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>> No.20848551
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>83,346: Suisei (Hololive)
>26,327: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>23,947: Gura (Hololive)
>20,493: Laplus (Hololive)
>20,405: Fauna (Hololive)
>19,724: Moona (Hololive)
>18,099: Patra (774 Inc.)
>17,969: Mumei (Hololive)
>13,593: Lui (Hololive)
>12,565: Towa (Hololive)
>11,978: Nazuna Kaga (VSPO)
>11,522: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>11,305: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>10,670: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,482: Ars (Nijisanji)
>10,410: Nui (Nijisanji)
>10,114: Akina (Nijisanji)

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MARCH 2022 GOLD
1) Botan (Hololive) - 38,974 - Vampire Survivors
2) Nene (Hololive) - 91,087 - Birthday 3D Live
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 31,971 - ARK Collab
4) Roboco (Hololive) - 52,777 - Anniversary 3D Live
5) Miko (Hololive) - 125,971 - Birthday 3D Live
6) Hayase (Nijisanji) - 72,274 - 3D Debut
7) Miko (Hololive) - 49,481 - Horse Gacha
8) Suisei (Hololive) - 45,347 - Karaoke
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,779 - Clubhouse 51 Totsu
10) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 35,477 - Valorant custom
11) Sukoya (Nijisanji) - 35,475 - Return stream (3D)
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 35,894 - Return zatsu
13) Hololive (Hololive) - 66,854 - NePoLaBo idol outfits
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 49,843 - Pekozon
15) Koyori (Hololive) - 42,762 - Birthday totsu
16) Subaru (Hololive) - 35,166 - Vampire Survivors
17) Marine (Hololive) - 45,275 - Vampire Survivors
18) Hal (Neo Porte) - 114,763 . VSayko announcement
19) Hololive (Hololive) - 105,716 . Hololive 3rd Fes day 1
20) Hololive (Hololive) - 107,226 . Hololive 3rd Fes day 2
21) Marine (Hololive) - 35,102 . Vampire Survivors
22) Suisei (Hololive) - 83,346 - Birthday Karaoke + Announcement

TOTAL GOLD SO FAR
> PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji
1x: Neo Porte

> PER STREAMER
3x: Pekora, Hololive
2x: Suisei, Miko, Subaru, Marine
1x: Roboco, Hayase, Kuzuha, Sukoya, Botan, Nene, Koyori, Hal

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Pekosex for upcoming Peko Gold

>> No.20849457

Ah, peace

>> No.20849899

>>20848515
See >>20848905

>> No.20850491

Only 10K waiting room for Gura's MV, start in 5 minutes

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>> No.20850951

>21k waiting
>Slashed to 9k in seconds
So many chumbuds slaughtered in moments by Susan. Their bodies turned to ash to cover up the evidence.

>> No.20851495

>>20850863
>>20850933
>>20850951
Retards >>20830135

>> No.20852027

/#/ is declining.

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>>20852027
hey man

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>thread made 53 minutes ago
>old thread only just died now
Come on man I'm not going to sperg out if it's a little early but that's just ridiculous

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SUB 10k TOURNAMENT LMAO

>> No.20852276

>>20852202
Were you not here for some of the threads yesterday? I think one of the new threads was already past half way to bump limit when the old one died.

>> No.20852770

Ina's 10k viewers just evaporated...

>> No.20852806

>>20852276
>yesterday
SEAfriend...

>> No.20852858

>>20852230
Which members are on it? Just the girls?

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>>20852770
1k went to Bae

>> No.20852948

>>20852806
How's my English btw? Are there any noticeable "ESL" mannerisms in my written text?

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>>20852868
>523

>> No.20853050

>All that hype for the Reflect video
>Just for a decent lyric video
>After the less popular myth delivered stuff like Q, Goodbye Declaration or A Journey like a Dream.
Apparently Gura was planning to drop it last year but then she decided to wait for the perfect moment aKa after Holofest
If true, it shows Gura already knows no matter what she does she will get big numbers...which probably gives her more reasons to be "low effort" than ever since she already knows the numbers will be there waiting for her.
I will be surprised if Reflect does not becomes the most watched MV for a holo in a month. Singe the song is already the most viewed one.

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Vox passed Anya and Lui.

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>>20853106
Vox's subscriber growth rate.

>> No.20853233

>>20852868
Nice tournament you got there Nippleniggers.

>> No.20853279

>>20852948
I don't know, I'm a spic

>> No.20853298

>>20853050
>All that hype for the Reflect video
?

>> No.20853366

>>20852868
graduate these flops already, not even a tournament can save them

>> No.20853371

>>20853106
HoloJP and NijiJP sub growth are abysmal, and retards in this thread were still wanking the JP market saying it's okay to cater to them alone.

>> No.20853423

>>20852868
Thankfully Bae ended the stream already all else this tournament will be a full of shame.

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>>20853371

>> No.20853435

>>20853371
lol mad

>> No.20853464

>>20852202
One of the last few threads was made 5 hours before the previous was finally arvhived. And i don't mean the reused thread.
It's gotten ridiculous.

>> No.20853499

>>20852868
>tournamnet
Lmao

>> No.20853532

>>20853195
Nostalgic.
Feels like late 2020.

>> No.20853592

>>20853371
Vox is an exception and he is the one that panders the hardest from his group.

>> No.20853607

where is the 2view yagoo butt lover anon go?

>> No.20853636

>>20853607
NTA but I'd love to give you a rimjob.

>> No.20853637

>>20853592
All of HoloEN (except Sana) and NijiEN have higher sub growth than their JP peers.

>> No.20853655

despite what the schizo says, there is a definite difference between jp and en in terms of subs, i mean look at kuzuha's subs compared to the rest of his numbers, or like the top of holojp current growth

>> No.20853710

>>20853106
how does Vox compare to bigger NijiJPs in sub count, i imagine hes tearing it up there too

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>> No.20853828

>>20853050
There really wasn't a lot of hype for it. In fact most people here were against it since its going to hurt the growth for the original which is still getting over 100k views a week. I mean we could just add the two together but that isn't the same.

>> No.20853851

https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1ss058b

The bahroo drama is pretty interesting. You have a smaller streamer accusing the bigger streamer of being a leech and attention whore on collabs. The emote thing reminds me of people rushing to other content creators who did work for holos too.

>> No.20853859

>>20853195
Now do Gura or Mori's growth.

>> No.20853929

>>20853655
Besides the obvious more than half the planet difference in population english viewers are used to subscribing being the primary mode of showing support more than even watching videos, recall all the pewdiepie vs T-series nonsense. For Japanese creators the top Holos/Nijis do crazy sub numbers.

>> No.20853997

>>20852230
It at least beat the Jump King tournament, right?

>> No.20854055

>>20853929
>we now have the subs culture cope after the likes culture cope
Kek

>> No.20854066

>>20852948
You misused "past" for "passed" but that trips up plenty of native speakers too.

>> No.20854091

>>20853607
Personally I'd like to rim Suisei

>> No.20854097
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GO GURA GO

>> No.20854121

>>20853822
>not even 8k with a yugi tournamnet

>fujos repeled by yu gi and shu barel scratching 4k
Im gonna asume this is just another informal idea painted as something bigger than it is actually. Like the nijien minecraft

>> No.20854146

>>20851537
Have you come across an official notice of contract termination? No? Then it's just a rrat.

>> No.20854179

>>20852868
Pfftt tournament sure...

>> No.20854216

>>20853851
The smaller streamer is part of Silvervale's "family", so she's deeply associated with Vshojo.
>>20854146
Why would they give a notice of sacking Omega, he's not a talent. Either way, he's IRyS producer.

>> No.20854218

>>20853851
/#/ doesn't turn to /news/ and dramafagging until 15 hours from now.

>> No.20854303

>>20853607
He got banned after seething too hard, maybe wait three days

>> No.20854305

rosemi 7k... i love you wosemi..

>> No.20854325

>Vox 140k sub growth in the last month
>Gura 60k sub growth in the last month
>Council all 29k or less
Oh no no no no holobros, I feel myself kneeling...

>> No.20854334

>>20853607
They managed to get themselves banned and then Meidos nuked all their posts alongside the ban.

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>>20853859
2020?

>> No.20854383

>>20854216
But he is, same way as if when a-chan gets sacked/retires she's going to get a notice as well

>> No.20854387

>>20850933
50k they were saying lmao. I guess even my 30k was way too optimistic

>> No.20854442

>>20853050
>it shows Gura already knows no matter what she does she will get big numbers...which probably gives her more reasons to be "low effort"
Anon she had at least 2 finished songs cancelled at last minute because she didn't like them.

>> No.20854459

>>20853851
Can you give me a quick rundown on the whole thing? Last I checked in on it it was still about what's her face accusing bunny of being queen bitch.

>> No.20854541

>>20854387
No one in their right mind thought 50k would come to watch an MV of a song that came out a year ago in which the singer themselves didn't even care much to get in the first place.

The fact that she got 27k still despite that and will get ridiculous views shows enough just how powerful she is

>> No.20854555

>>20854325
here, have an example of what "projecting current trends into the future" does, from 2004
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/women-of-the-future-are-on-track-to-run-faster-than-men-7907278.html

>> No.20854591

>>20854541
Dont reply to obvious dumb posts

>> No.20854605

>rosemi gold guys!
Anything else Nijiniggers want to get out of their system?

>> No.20854606

>>20854442
>just cancels stuff because she doesn't feel like it
It must be very demoralizing to be her manager, no one would feel like working hard when something like that happens. Can't blame EN management for not feeling motivated enough to manage.

>> No.20854657

>>20854605
nijiensharts think nijien tournament = nijijp tournament numbers.

>> No.20854675

>>20854459
Motherfucker there are like 2 ongoing threads and the entire /lig/ thread go over there we don't need it here. We don't even talk about twitch shit.

>> No.20854679

Luca minecraft will be at least 15K
women love minecraft and posible collabs

>> No.20854701

>>20854606
>feeling bad for FUCKING COVER MANAGERS

>> No.20854768

>>20854679
i laughed anon

>> No.20854784

>>20854605
Did Rosemi win Rosemi Gold today?

>> No.20854818

>>20854701
This is a shitposter. Saying shit like
>wow poor EN management
Is pretty much a huge bait, but if you've seen this moron before you now he doesn't even bother to change his post style so you don't need to reply.

>> No.20854821

>>20854606
Her manager enjoys working with Kiara so I don't think she's suffering that much. I'd feel worse for the other people working on the music who Gura indirectly called shit if what anon is saying is true.

>> No.20854857

>>20854679
Luca is causing drama right now. Scaring off his audience.

>> No.20854897

>>20854325
Gura first 5 month :
550k+ 550K+ 300K + 310k+ 180K+

>> No.20854901

>>20854784
What are her prospects of at least beating big Rosemi?

>> No.20854973

>>20854097
I'm baffled as to why those hack frauds still willing to watch that trek shitshow.

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>>20854336
Uto flexing the strength of just being loosely associated to holoEN via artist mama in the first few months of Myths explosion lmao

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Fucking idiots.

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Today's superchats

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we lost...

>> No.20855063

>>20854821
They got paid so whatever. Maybe they should have done a better job for the shark. We've seen plenty of Holo projects that were half-assed or phoned in with shitty mixing, instrumentals, lyrics ect. It wouldn't be the first or even the 25th time contractors turned in subpar material to Holos. How many times do they release things only to come around 5 months later and say "eh I didn't really even like the final product"? Gura has the guts to stand up and say that something is junk and keep it from being associated with her.

>> No.20855094

>>20855021
March superchats so far
>Gaku - $204,913 (+$0)
>Vox - $112,998 (+$1,643)
>Koyori - $90,904 (+$1,138)
>Nene - $87,705 (+$448)
>Miko - $71,916 (+$0)
>Chloe - $69,885 (+$0)
>Leos - $67,340 (+$1,151)
>Mysta - $52,762 (+$2,941)
>Luca - $52,550 (+$0)
>Akina - $49,208 (+$0)
>Suisei - $49,075 (+$11,630)
>Lamy - $47,700 (+$242)
>Shu - $45,861 (+$0)
>Kronii - $39,365 (+$0)
>kson - $38,787 (+$0)
>Marine - $37,652 (+$0)
>Pekora - $37,228 (+$107)
>Iroha - $36,474 (+$0)
>Kana - $35,911 (+$0)
>Laplus - $35,697 (+$779)
>Flare - $33,756 (+$20)
>Ike - $33,271 (+$196)
>Kiara - $32,737 (+$0)
>Watame - $31,310 (+$1,807)
>IRyS - $30,283 (+$20)
>Noel - $30,327 (+$2,173)

>> No.20855102

>>20854857
Again? What now?

>> No.20855119

>>20855061

200k subs vs almost 2m btw

>> No.20855180

>>20855102
I guess some of his mods were having shipping wars on twitter and sending death threats to random fans with different ships, and he had to ban some of them and tell he fans to knock that shit off. Then a bunch of them deleted their profiles in protest against his scolding.

>> No.20855228

>>20855021
Suisei winning two consecutive days. Nice

>> No.20855235

>>20855063
Gura isn't very candid with her musical ambitions and how she feels about her own ability so i do wonder if part of it is more sussy syndrome than getting stinkers. I also don't get why she doesn't do more covers considering how much she loves karaoke.

>> No.20855243

>>20855119
don't be hard on holobros, anon
it's not their fault that Mori is a failure

>> No.20855250

>>20855180
Is this new? Different from the other mod drama he had like a month ago? WTF, lol

>> No.20855292

>>20855063
Not that anon but Gura is a special case of autism. The songs could’ve been perfectly fine and her chronically low self-esteem combined with her “perfectionist” autism could still torpedo them. I swear if the girl had a little more confidence and didn’t get into slumps so easily she would be pumping out way more content.

>> No.20855299

>>20855094
don't know if koyo is making it to 100k at the end of the month, assistants are kinda broke after her birthday, noticed a few regulars doing smaller supas in the last few streams
also too many collabs on her schedule, bad for scs

>> No.20855308

>>20855061
its over holobros.... tbf all the tournaments/large collabs she organized flop hard. Kiara ones were successful en&id Mario kart & EN amongus

>> No.20855322

>>20854857
Luxiem has barely been around for four months and already has more drama than HoloEN has had in their entire existence, what the fuck

>> No.20855323

>>20854325
Let me guess:
>Whore ASMR when he get 490k
>Masturbate ASMR celebration when he get 500k
>Another Whore ASMR 500k after party.
>Finally Whore himself again when he get 505k
He is even worse than Rushia

>> No.20855327

>>20855180
The more I read about Luxiem's fansbase, the more they seem like petulant children

>> No.20855361

Speaking about cover staff, they're getting a lot of shit from the talents lately
>Towa, Mio, Miko, etc blasts them publicly on stream for letting the Luna stuff happened
>Abused, manipulated, and allegedly physically harassed by Suisei for attempting to deny her holofes requests
Must not be a very good week for them

>> No.20855363

>>20855017
One thing is sonic vs bloodborne but there will also be sekiro, seriously if Mori don't get mad at Irys for this she really loves Hololive.

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oh look, they're back

>> No.20855450

>>20855327
Underage females?

>> No.20855454

>>20855250
This time is much worse. Seemingly drove a wedge between him and Pomu. They way he was acting toward her triggered a bunch of his fujos fans that only like male ships. Now he has to be really careful around Pomu so he doesn't get them mad again. Expect him to pay up being gay to an over-the-top extent even though he isn't even gay in the first place.

>> No.20855482

>>20855063
At no point has Gura said it was because of other people that she was disappointed, nor are any of these artists ever explicitly named so who the hell is she hurting?
>uh yeah guys I had some finished projects but I didn't like them so I didn't release them
Wow same-chan shattered my career by paying me then not using what she paid for, but also never telling anyone I worked on it!

>> No.20855507

>>20855361
Tardwrangling is in the job description here, this is par for the course honestly. Not saying the Holos’ concerns aren’t valid but dealing with Holomen is quite literally their jobs.

>> No.20855541

>>20855361

the luna thing was so bizarre tho, how the fuck they missed that lol

>> No.20855546

>>20854857
damn another drama huh, I guess that's another $10k.
they know how to milk their viewers.

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leech detected. collab imminent.

>> No.20855561

>>20855361
Nah it was a great week Niji bro. Holo victories are increase exponentially.

>> No.20855585

>>20855323
>>20855382
I see, holoniggers are already seething

>> No.20855591

>>20855361
I fucking hate you

>> No.20855627

>>20855559
If NijiEN could collab with HoloEN, Kiara would've a collab with Pomu already. It won't go anywhere.

>> No.20855633

>>20855559
She can't collab with this one any more than she can Pomu, they're from the same company bro.

>> No.20855657

>>20855299
She'll make it unless she does nothing but collabs and ER, she needs $9k in 9 days and with her streaming schedule $1k is guaranteed almost every day

>> No.20855670

>>20855559
niji girls desperately throwing out the life preservers to holo EN. I like Pomu/Elira so I do hope whichever side is blocking gives up although the discord leak makes that even less likely.

>> No.20855675

>>20855559
>liked everything
cute unityanon

>> No.20855691

>>20855585
I see SEAniggers start awakening

>> No.20855693

>>20855559
Don't you ever use your dirty whore mouth to talk about Elira

>> No.20855755

No Hololive streams for 2 hours. It's 9 PM EST. Then 3 people will overlap.

>> No.20855770

>>20855633
They probably wont ever get to now because of that Discord leak. The talents might be okay with collabing and is okay with letting that slide but management won't

>> No.20855819

>>20855755
The usual fare.

>> No.20855846

>>20855021
Who are those in 2nd and 12th?

>> No.20855851

>>20855755
They are really dumb.

>> No.20855868

>>20855482
>Get hired to make MV by your oshi
>She decides to not release it
I dunno man, I would consider suicide at least

>> No.20855882

>>20855755
They dodge out of overlapping Gura but still want to get some NA time.

>> No.20855888

>>20855755
business as usual

>> No.20855889

>>20855770
I kind of think they will, because Holostars EN will need collab partners. Bae and Mori can't do collabs with them every single week. At that point Cover *will* have something to gain from allowing cross company collabs, unlike now.

>> No.20855914

>>20855363
I think Kronii is the bigger idiot honestly seeing how there's a massive gap where she could have easily streamed and got a lot more potential viewers. Mori and IRyS at least have the excuse that it's morning time in Japan.

>> No.20855923

>>20855755
>irys - Sekiro
>Calli -Bloodbourne
Souls night

>> No.20855938

>>20855021
what the fuck moona 3k

>> No.20855975

>>20855591
Why the hate bro? Im just staring my impression from what I've heard on stream these past few days.
Towa's remark regarding the staffs in particular was a bit harsh to me imo when fuckups happens pretty much every other day

>> No.20856000

>>20855755
is 2japanese vs 1 canadian so makes sense

>> No.20856015

>>20855889
>Bae and Mori can't do collabs with them every single week
Holostars JP you know

>> No.20856031

>>20855914
Kronii does not care about views. I think IRyS and Mori do, but IRyS is gonna be the one to come out of this 3-way standoff as a loser.

>> No.20856060

>>20855938
She got double rainbows and another 1k. All from a single person.

>> No.20856065

>>20855889
Retard, how many times must it be explained NijiEN is (for some fucking reason) blocking these collabs? Even Ollie couldn't get them.

>> No.20856104

>>20855846
#2 - fujobait indies
#12 - Okinawa tourism shill
Both had their 3rd anniversary today funnily enough

>> No.20856126

>>20855889
>I kind of think they will, because Holostars EN will need collab part
Like Myth? Lol. First stars gen should expect to carry this shit on their own+ senpai, that's what a first gen does.

>> No.20856132

>>20855327
Chat reflects the streamer and if the streamer don't speak his mind shit gets out of control
>Vox, Luca and Mysta have similar and disgusting chats
>Only mysta spoke his mind time to time
>Luca was the most beta, so his got worse and worse
>Shu and Ike being chill dudes didn't have those problems

>> No.20856147
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20856147

>>20853710
He's just behind Akina (24th most subbed channel in Nijisanji JP excluding the official and unit channels).

>> No.20856192

>>20855021
>vox
vox you need to let go of FNAF
no one cares about your shitty signature game

>> No.20856228

>>20855180
Where the hell did he find these mods.

>> No.20856237

>>20855559
>call elira leech
>likes everything
cute tsundere anon wants Ewiwa to collab with orange woman

>> No.20856291

>>20856147
Heh, I just realized nijiniggers barely ever discuss who NijiEN is beating on their side. When Gura debuted she was compared to literally everyone every day.

>> No.20856305

>>20856132
shu showed tobe anti shipping early on.
Luca is a retard and all of this started becasuehedidnt ignore the pomu sc
>are you guys dating
>ha ha no...why dont you guys ship me with the guys

>> No.20856318

>>20856015
Holostars JP are uh.....dogshit as far as attracting interest goes. And that's putting it as politely as possible. That's completely setting aside the possibility few or none of them will be able to speak Japanese.

They'll have pools of collab partners to choose from:

Holostars JP
Whatever Holos will collab with them, which is like a dozen people total maybe?
Niji JP
Small corpos
Whatever JP and EN indies they can scrounge up
The toxic and cancerous world of twitch vtubers

None of that is particularly appealing. The Niji EN branch is the biggest group of solid reliable English speaking collab partners by far.

>> No.20856348

>>20855923
Sekiro is not a souls game
Sekiro is a superior entertainment product that transcends labels

>> No.20856352

>>20856291
nijien fasn dont watch nijiJP
they only know king and chin man

>> No.20856381

>>20856126
The first gen of a branch that gets like 500 average viewers rather than the first gen of Hololive which gets like 8k average.

>> No.20856407

>>20856352
I forgive them. The lowliest holobrony probably knows most holos. Its impossible to keep track of all the nijis.

>> No.20856423

>>20856318
>a dozen
Mori, Bae, Mumei (huge maybe), Fubuki (once), Matsuri (maybe) are the only ones I can think of.

>> No.20856437

>>20856228
Chinese or Indo probably

>> No.20856448

>>20856291

>NijiEN audience
>Knowing about NijiJP

lol, people probably are aware of like, Kuzuha, Kanae (Kuzuha boyfriend) and Toya because he is le funny lolicon

>> No.20856459

>>20855693
wrong thread nijikek

>> No.20856480
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20856480

Anya is going places

>> No.20856509

>>20856480
this can't be real

>> No.20856515

>>20856448
Don't forget about Mito

>> No.20856521

>>20856423
All of HoloID (but maybe not all of them 1 on 1) too.

>> No.20856533

>>20856480

GO ANYA GO

>> No.20856544

>>20856352
>they only know king and chin man
The only nijis that matter

>> No.20856565

>>20856448
reality is, most nijiEN audience before luxiem
knew more about holoJP than niji
/vt/ tribalfagging do not represent the majority which is people that watch both sides

>> No.20856652

>>20856480
Anya being enlisted into one of Kojimbo's wacky projects would confirm we are on a cursed clown timeline.

>> No.20856656

>>20856423
Sora, Aki, Choco, Roboco, Towa maybe? Not the most appealing lineup.

>> No.20856693

>>20856423
Ollie, Suisei if managers want to push some song, same for Irys.

>> No.20856713

>>20856521
Risu/Iofi/Ollie
The rest don't care too much about the stars.

>> No.20856717

>>20856509
it.. it actually is lmao

>> No.20856765

>>20856509
It is
https://twitter.com/RealGDT

>> No.20856800

>>20856480
Dude seems to be *very* active on twitter, not surprising he would retweet some good quality fanart someone sent him or he saw on a tag he watches.

>> No.20856818

>>20856480
Anyway this is why Anya played all death stranding all that time

>> No.20856855

>>20856480
Based Totoro san

>> No.20856879

>>20856693
They'll never collab with Suisei unless they're very talented singers and she shows interest.

>> No.20856911

>>20856480
why does hikosan like DS so much?

>> No.20856950

>>20855180
This is completely false. I have no idea where you even got it. Mizuchi is Lucas dramawhore mod who he may be fucking. She pretended to be a fan on an alt account to tell everyone to stop shipping Luca with people and then deleted the account shortly after.

>> No.20857040

>>20856950
Sure that's why he lectured his entire fanbase and not just settled the matter privately with one specific mod.

>> No.20857072
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20857072

how do we save the homostars bro... and sanbaka...

>> No.20857106

>>20857040
He lectured the entire fanbase because they called his girlfriend a bitch. What do you think "defending me" was all about retard

>> No.20857145

>>20857072
Uproar will incline Stars, its pretty much guaranteed. But it won't incline them to being super relevant. If it can drag them to being 1k shitters instead of 500 shitters, then it'd be a great success.

Uproar designs just POP a bit harder than the extremely bland shit stars use right now.

>> No.20857171

>>20857106
If your entire fanbase calls your girlfriend a bitch your girlfriend is probably a bitch.

>> No.20857186

>>20857106
Obviously it didn't work because shes more hated than ever.

>> No.20857226

>>20857106
Sounds like he's basically cucking his entire fanbase and using his girlfriend to call them all losers. That's even worst than appointing a mainlander to be your mod.

>> No.20857255
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20857255

>Checked the YGO tournament out of curiosity
>They sound fucking bored
>Pomu is literally just eating
>Even YGO actual tournament commentary has more excitement than this

Yeah no wonder it can't break 10k, this is more like a couple of friends playing YGO over discord than an actual tournament

>> No.20857276

Damn, Anya going mainstream with her stuff being retweeted by both Kojima and Del Toro.

Now, if only we can get Norman to use Twitter back again.

>> No.20857284

>>20856950
holy fucking based, slamming his mod while shitting on his fans

>> No.20857288

>>20857255
The c-chemistry!

>> No.20857307

>>20857072
why the fuck is ultraman doing NFT

>> No.20857327

>>20857255
Nijien always call everything tournament and concerts pls understand

>> No.20857347

>>20857171
She shouldn't be involving herself at all, but shes using Luca to try and get her own vtuber career off the ground so she needs to call attention to herself. This is like the 3rd drama she alone has caused. The first was when she banned the sweat emoji from chat because it was too suggestive towards Luca, which he later said he was fine with chat using, and the second was her insulting the chinese fans. (Though they're sensitive as fuck so it was really her fault but she should learn to keep her mouth shut)

>> No.20857395

>>20857255
They're trying to humor Rosemi. This is like her go-to content. Think of this like the Mirror Universe Jump King Tournament.

>> No.20857503

>>20857347
Appointing your own girlfriend and an aspiring vtuber to be your mod, and not just a background mod, but someone who talks to chat AND on your social media as if they have authority to speak and act for you, is a huge fucking red flag. Conflict of interest much? Do they not even run the talents through a 10 minute professional ethics course? Even Vshoujo does a better job with this stuff.

>> No.20857504

>>20857395
huh, i get it now

>> No.20857565

>>20857327
Thanks for reminding me to listen to Enna's karaoke, oops i mean concert

>>20857395
actually accurate but if you put it that way it's kinda cute. They are trying to make their autistic friend happy

>> No.20857570

Does Luxiem have a drama checklist to keep themselves relevant each week?

I mean, these Twitch-converts are making indie vtuber dramas look like child's play

>> No.20857581

>>20856656
>Aki
When was the last time she directly collabed with a Holostar?

>> No.20857586

>>20857503
>professional ethics course
It's just streaming, Niji lets their talents have actual freedom on how to handle their channels. At least Luca won't have management "accidentally" modding his antis.

>> No.20857626

>>20857503
Wait. This isn't a shitpost? He actually did that? And he still has female fujo fans? The mental gymnastics of some people

>> No.20857694

>>20857581
Sometimes she does singing streams accompanied by a male guitarist. That implies at least a willingness to collab with males, wouldn't be a stretch to say she'd collab with Holostars especially since she needs all the help she can get to make some more inroads with EN fans.

>> No.20857704

>>20857626
Fujos are more pathetic than unicorns.

>> No.20857714

>>20857504
duelist here. Is she good? I will check out clips regardless. t. duelist

>> No.20857721

>>20857347
Does luca have any management at all? Fucking hell lol

>> No.20857760

>>20857626
Yeah and Ame talked shit about the Niji discord leak in her last Oblivion stream.
I'll post proof next thread.

>> No.20857761

>>20857503
Well its been a disaster. And I'll give a guess on what set her sperging out, it wasn't the fujo ships, it was someone asking him about Pomu on stream.

>> No.20857795

>>20857626
Nah it's true. Like half the male talents are infested with favoritism and mod drama. Weird how not a single female of the 3 prior waves has had anything happen. For whatever reason they carry themselves like 2-bit twitch indies rather than someone who represents a large corporate interest.

>> No.20857819

>>20857145
There is no way the current Stars incline because of the new debuts, I just can't see it.
They are just adding more irrelevant streamers in the group.

Maybe, the new ones can all get Roberu level viewership (around 1K) because Cover has probably higher standards this time around when it comes to their audition than the previous Holostars waves meaning they will be more entertaining/talented but that's it.

By the way what do you think about their debut numbers?
Can they, at least, do Luxiem debut numbers, 22-32K?

>> No.20857876

>>20857694
I didn't ask about the Ashino acoustic lives (those are some of her more interesting content), I am asking about the Holostar themselves.

>> No.20857927

>>20857819
>Cover has probably higher standards this time around when it comes to their audition than the previous Holostars waves meaning they will be more entertaining/talented but that's it.
Sometimes I wonder if Holostars get bad numbers because they are under-promoted or if they're just bad streamers who are boring af.

>> No.20857938

>>20857795
Unlike the cucked nips Western viewers actually detest corporate oversight so it's a smart move.

>> No.20857936

>>20857819
>waves

>> No.20857973

>>20857819
>They are just adding more irrelevant streamers in the group
Just like nijien post luxiem

>> No.20857976

>>20857876
Here's your answer: I don't watch Aki. I've seen her collab with the guitar dude once or twice. If you want to scour her archives to see if she's collabed with Holostars knock yourself out.

>> No.20857983

>>20857819
>Can they, at least, do Luxiem debut numbers, 22-32K?
Very possible. Stars broke 27k and 21k themselves with their main channel holofes streams a few days ago, and debuts punch above what streamers can usually achieve (see Holox) because of tourism.

>> No.20858010

>>20857927
It's the brand. It's a way bigger debuff than being labelled ID.

>> No.20858085

>>20857927

>or if they're just bad streamers who are boring af

i watched some of them when none of the girls was streaming and this is the big problem honestly. as a group they can be kinda fun (like that 3d segment on the expo, that was cool) but solo streams.. jesas

>> No.20858093

>>20857927
It's impossible that they're underpromoted. Just merely by association they are more well-known than 95% of male Japanese vtubers. Many people are aware of them. Many people have either chosen never to check them out or have and were not entertained. It's not hard to conclude they're a little on the boring side.

>> No.20858166

>>20857983
I think their debuts will get an absolute ton of tourists, who will then never watch them again. Wouldn't be surprised if they hit 40-50k, maybe higher if Cover blocks out the schedule for them.

>> No.20858235

>>20858093
At least on the EOP side, there's literally no way you haven't heard about homostars from some EOP beggar worming his way into a conversation with
>the boys are underrated, I hope they break the barriers and collab with them more

To the EOP mind each of these people is owed at least several one on one collabs with Gura and Pekora or Cover isn't giving them a fair shot.

>> No.20858234

>>20857819
>There is no way the current Stars incline because of the new debuts, I just can't see it.
I think this is their first debut since like early 2020, the first post-Myth, and you know that the audience is different from what it was back then. If they got someone that speaks English, that person might just get enough attention to incline the rest of the branch just form having them around.

>> No.20858252

I love that Luxiem is the gift that keeps on giving. Noctyx probably browsed 4chan, saw these threads, and realized that the audience was not worth it.

No wonder you see the least pandering in Noctyx.

>> No.20858278

>>20858166
Yeah, but that's how debuts work for hololive nowadays

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>>20858166
>blocks out the schedule for them
Those homos stream over holojps big day, they can block other homo schedule tho, and maybe ID

>> No.20858398

>>20858278
It's how debuts for everyone works. Edengumi, Council, Luxiem, Noctyx, Ridiculous ect. But it'll be a lot steeper for them. Instead of dropping to 5k they're gonna drop to 500.

>> No.20858420

>>20858252
Still waiting for all this drama to actually affect Luxiem's numbers instead of just giving their fujos more reasons to "show support" and shower them with SCs.
Vox supposedly committed the yab of all yabs by fracturing his chink viewerbase, but his CCV and sub growth didn't take any hit.

>> No.20858461

>>20858284
Depends if Cover cares about people watching them. If the JPs stream over them it's basically a signal of "lol no one cares" and they'll get shit for numbers. A lot of casual might not even know they're debuting. If there's no streams it's much harder to not notice.

>> No.20858510

>>20858420
His CCV has absolutely taken a hit, he's had trouble even clearing 10k recently. His SCs have also been fairly middling.

>> No.20858563

>>20858510
Its hard to tell if the CCV loss is from drama or just a shit schedule. He got 14k on the only decent streaming game he had.

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>>20858420
reminds me of this i saw earlier today, doesnt matter what he does unless its actually the final yab

>> No.20858644

>>20857714
if you mean rosemi yes.

here some highlights
https://youtu.be/NHHuTnzKZ1k
https://youtu.be/jXoyIgw18SQ

>> No.20858682

>>20858563
Vox's content has always been pure garbage, it's just the amount of people watching that gives the illusion of it being "good" or "buff".

>> No.20858707

>>20858510
That's why all Nijiniggers in here start using sub growth as a cope. However, that growth will not take them to 4M subs as they hope.

>> No.20858713

>>20858563
That was a collab with a male dumbass..

>> No.20858720

>>20858613
At this point, what will Vox's Final Yab even be? It seems like his fanbase will let him get away with anything

>> No.20858737

>>20858613
Do they really greentext?

>> No.20858739

>>20858166
>Wouldn't be surprised if they hit 40-50k
rumao. no.. >>20857072

>> No.20858751

>>20858510
He got 7k and 8k with zatsus recently, which is around what he normally gets pre-yab.
8k for Hades is on the high side for a game like Hades.
14k It takes two with Shoto is strong.
10k FNAF is what he usually gets.
His white day ASMR stream barely missed 10k because of overlap.
Are we seriously going to pretend he's not going to get 25k+ and $30k next month for his birthday + 500k sub celebration?

I know you guys want Luxiem to fall apart, but it hasn't happened yet. Wait till his median drops to 6k or when he fails to get $80k SC in a month before doomposting.

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>>20856459
>nijikek
nice try faggot

>> No.20858787

>>20858613
These fujos are worse than kpop fans.

>> No.20858807

>>20858752
do nijikeks really?

>> No.20858824

>>20858720
Nothing, people will just get bored of his repetitive content and people will come along in some of the later waves and take away most of what audience is left. The fate of a red dwarf rather than a supernova.

>> No.20858834

>>20858682
This is about numbers, not quality.

>> No.20858881

>>20858510
>>20858563
>>20858613
Vox could say Taiwan is a country and get away with it. He is just too autistic to take seriously but not autistic enough to don't be hot for women

>> No.20858896

>>20858824
Or the new waves will add in more audience for them. After all, Riku does not become CEO for doing nothing, his strategy will work on the EN side.

>> No.20858916

>>20858751
The luxiem white day streams overlapping was fucking dumb of them

>> No.20858940

>>20858834
The guy said he had a bad schedule and that's why he has bad numbers. I'm pointing out that he always has a bad schedule.

>> No.20858974

>>20858751
There's a difference between something falling apart and something declining. Vox has declined some, likely due in some part to his stupidity (like taking art from a Taiwanese artist and putting the mainland's flag behind it)

>> No.20858995

>>20858896
Like Noctyx added audience for them?

>> No.20859030

>>20858752
>patra
Excuse me gentleman, you are based

>> No.20859041

>>20858563
He's gotten 7-8k on his shit content so it's safe to say that is his floor now without significant overlap. Same with Mysta.
They have been staggering their schedules to avoid overlapping too much and reaped the benefits (Yugo gets fucked for ovelapping with both).

>>20858682
Numbers thread, retard. He can be doing nothing but licking an ASMR mic for 10 hours, but if he gets 20k, it's 20k.

>> No.20859076

>>20858974
Saw screenshots the other day when Vox was shown on Chinese TV, it was from both Hunan TV and Hebei TV.

Doubt Vox will get any steep decline after that.

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20859107

so the reason gura sat on this MV is because she told the animator to do something in between the king mouth and the anime ricardo meme and what she got was a complete shit version of it right?
that does make me wonder if EN could license u got that and make it a meme video like ochame kinou or that stupid nyancat shit niji and the nijikiller did

>> No.20859111

>>20859041
Then if he gets 8k it's 8k and no "oh its just a bad schedule". Decline is decline.

>> No.20859159

>>20859107
I don't know what this means.

>> No.20859173

Good on Reine for seeing some prime time slot and running with it.

>> No.20859175

>>20858940
Im pointing out that putting a mic next to his controller during smash, playing Apex with a woman and
explaining the FNAF timeline is worse for his audience than normal.

>> No.20859239

>>20859111
He would have gotten 8k on those streams pre yab. I don't know why people are acting like he wasn't getting those numbers before on his weirder stuff.

>> No.20859241

>>20859107
Is this... English? It looks like it. But, the letters and words together don't make any sense.

>> No.20859249

>>20858974
>Decline
His median so far in March is 10k, which is his highest median ever.
This week, he has had a few underperforming streams, which is understandable because they were zatsus and Hades, and they weren't even that low (~8k is not bad).
By that logic, then Bae has declined incredibly since February since she's had 2 streams that can't get more than 6k this week despite her median being 10k last month.

>> No.20859301

>>20858720
Eh, I never subscribed to the theory that when one final yab is revealed, suddenly people will leave in droves and you got ruined. That only happens either with spectacular Cosby tier yab, or more commonly when you're cancelled into irrelevance it's because people are already losing interest in you, they just need an excuse.Rushia's yab is one of the worst you can do, and yet Cover recovers and she still have her audience.

As long as people still like you and find you interesting, just apologize and lay low, let it all blow over, and return as usual after some time. People had memories of goldfish anyway. That being said, if you're a constant yab machine people will start to leave bit by bit, either that or you attract fans who are only there for the drama which is arguably even worse.

>> No.20859305

>>20859107
nigga what

>> No.20859338

>>20859111
He always got 7-8k on his zatsus pre-yab, retard.
You can see he's done from the 3 zatsuscape streams in the past 2 months.
When Gura got 13k with Mother Simulator a few days ago, was that also a decline? And then she just inclined again yesterday right?

>> No.20859356

Nijisanji damage control squad
>Quick, we must save the reputation of our lord Vox!!!

>> No.20859394

>>20859249
Oh if /#/s wants to start comparing HoloEn streams to their past medians we can really start to talk about decline.

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>exists
>farms women
>makes # seethe
interesting

>> No.20859600

wonder who's behind these posts

>> No.20859658

I feel like the seething Nijinigger from yesterday is back, but a little tamer.

>> No.20859676

38 minutes until actual streams.

>> No.20859674

>>20859394
Except HoloEN is culled and Luxiem isn't so directly comparing their respective CCV history is retarded.

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nijibros...

>> No.20859690

any potential stream with big numbers for today ? aside from 2 neo porte debut

>> No.20859707

>>20857973
Well, not really, Noctyx is still doing well, just not as good as Luxiem.
They all have 3-4K medians and the only girls that have similar medians to them are Selen and Pomu.

I don't think you have to be a 10K streamer to be "relevant" but man, streaming in front of 400-800 people like most of Holostars doesn't help their case.

>> No.20859725

>>20859600
I can see the typical SEA/chink schizo using NijiEN males as ammo to try and shill their relentless campaign to convince three people in this thread that nijiniggers will one day defeat cover, but actually talking about their content in such detail I refuse to believe a straight male would watch them so it must unironically be some goblin phenotype chink or indo woman.

>> No.20859734

>>20859394
That's the point, number fluctuations, especially when it's not even big changes, aren't fucking declines.
The only big decline I can think of in recent memory is Hachaama, whose numbers fell off a cliff.

>> No.20859799

>>20859690
Peko Chilla's

>> No.20859849

>>20859799
what's your prediction ? 30k floor ?

>> No.20859850

>>20859690
Ange new costume

>> No.20859946

>>20859707
Yeah, Noctyx looks bad next to Luxiem, but if ENstars can get their numbers, they'll be considered a resounding success.
Probably has to do with shit game choices too, seeing as Sonny has gotten 8k twice recently, numbers than the girls rarely get.

>> No.20859965
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20859965

I know it’s still processing, but the likes to view ratio during these MV freezes will never not be funny to me. It looks like the stupidest shit ever

>> No.20859999

>>20859690
Wait, they're debuting 2 today instead of shifting everyone's debut schedule by a day?

>> No.20860027

Luxiem had been trying really hard to incline that Shoto guy. Any noticeable difference in his twitch tracker after every Collab?

>> No.20860040

>>20859965
You mean it's not normal that 1 out of every 2 people who watched the video left a like?
Whaaaa-

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Dunno, if I see a fucking 2nd stream of Omori beating Vox I think decline. You literally cannot get any more debuff than Omori. That game is cancerous to numbers.

>> No.20860149

>>20860027
He gets better numbers than Shu.

>> No.20860209

>>20860146
That says more about Ike than Vox. Ike has been building his weird ass indie games audience. Its impressive because when they debuted Ike had some really weak numbers. Lower than some of the girls even.

>> No.20860242
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>>20860027
Not sure about every collab, but Shoto has been inclining fast.
3 months ago, his avg was 2k and this week, his avg is 6k.
He also interacts a lot with NijiEN males on twitter so his twitter engagement stats are pretty retarded compared to his follower count.

He went from "Next NijiEN wave prospect" to "probably too big to give up his identity to go corpo" now, like Bao but Bao was a big indie before NijiEN.

>> No.20860248

>>20860027
Woah, before Luxiem, he was a sub 800 views. In February, he consistently gets above 1k and then in march, his ccv never dips below 2k and averages around 4k. That's a huge incline for someone leeching of a male debut.

>> No.20860279

>>20859679
is this going to be the weakest month for Nijisanji since October 2020?

>> No.20860328

This thread feels like 1 person replying to themself

>> No.20860334

>>20860146
I wonder. I've played through Omori, seems to be the type of game that would do better for a majority female audience given the themes and story, but that's just a guess on my part.

>> No.20860338

>>20860242
>>20860248
What bout that SunKen guy on twitch who was said to be the biggest male vtuber indie previously? What happened to him? He tweeted wanting to join Niji before.

>> No.20860389

>>20860242
Better than all of Noctyx. Fitting I guess since he collabs with Luxiem more than Noctyx does.

>> No.20860435

>>20860328
most of the time it is

>> No.20860448

>>20860146
Ike's first Omori stream was 4k, him getting 8k on the 2nd stream is an anomaly.

Decline/Incline is relative to the streamer in question anyways.
Vox has always got around 7-8k with zatsu. If anything, his zatsu that day was overlapping with Ike's Omori so it could've been even higher until Reimu joined and tanked it.
.

>> No.20860460

>>20860146
Omori for female streamers that have mostly guys as audience = debuff

Omori for male streamers that have mostly women as audience = buff

>> No.20860489

>>20860279
This was supposed to be the weakest Holo month...

>> No.20860584

>>20860209
cultivating your fanbase to your interest is the smartest thing you can do. Nui can get away by playing only rpgs thanks to that and of course boobs

>> No.20860617

>>20860460
I think Omori is extra bad because it's already a debuff and it's fucking long too.
It's 20 hours if you just speed through it, but it could easily be longer.

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYL_a_HZzLY

Millie's Identity cover with Enna has reached 1M views.

It's the second Nijisanji EN cover that reaches that milestone and third overall song (not including the debut songs that run as ads for the first week of the new waves).

>> No.20860667

>>20860448
The start of Omori is fucking boring, most people only care about the later parts when it gets fucked up. I thought this happened too for mori

>> No.20860678

>>20860489
With HoloFes buff, I doubt Nijisanji will win the next few months until that baseball stuff.

>> No.20860723

>>20860620
We really don't numberfag ad-boosted music covers in here.

>> No.20860731

>>20860620
>~2 months
That's very fast considering Identity isn't a popular cover song and Millie's channel barely gets traffic.
I don't think Irys or Lui's can get to 1 mil in 2 months.

>> No.20860737

>>20859679
>28-2

what the fuck happened there

>> No.20860753

>>20860620
2 months, not bad at all. That's a solid achievement for her and Enna.

>> No.20860785
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Brazilian Doge VTuber with 1.27 million subscribers.
https://www.youtube.com/c/BergTv

>> No.20860797

>>20860620
it's one of the best covers of the song so it isn't a surprise it reached the milestone. A lot of the jp comments even admit they are only here for the music rather than millie herself

>> No.20860826

>Reine Elden Ring: 3.7k
This game just keeps giving. Strongest EN buff game since Minecraft with insane consistency.

>> No.20860836

>>20860620
Kind of pathetic considering it's being covered by members of a big corpo group.

>> No.20860873

>>20860737
first full month after Myth debut and no CCV fuckery from youtube.

>> No.20860903

>>20860836
>NijiEN
>big

>> No.20860913

https://reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/tkafg0/haha_jk_unless/
And of course the sub is full of nijibeggars begging for a collab and shilling their nijis
I really fucking wish Kiara would stop giving those leeches an in

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>>20860785

>> No.20860942 [DELETED] 

>>20860737
It's called "Japs love Holo Vampire Survivor" and "Kuzuha loves Elden Ring but he can only get ~25k on it, which isn't enough for gold".
One of those Niji wins was a 3D debut and outside of those or main channel shit, Kuzuha is their only hope.

>> No.20860961

>>20860737
The myth honeymoon

>> No.20860965

>>20860826
ID Gold!

>> No.20860969

>>20860737
Pre-cull Holo EN.

>> No.20860990

>>20860927
Are there actual streams with good numbers, or is it just another latam clip channel?

>> No.20861002

>>20860903
Their talents can't afford to buy ads so it's logical to think that Anykara funded it.

>> No.20861016

>>20860913
There seems to have been an increase in collab beggars in the Subreddit ever since Coco left

>> No.20861031

I don't know about you anons but HoloFes seems like it seals the fates of both Holo and Niji.
Hololive keeps getting stronger, even HoloID is experiencing a huge incline.
On the other hand, Nijisanji is still plateauing for almost 2 years. If something is not done, there will be more cuts.

>> No.20861029

>>20860942
Check your months blindfag, 28-2 is 2020.

>> No.20861043

>>20860927
TICK TOCK SUBARU HUEHUEHUE

>> No.20861056

>>20860965
Nah, that'd be Moona's Mamah stream.

>> No.20861076

>>20860990
it's got a fucking random dog for the channel avatar what do you think

>> No.20861150

>>20861031
They don't know how to develop talents.
I feel they'd be more successful if they target streamers and convert them to become vtubers.

>> No.20861157

>>20861031
The lucky star of niijisanji is ironically Luxiem with their chink and sea fanbase. But that fanbase is also disconnected to the NijiJP fanbase.

>> No.20861169

>>20861031
nijiexpo will also incline niji

>> No.20861189
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>>20860942
embarrassing

>> No.20861207

>>20861169
NijiExpo will show Hololive what a REAL #1 Vtuber Company looks like

>> No.20861216

>>20861031
>Nijisanji is still plateauing for almost 2 years. If something is not done, there will be more cuts.
Too bad Holofes happened after Luxiem's debuts and Vox is gaining fucking 136k subs a month now or else you can actually say they've plateaued.

>> No.20861247

>>20861169
Not if it's canceled again thanks to Watamage

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HoloID is just destroying Nijisanji EN males right now.

>> No.20861276

>>20861248
its over

>> No.20861315

>>20861216
Tell that to me when Vox has a statue, appears on national TV and even performs in front of 4k people

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>>20861248
Sorry

>> No.20861340

>>20861248
I think it was a big mistake for Millie's part for not joining Hololive.

>> No.20861347

>>20861248
I was going to call you out for omitting Rosemi but she is literally bleeding viewers cause youtube is shitting itself

>> No.20861357

>>20861031
Niji used to be no.1, now they are no.2. Cover is great coming from behind. Holostars gonna incline soon, i can feel it.

>> No.20861359

>>20861169
Did last year Nijifes make Nijisanji incline?

>> No.20861377

>>20861248
Nijisanji is an embarrassment at this point

>> No.20861397

>>20861207
Does niji expo even have a concert?

>> No.20861400

>>20861320
How did Shu decline so badly? He has collab and debut buffs and still couldn't beat an indog.

>> No.20861413

>>20861031
Quit the doomposting.
Now, if NijiExpo rolls around and they remain stagnant, then I'll join you in ringing the doombell, but it's just a string of very unfortunate events for Niji right now is all.

>> No.20861436

>>20861359
Tourists central, no. High ccv but....

>> No.20861438

>>20861359
it helped kill Niji IN so yes

>> No.20861472

>>20855585
ching chong ling long ping pong to you to fellow chinkers

>> No.20861497

>>20861400
Reine is super buffed right now.
Like, she's kinda nuts playing Elden ring (and there's no HoloEN streaming right now, seriously watching her play is kinda like a fever dream at times).

>> No.20861499

>>20861315
>Vox is the fastest growing corpo vtuber atm
>If he doesn't have a 3D concert or a life-sized statue then the company is not growing
Brain damage...

>> No.20861503

>>20861400
Shu is the least popular Luxiem member and frequently gets lower numbers than many Noctyx members. Probably because he mostly hangs out with the girls and doesn't pander at all. He was the only Luxiem member to not do a white day stream.

>> No.20861519

>>20861400
bait but shu is literally streaming his POV for no fucking reason, Rosemi is catching all the numbers for the collab

>> No.20861549

So has Lauren basically been silently put out to pasture? I haven't heard any inkling of his return.

>> No.20861559

>>20861359
Nijisanji is a bigger tourist central than Hololive

>> No.20861564

2k waiting room on Irys
2,300k waiting room for Kroni
4k waiting room for Mori
This is the stupid overlap ever, they had literally 2 free hours of prime-time slot without a single stream.

>> No.20861590

>>20861503
didn't he get like 14k in a jap talk stream the other day?

>> No.20861609

>>20861499
Gura got that treatment because she was attracting new viewers.
Since Vox is attracting new viewers, why doesn't Nijisanji main HQ treat him like a king?

>> No.20861608

>>20861559
But no loyal fans.

>> No.20861613

>>20861559
>bigger tourist central than Holo
>Holos, where talents have 1 mil subs but only 1k CCV
Do Holofags really believe this?

>> No.20861638

>>20860737
>OCTOBER 2020 GOLD
1) Gura - 67,762 - 1st Karaoke
2) Gura - 49,448 - Outlast
3) Morinaka - 33,565 - Totsu wave 2
4) Pekora - 45,580 - Minecraft
5) Aqua - 46,919 - gen 2 offcollab Live
6) Gura - 44,515 - Dark Deception
7) Aqua - 45,919 - offcollab shion marine
8) Marine - 31,807 - Missing children w Aqua
9) Gura - 54,930 - Minecraft build atlantis
10) Ina - 47,135 - Unarchived karaoke
11) Gura - 67,587 - HoloEN server
12) Shion- 36,310 - Fall guys
13) Gura - 59,272 - Minecraft enchanting
14) Pekora - 55,669 - Minecraft
15) Gura - 45,006 - Minecraft w/ Ame
16) Pekora - 55,765 - Pekodam
17) Mori - 51,347 - Mori live music show
18) Marine - 133,465 - Costume reveal
19) Suisei - 95,632 - 500k 3D Live
20) Gura - 57,344 - Minecraft diamond
21) Miko - 142,694 - Return 3D stream
22) Narukami - 61,979 - Nijisanji drama
23) Hakase - 67,550 - 3D Debut
24) Gura - 69,779 - Amongus ENxGen5
25) Choco - 45,735 - Costume reveal
26) Haachama - 87,557 - Costume reveal
27) Pekora - 53,626 - Holo Amongus
28) Matsuri - 46,839 - Costume reveal
29) Gura - 60,630 - solo Amongus
30) Pekora - 60,437 - Minecraft
31) Gura - 40,096 - DBD

TOTAL GOLD SO FAR
> PER COMPANY
28x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji
1x: Indies

> PER STREAMER
11x: Gura
5x: Pekora
2x: Marine, Aqua
1x: Mori, Ina, Miko, Matsuri, Suisei, Choco, Shion, Haachana, Morinaka, Hakase, Narukami

>> No.20861652

>>20861564
They are testing the Niji format, only the strongest boobs will survive

>> No.20861670

>>20861359
Not really. It generated a buzz for sure but it's not as huge as Holofes.
Holofes showed everyone that Hololive has access to cutting edge tech and that they're a legit idol group. Hololive is in a tier of their own.

>> No.20861669

>>20861413
Same here, it's really a shame that it seemed like their streak of misfortune just kept on piling up recently. The new VTA graduates debut stream was a point where they could at least generate some sort of hype after nippleboi and the plagiarizing shitshow happened but why the fuck were they scheduling it during HoloFes, doesn't make any fucking sense.

>> No.20861675

>>20861609
Why would a King care about what others think of him?
Vox already knows he is a King, he needs no confirmation

>> No.20861684

>>20861549
If they get rid of him/ he voluntarily leaves, will they still be nipplesanji?

>> No.20861688

>>20861590
Yeah Shu is the only person in Luxiem who actually speaks Japanese so he has a significant JP fanbase that wants to watch an American speak Japanese.
He's American tho so he streams in burger times, eventho his sleep schedule is like Ina's so he could stream in JP times if he wants to.

>> No.20861840

>>20861675
>Kuzuha
FIFY

>> No.20861870

>>20861340
Who says she got the chance? She's not necessarily too ESL for Holo EN but it's borderline and a strike against her. She's ineligible for ID due to not speaking Indonesian.

>> No.20861895

>>20861675
This post is retarded

>> No.20861917

>>20861684
>Get rid of him
No
>He leaves voluntarily
Yes

>> No.20861919

>>20861340
Backstabbing bitch.

>> No.20861937

>>20861684
Until the end of time.

>> No.20861942

>>20861638
Debut Buff Gura was just a monster. I don't know why Voxfags think he is the second coming of Kuzuha when we know that the first ENs would be a success.

>> No.20861974

>>20861684
Why would anyone want to leave Nijisanji? Their environment is perfect. Luxiem and Noctyx will save him.

>> No.20862038

>>20856480
>Kojima
>GDT
Truly the giant of ID

>> No.20862058

>>20861840
Funnily enough, Kuzuha does have all those things.
>irl 3D live in front of thousands of people
>statue
>appeared on National television

>>20861870
I used to think this, but apparently Hana doesn't speak any indo either and she's NijiID.

>> No.20862072

>>20861974
They'll torture their nipples in solidarity.

>> No.20862099

>>20861638
People lament Gura's numbers back then but goddamn look at Peko' too.

I will never forgive Susan for taking the numbers away, it doesn't even make any fucking sense

>> No.20862102

>>20861503
Shu unironically fits the Hololive tag, he could've gotten into Stars and his personality could get along well with the others. Too bad he didn't wait for the official stars auditions.

>> No.20862121

>>20861942
Look at popular YT streamers like Ludwig and Valkyrae, their numbers are matching Gura when their Twitch numbers were higher. This clearly tells you a lot of things.

>> No.20862192

>>20861942
>I don't know why Voxfags think he is the second coming of Kuzuha when we know that the first ENs would be a success.
No we didn't. In fact, with English speakers, Luxiem has been a middling success at best.

>> No.20862215

>>20862058
There's like 18 Niji ID's, the criteria is less stringent. Yugo can't speak English either but he/she/it's in EN.

>> No.20862219

>>20862102
NijiEN will take over China, why would he want to go to a branch that has no future?

>> No.20862224

>>20861609
Can you imagine if he keeps inclining and becomes nijis most subbed member... Nijisanji the pride of Japan having an english speaking male vtuber equivalent of a twitch thot as the face of the company. damn I only watch a couple of nijijps but it still feels kinda wrong

>> No.20862242

>>20861499
with chink's filthy hand on the deck. The imminent crash will be as fast as the incline

>> No.20862303

>>20862102
He's close friends with Elira, Pomu ect. Guaranteed to get into Niji. Would have been taking his chances to decline and try his luck with a theoretical Holostars audition. He could always try to Luna his way in if he really wants.

>> No.20862375

>>20862058
well unlike everyone else, Kuzuha and Gura actually deserves all the praise they got. They reached that without filthy pandering.

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>>20860990
>>20861076
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgT4C2MTOo0
It's a channel that uploads edited pre-recorded videos, not a stream or stream clip channel. Not every VTuber channel streams.

>> No.20862428

>>20862224
That's why,

Kick Vox out and invite the Vox cult war or don't kick him out and have your brand polluted with people thinking that you're a male gigolo.company

That's why Gura is the best fit for the Hololive's global image and the first gate for normies to get into vtubing

>> No.20862449

>>20862219
Hololive tried that. And some local chink company teamed up with bilibili to kick them out.

>> No.20862463

>>20862242

why this thread insist so much with the whole china thing? guy is literally free from yabs.. they love him to much for anything to happen. and don't even bring up coco, she did it to herself

>> No.20862514

>>20855094
Wait I missed something, what did Gaku do?

>> No.20862516

Did Mori finish elden ring? If not why the hell quit a mega buff game she repeatedly said she enjoyed to start its predecessor instead of turning it into the next game she plays

>> No.20862531

>>20862405
This is why no one takes mexican vtubers seriously. To this day Nemu seems to be literally the only "real" vtuber from their ranks?

>> No.20862555

>>20862514

3d debut

>> No.20862564

>>20855868
>oshi
She is just a client to them.

>> No.20862603

>>20862463
Doesn't matter how much they love him if the CCP crazies get sick of him

>> No.20862605

>>20862516
Takes too long

>>20862449
Luxiem is only a fraction of what Hololive was to China back in the day

>> No.20862608

>>20862516
Elden Ring is stupidly long, I doubt even 10% of vtubers who start it will finish. Ina and Noel might be the only 2 Holos that do.

>> No.20862611

>>20862405
Is it close enough to early day vtuber activity?

>> No.20862649

>>20862428
Ehhh, I'd say Gura would have been a better fit without the loli model. Idiots think she succeeds because of it but that's only true in Japan. For most of the western stream watching audience vtubers are a hard filter, but loli vtubers are hly shit no tier.

Its amazing she got this popular despite it.

>> No.20862654

>>20862463
every single time when the chinks involved in anything it always ended up in conflict. Every single fucking time without fail. Chinks are incapable of having a rational thought and they are incapable of living in harmony together with outsiders.

>> No.20862656

>>20862463
Chinks really traumatized holokeks. Nothing will happen to Vox unless he gets near kpop level numbers, whatever happened to Coco was due to B2 wanting no competition on vtuber space in China.

>> No.20862659

>>20855094
Watame under where she could be considering a lot of her members just switched from throwing SCs to throwing memberships.

>> No.20862667

>>20862514
3d debut and guy love to turn superchat off so his fans basically unleash their love.

>> No.20862747

>>20862219
mercedes-benz arena concert when?

>> No.20862750

>>20862516
No, she said something like how Elden Ring is super long game that she thinks she can play for a while and she wants to guerilla it whenever she feels like streaming.
Bloodborne is shorter (34 hours is still pretty long tho) but she has played it before.

I assume it's the same thing with Irys. Ina, Mori and Irys aren't going to drop Elden Ring.

>> No.20862756

>>20862102
He submitted an application for Holo when they first came out thinking there would be an En stars. Obviously there wasn't.

>> No.20862812

https://news.denfaminicogamer.jp/interview/220318a

Interesting interview with a marketer who specialises in collaboration campaigns with Vtubers. Particular focus on his work relating to Mahjong Soul and Poker Chase. Also some discussion on how VTuber culture differs from conventional YouTubers.

>> No.20862819
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normal stream vs tournament

>> No.20862820

>>20862649
That's because western stream watchers are not vtuber watcher which makes them not within the market audience anyway. They prefer to watch vwhores and disgusting walking yab western roasties.

>> No.20862826

>>20862654
It's mostly because CCP does not want to have their money funneled to the outside world. You can bet that they will organize a fake outrage to cancel Luxiem.

>> No.20862874

>>20862812
Did he say anything about the success of Luxiem and how they managed to go mainstream in both China and Japan?

>> No.20862878

>>20862750
IRyS was already waffling once she heard how long it was, I'd be shocked if she finishes.

>> No.20862918

>>20862531
It's true that not all VTubers have to be streamers, though. Lots of VTubers early on were uploaders, and there's still quite a few active ones sticking to the pre-edited video format.
YouTube has been always been a site for video uploads, and uploaders are still more relevant even after YouTube added livestreaming to their site.
It's only normal for more uploader VTubers to pop up and get big as VTubing as a whole gets bigger worldwide.

>> No.20863058

>>20862819
I'm still laughing at that anon that thought this was gonna be some invincible EN gold stream .Did he think this is niji JP or something>

>> No.20863088

>All sub 10k HoloEN

Double Niji gold then? Luca/Mysta/Vox and Ange outfit for JP

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20 minutes in and numbers are bad as expected, much lower than if there wasn't overlap.
Also RIP Ponto.

>> No.20863125

>>20862611
It looks like the channel was created in 2016 and converted into a VTuber channel in 2019 when it was at just under 100k subscribers, all the past content before that date has been deleted.

>> No.20863239

>>20863088
Seems like a fight between Mysta and Vox. Mysta with a Shoto collab and Vox with an Ike collab.

>> No.20863245

>>20862812
Interesting enough but he does say it isn't good enough just to use vtubers without a strategy or to just leach off of popular vtubers.

>> No.20863257

>>20863098
Damn even new NijiJP females with debut buff are 2views now. Who is the retard who arranged their debut against Holofes with barely any hype?

>> No.20863265

>>20849457
from what?

>> No.20863282

>>20861675
King that can't get 10k every stream. Yikes

>> No.20863299

>>20862819
>Shu stealing viewers for NO reason with an unecessary stream
>Mori's stream is not a normal stream, it's the first stream of fucking Bloodborne which is ULTRA BUFF for EN

I swear, you faggots, have no idea what games are buff/debuff for western viewers.

>> No.20863318

>>20863088
Nijikek precum?

>> No.20863349

Next Thread >>20863011

>> No.20863357

>>20863098
The nips were right about VTA.
Their zatsudan skills are just lacking. They're not ready for the big leagues.

>> No.20863365

>>20863088
Looks like it'll be a triple 10k+ for NijiEN at least.

Luca minecraft will crush all the other NijiEN streams and get 10k.
Mysta x Shoto Bunnyman game will get 10k+ for sure. Vox got 14k with Shoto playing It takes two.
And perfectly staggered is in 2 hours (Mysta's collab would be done by then), Vox and Ike are playing Ao Oni on 1 POV, another easy 10k+.

Meanwhile, we have 3 overlapping HoloEN buff/neutral streams right now.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.20863443

>>20863257
Wouldn't have mattered, honestly they look like bottom of the barrel small corpo PNG tubers.

>> No.20863445

>>20863299
>it's the first stream of fucking Bloodborne which is ULTRA BUFF for EN
Citation, officer? Can you prove this with a source?

>> No.20863458

>>20863365
Luxiem is getting better at not overlapping for the most part. The rest of the branch...

>> No.20863491

>>20862812
>Revived poker chase with Nijisanji
Wait, this interview is straight up shilling Nijisanji. They didn't give more context to how it ended up being 8th place. If the game was about to die, then how did they even afford to sponsor Nijisanji with a 3D dokuzusha battle, 3D all popular males battle or a tournament of all things? They even set up a bar or a 3D location for it. 8th is a shitty ranking to be proud off with all that effort. It's mostly had to do with connections behind the scenes.

>> No.20863542

>>20863299
>Bloodborne
>Super buff
Anon, it hasn't been super buff for a while now. I'd say it's still a buff, but it's been a while since it's released, and it isn't a super memefest like MG:R.

>> No.20863576

>>20863365
I bet Mysta. Vox can get some high numbers but Mysta is Luxiems CCV king. Maybe Ike will be a bigger buff than Shoto, but I doubt it.

>> No.20863583

>>20863365
I hate that Riku doesn't even put out a good message for Luxiem when they are saving Nijisanji right now.
Even that dirty old ass Yagoo often praises HoloEN.

>> No.20863588

>>20861638
>22) Narukami - 61,979 - Nijisanji drama
Holy fucking kek

>> No.20863592

>>20863445
are you one of the retards that believed that Elden Ring wouldn't be that big of a buff?

>> No.20863602

>>20857976
At least you admitted you don't know what you're talking about.

>> No.20863683

>>20863583
NijiJP refuses to acknowledge or support NijiEn.

>> No.20863685

>>20863583
>Saving Nijisanji
Saving Niji with what?

>> No.20863757

>>20863576
My bet is on Mysta too. Bunnyman is a good numbers collab game. 14k is my guess.
Ike and Vox are a popular horror duo tho, they're basically NijiEN's Fauna and Bae. It'll get 10k+ because they will be no overlap and Ao oni is a popular horror game.

>>20863542
If Mori was playing Bloodborne with no overlap, this would be 15k easily.

>> No.20863954

>>20863757
That puts it in "buff/strong buff" range. If we're talking 6 months/a year after release yea Bloodborne was super buff, but it's been too long since its release to call it super buff anymore.

>> No.20864000

>>20863245
Yeah, things like rakugaki Kingdom proves that.

>> No.20864016

>>20863685
NIjiENfags think subs matter when NijiJP was top 1 vtuber company while having less subs than the Four Heavenly kings.

>> No.20864024

>>20863592
Of course FOTM is a buff, bloodborne tho?

>> No.20864058

>>20860913
Please understand. She wants to keep interacting with them so she can lose more of her base to NijiEN.

>> No.20864070

>>20863365
HoloEN clearly don't care about ccv numbers thats why you see a lot of overlaps with them. They just want to have fun streaming.

>> No.20864191

>>20864070
Which can be infuriating at least

>> No.20864211

>>20863299
Wow, FromSoftware games must have done very well for NijiEN for you to say that.

>> No.20864241

>>20864070
No shit, but we're in a numbers thread. This is the place for us to vent about shit no one outside cares about, like how my oshi was 30 away from 20k.

>> No.20864295

>>20864070
They really need someone ambitious from EN. Someone like Pekora who wants be the number one streamer.

>> No.20864321

>>20863757
I'd certainly hope so, considering she's approaching 12k now.

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