/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
/Vertex Relocation/ PHASE 2
IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : Boom
RULES AND CLAIMED SLOTS : https://pastebin.com/CrVTqGvr
BETA V4 : https://files.catbox.moe/s4aonf.wad

=== CURRENT RELEASE ===
Fore/vr/ Alone
http://clovr.xyz/wadsup/doku.php?id=fore_vr_alone

=== NEWS ===
[10-9] Tetanus DX released and the Tetanus texture set is now free to use
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/148612-tetanus-dx-the-definitive-tetanus-experience/

[10-6] International Doom 8.0 released
https://github.com/JNechaevsky/international-doom/releases/tag/8.0

[10-5] Duake(Doom weapon in Quake) Released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/duake/downloads/duake

[10-5] DBP68 Released
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9znzpf35mnybgdra6nztf/DBP68_RC1.3.zip?rlkey=oezfhxl9nzk8f0t7sxtvo9ljj&st=k55l6emf&dl=1

[10-5] Quake 2 PSX mod released for Kex Quake 2
https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-ii-psx/downloads/quake-ii-psx-10

[10-3] Dark Forces' Heart of the Matter released
https://df-21.net/downloads/levels/hotm/

[10-3] Update 1 for the Nightdive port is out
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2280/view/4675389307867623088

[10-1] Blood: What Lies Beneath has been released
https://moddb.com/mods/blood-what-lies-beneath

[10-1] Eviternity 2 has gone final
https://eviternity.dfdoom.com/

[9-29] Fore/vr/ Alone is on idgames!

[9-28] Doom comic-inspired gameplay wad
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/146746

[9-26] Hell Frontier megawad now has a release candidate
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/148356

[9-26] Maria no Jigoku has been released
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/145951

[9-24] Sandy interview on Doomworld
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/148308

[9-23] Half-Life 1 pre-release build
https://archive.org/details/nettest-2

[9-13] Monster Sounds EX, expanded Doom monster SFX
https://youtu.be/ceAamYSdfqc

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [mm-dd] date bracket)

>>11301838
> Not anymore. Anons don't like being told what to do by some discord outsider. It's not going in because of the sperg, nothing against the mod itself or the creator of course.

So you admit that this is a personal pettiness as opposed to objectivity? Ok that guy was definitely right then, despite being insane and/or retarded
Damn my opinion on this really changed from yesterday when it was just him being a psycho

>>11301840
Not your call. The new pic will have enough space for it to fit. It's not getting any favoritism either, it'll just be another tile along with the others.
>>11301850
How are you gonna throw around "this is 4chan, gb2reddit" when you don't even know how to quote posts

>>11301853
Well said.

>>11301850
Why do you keep pretending to be different people.

>>11301881
Are you sure it's him, it looks like he got banned and wiped in the last thread

>>11301883
Dude pretty much admitted to ban evading a thread or two back.

Is Romero's Doom 2 wad coming out tomorrow, or is he going to wait for Doom 1's 31st? He hasn't shown anything for it as far as I can tell.

>>11301891
I wouldn't hold my breath. Sigil 2 was released less than a year ago. Realistically I'd expect Hellion's release on 2028.

>>11301891
Hasn't he done some making for it on stream, or was that only sigil 2?
One humanity was a map for his d2 project tho.

>>11301858
If someone talks about Reddit like it's some arch enemy of /vr/, they sure are just visiting on this thread. Everyone who knows something about Doom, knows that r/doom is not our nemesis. It's just the retarded cousin of all Doom communities.

>>11301853
>play mods fun cool
>revenant campaign
>hard half suck
>saw ass
>demons feels

>>11301954
>pic
Awesome idea. That’s also a pretty decent mug.
I’m trying to work on Unreal again or another DS run, but I can’t decide between Babel and HD monsters.
>SK8PN
I’ve got a webm for that.

>>11301954
>revenant campaign
I'm getting an idea of a /vr/ project, where you play as a revenant.

t. ideas guy

>>11301964
>every time you die an archvile bro resurrects you

>>11301930
I mean, I sincerely hate r/Doom, they fucking disgust me, but I also almost never think about them at all either, they aren't a concern for me.

>>11301971
r/doom is just a fanart dump

>>11301971
It's like being concerned about Doom1+2 steam forums or guides section.

>MAP26: A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood? (1994 Tune-up Community Project)
Really starting to flag now.

>>11301963
I'm probably not gonna play them with this, but for some reason I was compelled to make them both playable on it anyway. Spent basically all of yesterday on it. A good portion of it was trying to figure out where and how I wanted to arrange the keys in sbarinfo.

>>11301975
Right? The plebe retards can stay where they are.

>>11301954
>saw ass

Literalism is a weird wad. I get that community projects have varying quality, but never have I seen such a gaping amount of quality differences. Some of the maps would fit into same category with the best bunch of Eviternity maps and some are like joke maps out of Mock 2. I feel bad for the mappers who gave their best for this.

>>11301997

>>11301980
Finally past it.

I don't know if this is an issue specific to Nugget, but sometimes in Ad Mortem when I'm holding fire on the SSG and it runs out of ammo, I just lose the ability to pull out weapons ever again.

i sat here for like 5 minutes while stoned and watching someone map and i tried to explain a fight idea that popped into my head, and it involved me spending another 5 minutes drawing out what i was trying to explain before sending them this really scuffed diagram of what i was trying to say was a pendant shape

what i said instead?

>>11301997

>>11302009
As the creator of map 18, I apologize

>>11302257
That's weird. Try reporting it in the release thread and hope Vaeros sees it? I don't know for sure but he seems like he's gonna do the last stuff on it this Halloween.

>>11302385
>taunt
Seems more like an invitation to me.

>Chainfist
Is it only useful against guards? I managed to kill a gladiator with it in melee but it doesn't seem like it has a lot of stopping power.

>>11301880
chef elzar?

>>11302510
Yeah, it’s not too crazy through the original GZ. I think mods like Citadel give it a damage boost, and KexQuake2 makes it still hitstun enemies even on hard+.

>>11302420
it's a Russian taunt

Are the pak files for the original game and the mission packs (SoA/DoE) from Kex-Quake compatible with source ports?
I've noticed so far that I haven't come across any enemies missing, and that seems pretty nice.
>>11302385
Model link?
That's Outer Base, isn't it?

>>11301880
He's the most intimidating boss, especially with how fast he sprints at you.

>>11302612
Not many places still host the model, I see it on tastyspleen's model lis,. Though that one is pretty bare bones. I just zipped up the model, a few skins and the sounds I have for her and tossed the file on catbox for you.

https://files.catbox.moe/o5mx14.zip

>>11301838
some of you guys are alright, don't go to mars tomorrow

>>11302691
>Don't worry, they'll get their product.

I'm really enjoying TNT: Evilution. I think I only ever played Plutonia in the past, but this is great.

It's time for Wednesday Night Wipeout!
Come play some SRB2Kart!

How to join (The short and easy way):
Download the All-in-one repack: https://mega.nz/file/N3kwhCDL#lRuLVeECG3pB_gJWhUZo1Zhp7agcBPYjhlR3ZJKf5n4
Extract it to its own folder (NOT the desktop or program files)
Run "SRB2Kart-Neptune (Connect to vrkart).bat" and wait for any missing files to download in-game
DO NOT run "srb2kart.exe" and expect to be able to join the server.
If you don't have a 64-bit machine/OS for whatever reason: Copy the contents of the 32-bit folder into the main folder

How to join (The longer and harder way):
Download version 1.6 of the game: https://github.com/STJr/Kart-Public/releases/download/v1.6/srb2kart-v16-Installer.exe
Get the custom client we use: https://github.com/NepDisk/srb2k-neptune/releases/tag/Neptune2.3
Get the mods: https://mega.nz/folder/MiUiESSa#CyovwTUnO9TSmqbwMI1xBg
Connect to 51.161.34.159 (either use connect in console or "specify ipv4 address" under Multiplayer)

>I HAVE TO BITCH FAST AND TEXT CHAT TOO SLOW
We also have a Mumble server!
Address: 51.161.34.159 (same as the game server)
Port: default
Password: endoom

>I heard this game supports proximity chat, are we using that?
No.

Pro tips: https://pastebin.com/YV6biqxq
(This is out of date and written for a different server, but it still has a lot of useful information.)

Recent Changes:
Added BigO Maps v4.0
New sounds for Dominations

>>11302707
>dat technology
>no hair-loss fix
>no eye fix

>>11303040
An uncanny feline, I fear him.

>>11301838
What's your favorite spooky mod? HL, Doom, Quake, Blood, anything

>>11302707
>When you play Doom 3 OG version on minimum settings.

>>11303135
Legacy Of Suffering, Unloved, Unloved 2, Cold As Hell, Happy Time Circus and Happy Time Circus and Soundless Mound are all very cool. I usually prefer boom/vanilla stuff, but these are great wads.

>>11303135
The HL mod where you beat the shit out of zombies with a rolled up umbrella.

There are so many damn megawads now. The amount of megawads is just too damn high. It's more fun to just watch them on youtube instead of playing them.

>>11303169
There's no reason to play all of them, just check out the ones you think you would enjoy playing.

>>11302746
Oh yeah please oversaturate my bandwidth yeah that's the stuff

>>11303239
No, they should stop making megawads so I can catch up

>>11303169
this but videogames

>>11303169
>>11303306
Seeking out new things constantly is gay, and the sign of a simple mind. I prefer to obsess over a small group of things I consider perfect and squeeze every last bit of depth and knowledge from them that I can.

>>11303308
Anon you're just describing autism-based hyper-fixations

this has never been topped

>>11303313

>>11303313
I see no problem with this. Nothing good ever came from men who didn't obsess over small things.

Are there any other mods similar to Aphrodite? Basically just a neat reskin for Doomguy so the vanilla gameplay remains 100% unchanged.
I like all the cool characters that usually come along with gameplay mods, but I quickly go back to vanilla after playing them for a few minutes. This is the perfect middle ground for me.

>>11303330
I never said there was a problem with it, I do take a problem with
>Seeking out new things constantly is gay
Just sounds really sheltered

>>11303169
>now

>>11303308
You don't have seek new wads. You find them without even seeking if you stay in touch with the community.

>>11303169
There's insane amount of very good wads and especially megawads released this year. Just found Road To Hades, Hispanic Community Project and Dominus Diabolicus. All of them very enjoyable stuff.

>>11302746
oh shit ggs

>>11302407
It's not even the worst map. It's actually kind of funny.

>>11302746
ggs

>>11302746
GGs

>>11303412
what did you FREAKS do to my robot

Exploit this image.

>>11303498
Hard mode: no tranny edits

>>11303498

>>11303503
>>11303509

>>11303498
don't limit yourselves to just object labeling though

>>11303498

>>11303524
ah man I fucked up by putting the shine on that "a" too low.

>>11303519
>trust nobody, not even yourself

>>11303498

>>11303498

If you were to learn Quake duel all over again, how would you do it?

>>11303563
You just plan a route that coincides with all the important pick ups respawning

>>11303524
Could've sworn there was a cornucopia behind too

>>11303498

>>11303509
Map21 Nirvana

>>11303498

>>11303635
How am I just now figuring out they're holding meat cleavers?

>>11303498

>>11302041
This map was kickass. Fletcher` is a really good mapper.

>>11303756
wow, it's literally me

>>11303498

>>11303332
Skel made OHM, it started off life as just a reskin but got some neat additions along the way.

>https://skelegant.itch.io/one-hell-of-a-marine

I might take a crack at making something like those myself. Won't be as polished but it'll definitely be an option.

> oh neat, this HROT game looks like a cute Quake clone, set in fantastic versions of real Czech locations
> "you might want to check out the final boss though"
> it's le epic Putin on le bear
Why are butthurtbelters like this?

>>11303797
Lol

>>11303808
It's pretty sad that she got somebody complaining that she's not doing enough Decorate-based mods in the comment section of this
https://skelegant.itch.io/eraser-weapons

The sort of dehacked renaissance period we've been getting has been really cool.

>>11303894
When id24 gets implemented on source ports, you can expect dozens of dehacked weapon mods.

>>11303903
That's a big fucking "when" since it's not even feature complete on it's flagship port.

>>11303894
Yeah, while I do sorta miss that era of Skelegant I can't say Aphrodite, Typhon 2, Black Magwell, OHM and even Eraser Weapons are boring or not bringing enough to the table. It seems like she really found her calling with dehacked and I'm all for it, I'm happy I got her interested in it while I was working on Eraser desu.

>>11303903
Eh, I doubt it. While Doom Tools is nice, having to compile your decohack into a dehacked file through is just something of an entry barrier for some reason and GZ still reigns supreme when it comes to modsding even if a good chunk of the mods coming out for it these days are just soulless zscript tech demos.

If WhackEd4 does get proper support for MBF21's dehacked features, which Gez seems interested in, we might see more of these pop off. What the other anon asked for was just a graphics patch and you hardly need anything of the sort to make one.

>>11303948
Woof developer is already implementing the weapon parts of it.

>>11303903
More weapon and ammo types is what has me most excited about id24. If only it could keep track of an ammo type different to the one you have active. That would allow for custom inventories.

>>11303498

>>11304095
Blursed

>>11304095
>I am an artist. An Escape Artist

>>11304095
>not putting Billy's head on the guard
so close to greatness

>>11303498

>>11304626
>Oh jeez, I'm 33 now! Where did I put my dentures? What's that? I'm a little deaf in this ear...

Doomguy is presumably in his 20s right? Mid-late 20s maybe? BJ as well probably?

>>11304626
Gold.

I haven't played HD in a while, when did they remove the bible passages from the powerups?

>>11304716
When they were reworked into shield generators instead of holy protection.

>>11304725
Ah fair
Could have sworn the megaspheres had them as well
Whatever, it was a minor detail

>>11304727
That's because megaspheres have always simply been a soulsphere + armor bonus (in the really old days, free black armor; then spiritual armor when that was implemented; now a shield core).

1. Some people were talking about amc squad here and I decided to check it. I am now stuck at the dracula castle stage underwater section, I have no idea where to go or what to do. I simply run out of air in the water and I been through the castle like 10 times already and can't seem to find anything to help
2. Does build have an iddt equivalent or anything to help finding secrets on the map?

>>11304649
your life is practically over once you hit 30, the world belongs to teenagers and people full of youth (20's.)

>>11304814
No. Your 30s are just when people realize the clock's ticking and start to cut the things from their lives that are asinine or trivial, if they haven't already been doing so. That and a 30-whatever is at the perfect blend of life-experience-and-a-youthful-enough-body to be a very efficient human being. BUT THAT'S NOT ABOUT RETRO FPS, IS IT?

Oh, wait. IT IS. DooM is in its 30's. Doom in 2024 has so much content. All that...experience...from...living more than 3 decades...sounds kinda good, don't it?

The whispering in Ad Mortem is driving me insane

>>11305112
Those are the imps in the wall.

>>11305112
Maybe it's bias from it being a 4chan production, but I swear that two of the words in that ambience are sneed and chuck.

>>11304649
As somone soon turning 33, I can confirm that this is 100% accurate.

i keep getting an intermission bug where the fade effect glitches out and everything gets fucked and nothing displays
what do
lzdoom btw

>>11301839

To anyone who's into Shut Up and Bleed, Potetobloke reuploaded a bunch of his weapon add-ons for it.

>https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=60347

>>11305112
That's because it's some shitty ass freesounds crap instead of pulling it from some horror game - Penumbra has a really nice whispering ambient that appears often through the story
Still, it's not that important to the wad so I get why no one bothered

Doing a 64 map in case we ever get that project
It's a pretty fun engine

>>11301839
New version of MAP16: Suburban Heat Island, by aan. Hopefully this is a little less obtuse and more easily navigable. Please let me know what you guys think of the changes, and if anyone has any suggestions I'm all ears.

https://files.catbox.moe/70ohbj.wad

>>11302531
Kex
(Kek)

>>11301954
What wad is this?

>>11305398
ASMR in general just irritates the hell out of me

>>11303135
Project Horror for Doom

Does such a thing as Doom 64: Maps Only version exists?
I want to play the levels with default or custom Doom PC weapons, items, and monsters. I can live without the
Unmaker. Maybe I would keep the Mother Demon.

>>11305456
I liked the beavis and butthead bit on it
https://youtu.be/hBe7IV4hpig

>>11305402
I still find it incredible that at now we have an official pc doom64 iwad and that we can make pwads for it.

>>11305443
>>11301982
Looks like Hellforged with Heretic and Hexen.
>>11305462
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=55298
This might be what you're looking for? There's a version of PSX Doom there that's stripped down as well.

>>11305462
Doom 64 for Doom II. The OG monsters are all the same except the motherdemon (who replaces the spiderdemon) and the nightmare imp (I think he replaces the Icon of Sin or the SS soldier).

>>11305462
Well there is Doom 64 For Doom 2 megawad. Since it's for vanilla there is no Unmaker and maps are in bit different slots, but it does have Nightmare Imp and Mother Demon.

>>11305456
>ASMR
For the most part, I'd rather listen to or watch such stuff instead of either content farm videos, or Zgroom forums.

>>11304009
>having to compile your decohack into a dehacked file through is just something of an entry barrier for some reason
I think the bigger barrier is that it's still DeHacked and that DeHacked simply still sucks even when you add a few more things to it and remove the frame and thing limits.

>>11305487
>>11305491
>>11305493
Thank you /vr/others, going to check on those.

>>11305112
wdym? there's no whispering in ad mortem

>>11305583
Don't do this to me

>>11305585
Do what?

On the topic of Doom 64
>>11301839
[10-10] Doom 64 Unseen Evil released, adds missing enemies and 64-ifies Doom 1 and 2 levels
https://pyspy.neocities.org/d64ue/

>>11304626
BJ looks like Captain Murphy from Sealab.

>>11305595

>>11305595
>making the shotgun lever-action
I love it when mods do this.

But seriously though, what did Danny actually win?

>>11303330
Russ Meyer obsessed over big things, and he made boob kino. Therefore you're wrong. q.e.d.

>>11305456
>whispering = ASMR
I won't call you a retard, despite you certainly deserving it, but I advise you to get off the internet now and actually touch grass.

>>11305443
>>11305487
Yep. Playable with the Semi-Universal Raven Patch but for Hexen I copied over the stuff from High Noon Drifter because I think it does it better.

>>11305112
>>11305585
>>11305618
https://youtu.be/HAnXIIv5He8?si=3A8tX4BGe8U-Y480&t=8

>>11305595
That's coold but I feel they didn't go far enough in making the Doom 2 monsters in the 64 style.

>>11305595
this is sick

>>11305609
Lever-action is underrated in general.
Fast, simple, can keep the gun against your shoulder while your supporting hand holds the front of it steady (unlike with pump-action), and if you have a large lever loop you can flip-cock it, which looks badass.

>>11305573
If you think Dehacked sucks you just don't know how to use it and/or have not used anything but GZ.

>>11305656
>not used anything but GZ.
This must be at least like 3/4 of doom players now. I saw some comment on Suplice steam page about it not having jumping like Brutal Doom.

>>11305656
I have used it, and it does suck. The fact that DecoHack exists is a gigantic admission that DeHacked is shit because it's prefaced with a pseudo-Decorate front just to make sense of it.

DeHacked should never have been developed further, it should only have stayed at strictly the vanilla level, so that a sensible coding language could have been used for mid-level ports instead, which could perhaps be a stripped down Decorate (and I don't mean DecoHack), or something else entirely.
Behind the scenes, DeHacked is a bunch of retarded Rube Goldberg bullshit, where trying to add to it is massively fucking bothersome, hence why devs groan about trying to add more features to it.

>>11305661
Supplice is a fucking GzDoom mod, why doesn't it have jumping?

>>11305669
I assume the devs didn't design the maps with jumping in mind, so it was probably disabled.

>>11305669
Because GZDoom has the commercial license but they wanted to make something like a limit-removing megawad like BTSX, Eviternity etc from that era.

>>11305661
I don't mind what port people use but I think I'll never make anything for GZ, honestly. Zandronum, sure, but not GZ. Too many idiots use it and think everything else is worthless.

By the way, if you feel like being silly you can cockblock GZtards by putting a scrolling texture special before a switch.

>>11305668
Cry about it. Go back Brutal HDoom MyHouse Warfare, tourist.

>>11305668
Dehacked is cool and there's cool wads that use it. Decorate and zscript are cool and there's cool wads/mods that use them. Stop trying to stir up this gzdoom vs the world shit again. I use nugget/woof for vanilla/boom/mbf wads and gzdoom for gzdoom wads and mods. Just like I use zandronum, legacy or eternity for some stuff that is made for them. All ports are good.

>>11305682
Good post.

>>11305679
So out of curiosity, what have you made thus far?

>>11305679
Not him, but MyHouse from the listed is actually good. Sure it lured some retards to play Doom, but not as much as br00tal d00m.

>>11305668
Was dehacked ever meant to be edited by hand? Decohack is great because it allows you to make dehacked stuff without needing to worry about any sort of UI.

>>11303519
Online Multiplayer for Wolfenstein 3D would be sick.
>>11303563
Thanks for reminding me that I still gotta play Quake.
>>11305456
>Whispering = ASMR
Are you retarded anon? Go touch grass and fuck off.
>>11305656
I'm not the anon you are bitching at but I have never made a mod before so how the fuck do I know about making Dehacked shit?
>>11305661
I reserve jumping for mods that make use of it like Treasure Tech.

>>11305684
For bigger stuff, Eraser. It's a Boom compatible single level partial conversion, think Maskim Xul but less technically impressive and also inspired by Blame! in various ways.

I got some smaller stuff on the backburner, sometimes I post them here for feedback. Current projects are an episode made for Sun Damage Omen and a Decohack mod where you play as a pissed off skeleton.

Long term project right now is an MBF21 survival horror total conversion inspired by Signalis but with no horny lesbian gommunism bullshit. That one's just a pile of concepts at the moment.

>>11305686
MyHouse is fine, really. It got me to start mapping for good.

>>11305703
You all look the same and reading post IDs is usually not necessary. Sometimes I fuck up.

>>11305695
It was never meant to be edited with hand. There were dos based editors from the start. "Dehacked bad" anon is certified retard for trying notepad the shit out of dehacked. That's like trying to make a map by writing hex code.

>>11305679
I'm not even espousing GzDoom here, you cocksucking fuckhead. God, you're retarded.

>>11305682
>Dehacked is cool and there's cool wads that use it.
Yes, but they exist in spite of it. Batman Doom is a master crafted TC because they figured out how to do all that wild and inventive shit with just DeHacked.

My argument here is NOT that GzDoom and Decorate is better than DeHacked, and should be used instead. My argument that we shouldn't have to fucking do any of this DeHacked shit just to do a mod or TC, that there should be another option BESIDES GzDoom if you want something more advanced.
MBF21 sort of does this for us, and you can do a lot cool things with it, but it still has DeHacked's shitty baggage attached to it, which means getting new arguments and features for it is like pulling teeth.
What if I want to add alternate attacks to weapons? What if I want to make the Berserk pack affect the fists in more ways than it currently can? What if I want to make Berserk affect all the weapons, or make separate powerups which affect different weapons in different ways? What if I want to add new weapons or ammo types? I cannot do any of that shit with DeHacked, and good luck asking devs to add any of that to DeHacked.

ID24 promises to allow for SOME of these things, but not all, and it's an unfinished hunk of shit which only a single dev is willing to tinker with currently. ID24 going for more DeHacked is a gigantic mistake which puts more roadblocks into leaving DeHacked alone and having a true universal coding format for modding.

>>11305723
>Yes, but they exist in spite of it. Batman Doom is a master crafted TC because they figured out how to do all that wild and inventive shit with just DeHacked.
So? Everything only exists in spite of something else. Limitations breed creativity.

>>11305720
That's not the point, NOBODY has ever read or written DeHacked straight, it's that DeHacked is a limited dead end which should have stayed vanilla.

>>11305686
Yah the difference is one's a postmodern David Lynch type horror while the other 2 listed are a power fantasy and just shock value

>>11305730
Assembly is a limited dead end, we should ditch it completely. Compiliers are only a bandaid fix.

>>11305735
This is a retarded analogy because assembly isn't a pile of shitty gross hacks which people are asking devs to add more features to.

>>11305735
Humans are a limited dead end, embrace the incoming robot revolution

>>11305737
If it works, it works.

>>11305738
That sounds like something a robot would say.

>>11305723
>What if I want to add alternate attacks to weapons?
You use GZ.

>What if I want to make the Berserk pack affect the fists in more ways than it currently can?
You use GZ.

>What if I want to make Berserk affect all the weapons, or make separate powerups which affect different weapons in different ways?
You use GZ.

>What if I want to add new weapons or ammo types?
You use GZ.

Blame this on ZDoom and its family winning the port race. It set the standard and now everyone and their mother uses it and expects its features to be present in other ports. Decohack not being so full of fancy tricks makes it better because it forces you not to be an idiot and actually come up with new ways to do things.

>>11305730
>DeHacked is a limited dead end which should have stayed vanilla.
Whatever helps you sleep at night, little clucker-sucker. The same has been said of Decorate, ACS and Zscript by a lot of mouthbreathers, you're just another one.

>>11305723
It's not like mbf21 and id24 are end of dehacked, it will get developed and some day you might be able to make Quad Damage with it. Id24 will get finished eventually and it's still made by same guys as mbf21 minus kraf, so it will get finished "unofficially" even if it didn't get finished for kex port. Id24 has custom weapons, ammo types and huds. Basically then you can do alt attack by having the weapon in two slots. And if you don't want use gzdoom or dehacked, there is still eternity and it's edf code. It's like you are looking for reasons to complain even though there is none.

>>11305746
You could use Zandronum for all that stuff you answered too. Unless you file that under GZ as well, I always personally consider Zandronum to be ZDoom rather than GZdoom, given how behind the times it is.

>>11305747
Being able to keep track of and manipulate a different ammo type would allow for custom powerups to be created. That is just about all I can think of to realistically add to ID24. Alt fires would be nice, but less likely because that would require control settings to be changed.

>>11305749
Custom huds allow you to keep track of all custom ammo types you create.

>>11305748
I don't, it's because a lot of these types are also the ones to say Zandro's not worth using because it's old and outdated (read: doesn't support ZScript).

Zandro's pretty cool. Learning how to make a mod in Decohack made me want to make one for Zandro too, nothing crazy, just a nice weapon set.

>>11305746
>You use GZ.
FUCK that.

>Decohack not being so full of fancy tricks makes it better because it forces you not to be an idiot and actually come up with new ways to do things
Or not doing things at all, because it can't do them,

>Whatever helps you sleep at night, little clucker-sucker.
You really are retarded and cannot read.

>>11305747
>It's not like mbf21 and id24 are end of dehacked
Alright, ask all the devs besides Fabian to add ID24 support, and while you're at it, ask them to add more bounce types, or the ability to make proper ceiling mounted enemies.
Or alternate attacks.

>>11305709
>Eraser
sooo this is you then? >>11305679

>>11305751
I meant being able to check, add, or remove custom ammo types for unrelated weapons. (I think) That's not something ID24 will support. Making a custom HUD isn't the issue.
It would also allow for demon keys and similar items to make nonlinear weapon upgrades.

>>11305752
I've used Zandronum for quite awhile, though I regret it in some ways as I usually run into a weird roadblock or two that bars me from using a simple solution to a problem I have, usually a single flag or extra function that Zandy lacks.

Tangling with online Zandronum is a totally separate engine too and a constant source of ball-aches. I don't know how people pull that shit off because even after all of my efforts, there's still a lot of oddities and visual glitches in my mods when played online. It pisses me off.

>>11305709
It's alright.
>>11305734
I always thought it felt like a Goosebumps book made for Doom players.

>>11305748
>>11305752
Zandybam doesn't even work with UMAPINFO and they refused to even update their Decorate from its old incomplete 2010s state.

>>11305753
Woof and Nugget are confirmed to get id24 support. That's all I need. You can request new features when mbf27 or something like that comes.

>>11305757
Yes, Zandronum is fucking bullshit, the only reason it has any userbase at all is because it's the only way to have anything GzDoom-like but with non-shit multiplayer.

>>11305764
I think the creator confirmed that it's inspired by House Of Leaves.

>>11305754
Sure is me. It's (mostly) banter, I just hate seeing people treat other forms of modding like they can't be used for making good shit too.

>>11305757
At best I'd make it SP-focused and if someone else wants to tangle that, they're welcome to. Hell, making something for Zandro sounds fun on its own now that I know how Decorate (sort of) works.

>>11305765
UMAPINFO isn't universal is just like an old tired joke at this point. I don't really care about what features this or that port has, if I can make something cool for it I'm happy.

>>11305768
Is Nugget confirmed to get it? I know it's a Woof fork, but he could just ignore those commits.

>>11305774
>I just hate seeing people treat other forms of modding like they can't be used for making good shit too.
Where did I ever say that?

>>11305770
He never confirmed anything because he's pulling a Kikiyama, but it's extremely obvious. It namedrops Navidson, highlights every instance of house in blue text like the book, and even has a soft-remake of the actual maze from the book.

>>11305769
I like to play Zandro's invasion mods in single player. Good old mindless fun. Those Quake 3 style single player campaigns against bots are good fun also.

>>11305769
Every multiplayer-centric port sucks.

>>11305776
It was definitely aimed at the fucknugget saying Dehacked sucks.

>>11305779
They are (because they were originally made for Skulltag), but they would be even better if the Decorate was at the very least complete so that those fucking things could be played with all kinds of amazing Decorate mods which are out there.

>>11305781
Odamex is good. It's like Woof but with slopes and multiplayer.

>>11305783
How can you struggle so much with reading comprehension? Have you been diagnosed for dyslexia?

>>11305774
>UMAPINFO isn't universal is just like an old tired joke at this point.
It's more universal than UDMF.

>>11305784
Well some invasion mods have been attached with some gameplay mods like Complex Doom Invasion. It's very fucking fun invasion mod btw.

Cant check at the moment,does anyone knows if this also converts TNT/plutonia textures?

https://youtu.be/Jzc6wVXM57U?si=mL0DfFryImAPlB_m

>>11305794
Prolly not.

>>11305774
Maybe seek therapy instead of deciding to lash out at random anons as a band-aid fix for your mental episodes

anybody got actinia rc3 on hand?

>>11305847
>https://rentry.org/vrdepot
It's here

>>11305847
nvm it's in the op

>>11305723
Daily reminder that it did take 15 years for zdoom to add custom power-up effects that you describing to decorate. Skulltag did the custom power-up effects first.

It's actually incredible that you can do now more with dehacked than you could do with decorate at 2004. I wonder how evolved boom derived ports are 20 years from now on. We might eventually have demo compatible udmf maps with slopes and even some light acs.

>>11305859
>I wonder how evolved boom derived ports are 20 years from now on
I imagine it'll be like how advanced DSDA, Woof, Nugget, etc would feel to a Doom player in 2004

>>11305859
DSDA already has some limited UDMF support.

>>11305873
>wtf not only there are no 3D models, there even no 3D floors, the fuck is this shit, whatever I'm sticking with Doom Legacy, splitscreen is bitchin'

>NOBODY has ever read or written DeHacked straight
Do you really think that the OG DeHackEd tool just materialized out of the aether, and that the dev(s?) didn't learn to trace code pointers in Doom manually in order to map them to program functions?

>>11305874
Yea, but very limited. You could probably play Herian with it? But not anything else atm. It might stay very limited too, if kraf stops developing dsda after getting banned.

>>11305848
>Fore/vr/ Alone still listed as a beta
Looks like it's time for an update. B)

>>11305886
Seems like the maintainer got bored, the sam and shadow warrior projects are still there when they're super-dead

>>11305882
Saying nobody has ever done it is an obvious exaggeration.

>>11305882
You are right, but not a single mapper has ever used dehacked manually on their wads. Earliest tools for using dehacked were already made on 1994.

>>11305882
Have you ever tried reading a DeHacked patch? Much less tried to write one directly? The very most you can realistically do is to change the names of levels and set PAR times, when it gets to modifying any behaviors it's an incomprehensible list of entries with precious little context attached.

>>11305893
It's hyperbole, but it's effectively true.

>>11305894
Yes, those tools were made so that people would never have to directly hack the .exe themselves.

>>11303563
very slowly

>>11305931
>it's effectively true
Yeah, it's very uncommon for anyone to bother trying to write out a dehacked patch by hand. But I'm sure it's been done before.

>easily readable and writable code format for weapons, monsters, items, objects, and effects
>features like state jumps based on various values like inventory, distance, health values
>different kinds of bounce types which aren't shit
>being able to make ceiling mounted enemies which actually stay put up in the ceiling
>being able to flag some actors so that they are purely cosmetic and don't fuck with the gameplay (for effects)
>being able to define the players and whatever weapons you want from the ground up, and defining ammo types and new powerups and weapon modifiers
>being able to define the status bar from the ground up (in a sensible way, not in an SBARINFO way)
>a better UMAPINFO which can support more things which regular MAPINFO already does
>SNDINFO

GzDoom can do these things, but GzDoom has no demos (that matter, anyway), and it has more demanding system specs. I ain't asking for any ZScript shit here, and my hope would be some actual good multiplayer support some day, which GzDoom will never ever have.

All this dehacked talk got me wanting to look up some stuff people have done, and this seems like a fun boss monster.
https://youtu.be/JCy6ZMpqBvU
Shame about the infighting, but I'm sure that's fixable with MBF21.

>>11305961
It would be pointless. There is nothing to gain. Not even respect. It's like trying complete the first episode with keyboard by using your ballsack instead of your fingers. It would take time, and nobody would applaud you. Instead everyone would just think, why?

>>11305982
It could be done for very small things. It's easier to load up Notepad than it is Whacked. And when I say small, I mean like just changing the health of something.

>>11305894
>but not a single mapper has ever used dehacked manually on their wads
Making absolute statements like that pretty much guarantees you'll be slightly, (dare I say, negligibly) wrong. "Judgement" is a 34 level megawad made by Rayzik which contains extensive mbf21 modification. At about the 39:48 mark of this video he explains how he wrote all the dehacked using notepad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hEUs6d4MIk

As someone who really likes dehacked and has used it extensively, I'll say I like it <i>because</i> it sucks. No one would design a system like it if it weren't conceptually descended from a glorified hex editor running in dos, not even the more advanced versions like mbf21. The only important benefit beyond sucking is greater port compatibility.

>>11305980
Avactor has those flying spider masterminds that shoot bfg balls. Bfg enemies are quite fun to fight. There should be more of them in wads.

>>11305997
Well that's new info for me. I like Judgment. It has the most fun melee weapon that anyone has ever done with dehacked.

>>11301891
I still can't believe he did 1 again for sigil 2. sigil was great but he squeezed that bestiary bone dry.

Doom community seems to think UV is the "default" and then the lower difficulties just have less monsters or more ammo/health so its believed you have to play a wad on UV to get the "true experience" but is that actually true? If you look at E1 the shotgun is a secret in m1 and in the open in m2 but if you play on harder difficulties you can just get them off of Shotgunners in the first level. Same with Doom 2. It feels more like id made the levels on easy mode first to fit continuous play and only then added harder setups for UV.

>>11306017
It actually varies. John Romero for instance designed with HMP as a base, then altered for the other skill levels.

>>11306017
People default to UV because they want to experience everything the map has. It's easy to feel like you're getting "less" when you're on HMP or lower.

>>11306017
>>11306024
Ribbiks notably does this too, UV is the newgame+

People don't use custom map hazards enough in Doom. Hurt floors are cool, but fireball throwers are even cooler.

finished Ad Mortem
finished Unrattled

which /vr/ wad should i play next?

>>11306041
400 minutes of /vr/'s alright, very short maps too

>>11306041
400 Minutes

>>11306042
Short maps, but a lot of them. That project had a really good turnout.

>>11306041
is this ai?

>>11306046
I remember anon's chart saying it took 14 days to develop start to finish too, feels like one huge freak accident allowed it to happen the way it did, especially when you consider Duke Nukem Forever got leaked by the end of its dev time so if it started any later it would have taken a hit

>>11306047
some of those weird orange humans in that pic only have 4 fingers baka

>>11306047
crooked magazine gives it away

>>11306050
All because 94 Protons was running late.

>>11306053
And still is. gg no re

>>11306057
We'll all look like revenants when it releases.

>>11306062
Fun fact, if you don't have "rest in peace" written on your tombstone, you're involuntarily drafted to fight in the great skeleton wars

>>11306065

the ride never ends

are there any good western wads besides A Fistful of Doom and The Magnificent Five?

Lads, been playing Arcane Dimensions with the shotgun pellets...........I kinda like it. Forgive me padre for I have sinned.

>>11306041
2048 units of vr is pretty good, played co-op with a bud and had a blast

>>11306024
Similarly Mouldy has said he balances HMP as the fun difficulty and UV and on as the unreasonably difficult ones.

>>11306186
I also like the pellets, but mostly because that's about the only thing you can do to make the Quake shotguns *feel* more powerful without actually buffing their damage and throwing off balance. It sorta adds a more physical presence to them I suppose.

>>11305970
>I ain't asking for any ZScript shit here
You should be. Prising ZS out of the ZDoom family and getting the wider array of ports able to comprehend it it a far more worthwhile use of anybody's time than building MBF947: Now with "invert specific screen quadrant" function.

Somebody's done another of them Doom 3 in Doom 2 wads, except this time it's like 4 gig of fucking textures.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcP50RASijM

>>11306157
cute!

>>11306260
I thought this would be actually Doom 3 in Doom 2 but it's more like "What if id made Doom 3 in the 1990s" type thing.

Striker mobility nerf when? It's clearly artificially fast offroad.

My dream source port:
>limit removing and Client-Server multiplayer out of the box
>ridiculously powerful in-game console (might even include a text editor you can use to create and save "functions")
>console commands can do all sorts of things, including some very low level engine functions such as moving a specific actor, reading a lump, using variables, or in-game map manipulation.
>obviously, a lot of those commands are "cheats" so you can't do that in multiplayer most of the time.
>However, because these commands are very powerful, they can be used as a scripting language for modding.
>The same way some commands are "cheats" other commands can only be used by players directly to avoid malicious mods (such as changing a player's name or controls).
> because features are implemented at such low level, it doesn't have some very advanced features other ports have, but they can be modded in, so it could potentially support anything by doing so.

>>11303498

what do you guys think of the WolfenDoom wad series, are these worth playing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnoKKsbI1SQ

>>11306260
I hope they release a Maps Only version.

>>11305656
Nigga, Dehacked, and there is no ground for discussion, and everyone but e-peen retards who think using Dehacked gives them clout (just like the "hurr durr pistol starting is the only true way" tards) agrees that Dehacked is absolute fucking shite. People only put up with it because
a) they're used to it
b) because it's been around for a million years
c) it allows "modding" stuff within vanilla limits (the most important point here)

Going by your logic I could also say that if you say GZDoom sucks it's because you are too retarded to understand ZScript and/or ACS and/or UDMF.

t. has done everything from vanilla/dehacked to zscript/udmf

>>11303563
i wouldnt. singleplayer is way better, and quake 3 is better for multi.

>>11306437
>t. has done everything from vanilla/dehacked to zscript/udmf
Same, and mostly agree.
Just want to add that working within dehacked limits is also just kinda fun. Like playing an older less featured game.
If you want to get shit done tho, yeah don't use dehacked. It's kind stupid. Stupid like a fox.

>>11301838
Hello Fellas! I'm a big DOOM fan playing these games for the very first time. So far they're all working fine in GZ and Zandronum but I was trying Nugget out of curiosity and half of my wads won't even load (SIGIL and SIGIL2) or have serious graphical bugs.
Only DOOM and DOOM II are working OK. Is Nugget just a meme or am I doing something wrong? Are there any extra steps to set it up correctly?

any written ultimate doom builder guides i can learn while at work?

>Quake 3
I tried playing Quake Live years on steam and in my first match everyone on my team was dead except me for some reason and they were spectating me and called me a gimp. Never tried it again.

>>11306462
Looks like you're loading Doom 1 wads with Doom 2 as the IWAD. In Chex Quest's case, it's actually its own IWAD and shouldn't be loaded with either Doom 1 or 2. Use a launcher or batch files to specify the right IWAD with the -iwad command line argument.

>>11306485
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/140740-doom-mapping-crash-course-absolute-beginner-mapping-workshop/

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/74073-vanilla-level-editing-lesson-1-preliminary-reconnaissance/

>>11306537
many thanks

>>11303498

>>11305654
So what you're saying is that it's a wrist pump but shit because it needs more space to move.

>>11306667
Oh yeah? Well I'll give YOU a wrist pump.
Wait.

>>11306667
That Burgess shotgun is cool, but the wrist pump it has exists entirely because the conventional pump slide we see on shotguns now was new and still patented at the time, the design has a lot of disadvantages over a lever-action. There's good reasons nobody else did that.

>>11306462
>I'm a big DOOM fan
>playing these games for the first time

>>11306715
>entirely
It's more because a fore-end pump would have to separate when folded, which is a recipe for failures.

>>11306738
Most Burgess shotguns were not folding, I don't know if that was ever a plan in the first place.

>>11306675
If he's not taking it, I'm interested.

>>11306724
He could've started with the modern games, like I did.

>>11306025
Why not simply balance through resource placement? The monster encounters don’t need to change. Where there’s a mega sphere and some health packs on HNTR, there’s only a mega sphere on HMP, and on UV it’s a soul sphere.

>>11305669
>GzDoom mod
No, it's a game

>>11306364
Good luck with the development, anon.

>>11306724
Ever heard of love at first sight?

>>11305703
If it's duel then I'm down for any Quake.

>>11306449
How come? isn't 4 greater than 3?

>>11306186
Seems most/all like them, and I sympathize because I’m one of the few who accepts Copper’s balance ideas. It feels like gibs come easier with pellets as well. If you play Mjolnir you can enable them with the same command from AD: impulse 130

>>11306964
Same thing. You get the training wheels encounter instead of the real thing.

>>11306980
It's a GzDoom mod.

>>11307121
That’s kind of like considering Hexen and Heretic more as “Doom mods” and not individual titles, especially since they also don’t require original Doom files to play.
As far as this thread is concerned, that’s where I’d draw the line between something like a “mod” and “game”.

You just know the dude has issues when he's hiding stuff like this in his mod.

>>11307230
Eww.

>>11307230
what the hell?

>>11307230
Everything I saw in the trailer posted earlier was enough of a red flag, I guess this is the icing on top.

>>11303498

>>11306369
Jej

>>11307419
You don't like maps filled with square rooms?

>>11307036
>How come? isn't 4 greater than 3?
Vanilla, sure, I'm a big fan of sliding myself, but he probably meant CPMA, which makes it harder to say.
Also, Q4Max isn't a substitution for a proper multiplayer source port and could use further tweaks. Considering that making one is in a realm of possibility now, as there are several projects that marry Q4SDK with Doom 3 codebase, there's no excuse for not having one.

>>11307419
It gave me Doomslayer Chronicles vibes (and not in a good way), and having played some of it, it's like it has decent ideas in the maps but dogshit execution.

>>11307472
>Doomslayer Chronicles
oh no no no
but seriously I agree. It just has that look of the maker having really bad taste. Kind of like those Unreal engine survival games on steam made by one guy and they think it will sell more than Core Keeper because it's 3D!

>>11306260
Another clueless newbie gzdoom wad. At least we have dsDoom3, Rising and that DBP for all Doom 3 in Doom 2 needs.

>>11303498

>>11307472
There are just so many gzdoom maps that have level design of mediocre/bad 1995 wad with the only exception being the addition of dynamic lights, slopes, high res rextures, room over room and imported 3d models. Of course there are some good maps too, but generally I tend to stay out gzdoom maps that have not received cacoward/runner-up/honorable mention, because that usually means that they are not worth even trying. DavidN's maps howerer are good even though they have not received attention cacowards: Keeper Of The Seven Keys, Ascent Of Titan, Phobian Odyssey. He at least knows how to make good gameplay.

>>11307558
>33-DD
>DD

WOLFENSTEIN DOUBLE-D

>>11307562
It'd have to be a weird ass sidescroller like that Serious Sam game.

>>11306524
Thanks, that was the problem, now I'm using shortcuts with the -iwad and the -file parameters and SIGIL 1 & 2 are working fine. Chex 3 still crashes like a mofo. Fuck Nugget, I'll be sticking to GZ and enjoy some motherfucking DOOM.

>>11307580
Chex Quest 3 is a Zdoom wad, so it's not going to work in Nugget unless you're using this version:
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/143907-rc41-chex-quest-3-vanilla-edition/

>>11307560
I don't know if dump ever got any awards but Dump3(at least the levels I played) was pretty nice and it's all udmf. Not all levels in that set use any features of usmf but some of them do and it's usually refreshing, like that bouncy castle map, or the quake one.

>>11306462
>>11307580
I'm having 4 separate woof folders for all different iwads myself. It saves me lot of time.

>>11307596
Oh I forgot the dump series. They are quite fun, and worth playing imo. Sure they are mostly newbie maps, but that's the point this time, so it works. Have you played ramp series? I haven't because the amount of maps terrifies me.

>>11307560
>DavidN's maps howerer are good even though they have not received attention
Few people can tolerate the bitter furfag long enough to even give them a look.
>>11307596
Kinsie's map from Dump 3 is pretty fucking great.

>>11301838
Why are there so many gross troons in the doom community?

>>11307610
kf is that way
<--

>>11307618
wtf is kf you gross troon
how many troon faggots in this general?

>>11307610
The average person playing a crusty old FPS game like DOOM is probably on the spectrum, if not a nostalgic boomer.

>>11307610
I don't care and neither should you. Only thing makes me respect a member of community is the fact that they contribute and make quality content. I have no need to give plus or minus points based on their race, gender, sexual orientation or hobbies. It would be boring as fuck. If you don't make quality content, you have less value to me than some of those trans mappers.

>>11307626

>>11307640
spotted a troon

>>11307640
you should care you stupid zoomer. Troons are degenerate pedophiles, every last one of them. They are all fucking perverts. I know you think you're all special and altruistic for accepting them but really you're just a stupid oversocialised fucking idiot.

>>11307610
Same as with coders. Autism gone wrong.

/pol/ is leaking again

>>11301838
Nothing personal, the asshole enemy.

>>11307036
if Q4MAX had come earlier, Q4 would had been saved

>>11307648
Straight, white, male, christian and proud. Sorry to dissappoint you. Unironically you might be one, closeted, since you obsess over them so much, and care about mappers' personal life drama which is in fact a femine trait. When I play Abscission, I think that it is quite cool dtwid like wad, not mapper's genitals since I'm not homosexual.

>>11307662
ok troon

>>11307649
I'm not accepting or not accepting, I'm just not thinking about, because it does not interest me. Homosexuality is not my personal problem, so I have no need or longing to think homosexual things. If you think all day about trans sexuals, you are a pervert yourself. Good thing is that, I won't judge your perversions either. If you make great Doom content, I respect you too.

>>11307662
trying too hard, should have thrown in conservative and rural

>>11307668
ok troon

>>11307670
I'm not american. Being white straight christian guy is not weird thing here. My country does not have lot of trans sexuals, so we don't "oppose" them by wanking off to them. We simply don't think about them, as we don't think any sheep fuckers or shit eaters either. We think women and our hobbies like healthy men do. This is of course weird for american who masturbates to gay porn to "fight the left".

>>11307683
>Grammar suddenly shifts to a shitty approximation of an ESL despite not being present in any previous posts
more and more embarrassing with every post mate

Nice derail.

I'm too busy trying to make the flashes light the gun properly, i really have no clue how to make them and I keep running into the wall trying to do it.

broke: mapping to make a Quake level
woke: mapping to make comfy houses

>>11307657
It can't be as bad as the Parasites or GZ's Stalkers, right?
>t. Hasn't played the PS1 version.

>>11307712
He spawns Stalkers, and his Railgun Shots are pinpoint, and he is tanky

>>11301838
Whatever happened to pic related, I get that it's forbidden knowledge but my curiosity is too much. Did it ever get finished / updated since 2016? My inner data hoarder needs the answer since it's rare and will probably only get rarer.

>>11307603
>Have you played ramp series? I haven't because the amount of maps terrifies me.
Never tried it, I guess the number of maps wouldn't bother me because you can just choose which ones to play, it's a variety pack
I heard it's got some schizo's maps that a lot of people were talking about here

>>11307648
>>11307649
Fuck off tourists. If you didn't make a map better than some axewound psycho I don't give a fuck what you think I should do, this is a doom thread - make maps, discuss/shitpost old fps games or shut up. I don't want any e-drama faggotry in here

coomers vs trooners

the final battle

>>11307657
By the way, Same energy with that fucking face of his.

>>11307715
>Railgun shots are pinpoint
Evil. Challenge accepted, hope it’s not too bullshit. Can they be juked like Mission 64 gladiator shots?
>AMD 0S

I saw Open Fortress has an official crossover map with Tomb Fetus and I thought "oh it's finally out?" but it turns out it was supposed to release in 2023 then got delayed to 2024 which we're nearing the end of and it's still not out

>>11307748
this grinning motherfucker can tank rocket launcher shots to the face and even play on your mistakes

>>11307802
Frankly though, just give me more Q2 maps with them as enemies, even Oblivion with them and the Tonk if someone remakes that model.

>>11305723
>DeHacked's shitty baggage
It's not DeHacked shitty baggage. It's Doom shitty baggage. The only good thing Doom has is simplicity of mapping for it. For everything else - it's easier and better to just code a new engine that will support everything from scratch without any gay OOP shit. Just a simple set of Game Maker - type rules which you can substitute with a simple and easy to learn progressive code.

>>11307626
Kiwi Farms is down the hall, third door on the right.

>>11307716
>one of the computers is a burning pile of rubble
What happened?

>>11307794

>>11307630
>implying autism is the only reason that people become afflicted with GID.

>>11307836
Angry 90s apple fan.

>>11307850
lol

>>11307230
Hard disagree, my guy. This is clearly Cacoward material.

Damn they are going even harder than we are on it
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/148659-doom-iii-doom-ii-mod-release/

>>11307920
>11 years in the making
>Is full of dated gameplay AND culture
Damn we got a Duke Nukem Forever on our hands here lol

Somebody's selling a fork of Odamex bundled with FreeDoom on Steam, lol.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3100730/Zugnaex/

>>11307920
>2: The original images does have the panties out, which was not really what was looked for. the pants were added in photoshop, look at Crash Portrait for the origin of the pants.
Man the OP talking about such retarded subject matter in a customer service voice completely sincerely is hilarious to me

>>11307716
not updated. breaks most mods you pair with it. this wad is purely for the novelty of columbine

someone needs to make a proper shooter drill megawad with different locations and such

maybe this was already done and i am a pleb?

>>11307927
precisely how sketchy is this

>>11307927
should we report this on steam? i dont fully understand the situation but I assume this guy is selling something that isnt his

>>11307465
nope. i never said anything about cpma. im talking about QUAKE 3 ARENA. and QUAKE 3 REVOLUTION. and QUAKE ARENA ARCADE.

>>11307986
Legally it's probably fine, you can sell Freedoom, I assume Odamex is GPL as well or some shit, apparently they're promising to post the source changes though I'm doubtful on that.

Shit's probably just slimy more than illegal.

>>11307927
>obvious AI description
are they even trying? i like the UI tho. looks comfy. "Doom battle zone" sounds like something you'd read in the program of a 90s dwango rip-off.

>>11308025
Third worlders do this shit all of the time with other FOSS software. Hard to call them scammers when it's normally legal, but it is taking advantage of retard naivete.

>>11308020
Then you are objectively wrong and it's worse than Q1, Q2, Q4 and QL for multiplayer.
CPMA is what makes Q3 really good.

>>11307947
The part where he's accusing the players of being a sissy for using the character he added in and then hid is hilarious.

Also he fucking lifted the artwork for that shit from Tumblr too, lol.
https://king-of-teeth.tumblr.com/post/624270516712308736/doom-but-cute

>>11308063
What if it's all a joke

Nigga is selling Doom 3 soap

>>11308081
I hope that's the health bonus.

>>11308081
>45 kromer

>>11308081
Cacodemon soap works great. It keeps those balls fresh all day long.

how do i get am_cheat 2 working trough launch parameters?
i type am_cheat 2 and nothing happens
i do -am_cheat 2 and nothing happens
the wiki makes it sound like you have to prefix it with -iddt but that also does nothing
i just want to see the monsters in the automap

>>11308136
how about +am_cheat 2

>>11308138
it worked but theres a bunch of random actors buzzing around like flies nonstop around my character
maybe its the mod im using (redspiral93)

>>11308146
Happens with a lot of mods that use shit like that for effects.

>>11308025
>>11308036
Were there any "sleazy but legal" situations related to the thread or board and what's generally the reaction to this. My brain is too sleep-deprived to really think of something right now, but logical answer for me right now seems to be "generally people throw shit in the direction of the one being sleazy, but some might try justifying it like 'the other party is worse' or some shit like it.

you know looking at how customizable the automap seems to be i dont get why that hotline uac guy didnt just do the mod on the automap, i was surprised to see sprites for all actors on it the first time i tried it and that minimap mod even lets you see projectiles

>>11308081
the salt balance has to be just right, so the best fat for making soap comes from demons

>>11301853
>feel guy
>port doom

>>11303498

>>11308194
>Tom and the Jerries

>>11305753
>FUCK that.
why?

>>11308249
He might just not want to use GZ, it's a valid enough. Shame he has to post like a crazy person about it.

Who's playing Zugnaex tonight

>>11306369
there. I overworked it

>>11308340
forgot pic

>>11308346
>1942
>hiding gold bars all over your castle
>I seriously hope you guys don't do this

>>11308265
I wonder if he'd be more into it if someone told him to use Eternity, Edge, Vavoom or any other "advanced" port that likely has what he wants.

>>11308358

Any anons here familiar with mbf21 mapping that can tell me examples of interesting stuff you can do with it?
I'm making a shitty beginner map and I'm not quite getting what I can do with the format.
I've made UDMF maps before and I enjoy the freedom zdoom gives, but mbf21 seems to just be doom format with extra line specials?
Maybe it's something to do with decorate or dehacked, idk.

>>11308546
MBF21 also has some extra sector effect specials.

>>11304095
>I'm hired by people to sabotage Nazi plans...
>Deep. Dark. Nazi plans.

So I checked the mbf21 spec and it seems like outside of generalized sector effects and a few scroller linedef effects that mbf21 is mostly for people doing hyper specific decohack stuff?
So if I, a dogshit mapper, just want to make a map with some linedef/sector bells and whistles then there's no real reason to use mbf21 outside of specific ports being used?
Like you would just use boom or udmf or something if you were after specifically mapping features?

>>11308584
Pretty much. Unless you really want linedefs that block only land monsters or sectors that instakill monsters.

>>11308620
makes sense. I was originally only using the format for a community project on a different board that fell through so I'll probably just go back to udmf and try to figure out how to use the stair tool properly. Seeing "auto curve" in the options for that tool was like witnessing man discover fire

>>11308584
It's just Boom 2, really. Some people like it, some people don't, nothing else to it.

I like it, UDMF never really stuck with me because it has way too many options I never justify using and I make simpler maps anyway. I can bang out a good Boom/limit removing map in two days, UDMF takes upwards of a week.

best rpg mod?

>>11308756
https://github.com/WNC12k/DoomRPG-Rebalance
basically makes a doom wad play like E.Y.E where you can replay levels and grind if you want to. If you really want to you could play multiple wads with the same character save
I haven't tried it with any monster replacer except colorful hell where it becomes a DBZ shitfest of red/white/black demons that deal hundreds of damage just for standing in the same zipcode vs. your regenerating 1000 HP shield by map 30

obviously it's not perfect, the "energy" stat from doomrpg feels useless because energy points regenerate too slowly for active abilities to be useful, but it adds more progression to DRLA than finding assembly kits and an indestructable armor

>>11308778
sounds fun. i'll give it a try

>>11308742
>2days to a week
Anon senpai, how do I learn this power of not taking fucking forever to make a map?

>>11308816
Adderall

>>11308816
i hear coke helps

>>11308816
Put on your earbuds, choose some music you like, close every other program and just start laying down lines as fast as you can. You can always fix and adjust things later of course and the maps probably won't be very long, but aim for a 6 map long WAD.

Most of my last maps have been made while listening to maidcore. If you want recommendations:
>Yakui the Maid
>Chikoi the Maid
>Takai the Maid

Don't forget that mapping is a skill. Try your best long enough and you'll get good, anon kouhai.

>>11307920
>3.8gb

>>11308584
MBF21 as a map format is Boom/MBF but with some well needed additional features and bugfixes. It also has a DeHacked where they added some more functions and you don't have to hack up existing monsters and frames, you can just create new actors, new frames, new sounds, and everything that already exists can be intact.

>>11308816
Like the other dudes say, prescription crank pills and caffeine.
Choose a texture set if you want to, think of some maps you enjoyed playing and how you can learn from their gameplay concepts, put on some music you like, and get motherfucking grinding.

>>11308886
>not using instant coffee and just dumping 4x as much of it into the cup

>>11307920
>>11308863
>4gb for THIS shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7fNblzYfD4

Is Serious Sam allowed here