.

>> No.20866330

>>20863187
Hololive is unassailable for now with their strong grip of the EN market + idol/singing concert capability group image.
Nijisanji is on a downtrend after getting besieged by groups like Vspo/Neo Porte who have shown competence when it comes to gaming and general entertainment and with the rising prominence of pro streamers in JP.

>> No.20866353

>>20865870
Even 2view indies wouldn't want to join VTA and be shackled

>> No.20866554

>>20866307

yeah, i watched a bit of her poke arceus stream and besides the most scuffed lag i have ever seen, she is very.. boring. this whole group feels like they will be in the lower end of niji by next month

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Vspo is just downright demolishing Nijisanji head-to-head.
This doesn't look good.

>> No.20866649

>>20864070
thats what they get for hiring a bunch of whores
gura is understandable because she got too popular too fast and didnt really get to build her own audience (and she got cumbuds instead...ouch) but the others just dont give a shit

>> No.20866718

>>20866564
I assume you had to take this at the moment Luca was just starting streaming or this narrative wouldn't work very well.

>> No.20866732

>>20865639
vspo needs to pay aqua to stream apex to keep it relevant because their company is dead without

>> No.20866864

>>20866732
Their Minecraft stream is doing pretty good right?

>> No.20866933

>>20866718
you are replying to bait

>> No.20866980
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Clining.

>> No.20866984

Man, NeoPorte and VSPO might come for Nijisanji audience while Hololive always seems unscathed.
is there no competitor that can overlap their audience with Hololive?

>> No.20866999

qrd me on why people say Miko is a rapist

>> No.20867013

Stop biting obvious bait, especially bait that's been used day in and day out good lord. Do you faggots have nothing better to do?

>> No.20867034

>>20866984
Holo got to wehre it is because of a alot of work AND incredible amounts of luck.

>> No.20867035

https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000388.000056982.html

>> No.20867041

>>20866999
She raped a loli behind a combini in 1997.

>> No.20867048

>>20867013
>Do you faggots have nothing better to do?
where do you think we are

>> No.20867059

Elden ring sponsorship for JP

https://twitter.com/nicogame_PR/status/1506481378208411649

>> No.20867071

>>20866999
pekomiko christmas offcollab

>> No.20867098

>>20867013
>SEA hours

>> No.20867193

>>20866984
Hard to do. Hololive has the backing of YT algo, clippers, and foreign fans. Any new company need to carve out their own niche

>> No.20867249

>>20867035
>>20867059
Poor Kuzuha, he's the only guy getting 20k+ on elden yet hasn't gotten a from sponsorship

>> No.20867257

>>20866984
all the apex whores dont want to commit to the idol business so no

>> No.20867262

>>20867035
Why niconico? Is this sponsored?

>> No.20867273

>>20866999
Migo raped me

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Saw that Cover had that tweet looking for a Operations director for StarsEN and noticed that they used the same link that was posted back in February but renamed the position to include (Male Talents).
Looks like the girls might be stuck with Omega.
On a sidenote, the English Hologra listing got removed and same with assistant operations director.

>> No.20867282

>>20867035
To save a click
>Noel+Lamy Elden Ring (sponsored stream?)
>On Nico Nico, March 24, 2022 (Thursday) 19:00 JST
>PS4, multiplayer, boss attack with viewers (password to be released during the stream).

>> No.20867291
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>>20867059
<ELDEN SCHiZO, DON’T LOOK!
>GEN5SCHIZO, DON’T LOOK!
If you sent this six months to the past and said
>Hologirls will not only be playing FromSoft games but will be ***getting paid*** to do it
people here would be claiming “fake and gay”

>> No.20867307

>>20867035
>>20867059
Another game sponsorship from NND? I wonder why they didn't get it directly from the publisher, just like Pokemon sponsorship.

>> No.20867339

>>20867249
Nah, Botan and Lamy have gotten 20k on it too.
He is the only one from Niji getting good numbers for Elden Ring tho and he's almost done the game already.
Reine and Risu got sponsored by From too so who knows how it works.

>> No.20867348

>>20866330
>Holo is unassailable with their strong grip in the EN market
>losing relevancy in EN
>being passed over for sponsorships for NijiEN
>no longer invited to conventions, instead VShojo and Niji are
>their viewerships are tanking more than ever while other companies are inclining
>subs slowing at a glacial rate while Vox has the RECORD BREAKING FASTEST GROWTH for a Vtuber
????

>> No.20867354

>>20867279
>english hologra listing got removed
EN hologra soon. Imagine the numbers.

>> No.20867374

>>20866984
Holos marketed themselves as an "idol" group. Even if it was a joke, they have already differentiated themselves from the competition. It also helps that Holos are actually entertaining and very talented too.
Nijisanji has so much overlaps with everyone exacerbated by the fact that their buff contents are tournaments, which means other smaller groups like Vspo would benefit from it too and maybe steal some of their audience.

>> No.20867394

>>20867098
Anon, I'm going to keep harping because this is less "SEA hours" and more "Free-for-all hours".
At this time we have
>LatAM, 9pm-12midnight
>North America, the same
>SEA, Assorted Lunch times
Can't blame just SEA at this time, that's more JP primetime shitposting in english.

>> No.20867398

>>20867279
Probably found enough people to increase their 3D skits output.

>> No.20867405

>>20867307
>I wonder why they didn't get it directly from the publisher
Maybe it’s easier for the gaming company to just give NND a budget, some targets to meet and let them sort it out

>> No.20867414

>>20867339
>From
Bandai Namco SEA

>> No.20867446

>>20867257
>towa runs the sex discord to eliminate the competition
>towa is the most powerful holomem

>> No.20867468

>>20867307
both owned by Kadokawa

>> No.20867481

>>20867273
KWAB

>> No.20867497

>>20867307
I think it's similar to Twitch where game companies give them money to sponsor people and NND is giving those sponsorships to Hololive.

>> No.20867541

>>20867291
OH, NO NO NO N O
Schizos don't look

>> No.20867546

>>20865844
isn't Neo Porte mixed?

>> No.20867554

>>20867374
Other vtuber agencies also do idol-like stuff, but how come Hololive is the only one with huge success?

>> No.20867555

>>20867497
Should have given them to Niji instead. Much cheaper and more viewers

>> No.20867563

>>20867348
>record breaking fast growth
Where were you in 2020/2021?

>> No.20867585

>>20867348
>conventions
Really? VShojofags are making mental gymnastics to cope with the fact they're now undeniably a corpo.
>Vox has the RECORD BREAKING FASTEST GROWTH for a Vtuber
Even more than early Gura?

>> No.20867626

>>20867585
Stop samefagging your own bait faggot

>> No.20867636

>>20866999
>is a lesbian had relationship with woman before
>wanted to rape Pekora (and probably did) since 10 years ago

>> No.20867635

After HoloFes3, any big companies would be stupid to not give their sponsorship to Hololive with how well they perform in VOD and live viewership.

Can any other vtuber companies reach this height?

>> No.20867652

>>20867348
Not a single point you losted is true.

>> No.20867700 [DELETED] 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcs3mrrcKIA

>> No.20867705

>>20867554
Do they have idol concerts on the same scale as Hololive?
Maybe the vtubers on the chink side have had these but who watches them anyway.

>> No.20867717

>>20867546
It is. Maybe that’s his point, that they’ll encroach on Nijis turf, with an advantage of being an explicit esports group, able to ride the current APEX wave

>> No.20867725

https://twitter.com/achan_UGA/status/1506485537821331456

>> No.20867743

>>20867348
Anon have you been in a coma for the last month or something?

>> No.20867781

>>20867554
unicorns

>> No.20867817

>>20867700
Who?

>> No.20867856

>>20867725
Holy hell, Cover is throwing it's body weight around after the success of Holofes 3

>> No.20867889

>>20867555
No entertaining Niji Elden Ring players. The best they could get is probably Ibrahim because of his mage build, but that's about it.

>> No.20867937

>>20867348
You are so wrong in every regard, that it's completely bait at this point.

>> No.20867962

>>20867817
Just gave it a quick listen, obvious who it was, the voices are too distinct.

>> No.20867965

>>20867937
Then stop replying to obvious bait nigger

>> No.20867968

>>20867725
https://www.joysound.com/web/s/karaoke/contents/video/hololive
That's a whole heap of videos.

>> No.20867975

>>20867554
Their kinda the only relevant ones at the moment outside Nijisanji who recently had all their shit cancelled either from everyone catching COVID or the Nipple Incident.

UPD8 fucked itself and Kizuna Ai is retired, the rest of the former kings faded to 3views, and the other idol based companies are way too small to compete.

>> No.20868025

>>20867937
>Knows it's bait
>SAYS It's bait
>Responds anyway like an idiot when other people have already done the same
Legit what is wrong with you?

>> No.20868038

>>20867405
Yeah check that interview with the marketer thst was posted earlier and last thread. You need a proper marketing strategy to take advantage of such sponsorships and NND has the experience to do this.

>> No.20868045

>>20867965
No.

>> No.20868070

>>20867962
Yeah, gave it a listen. What's the context on this?

>> No.20868082

>>20867071
Is this just a rrat because pekora distanced herself to Miko after this?

>> No.20868093

>>20867968
>No Ahoy
>Only Stellar Stellar for Suisei
>So many Watame's songs
Weird...

>> No.20868116

>>20867554
They have resources to do concerts like Holofes and actually deliver on the idol experience.

>> No.20868143

>>20867975
>the rest of the former kings faded to 3views
Luna is rip
Akari and Siro are literal whos
NO ONE EVEN KNOWS WHO NOJALOLI IS

>> No.20868152

>>20867554
>>20867975
also .live which supposed to function just like hololive got destroyed by Sio

>> No.20868181

>>20868093
They'll be available as DLC.

>> No.20868184

>>20868093
Ahoy is tricky to lisence because it's partially owned by iosys which is apparently some kind of legal quagmire when it comes to copyright related issues

>> No.20868194

>>20867279
Oh yeah EN having 3d models means they can do legit HoloGra

>> No.20868214

>>20867975
I can't believe Sora outlived Kizuna Ai

>> No.20868246

>>20868093
I'm sure more will get added later. Watame and her manager probably just had the time to go through and approve everything so all her stuff went in.

>> No.20868267

>>20867035
>>20867059
How come Kuzuha never gets sponsorships like that.
He's also playing Elden Ring like an autist lately.

Is Nijisanji really going bankrupt?

>> No.20868287

>>20868143
Doesn't help that nojaloli retired shortly after the four Kings label became solidified so he never got to gain a large following

>> No.20868289

>>20868070
Some old stuff from 2017, but I'm not sure why it's relevant to /#/ and the poster probably meant to drop it off somewhere else, so they deleted it instantly.

>> No.20868307

>>20867554
>Other vtuber agencies also do idol-like stuff, but how come Hololive is the only one with huge success?
>>20867705
>Do they have idol concerts on the same scale as Hololive?
Kamitsubaki. The Strawberry Princes.

It’s not the fact Hololive does “virtual idol” stuff that differentiate them, otherwise they would be a mid level virtual idol company handicapped by the fact they don’t use IRL people not hidden behind the avatars in their concerts, unlike those two mentioned above.
Hololive differentiates itself by not only doing “idol stuff” but doing regular gaming and variety live streaming on top of it, bridging two markets
>capturing people that would be interested in gaming streams, variety streams and introducing them to the “song and dance” side of Japanese culture
>capturing people that are already familiar to the “song and dance” side of Japanese culture and introducing them to live streaming

In my view it’s this two way bridge that makes Hololive unique in the market

>> No.20868308

>>20868194
>HoloGra
Finally, Calli won't be cringe in those
They'll be on the EN main ch huh? Just like homos on their own main ch

>> No.20868313

>>20868214
It helps that Cover is somewhat competent and lucky as hell, good god Watamage compared to upd8

>> No.20868336

>>20868267
nipple incident

>> No.20868341

>Suisei saw the Mito eraser in the Expo and mention wanting Mito to do a cameo on Hologra

will it happen bros?

https://youtu.be/6oMazE1ds4o

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I compared their hiring page from 2 months ago to right now and it seems cover has been busy.
Pic related is how many positions they closed.

>> No.20868366

>>20868308
Hologra is main channel only you idiot

>> No.20868371

>>20868308
If it's written by JP Mori will be kakkoi. If it's written by EN she'll be a cringelord autist.

>> No.20868447

>>20868346
Talent manager for indonesia ? Don't they have one already ?

>> No.20868470

>>20868336
Didn't all affected sponsorships include Lauren?
It doesn't seem to be a problem if he isn't involved.

But for some reason Kuzuha was not considered for this.
This tells you all you need to know about how Nijisanji is being seen from the industry.

I don't think 2023 will see them as healthy as people believe.

>> No.20868479

>>20868214
Kizuna Ai I feel like was already done with everything for a while now and was just coasting along until she had a good reason to stop. But yeah having UP8 bumblefuck everything does that.
>>20868143
The fact that I genuinely forgot about Luna despite having watched some of her videos ever since her debut says a lot.

>> No.20868492

>>20868447
>one
They need more than one, specially on the verge of debuting a new gen

>> No.20868505

>>20868152
Just imagine in other universe .live actually become as big as Hololive and Siro become daisenpai

>> No.20868529

>>20868308
If they're exclusively on the EN channel than Cover is retarded. Both foreign and domestic audiences are always thirsting for crossover collabs of any kind.
Foreigners because JP holos are the classics to them, and JP audience because it fills them with national pride to basically have foreign branches that are successful and love Japan/ the JP holos.

>> No.20868542

>>20868447
ID3 is coming soon so they'll need one for them. Preferably several actually

>> No.20868561

>>20868341

unity seems more of a thing on the JP side so i won't be surprised if it happens, honestly

>> No.20868564

>>20868307
This. Idolfags get to know their oshi much closer through streams, thus strengthening their bond, normalfags get indoctrinated into idolfaggotry and end up buying more merch and concert tickets.

>> No.20868567

>>20868143
Eh, Siro is still doing ok

>> No.20868585

>>20868470
>was not considered for this
Who even said that? Could simply be
>hey Kuzuha, wanna play a sponsored Elden Ring?
>no, thanks, I’m fully booked

>> No.20868590

>>20868341
It'll never happen. Nijinigger tribalists will throw a fit.

>> No.20868620

>>20868505
That would also be the world where Brave Group isn't managed by retards and Gamebu would be the No1 Vtuber group of all time

>> No.20868625

>>20868341
after YAGOO buys out the corpse of nijishitty in a couple years she'll show up and do the job to triple lapu, KWAB

>> No.20868657
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>>20868371

>> No.20868656

>>20868585
>fully booked
>playing ER and custom match lol for 20 hours
Nah, King autism is a turn off for sponsors

>> No.20868675

>>20867374
Honestly Nijisanji might as well just rebrand to a male only company. All of their most talent female streamers get shit numbers and have to work second jobs to make a living. They should just relinquish them to Hololive at this point. Niji can have Homostars in return

>> No.20868683

>>20868590
Wut? Honma was in Polka no densetsu. Hoshikawa was on Haachama bday Live.

Why would they throw a fit with a Mito cameo on Hologra?

>> No.20868690

>>20868561
I also thought unity exists for EN until the ventgate. Now I see all nijien as numberfags.

>> No.20868698

>>20868590
>Nijinigger tribalist
NijiEN fans don't watch jp livers anon, we established this ages ago

>> No.20868700

>>20867968
>No Subaru
Yeah people won't ever know she has 2 orisongs at this point...

>> No.20868757

>>20868447
Honestly the most shocking thing to me is that they don't have an Operations Director for StarsEN yet.
And they already put out an audition.

>> No.20868780

>>20868529
>>20868657
>As a scriptwriter for the new animation content of the "official youtube channel of hololive english"
too late

>> No.20868808

>>20868657
Just have Ame do it. They won't make anything better than she would anyway.

>> No.20868816

>>20868675
That's way too many refugees to take in for Hololive. Hololive's Golden Willy Wonka ticket approach has been working well.

>> No.20868822

>>20868590
Honma already appeared on Polden. Niji and HoloJP aren't as tribalist as the EN. Most of the anti posts you see on 5chan usually come from vtuber anti in general.

>> No.20868826

>>20868700
>subaru
>doesnt even put her first orisong on youtube
it's her own fault

>> No.20868864
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Even 3Ds are doing 1M countdown celebrations

>> No.20868882

>>20868690
This. I was certainly never a fan of NijiEN but I was indifferent towards them and would even put on a stream sometimes when there was no Holo streaming. After the leaks however I actively hate them. I'm sure there are others like me.

>> No.20868902

As their growth rate, Cover might become a conglomerate instead of just an entertainment agency.
Can you imagine Cover outsourcing their properties to game developers like Platinum, Bamco or From?

>> No.20868907

>>20868590
Does Mito give a fuck about Niji tribalists though?

>> No.20868956

>>20868864
That makes sense for anybody. 1 million is a huge milestone.

What doesn't make sense is doing your 300k celebration stream AFTER your 350k celebration stream and then doing your 400k celebration stream the very next week because you were actually already at 390k when you did your 300k celebration stream.

>> No.20868990

>>20868902
>Platinum
I have difficulty imagining them even surviving next couple of years, to be honest.

>> No.20868999

>>20868902
>outsourcing their properties to game developers like Platinum, Bamco or From
You surely mean “licensing”. And instead of “conglomerate” maybe you mean a “franchise”?

>> No.20869010

>>20868816
True but I at least wish Cover could saviorfag the really talented 3views who have major singing chops like Levi, Mikoto and Chima, or the god tier entertainer 3views like Sango and Chigusa. I imagine Sanbaka would never be on the table since they're all still super successful despite being nijifemales

>> No.20869019

>>20868470
Nips autism in PR related business isn't something we can understand

>> No.20869069
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>>20869010
One day you guys will give in and accept TRADE ALERT anon was right the whole time

>> No.20869083

>>20869010
Cover can only saviorfag chuubs that apply for them. Chuuba must have the will to be saved first.

>> No.20869095

>>20868564
true, i'm on the latter end. Came into Hololive with meme videos, experienced moments like these in real time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8BSGlkja-E
enjoyed karaokes and 3d streams from migo and her story, then watched 2nd fes and got fully indoctrinated god damnit.

>> No.20869108

>>20868999
Sure, sure, I'm not too knowledgeable about business stuff. But that's the gist

>> No.20869116

>>20868902
>>20866276
Just look at this, influencer marketing/promotions had been becoming more mainstream lately and Hololive/Nijisanji had revived tons of games that a solo Japanese streamer couldn't. Both companies had become the de factor promotional tools for Japanese companies since TikTok has yet to gain a bigger traction there because of the oldies. It's a given that Cover would become a better choice than Niji, since Niji can't tardwrangle their talents or their talents doesn't have enough clout to promote something, other than having a large twitter engagement.

>> No.20869121

>>20868902
Still a long way towards that. Video game development costs can rival big box office movie productions.

Hololive I can expect however collaborating with ArcSystem or a company similar as a possibility since they tend to work with companies similar in size to Cover (Rooster Teeth in particular)

>> No.20869148

>>20868346
Something that's interesting is that Cover got their shit together and started properly advertising their positions.
In September 2021: We are looking for a recruiter who will be a key player in large scale recruitment!
In December 2021: Mid-career recruiter

>> No.20869159

>>20869069
Fuck that, matuli is worth at least 5 of nijis

>> No.20869177

>>20868902
Kadokawa as parent company, Hololive anime production in the works onegai

>> No.20869193

>>20868808
They actually want something done on a scheduled basis anon, not something done well once or twice and then dropped.

>> No.20869212

>>20869010

chigu would do so much better on holo.. i like her and if she is happy it's ok but goddamn looking at her views hurt a bit

>> No.20869220
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What is happening with Luca's stream?

>> No.20869246

>>20869177
>holomen already taking VA classes
I BELIEVE

>> No.20869307

>>20869220
People just found out NijiEN's minecraft is boring, and tune in to see if SC reading is there

>> No.20869335

>>20869220
The usual CCVID I assume

>> No.20869350

>>20869108
I agree that Hololive will end up becoming a franchise and, instead of doing everything in house they’ll license the characters and lend the girls for ambitious projects by these game companies.

Hell, they even did lend the girls for absolute shovelware dating simulator
https://forpc.app/obsessive-love-adventure-utsuros-diary

I can easily see them doing something like a crossover with Princess Connect

>> No.20869361

>>20869246
HoloGra is unironically a good training ground for Voice Acting now that I think about it.

>> No.20869365

>>20867354
feel like the EN hologra should be more slice of life-ish and coherent, at least initially. The Myth bond has been a big sell for the EN audience, just watching them all live in a house and hijinks with occasional outside adventures in episodic format would be a pretty good sell I think? It helps that the gens so far are pretty coherent together.

>> No.20869415

>>20868307
>Kamitsubaki
They are a singing group not an idol
>>20867554
There's this Vidol group called ENOGU. Although small atm, They are the most active idol group (along with 27/7, but they kinda 2.5D) and had their national tour last year

>> No.20869419

>>20869069
yagoo is losing on this one

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>>20869069
How many nijien cucks can we trade pic related for?

>> No.20869485

>>20869365
So just literally this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyuAdljyvoc

>> No.20869487

>>20868308
>>20868371
Nah, bro. She'll be extra cringe because she can't sell an acted line for shit. Ina might actually compete with her in this regard as well, but Ina has the excuse of not being a stage person.

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>>20869463
Fuck off
t. sanallite

>> No.20869556

>>20869415
>singing group not an idol
For the purpose of this conversation and just to keep things simple let’s use “idol” as a shorthand for “does song and dance concerts”, in the same way nips use “live” as a short hand for “concerts” regardless of whether they’re pre recorded or in real time.
It keeps the conversation simpler without needing to enter the nuances of what differentiates “idols” from “singing groups”

>> No.20869573

>>20869350
>Hololive licensing the characters
I hope they don't go the way of Games Workshop with Warhammer. Tons of shovelware games.

>> No.20869614

>>20869485
Holy fucking shit Kiara's acting is so god awful, seriously what the fuck is wrong with her? Even Calli and Ina are doing far better

>> No.20869634

>>20869121
If you do it the retarded AAA way, sure.

>> No.20869659

How's the Smol Ame gun clip doing today? The clip is probably the most liked Hololi-related tweet by now.

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>>20869148
Between September 21 2021 and January 7 2022 they only closed 3 positions.
So whatever recruitment drive they had after January 7 managed to get them 25 more employees.

>> No.20869687

>>20869614
Give it time
I mean, just look at the 1st ever Hologra. that shit is cringefest

>> No.20869728

>>20869659
Why did that clip blow up so hard anyway? I didn't find it funny or even chuckle worthy

>> No.20869751

>>20867700
I never caught this one, thank you.

Jesus christ I will eternally be sad that they no longer are a thing.... but miko gets more and more perfect in my eyes.

>> No.20869774

>>20869728
Smol ame with a gun anon thats enough

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>>20869659

>> No.20869802

>>20869634
That or the Square Enix way.

>> No.20869810

>>20869728
Not everything has to cater to your taste and comedic sensibilities faggot

>> No.20869823

>>20869728
nips love ame

>> No.20869834

>>20869810
Seethe harder teamate

>> No.20869837

>>20869220
Sonny did gorilla stream minecraft right after he started and has 4k views.

>> No.20869852

>>20869010
>Chigusa
Don't remind me of that dumbo. What a fuckin waste!

>> No.20869890

>>20869687
I still remember when Coco's mic during HoloGra sounded like it was recorded in a bathroom.

>> No.20869932

>>20869121
>Video game development costs can rival big box office movie productions
While that’s true, take Vampire Survivors. Fun little game with an interesting mechanics, must have costed next to nothing for the creators to make.

It’s just “AAA” companies using Silicon Valley “infinite money” that are spending too much money to make things that aren’t worth the investment.

Cover could make a game with a simple mechanics like turn based “attack / defense“ from MtG, make the girls creatures, add a gacha element to unlock alternative versions of the girls and make “a million dollars” with it

>> No.20869957

>>20869890
Pretty sure that's just how Coco sounds like

>> No.20869981

>>20869556
>does song and dance concerts”,
>Dance
KAF...
Ojou...
RIME...
Haru-nee...
KOKO...

>> No.20869996

>>20869802
Have one ultra blockbuster MMO and waste money it makes on get rich quick schemes, ruining your reputation in process?

>> No.20870034

>>20869932
I can see that yeah. What's the most likely studio you think would make a Hololive game?

>> No.20870037

>>20868700
Subaru is still on the 'getting confidence in her singing' rollercoaster. The subatomos keep pushing her but it's slow going.

>> No.20870074

>>20869778
The funny thing is he's not the original uploader

>> No.20870095

>>20869932
Cover could make their own rhythm game, at least.

>> No.20870149

>>20869996
FFXIV is really carrying the company on it's back isn't it. I feel like half the money in FFXIV makes is just pissed away in every venture outside Final Fantasy.

>> No.20870152

>>20870034
If I were to guess I would say Cygames. They have the money, expertise and clearly didn’t bend the knee to zhangs given that they did partnerships with Hololive after the chinkout

>> No.20870158

>>20868902
Unless Bayonetta 3 finally comes out and is a massive success Platinum will be lucky to survive until Nintendo or Sony buys them.

>> No.20870207

>>20868690
Unity never existed in the EN-side
the only thing that existed was the Pomu-Kiara connection and that's it

Holos never interracted with Nijis even when the Nijis tried

you are lying to yourself thinking there was unity even before the leaks

>> No.20870227

>>20867856
Holofes 3 is probably gonna work as a good recruitment drive advertisement as well.
Last year they used the HoloAlt announcement to try to drive recruitment.

>> No.20870264

I think lending their franchise is really good idea especially if they collab with small time game dev. Not only both can incline if the dev know how to make interesting and fun shit, Hololive would also gain some serious clout from as a supportive and interactive corpo with the community

>> No.20870274

>>20870152
Cygames seems the most likely yeah. Isn't the Director of Granblue Fantasy partly responsible for the recent upgrade in HoloFes' Hologram tech?

>> No.20870318

>>20869981
this is how the witches "dance"
https://youtu.be/6rOruuCxY7k

>> No.20870333

>>20870207
agree, JP and ID yes, but En ehhh....

>> No.20870384

>>20869981
Harusaruhi and Koko is not that bad. The other three is a statue.

>> No.20870396

>>20870207
There was the desire for unity. For some reason people kept insisting “how kino a collab between HoloEN X and nijiEN Y would be!”.
I genuinely never understood that angle, most collars between people that are not already familiar with each other are a either a borefest of two streamers fulfilling a professional scheduled appointment, or a complete trainwreck with each streamer becoming a hammer up parody of himself to give the audience what they were looking for.

>> No.20870413

>>20870318
lmao

>> No.20870444

>>20870318
This gives me Holofes 1 vibes

>> No.20870455

>>20870318
Feels like I'm watching JP Pentatonix

>> No.20870542

>>20870318
>chink AR

>> No.20870579

>>20869485
ehh sure but without the space thing, more like in london or new york or something.

Someplace where a detective office could plausibly be as an introduction. Spaceship thing could come in the 2nd season when council gets its own 3d and appears as the bumbling good natured opposition to council that can occasionally become op when serious, same as myth. Not sure how 'Hope' figures into the picture yet, but she can be something, maybe big bad angel of 'hope and despair', or played straight as just an ally of 'hope'. instead of traveling through space, travel through multiverse (ameverse).... ok that's expanding the budget a bit too much... but anyways season 1 could be mainly SoL set in London as Watson's office becomes the living ground for various 'myths', or starts that way and episodes that show how she meets them.

>> No.20870592

>>20870152
I don't know how much capacity they have due to work on Relink but their mobile game division has the room.

>> No.20870651

>>20870413
>>20870444
>>20870455
>>20870542
IT'S SOVL!!!

>> No.20870726

>>20870318
You know the part that cracked me up was that one of the witches had the shaky leg.

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>> No.20870757

>>20870207
There was some signs before that happened. Kiara/Pomu and Calli interacting with Luxiem. I can also see Bae and Mumei doing the same.

>> No.20870821

Did I suddenly take a left turn into /wt/? /infinity/? what the hell is going on

>> No.20870827

>>20870651
anima was a bit of improvement. wish they clipped the full v.w.p songs. https://youtu.be/l-M_rROTTUg

>> No.20870830

>>20868907
She doesn't care about antis targeting her, but if it affects other party, then she'll feel afflicted.

>> No.20870865

>>20870737

Kinda funny Neo Porte already being higher than all of below but even not counting the new debuts there's like Hal and Reid there already so i can't really disagree...

>> No.20870873

>>20870542
They use the same tech as HoloFest3 here anon.
>Also speaking of chink
During the bilibili fest, chink women were literally hysterical whenever KAF showed up on stage

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>>20870651
I dont like the mmd look lol reminds me of holofes 2

>> No.20870953

>>20868690
ventgate is quite powerful.

>> No.20870999

>>20870932
isn't this their in-house AR?

>> No.20871065

>>20870737
Too soon to say anything about neo porte, they've only got one debut and I don't think he's even properly streamed yet.
Also putting 774 and kamitsubaki on the same level is retarded

>> No.20871086

>>20869365
>feel like the EN hologra should be more slice of life-ish and coherent, at least initially
>>20870579
>Someplace where a detective office could plausibly be as an introduction. Spaceship thing could come in the 2nd seas-
And that, kids, is how you turn a 3 min long MMD animated (by an in house staff on their off time) low budget non sensical 3 lines per girl 1M views per episode show that recoups part of the costs in ad revenue alone into a full blown multiple writers, proof readers, animators behemoth of a show costing five figures per episode and tying the girls up on never ending recording sessions.

Reminds me of Taz, from Looney Tooneys.

It went from this
https://youtu.be/4qT4ypTuGLM
to this
https://youtu.be/5tqxuNAX5C8

The opening alone on the 90s version must have costed more than the whole Bugs version.

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Is Nux a VTuber?

>> No.20871133

>>20869361
Can someone like Ina improve? Her CON stat is pretty low.

>> No.20871144

>>20871098
Technically, same way nyanners is

>> No.20871169

>>20870827
Ojou should try ballet. Her model, song choices, are really fit for a ballet typa dance moves. But again, they are more of a singer so dancing will nerf their singin capability

>> No.20871174

>>20870737
aren't you forgetting one? where's GEMS Company? the true idol chuuba group

>> No.20871175

>>20871065
Hal is already a 10k streamer plus Hal's pull could get them 50k+, so that's a good enough in the list.

>> No.20871194

>>20871098
Convert
>>20871144
When he has the same longevity as Nyanners as a vtuber

>> No.20871198

>>20871098
He's about as much of a Vtuber as Sodapoppin is.

>> No.20871206

>>20870737
Wow, a newfag and a faggot in the wild. I'm amazed.

>> No.20871234

>>20868690
all nijien when 6 were in that. makes total sense
>>20870207
>>20870757
they still interact to this day. Just today elira and kiara interacted. I dont think this collab will ever happen but interaction on twitter sure. fans still want to watch it

>> No.20871260

>>20871098
Yes but they should use his alt account since that one started out when he went vtubing

>> No.20871274

>>20870737
For how long can Nijisanji keep their second place?

I give it by the end of this year.
Neo Porte with new debuts.
VSPO growing and having 3D debuts this year.

I don't think Anycolor can survive this.

>> No.20871284

>>20871206
Sorry, your name or your group's name isn't there, 2view

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>>20870737
Good work bro, clean looking chart, keep it up

>> No.20871304

>>20871098
I feel like Userlocal is very lazy to put converts into the convert category.

>> No.20871321

>>20871198
It’s incredible that every single one of these converts
>Nux
>Sodapoppin
>Bahroo
are always knee deep in drama and controversy.
God forbid they infiltrate the hobby successfully

>> No.20871334

>>20871133
If Ina can improve as a singer than she could certainly improve as a VA. She doesn't even have to modify her voice for roles like real VAs/Seiyuus she just has to emote better and be as stilted which can get better with more experience.

>> No.20871406

>>20870737
Of the English small corpos, Kawaii Production seems to be the strongest to me. Each of their chuuba can get 80+ viewers with every stream and they have Nene who gets 300+ (with up to 1000 on special streams). Tsunderia and Prism both have talents that are struggling more in comparison.

>> No.20871415

>>20871065
>>20870737
Meant to say "putting kamitsubaki and 774 on the same level as tsunderia and prism is retarded", but that original statement is also true

>> No.20871462

>>20870737
Please don't turn this into a bait thread in catalog

>> No.20871490

>>20871406
Are small corpos still groomable or do they have to be indies for that? Asking for my discord moderator friend

>> No.20871497

>>20871284
>be a faggot in the /#/
>get called a faggot for it
>"2-2view"
Go back to shitposting in the catalog.

>> No.20871503

>>20871174
GEMS company is uncosistent af. I'd rather put ENOGU or heck even PALLETE PROJECT and VALIS is more active than them

>> No.20871508

>>20871234
From what I recall, Kiara interacts with Pomu, Elira and Finana (?)
Mori interacts with Enna and she interacted with Luxiem during her lean arc to spite the "haters".

>> No.20871546

>>20871490
Of course they're groomable.

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kek, this surely looks like Laplus scuffed network charts

>> No.20871599

>>20871508
Kiara is euroESL. She lack nuance with her eigo and probably didnt even realize the context they were talking about

>> No.20871661

>>20871599
or she didn't give a fuck

>> No.20871722

[Good News] Kronii finished Sonic Adventure 2. Another game she won't revisit and debuff herself with.

>> No.20871778

>>20865639
>>20865844
>>20865420
If your only metric for success is CCV (when it isn't), sure, and even in that it's not the case when more than 30 nijis are above vspo members.

>> No.20871795

>>20870737
someone should make an iceberg meme for vtuber corps

>> No.20871806

>>20870999
Yeah and it's their first try to AR. Honestly, it's not that bad, they only need to tweak the shader and lightning.

>> No.20871812

>>20871722
Looking forward to see what debuff game she decides to play in its stead.

>> No.20871831

>>20871722
She surely is clearing up all of her debuffs.
I hope she boards the FOTM train and fulfill her potential

>> No.20871841

>>20865639
Nijisanji litearlly have 3view vtubers since their beginning, it never has been a badge save for the ones that were able to be consistent above 1k.

>> No.20871954

>>20868675
The ones who need a job are the ones who never were successful in the first place and always have been 3 view like Moira and Aki. Nijisanji has more than enough females working

>> No.20872014

Hilarious that NijiEn is playing Minecraft while HoloEn is playing fromsoft games.

>> No.20872035

>>20871841
Nijisanji was known for its top-heavy roster. However, that roster is slowly being reduced down to only Kuzuha and Mito on a few occasions. New recruits barely get high numbers these days, just look at Edengumi.
On the other hand, Hololive's future is pretty secure and balanced with Laplus being the lead and others playing support rather well.

>> No.20872114

>>20872035
>and Mito on a few occasions
You can’t mention Mito without mentioning Lize, at least not recently considering the later routinely outranks the former

>> No.20872146

>>20869010
Literally none of them are 3 view and all of them are happy. Maybe you should try to watch them instead of crying over numbers? Even more Chima who does like 4k per stream

>> No.20872159
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>Be fulgur
>shits on council
>gets 100k
>doesn't do an celebration stream
Based

>does a 1 month anniversary instead
The fuck

>> No.20872186

>>20872114
March has been very bad for Lize though..

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>>20872114
Not as of late. Look at her numbers. She's experiencing a downtrend.

>> No.20872230

>>20872014
It never occurred to me but yeah, you're right. lol

>> No.20872247

>>20872159
He's still part of Nijicelebration En..

>> No.20872253

>>20872186
Mother is just a bad game for numbers no matter who is streaming it.
Pekora would get bad numbers playing it, for her standards at least.

>> No.20872262

>>20871722
hahahahaha...

>> No.20872279

>>20871274
They can and will be able to keep it easily. Neo Porte literally don't even have streams to put them in any position and Vspo is at best third. I feel like you retards don't consider anything but CCV on this equation when CCV itself dont make money and even in ccv itself vspo is behind a ton of nijis.

>> No.20872284

>>20870827
Is it just me or Holofes3's AR looks better

>> No.20872310

>>20871406
Tsunderia these days have gotten a new kana in the form of Miori so things might be looking up for them

>> No.20872346

>>20871722
So back to MC and ER?

>> No.20872348

>>20872230
The sad part is that NijiEN MC is just boring to watch without any cross-branch interaction.

>> No.20872358

>>20872114
At least in the past month, Lize' peak CCV range has been 4-14k whereas Mito's has been 9-18k

>> No.20872365

>>20872014
oh how the turntables

>> No.20872395

>>20872035
Again, Nijisanji still has a heavy roster, the problem is that you fags in here think that only above 20k-10k counts to something when like 30-40 are above 1k and there's like 20 or so above 3k at least

>> No.20872418

>>20872159
Nijiniggers have never been based or ever will.

>> No.20872445
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>>20872279
Not really, no. Nijisanji has too many bottom-feeders now that it tarnishes their branding.

>> No.20872456

>>20872284
holofes3 looks better. anima was a free online concert.

>> No.20872462

>>20872348
It wouldn't matter to you either way because you dont know nijisanji members to the point you dont know that only like 10 members play minecraft and most of those are EN

>> No.20872520

>>20872445
Nijisanji brand power is weaker than VSPO.

>> No.20872557

>>20872445
Nijisanji has "bottom feeders" for years. regardless, my argument was that individually nijisanji vtubers are above many vspo ones.
It doesn't tarnish anything outside of this thread, people dont really care that much about numbers like you all do when like 40 or 50 of their ranks are above 1k at the very least in their median.

>> No.20872565

>>20872279
There's no point in correcting these retards.
VSPO hasn't even had their first 3D debut yet, let alone releasing their first music album (with a record label or without), signing huge sponsorship deals with telecom companies, or having an event like Nijifes.
But Nose can get 8k playing Apex and sometimes they gets 5k playing minecraft so I guess Nijisanji is screwed.

>> No.20872601

>>20872520
That's why Vspo is able to reach 100k streams and Nijisanji isn't. I think this thread is getting crazy with its own hate for nijisanji to make statements like that. Expected but still, dear god

>> No.20872702

I can't believe VSPO vs Nijisanji is a thing now..
How the mighty have fallen

>> No.20872705

>>20872445
>tarnishes their branding
When nips think of Nijisanji, they think of Kuzuha, Kanae, Mito, Sasaki, Shiina, and Chinman.
Bottom feeders don't tarnish their brand because people don't even know they exist.

>> No.20872707

>>20872348
Not that it matters. Nijien fans only care NijiEN

>> No.20872719

>>20872601
Higher floors are always more preferable than higher ceilings for long term prospects.

>> No.20872743

>>20872565
I don't even know why I try, maybe because I think they are speaking seriously. It's just way too disingenuous either way because you just need to look to see the difference in positions. VSPO is more closer to 774 than it is closer to nijisanji, and even 774 itself already has 3D, their own events and the like for years.

>> No.20872746

>>20872702
Holo is too far out of reach desu

>> No.20872820

Did anyone note down when Seiso reached 10M?

>> No.20872835

>>20872702
You guys were the ones who made it a thing for months. When you speak so much about it, it will become a thing, even if in reality if you analyze, you see it's not true.
>>20872705
Exactly.

>> No.20872874

>>20872456
>Free
Part of it was paid content as well, it was both, though to a much lesser extent than Holofes.
>>20872284
All things considered Kamitsubaki was widely thought to be ahead of Hololive prior to recent developments.
>inb4 source
Just the overall sentiment as I saw it. In any case, I think HoloFes 3 turned people's opinions on Hololive's ability to produce content on such a level.

>> No.20872961

>>20872874
HoloFes3 cemented Hololive as the top dog in vtuber entertainment. I wouldn't be surprised if they will get more applications in the future.

>> No.20872986

>>20872874
It's a good thing Holo doesn't follow kamitsubaki on their 3D and went for a bright anime styled concert

>> No.20872989

>>20872707
Only fans that came from HoloEN are like that and they are a minority.

>> No.20873032

>>20872961
If nijinigger females have a braincell in their body they better be sending in applications for the next round of Hololive JP

>> No.20873048

>>20872702
If you keep repeating it, enough retards will believe it and make it a thing.
Just look at EN gold.

>> No.20873054

>>20872961
>holofes3 cemented yagoo fucking my mouth with his dick
t. holodrone

>> No.20873072

>>20872989
Really nigger? I'm not seeing the chinks transfer views to nijijp, hell they don't even transfer to other nIjiEN

>> No.20873090

>>20872961
They are a legit Idol group now. Like AKB kinda legit so ofc all the hags and cakes that were dream of became and idol in their youth will take this golden second chance to live their dream

>> No.20873098

>>20873032
Well luna seems the smartest out of the nijifem

>> No.20873148

>>20873032
None of them will do that, even the lowest ones. Sometimes you'll have to accept that many if not most of them came to nijisanji for different reasons instead of going to hololive.

>> No.20873163

2VIEW RIMJOB ANON WHERE ARE YOU?? AAAAAA I MISS YOUR RETARDED POST!!!

>> No.20873176

>>20873032
As a holofag, I honestly don't know if you people are memeing.

I've never watched Niji, this isn't a comment on their quality, but one of them just popping into HoloEN would be massive since they're nr 2 youtube EN agency. Its not some literal who like Bae or one of 100 nijis like Luna, it would be a vtuber people actually know. Imagine waking up with Nyanners in HoloEN. It's absurd, it won't happen even if the girl wants it too (and I don't see why unless you're Millie/Reimu who need the boost).

>> No.20873200

>>20873072
The "chinks" are already nijisanji fans in the first place. Actually go to luxiem and noctyx servers and youll see that a lot of them already were fans before and now watch them as well.

>> No.20873217

>>20872557
>>20872705
You guys ignore the historical context of it.
Nijisanji was supposed to be a group of elites that Hajiki had the nerve to even proclaim Mito to be above the four kings and deservedly got hated for it.
Years of neglect and having shown no prospects of even matching the star power of their mainstays in Mito and Kuzuha from their succeeding recruits has definitely lowered the prestige of Nijisanji.

>> No.20873338

>>20873176
I was referring to the 100 literal who NijiJPs, I don't give a fuck about NijiEN, nor HoloEN for that matter.

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this bitch wont stop

>> No.20873346

>>20873217
Again, I dont think this is true outside of vtuber boards. It's way too much doomposting when Nijisanji isn't a re:act or upd8, and even the first one still is going out there and with applications even though most of its members are graduated.

>> No.20873394

>>20873344
Who is it? You cropped out their twitter handle

>> No.20873407

>>20873344
Uhhhh is there a better translation?

>> No.20873424

>>20873217
>four kings
Were always trash, the only mistake Hajiki made was to declare the wrong queen. If he said Gura is queen no one would dispute him, even the nips call her the number 1 vtuber

>> No.20873430

>>20872565
>VSPO hasn't even had their first 3D debut yet, let alone releasing their first music album (with a record label or without), signing huge sponsorship deals with telecom companies, or having an event like Nijifes.
I don't have a horse in this race, but outside of sponsorships, none of the stuff you mentioned is a requirements for one group to be considered more or less successful than another group. VSPO itself is primarily an esports oriented agency, and anything besides tournaments is mostly secondary at best, unlike with Nijisanji who is primarily a general entertainment entity.

Like I said, no horse in this race, so I won't even justify the position of either. I just wanted to establish the correct frame of reference for you to make your argument.

>> No.20873443

>>20873338
so you want people you dont even know to come to hololive for what? some victory?

>> No.20873457

>>20873344
This translation is a bit too bad for me anon. I cannot andastand.

>> No.20873471

>>20873394
god of destruction
>>20873407
ugh check the tweet replies lol

>> No.20873531

>>20873054
Cope

>> No.20873598

>>20873217
>Years of neglect and having shown no prospects of even matching the star power of their mainstays in Mito and Kuzuha from their succeeding recruits has definitely lowered the prestige of Nijisanji.
Sounds like your source is voices in your head. There's been successful Nijis that debuted after the OGs anyways. If anything, the OGs are mostly trash except for Mito.

>> No.20873611
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This is Niji JP and VSPO right now. Considering where VSPO was just a few months ago, their rise isn't something to be shrugged off.

>> No.20873619

>Luca Minecraft hit 10k
does he really have that much kid appeal?

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>>20873407

>> No.20873634

>>20873443
I know who they are and watch them, and they should apply if they want to expand their popularity and find financial success. If they aren't interested in that, then fuck em, but any of them who want to actually go big should consider it.

>> No.20873638

>>20873344

Mike Cat ??

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>>20873338
It's more like 20 or so "literal who". JP itself has 110 members.

>> No.20873649

>tfw searching "Ninjisanji" on youtube and getting a bunch of dramafag channels among the top results
These are actual parasites.

>> No.20873655

>>20873344
I am really not seeing what she means. No one ever said Rushia was a hostess.

>> No.20873681

>>20873457
From what I can gather, she’s saying someone at her previous job spread rumors about her enjoying male hosts or some shit and told her they were going to fire the person spreading the rumors.
Rushia is a fucking retard.

>> No.20873701

>>20873619
It's a collab between the NijiEn members

>> No.20873718

>>20873634
Who do you watch anon? Hajiki? Aizono? Emma? Mahiro? Alice?

>> No.20873765

>>20873032
As much as I unironically wish girls like Levi, Chima and unironically Warabeda could jump ship to Holo it isn't feasible in any way. んなあああああああ made the jump back when things weren't nearly as established but trying to jump now would be impossible due to the backlash towards both companies and towards the talent themselves.

>> No.20873771

>>20873681
Oh, you mean the shit we have photographic evidence of? Why would they fire Matsuri for telling the truth?

>> No.20873792

>>20873701
No, it's not. Only Luca and Sonny are streaming mc and the others are just playing offline.

>> No.20873794

>>20873424
No the mistake he made was declaring it way too early back when Luna was still around and Ai still had rabid fans, and reacting really poorly to the antis who came after him. At that point it wasn't yet evident that the reign of the four Kings have passed

>> No.20873812

>>20873648
You forgot to include NijiID and NijiKR cause they'll be joining the main branch soon.

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>>20864957
Likes overtaken

>> No.20873832

>>20873718
Mahiro, Riri, Kazaki, Ran-nee, Hisupi, Levi and Chigu are my favorites who are struggling.

>> No.20873850

>>20873792
Thats the impromptu collab

>> No.20873857

>>20873771
The retards at the /jp/ thread think Miko is the bully.

>> No.20873862

>>20873054
Anon that's not a proper retort

>> No.20873864

>>20873648
A good half of the Nijis is below Azki, the weakest Holo at the moment.

>> No.20873900

>>20873812
I didn't forget a thing because:
1, this is from february
2. KR and ID only will be part of the main branch in april, so the numbers for them will count in april.

>> No.20873936

>>20868990
they sold out to the chinks. Might as well declare them dead at this point. Too bad Nier Automata was kino

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfbTDxuX-sU

>> No.20873963

>>20873857
Miko had nothing to do with the host club incident.
/jp/
Are you sure it isn't a schizo agreeing with himself?

>> No.20873983

>>20873430
If we're talking about company prestige AKA which company you would want to be in, Nijisanji has so much more company infrastructure and industry connections than VSPO that it shouldn't even be a comparison.
Being a vtuber in 2022 kinda implies releasing music content too, seeing as VSPO girls also release song covers, and in that regard, Nijisanji has even deeper roots in the music scene than Hololive.

Like you said, VSPO is primarily an Esports company, which means it's not even a valid option for female streams who aren't into hardcore gaming.

>> No.20873991

>>20873830
>357k views in 6 hours on a one year old song that has already been viewed millions and millions of times
Holy fuck release some more music for the love of god Gura. Even Mori and Suisei wouldn't be able to compete with you.

>> No.20873996

>>20872986
Having variety is actually good. You want to have a visual presentation/aesthetic that matches the type of content you want to deliver to the audience.

>> No.20874032

>>20873344
>わたし働き先であの子はホスト狂いなんですよって社員にデマ流されたことあるんだよね。本当に迷惑で、初めは有耶無耶にされて最後、デマ流してること認められてクビにするって話で聞かされてたんだけど、会社行ったらいたんだよね。あれなんだったんだろってたまに思い出してるわ
>ちなみにホストなんて一度も言ったことなくて、無関係の色んなところまで話されていた。これすごい問題だと思うんだけど
Total 10k likes as of now

>> No.20874061

>>20873850
That's not an impromptu collab when none of them are even on vc.
>>20873864
That's why Hololive is first and nijisanji is second. That's not an argument.
>>20873832
Hisui and Chigusa are doing well, the other 3 also on the high 3view. And between the ones you mentioned I dont see them ever leaving nijisanji for hololive. In fact, none of nijisanji for that matter.

>> No.20874092

>>20873681
She's saying that someone at the office didn't get fired for spreading false rumours that a certain holo was addicted to host clubs (and implying she got fired herself so it's not fair those people still get to work there)

>> No.20874100

>>20873850
I feel like 80% of NijiEN stuff these days are collabs.

>> No.20874131

>>20873681
shes revealing personal infos 100% cover suing her

>> No.20874167

>>20873163
Didn't that one get banned yesterday for spamming?

>> No.20874178

>>20873344
at this point i'm actually what's she trying to achieve by making vague tweets like this

>> No.20874179

>20873054
the seething 2view whore is back. Time for another vacation

>> No.20874189

>>20874032
She's coming off as really salty. This is more menhera imagined slights than a "tell all about the evil people at Cover"

>> No.20874212

>>20874100
Collabs and celebration can give them big numbers.

>> No.20874252

>>20873830
So what we can get from this is: For now, there are more people who turned in for Gura song while Mori song got more replay by the same people.

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>>20873344
>>20873394
>>20873407
>Uhhhh is there a better translation?
>>20873457
>This translation is a bit too bad for me anon. I cannot andastand.
This is a better translation, I'll assume "host crazy" means "likes to frequent host bars"

I have zero idea of what she's talking about, sounds like
> I got fired for spreading rumors, what about that other bitch spreading rumos as well?

>> No.20874289

>>20874100
you dont need to feel, you can look anon
https://teamup.com/ks1mraas71v3fjf1c2

>> No.20874294

>>20873991
Gura is too much of an autist, she has scrapped songs out of pure unadulterated autism. If she didn't have chronic low self-esteem issues and also had an unquenchable fire lit under her ass she'd be too powerful.

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>>20874061
>Chigusa is doing well
I like your optimism but Chigusa deserves more exposure that Nijisanji just couldn't provide.

>> No.20874310

>>20873430
They are trying to diversify into mix media projects.

https://vspo.jp/en/media/

https://youtu.be/z6yUaTOKf8k

>> No.20874323

>>20874061
Of course that's an impromptu collab if they're all playing Minecraft together.

>> No.20874370

>>20874294
She's not powerful, she's literally a midget autist who eats rotten food and has mold growing in her room who lucked her way into a popular channel because of pedophiles and twittercucks. She could literally shit on stream and get a million views.

>> No.20874383

>>20874032

I think the menhera whore doing this to keep herself relevant and stalling til her new model debut

>> No.20874400

Reflect MV has mogged Unalive in term of like already. Will probably mogged hard in term of view also.

And the song in 9month old. Come on Mori

>> No.20874403

>>20874061
They're not in VC, but they are interacting a lot through chat.
A bit like when Irys and Kronii were playing MC with Gura but they weren't all in VC together.
You can see when they started interacting since Sonny and Luca started inclining 2 hours into their streams, which rarely happens.

Speaking of incline, Irys got a 1k boost from Mori after she ended, but Kronii didn't get anything.
No one wants to watch Sonic Adventure anymore.

>> No.20874424

>>20874257
Basically, someone spread rumors about a girl being a hostess and then admitted they did it as a hoax, this person never got dealt with in the company despite higher-ups saying they were gonna get fired.
Do you believe her? I know I'm not.

>> No.20874470

Are we sure the "previous job" that Mikeneko mentioned is Holoive?

>> No.20874484

>>20874400
Unalive MV is worse than a literal PNG slideshow
Of course Reflect is going to get more views

>> No.20874486

>>20874424
I think she’s playing with fire here while trying to get more sympathy money from her retarded gachis.

>> No.20874501

Reminder to not engage with the schizo, even if it's entertaining.

>> No.20874509

>>20874370
And she's still stronger than you and your 2views. Seethe

>> No.20874517

>20874370
Christ did they only ban you for 24 hrs 2view schizo? Who fucking hurt you? And fucking
>twittercucks
seriously? I don't even see the connection. And saying that she could shit on stream and get a million views is admitting she's powerful kek.

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>>20874370

>> No.20874535

>>20874509
t. chumcuck

>> No.20874541

>>20874306
Chigusa herself don't seem to think like you thought anon, so this will be one sided.
Also outside of two streams, the other numbers are good to me.

>> No.20874545

>>20874092
The real question is did this even happen. The only rumors of host club addiction has a photograph of the person in question being at one.

>> No.20874558

>>20874370
>She could literally shit on stream and get a million views.
That's why she's powerful dumbass

>> No.20874561

>>20874257
Well, that just means that the rumors that bitch trying to spread are a lot worse than that.

>> No.20874590

https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1506511930395336715
>I would highly appreciate if you don't paywall 3D debuts on future expos and events.
>for stream i think 5k yen is a bit too much
>World tour, cheaper, more EN and ID
>Make it cheaper
If anything next year will be more expensive kek

>> No.20874596

>>20874323
>>20874403
ok lets say its an impromptu collab then. that doesnt change much because Luca has been getting 7k-10k constantly.

>> No.20874614

>>20865639
> straight off note.com

>> No.20874615

>>20874400
I like Mori's new album but the MV is unironically jank as fuck. It would've been unironically better if the MV was animated by Kanauru.

>> No.20874617

>>20874535
I love how you say that like its a thing to be ashamed of

>> No.20874634

>>20873344
She must felt like shit right now, no more merch money, singging on stage and other sponsorships. Seeing holofes 3 success without her...damn.

>> No.20874646

>>20874424
>being a hostess
Not a hostess, a fujo for a host.

>>20874470
> Are we sure the "previous job" that Mikeneko mentioned is Holoive?
Nope and these tweets are in the context of a series where she's venting about people spreading *false* rumors and how annoying that is.

>> No.20874653

>>20874306
Not that anon but there's literally 0 way any of the Nijifemales could actually make the leap these days. As much as I would love to have Levi, Chima, Warabeda, etc. like I said above there's no clean way they could make the jump without both companies and they themselves getting shit on.

>> No.20874657

>>20874306
Chigusa has plenty of exposure from Nijisanji, almost everyone who watches Nijisanji content knows who she is.
They just don't watch her solo streams.

It's like a Holostars situation.

>> No.20874673

>>20874470

What other job she has beside Hololive and NicoNico scammer ?

>> No.20874686

>>20874032
This just really feels like she's salty about being fired but Matsuri whose roommate got involved in some host yab before didn't. Well there's the problem Mike, she solved her shits with her lawyer instead of going and leaking insider information.

>> No.20874693

>>20874545
That's why it's "just" a rumour, just because you went to a host club once doesn't mean you're super crazy addicted to hosts.

>> No.20874707

>>20868082
basically, yeah

>> No.20874726

>>20874634
She missed out on some major paydays. She’s still showing up in merch and sponsorships cause they couldn’t remove her image in time.

>> No.20874728

>>20874657
So same as reimu?

>> No.20874729

>>20874370
That supposed to be a dig at her? Because that sounds like Gura is powerful enough to literally do anything and she would still do well.

>> No.20874733

>>20874617
You should be ashamed of being a disgusting pedophile, yes.

>> No.20874749

>>20874693
But those rrats spin themselves after the fact.

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>>20874370

>> No.20874785

>>20874634
She didn't have any meltdowns during holofes though.

>> No.20874803

>>20874400
I think in long run, UnAlive MV will get more views than Reflect MV, but in the mean time it's really a treat from Gura.

>> No.20874819

>>20874686
Despite being a menhera, Matsuri isn’t stupid enough to break her NDA.
>>20874785
You must’ve missed all the deleted tweets then.

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I don't know if someone mentioned it but Luca's Mafia has reached 2M views.

>> No.20874833

>>20874545
Just like the "bullying" narrative, there is zero proof. And the only holo that we know has anything to do with host solved it herself behind the screen.

>> No.20874835

>>20874673
Didn't she say she used to work in a cafe/coffee shop

>> No.20874838
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>>20874733
No I don't think I will

>> No.20874874

>>20874686
kek, add that to Matsuri ranting about Rushia having Haachama for her live and skipping Matsuri's and you've got some bad blood.
But as said, Matsuri is smart enough to send in the hook nosed fellows (is this even a stereotype in Japan? Maybe they have chink lawyers or viet lawyers or something like that) instead of running to Narukami and KoreKore

>> No.20874896

>>20874834
No one mentioned it, but it isn't surprising.
This thing has the growth and legs of a Suisei cover.

>> No.20874920

>>20874733
Anon we have a fucking Uuuoooh Cunny thread in the Catalogue everyday. Calling people pedophiles here is unironically a compliment.

>> No.20874961

>>20874896
>>20874834
Chink and Sea yumejos/fujos are great at doing their reps.

>> No.20874973

>>20874596
>that doesnt change much because Luca has been getting 7k-10k constantly.
Yeah that's basically his median nowadays.
Most people in the previous thread predicted he'll get 10k+ with minecraft anyways because there's no way the NijiEN server would be empty when he's on so a collab was bound to happen.

>> No.20874990

>>20874590
Smells like SEAniggers

>> No.20875024

>>20874470
We can't even be sure she's talking about a real job anon

>> No.20875064

Kson telling Rushia to knock that shit off.
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1506521923169439744

>> No.20875072

>>20874834
Good numbers. Was it the first cover by a Luxiem member? I don't remember.

>> No.20875084

>>20874749
It does, which is why apparently upper management told everyone to stop spreading rumours and anyone who did would be fired. Maybe mike misunderstood and thought they'd fire the alleged culprit(s) when all the company wanted was to stop any further talk of it.

>> No.20875093

>>20874961
Hope in the Dark is at 6.3 mil in 3 months so in a few more months, it'll overtake VtL as the most viewed Niji original.
Luxiem fans do more reps than NijiJP fans as a whole.

>> No.20875094

>>20875024
We can't even be sure that she's talking about something that really happened

>> No.20875112

>>20875064
deleted already. Jesus this menhera is a fucking mess.

>> No.20875128

The next Vox cover might beat Q or King soon

>> No.20875138

>>20874590
>Give more shit that we don't have to pay for!
Fucking retards. At least I filled out the questionnaire with proper responses.

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>>20875064
kek, I can only imagine how hard would be tard wrangle Rushia, it goes to show that maybe the rumors that Flare was relieved and even happy about Rushia's fate was not a rrat

>> No.20875182

>>20874819
>You must’ve missed all the deleted tweets then.
Only the first day when she wasn't meant to appear. You think the meltdown would happen on day 2.

>> No.20875224

>>20875128
Please set him high up, this thread needs some horse races and some slippages like Kuzuha song on Halloween

>> No.20875273

>>20875171
I still believe Fubuki and Pekora giving a shit about Rushia leaving are just crocodile tears to get sympathy for themselves from Rushia sympathizers. Marine's tears were legit tho, she's just an emotional old hag

>> No.20875307
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Ranunculus either didn't get sub culled or recovered their lost subs in under a day, which would be fast enough to not get tracked.

>> No.20875328

All right holobros, we have to stop VSPO, they're making monkeys out of us and will steal from Cover with their success. How should we?

>> No.20875334

>>20875273
Marine comment sounded like Schindler on Schindler's list
>if only I had done more I could have saved her
presumably from herself

>> No.20875352

>>20875064
I hope Kson will be fine trying to tard wrangle her. Last time she did that she sounded super burned out and tired.

>> No.20875373

>>20875307
do nips dislike mayu or something ?

>> No.20875386

>>20875064
I get she's trying but mike needs more professional help than kson can give.

>> No.20875392

>>20875064
Kek, one of the replies basically says "Don't be kind to her she will just betray you"

>> No.20875398

>>20875064
Coco...
Goddammit at this point I unironically think it's safer to get her a psychiatrist or a fullblown mental hospital, because this idiot is gonna write the wrong thing sooner or later and get sued or even jailed.

>> No.20875413

>>20875352
Even in retirement she still has to be a counselor for (ex)Holos

>> No.20875428

>>20875328
>esports group of girls
If much Tanigo should SPONSOR them to strengthen their brand so they can eat into the "girl gamers" market and nerf any other company trying to encroach on the "girl streamer" market on that angle, with Cover keeping the "girl idol" market for themselves

>> No.20875482

>>20875328
Nice try rumao

>> No.20875503

I think rushia's manager deserves a raise if he/she is still working for cover.

>> No.20875511

>>20875413
Job never seems to end for her just like Kazuma Kiryu.

>> No.20875512

>>20875171
Jesas Kson I never really cared about you but please just fucking leave and don't associate yourself with her, it's not healthy for yourself.

>> No.20875514

Do you think whoever is leading NijiEN males should be the CEO of Anykara instead of Riku? That man doesn't have an ounce of business sense in him anymore.

>> No.20875521

>>20875273
Nah, those two are huge saviorfags as well, they were just lamenting that they were not good enough to save the menhera from her own self destructive tendencies.

>> No.20875562

It speaks volumes about how dire the working environment at Cover is if even Coco didn't say Rushia's tweet was false

>> No.20875566

>>20867965
>>20868025
People don't realize just how many people simply lurk these threads without posting anything.
If someone says "x happened" and no one corrects them, there's a significant number of retards that will just run with it, and then blame us as a whole when they get shit on.
And so, the first reply in a bait is always needed so that lurkers and tourists don't take shit like that seriously.
After that you can just call them a retard or slap 'em/ignore them.

>> No.20875586

>>20875064
Shes trying...

>> No.20875633

>>20875273
>Fubuki
If it's about the watch along I think that she just pity Ayame and the whole day 2 that got fucked.

>> No.20875636

>>20875521
FBK/Marine/Pekora are many things but Lithium is something they're not.

>> No.20875644

Gura's reaction to her FNF animation clip got 430k in 2 days.
Let that sink in.

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>>20875307
I'm comparing the sub charts of channels listed on userlocal's recently debuted VTubers list to check for sub culling.
Here's the one for NoriPro Gamers.

>> No.20875724

>>20875633
I can believe that since she and Mio love ojou

>> No.20875738

>>20875562
More like it speaks volume how mentally deranged this wench is that even Kson had to publicly tell her to knock it off on Twitter instead of using Discord or anything.

>> No.20875742

>>20875064
I think kson can collab with holos now

>> No.20875750

>>20875128
Oh yeah it's absolutely a lock, 100% guaranteed, will not and cannot fail

>> No.20875752
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>>20875669
MAHA5

>> No.20875784

>>20871508
> Kiara was an early Lazulight fan but doesn't care for anything after
> I was an early Lazulight fan and didn't care for anything after
WE ARE

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Just noticed that this clip hits 1M views.

>> No.20875803

Yagoo anus licker poster is a fucking /jp/ poster lmao

>> No.20875807

>>20875562
Confirming or denying anything Mike says would just put her at the exact same position Mike is.
Politely telling "let the bygones be bygones" is the best and the smartest thing kson could have done

>> No.20875812

>>20875566
Always remember, for every 1 person posting there are 5 just lurking. Post responsibly, someone is reading and may not know you're mentally ill.

>> No.20875813

>>20875128
something anti slip tires something metal chains something

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>>20875562

>> No.20875831

>>20875128
I think it can get to 1 million in less than 24 hours.

>> No.20875855

>>20875562
Rushia's tweet didn't really say anything incriminating outside an employee probably joking with her in a poor way.

>> No.20875863

>>20875803
Nah, a bunch of their last posts during the big meltdown last night were about how they didn't speak Japanese and didn't know any jp vtubers

>> No.20875867

>>20875562
you're actually fucking stupid

>> No.20875892

>>20875855
Bored arent we?

>> No.20875918

>>20875562
Rushia is smart enough to be vague. Notice how all of her tweets only mentioned "that person" or "that place I worked at" so she'd have plausible deniability if people start questioning her.

>> No.20875919

>>20875892
?

>> No.20875925
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>>20875752
WACTOR
(the other one is Himea D'Almaria)

>> No.20875936

>>20875644
I have this suspicion she probably saw it early on and hasn’t realized yet that those 2 FNF videos have over 12 million views now. That guy’s stuff hits gold every time

>> No.20875973

>>20875918
>smart enough to be vague
are you seriously arguing vagueposting is smart and not something only attention starved menheras do

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>>20875562
Kson is just too kind to post something like "Take your meds!" to her.

>> No.20876007

>>20870396
> you now remember the first Coco-Moona bunnyman collab

>> No.20876008

>>20875566
I mean, that's with most things on this board.
Correcting them just emboldens them and shits up the thread more.
It's not our fault when someone is retarded enough to believe everything in these threads without factchecking.

Remember when Ame talked shit about the Niji discord leak in her last oblivion stream? Or when Rosemi confirmed NijiEN 3D at Nijifes this year?

>> No.20876015

>>20875918
>Rushia is smart enough
Kek

>> No.20876027

>>20875918
Her insinuations aren't having any sort of positive effect for her and are just making her seem bitter and crazy

>> No.20876031
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>>20872253
yeah its not as good as her mc content but around the level she would get with normal streams

>> No.20876056

>>20875973
I really hope calico cat is very successful because lord knows what will happen if she stops getting attention.

>> No.20876077

>>20875973
Oh I'm not denying that she's bitter as fuck and starving for attention. It's that she has enough mental faculty to not name drop anyone.

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>>20875752
Neo-Porte (part 1)

>> No.20876126

>>20876077
are you retarded? if she namedrops, she's 100% getting her ass sued to the ground.

>> No.20876133

>>20874729
She's right to have imposter syndrome though since she's done absolutely nothing to warrant her level of fame. She's a living viral meme, nothing more. It's like celebrating the Hide the Pain Harold guy because everyone knows his face.

>> No.20876140

>>20875273
Come on now even before this pekora was kind to her.

https://youtu.be/kUQWA6CD0hY

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>>20876081
Neo-Porte (part 2)

>> No.20876187

>>20876126
>are you retarded?
But she is. I don't put it beneath her to do something that retarded.

>> No.20876191

>>20873200
> discord
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

>> No.20876238

>>20876133
Hating her this much will not change the fact that Gura has a statue and you don't

>> No.20876257

>>20875918
Nah she's actually fucking dumb for specifying the word 'host'. If you want to be vague then you just say something without giving too much details so people could make their own rrats, but once she specified it's a talk about 'host' people familiar with recent yabs will always think of Matsuri 100%. She's literally throwing bombshells on the fucking bridge.

>> No.20876267

>>20876164
I haven't been keeping up, have any of the Neo Portes besides that black haired guy debuted yet?

>> No.20876282

>>20873649
that's what nijisanji brand is about.
Nijisanji fandom has a large cross-over with drama-enjoyers.

>> No.20876309

>>20875307
>>20875669
>>20875752
>>20875925
>>20876081
>>20876164
And finally, I tried checking Holostars UPROAR!!, but they don't have graphs on socialblade yet. These are all for now.

>> No.20876317

>>20876133
Thank god there's someone with a brain in here who can understand this. Numberrot runs deep here...

>> No.20876319

>>20876027
It make her crazy gachikois pity her more

>> No.20876327

>>20876238
I note you didn't actually challenge anything I said since it's so obviously true

>> No.20876330

>>20876267
The remaining 3 supposed to debut yesterday, but Ramiel happened so it was postponed.

>> No.20876336

>>20875128
and this goes into the grudgepost folder

>> No.20876341

>>20875562
Your post speaks volumes about your intelligence.

>> No.20876362

Even Benisex is getting 3k+ in her Valorant stream. Great day for VSPO despite no real buffs/collabs like they usually have, just relatively strong solo streams.

>> No.20876394

Mori's new MV is horribly underperforming since it's the first look poorfags get at her 3D. I think the wind has gone out of ENs sails.

>> No.20876403

>>20876336
What is the point of grudgeposting obviously retarded falseflags?

>> No.20876431
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>>20876403
Fun

>> No.20876462

>>20875064
I really don't like that the replies are mostly defending mike and kson's tweet can make the cucks misunderstand and make it seem that she's agreeing with her.

>> No.20876508

>>20873765
Nah, Luna's precedent and Cover's experience in handling yabs should be able to turn any potential drama into null within a week or so (assuming they wiped any compromising PL videos like Aloe had).

Bigger issue I guess is the fact that NijiJP and HoloJP are friends, and most of the talents on both sides of the aisle seem mostly satisfied with where they are.
And one talent jumping ship like that, might break that image - and it's probably gonna be a domino-like fall for Niji as well (especially at this stage).

>> No.20876518

>>20876462
But she is, she just knows that dwelling on past wrongs won't make things better.

>> No.20876563

>>20876508
So Nijisanji members are happy on that slowly sinking ship then?

>> No.20876597

>>20876309
Wrong timing anon. Came back later during slow hours

>> No.20876633

[Bad News] Kronii finished the main story for Sonic Adventure 2 but she wants to do the autism content for Chaos so she's nowhere near completing the game fully. We might have more Sonic Adventure streams in the future as she aims to max out her Chao.

>> No.20876645

>>20876563
Well yeah, the JP ones that do vtubing as a full time job are pretty well off. The rest aren't that serious.

>> No.20876666

How buff would VSPO be with 3D models?

>> No.20876674

>>20876008
and that's why you should call bullshit on them

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>>20863113
just want to correct that nazuna's yesterday peak was 13,618 not 11,978

>> No.20876714

>>20876645
Well, guess Yagoo can't save those who don't want to be saved. There are other thousands, if not millions for his team to sift through

>> No.20876735

>>20876563
Most of them have been around a while to know anything above 500 CCV is really great and that the merch/sponsorship opportunities sweetens the pot. Not everyone is gonna be millionaires that are set for life and they understand that better than this thread does.

>> No.20876740

>>20875128
It will turn in to NijiJP vs NijiEN first because of Kuzukek 11 hrs 44 min Vampire

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>>20876133
>>20876317

>> No.20876754
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I am 3 weeks late. Dude has come a long way

>> No.20876762

>>20876508
They might take a smaller streamer no questions asked but I suspect Cover would not be too keen on accepting one of Niji's bigger stars without getting into contact with their counterparts over at AnyColor for potential drama management.

>> No.20876766

>>20876666
50k minimum. VSPO is so hot right now and they have been sliding into diversifying what they do.

>> No.20876774

>>20876508
Luna has still not interacted with Honhima or Sasaki after all this time right? Or any Niji in that regard.
Even if there was no drama, it's a bit awkward.

>> No.20876796

>>20876754
>Wanna get big numbers? Just apply Gura, instant 6 digit viewcounts for you

>> No.20876797

>>20876633
Kronii is /here/ and is specifically aiming to piss off /#/ autists

>> No.20876819

>>20876563
i mean, it's not like it's bad, if you talk about the top mid females like shiina, saku, furen, nui, toko or others, they get to sit pretty nicely in the 5-9k range which is plenty enough to be well off with streaming
the people who are bad are the ones doing the padding at the bottom

>> No.20876826

>>20876774
She doesn't interact with anyone outside Holo aside from Tamaki IIRC.

>> No.20876832

>>20876762
Cover picks people with CCV of 15~
Why would they ever go for a star outside of someone like Polka?

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>> No.20876846

>>20876754
100K sub before FNF clips

>> No.20876853

>>20876133
I mean yeah I think most people would have imposter syndrome in her position since she basically inherited Kizuna Ai's position as top Vtuber due to a perfect storm of events. On the other hand though it's not like she did nothing to end up there. This is like her 4th or so time going viral on the internet.

>> No.20876900

Move when ready
>>20873022
>>20873022
>>20873022

>> No.20876993

>>20876900
Anon?

>> No.20877034

>>20876900
Anon please take your meds

>> No.20877055

>>20876900
GWS

>> No.20877063

this is some white woman bullshit
>>20876724

>> No.20877075

>>20876900
Posted a link to your drama thread instead of your too-fucking-early thread that will fuck up our numbers?
The only way to stop this early-poster schizo is to ignore his threads and make new ones when this thread actually died

>> No.20877096

>>20876008
those were rightfully called out anon
if they were just lying there without anyone replying to them, lurkers would think it's actually true, and potentially shit up threads/catalog/outside with it, and the blame will just fall on us if that happens.
If we call out that shit (just once, don't engage further) it prevents a lot of that shit from being blamed on our thread as a while.

>> No.20877197

How likely is it that fandeads can help cure the menhera out of mknk? MASSfags were able to save Delu after all.
Hell even Orcschizo was saved by random anons from /here/

>> No.20877245

>>20876853
>Kizuna Ai's position as top Vtuber
King averages more in CCV and VOD views, his Covers do even better than hers. King isn't even on top either, Pekora's resume is strong too. Gura isn't even top 5.

>> No.20877266

>>20877197
Mike has been too mentally ill with too many yes men for too long. Only meds can save her.

>> No.20877282

>>20877197
0%. Her whiteknight is mostly made up of EOP cover-anti now. They don't want her to be cured. They want her to burn cover to the grounds

>> No.20877333

>>20877197
cant have mknk without menhera

>> No.20877335

>>20877245
I'm sure Cover has more intel on this data than you. If they treat Gura like a superstar, she is a superstar.

>> No.20877352

>>20877197
she's been too deep too long, not likely at all

>> No.20877360

>>20877197
Anon just look at Mike's mental asylum thread on /jp/

>> No.20877365

>>20877270
>>20877270
>>20877270
Migrate when ready

>> No.20877385

>>20877335
They don't treat her like a superstar though?
Heck they don't even give a shit about her

>> No.20877388

>>20876832
In the hypothetical situation someone else mentioned where nijisanji females should apply for the next hololive wave, I didn't come up with the situation anon.

>> No.20877392

>>20877335
According to chumbuds Cover treats Gura like shit though?

>> No.20877427

>>20877335
She has 1(one) big shiny number. Cover uses her as a way to show how international hololive is and how much growth they have to sell to gulible investors.

>> No.20877459

>>20877392
Chumbuds are a bunch of unemployed manchild. What do you expect?

>> No.20877540

>>20875128
This does not slip!
>>20876508
Anon you're fucking delusional if you think people jumping ship won't end up with people sperging at the Niji, whoever it is, for looking for greener pastures, at Cover for what they will call headhunting and at Niji for being too shit to keep them within Nijisanji, and those are only a few examples of the narratives people will come up with. It's not a good outlook on Cover, Anykara or the talent in question, especially with any talents from the earliest waves which are the ones usually mentioned, even Hisupi and Chigusa have been there long enough for there to be a huge shitstorm. Have you seen the way nijiantis and niji fans (sometimes these are one and the same) sperg out?

>> No.20877552

>>20877385
Show me who else has 1:1 scale statues

>> No.20877568

Delusional chumbuds in this thread are seriously starting to make me think that KFP and Deadbeats aren't as bad as I thought

>> No.20877588

>>20877245
Anon I get what your saying but Gura recently just got a statue, is getting a second figure, being selected for commercials, and being chosen as a voice option in games despite the fact that she's an EN.

She might not have all the influence Kizuna Ai had yet but she's on track to getting there pretty damn fast.

>> No.20877635

>>20877552
Marine
I'd like to stop seeing chumbuds complain about Cover's mistreatment towards her in the future then, thank you very much

>> No.20877636

>>20877197
They want a retarded broken menhera. Both sides are made up of people that would stick with an abusive relationship.

>> No.20877645

>>20877588
>commercials, voice options
Am I missing something the past 2 months?

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400k in 7hr 35 mins or something like that. I wonder if Holofes also reminded a lot of fans that reflect is a pretty gud song too. But damn, some real good production

>> No.20877652

>>20877552
Kuzuha

>> No.20877657

>>20877568
deadbeats will forever be worse than everyone else anon

>> No.20877687

>>20877635
Quote some posts of chumbuds whining. The last I remember was when her rigging was all fucked up, but Iron Vertex fixed it for her new outfits and I haven't seen that in months

>> No.20877696

>>20877647
Is this gonna be a <24h Million?

>> No.20877703

>>20877588
I wonder where the anons in here see chumbuds complaining. Even in her Twitter feed, I see more Gura fans praising Cover instead

>> No.20877707

>>20877552
Kuzuha has 4:1 scale statue.

>> No.20877720

>>20877245
>VOD views
No he doesn't
>his Covers do even better than hers
no they don't

>> No.20877730

>>20877645
NTA but I think what he’s referencing is the minor cameo in the Taco Bell commercial that she sponsored last year, as well as becoming an official navigator for groove coaster

>> No.20877731

>>20877652
Kuzuha's isn't 1:1, his is more like 5:1 lmao

>> No.20877734

>>20877652
>>20877707
That Cover gave him? Why don't you guys try to keep up on the comment chain you're replying to

>> No.20877735

>>20877687
I said in the future

>> No.20877736

>>20877647
WIll it beat kuzuha again tho? It will be funny if it does

>> No.20877755

>>20877645
Gura was a voice option in Groove Coaster and she made an appearance in the Taco Bell anime commercial for Nacho Fries and basically had a whole stream dedicated to talking about it.

>> No.20877767

>>20877696
I highly doubt it, this song is pretty old and despite the resurgence of interest I don't see it happening.

>> No.20877775

>>20877266
>>20877282
>>20877636
I wonder if the length of her association with Rushia is what backfires on her...
MASSfags and Orcschizo tardwranglers basically had a fresh slate to work with, but mk has been like this for far too long without getting help...
MASSfags also had far more JP folks since /vt/ and HoloEN didn't exist at the time.

>> No.20877799

>>20877652
Kuzuha is several inches tall?

>> No.20877809

>>20877647
Besides Ahoy 17M topic due to short/full version difference, REFLECT is the second most viewed YT topic song.
It is also the second most viewed Spotify song.

>> No.20877855

>>20877703
it's just our usual schizos thinking that if they spam and samefag hard enough people will take what they say as fact again

>> No.20877858

>>20877809
>viewed
>spotify

>> No.20877875
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20877875

>>20877647

>> No.20877876

i can't tell if people are shitposting about that image of flat clothes kuzuha or he actually has a statue

>> No.20877903

>>20877696
Mmmmm it really depends on her international audience. It’s nighttime for the US so you can’t expect much views coming from here for the next 6-10 hours. I think we’ll probably see something like 800k by 24 hours but hitting a million faster than unison will already be a giant what the fuck moment anyways, and it’s 95% likely to happen

>> No.20877914

>>20877703
It's because chumbuds are whining that Gura's Reflect is just a regular MV unlike a fully animated one like Moona's. I'm pretty sure the MV was done for a while but she held off on releasing until now.

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>>20877552
BEHOLD! AND KNEEL MORTAL!

>> No.20877943

>>20877855
Some people just can't stand that same-chan is important in Hololive. It has been this way since she hit a million, it spawned grudges that schizos are still holding onto as she hits 4 million

>> No.20877976

>>20877928
is his nipple hard or something

>> No.20877978

>>20877928
That's honestly really funny

>> No.20877985

>>20877928
On this day mankind recieved a grim reminder...

>> No.20877992

>>20877928
Nice tits

>> No.20877993

>>20877928
Wow, they even got the nipple right! Sasuga Nipplesanji!

>> No.20878021

>>20877928
This screams "look at me please"

>> No.20878027

People fucking undervalue or overvalue Gura here constantly.

>> No.20878034

>>20877928
How much did this get at auction for charity?

>> No.20878038

>>20877914
Only people fucking complaining are retards who aren't even members. If they were they would've known about this shit literally months in advance. Gura is the one Holo who I would unironically say you can't call yourself a true fan of unless you're membered just because of the sheer volume of members content she puts out. Fugg I wish members data were easily available. SUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

>> No.20878054

>>20877799
You haven't seen that 20ft kuzuha statue?

>> No.20878088

>>20878027
It's almost as if she were inconsistent as fuck because of her autism...

>> No.20878105

>>20877858
Ogey
Streamed

>> No.20878112

>>20878054
I just saw it and got a good laugh. I'm glad to know about it now.

>> No.20878134

>>20878038
I'm a member for 17 months. Even I was blindsided by the 1:1 statue.
Gura only talked about it recently that she had known about the statue since September.
Stop being a faggot.

Also, if you were a real member, you'd also know how much Gura hates her management and that they don't do anything except tell her to sing Crazy Frog

>> No.20878137

>>20878021
>*look at my nipples please

>> No.20878192

>>20877928
Nipplesanji isn't a meme lol

>> No.20878256

>>20878088
It's not even that people either overvalue her due to her Sub Count and Music Views or Undervalue her by looking at the live CCV without taking into account other factors like how fast she gets merchandise in the form of figures, commercial deals, etc.

Kizuna Ai had ass viewership after a while but still retained large amounts of influence due to things outside videos.

>> No.20878262

>>20878105
Sorry anon didn't meant to be rude

>> No.20878277

>>20878134
That anon was talking about her discussing the MV with her members, which she has since like october, not the statue

>> No.20878285

>>20878134
>statue
Anon I was talking about the MV not the fucking statue you absolute mongaloid. Gura gets frustrated by management but she doesn't hate them, she just vents about shit to members. Every time she talks about them she's disappointed, or sad something didn't go through but she understands. Why don't (You) go back and fucking re-watch her members streams. It's not all fucking sunshine and rainbows but she doesn't hate them at all.

>> No.20878438

>>20867635
>Can any other vtuber companies reach this height?
yes

>> No.20878548

>>20878438
Who?

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