/vr/ - Retro Games

=== ONGOING ===

-100 minutes of /vr/ underway
-Deadline still extended indefinitely(?)

=== NEWS ===

[11-25] Colorful Hell 0.95 available, changing Chaingunners and adding White Cyberdemons
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&p=1080925#p1080925

[11-24] Test version release of 'Doomsday Machine', a Chaos Engine TC for GZDoom
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=62571

[11-21] Man on Wing Commander CIC forums making Blender script to ease ripping sprites from 3D models
https://www.wcnews.com/chatzone/threads/wing-commander-sprite-enhancement-experimentation-and-information.29588/page-3#post-405356

[11-21] Anon map release: Hellevator
https://my.mixtape.moe/jlqesd.wad

[11-21] BloodGDX update 0.795
http://m210.duke4.net/

[11-19] SgtMarkIV releases 'Bolognese', universal gore mod to succeed to Ketchup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW07VJBTjME

[11-17] 'Rednukem' EDuke32 project in now beta
https://forums.duke4.net/topic/10241-rednukem-redneck-rampage-port/

[11-17] Quake Halloween Jam released
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61650

[11-15] A podcast about Quake launches, 'Quakecast'
https://quakecast.podbean.com/

[11-14] New Descent game announced, unimaginatively titled Descent (2019) (it's actually Descent: Underground with a singleplayer mode)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5oiAmKDevI

[11-06] Death Wish updated to 1.5; Original MIDI soundtrack addon released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/death-wish-for-blood

[11-05] Consolation Prize updated, albeit with minimal testing
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=55298&start=105#p1078513

[11-04] Turok 2 Coop Mod version 0.9.5 released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/turok-2-co-op-mod

[10-27] DOOM RPG Remake Project revealed
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/102919-drrp-doom-rpg-remake-project/

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Let's make this thread go slow so we can get a new one on the 10th.

Samsara Monster Addon when, Shadowlink223?

what a muscular being you are, pinkie

No Rest for the Living is amazing. I can't stop replaying it.

>>5186230
Not sure if this has been posted before, but...
https://youtu.be/PvaPkr-3XMs
Nash's Gore mod is returning as Nash's Gore Mod: vengeance edition.

>>5186242
I found it to be boring aesthetically, but better than Doom 2's default levels. Then again, I find most stuff to be better than Doom 2's default levels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC-2JDVplsg
R8 my WIP map

>>5186259
>le doom 2 is bad meme

>>5186261
Is this your first map?

>>5186241
How does cyberdemon look?

>>5186263
>le dislike of le game is only le meme meme.
Fine, I'll give you my case. I didn't like Doom 2 for the following:
>Music not as exciting, as Doom 1 (Healer Stalks, Into Sandy's City are pretty dope, though).
>Game is too brown. I just don't like the way the levels look very much. They're kind of boring to look at.
>Levels don't feel like they flow as smoothly, or are as intuitive.
>MAP 13 Downtown is a good example of things I don't like.

I don't think Doom 2 is a bad game, the new monsters are generally pretty cool, I just think Doom 1 is just generally better.

From best to worst, I would roughly rank the Doom series as:
>Ultimate Doom
>Doom 64
>Doom 2
>Doom 3
>Doom 2016
>Doom RPG
Haven't played DRPG2 yet, but would really like to. Regardless of the rankings, I love all of these games. Given more time to think about, some of these might shift around.

Carnevil is still working on Wrack? Good lord it looks awful.

>>5186280
I've released a couple of things online, though it's rare that I finish stuff, despite playing around with Doom Builder for years (ADD). I even had a map in some ZDoom community project. DUMP 2 or 3 I forgot which one exactly.

Through self improvement, though, I've become more disciplined and have gotten better at finishing things. I've found that I really enjoy lighting my map and creating the atmosphere.

TLDR, no, this is not my first rodeo.

>>5186281

>>5186294
Now that's just silly

>>5186294
Nice lipstick.

>>5186259
It kept the spirit of the vanilla game while managed to improve the visuals. One of the best episodes ever.

>>5186284
>Into Sandy's City are pretty dope
You're absolutely unworthy of listening any kinds of music anon.

>>5186294
>AI did a better job of interpreting the cyberdemon's eyes and than some actual people did

I've got guts of steel

>>5186323
Hey, what can I say, I like what I like.

>>5186263
This. DOOM II did nothing wrong.
>>5186284
>no final doom
still, i can somewhat see why you've chosen that ranking... however, i don't get why people (even itt) liked Doom 3 and Doom 2016 so much when these titles are just smoking garbage that happen to follow trends and have the name "doom" on it just to cash in with.. debatable people. scriptfest, cinematics, piss easy gameplay, ragdolls that don't even last two seconds before disappearing (thus they're not satisfying enough), too much dark environments (pretty much
ubiquitous on D3), you name it. maybe i'm just a huge nostalgic faggot that wants their game to be genuine, challenging and just fun to play.

>>5186263
This. DOOM II did nothing wrong.
>>5186284
>no final doom
still, i can somewhat see why you've chosen that ranking... however, i don't get why people (even itt) liked Doom 3 and Doom 2016 so much when these titles are just smoking garbage that happen to follow trends and have the name "doom" on it just to cash in with.. debatable people. scriptfest, cinematics, piss easy gameplay, ragdolls that don't even last two seconds before disappearing (thus they're not satisfying enough), too much dark environments (pretty much ubiquitous in D3), you name it. maybe i'm just a huge nostalgic faggot that wants their game to be genuine, challenging and just fun to play.

>>5186272
yes because doom code is 100% relevant when talking about quake
idiot

>>5186242
No Rest for the Living is p mediocre desu.

>>5186382
well shit who do I believe now?

Anyone have a download for the Doom registered wad? Not Ultimate Doom.

>>5186379
>>no final doom
Ah! Been meaning to get around to that as well.

>i don't get why people (even itt) liked Doom 3
I guess I got into Doom when I was pretty young. Around 2007 in 7th or 8th grade. Something like that. The first time I played Doom was on the Xbox 360 arcade, and I was instantly hooked... The speed, the music, the atmosphere. Those were the days when E2M4 (Deimos Lab) and E2M6 (Halls of the Damned) gave me the chills. I wanted more, and when I saw screenshots of Doom 3, they looked amazing. However, being just a wee lad, I wasn't allowed to play it, so it became the forbidden fruit. I was somewhat technically adept,even at that age, and my parents knew how much I loved modding games.

I convinced them that if they bought it for me, I would do my best to mod out all of the blood and gore, and they agreed. And, with some help from my brother, we did just that, and I loved the game. I finally had the forbidden fruit. I loved the sp00ky nature of the game and the new demons. I guess it was the adventure of getting the game that really made me like it a lot. I even played around in GTK radiant, and it was a blast for me to see how amazing the levels looked, even though I kind of sucked at it.

Up till that point, most of the map editing I had done was with Star Craft, and Call of Duty 2 Radiant. While those were cool, and CoD 2 looked good, I was just blown away by how cool I could make my (really bad) Doom 3 "maps" look. I loved tinkering with the interactive displays and stuff.

So that's the story of why I like D3 so much.

Doom 2016 was a lot of fun when it came out, but it hasn't captivated me the way other games in the series have. I think if it had a REAL map editor, not just SnapCrap, perhaps I would be hooked on it just as much. But alas it doesn't, and as I near the end of college today, it doesn't have the allure of being the forbidden fruit. Still, I enjoyed it. Shame all of the DLC was MP.

>>5186397
doomgod()com /wads /iwads

>>5186212
>yamagi still has soundtrack problems
what problems? I never noticed any problems
unless you think the "music stops when you finish the final objective in the map" is a big, which is actually a bug in every port that doesn't do that - finishing the final objective sets the current track number to 0, which is supposed to be silence, but a lot of ports don't respect that

>>5186379
nah, just a regular bitchy faggot.

>>5186397
http://doom4ever.free.fr/download_wads.htm

>Eternal's Marauder will turn out to be pic related

>>5186417
I've seen that HUD many times but don't know what it's from.

what's the best source port for quake 1 coop? i've been using FTE but is there something better, preferably with mod support?

>>5186294
It's so odd that, in one of the biggest and most active retro modding communities, there hasn't been a full hand-made HD sprite pack. People just keep making these terrible machine upscales.

>>5186441
There's been multiple attempts. They all look awful or questionable, don't really represent the game's artwork well because no one can do Id like Id, and often enough any criticism tends to send such projects hurtling off the rails into oblivion.

>>5186409
It's blank.

PEROSHAY BIBOX MALAX

>>5186294
Not terrible to be desu. Face is a little silly, but honestly, in the heat of combat, I doubt you would notice it that much.

>>5186401
then you should complain about GZDOOM and some modern stuff too with this bait...

>>5186412
Not that, maybe its on my run, but yamagi never recognize ogg or mp3 soundtrack files if its on music folder or baseq2/music.
while with other stuff like KMQ, Q2Pro, Q2E and such i never had it.

In fact, i kinda want to ask the pasta and MEGA OP about giving the link for Q2E to add on the MEGA, the textures and stuff still works on other source ports, and what i have it here is the final version before they quit.

>>5186441
>there hasn't been a full hand-made HD sprite pack
You say that as if we need one.

>>5186263
Doom 2 is just flawed, not bad.

>>5186323
That track slaps, fuck you.

>>5186419
Boom

Here's your bi-yearly reminder that Dark Forces is a better game than Doom, and that we will never get a source port so it doesn't matter that it's better.

>>5186521
>maybe its on my run, but yamagi never recognize ogg or mp3 soundtrack files if its on music folder or baseq2/music.
works on my machine™

>>5186527
not him, but i rather wait for ETERNAL's take on all of classic texures, most of the deviantart shit that we see looks like something out of a RPG board map.

atleast the dudes at >>5186230 wing commander project is doing 1:1 replicas for it.

>>5186553
grow a spine and use DARKXL, it still works.

>>5186561
Some of the Eternal looks are still their own thing outside the bottles, but yeah.

>>5186230
>-Deadline still extended indefinitely
Yeah, pretty much. Just feeling it out. We've had submissions consistently trickling out slowly.

>>5186553
>star wars
hard pass

>>5186561
>darkXL
it begs me to wonder if someone could reach lucius in real life and ask him to give the code to the community, JEDI is pretty much Build.

plus JEDI engine was mostly cracked by the Outlaws dudes, and someone probably still has the MAC source code for it.

>>5186441
The AI one did remarkably well in many regards.
An actual human repaint is more work than people think, and doesn't usually look any better, and most times worse.

>>5186553
I tried it before but couldn't get past the sewer level. It's awful and confusing. (the level I mean, not the game). And it was like a third level!

>>5186294
Now the butt.

Dark ForcesGDX when?

i love that system shock 1 has these friendly mutants flying around on the flight bay level

Out of all the character this one is the most unexpected IMO.
https://youtu.be/G9Z_qPsM3RM

Redneck Rampage feels like it would be a great game with a bit more polish. But as it is, with the tiny unnamed keys, the enemy projectiles phasing through walls, and dynamite phasing through enemies half the time, it's extremely frustrating. Are there any mods that fix these issues?

>>5186594
M210 doesnt work with that

>>5186589
Are you talking the one with the switch that has four options? If so, you just need to look along the walls on the first three options for holes. In those holes are the switches to raise the water level in the central area. It sounds weird, but when you manage to get it, you'll feel like an idiot.

Just wait until you get to the imperial city, it has a switch puzzle that will make you feel like a dumbass.

>>5186561
It works, but you end up needing to cheat to get past certain levels, and miss out on a lot of audio during the cutscenes. I regularly play the DOS version, and once you get past the huge pixels and fucked up looking mechanism, it's still fun as fuck.

>>5186637
Dos version doesnt work on my computer (even in dosbox).
I end up with lagged input.
Like every few seconds there are periods where I will "coast" because I lose input control intermittently.
The action/fps is still going on but since its still registering whatever input was there before it lost control I keep moving unable to turn or fire, stuff like that.

>>5186646
Use the GOG version
an anon posted the DarkXL package with the fix here some time ago, but the OP never added into MEGA.

in fact MEGA OP is missing.

>>5186650
thats all With the gog version by the way, forgot to mention that
Ive never made it out of the first level because there's some ledge you're supposed to leap to for reaching your ship, and I cant make the jump because my inputs keep freezing around the time of trying to do it, and it seems like its a very precise thing you have to pull off.

>>5186646
>>5186650

If you give me a couple minutes, I'll slap together the files I have on my XP machine and put it up on mega.

It's the GOG release, with DOSBox ECE, and the steam executable for modern control mapping. I beat the game with it last night, so it's confirmed to work.

>>5186670
i also have the DarkXL stuff saved here
>https://mega.nz/#!0V9gyagQ!1YmuXKPGoIu86v9pUo08WTisTDj0qhv1rdKt3Wx9wyc

if the OP could upload it it would be great

>>5186658
increase dosbox cycles perhaps?

>>5186591

>>5186624
This is the third time this video has been posted.

>>5186585
I understand it would be difficult. But these upscales always just look off, because the program cant possibly understand the artistic intent behind the pixels. If it can't be done right, people should just stop trying.

>>5186721
>the third time
oh my bad its just i havent seen it post it on the newsettler so i felt compelled to notify it.

Any other WADs that feel like Pirate DOOM or Golden Souls 1/2?

>>5186701
No I had to Lower the cycles because I was getting choppy music. For most games of that era the cycles have to be set somewhere in the 20K to 30K range otherwise it gets out of timing and you end up with choppy music and irregular framerates.
I always set DosBox to have +/- 3000 cycles for the cycling keys so I can fine tune it.
> a particularly annoying aspect of playing Xcom 2 Terror From The Deep because the amount of processing needed varies widely depending on the mission
> the ship terror missions can require setting the cycles higher because it has to display all 4 Floors worth of Tiles, otherwise you get a framerate hit just like the old days
> whereas if you do that normally the cycles will be too high and youll end up with choppy music

>>5186680
>>5186670
>>5186731

Here's the link:
>https://mega.nz/#!UJdhzazD!X4h5wb8dXF81XZ0firODX1NysRwUABDr3shLU9KBpGw

If you guys want, I coudl set something like this up for Jedi Knight as well. God damnit more people need to play Jedi Knight.

>>5186727
Fair enough.

kinda wish alfonzone's levels could be played in a single run

>>5186703

>>5186747
Well they can't, and they aren't balanced for that.
Episodes are episodes.

>>5186294
>>5186703
hey this isn't looking too bad honestly, I would have expected something much worse.

>>5186382
Agreed. The author's later level, Redemption of Slain, or whatever it was called was far more inventitive and closer to something that can be sold. NRFTL was like one of the many other mods, no better or worse.

I like Map 4 and 7 though. That battle at the top of the staircase was epic.

>>5186382
>>5186779
I think it's good. All it needs is new music and a new sky texture.

>>5186703

>>5186850
Nice work anon
i fucking chuckled!

>>5186850
More like QCDE, at this point. I'm looking forward to when they start putting in unrelated OCs.

>>5186735
your build/config doesnt work at all
after making sure the launch shortcut was set up properly
running the game loads the Dosbox ECE splash screen, then it sits there with a black screen for a few seconds and crashes to desktop with no message
dead on arrival bud

>>5186335
balls balls balls balls balls

>>5186867
They said that they were gonna make custom heroes compatible eventualy so i guess that is our objective i suppose.

>>5186869
YOU ARE HUGE
YOU MUST HAVE HUGE BALLS OF STEEL
LICK AND SUCK
LICK AND SUCK YOUR BALLS

Gimme some beautiful screenies of dum

>your ass
>my ass
>what's the ass

>>5186906

>>5186868
I’ll try fixing it when I get home from work, but all I can think of is it needing to be in C:\GOG Games\

>>5186942
yeahh my C drive is packed because its a small partition intended only for the OS
ive got everything on D drive

Also I dont have a GOG games folder either, I always customize installation and put things where I want them.
- Wait does your install have all the game content files or do I need to go find mine to copy those over?

>>5186954
It’s quite literally the folder that I had inside the gog games folder on my XP machine, and everything is only about 80MB even on the CD.

>>5186961
yep just checked, same files and everything
sorry, it must have something to do with ECE itself or the way its set up in its configs, im too busy trying to get gzdoom unfucked to work on it

>>5186936
Nice

>>5186990
It most likely is a config issue.

>>5186990
Speaking of which has anyone figured out a way to deal with GZdoom's ever growing list of issues with every new version that comes out?

I just loaded up 3.6 and im getting Slowdowns and Very Fatal Errors crashing the game when loading basic stuff like Plutonia Experiment.


Only reason I got it was because im not sure which version is required to play Ashes 2063.

>>5186929
>you have a grassy ass
>and I've got the wacky weed

>>5186865
Not mine. Just found it and posted it here.

>>5187016
works on my machine :))))

>>5187016
>>5187021
thats not what I asked though and its irrelevant
because earlier versions of it work fine on mine

>>5186906

>>5187029
Vary gud

>>5186906

>decide to give Bolognese a try despite my bias against Mark just because it looks okay
>decently surprised with how it looks
>start gibbing enemies and noticing the gigantic fucking blood splatters that extend over ledges
>notice the glossy blood pools that z-fight with one-another because they're not solid colors
>cacodemons and hell knights require a patch to actually have proper blood while droplets already figured that out, and nashgore: vengeance is going to have support as well
And here I thought I might've found my new gore mod of choice.

While my back was turned,
While my eyes were closed,
Quakecast released episode 2 featuring Quake mapper Ionous

>>5187017
>i possess testicles constructed of a man-made alloy

>>5186906

>>5187048
Mark "cleaned up" the code, but the assets are still a spiced up Brutal Doom, and so it still doesn't really work with the aesthetic or style of the game. Some graphics modifications could maybe do something about it, but meh.

>>5187048
nashgore soon fellow doomer

>>5187037
Noice
What is this mod?

>>5187061
Not so noice

>>5186906

>>5187094
Much scary, very good

>>5186906

>>5187106
Supa scary but not much noice

>>5186906
Map is Putrefier

>>5187094
>>5187098
this is a proper time to actually use the RL against lost souls

>>5187106
>>5187113
> the one time you have a clear shot at the icon of sin and can kill it with 30 bullets
> except auto aiming forces you to shoot at the cybers
> why live

>>5187120
Vary much supa noice

>>5187083
Doxylamine Moon : Overdose
With an old version of Accessories To Murder, and NC-HUD. Pic related is the same, on the map Deneb Colony, by the same author.

You probably couldn't play these maps with the newer versions of ATM, because it replaces some of the things which Overdose uses as trees and other things. Well I mean you could, but it'd look ridiculous and introduce performance problems.

>>5186906
>dum
you mean darn?

>the ship marathon takes place on is actually deimos

>>5187130
Thanks my friend dude

>>5186906
i got a couple

>>5187167

>>5187168
wad? i like the sky

>>5187168
+1

>>5187170
i think it's dark tartarus. of not, i've deleted & forgotten it because of some bullshit, sorry anon

>>5186703

>>5186230
>100 minutes of /vr/

Questions:
>Does the time required to add a custom midi in Slade count towards the 100 minutes?
>Since it needs to be vanilla compatible, I assume that means no custom sky textures?
>Do I submit my map by just posting a link ITT?

i cant seem to remember how i played freezing time completely ingame, while being able to shoot at enemyes and move around... with one keybinding some time ago, if it was with brutal doom or how, do anyone know how to do it?

>>5187256
the Freeze command?

goddamn do I want a game- retro-engine or otherwise- starring some of the characters from quake 3/champs

command to detect enemy name and base health.

>>5187265
Wanna try asking that like a human being there buddy?

>>5187274
beep boop.

>>5186906

>>5187265
linetarget.

>>5187257
yes! how can i map it and use it?

fucking closet weebs

>>5187306
open the console with ` (tilde)
>bind "f" freeze

Now when you press F the game with freeze.

>unbind "f"
will unbind any function from F

>>5187284
wut wad dis is

Also perhaps unsurprisingly, the sterilized Ashes works really well with the Duke Nukem 3D Weapons and Monsters mod.
Well, besides the fact that killing the final boss doesn't trigger the ending.

>>5187250
no
yes
yes, and specify it's for 100min

That HL2 demake in HL1 now has a Ravenholm demo.

https://www.moddb.com/mods/half-life-2-classic/downloads/ravenholm-demo

>>5186724
Have you seen some of the neural network upscaling results?
It's got a lot of potential. It's not just a straight filter.

>>5186729
Adventures of Square

>>5187094
Found two Pains

>>5187016
Did you try the vintage version?

>>5187498
get on my level

>>5187094

>>5186906

>>5186323
You have shit taste if you can't appreciate Into Sandy's City. One of the bast tracks from Doom 2

>>5186735
People really DO need to play more Jedi Knight. That game was my absolute favorite growing up. The mod support was incredible too. I miss those days bros. Playing Canyon Oasis with Rbots and my younger brother every day after school.

>>5186936
What's that mod and level? Looks really interesting

check 'em

>>5186228
Can somebody port gzdoom to Wii so I can play Brutal Doom with the wiimote?

>>5187556
ok /vg/ skips repeating digits
thats lame as fuck

>>5187556

>>5187562
I mean /vr/

>>5187556
>>5187562
I thought you had committed sudoku as JPCPguy?

>>5187570
the doomguy avatar i was controlling died
im still here

>>5187556
this is your second time you've done this

god damn, this is some primo failure

>>5187584
Yeah, I didn't know /vr/ skips repeating digits

>>5187556
> 556
clearly your only option is to use one on yourself now

>>5187586
>>5187562
You sure? Maybe you were just too late?

>>5187555

>>5185798
>I just said everything you did in 2 sentences
Oh no you didn't. You actually did pretty much the exact same thing I was talking about to begin with. Are you SimonOC, by any chance?

>>5187586
Check 'em!

>>5187607
No, there was definitely no 555 in the index anywhere

SmoothBolognese when?

your mom is single and so is my last digit lmao

>>5187348
Thank you so much! its really fun when you only want to relax a little haha, at least for me

>>5186990
So I believe it might be something on your computer, because I was able o get it running on both my laptop and my desktop by changing the location in the shortcut. Are your drivers up to date? Is it the OGL option I use?

>>5187547
Hell yeah.

Two notes having Ralsei as a companion in Hideous Destructor.
The first is that his healing hugs are a little treacherous in that the vision starts to shake and fade a little as occasionally it seems like he's accidentally hurting you, which they apparently can since I saw my health go into the yellow when he gets too close and starts to hug me at full health.
Second note is that it's funny watching him run around trying to hug invisible pinkies while I'm sitting in a corner punching at the air.

>>5186735
jedi knight was so good
played this shit way too much as a kid

>>5187471
They need a bit of manual work however.
For instance, the original Mancubode model has six nipples, a detail that's lost when he was turned into a sprite.
This should be replicated on the high res sprites.

>>5186735
Maybe a Star Wars FPS compilation could work well for something to put into the OP.

Can somebody recommend me some recently released (last year or two) techbase wads?

>>5187760
That's totally possible, but including stuff past Mysteries of the Sith would probably make people screech autistically because damn near every shooter is post 1999.

>>5187553
I was playing Ashes 2063, sterilized version yet with its included monsters and weapons anyway, with DarkDoom and some Universal Enhanced AI. It basically transformed entire parts of the episode into relying on my flashlight to catch my bearings, or turning it off to throw off enemy accuracy with UEAI's stealth system at the cost of visibility.

>>5187809
Dammit, DarkDoomZ*
that's the second time i've done that

>>5187816
That's mad cool. What is that?

>>5187821
Same mods as mentioned above.

>>5187516

>>5187871

>>5187871
if sandy was my grandpa things would be different around here

>>5186703
MMMM, I LIKE IT!

>>5187029
I recognize that rock texture

>>5186228
Gzdoom or veteran edition?
Also where is that governor’s sewer guy?

Have there been any good megawads this year?

What are some good christmas mapsets?

>>5186850
This got me thinking, has anyone made any splatoon wads?

>>5188035
It would be neat to have a Ketchup-based mod where you gain points by painting the map in blood. I don't know what it would do beyond that, though.

How do I stay on target when I'm making a large map?

I keep thinking, just one small part at a time, but I keep doubting myself on the details and it never looks quite how I imagine it in my head.

>>5187758
Agreed, but it's a lot less work than working with a typical blurry procedural upscale.

>>5187471
I think screenshots don't really convey how it really kinda does look like some stupid HQ resize filter in action.

I think there's a ton of potential for this, but right now it's just not there.

>re: HD sprites

I think a big reason it's hard to do a HD sprite pack is because the monsters were made from clay at first, they're not just straight drawings.

>>5187809
I'm playing pretty much the exact same thing but with hideous destructor and without enhanced AI since i feel like that would conflict with HD, holy shit does it get intense, the maps are perfect for HD's gameplay though, plenty of debris to hide behind.

>>5187990
chocolate strife

>>5188013
Last good megawad is Plutonia over 20 years ago. Chances of breaking the streak is zero.

>>5188269
You mean Master Levels

are /k/obolds a thing?

I need pictures of kobolds with guns, preferably modern weaponry

>>5188289
dang, that was for a thread on /tg/
we can pretend it was me asking about Samson on GMOTA

>>5188289
>>5188290
Wrong tab?

>>5188303
the first post gave me an error message, I guess I fucked up when I reloaded the page

>>5188269
scythe

I haven't played Doom 3 in a while, but when do the chaingunners or tentacle men ever say stuff like "Your kind is over" that is used in Meta Doom?
I watched some D3 footage and so far they only say "you" or "die" in a softer tone."

>>5188445
Those voices were from the beta when Reznor worked on it

>>5188050
Well, splatoon center around not only painting the map, but moving around in the ink, hidden and with greater mobility, allowing you and your team to have control of the map, as well as slowing down enemies who step in it. I imagine that could easily be fertile grounds for a wad. Call it "Blood Stalker" or something where you can hide and swim around in enemies' blood. Just a little primer idea, I guess.

>>5188485
To adapt the concept into something that would work a little better in first person and adapting it to Doom's gameplay, what if being coated in enemy blood made you harder to detect? Gib an enemy at point blank, and get covered completely in its blood and nothing of that class will see you. The further away you are means you are splashed with less blood, only giving you a chance of an enemy ignoring you, or acting as a blur sphere.

>>5188147
True. And you don't get questionable artists taking horrible artistic liberties, such as pic related.

>>5188190
True. They were intended to be scaled down, especially the ones which were made from clay.
Looking at Mr. Bruiser here, you'll notice that his face is actually quite flat and undefined, probably because they were going to scale the graphics down and would work him out in post.

The latex models were somewhat more detailed (and more importantly, were easier to pose and didn't break when you did so, like the clay ones), though they ended up doing some substantial changes anyway. Spidermind had his tiny and dinky three-barreled gun replaced with a big six-barreled death machine, and the Revenant was almost completely redone in post, going from a fleshy thing with a skull, to a skeleton proper.

>>5188558
Here's early WIPs of the Baron, he's scaled down here, and notice that his face actually looks quite alright in this resolution.

>>5186906

>>5188571
>>5186906

>>5188563
It always surprised me how much of the game is basically digitized clay and latex models or toys, when so much of it has become synonymous with 90's spritework.

>>5188576
>>5186906

>>5188580
It's like oldschool movie prop making, given how many ways they actually did graphics, there's actually kind of a mix of visual styles, which ultimately means that a lot of graphical styles will fit near seamlessly into Doom, as long as you put the effort in.

A lot of the tech textures were old computer parts they weren't using (particularly the circuit board ones), or all the greebling and detail which was present on the toy raygun which they used to make the BFG9000.

>>5188676

>>5188678

>>5188680
Here comes the tech textures.

>>5188681

>>5188682
The famous exit door.

>>5188684
PEW PEW PEW

>>5188689

>>5188690
This one looks a bit different, and I think there were multiple versions of this toy raygun, but obviously iD was using one which was common in the 90's.

>>5188693
There's three known manufacturers of this thing, and judging by how they differ somewhat, the mold was probably modified at some point.

40k almost had a sskicking Doom clone
>https://twitter.com/dosnostalgic/status/1021470139068440578

latest Quakecast is confirmed good

>>5188757
Instead there was that Space Hulk game.

>>5188707
Stop hurting Ralsei

Just beat blood a few minutes ago
It was fucken brütal

>>5188707
>putting the goat on the pain dimension
you sick fuck

whens nashgore

>>5188829
>>5188834
I'll always make sure nothing bad happens to the fluffy boy.

>>5188840
Tomorrow Nash will release the beta.

>>5188832
is there option to increase explosion effects on gdx? it lacks those punches from original one

>>5188840
Over ten years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrgc56WcrtQ

>>5188987
Do enough people play this to warrant all of these updates?

>>5188987
> QC:DE gets Hunter before QC actual
wow

>>5186228
To me the Zandronum symbol looks like a mechanized bloody skull.

>>5188987
>final champion
My ass.

I know that Skulltag is officially abandoned, but why did the mods lock up the site forums and remove them from being visible?

>>5189045
They need to give the russkies time to properly model every crevice of her abs, is all.

>>5189030
I highly doubt it, but it's not like it's probably very hard work.

>playing Doom
>getting my shit pushed in on the highest difficulty
>put on Bolt Thrower
>beat a level without taking any damage

>>5189091
carnevil threw a tanty

>>5189091
if I remember right, >>5189230 where he basically forced them to shut down skulltag so that he could make his not-Doom game, Wrack, by some means or another. I think by mainly claiming he owned everything skulltag.
he never finished Wrack and it didn't do very well, while skulltag shifted to zandronum and moved on

Just tried out Ashes for the first time. I think MAP05 is the most sp00ped I've ever been playing a Doom mod. Lots of Fallout and Battletanx vibes. The levels are a little longer than I prefer, though, but they're impressive in scope, nonetheless. The "Further" soundtrack reminds a lot of the Battletanx 2 OST. Pretty nostalgic. How many maps are in this wad?

Dude waiting for nashgore is becoming fucking painful, please just release it already man

Does anyone have a more up to date tutorial on 3D modelling or texture editing for the original Quake? I've been using the Tome of Preach, which actually works, but recommends GMAX, which was outdated in the early 2000s, let alone now. I also have little idea on how to work within Quake's color pallet when making textures, causing most stuff to assume the wrong colors when designing.

I don't know how to backport stuff with Blender, it seems like the addon I downloaded for it doesn't save things in the correct format, and I haven't even started with animation yet.

>>5188987
>Keep using silhouette of the N.M.E. in thumbnail
>"HUNT OR BE HUNTED" title card
>Oh crap they finally put in a RotT rep

Fuck

QUAKE

how the hell do I disable texture filtering on UT? I tried with messing around with some commands I know and all of them dont work, unless UT doesnt have commands based around that

>>5189301
HUH!

>>5186241
what wad is this for the monsters?

>>5189301
its hard as balls

>>5189321
A currently WIP project.

Someone developed an all new upscaling algorithm, and it actually seems to do a pretty decent job of converting lines and details and make a higher resolution graphic, without grossly distorting it.
It's not perfect, but it looks good enough that people are exploring if it can be used as a basis for making a proper HD conversion mod for once.
It'll be interesting to see how it turns out.

i need a quick rundown on quoth and what it is all about

>>5189353
a pack of new monsters for quake mappers to use. not too much to explain
https://www.quaddicted.com/webarchive/kell.quaddicted.com/quoth/quoth2.html

>try to play AD
>have to fiddle with command line options to get it running at a good framerate
>have to manually enter "impulse 130" to make the shotguns fire like normal Quake shotguns do
>play level
>get randomly instagibbed by enemy taken from Hexen 2
Very cool. Truly an unassailable masterpiece!

>>5186703
sniff sniff

>>5189235
Man, I remember wrack. The gunplay and enemy design was supremely boring.
And why the fuck are they making a tower defense roguelite sequel, when the first game didn't even get finished?

>>5188571
>>5188576
what's this?

>>5189770
zanieons maps, you can find them on moddb
he made hunters moon

it's out
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=62641

>>5186230
it's out
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=62641

>>5189812
Praise the Lord

Fuck it, put out a release candidate

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=62163

>>5189812
Conductor, it appears we may have some issues.

>>5189307
Change to software rendering? It's been a long time since I played with the video settings in UT

Please help me out people.
In the versions of GZDoom after 3.4 sound is very muffled/compressed as if im playing Duke World Tour again.
Older versions sound fine. I tried to dig into configs and experiment with variables, but nothing helped.

Does someone has the link for the QC Nailgun for Q1

>>5189952
It's still in beta state,so expect to see some complications.

>>5189952
Be sure to report it

IT BURNS IT BURNS AAH-HAA-AAAAAAAAAAH

>>5189051
This, it's the only way they keep it in people's minds, just adding whoever the fuck they can think of.

Are there wads with a creepy,horror atmosphere that maintain the classic gameplay?

>>5190161
I'm working on a map that might have the kind of atmosphere that you're looking for, but it will be a couple of days before I have it finished. Music may not be what you're after, but that's easy enough to replace. This video is a little out dated. The map has progressed quite a bit beyond what's shown here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC-2JDVplsg

>>5190173
I really like it,it looks like it was heavily inspired by PSX DOOM aesthetic.Keep it up.

>>5189905
i had fun anon,
nightmare lord is fucking op on uv, had to scum sorry :P

>>5190173
Is that some Armored Core 3 or Silent Line music I hear?

>>5186906

>>5190185
I always loved the use of color and lighting is PSX Doom, but even more so Doom 64 and Doom 3 (to some extent).

>>5190221
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYZkO6NQWqw
Yes sir! Armored Core and Ace Combat were my favorite Play Station series. Still play both to this day. Not sure which Armored Core is my favorite, but I love the aesthetics and soundtrack of 3 and SL. They're both quite dramatic and intense and felt it fit the atmosphere I wanted in my map.

Does anyone know what counts as Matches in SRB2Kart for unlocks? Do Record Attack races and/or Non-Modded Multiplayer races count?

>>5190081
Did you lose your settings? Have you remembered to turn audio quality up in your audio settings?

>>5188842
Where can I download this goat?

https://phoboslab.org/xibalba/

>>5190062
I tried that and the game kept crashing

What are some other monster mods that change how enemies behavior, things along the line of Colorful Hell, Champions, and Dark Doom Creatures?

>>5190376
DRLA monsters

>>5190381
You're right, I forgot about that one, I already tried that, I was wondering if there were any more. I guess for clarity I should also mention I've played Combined Harms as well.

with the new gore feature in doom eternal, are there mods that also have some sort of "destructible demons" thing?

>>5190353
Not a retro game and looks ugly.

>>5190376
Project Babel?

>>5190401
Yeah I tried that as well.

>>5190376
Project MSX/MSFix'd, Bulletye/Bulleteye Monster Only.

>>5190353
>https://phoboslab.org/xibalba/
Fun, but lacks the depth to make it engaging. Not a fan of low-res pixel art just for the sake of looking retro either, but that one's pure preference.

>>5190414
I've tried Project MSX but not fix'd, and this Bulletye is new to me, I'll check it out. Thanks.

>>5190414
>Project MSX/MSFix'd
Speaking about this, whatever happened to the anon that was making an overhauled version of it?

>>5190428
The MSFix'd guy? He seems to release a version, vanish for a few years and then release another.

>>5190428
Same question for the anon that was working on the Immoral Conduct update

>>5190225
What is this?

>>5189812
Based and NashPilled

>>5186906

>>5189289
Is this what I think it is?

>>5189289
http://pnahratow.github.io/creating-models-for-quake-1.html

>>5190258
>Have you remembered to turn audio quality up in your audio settings
How the fuck do you do that, I know of fucking none of the context of the sliders and switches on most of those.

This fits more than I thought it would, but fuck me if the difficulty didn't significantly spike from all the hitscanning super-accurate assholes everywhere.

>>5190678
sound options -> openal options -> resampler

what is it set to?

>>5190161
City of the Damned : Apocalypse

What do you think of Brutal Doom Lite,/vr/?

>>5190705
Not as good as it sounds, a lot of it seems off and it ends up coming across as a bit of a waste of time compared to other mods.

>>5190705
promising, but was expecting it'd have a bunch of cvars so i could turn stuff on and off

>>5190386
literally brutal doom has this. zombiemen and imps can be shredded apart and some of the other monsters also have location based damage. it's honestly one of the highlights of the mod, shame that the hit detection is usually ass.

>>5190658
Yeah, it's my poor attempt. It didn't turn out very well, but was a nice learning experience. I've always liked the original city killer combat shotgun in Fallout though.

>>5190664
This is exactly what I was hoping for, thanks anon. I've played some paks with interesting custom models, in terms of new weapons, new enemies, and just doodads that go around the map to add detail, and I wanted to try my hand at the same.

>>5190740
>tfw Quake and classic Fallout games are my favorite
Keep up the God's work, anon. I really hope you won't abandon this stuff and keep making more.

This is kinda unrelated, but I figured it might give you some inspiration - http://fallout-nevada.ucoz.ru/FChild.zip

>>5190739
So how long until the burtl crowd starts claiming they stole the idea from Mark? I've already seen someone claiming they took the flamethrower idea from BD (even though they work completely different).

>>5190775
Mark himself tried to promote the idea that Doom 4 "stole" from him and that they should've been paying him for his ideas they used.

>>5190775
Isn't BD's flamethrower just a regular one?
Because Eternal is meant to be on DG's left shoulder
You could say that the heavy cannon being a machinegun/sniper rifle hybrid resembles a weapon upgrade in Trailblazer or that some things like the meathook and sword resemble GMOTA
You could say the fire baron resembles that one black baron spriteset from most randomizers and Realm667
But you don't see anyone saying that because they only know one mod

When is really low poly going be be an aesthetic again?

>>5190225
>>5190481
Looks like the 'tower defence' map in DUMP3. Don't know what the weapon mod is.

>>5190793
DUSK is going with that.

>>5190353
I like that it takes place in a Mesoamerican setting. The rest is meh.

>>5190793
It already is.

The problem is that it's being done by posers with neither the artistic talent nor the funding to make proper use of it.

Today, 'low poly' means 1k tris and minimal texture work, because texturing is hard and takes skill, time and effort, but any idiot can slap together a vaguely human shape out of boxes.

Pic related, modern garbage.

>>5190803
>>5190809

Yeah, I guess I'm talking more about the pre-skeleton days where body parts were all just basic shapes that sort of look like a single model when still.

>>5190809
It's either that or you get hideous shit out of this from games that claim to be inspired by 90s FPS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwHRPVrZVgM

>>5190809
I can count *one* person who nails the low-poly look, and sadly they turned out to be infected with massive /pol/io. Hopefully someone else can pick up the slack.

>>5190809
It bothers me that for as solid as DUSK is with its gameplay, the (admittedly very small) dev team opted for models so low-poly that i'm pretty sure Quake 1 has more polygons.

>>5190819
>I can count *one* person who nails the low-poly look, and sadly they turned out to be infected with massive /pol/io

Which Strife dialog script is this?

>>5190819
Who? Who actually gets that style? I don't give a fuck about their other opinions.

>>5190829
Fuck off.

>>5190835
Bug off.

>>5190820
It's got the problem of artists coming at it with 'make it look old and crude' at the front of their minds, when they should have come at it with '256 colors, 800 polys, 128*256 texture' at the front of their mind.

>>5190835
>being this mad

>>5190818
I mean, I'll take that over flat shaded hipster trash any day.

>>5190852
Kind of depressing seeing shit look so much worse than it did back when those were the hard technological limitations, because back then people were working within those limitations to make something look decent, rather than trying to make something look like utter shit to say it looks older than it is.

>>5190819

>>5190857
It's still some generic shooter that they've downscaled, stuck janky looking models in and thrown some awful filters on to say it's pixelized.

>>5190863
>Generic shooter
>DUSK
Oi that game doesn't look amazing but it plays like a classic FPS with some modern mechanics.

>>5190819
Well? Dish, sister.

>>5190871
He's referring to Proteus in the response chain, I believe.

>>5190862
hi, zanieon

>>5190818
I really like that games style. Regardless of it's claims to inspiration.

>>5190852
>800 polys
Woah buddy, what super computer do you have. We're not running this at NASA

>>5190762
I'm taking an actual 3D modeling course next year to improve my skills, it's just right now I'm working in the Quake engine, so polycounts have to be somewhat low and animation is done frame by frame instead of whatever they use in the modern era, bones or something else if we've past that point as well.

So many people make Doom mods here, it's wonderful inspiration to see what can be done with older engines, even if it is something as simple as a few weapon replacements, a new enemy, and a sleek looking map.

>>5190897
It's still bones, and various constraints, unless you're doing movies. Then you get muscle simulations and what not.
Some of that type of tech is being implemented in newer games (blend shapes and blend textures). It's kinda a meme game at this point, but check out Star Citizens behind the scenes stuff for some interesting videos on how they do stuff with facial animations, and what-have-you.

Damn, this is one of the best Quake maps I've ever played. Retro Jam 6, MJB. The level design is really intricate and interesting, involving a lot of impossible geometry, swimming throguh freestanding walls, floors, & ceilings of water. And it looks beautiful too.

>>5190793
You can make mosaic art look good, hence why pixels can still be in vogue.
Can't say the same for low poly. 3D was seen as a revolutionary step in a journey to realism, and now that we've come as far as we have, the old doesn't look pretty the same way pixels did. Instead of a tapestry of color creatively assembled into a character, it comes across to us as some sort of stillborn attempt. It feels half baked, even when good effort is put into it. The antiquated nature of pixels acts as a benefit, as their construction and composition belies a sense of artistic competence and a sense of nostalgia. Old polys don't carry nostalgia for the past, but awkward loathing for it. It looks like an outdated version of something we now know in its near perfection, rather than something old and singular that we miss.

>>5189797
thanks

>>5190938
I mostly disagree, but that's because I play a lot of late 90s/End of PS1/N64 games. You often see a lot more in the way of texture work than you do nowadays, and in the case of games like the N64 Zeldas and Quake/Jedi Knight, a lot of effort going in to making the simple polygons look better than they should.

>>5190803
I love Dusk, but its graphics are bad even when compared to FPS circa-1996.

>>5190938
Disagree. There are plenty of low poly examples that shine, FF9 has some great low poly art. Both examples are working within a limitation, and low poly focuses more on efficient silhouette than anything, and then onto wrapping your mosaic around a form.
>>5190954
> You often see a lot more in the way of texture work than you do nowadays
You see a lot more put into the color map. Texturing now is multiple maps to achieve a different look in different environments... The amount of work is still up there, but spread out. There are better tools too, so they're not fighting limitations of the technology as much.

>>5190775
>So how long until the burtl crowd starts claiming they stole the idea from Mark?
That's been a thing since Doom 4. Even Mark was whining about how Id stole his ideas.

>>5190938
Low poly only looks bad when it tries to be realistic. And even the ugly Jedi Knight models have some charm.

>>5190968
You're right, I just wish shit was still simple enough that really good texture work could make something look a lot better than the shading ever could. Also, when are we gonna get big fuck off pixels as particles again.

>>5190353
well, that was short

>>5190908
I remember playing through that map as well in the egypt jam. It's a really creative use of water. I was slightly annoyed by some of the enemy placement combined with the sluggish movement being in water gives you. I still think it's an excellent use of Quake's limited water physics. Next time I play through a map jam I need to make note of all the gems I come across.

>>5190819
>they turned out to be infected with massive /pol/io
that's even better

>>5191049
Shhh, he'll get mad.

>>5190740
Please make a Fallout-mod in Quake.

>>5191049
Wonder if it's anyone we know.

>>5190809
Catmouth Island was made with N64-standards in mind. Characters were all under 300 triangles and the rest was made using as few triangles as possible, all using the same texture atlas and compressed animations with simple rigs. The only thing that made it about 50 mb in size was a lot of sound and music.

>>5190834
not him but i think devil daggers has a very strong low poly aesthetic. however it doesn't have level design which is a shame

spotted this in the window of a tattoo parlor a few years back

>>5190819
who

>>5191126
He's not wrong.

>>5191108
does banjo, conker, perfect dark, etc look like that trash?

>>5191151
possibly the most correct sign i've ever seen in a window

Are there any mods that let me play with Blood weapons/enemies in Doom, but not the levels that everyone keeps trying to remake?

>>5190809
>n64 standards
>no texture filtering
>two-color textures on everything
>high resolution font

Yeah no.

That doesn't look anything like an N64 game whatsoever.

>>5190818
that's just doom3/quake4/prey

>>5191184
theres one called ultra crispy

>>5191224
That's really more of a "Blood-like" mod where the creator loosely compiled some Blood graphics and sounds with a lot of other things to also mix in Blood 2.

>>5191187
Who mentioned N64?

>>5191271
-> >>5191108

>>5191275
now I'm not sure if that picture is the same game

>>5191275
Oh. I think he meant technical standards, not style.

>>5191278
Looking at screenshots it's definitely not.
Looks like Catmouth Island also has higher res textures though. The poly count looks within N64 limits.

>download and install reshade to have that beautiful ssao in muh quake
>doesn't work
>well, at least I have ut2004
>doesn't work

>>5191353
>read this
>check utzone
>404
darkest timeline

>>5191390
so many unreal mods lost to the echoes of time and abandoned hard drives

>>5190938
Lowpoly in q1/q2/q3 is beautiful

>>5191391
there is a guy in the Epic and Beyond forums (Carbon) who has a back up of all the shit that was produced for the game, he tried to share it but the torrent was hueg, I couldn't participate, I didn't have the space or the speed at the time

>>5191353
>ssao
>in quake
stop this

>>5191391

>>5191406

I'm glad I don't care about unreal.

>>5191410
Okay?

>>5186228
beat this on super slimey yesterday and i feel fucking blessed
>godlike arts and environments(especially 2)
>level designs are tight as fuck
>weapons that feels great to use
>fucking spinning fork spoon

where can I find all the fanmade mods? I actually bought chex cereal for this shit

>>5191410
*blocks ur path*

>>5191410
why? what did unreal do to you?

>>5190212
>>5189905
okay, where the hell are the last two secrets on the hub map, is it the two locked doors facing each other or are they actually locked with nothing behind them...

>>5191410
>

>>5190705
Just play >brutal doom. It’s a bit fun

>>5191510
GO FUCK YOURSELF

>>5190481
Final Doomer

>>5190225
Best heavy machine gun in any mod.