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07th Expansion Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 15:54:29 No.19428739 [Reply] [Original]

Umineko Episode 9 and what appears to be WTC5 announced for this winter. What do we think of Cravat-kun?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 15:57:02 No.19428755 File: 101 KB, 960x543, tumblr_p19uvxYUSz1wtsofio1_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finally all the foreshadowing and clues will pay off. Can't believe people have believed Yasu existed all these years.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 16:06:23 No.19428812 File: 144 KB, 611x829, sad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19428755 Lmao rosatricefags really have 0 dignity.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 16:11:23 No.19428850 Source for OP, for anyone wondering: https://twitter.com/07th_official/status/1018148111254896642

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 16:11:38 No.19428853 >>19428755 Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

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>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 16:17:26 No.19428898 File: 24 KB, 534x400, 0b3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19428880 Rosatrice is fucking dogshit but the first image in the image (woo~) it's from a pretty fun video. >>19428755

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 18:36:56 No.19429807 File: 724 KB, 1227x1177, happygrandpa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Do you realize what this means? This winter we'll hopefully see Beatrice's smile one more time.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 18:57:48 No.19429915 File: 174 KB, 928x608, cravat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] GUY OR GIRL

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 19:01:53 No.19429931 Is mayonnaise a persona?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 19:06:05 No.19429950 >>19429915 Going by R07 trap logic, the more gentle they are, the more likely they have a feminine benis So Cravat-kun has a masculine pussy

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 19:07:47 No.19429957 >>19429915 >When the oo cry What did he mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 19:08:16 No.19429961 >>19429957 Title not final Please let it not be "humans"

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 19:16:53 No.19430000 >>19429961 It's "THE EYES".

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 19:22:14 No.19430032 File: 3 KB, 126x96, 1280412608435.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Please explain to me how this reasoning is valid holy shit. This is NOT what ryukishi is intending at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 19:27:33 No.19430052 >>19430032 What reasoning What are you talking about

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 19:50:55 No.19430178 >>19429957 This is how Japanese tend to blank out words, I'm so excited to learn what the name is.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 19:55:22 No.19430211 >>19430178 >when /jp/ cries

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 20:02:00 No.19430241 He said the title would be a spoiler in and of itself which is why hes waiting to reveal till the last moment so I doubt it'll be something vague and open like cicadas or seagulls were. Itd have to be something closely related with the story itself.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 20:17:53 No.19430316 >Duncantrice thinks that his theory will be right lmao i can't wait to laught at his bullshit again.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 20:19:45 No.19430329 Satoko is an adult! what a winner!

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 20:44:56 No.19430441 >>19430316 inb4 it is and everything become a 4 years long shitstorm muh french symbolism will now be finnish-ed finnish-ed finnish-ed finnish-ed finnish-ed finnish-ed finnish-ed finnish-ed finnish-ed

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 21:00:41 No.19430528 Will dai and zts be back? When They Cry's biggest punch is the music.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 21:06:20 No.19430560 >>19430528 >When They Cry's biggest punch is the music. The OST is masterful but no, it's the metafictional setup and characters. One could arguably say world building considering the meta elements tho

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 21:08:05 No.19430570 >>19430560 More than that, his absolute domination of every single plot device in his gigantic ass story should be more recognized. My vote definitely goes for storytelling.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 21:11:14 No.19430591 >>19430560 >>19430570 The pacing and overall writing is so poor that I wouldn't have even managed to read that later part of the story without the music

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 21:16:04 No.19430630 File: 486 KB, 800x450, 76-2535.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19430591 You will need a better bait anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 21:17:48 No.19430638 >>19430630 I'm not baiting, the first two hours of Umineko are such a slog that Hope ver 1.00 was the only reason I stuck with it

Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 21:19:02 No.19430644

>>19430591
The writing is great, just a tad repetitive sometimes, but most of them is on purpose and it shows. Not Mareni levels of complexity or poetic prose (it doesn't need to anyway, and EP7 had its share of that, theatrically), but his dominance of his own narrative and presentation is what makes him the superior writer.

The pacing is pretty fine considering the amount of content overall too. The only badly paced Episode is most likely EP4, and only for the sudden narrative shifts here and there, which were justifiable enough.

Arguably EP1's beginning too, in a minor scale, but that's more of an overly long multi character establishment that served its purpose to get you to know the fucking enourmous cast enough to suffer in the first 20+ hours episode).

Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 21:20:08 No.19430647

>>19430316
In the Facebook group he posted a part of his theory.

Enjoy.

Duncan Sproat The shkanontrice interpretation of Ep 7 doesn't have/include love.
Love is GOD.
There are so many things to say but I'll start with this :
- a crime was commited and someone has to pay.
- everyone is put in purgatorio until they find the true culprit
-the problem is that everyone has to be saved in order to open the door to the golden land (aka Eden, aka Palace of Versailles)
- in order to solve this, they have to create a fake character who will play the role of "scapegoat" and be put in hell ----> Yasu = Jesus (sacrificing for the sinners)
-No one has to be the true culprit, Happy ending

That's what is said in Ep 7 + 8

Shannon=Kanon=Yasu was a hint toward the holy trinity and the fact that God is hidding a story.
God is sending his angels (St Bernard and Gabriel for the moment) to bring chaos and hide a fragile truth behind the several existing tales (Yasu is the culprit/ K and R are the culprit/ Eva is the culprit)

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 21:21:35 No.19430658 >>19430644 Don't reply to the obvious goat, they obviously didn't keep up with our analysis and rereads through the years. You will only attract more of them here getting baited like this.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 21:21:58 No.19430666 >>19430638 >first two hours Thats literally nothing? A mere fragment of the whole. Are you saying if it werent for the music you would have dropped it after that small amount of time?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 21:25:33 No.19430687 >>19430647 That's the biggest asspull ever, but as a fanfic sounds really cool actually.

Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 21:25:55 No.19430690

>>19430647
It continues to make absolutely no sense whatsoever, why do you guys still care, honestly.

>>19430658
Better to bring them to our side as well, most of us also were hateful goats for the longest time after the first reading until we actually read through the whole thing again after some years.

Give them a chance.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 21:26:42 No.19430694 >>19430666 First impressions, darling. The hook is important to readers. It means "don't waste my time".

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 21:29:13 No.19430703 >>19429915 Female mc high doubt

Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 21:30:37 No.19430710

>>19430694
You better not read most of the classics in literature then. Mob Dick particularly will make you study marine biology for hours before it gets anywhere for example.

Les Miserables has descriptions to a fucking wall that take 3 pages long by the beginning of it too.

They are all considered masterpieces regardless. Learn to judge something as a whole instead of nitpicking a slow burn start. You are welcomed to drop the book if you so wish, but not to criticize the content as a whole just because of the small fragment you read and didn't enjoy.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 21:33:20 No.19430726 File: 356 KB, 640x480, umineko_in_one_screenshot_by_intellectualrapist-d4b0z0m.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] farts

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 21:34:56 No.19430739 >>19430694 First impressions only matter for fags with a short attention span and lack any will to work towards a stort. Ive never dropped a single vn, anime, book, or movie in my life. Once I start it, I commit.

Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 21:35:07 No.19430741

>>19430644
>>19430710
Sometimes I forget how many people from /lit/ are avid Umineko fans in /jp/.

Glad to see you guys are always around to comment stuff like this and writing in general in most 07th Expansion threads. /a/ and other intruders aren't nearly as endearing to discuss with.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 21:35:21 No.19430742 >>19430710 The Count of Monte Cristo picks up hella fast.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 21:36:19 No.19430751 >>19430742 He did said "most". Also, Monte Cristo is my favorite book, nice taste, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 21:45:53 No.19430798 >>19430710 I read the whole thing, anon. The pacing isn't very consistent throughout, each VN has some pretty annoying dead weight areas. I'm saying that the music made up for that.

Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 22:01:31 No.19430883

>>19430798
The way you said it sounded like you just dropped at the first hours, dude. Or at the very least, stopped paying attention from there on.

Anyway, I also think the only poorly paced EP was the forth one, I didn't quite had issues with the storytelling of any other EPs outside that one.

The others got me actively thinking the whole time and trying to fit the pieces of the puzzle together in quite a bombastic fashion. I admit the music is one great thing that paired up amazingly well with the presentation overall, but to say the pacing was unbearable in any way to the point of you just chosing to read through for the OST alone is kinda ridiculous.

Don't seems like we read the same thing at all. Though I'm not one to judge someone's tempo be it for music or a book's flow.

If you find it dragging to your tastes, I guess tastes are tastes in that regard. Although I do find funny you said that about the later half of it, which is the one with the most intense shit and numerous revealings and twists happening every single chapter, almost.

If anything, most of the complains I hear about Chiru is that the pacing became at times too fast to keep track of -in fact, most of the rereaders of it notice a lot of narrative traps they didn't even bat an eye in the first reading, like Erika's unreliable perspective in EP5-

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 22:09:06 No.19430920 >>19430883 >Erika's unreliable perspective in EP5- That was a big trap in EP5, it was incredible.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 22:36:43 No.19431085 >>19430741 Too bad /lit/ is awful.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 23:34:19 No.19431504 Looks like I'll need to find my hard drive and prepare for an Umineko VN marathon again once this releases.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 14, 2018 23:47:26 No.19431587 How long will it take for it to get translated?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 00:21:41 No.19431768 >>19431587 five minutes

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 00:52:42 No.19431923 File: 499 KB, 1280x1770, IMG_20180714_235142.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I cant believe Im Virgilia

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 01:01:59 No.19431951 WITCH HUNTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 01:15:57 No.19431996 https://twitter.com/higu_dai/status/1018241872857186304 Dai is working on the music!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 01:19:57 No.19432009 File: 422 KB, 1617x1200, DiHJX6CU0AILVR4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 01:21:41 No.19432017 Just woke up. What happened?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 01:23:42 No.19432024 >>19431923 WHY AM I MARIA? WHY DOES INFP ALWAYS GET THE SHITTIEST CHOICES? I HATE BEING INFP SO FUCKING MUCH.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 01:51:18 No.19432165 >>19431923 >tfw Maria

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 02:05:40 No.19432210 >>19431923 Every time I take those personality tests, I always get a different result. Does that mean I'm Yasu?

Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 02:08:50 No.19432223

I started reading Umineko not that long ago because I wanted to read a good mystery story. I was enjoying Episode 1 for a while, however I got bothered about whether there might end up being actual supernatural shit in it rather than being a normal mystery, so I looked up a bunch of spoilers and honestly it all looks really ridiculous and stupid. It's a shame because I actually liked the characters and setting so far. I'm probably just going to find an actual mystery novel to read instead.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 02:10:51 No.19432227 >>19432223 Please, there's no such thing as magic.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 02:16:46 No.19432249 >>19432223 >I looked up a bunch of spoilers killyourself.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 02:18:19 No.19432254 what's up with the amount of fags lately?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 02:19:54 No.19432262 >>19432249 It saved me from wasting who knows how much time, so it's a good thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 02:20:42 No.19432264 >>19432262 Nice blog,leave the thread now.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 02:21:14 No.19432266 >>19432223 Fucking goat.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 02:22:18 No.19432271 File: 51 KB, 164x237, ALL of them.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19432223 Now you're being a dumb goat. Way to disappoint me.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 02:25:22 No.19432283 >>19432264 Will do. >>19432266 >>19432271 I'm sure that means something, but I'll never know.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 02:26:38 No.19432288 >>19432283 It means you actually dodge a bullet for never reading Umineko. You made the right choice.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 02:26:42 No.19432289 >>19432262 Now you gonna miss a special good mystery where you like the characters from. Nicely done!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 02:29:23 No.19432299 >>19431923 I'm surprised no one else said ronove yet

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 02:29:42 No.19432301 >you get told explicitly to not trust Beatrice, to search for the truth, for it exists >"ther wuz magic so i gav upp xd"

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 02:31:37 No.19432308 File: 49 KB, 320x320, 42240222-5110.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19432301 Umineko isn't for plebs and normalfags,it's no surprise.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 02:35:35 No.19432320

>>19432283
You stopped thinking and decided to willingly ruin your first experience. You didn't have faith in the author or your own self to figure out the mystery. You didn't even try to stick through to the end, or even halfway. That's pathetic.

>>19432301
People like that is why Episode 3 had to be rewritten.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 02:42:15 No.19432336 >>19432320 >You didn't have faith in the author Why would he?

Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 02:45:36 No.19432347

>>19432283

Did you come over here just to tell people you dropped Umineko for a super obvious bait reason? Or are just baiting because you're thirsty for attention? Well, nevermind, I guess it's the latter.

I'm kinda happy you dropped it, if it's true. I'd rather have a goat dropped the story immediately then reading it, skipping most of it and then claiming it's shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 02:46:20 No.19432351 >>19432336 If you give a mystery a try, it probably means you have some sort of faith in the author, doesn't it?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 02:46:29 No.19432353 >>19432336 A mystery relies on you having faith in the author.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 02:47:36 No.19432357 >>19432336 Read EP5 again.

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>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 03:01:43 No.19432410 >>19432401 I wish I had such a cute uncle

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 03:13:54 No.19432444 >>19432353 >>19432351 Faith isn't always rewarded.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 03:20:18 No.19432469 File: 121 KB, 352x480, but_nakua1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19431923 WHAT I'M INCOMPETENT but the test said i was a debater! not an incompoop!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 03:52:45 No.19432594 >>19431923 I have been Shannon, Kanon, Maria and Bern at various points in my life This must be the key to the true identity of Beatrice

Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 03:55:44 No.19432607
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Why did the amount of faggoats suddenly spike out of nowhere? They arent even the typical goats who just dont understand Umineko when they finish it, we're getting dumbasses who dont even follow the basic 101 for experiencing fucking anything.

>looking up spoilers
>quit reading after 2 hours because you got bored
>not trusting the goddamn author in a mystery novel, the very foundational rule of the mystery genre
>skipping over the first title in the series, higurashi, and reading umineko
>posting in this very thread when they havent completed the relative material

I could go on but my head just hurts thinking about iy.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 03:59:40 No.19432626

My friend is on episode 3 and he still thinks Battler is mentally retarded for not believing in magic. I dont know if its that my friend is actually retarded or if hes not reading it as a mystery or thinking but just going with the flow, letting the vn spell everything out.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 04:01:18 No.19432633 >>19432223 This must be a try-hard troll I refuse to believe someone this stupid exists in this world.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 04:02:48 No.19432639 >>19432607 I'ts summer in USA iirc. That's a very nice gaap.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 04:04:28 No.19432642 >>19432607 These are people from /a/, I expected nothing less from these anons I would barely call people

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 04:06:51 No.19432650 >>19432642 I hate /a/ now, it's full of shit,rage,elitits and flamewars.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 04:08:57 No.19432659 >>19432223 Next you have to kill yourself to check if there is afterlife.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 04:13:17 No.19432669 If life after death is a mystery, and god is the author, do we have to believe in him to see heaven?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 04:16:41 No.19432677 I've read enough VNs to know I should never trust or give the benefit of the doubt to anyone writing one unless I have a very good reason.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 04:23:33 No.19432698 >>19432669 God doesn't exist.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 04:27:58 No.19432710

>>19432677
You dont trust every writer for everything, thats pointless. Where you absolutely have to trust the author though is when its a mystery, because the entire story revolves around it having a solution. If you dont trust the author of a mystery, that means youre not reading it as a mystery nor do you believe it has a solution.

If someone told you a riddle, you would automatically trust the person in its telling because you believe the riddle something to be solved. If you didnt, the riddle isnt a riddle at all, its just a random string of words that dont make sense.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 04:31:37 No.19432714 >>19432698 God does exist, and he is signing autographs in Finland right now

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 04:36:38 No.19432725 >>19432710 Maybe it's just a shitty mystery.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 04:38:12 No.19432728 >>19432607 >quit reading after 2 hours because you got bored Nobody did this. Read, anon, read.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 04:38:55 No.19432729 >>19432725 And if it isn't, you just ruined for yourself a potential great mystery. Are you retarded, why take the risk? You don't deserve to appreciate works of this genre.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 04:40:37 No.19432733 >>19432729 It's a fucking video game. I don't really care.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 04:44:50 No.19432745 >>19432733 Then whydafk you here for sperg.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 04:45:24 No.19432747 >>19431923 BERNKASTEL MASTER RACE INCOMING

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 04:53:51 No.19432776 >>19432733 Get the fuck out of here lol. If you don't care why are you posting here? Do you always randomly spoil yourself about certain game elements and then jump to conclusions without ever finishing the game itself? Absolute moron.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 04:55:40 No.19432784 >>19432776 Depends on the game. If I think I should I'll spoil everything. There have been times I've been satisfied with what I found out and continued enjoying the game. Other times it saves me from wasting a lot of time.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 05:05:19 No.19432822 >>19432784 It is actually scientifically proven that doing this increases your enjoyment https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/spoiler-alert-spoilers-make-you-enjoy-stories-more

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 05:19:42 No.19432863 File: 151 KB, 384x595, 57749910.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19431923 >intelligent and a wicked sense of humor Literally me

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 05:23:11 No.19432876 >>19432863 kefka.jpg

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 05:34:09 No.19432910 >>19432784 >Other times it saves me from wasting a lot of time Just leave

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 05:37:10 No.19432920 File: 371 KB, 675x900, Houjou.Satoko.full.1386500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 06:09:44 No.19433028 https://www.strawpoll.me/16082489

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 06:19:34 No.19433085 File: 21 KB, 192x262, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reminder that Gohda killed everyone woth bombs but had last minute regrets.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 06:23:11 No.19433109 >>19433085 >Batora-kun >I regretti the Nitroglycerin laced spaghetti

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 06:24:00 No.19433116 Oh, you fuckers think you're so smart by understanding Umineko and all, huh. All the meta shit and whatever, right? So if you're so damn 'good', why don't you try to understand this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb5Od801mFA

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 06:27:08 No.19433133 Umineko would've greatly benefited if Beato wore an SS uniform instead of that dress. It would clue us in on her true origins while also looking cooler. And it's my fetish or something, but that's not as important.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 06:44:06 No.19433212 >>19433116 This is a joke right? On some level at least?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 06:49:15 No.19433243 File: 1.25 MB, 794x1123, 3dfedb1f268ae053242732e5c4f948fe.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19433133

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 06:55:46 No.19433272 >>19433212 Taking a quick look all of his VN videos seem to be like that. It's sad to see so many people in the comments taking it seriously though.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 06:56:44 No.19433278 Wait so the guy on the left ISN'T Battler? But he has the cape and everything!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 06:59:46 No.19433292 >>19433278 No, it is Battler. The character on the right is from WTC5.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 07:05:48 No.19433328 WHEN THE FINNS CRY

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 07:20:33 No.19433392 >>19430710 >comparing the slog that is the beginning of Umineko to the based biology discussion Gain taste.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 07:25:06 No.19433418 >cravat An Edgeworth to Battler's Phoenix?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 07:28:51 No.19433427 >>19433133 >And it's my fetish or something, but that's not as important. Anon...

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 07:29:53 No.19433434 >>19433427 Beato...

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 07:30:25 No.19433439 >>19433427 At least it's just his fetish. The beta version of one of my characters was an Isekai'd Nazi and I unironically thought that it was thematically appropriate.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:05:49 No.19433595 File: 127 KB, 1200x675, DiEH5lOX4AAOoyn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19433328 F'ocking Finns, m8

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:08:41 No.19433611 No faggotry this time please Ryukishi I'm here for the mystery

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:10:06 No.19433620 File: 936 KB, 644x644, wdytwa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19433611 >no faggotry

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:13:18 No.19433633 File: 176 KB, 400x406, 1337614122957.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19433611 >No faggotry

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:14:24 No.19433643 File: 30 KB, 556x527, ugh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19428739 >"female" MC

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:15:19 No.19433644 File: 174 KB, 928x608, cravat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19433611 >no faggotry Anon LOOK AT THIS MC LOOK AT IT

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:16:00 No.19433646 What if R07 subverts our expectations and makes the MC a girl(female)

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:17:21 No.19433654 Oh no no I just read 2nd episode

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:20:18 No.19433668 What if Episode 9 tears apart Yasu and proves Duncantrice?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:25:40 No.19433694 >>19433595 The first nine rows were reserved for guests with vip tickets, they messed up when handing out tickets to the q&a leading to some people not receiving them and the convention is just generally expensive and shit

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:25:45 No.19433695 >>19433644 >>19433633 >>19433620 YAMERO Why can't we go back to things like Higurashi?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:26:37 No.19433697 Can someone explain me Duncantrice or link me the theory? I'm really interested

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:27:37 No.19433701 0% of the characters in Higurashi are gay ~50% of the characters in Umineko are gay Will we see a 100% gay cast in the next installment? Is the true tale of WTC Ryukishi coming to accept his sexual orientation?

Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:28:15 No.19433706

>>19433697
Duncan Sproat The shkanontrice interpretation of Ep 7 doesn't have/include love.
Love is GOD.
There are so many things to say but I'll start with this :
- a crime was commited and someone has to pay.
- everyone is put in purgatorio until they find the true culprit
-the problem is that everyone has to be saved in order to open the door to the golden land (aka Eden, aka Palace of Versailles)
- in order to solve this, they have to create a fake character who will play the role of "scapegoat" and be put in hell ----> Yasu = Jesus (sacrificing for the sinners)
-No one has to be the true culprit, Happy ending

That's what is said in Ep 7 + 8

Shannon=Kanon=Yasu was a hint toward the holy trinity and the fact that God is hidding a story.
God is sending his angels (St Bernard and Gabriel for the moment) to bring chaos and hide a fragile truth behind the several existing tales (Yasu is the culprit/ K and R are the culprit/ Eva is the culprit)

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:34:11 No.19433730 Battler did it all with Kyrie and Rudolph, had change of heart killing both of them and then failed at suicide which made him amnesiac at the sea. Fuck Shkannontrice.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:39:18 No.19433760 >>19433701 Sad, just sad

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:41:12 No.19433769 >>19433701 Satoshi was pretty gay

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:43:20 No.19433781 >>19428739 The fuck is there left in Umineko to tell? Unless "lol Chiru was a ruse too faggot, enjoy Bern trolling" or something like that.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:47:37 No.19433799

>>19433706
>There are so many things to say but I'll start with this
are you serious?
>>19433730
That sounds similar to prime, it has nothing to do with Shkannontrice i don't get your comment.

Im leaving umi threads for a month or two, too much fags and bad shitposters lately.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:48:09 No.19433802 File: 178 KB, 376x475, 1483098925692.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] She will be back right?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:50:26 No.19433813 >>19428739 Will umineko 9 have Ryukishi's original art? to me, umineko just isn't worth reading without his art

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:50:35 No.19433814 >>19433802 She and Ange will appear in One Piece as pirates

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:53:43 No.19433827 >>19433646 No. I'm thinking it will be a girl (male). Small difference, but worth pointing it out.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 08:54:18 No.19433829 >>19433827 Clearly, that's a guy(female)

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 09:01:59 No.19433857 >>19433701 fuck off with your shitty bait

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 09:23:17 No.19433951 File: 63 KB, 1080x638, IMG-20180313-WA0001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How can I get Umineko other than from Steam?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 09:39:42 No.19434030 >>19433951 You can buy it from MangaGamer

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 09:54:52 No.19434105 File: 133 KB, 1420x1272, d062120e25fcadfceb0f1943e769d11e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/batsugeemu/status/1018424044318806016

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 10:12:23 No.19434173 >>19434030 can you buy it from mangagamer with the original ryukishi art?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 10:22:10 No.19434225 >>19434173 Yeah the mangagamer versions allows you to switch between original art and pachinko sprites anytime. They have physical versions too if you're into that.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 10:55:52 No.19434420 What will Cravat-kun be like as an MC?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 11:17:06 No.19434517 Cravat as in Krawatte (Necktie)?

Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 11:23:18 No.19434550
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When will this take place? In a game board, or years after? Another alternate world?
Maybe this will be a Diebuster scenario where the time between 8 and 9's release will play a part.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 11:44:42 No.19434625 File: 146 KB, 352x460, Rio_defa1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19428739 Lion?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 12:40:59 No.19434868 Would Ryukishi just reveal the truth in EP9 like he did in the manga?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 12:55:17 No.19434922 >>19434868 Probably make things more confusing and obtuse.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 13:15:09 No.19435035 he said the story of r07 is really important so I highly doubt its just more answers, backstory, or what not. Given the timing and its apparent importants, Im heavily leaning towards the camp of though that it will tie in wtc5

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 13:17:41 No.19435057 >>19435035 r07 said the story of umineko 9* jesus I need sleep

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 13:23:16 No.19435081 >>19435057 >>19435035 I mean you're probably correct either way

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 14:25:55 No.19435391 Colored sprites WHEN

Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 14:45:43 No.19435515
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Did Ryukishi have someone to do coloring for him before? This sounds like a good compromise between keeping the unique artstyle and bringing better production quality to the work, especially considering that he seemed to improve a lot from the teaser we got.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 15:14:20 No.19435690 File: 298 KB, 1280x720, Screenshot_2018-07-15-21-13-02-827_com.google.android.youtube.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm not ready for Ryu to fuck up the story.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 17:44:11 No.19436479 File: 329 KB, 2429x1366, 1525231142875.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I bet the PS3 version has a clear CG of the background that isn't obscured bby leaves and text but it will never get extracted

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 17:56:03 No.19436572 >>19436479 I have all the PS3 assets, and I haven't found it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 19:00:54 No.19437065 File: 393 KB, 550x2750, 22721282_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wonder how that JessicaxKanon artist felt about Yasu

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 19:05:45 No.19437103 File: 84 KB, 500x500, 1531158484855.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Natsuhi is a miracle of the universe!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 20:27:13 No.19437622 >>19437103 Sucker merry ballers

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 20:30:17 No.19437631 File: 117 KB, 600x371, natsuhi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19437622

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 20:40:27 No.19437667 >>19437631 Wait no don't push me off the cliff

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 20:45:41 No.19437684 File: 159 KB, 661x960, just_a_bad_day.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19437667 Too late. You are a witch now!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 21:31:25 No.19437896 Reminder that there will never ever, EVER be another translated 07th expansion VN. Tri? Nope. Iwahime? Lol nope. IT'S time to visit the ol pal noose-kun desu

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 21:35:27 No.19437914 >>19437684 Wow you just made my dream come true, based Natsuhi

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 21:35:47 No.19437917 >>19437896 Iwaihime isn't 07th Expansion r07 did work on it tho

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 21:37:27 No.19437931 >>19437896 Tri is shit anyways. What do you expect when r07 only wrote one out of the three parts?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 22:19:43 No.19438129 Does anyone have that logo that Erika has on her pirate hat? I remember it being like a cat scull with two chopsticks crossed behind it on a black background

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 15, 2018 22:36:14 No.19438202 >>19437931 TRT was really good Only Ren'ai sucked ass

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 00:05:47 No.19438597 hold up why does lion's world end up like all the rest

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 00:06:27 No.19438601 File: 121 KB, 396x622, Akagi.Alfred.full.1426037.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19435515 See RGD and maaaybe his Trianthology sprites. Characters like Alfred are obvious Ryukishi illustrations with somebody else colouring.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 00:09:56 No.19438626 >>19438601 To me this looks like another artist tried to mimic his style. Maybe I'm not giving r07 enough credit, perhaps he has improved this much!

Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 00:21:40 No.19438682

>>19431923
This is fake news by someone with a meme understanding of MBTI and the functions.

The "real" Beato is an INFP like Yasu
Bern is still an INFJ like Rika even if she's a twisted cunt
Maria is too young, damaged, and autistic to type properly but I would learn towards ISFP.
Kanon is an ISTP
Shanon is the ISTJ
Virgilia is an ENFJ
Lambda is an ENTP/ENFP because her top function (Ne) recognizes and encourages latent Willpower (Ni)

I'm too lazy to go through the rest unless someone has request.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 00:30:23 No.19438732 File: 725 KB, 1594x564, Academy Love Adventure.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19438626 That one is from 2012. Here's some sprites from Trianthology, from the more recent 2016.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 00:35:44 No.19438753 >>19438732 >Bern with chronic bitch-face I wouldnt expect anything less

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 00:37:59 No.19438760 >>19438732 Will Bern have a guest appearance in Iya na Kao Sarenagara Opantsu Misete Moraitai??? I want her to look down on me in disgust while I look at her underwear.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 00:45:18 No.19438796 post it

Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 00:47:46 No.19438803

>>19438682
Where's the best MBTI test to you? I understand there are innumerable online and, like any other psychometric test, they vary in question quality, result assessment, strategy, trait interpretation (and combinations thereof). And, as befalls psychometrics, most people's understanding is memetic nonsense, so I'm curious what test you prefer. Despite typing differently from Lambdadelta, willpower is the kernel of my philosophy and greatest pride, which exists energetically and axiomatically before philosophy, so obviously I can't resist asking.

Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 00:59:00 No.19438862
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>>19438803
Even the best tests are only about 50% accurate. You need to either trust you know yourself honestly or get others to type you. Learning the functions narrows it down to 2-3 usually. Willpower is expressed as Ni-Ne in the top or second slot. Ne is "multiple external metaphysical threads of wills/patterns" and Ni is "Internal will narrowed and focused into a singular expression"

They are the + and - of the same concept. Lambda has a handful of threads she explores and judges as good or shit and players with her favorites. Bern (or Rika) is the person holding the other end of a single string that represents her immovable cynical worldview where everything is reduced to kakera probability and her insistence that "miracles don't exist".

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 01:18:29 No.19438937 >>19438862 I'll drop a link to a guys channel that has a good second half about typing yourself and others. Make you skip the first 16 minutes. https://youtu.be/5ASWxOXmF1M?list=PLCPzIFw2QJDdtiA1Uy7NAPtTbi50q6ce6&t=973

Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 01:19:30 No.19438941

>>19438862
I usually test strongly INTJ (some of them include an assertive-turbulent scale (though it's dichotomous considering I always score 95-100 assertive) which has Ni atop the rest.

I'm actually very interested in this, and you make it out to have a satisying complexity. I agree with MBTI insofar as its utility in identifying character archetypes, which corporations do use to success (else they'd abandon it if it was unsound). I always explored the literary/philosophical and spiritual implications of Umineko, but I'm actually very attracted to what you've presented. Anyone who philosophizes needs the conviction to draw from all specimen, and not only other philosophers (this is why an astute analogy is universally intuitive). That means psychology especially. Would you discuss this more with me?

Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 01:27:43 No.19438971

>>19438941
I'm no pro, and there is a lot of bad and psued info on MBTI that you have to outright ignore. Basically anything that isn't function-focused is outright wrong, except for fun stereotypes. Jung understood the delicate bridge between meta-existance and hard reality and the balance of both when he came up with his system before it was hijacked.
>Would you discuss this more with me?
Sure, but we should probably take it somewhere else to be less cancerous and off-topic. Send me some sort of chat link or something. I'm not leaving personal info in the archives.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 01:44:04 No.19439015 >>19438971 If you have Discord you can add Fortitude#8412.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 01:50:20 No.19439035 File: 187 KB, 800x600, Beatrice's_Briah.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19433133 Beatrice already wears it though.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 01:52:02 No.19439041 >>19439035 Nazitoriche being canon even in other VNs, GG

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 02:14:01 No.19439143 File: 155 KB, 768x256, based batora.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 02:18:10 No.19439161 Does anyone have the Umineko edit of the "what do you mean you don't agree with me" clip?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 02:48:54 No.19439259 >>19439143 lmao i love damedamesubs.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 04:50:15 No.19439704 File: 16 KB, 711x400, cum.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sucking Takano's big futa cock.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 05:04:23 No.19439775 >>19439704 I love Takano but I wont stand for heresy. She's all woman!

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 05:08:51 No.19439792 >>19439704 Well well well, I love futas AND cock.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 05:10:22 No.19439803 >>19439775 Yes indeed she's all woman with just a little(actually big) surprise. >>19439792 Nice taste anon!

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 05:13:54 No.19439819 >>19439803 Say it in red.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 05:14:03 No.19439820 >the no magic witch gf (male [raised female]) to create a universe with Why live

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 05:15:38 No.19439833 >>19439820 There's got to be at least, 4 out there in the world. Keep looking, anon!

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 05:18:17 No.19439840 >>19439833 magic doesn't exist

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 05:20:15 No.19439849 >>19439840 the absolute state of humanity.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 05:21:01 No.19439855 File: 174 KB, 928x608, cravat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why is Cravat kun so unhappy?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 05:23:08 No.19439865 >>19439855 no miracle Bern cucked the poor lad

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 05:25:51 No.19439873 >>19439840 why would you say that

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 05:32:43 No.19439897 >>19439865 >no miracle Bern Feel the Bern.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 05:36:23 No.19439915 >>19439897 I'd like to feel the Bern all over, if you know what I mean

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 05:37:13 No.19439922 Thanks again to the anon why suggested Death Comes As The End. It was pretty good but I agree with anons that say after Umineko almost all other mysteries become a cakewalk. Though it was still enjoyable.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 05:41:34 No.19439946 >>19439922 Why don't you participate in some fan-made gameboards? I can guarantee they will be challenging for you.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 05:43:03 No.19439954 >>19439922 By a miracle I happen to be here, glad you liked it. death by poisoned massage oil was a new one for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 07:08:40 No.19440367 File: 257 KB, 1280x1024, IMG_20180716_130614.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm glad there's a resurgence of Umineko art after the news.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 07:09:41 No.19440372 >>19440367 >TWEWY 2 never

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 07:16:53 No.19440401 File: 1011 KB, 928x608, gahaha.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] TELL ME ABOUT CRAVAT-KUN WHY DOES HE WEAR THE NECKTIE

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 07:16:53 No.19440402 >>19433769 Sh[M]ion doesnt have a dick tho

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 07:20:40 No.19440421 >>19437684 Natsuhi is related to Satoko given they both have fetishes for pushing people off ledges

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 07:20:58 No.19440423 >>19440401 >he

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 07:22:03 No.19440427 >>19440423 I refuse to get Lion'd again

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 07:29:56 No.19440449 is it confirmed ep9, or is it wild speculation?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 07:31:36 No.19440455 >>19440449 Left is Umineko 4+. Right(Cravat-Kun) is WTC5. Tentatively called when the ()() cry

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 07:32:12 No.19440456 >>19440449 https://gematsu.com/2018/07/new-naku-koro-ni-title-and-umineko-no-naku-koro-ni-saku-announced

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 07:38:33 No.19440478 File: 733 KB, 500x281, sleep.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19438971 Less cancerous place https://discordapp.com/invite/gtNRnbe But full of EoPs too :)

Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 08:00:47 No.19440566
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>>19428739
Goddamn that lineart looks good. And the sprites will be colored by another artist, which worked great in RGD (just look at Claudia). I eagerly await the day people won't demand updated sprites anymore.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 09:10:44 No.19440820 >>19440427 It's a blatant male (female)

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 10:33:33 No.19441197 >>19440478 what are EoPs?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 10:48:30 No.19441259 >>19441197 Euthanizers of Puppies

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 11:44:00 No.19441584 >>19440455 why "cravat" anyway? is this some kind of meme?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 11:52:23 No.19441639 >>19441584 I mean the character is wearing a cravat, and we don't know her(his?) name. That's why.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 12:12:09 No.19441744 File: 174 KB, 928x608, cravat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19428739 >then I realized, I was in a WTC game >funny thing, it was the worst possible thing I could have thought of

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 12:14:06 No.19441753 Are cravats considered /fa/?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 12:36:56 No.19441880 >>19441753 If your name is Miles Edgeworth and/or you live in Victorian England

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 13:06:47 No.19442071 So a lot of people seem convinced the character is Virgilius. Any basis to that?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 13:13:17 No.19442099 >>19442071 Because he looks like the virgilius concept art you dunce.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 13:15:11 No.19442107 File: 84 KB, 450x600, 830180faae9b202ce88988003784b1b5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19442099 We're just being deceived

Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 13:17:25 No.19442121
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>>19442071
Some similarities in design, but there are differences. I had the same immediate thought when I saw the design but I'm not convinced. Ryukishi clarified that character is for the next WTC rather than the new Umineko scenario, so I think it's even more unlikely now.
https://twitter.com/07th_official/status/1018347553450962945

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 14:00:46 No.19442342 >>19440455 Left is WTC4+* Meaning is Chiru related content as we all expected. EP9 because it will be an actual new episode part of the main series, even if we don't know the proper number just yet.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 14:05:32 No.19442367 How long do you think episode 9 will be? Will it be short, around 10 hours? Will it be long, around 30? What if its extremely long, like 80???

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 14:09:43 No.19442388 >>19442367 Probably around the same length as the other episodes

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 14:13:09 No.19442406 What will we do when Ryu dies

Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 14:14:50 No.19442412
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>>19430638
Actually, the opening of Umineko is one of the best ever written for a VN, and a great piece of literature in general. I'm not joking. Reread the first two hours.

It manages to introduce 18 characters with a good snippet of their personalities without ever drowning the reader in trivia. It's almost surprising how it is good. You are introduced first to George and his family, one by one, with their quirks in little and easily digestible snippets, and then to Battler and his family, and then to Maria and Rosa, all the very first part. Then when you have assimilated them and had some moments to properly get their characters, you are introduced to the second half of the cast one-by-one.

The opening of Umineko is absolutely great. I have never seen one so tightly written in a VN. It's truly good writing, which is very surprising coming from Ryukishi (which is a good storyteller, but not a good writer usually).

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 14:14:55 No.19442413 >>19442406 We will use magic to resurrect him of course

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 14:14:59 No.19442414 >>19442406 The same thing we did while he was away, bully other VN fanbases but especially DDLC and DI

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 14:17:36 No.19442424 >>19442406 Isn't it obvious? We create an illusion of him so that he never will die

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 14:18:51 No.19442430 File: 323 KB, 400x400, d4d97d3fa4baeb1276a85eda8bbeda27_400x400.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19442413 >magic >existing

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 14:19:55 No.19442434 >>19442430 prove it doesn't exist

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 14:20:48 No.19442443 >>19442434 It's impossible to prove that something doesn't exist.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 14:22:52 No.19442450 File: 431 KB, 900x900, ed361fb9cdaa4c4fe3cebc9d24a1b5ef.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19442430 That's because you have no love

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 14:26:07 No.19442469 >>19442443 check and mate

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 14:29:51 No.19442483 File: 156 KB, 500x431, Bernkastel.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Look at this cute witch! She's perfect! She's a precious miracle!

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 14:44:11 No.19442550 >>19442121 I think there are chances that the new character may be inspired by Virgilius in terms of design, but they're certainly not going to be Virgilius.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 14:49:25 No.19442577 File: 495 KB, 1536x2048, IMG_20180716_125410.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Jesus fuck, how man times do we have to tell everyone that you can switch to original sprites with the new version and that you can get it on mangagamer as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 15:08:17 No.19442662 File: 108 KB, 658x1024, tumblr_ntqlwrvcPh1s0e431o1_raw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19442550 That's very possible. He has reused his designs before.

Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 15:15:27 No.19442685
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So where would I go to find more very comfy pieces of music such as
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfIsbeR6nWw
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSKWf_20Lkg

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 15:18:33 No.19442700 >>19442662 Who's that?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 15:26:24 No.19442748 >>19442700 I can't remember. It might have been a submission for a Rozen Maiden contest, but don't quote me on that.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 15:34:49 No.19442780 >>19442748 Yep, and she eventually became Alice (non bullied mode)

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 15:40:50 No.19442811 Umineko is a masterpiece. I feel bad for people who will never experience it.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 15:46:36 No.19442834 >>19442811 How do you feel for those that read up to Episode 2, gave up and read spoilers, and dropped it?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 15:47:40 No.19442840 >>19442834 I rather not have them in these threads, but alas...

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 15:53:53 No.19442889 I watched the anime and then played answers arc, am i a bad person?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 15:54:22 No.19442892 >>19442685 Other Ryukishi VNs for more dai Subahibi for more dai-like couple of songs

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 15:54:57 No.19442897 >>19442889 Very bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 15:58:51 No.19442918 >>19442892 Subahibi bores the shit out of me. I've made it as far as the actual suicide in the second part but it's just got so little going on.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 16:01:59 No.19442946 >>19442897 Anon, you words hurt, why would you say that to me?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 16:13:39 No.19442998 File: 395 KB, 557x800, 0acfec1c0b17f7d2cd8615177a265c31.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] look at all these cuties!

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 16:20:07 No.19443034 >>19442998 >doranoru >tits

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 16:25:51 No.19443049 >>19442918 you'd be surprised just how wild the ride gets

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 16:28:57 No.19443063 >>19442998 Wh-why is that old hag wearing such a lewd swimsuit?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 16:42:32 No.19443120 >>19443063 Most of them are 1000 year old hags.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 16:43:55 No.19443125 >>19442998 >Virgilia's arms Far too faithful to the original design.

Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 17:20:56 No.19443325

I really hope WTC5 will be a standalone story, like Umineko. Let it just have basic ideas and small references (not!Riku and not!Takano, concept of kakera, small cameo like Okonogi), but nothing actually major. I don't want an "expanded universe" with "lore", so to speak, as I feel such things often distract from actual content.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 17:25:47 No.19443345 I just want more of my kitty

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 18:00:04 No.19443521 File: 183 KB, 640x480, 5fwSB5L.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You better keep your promise,Lambda.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 18:05:59 No.19443576 >continue to thank 07th Expansion Google translate Ryukishi is completely full of himself

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 18:18:19 No.19443646 We'll meet again when something else cums.

Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 18:56:40 No.19443859

>>19442412
I watched the first 7 episodes or so of the anime when it came out and liked it, and then read the VN from the beginning because I wanted the full picture (and didn't want to wait for new episodes).

I was blown away by how great the intro was and how much it fleshed out each of the characters. Hell, I kinda didn't even want the murders to actually start, I was enjoying the interactions between all the characters too much.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 18:58:13 No.19443871 hello I really need this if anyone has please post it https://vgmdb.net/album/41354

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 19:30:14 No.19444063 File: 116 KB, 461x258, ushiromiyalion.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what is Lion doing?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 19:46:26 No.19444150 >>19444063 Incest is a common things in all kakekas

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 19:59:59 No.19444219 >>19443646 You call?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 20:44:13 No.19444417 >>19444150 The Ushiromiyas are that fucked up

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 20:48:07 No.19444446 alright someone please post all the good umineko doujins I haven't fapped to anything related to the series besides beato and occasionally erika as seen through various character creators in years

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 20:51:43 No.19444477 File: 43 KB, 188x398, ERO ERO.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19444446 >occasionally erika >occasionally That's it?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 20:54:06 No.19444500 >>19444477 How the fuck do you expect me to get Erika's hair to look even close to right

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 20:54:31 No.19444502 File: 164 KB, 371x350, 1529558332111.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19444446

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 21:44:58 No.19444812 File: 44 KB, 521x545, 1528571192431.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's got Bern so agitated?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 21:57:34 No.19444888 >>19444446 >tfw no ROSA doujins Why even exist. The only one that she is in instead of full milf you get this weird imouto like body.

Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 22:23:10 No.19445012

>>19444888
no one even wrote any fanfiction, it's the weirdest fucking shit
like she was ideal for it, and fuck was there at lot of WTC fanfiction some of it mine yet there was not one doujin of Rosa fucking Battler or getting fucked by goats, or anything

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 22:23:20 No.19445013 >>19444888 >tfw no doujin where battler and rosa solve the epitaph and she 'convinces' him not to tell anyone he helped

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 23:00:34 No.19445220 >>19444888 She is too pure

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 23:23:41 No.19445325 >>19445220 AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 23:36:00 No.19445363 Someone needs to write a fanfic where Rosa pleasures Battler after their conversation in Ep5 and someone needs to write it now!

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 23:47:07 No.19445416 File: 422 KB, 800x600, 51b7323b5db2e0eeca8abd6cd9260c30.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19445363 so get to work

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 16, 2018 23:50:33 No.19445439 >>19445220 >Rosa >Pure Sure anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 01:02:37 No.19445818 File: 311 KB, 500x354, c20101208_umineko_03_cs1w1_500x354.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19445416 Soon.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 01:30:51 No.19445944 >>19445363 Someone needs to create a newspaper article where Rosa gets into a scandal after being caught in an affair with a very young intern at her company.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 01:40:55 No.19445987 >>19445818 I want to lick her feets.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 03:04:09 No.19446319 Is the person who was interested in VAing Higurashi around?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 03:07:44 No.19446331 >>19446319 Depends, is it Japanese? Im in if I can VA in Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 03:08:51 No.19446336 >>19446331 There are already Higurashi drama CDs in japanese, there really isnt a need for japanese VAs, sorry

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 03:13:41 No.19446352 >>19446336 仕方がありませんわ

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 06:01:55 No.19446870 How do I become a witch

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 06:40:24 No.19446990 >>19446352 Although, i am kinda looking for someone that can pronounce the character and location names in a non cringey way.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 06:46:52 No.19447006 >>19438796 Here you go! https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/3376836

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 06:51:17 No.19447023 >>19446870 Why on earth would you want to be one Even Lambdadelta is a traumatized wreck beneath the sadism

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 07:01:03 No.19447079 >>19447023 the only thing I'm missing from that is being a witch now stop holding out on me

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 07:53:59 No.19447349 >>19430703 Female MC (male)

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 08:09:38 No.19447419 Lambda and Bern doing witch things together!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 12:10:26 No.19448776 since when was hugging and kissing considered 'witch things'

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 12:10:45 No.19448778 Wasn't there a scene where Erika implied she masturbated with chopsticks? Or am I just remembering wrong?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 12:12:50 No.19448782 File: 378 KB, 777x753, 703f7ba01bb2094bf84eaef7f2556550.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19448778 I don't remember anything like that

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 13:37:26 No.19449144 The human condition of ushiromiya Ange,lewd!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 13:56:06 No.19449233 How do I become Erika's boyfriend?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 13:59:23 No.19449240 >>19449233 Have her chain you up in the basement to make sure you never have the opportunity to cheat on her

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 14:07:39 No.19449272 Rosatricechads, we're about to win.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 14:12:23 No.19449299 >>19449240 Is that supposed to be a bad thing?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 14:55:52 No.19449497 File: 59 KB, 591x634, 8a1953dead4033c0f147768fa0d427a8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19449299 who's to say?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 15:03:33 No.19449528 >>19449272 I have a feeling we're all gonna lose

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 15:42:32 No.19449713 File: 64 KB, 404x636, aoyama's warning.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Duncan Sprout should watch Boku no Hero Academia. Lots of plot important French only clues there.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 16:03:50 No.19449816 >>19449272 >Rosatrice >Chad The only chads are Gohdatricers.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 16:08:43 No.19449838 >>19449816 based magical gohda chef

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 16:20:33 No.19449896 File: 202 KB, 405x377, ta_si_aw_a1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Guys, any good books you recommend? I'm away on holidays and don't have much to do, since weather is horrible. Everything will do.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 16:21:21 No.19449902 >>19449896 my diary desu

Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 16:35:02 No.19449983
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>>19449896
>>19446870
For those with magical ambitions: everyone should eventually read this:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/194Uc_W4nTMjJ6yzfV7WFVuY74zPhcivsam3EqijatXA/edit..

It's Wittgenstein's Remarks on Frazer's Golden Bough, where he excoriated Frazer's barbaric views on religion while simultaneously eplicating magic as the end of metaphysics and religion, and that they are a form of magic. It's something I hark back to often in my magical studies, even in the Asian sphere. Let it be known that Remarks was originally a prelude to Philosophical Investigations, which draws from Schopenhauer's World as Will and Representation. So after Umineko, you would read Schopenhauer, Wittgenstein's Remarks then his Philosophical Investigations. They all build on and sublimate each other, and if you want a truly studied understanding of magic, these are crucial readings, especially for understanding Maria's role as an impending creator, in the production of your own grimoire (if you have an aptitude for it, in any case). The gestalt of these will guide you on its own, but you know where I took it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 16:43:18 No.19450049 >>19449983 >tfw didn't understand a thing E-English isn't even my mother tongue anyway

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 16:52:40 No.19450115 File: 16 KB, 294x224, battler_boomer.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19450049 >tfw incompetent brainlet and wordlet I know this feel, brother.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 16:53:15 No.19450122 File: 1.25 MB, 1200x1500, a7570290cb0b8eb8efdee4c6a21c7188.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Do you ever read a post and just think how pleasurable it would be to see them suffer in their worst fragment?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 16:53:52 No.19450127 >>19450049 tl;dr read Wittgenstein, then Subahibi

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 16:53:57 No.19450128 Lion is the cutest umineko girl.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 16:54:59 No.19450137 >>19450049 >>19450115 Just use context clues

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 16:56:16 No.19450145 >>19450122 I am already in the worst fragment. Your wish has been granted, Anon!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 16:56:38 No.19450149 File: 263 KB, 850x734, tumblr_oglnguytiy1u8df7so1_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19450128

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 16:59:14 No.19450161 File: 162 KB, 562x600, 1529864288975.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19450145 It's useless, it's all useless, what good is your suffering if I can't be there to watch it?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 16:59:49 No.19450165 File: 240 KB, 517x393, sadtrice.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19450137 Yeah, I know. Still, reading something and not understanding most of it doesn't help my already low self esteem.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 17:03:13 No.19450179 >>19450165 If you come across something you do not understand, you should relish the opportunity that's presented to you. Learning is fun my friend!

Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 17:04:16 No.19450187

>>19450165
Don't let yourself be defeated so easily. If you put the effort in, I'll help you through it until you stop trying, like the earlier anon with his Borges readings. You can't expect output without input, so express some willpower for a reward. Just say something if you ever decide to read these and undertake magical studies and I'll help you, alongside anyone else.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 17:10:15 No.19450218 >>19449983 This sounds thought provoking, I'll be sure to give it a whirl at my earliest convenience

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 17:10:57 No.19450226 File: 85 KB, 239x234, 1495670395229.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19450179 >>19450187 Thanks, guys. You're more reliable than my real life "friends". Magical studies sound fun, would be very grateful, if you helped me with them.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 17:23:55 No.19450323 >>19450187 >Borges reading Well, if I chase two birds, I'll catch none. I also am a little wary of your intent to "help."

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 17:36:46 No.19450413 File: 86 KB, 1240x336, Gohda.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Rise and shine Gohdafags

Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 17:38:23 No.19450428

>>19450226
Absolutely. We can start whenever you like. You should take some time to revise your understanding of Umineko and question even your most elemental paradigms, since that's an important essence of philosophizing, especially when we're voyaging to the outskirts of metaphysics to feel the final barrier.

>>19450323
I don't understand why you would be wary. In such a passionate fanbase around an almost literary work with many initially esoteric influences, people have an innate desire to integrate what the story teaches them better, and to learn best from any story requires too a skilled reader. This is for those impassioned students who found a draw to the universal and celestial where there was once nothing. And for those students, who've found something special in Umineko, I reward their willpower through some literary and philosophical guidance, because a lot of this is lost in history and because I love seeing people exact their will to catalyze immense personal and material shifts out of zero. There's nothing more heartful than the will.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 17:38:41 No.19450429 >>19450413 I always knew this day would come

Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 17:44:38 No.19450481

>>19450428
The implications of the origins Beltane Festival - and as Wittgenstein says, the probability of the origins - disturb me.

It makes me think that those who are genuinely into the occult do do such things that /pol/ memes about. Human sacrifice, blood sacrifice, etc. For if one is has convinced one's self that magic exists - or perhaps even only partly convinced one's self - then the temptation to "escalate" a ceremony must be high.

Or perhaps to put it in layman's terms: Fuck off, Satan.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 17:50:03 No.19450538 >>19450481 Nothing wrong with human sacrifices though

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 17:53:02 No.19450559 File: 37 KB, 188x149, 196b949afbb281a8b0eee64de2ccb0f8222265112acb516405a9df75380cfa52.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>19450538

Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 17:58:52 No.19450597
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>>19450481
I don't know /pol/ memes, and it's not about occultism anyway. Regardless of your philosophical position, there is no justification for human sacrifices or any other criminal act. Also, that's low magic/thaumaturgy, which is a far cry from the actual magic we find in these philosophers and their sage predecessors. It's in line with metaphysics first, but some occult principles are useful analogues for understanding the real magic. In fact, between philosophy, spirituality, literature, and occultism, occultism was always much more peripheral than the others, but it's useful for understanding the magic in Umineko. What you're afraid of isn't even related. Magic exists, but not as people, and especially purist occultists, think. But these are still all pivotal to a wholesome understanding of Umineko.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 18:03:47 No.19450630

>>19450597
If that's what you truly believe, then fine, I apologize for speaking out of turn. Reading between the lines of Frazer, however, I can't help but feel the centerpiece is the cruelty of the "betrayal with a kiss" that the oatmeal cake ordeal involves.

Extending that further, it feels like cruelty itself is the point, which is something I simply can't tolerate, nor is it something I wish to understand further.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 18:12:21 No.19450687

>>19450630
>>19450630
Don't worry about it, really. It's good to scrutinize what you read, but what I do here is out of compassion, since I used to be very literarily ignorant before changing that revolutionized my life in ways I'll never forget. It's for the posterity, and because I genuinely love willpower and fortitude (that's part of why I like Lambdadelta so much). This is actually a strong passion for me.

As for Wittgenstein, it's important to read Schopenhauer first. Wittgenstein makes clear his importance; he's not ancillary.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 18:21:41 No.19450738

>>19450687
If it's anything to ya, I believe in magic. So far it's been nothing but a big pain in the ass, so I'm stuck between wanting absolutely nothing to do with it, and reading more into it as a form of control.

Which might in fact be an obvious trap

Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 18:34:31 No.19450792

>>19450481
I wont say you aren't incorrect in theory, but in practice humans are pretty hard-wired to avoid causing harm or doing things with negative repercussion, even if only from a karmic standpoint.

Elevating ceremony to the levels you are imagining can and I supposed does happen but its incredibly rare considering the billions of people who study and practice the occult. I would also argue that someone ready to transcend the limits of humanity is prepared to use the taking of life and sacrifice as a tool of elevation even without the occult (which can provide structure and decorum). Something as crude as a spree shooting + a manifesto from the Supreme Gentleman is tapping into the kinds of forces you are shitting on occultism for.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 18:34:46 No.19450794 File: 493 KB, 1024x768, 278b7b358653379eaa0b26d791dde010.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Aren't they just so cute together?

Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 18:41:00 No.19450833

>>19450187
Speaking of Borges I'm also an anon that bought Ficciones because of you, I haven't posted about it here but I loved it (especially Tlon uqbar orbis tertius, circular ruins, the lottery in Babylon and an examination of the work of Herbert Quain)
I hadn't read any real book in a while and now I'm back at it, I bought Vladimir Nabokov's Pale Fire and Mark Z. Danielewski's House of Leaves last week because I heard they were good meta/postmodern books (and House of Leaves premise seemed inspired by Borges' fictional critics) have you read those? (nospoilersplease)
In any case, thanks lambdanon.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 18:41:56 No.19450837

>>19450792
and to expand further, if you are thinking of untouchable politicians and wealthy elite and their "spirit cooking" and secret grove meetings or whatever pizzagate stuff you think might be going on, just remember these people are responsible for having people killed on a regular basis and had no value for human life in the first place. They aren't eating children because the occult, they are into occult stuff that has you eating children because they were already those kinds of creatures.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 18:43:11 No.19450849

>>19450792
I suppose I’m approaching it from a blunt perspective. If there is power in sacrifice, then the greater the sacrifice, the greater the power.

If occult believes the first axiom - that there is power derived from sacrifice - I just think deeper sacrifice is an inevitability.

Of course this is also the entire basis of Christianity, since what sacrifice is greater than God himself?

But I’m not into sacrifice of life. Of time and of effort, sure. Anything else seems distorted - unnecessary at best and flat out malicious at worst

And I view the Supreme Gentleman as a meaner, less successful Yasu, so no arguments from me there

Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 18:50:15 No.19450898

>>19450849
>If there is power in sacrifice, then the greater the sacrifice, the greater the power.
Magical truths reflect universal ones. There is undoubtedly power in sacrifice, just look at how our world is set up? Powerful ripples are released from sacrificing life no matter the convention, its just how things are. The satanism scare of the 80s turned out to be a lot more about degenerate drug addicts who liked drawing edgy pentacles rather than any authentic type of occultist ritual.

I won't be disingenuous and pretend like things like O.N.A. don't exist, but even they have all sorts of rules and conditions for their extreme stuff like not targeting "innocents"and ritual murders are incredibly personal and secretive and are not self-perpetuating unlike someone who see an incel mow down his school and transcend the level of mere mortals after death thanks to the media and scale of the massacre.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 20:00:11 No.19451367 haha hello my friends please direct your attention here for just a moment! >>>/wsg/2300929

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 21:55:23 No.19451980 File: 58 KB, 803x957, 1530887173159.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 22:10:08 No.19452046 I wonder what Maria's daddy thought of the Rokkenjima incident.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 22:22:41 No.19452113 >>19452046 What if the next chapter focuses on him and how he's captured by the witches too!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 22:55:58 No.19452239 >>19452046 Hes probably glad that he didnt divorce because he gets all of Rosa's money.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 23:30:15 No.19452362 I wanna marry Rosa! Then I'll kill her and marry Maria once she's old enough! Then I'll repeat the same process with Maria's children!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 17, 2018 23:31:57 No.19452368 >>19452362 k-kinzo stop

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