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Yea so i realized I didnt have any kindred or vox pics saved so I just picked Dark elf ass instead. Architect btw

>>33067873
I highly approve of this edition name and of the images. I love plus-sized elf, very excellent work, architect.

Blessed thread, very big fan.

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Alright, folks, it looks like our first opponent of the knockouts will be /vsj+/. We were thinking about doing a reading of https://rentry.org/PierreVonFlaggot as part of our HYP, so if any anons want to step up and record themselves doing the narration for the first paragraph, that would be greatly appreciated. Here's hoping for a fun match this Saturday!

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>>33068423
>>33068879
>>33069827
In my opinion, this is precisely the kind of content world building is built off of. Titanic Fantasy Asses. I must conspire with the /lig/ger to find the right indies to spread this phenotype far and wide across the land, currently, Milky seems like a perfect genetic sample to start off with a minotaurish race of people given the pure architectural beauty of her divine titty monster form.
I think that might actually be a good basis for one of the secret purposes of the /ag/ collaborative human cattle project or as it is more commonly known, Baskin Brosnan's. I can see it being really useful for us fetish cults as a large scale operation, a sort of farm that harvests not just milk and other bodily fluids but also as a factory breeding facility that breeds individuals that will slowly spread certain genes throughout their respective populations that might take generations before they become fully expressed but will erupt in brilliant fashion when they finally do, the architecting of not just an entire family or an entire tribe but an entire generation of women.
It could also be used to further the Kindred's goals of giving birth to Vox through the slow but measured process of attaining all traits which compose Milord's concept over the course of what could very well be hundreds of years worth of nonstop secret factory breeding. There could be experiments to determine the factors that optimize fertility and create hyper fertile aphrodisiac drugs, perhaps given enough time it might even be possible to END MENOPAUSE once and for all and cure infertility worldwide. There is much more than meets the eye to this facility and if I can ever get to it I think it'll be a good source of content.

>>33070345
Let us commence war on the battlefield that is the soccer arena WARanon. Together with the rest of our team we shall dominate our opponents!

I know I shouldn't make spec bio for a repless nation. The malestrom between /ahoy/ and Lazulight made me think of mermaids for some reason.

>>33066527
According to the interactive map, upwards of 3000 meters is what the darkest orange corresponds to, the dark red and white would be higher. I think around 5000 m for the highest prominence makes sense.

Based thich choco elf edition. Fantastic work architect!

Nice work indeed...
Do we have any elves already? I know some vtubers are elves in their lore, but I don't think any of their fans actually share that trait.

>>33074961
Most fanbases in lore are modeled after the chuubas so I'd assume the same could be said for Elfriends. We do have Flare and Lamy though Flare in particular does not like to be known as a Dark Elf, from what I've heard from around the block. Still, Flare is a goddess of interest in terms of architectural capabilities, we will look into this...

>>33075433
Given dark elf's "reputation" in many fantasy works, her not wanting to be associated with them seems in line with what I heard about her personality inb4 le racism
I guess she's also fairly pale in complexion, so the skin colour might come from the human side or she's supposed to live somewhere that's sunny. Now that you mention it, Lamy's also apparently a half-elf... it seems pure-blooded elves are surprisingly rare in terms of vtuber lore?

>>33075937
Strange considering Japanese fantasy really likes elves as a trope more than most other countries, I'm certain there's a few popular ones that we're just overlooking but right now I can't think of any. Maybe this could be a lore thing, like a great lost elven race that is referenced in many histories by is seemingly utterly absent? with the plot twist being that humanity crossbred them out of existence through sheer orgasmic energy

>>33076176
Fair point, then again the half-elf thing seems fairly inconsequential, considering that the half-elf vtubers that we get don't seem to display any fewer archetypical elf traits (not that we have a comparison unless someone knows of pure elf characters in vtubing). I guess the only prominent elf stereotype that isn't on display would be elves' tendency to be utter cunts, but I guess that might not work well as vtuber concept given the somewhat interactive nature of things. In that case breeding elf out of existence won't really work since elf traits are apparently dominant when paired with human phenotype (unless the humans in both cases happen to also have elven genes)

>>33076627
>Enter
>The Search For Pure Elf Pussy Arc
I'd love to see it, I think we should try to add in some fantasyish races and animals that aren't explicitly based entirely off of chuubas since instead of having several equally distinct elf races or dragon races, we could have them each be genetically related to a common draconic species or concept, though I'm not sure how well that would work. I'll need to keep my eye out for the next pointy eared chuuba though, maybe they'll actually deliver and give us some good eating. Pic very much related.
>(unless the humans in both cases happen to also have elven genes)
How would that work? Something similar to that theory about how humans mating pressed the Neanderthals out of existence?

>>33076176
>>33075937
Pure blood elves might be balanced in table top but they're pretty overpowered in real life rules. They live for centuries, always look young regardless of age, immunity to human diseases, and they have natural magic ability. Also in fantasy half elves are always looked down for the mudblood mutts that they are. They're elves but they only have half the power and lifespan that elves have.

>>33077535
Personally I'm kind of ambivalent when it comes to adding standard fantasy races into this setting, since more often than not I feel they were thrown in for no reasons apart from filling a checklist or something. If we have to add elves or other fantasy beings, I feel it would be better if we work out how they actually work compared with baseline humans, so that they don't end up being humans with funny bits on them.
>half-elf parentage
If we assume elven phenotype is controlled by a single gene and is only expressed in boolean ways (either you have it, or you don't), then a half-elf having elven phenotype means that if elves really interbreed with humans, it would be humans that get bred out (all human-elf offsprings will look elf-like, while ~1/4 of half-elf offsprings will look human-like). In this case, offspring between an elf and a half-elf would have ~50% chance of looking like human.

>>33077688
I mean, it depends a lot on how the elves are designed, since not all elves in all fantasy works share the same traits (then again, a lot of them just copy off the popular perception of Tolkien's work, or copy off said copies). I think that actually illustrates my point of making sure we know what kind of elf are we using before porting them into our setting.

They are about to find me out but I got all the evidence I need to destroy alice and panon. I am so happy. Vegeance for Retro and Megas!

>>33077871
Normally I'm a fan of Elves with fae ancestry but are genetically similar enough to humans to cross-breed. Then again that would also imply fairies and human have a genetic ancestor at some point. Which there's heavy vocal opposition against. We can use the chimera DNA argument with demihumans like Risuners for Elves. Or Elves are just another hominid related to humans but aren't human.

>>33078213
I don't mind them being able to interbreed with humans (it's a fairly common trope after all), but rather I want to know what said fae ancestry brings to the table before adding them in. Like, in the case of Risuners and Palkyries, we know their animal bits give them special traits that shape their culture in some ways (to say nothing about the entirely non-human Rosebuds), so if we are to introduce elves into the setting, the least we can do is to work out details like that to make them stand out.

>>33072732
Both are repped, bud.

>>33078418
I suppose it depends on the elf tribe or ethnicity. You have high elves, wood elves, and dark elves as the three common types of elves. Elf types would be like ethnicities in humans. As for culture it depends on where they live. An elf tribe who lives in the snowy mountains would be genetically different than elves that live in the jungle. They're not different because of their diets. They're also different due to mating selection for surviveability. Snowy mountain elves love big booba because booba is fat. Jungle elves love pettanko because less weight and less fat to swing in trees and cool off better. Just giving examples.

>>33078585
I'm talking about feesh.

>>33078838
But won't the same also be equally applicable to humans? If anything, a shorter reproductive cycle would logically make them adapt to a new environment sooner than elves (if we assume the archetype of them living longer and reproducing later than humans), unless the elves in question somehow have a more active epigenetics that allow for quicker adaptation in fewer generations.

>>33078891
Feesh is part of LazuLightmy brother. We can get on actual sirens at some point, that I promise. Too good to pass

>>33077871
>>33077871
Would that 50% nessecarily mean that elfs would outbreed humans if the amount of half elfs was greater than the amount of elves? Ignoring most other fantasy tropes about elves, I think the "they've got a far slower reproduction cycle than humanity" thing could mean that the pregnancy and birthing rest period are vastly unequal. Pureblooded Elves themselves might not fuck around nearly as much as humans do but half elfs might be the exception. I could reasonably see a scenario where half elves begin to grow in greater population due to human breeding and the pure elf population begins to diminish due to elf + half elf crossbreeding, though I think the one thing is that the half elf population would still be very large and grow at a faster rate than humans and pure elfs.
I guess they do outbreed humans if you consider half elfs to be elves, though that's also assuming that half elfs would reproduce at the same rate that normal humans do. I think there's a chance.

>>33079010
It does apply to humans, even in reality. As for elves having longer life spans I suppose one advantage is if you live longer then you can have more children throughout your life. Though the trade off is longer childhoods.

>>33079241
This implies if half-elves can breed at all. Like Marcille in Dungeon Meshi.

>>33079157
Oh snap! I didn't realize by the names. Which Lazulight kingdom is it? I just read economy for crops.

>>33079241
No, but it means you can't really breed elven phenotype out of existence, since you only need 1 elven allele to reproduce the elven traits on the offspring's appearance. As such, if we assume there is enough elven blood in the beginning, intensive interbreeding will end up having human traits be bred out in terms of phenotype - some will still be born with human traits, but they would be rare among the now-predominantly half-elf population that still looks rather elf-like, if the half-elf vtubers we have is of any indication.

>>33079258
Yes, but unless elven offspring have more (meaningful while non-lethal) mutations than human ones (thus allowing for more phenotype to apply selective pressure to), having more won't necessarily speed up the adaptation process.

>>33079405
Syrenia

if squirrels and elves fucked what would the babies be?

>>33080981
Depends on how their genetics work - it can have elven and/or squirrel traits or some combination of them.

>>33081069
is there a way of knowing which genes are superior/dominant? And if there is then is there a way to improve genes?

>>33083179
Well, seeing that they're both fictional, it's entirely dependent on which one you prefer. In Layman's terms, if we assume the Risuner and elf trait shares the same gene (possible, but doesn't have to be the case) and it works on an either-or basis (either you have that trait or you don't), then how the offspring between a pureblood Risuner and a pureblood elf look will show which one is dominant. It should be noted that this is not necessarily how it works, as while some human traits (like whether you can roll your tongue and such) work that way, there are also human traits that don't (like skin colour - the offspring between a white person and a black one won't be either black or white). In fact, it's entirely possible that a mixed Elf-Risuner would have both elven and Risuner traits. It should also be noted that dominance in gene doesn't really mean it's "superior" so to speak.

We need more demi-human races. I think shrimp chumbuddies come close. Not sure how they reproduce though.

>>33073384
This just makes me wonder what's the tallest mountain in the entire world. It would probably be in /rrat/, wouldn't it?

>>33088179
Either in /rrat/ or in the /uoh/ plateau. Those are probably comparable to the Himalayas, maybe larger, and might have peaks higher than the IRL Everest. Mont Mori's peak is about 7000 m high, which makes the island pretty violent, topologically speaking. But that's the kind of crap a hot spot can do.

>>33088179
Hard to tell given the somewhat odd heightmap we have, but if I have to guess, it might actually be in /tsun/ given the sizeable tropical icecap its mountains have. I think the general height comparison would probably be
>/tsun/>/uoh/>/rrat/>/kfp/>=/haha/

>>33085496
I honestly dont know alot about the chumbuds ir their biology, did they anchor any of it?

Morning
Or Afternoon

Where is everyone?

>>33092665
I have an oven to scrub and a Nintendo Direct to catch tomorrow. Its 2 AM here.

>>33092665
Burgers are asleep pls undastando

>>33092889
Is that oven still functional?

>>33093215
Its from the old house. We'll have to take it apart, de-rust, and re-paint but it works. No rust in the oven. Stove top is a bit scratched but useable (glass top oven). Might find a deal via labor day sale though. Depends on how much work we have to do. The oven we used is fried. Power line melted into the case. I do have a new appreciation for electric skillets.

As for worldbuilding on topic you should look into what you have available as cooking appliances. Nothing beats cooking on a campfire. But there should be other things like brick ovens, kettles, copper and cast iron pots and pans, ceramic pots, and other thing. Not too far where I live once a year we have a barbecue where they toss barbecue marinated brisket into burlap sacks and bury it under hot coals. Its the best brisket I ever had.

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Gm!!!!! Another day another slay!!!!!!

>>33085496
Imagine!!! Chumbud Risuner hybrids!!!

>>33097459
Who are you anon???????? This is not me!!!!!!!

>>33097534
smells like squirrel...

>>33091619
Morning, nanora!

No more bumps!
SLAP!

>>33093625
We would able to deep fry food using vegetable oil and enough heat right?

>>33099912
I have an alternative!
Look up ghee.

>>33099953
Are you suggesting that we ditch vegetable oil derived from the holy bread fruit and begin frying our delicious food in pure clarified butter?
You're a goddamn genius

>>33100096
Hey it works for the Indians. Plus their cooking tastes great!
Other oils they used are mustard oil and coconut oil.
But ghee is their most preferred option.

>>33100166
Hmm, I really do need to begin writing down the lore for restraunt chains across international borders. There are too many resources with too many calories that aren't being served to the patrons of this architect blessed world. I am somewhat curious as to what the most calorie inducing/best meal is for other nations.

Mountain SPEAKTH

>>33100858
Praise be

>33100858
The dick riding is crazy

>>33100342
I think peanut oil has the highest calorie

>>33101078
yeah apparently Ghee is much lower in pure calorie content than most pressed plant oils.
https://www.webmd.com/diet/ghee-good-for-you

Attention! Kino Rosebuta lore is coming soon to a thread near you. A new sheriff is in town, by the name of Mr. Z and he is working diligently on Sunwalkers and developing them under the watchful eye of Roseanon. Kino stories, Kino lore, Kino culture, and above all more depth added to your beloved plant friends. I take it with great honor this task and I promise you all that I will keep you updated and that the /rose/ of the past is no more, and that from it, a new /rose/ has is born; one which will be the best damn nation we can make it to be in terms of worldbuilding!

>>33102172
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>33102172
Rose just got even more based. I kneel to both of you and can't wait to see what comes.

>>33097683
I LOVE THE SMELL OF SQUIRREL
>even the captcha agrees

>>33102920
which of course i forgot to post because im a fucking derp

Good morning to all of you. I hope the day finds you well and plenty motivated to write heaps of lore.

https://rentry.org/the-owl#v
I wrote another chapter! It’s kinda short compared with the others tho

>>33076176
>>33075937
>>33077535
>>33079543

You could argue that the elven traits passed onto Flare, Aki and Wamy are kind of superficial. They have pointy ears, and in the case of flare red eyes and darker skin, but apart from that you could argue that they have largely human features. They don't have the Elven face type and they don't live like traditional elves.

I present to you; THE SCAR OF WORLDS

"During the Last Days of the Antediluvian Hyperwar, the Custodians have unanimously agreed to deploy their most arcane artifact to Contain the Vitubian threat against /jp/. To forcibly remove the tumor off the realm, they implanted the Scar of Worlds into the ground and dragged it across the entire planet. Throughout the final skirmishes, one could see a huge blade the size of a continent being dragged by the Custodians for kilometers, leaving not a trace behind."

i just realized its been nearly a week since i actually did something productive and posted holy shit.

>>33104642
Kinda want elaboration on this nanora, is very interesting

>>33106226
OG, it really is baffling that you haven't written a cent of Risuner smut yet nanora. What gives?

Worldbuilder VTubing General.

>>33107484
i just dont know how. desu im pretty vanilla so wouldnt really be able to come up with any spicy shit.

>>33107612
>someone becomes a vtuber just so they can design their own chuubanite and have their own nation and the ideal self-insert

>>33106397
The big artifact jannies use to split /jp/ into /jp/ and /vt/!

>>33107725
Thats bullshit nanora! You kept bringing up your cousin.

>>33109264
eh. incest is just vanilla except the person your fucking is family.

>>33109919
I mean, nothing Lunaito wrote was all that spicy, just some gay smut, and it was still really good!

>>33107725
>im pretty vanilla
you literally spent several weeks talking about how good incest was and how you wanted rosebro to blow your back out while you fucked your cousin nanora, you're not very vanilla in my opinion
I do agree with you about not knowing much about how to go about it, out of all literary genres, smut and erotica are the least respected on nearly all levels of academia despite sexual themes and innuendo being present in practically all forms of media. I think because of that lack of analysis on actual smut, there's far more crappy smut than there is good smut, but that also makes me respect good smut writers like rosebro way more, nanora. In terms of resources I used the 1d4chan page on smut writing as a basic guide line though I'm 90% sure it's totally gone now along with alot of the pastebins they used to save the stories, I did save the writings from my favorite author in a google doc tho.

A schizo shaman argues with a schizo troll

>>33110376
>>33109264
Wait what?

>>33111470
What? Never seen two lunaitos in the same place before nanora?

>>33111994
We have another?!

>>33108166
> literally self-insert
I would kneel

>>33112323
Why haven't Pippers or Kiki took notice yet?

>>33112369
Too much autism even for them, please andastand
to quote someone who said this in the thread long ago: if a vtuber found out this project live i would kill myself

>>33112639
Reimu…

>>33112057
Always did, nanora!

The oven light exploded on me. That was fun. No injury. Anyway back to crop research. Since Syrenia is feesh I'm wondering if I should change the region from deciduous forest into something else. It depends on what panon wants.

>>33112639
But what's funny is that /here/s are considered deities in-universe!
Surely you wouldn't pass up an opportunity like this

>>33113302
Be careful with your oven maintenance or we'll have to start calling you toast dog, nanora.

>>33103489
Uh oh, there it is, the tonal shift. If my experience with horror movies serves, splitting up into two groups is always the right move, and always ends well! They should definitely do that!
Fun read as always, thanks anon.

>>33110376
>good smut writers like rosebro
That makes me so happy I could kiss you, Lunaito. Thank you for the compliment.

>>33115420
Naaaa! No problem, fellow pink bro.
In my opinion, every nation should be writing smut! A nation's erotica can say what a thousand lore posts cannot! Risuners even have a basic set up that lets them have a reason to have sex with most of the known world nanora!
Smut is paramount to lore creation, mastery of the art of smut is mastery over the will of the world!

>>33110376
>>33115420
What about me

>>33117235
Your expertise goes without saying. I am waiting with bated breath for your companion piece to mine as well.

Back! Expanded some more on our adventurers!
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-adventurer-tt

>>33118409
Welcome back! Great work; how did you come up with the names for your characters? Some are as perfectly unpronounceable as all fantasy names should be.

>>33118611
Well, aside your usual name list websites, wiktionary is a good help too when making names.
Finding the root meaning of something to get a cohesive name.

Our savior spoke.

>>33117981
>>33117235
Could you actually use your discord.

>>33118409
Better than what Alice writes. Reminder that she is driving mountain out of the server and is sick like a little baby because her plan backfired HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAH

>>33120427
Mountain the lord. Save us from Alice the whore. She is dying thanks to him!

Ignore Skittles. Stroke cocks.

https://youtu.be/aeerE5Hyn28

https://rentry.org/57v7g
>>33067498
nasa haha lore.

>>33120371

>>33123706
the fuk?

>>33123706
Ey yo don't expose me like this

>>33123706
I think it leaves too much to the imagination.

>>33117235
You're kind of an exact representation of what people think of when they imagine a kindred so in kindred terms I suppose you are vanilla nanora. Still wondering what the international kindred smut writings would be like aside from the preg cult, I can't really think of many culturally compatible nations that aren't nijis nora...
Maybe an adventurer kindred that is dedicated to only giving birth to the strongest warrior? I'd read the hell out of that actually.
>>33123821
Also never go back to that place until it is named Funky Faggot Fruitcake Land and is immediately deleted afterwards so that nobody can ever go back to it, nanora.

>>33124772
I feel like if Lunaito joined that place, the horniness would ramp up even higher than normal. Because of shotacons like me.

>>33124772
>You're kind of an exact representation of what people think of when they imagine a kindred
Anon, who do you think is the one responsible for establishing Kindred as the pregnancy kink fanbase? I’m the original pregposter. The very first /nijiEN/ pregnancy kink Kindred.

>>33125593
Kindred-sama that's a big claim to make nanora

>>33129027
I wouldn’t make it if it weren’t true. Comfy, Kindred 2, and Rosebud can both vouch for me; they witnessed it all in live time.

>>33129115
It’s true, my wife is the genesis of all pregposting. I was there when she first began, I flirted with her quite a bit back then as I do now. I’m eternally grateful for it as well.

>>33129115
I'll take your word for it nanora, you exude...strange magicks.

>>33129027
I am the other kindred, and I can confirm this as true! I remember when I first saw your posts, realized something about myself, and then decided to join in!

Fuck squirrels everyday

I need something other than food to reaearch later. What about sports?

>>33133555
Ancient Aztec Death Sport inspiration for /meat/?
Ultimate Female Sumo Bouts for /ag/?

Alright I'm back, what've I missed?

>>33133687
not much really, we've been tearing it up at divegrass tho

>>33133687
Sammie is that you!?

alright, in lieu of a document, all i can say for /meat/ is to kinda keep doing what you're doing here for etymology
>>33018329
>>33018627
>>33021148
though, for one the grammar will probably be simplified: no irregular anything, that usually dies out in creolization, especially considering a pidgin of two languages.
two, svo word order would probably evolve from the languages, that's just how creoles tend to work. even stemming from sub and superstrata without that word order, the "baby talk" theory is at least probably right in this aspect. maybe simple things such as reflexive declensions or "no double negatives" rules don't exist, because the human mind usually doesn't consider two negatives an affirmative, in this case probably considers two negatives an emphasis, like japanese and their litotes.
third, consider how kids speak when they first learn a language, then becoming a fully grammatical structure. think of it like this: if the complex structure of a language wasn't grasped initially by a child, who is to tell that child not to speak that new language the way they do, when the language doesn't really even exist yet? the result is creole logic. keep in mind i'm only saying this for complex grammar, simpler things like possessives and affixes will still mostly exist (though they might too be simplified)
fourth, substrates, which in this case i believe to be nahuatl, will probably survive to become the sound of the language, but honestly you can do whatever the fuck founder was doing. who knows, maybe mix phonology and approximate sounds to nahuatl to create sounds articulated in similar places of the mouth, because having to switch between an old norse word and 'tl' from nahuatl would probably result in some gagging.

>>33134011
Yes. I finally got back into the groove of things, don't think I forgot about this place and I got stories to tell.

>>33134214
I need to remember to give /uuu/ a delivery of chocomint ice cream sammies.

>>33133687
Welcome back! I've missed you guys...

>>33134180
Nahuatl should be the superstrate instead as per >>32988233

>>33140891
yeah sorry i didn't actually bother to check because it doesn't change that much, just do the same as i said but reversed

TIL Russia had some of the largest wooden ships during pre-modern age, which was called belyana and was used to send a load of wood down the Volga river

>>33143650
My god it's like a moving village...
What masterful architectural indulgence.

Morning, fellas.
>>33134180
Oh. PG! I missed you!

>>33133687
HOLY SHIT SAPLING I FUCKING MISSED YOU WELCOME BACK YOU BEAUTIFUL FUCK! I LOVE YOU

>>33134180
PG survived the surgery!
>>33133687
And sapling is back! What a good day.

>>33145925
>>33146209
what? no. i'm conlanganon

>>33146723
Oh... Ironic that the creator of languages and alphabets is a lowercasefag kek.

>>33146723
Sorry about that. I assumed it's him from the writing.

>>33146907
>>33146811
nah you're ok! i know the walking oxymoron of being a language autist but having an aversion to the shift key, i'm just really lazy when it comes to anything not my in my docs, i don't proofread either.
but since meathead is here, what do you think about the actual contents of my post, since it's directed to you (if you aren't formulating a response while i type this)?

>>33147926
>>33134180
Alright,
1. Simple grammar
>no irregular anything
>no double negatives
Understood. I assume things like 'passive and active' sentences and 'past perfect continuous' are also not necessary anymore?
2. Childlike development
>consider how kids speak
>though they might too be simplified
I see. In order to write I have to imagine myself learning a language for the first time.
3. Pronunciation
>become the sound of the language
>honestly you can do whatever the fuck founder was doing
>because having to switch between an old norse word and 'tl' from nahuatl would probably result in some gagging
Noted. Watch out for conflicting phonology.

I fucking missed you sapling

>>33148773
Behave

>>33143846
The craziest part of it is that belyana were disposable ships; people used to build hundreds of them every year and dismantle them once they reach downstream until railroad made the transport cheaper and presumably faster.

>>33147926
Sounds good to me, personally I'm fully in favour of ironing out the orthography anyway. mfw speaking a language that doesn't have any inflexion and barely any grammar beyond word order

>>33148999
boi. you know how long ive waited for saplings to come back. I fucking love saplings so much I actually started watching fauna regularly now. Hell im watching her right now.

>>33148302
bingo, you can make things like perfect past continuous optional or use simpler terms than previous in either language. you also get it on the next to points, so nothing to add there.
>>33149643
yeah, i was assuming the bulk of the grammar was predetermined, and then simplified from old norse. just using simplified derivatives of whatever category the inflection was for would probably work, maybe it was relating to a number, you can just say "two x" instead of inflections, like in english, a very very weakly inflected language. or maybe keep the more common ones that a kid could grasp, creoles are weird and you have some leeway to just make shit up as you go, god knows i've done it before

>>33149997
Damn bro, same. I'm watching her and writing out that new narrative I've been promising for a while.

Saplings have a tracking game for sport right? Where saplings have to use forest sense to track and catch other saplings.

Also what sports do Risuners have. For some reason I think of something called "nutball".

>>33133687
Ah, my plant friend. I have missed you dearly. It is wonderful to see you return.

>>33133687
Oh, hey, you're back! I remember wanting to ask a Sapling what they think might change about their customs in the Era After (aka post-apocalyptic AU set hundreds of years in the future with low tech level). I'm stuck on what to write next, so I might unshelve that /uuu/ overview.

Here's what I got so far, as a timeline from the start of the point of divergence until the AU's present:
>Mommy Fauna disappears, nowhere to be found to this day
>All the world's chuubanite stops working, meaning no human or otherwise can transform into a Sapling anymore
>Great hordes of schizos begin invading the entire northwest Holocontinent
>Some Saplings that live in the outer forest area, more mature ones especially, retreat inwards and essentially turn the forest into a fortress, while others decide to try to tough it out outside the deeper forest
>Saplings inside the inner forest essentially turn it into a fortress, making sure no schizos get in. This is at the cost of not being able to control the outer sections of /uuu/ territory
>Humans and schizos migrate and start living in the outer forest area alongside Saplings that didn't wish to or were unable to enter the forest area
>Race war infrequently breaks out now in the outer forests
>Saplings weep every night for their mother to come back
That's the general outline of it. I dunno how to make much more than that though beyond "Saplings do everything the same except now they're in a smaller area and also they're very sad."

I know it's a lot to dump on someone just coming back, but I did wanna ask before I forget about it myself.

>>33154849
I just realized I wrote "Saplings essentially turn the forest into a fortress" literally twice in a row. Whoops.

>>33154849
Well in the timeline we currently have, Fauna doesn't have a physical presence already.
>It would look more like the "Forest Sense" that saplings possess would suddenly and inexplicably become silent.
>Second is good, it would make it even better if the developed Saplings that already exist also begin to rot away or become more feral because they require chuubanite to sustain their intellect and life-energy.
>Okay
>For 4 and 5, this cataclysm could have forced the tribes to unite fortifying the Elder Trees and turning the outer forest area into a perpetual defensive front that use the forest cover to rely heavily on ambush tactics
>This is okay
>This is okay
>Saplings weep in deafening silence as they hold out faith the Forest will return to them again someday.

>>33156118
Oh yeah Era After anon means that the Fauna in the Heavenly Realm dies/disappears (or the connection between the physical and heavenly realm is severed, either would work).

>>33156118
Sapling friend. Since you are here once again I have been waiting literal months for one of you to come back so now I feel motivated like crazy to ask of you something. Would you like to be the centerpiece and star of my story? I was going to have risuners re visit /uuu/ and bring a lot of things to help you guys. Magical forest people unite baby!

>>33158344
Hello from fellow forest dwellers!

Bump

>>33067498
Liora tried ASMR, life is good
https://rentry.org/the-owl#vi
So I wrote another chapter! Things are now starting to fall into places…
Also brownie points for anyone who knows where her songs are from (even if it’s filtered through 2 translations)
It’s not really important and is more like an Easter egg, but it still gives some additional insight into what’s going on

Gm!!!!! Another day another slay!!!!!!!

10

Gentlemen?

>>33158344
We don't want this. Sorry. We want to work with hoomen more.

gm

>>33158344
nope

>>33166563
Morning, nanora!

Anyway now I feel super motivated to finish all my shit. Then back to stories.

Bump

That elf discussion was great yet I still desire more...I remember someone mentioned creating a sort of compendium of different wildlife creatures, that would probably be a good start if anything else.

>>33168261
Preferably we should probably wait for nations that have elves or half-elves to have reps before doing it but I guess we can start doing it first and accommodate any changes the reps for those nations want to make later.

>>33168315
kek

REVIVE!

Rosemaiden, are you out there?

Time for some ANTEDILUVIAN LORE

>>33170792
what do you have in mind?

>>33170928
Trying to potentially redo the time conversion right now. From using the old calculation done in late April to one that is based on the current date.
>>/vt/thread/S22935161#p22997058

if you have any notable events on the board in mind feel free to post the archive link.

>>33158344
I'm down for it. It's gonna involve gems isn't it?

>>33171005
Setting >>/vt/thread/S16710105 as the year 1100

This is done to avoid the "speed of plot" era that has been in effect for the existence of the thread from messing up the calculations.

>Doing this gives us a 1 = 3.08 relation between real world days and Vitubia years
Using this, we can calculate the dates of several events.

################################

>First /hlg/ in /JP/
1086 BVTE

>/hlgg/ - /hlg/ Split
434 BVTE

>HoloMYTH Debut
424 BVTE

------------------------------------------------------
>/jp/ - /vt/ Split
0 VTE
------------------------------------------------------

>First /hlgg/ in /vt/
13 VTE

>HONK opens the NASFAQ
56 VTE

>The Serene Republic of Nasfaqg Forms
206 VTE

>Lazulight Forms
327 VTE

>Coco Graduation
472 VTE

>HoloCOUNCIL Debut
632 VTE

################################

Everything that happened after 20-1-2022 falls under the "speed of plot" era and it's date cannot be accurately determined

>>33171782
Why of course! It involves a story of our second return. We want your pretty gems but we also want to TEACH YOU how to use them for the magics. The main goal is a magic exchange so we can have living tree monsters and you can have gem powers. Pic related

>>33172723
Magic really is everything

>>33172877
MAGIC CHADS UNITE!

>>33170555
yes!

>>33173714
can you join the discord? we sort of need you for some discussion on /rose/. https://discord.gg/9mtwYbtt

>>33173923
yeah, sure. would be nice to not feel isolated kek.

>>33173923
Why not do it here?

well i guess i got real shit to do once home.

>>33174015
Because on group projects, it's easier this way.

>>33174015
Because a certain schizo troll that keeps hijacking the thread

be back in 5-6 hours with lore shit you lads. later fuckers

>>33172385
>>>/vt/thread/S22935161#p22997058
Wouldn't it be better to set the date of >>/vt/thread/S22935161#p22997058 as 1120 as your anchor date, since that's when the speed of plot was put in place? I think your approach is good though.

I got some updatea planned for today but I'm doing paperwork right now.
Marking student papers made me lose faith in humanity.

>>33175323
The problem is that events and stories have happened between the setting of that date which are on some level reliant on them not being that far away from the *modern* time

>>33175667
Do you mean events before or after 1120 VTE? Any examples?

>>33175749
Events before >>/vt/thread/S22935161#p22997058
namely, Rushia
which would have happened ~159 years before the *modern* day if the starting date was 22-04-2022

This is mostly my own bias since 2 of my stories rely on the even not happening much more than a decade or two before the *modern* day.

Also, the birth of the thread feels like a far more "proper" start date.

We need some sort of tool that instantly translates given dates into Vitubia years

>>33176029
I think for those specific events, it would be fine to place those events where they fit best on the timeline, without needing to stick to a rigid conversion. The order is more important than the actual dates. The issue with your set of date is that 20-30 years old is a bit too young for /vtwbg/, I think. Here is my suggestion; let's come up with a list of ordered events, as many as possible.
Then, let's assign them a date based on a rigid conversion.
And then, let's look at all the events and push their date back and forth depending on where they would fit best based on the existing lore.
This would give us the best freedom for making a timeline that makes sense, I think. And since moving forward we are using speed of plot, dates that use a logic placement instead of a rigid conversion will be the norm anyway.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18-HH-xmC_qxOS3ZV0Ssxzb1mDA0xVKv31yMDLWo_pEo/edit?usp=sharing
I'm gonna start working on it. This sheet will let us add events and automatically sort and adjust their date. Feel free to comment on the sheet for suggestions of events to add, preferably with a corresponding post ID.

>>33176475
Im just using https://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html and simple maths

A dedicated tool would definitely be useful though

>>33177607
Bless you anon. I think I just searched for /hlg/ in the subject when I made that first date conversion, explaining the discrepancy. I'll add those in and see how things look.

>>33176660
/vtwbg/ founding: >>/vt/thread/S16710105

Rushia Graduation: 2022/02/24, many sources but i dont actually remember the timeline anymore

>>33177607
>>33177837
Alright, thanks. Here is a first draft.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18-HH-xmC_qxOS3ZV0Ssxzb1mDA0xVKv31yMDLWo_pEo/edit?usp=sharing
Thoughts?

https://rentry.org/vtwbg-adventurer-tt
Update: Polish and a logo!

>>33178932
Very nice, I like the KFP's backstory and setup. Good work. Cool logo too! I wanna do of those for another group now...

>>33175471
>marking student papers
Meat bro is a teacher nanora?

>>33180078
My mother is. I am giving her a hand.
Forget about not answering questions, some of these students did not even fill out the name field!

Okay, the sheet now has automated sorting, and a few good suggestions have come in. Let me know if you have any more additions, or suggestions for adjustments to the converted date. We could also add /vtwbg/-only events to this if desired.
Should I anchor it?

>>33180512
Good idea, should make a new anchor post for it too

>>33180512
I would much like you to include the counting method proposed at >>33172385

>>33180334
Yup yup, nora. Lack of passion is the great killer of our youth's intellect!

>>33180979
Can you elaborate? It's the same method, just a linear interpolation.

>>33181048
One where vtwbg founding is considered the starting date

>>33181048
>>33181090 (me)
I mean the date that is used for counting, instead of the speed of plot vote

>>33181090
>>33181138
Oh, well you can consider 886 VTE to be the starting date then. The speed of plot date is just used to anchor the timeline, it doesn't have any particular meaning.

>>33181226
I mean, where the founding of vtwbg is the anchor date, not the speed of plot vote

>>33181284
If you want. It doesn't change anything, any event can be used to anchor the timeline.
Here, it's done.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18-HH-xmC_qxOS3ZV0Ssxzb1mDA0xVKv31yMDLWo_pEo/edit?usp=sharing

>>33181531
you dense mf
I mean, year 1100 at vtwbg founding

>>33181699
Ah, well that's what the Adjusted Date column is for! We could push it so it's more recent if you want. We should probably discuss how old /vtwbg/ should be though, I feel like 30 years old is a bit too young, one of the /meat/bros had a cool idea for how /vtwbg/ affected world diplomacy that would require a bit more time.

>>33172385
Huh, this would imply that HONK has worked on NASFAQ since around the /hlgg/-/hlg/ split.

>>33182001
Which is hilarious in hindsight.
>It has been 30 years since the interdimensional apocalyptic event
>Society has recovered and prosperity is slowly coming along
>Time to make Wall Street

so what happens if you consume the chuubite?

>>33182510
Depends on the type, the individual and amount. Anything from nothing to instant death to deification.

>>33182569
For the latter you'd also need the sacred texts of the Aspies
https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK

>>33182569
Can you become something more than human?

>>33182940
yes

I added a column for general tags, this way eventually we can sort by date and general to extract a general's history from the timeline.
Feel free to keep the suggestions, feedback and concerns coming.
>>33180621
Alright
>>33067498
Add as anchor for subsequent threads:

/VTWBG/ HISTORY
Anchor post for events in the /vtwbg/ canon timeline.
Reply to this post or commentate directly in the sheet suggestions for events to add to the timeline.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18-HH-xmC_qxOS3ZV0Ssxzb1mDA0xVKv31yMDLWo_pEo/edit?usp=sharing

>>33182940
Yeah, I believe it was discussed previously that Kindred can obtain greater shapeshifting powers if they consume more Chuubanite. I talked about it with one of the other Kindred before and we discussed that the more you shapeshift/the greater your shapeshifting abilities, the unhealthier you get and the harder it is for you to revert back to your original form. Tl;dr it fucks you up.

bump

>>33183442
Tentacles?

>>33183253
Move rushia meltdown date to 1119 VTE

>>33185717
No question about it, they’re canon for Box Tenshi (Vox’s joke-turned-kinda-canon alter ego) so they’re canon for Kindreds looking to replicate Vox’s features too. I like the idea of some of the Holy Kingdom’s clergy seeking to have “biblically accurate” traits through shapeshifting like wings and multiple sets of eyes.

>>33185878
That was a proposal.
When /vtwbg/ was founded how far/devastating was the Rushia yab at the time?
If it was at its climax the starting year can be pushed back.

>>33185878
Not against it, can I just have the reasoning for that placement? Consider >>33186084, lots of events that seemed quick and done probably lasted a few years in Vitubia.

>>33186084
pretty please?

>>33186125
It works better for my story timelines

>>33186125 (Me)
Maybe I should add an optional duration column...

>>33186166
Let's see, that would be for the Edelweiss story, right? We should think about this for a bit actually. Keep in mind the Serene Republic is quite a ways from /rushia/, so economical and political consequences would be delayed a bit. If we say the Graduation "happening" occurred over about something like 10-15 years (with 2.5 VTE years per IRL day, that's a couple days), we could set the Rushia Graduation to 1109-1124 VTE and have your event occur during this period. Would that work?

>>33186997
>A chuuba graduating is 1 week irl
>But a decade in universe
Damn that's enough to make people lose their faith

>>33188573
It is! Works nicely, doesn't it? On average, it takes longer for an person to abandon their god than for an anon to abandon their oshi. This gives enough time to model stuff like the back and forth of schizo raids, variations in the thread politics over that time, represent multiple distinct outbursts in the Heavenly Realm etc.

So when do risuners become a thing at first? We've been there for over 1000 years right? I have an idea for pre kronie timeline.

>>33188954
I recall, was it ri2ner(?), mentioning that because ID gen 1 debut back in /jp/, Risuners were among the older advanced races from before /vt/
but the hyperwar apocalypse reverted Risuners into ooga-booga nuts

>>OP
good thread

>>33193656
Blessed thread. Any Kindred edition is blessed.

>sapling comes back
>art tracing drama comes
>crying saplings and everyone else emerge
I am scared

>>33189644
Yep. Prior to /vt/, all the holo fanbases that already existed probably were under the purview of the /hlg/ empire in its prime.

Anyway. How is worldbuilding going fellow gentlemen?

>>33195946
Good OG, do you have that timeline of yours somewhere? Could add the important events to https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18-HH-xmC_qxOS3ZV0Ssxzb1mDA0xVKv31yMDLWo_pEo/edit?usp=sharing

>>33195946
Here's a preview of my story
https://rentry.org/48qko

>>33196084
1118 VTE Risuners first make contact with /inf/
/inf/ declares /risu/ as a protectorate which we agree to
1119 VTE /risu/ declares independance while allowing /inf/ to be a big trade partner and in exchange for a road system linking both sides. The city of Demeter is established.
1121 VTE The very first Pinisi is constructed. It is immediately sent out to /morig/ in an attempt to make /risu/ a global power
/mep/ makes contact and their treaty is signed.
1122 VTE (early) Contact with morig established and trade route confirmed.
Cahya is selected to stay as ambassador.
1122 VTE (later) Sumargo's expedition to /rose/ is launched
Meatheads teach us how to mine bog iron.
1123 VTE Nasfaqg make contact and establish operations in Sabatangan.
Luknights visit Silvanus and establish an embassy.
Contact with /rose/ established
Morig establishes a lumber depot in Silvanus.
1124 VTE The Retro Reich makes contact in Demeter.
Diana's expedition to /meat/ launches and makes contact
/inf/ complete the road. Ceres is established.
Sumargo returns with /rose/ representatives
K.A.G makes contact at Sabatangan in hopes of a wine making facility. (details still being worked out)
1125 VTE Stories of /uuu/ have reached risuners. Risuners ask for aid of all powers to build a FUCKLOAD OF BOATS
Diana returns from /meat/
1127 VTE The Tri-fleet is complete. Jayawan, Hamdani, and Enoch selected as captains and launch for the 3 northern nations.
Neriah's expedition launched to the Retro Reich and lands.
1128 VTE Tri-fleet land and expeditions begin.
1128 VTE (late) Tri-fleet return to /risu/ and bring the news to Silvanus.
1130. Project NUT announced. Age of fortifucation begins.

Updated with the whole fortification thing.

>>33196154
Hmm, maybe it would make sense to distinguish Major and Minor events. Or perhaps Local and International events.

>>33196127
ooh looking good there sapling. Im trying to finish up basic lore stuff and re organizing a lot of basic risuner lore. Whats in the current rentry is super outdated.

>>33196127
Sapling comes in swinging! Nice start, interested in what this Ursus has to say.

>>33196221
Well ...it's a risuner timeline so I didn't think to bother. All the events are important to risuners but feel free to pick out whatever.

le bump

>>33163745
The bugs come into play! She really played them like a fiddle. Also
>petrichor
Sheesh nice wordage anon. I love this.
Also, I have no idea what the songs are! I'm curious.

Btw anons, I think this story is really passing people by. It's very well written, read it.

Glad panon and alice are gone. They havent posted anything in weeks!

>>33196127
Oooooh, I never thought about how little I knew about saplings before nanora. I'm interested in what you'll do sapbro
>>33195946
Naaaa, I need to take a sleep day nanora! Too much staying up late, brain needs rest for proper worldbuilding nora, even if at the sacrifice of time.
It'd be cool to never need to sleep again tho...

>>33196127
It makes sense that Sapling lore would be told through oral retellings rather than having written documents. I do have a question. Would Saplings have any written records monuments of the past?

>>33205618
No.

>>33205750
Thank you for answering the question. So how old would you say /uuu/'s oldest tale is? Assuming /uuu/ has a way of telling time. Which I think trees are a good way to measure passage of time.

>>33206909
A tale for another time my friend.

>>33207037
Fair enough. Hopefully we'll have ice-cream sammies again soon.

>>33201241
>bugs
It’s important to have a plan B after all, something that’s yet another mistake the convoy made…
>fiddle
It’s probably not what Lofi intended when she made her lore, but I feel that might actually fit her lore skills when used in an insidious way! (although one that might be necessary given the situation)
The Chuubanite rentry hasn’t covered something related to the mind so I don’t know if what she did is actually possible by its own,which is why I added some other details that can be used to justify what happens if it turns out the magic rock can’t actually do that
>petrichor
It’s a neat thing that I found a while ago when looking up something else, which comes in handy when describing what I think I would hear
Also Lofi’s on the telly now so go watch her!

>>33209963
Oh, interesting topic!
So, for a start, psychoactive effects are quite common and have a lot of precedent in chuubanite applications, but for most of those cases, direct ingestion is required.
It's a somewhat controversial application, but in my opinion hypnosis through the use of chuubanite is plausible. Hypnosis only requires specific audio-visual inputs, which chuubanite is able to create. In this instance, lulling people to sleep through the use of a magically-enforced hypnotic resonant frequency seems plausible (The CIA tried shit like that a while back).
Another way would be for the chuubanite to have psychoactive effects, but only when activated in a certain way. For example, the assumption would be that the soldiers have ingested local chuubanite with the food and drink they found. Then, the frequencies created by the songstress resonates with the chuubanite so as to activate it and apply the psychoactive effects to the individuals.
The pure hypnosis method would be a lot more vulnerable to disruption in the focus of the target, to increased caution on the target's part, or to a particular willpower resulting in being more difficult to hypnotize.
The "song-activated psychoactive effect" method would be a lot more reliable and powerful, but requires chuubanite to have been applied to the target somehow.
I'm watching! What a cutie...

>>33211682
Thanks for the feedback! It actually fits the breadcrumb I left in the writing implies so it’s good to know that what she’s pulling matches what’s been decided on either way. It could very well be both in this case for her to get the most optimal result and also gives interesting insight on things she does with the guard in particular
Also glad to hear you’re enjoying our great gamer gaki!

>>33212781
Yeah, both would be good as well! That's somewhat similar to the setup we were brainstorming for the camouflaging Retro Reich chuubanite, where a hypnotic effect worked alongside a physical effect to create an illusion.
I would have agreed with you a few minutes ago, but after seeing that 1v1 run on the hexagons, I think cute gamer gaki is more accurate...

>>33207037
So sapling. I have the basic plans for what the story will be for us. Here it is

>Second time the tri fleet comes over but all 9 boats arrive on your shores
>We bring over one of our witches (first time one would leave the country)
>In exchange for your shamans gifting us magical artifacts/teaching us how to use your magic we would teach you in return the power of gemstones
>Risuners set up permanent outpost on the beach with ports. We would bring as many supplies as possible but might need to rely on some of your trees to chop.
>The witch (who i have yet to name) will be in charge of everything and you can either make a character or I can either it doesnt matter
>Hamdani (assuming you remember her) shows up again as second in command of everything. We do our business with the nearest saplings.
>Long ass trade route between /risu/ and /uuu/ where sapling artifacts are exchanged for whatever the fuck you want honestly.

Pic related. What do you think?
i waited so fucking long to do this im so happy your back :)

>>33214117
>Risuners set up permanent outpost
Hey hey now buddy, that's OUR sphere of influence

>>33214287
Well. Are you going to try and stop us now? Aren't you only interested in lumber and food?

>>33214442
Yeah, bring lumber half a world away. Sounds like logistical hell.
>food
Not.
As it stands, it is simply not quite convenient to us. Of course, I can't negotiate for the saplings, but letting a foreign nation just burst in and interrupt our backyard is a very unnatractive idea.

>>33214698
Were only gonna build enough where some of us will live there. And well this is a thing determined by /risu/ to be priority one. Like no exceptions it must be done. And dont be greedy theres plenty of /uuu/ for everyone especially since sanalites are gone.

>>33214698
>>33214804
NTA, but /risu/ would have tropical spices that would be quite attractive to the colder climates of the council countries.

>>33214804
>Were only gonna build enough where some of us will live there
Oh and some settling too. CLEARLY not a big deal, now it just sounds like an even worse deal.
>especially since sanalites are gone.
I mean, I'll get out of character for a moment, but I did manage to get the sanallites to depend on our postal system for nearly all their trade, you know? That and a pretty good trade deal for each other's products.
>>33215059
Food and spices are different, but I don't think /risu/ has ever done a detailed talk about that, so i won't comment on it.

>>33215194
We can be friends hoomans.....we liked your waterparks. And you can fuck us too. Dont forget risuners are horny.

>>33215470
So? Gotta protect my backyard, you see. Nothing personal.

>>33215609
its not even a backyard, its all the way around it. Do i need to get the map?

>>33215751
Don't worry risuner, the hoomans can't really negotiate deals on /uuu/'s behalf, it's just bants.

If /risu/ is going to set up an outpost then they need to provide an invalueable commodity or resource. And I'm not talking about food. The trip between /risu/ and /who/ is too costly in time, resources, and lives, that its suicide to sail between /who/ and /risu/ regularly.

Now /risu/ can make a deal with /ggg/ to create a drop-off outpost like what /nasa/ did with /who/ to trade with KFP and /morig/. /ggg/ is really the best place to exchange goods between east and west Holocontinent.

>>33216081
>The trip between /risu/ and /who/ is too costly in time, resources, and lives, that its suicide to sail between /who/ and /risu/ regularly.
Indiamen had a steady trading route between the UK and, well, India. I don't think it's suicidal. The goods just need to be sufficiently valuable at destination for the trip to be worth it. Spices and drugs were often that product.

>>33216272
considering the prize is artifacts that risuners believe can save their nation for the rest of time....yeah its worth everything. You all dont realize how important this is.

>>33216272
The UK had a bunch of colonies spread out across the world, and a lot of important ports in those colonies that were not dependent on any foreign parties

>>33216442
Well yeah, obviously they need to have friendly ports along the way to resupply. But it's still a single ship making the trip all the way there.

>>33216590
yes, but with the logistics of the biggest empire in the world, /risu/ is a tribal undeveloped country

>>33216432
>>33216862
Please allow me to introduce myself.
Wanna collab OG? If you can negotiate something with /uuu/, we can facilitate logistics and provide escorts.

>>33217093
Deadbeats too? Now this doesn't sound great at all

>>33216272
Sailing to India also meant sailing around Africa. So there were pleanty of supply drops. Also what >>33216862 said. I'd take baby steps with your logistics and shipbuilding. Heroes in RPGs didn't slay dragons at level 1.

>>33216590
its 9 ships.
>>33217093
I was planning for risuners to go all in on this investment. Meaning we would hire a massive black fleet escort over there as well as possibly some nasfaqg bois. We NEED this to go well since that witch is extremely valuable.

>>33217516
The /risu/-/uuu/ trip is pretty much completely coastal, plenty of spots to resupply as well.

>>33217768
>hire a massive black fleet escort over there
sometimes tells me it isn't going to win any points with /who/

>>33217913
/who/ is irrelevant. Compared to /uuu/, /who/ is basically dogfood compared to a 5 star 3 curse meal fit for kings. Sure we like hoomans but saplings are just far more important to us. No offense hoomans.

>>33217768
Sounds good, let me know when things get moving, I can write a lil' something.
>>33217913
I'm sure there will be no issue, /who/ are our long-standing, beloved unilateral friends.

>>33217768
>>33217913
Yeah, it does make things quite different, almost as if they were there to establish a colony, not that they are, of course... but is is a very large escalation.
>>33218405
Haha. I do find some issue with having a big naval power of dubious purpose and what could potentially be their client state inching so close by.

>>33218542
What if we simply....told you we just wanna trade cool magic shit? Also what if we said your being to greedy and maybe /uuu/ wants a new playmate? hoomans want all that sapling pussy to themselves

>>33218542
Dubious? My dear brother, I am hurt. We only wish for the stable and peaceful transit of goods towards the prosperity of all nations.

>>33218700
If you wanted to simply trade with the saplings, I don't think you'd need a port in their lands for that. You would have to wait for the saplings to answer you there, since, well, I can't speak for them.

>>33218869
it was only an idea. originally i would just have the pinisi literally run aground on the beach. Anyway off to sleep goodnight fuckers. More tomorrow.

>>33214117
Unfortunately, I gotta throw some branches into your plan.
While shamans are more than willing to preach about the will of the forest (teaching how to connect with the magic of the land), the trinkets themselves I recall were more of a gift of gratitude for Hamdani's service rather than a material exchange there won't be any prospering artifact economy developing any time soon.
>And staying true to the lore, Shamans themselves would not be interested in the power of the gems by themselves because they've already dedicated all their devotion to what is already known and has been passed on which is their brand of forest magics.
However, there may be a way to make them recognize that power by first making the common sapling curious about their powers which isn't hard to do, and eventually becoming a more accepted form of magic.
>Permanent ports are okay because we basically do not use the coastline that much except for fishing and satisfying exploration curiosities but there may be a line to draw at the tree cutting except for special guidance and designation by saplings for which trees to cut or we may prove wood from SCUM saplings.
>I can make a character no problem that can act as a leader that interacts with the witch. Though I will have to develop lore surrounding the saplings that live in the Darkling Mire specifically. I had an image in mind for them that reflects when Fauna had her emo/goth phase.
>Sweets are an easy way to a sapling's heart and rucksack.

>>33214698
As saplings, we do not have an interest in actually caring about geopolitical affairs. We just like interacting with curious people and spreading the influence of the Forest. Saplings that share the border with /who/ and beyond are just as happy to see friendly Hoomans as they are Risuners.
Even if /who/ and /risu/ get into influence disputes, we'll just be minding our own business as each tribe is basically autonomous but all saplings share the same traditions and faith.

Threads are so slow. We used to go through two threads a day and this one's been up for two days now.

>>33220951
Yes, isn't it wonderful?

>>33220969
It feels like the universe is out of balance. It's weird

>>33221053
I feel like nature has healed.

>>33221148
I'm still here I guess.

>>33219891
I suppose I could ask how a Sanalite without their spacesuit would fair in /uuu/. But it'd be just like anyone else.

>>33183253

Anyone for some really old events?

First Kizuna AI thread: >>/jp/thread/S16621236

Siro introduced to Kizuna AI thread, beginning its transformation into the Virtual YouTuber thread: >>/jp/thread/S17566931

First time Sora was linked: >>/jp/thread/S17694383#p17719918

First time Nijisanji was linked: >>/jp/thread/S18338600#p18344556

First Nijisanji thread on /jp/: >>/jp/thread/S22971014

(Speaking of which, can anyone here explain why there's a void in VTuber discussion on /jp/ between about January 29 and February 12 2020?)

>>33224066
Oh, great additions, thank you for digging these up! This fills out the ancient history nicely.
Also, no idea, is it possible those threads were getting deleted by the mods around that time?

>>33219891
Imagine risuners face when their super high precious witch rolls up like "saplings I'm here to teach you our sacred magic we hide from the world" only to get a response "kek sorry senpai we already know how to do that shit". Holy fuck poor risuners. Not only that but the whole purpose of them being there and the saplings just tell them that it's not gonna be a common trade item. Fucking kek.

>>33225125
>>33224066
Jannies!

>>33225203
It's not so much that they already know how to do it, it's just more like they're not really that interested. I never heard OG mention that Hamdani showed Gem magic to the Shamans she was in contact with while she was initially there so I don't think Shamans or Druids would show any immediate interest in changing how they've been living from a life of devotion and faith to the forest to a life of mercantilism even if it is mutually beneficial on paper.

>>33225671
Just as a clarification btw, Shamans and Druids do not have any prior understanding of gem magics.

>>33219169
>>33225671
OG, something that might interest the saplings even more than your gem magic is fertilizer that uses your chuubanite. /uuu/ chuubanite probably boosts growth a little bit, but it's probably not as intense as your 3x growth rate increase.

>>33226068
>>33225732
>>33225671
According to the Risuner ethnics entry, the farming risuners and lanky risuners have some form of botany sensing. they could probably be the mediator between risuners and saplings
https://rentry.org/vtwbg_risuspecies

>>33226068
I think /uuu/'s chuubanite just makes the trees huge.

Morning! Oh we just hit bump limit.

>>33226391
Yes, we had a nice thread full of lore. Feels nice.
Baker-san, don't forget to include the new anchor >>33183253