/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>50557779
>monero-chan married to her bags
based

>>50557779
imagine pimping your wife

>>50557779
I've got a rough version of Monero Place BBS (https://monero.place) online now. So far It's got:
-access via SSH, Telnet, and the web
-topic specific messageboards & conference rooms
-inter-bbs live chat
-terminal games via DoorParty

I'm also working on including rooms for Monero price-feeds, adoption statistics, bridges to other BBSes, file upload & download, and commissioning new Monero-themed art for the BBS. Also hoping to make a text/ANSI based, Monero-themed game in the future.

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>50503029

STOP MINING IN MINEXMR
>START MINING IN P2POOL
STOP MINING IN MINEXMR
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shutdown/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't; It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. When P2Pool reaches 51% of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.


YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL DIRECTLY FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET!

If you have a PC or laptop:

1. Download Monero GUI
https://i.imgur.com/ZGefPef.png

2. Pick 'Advanced' mode
https://i.imgur.com/4c0uSE4.png

3. Set up your wallet
https://i.imgur.com/4lMKh00.png

4. Keep the default Daemon settings "Start a node automatically in the background"
https://i.imgur.com/maACmmT.png

5. Once sync'd, go to Advanced->Mining and pick 'P2Pool'. If you have a laptop or low-end PC (~50 kH/s) pick "Mini" pool, else pick "Main"
https://i.imgur.com/E60JeMG.png

P2Pool-compatible remote nodes if you do not have your own local copy of the blockchain:

>p2pmd.xmrvsbeast.com - (Western Europe) (rpc-port 18081, zmq-port 18083)
>myxmr.net - (Northern Europe) (rpc-port 18081, zmq-port 18083)

OTHERWISE SWITCH TO A SMALLER POOL, IT TAKES YOU 30 SECONDS AND YOU CAN JUST SOURCE A DIFFERENT CONFIG FILE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FUCK UP YOUR EXISTING ONE.

Many inexperienced miners think that big pools give better profits which is not the case. Your profits in the long run depend only on your hashrate, not on the pool's hashrate.

https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.


>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://monero.com/marketplace
https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/
https://acceptedhere.io/catalog/currency/xmr/

>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/


>Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors

>AlphaBay
http://alphabay522szl32u4ci5e3iokdsyth56ei7rwngr2wm7i5jo54j2eid.onion

>Asur Market
http://asuradsh6gbnppvmsqyfumjdux7iwwo54w5tkgcdspjsnvcm6oepxvqd.onion

>Chimera Market (recently launched, exercise caution)
http://chimera4sbuapqzajx2d3sptk3sazz5gc5pzstaistvasegw3nepv3qd.onion

>Cloud Market (recently launched, exercise caution)
http://cloudfyy4q5qdgupqe4ne2pkccpy7xkizpntlaeopensdpy53ywswkad.onion

>FilthyFellas
http://filthygerfvjetqrkjg2mpsqhepmb2ndrhhj6n3266ju4xh6uir2kiad.onion

>Mellow Market (recently launched, exercise caution)
http://mellownx5c2tkrmrvvsnbfdnm3zvp6ozqdyuwwtgd7ivaae5noavwoad.onion

>Retro Market (recently launched, exercise caution)
http://retrom75eccxmlh2sg6xkfv4hp7y6nwoqkdilgckxqlvon4rmefk5nid.onion


>Poker Club: play no-limit Texas Hold'em in real time with 2-8 players over the safety of Tor with the privacy of Monero! No user account required.
http://dreadytofatroptsdj6io7l3xptbet6onoyno2yv7jicoxknyazubrad.onion/d/PokerClub


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://magicgrants.org/funds/monero/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

Reporting in

tor irc- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/tzm4s
Aliases- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/bjbx3
Extras- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/daxte
Nodes- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/ke2k8
Mining- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/c7na4

>The irrational exuberance of cryptocurrency investors

Irrational exuberance is characterized as a hype-fueled mania that causes investors to massively overestimate an asset's real-world value. In this delusional state, investors tend to become so smitten with expectations of greater profits that they disregard the assets’ potentially weak fundamentals and drink the proverbial Kool-Aid.

This then leads to them recklessly and repeatedly buying into whatever asset is currently rising in the charts, thereby triggering and/or sustaining an asset bubble. This bubble is kept inflated solely by the mass delusion that the market price is justified and will only keep going up in future, effectively becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Note that bubbles can last for years, especially in an age of easy investor on-boarding. However, when history inevitably repeats and the bubble bursts that optimism invariably turns into panic as the asset crashes back down to its real-world value.

In finance, the "greater fool theory" suggests that one can sometimes make money through the purchase of overvalued assets—items with a purchase price drastically exceeding the intrinsic value—if those assets can later be resold at an even higher price.

In this context, one "fool" might pay for an overpriced asset, hoping that he can sell it to an even "greater fool" and make a profit. This only works as long as there are enough new "greater fools" willing to pay higher and higher prices for the asset. Eventually, investors can no longer deny that the price is out of touch with reality, at which point a sell-off can cause the price to drop significantly until it is closer to its fair value, which in some cases could be zero.

This effect is often further exacerbated by herd mentality, whereby people hear stories of others who bought in early and made big profits, causing those who did not buy to feel a fear of missing out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g

>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

>>50557819
Also, I'll set up an anon account in 1 second, for people who want to login without creating an account.

Is there anybody in XMR who would know how to get monero integration with businesses on Koschertified grocery lists? Not sure what would be the first business move to get more NKC products available to XMR payments. In case it needs to be said: paying the kosher/halal tax sucks quite egregiously. http://www.koschertified.com/

>>50557819
>>50558013

Awesome, I'll add it to the Info-Dump once its fully fleshed out and running.

If my id is orange, XMR to become global reserve currency within next 2 years.

>>50558227
>global reserve currency

That's never going to happen, for ANY crypto. But XMR is well-placed to become the defacto standard for the global shadow economy, especially once cash is phased out and CBDCs are rolled in.

>>50558271
If anyone needs translation services, I’m at your request. I no longer will make 0.11 word mandatory, since I know some people don’t want to pay that much even though it’s the minimum rate. I’m part of a translation group that does up to fifteen languages

>>50558271
Whoops, didn’t mean to quote you on my post here >>50558746

So if anyone here is interested, please let me know

>>50557779

guys guys i just had an idea when i was hanging on pol and someone wanted a ded fauci

pic related

post on pol:

>>388292078

''>>388290926

make a smartcontract where people can anonymously donate Monero(ticker: $XMR) and then when there's let's say 3kk in the fund, someone goes and stabs the guy, takes a picture and uploads it to the blockchain as NFT.

Then you could use a random oracle network to confirm the death from news sources, and the uploader of the original dead fauci NFT (chosen by Kleros jurors) gets X amount of almost untrackable privacy token monero for his good deed for mankind.

you could do the same for all the other shits fucking up our planet. you know who im talking about.., hunger games irl / natural selection / stop fucking up our planet and our lifes for fucks sake

LETS GOOO!

i must now post this idea on /biz/ and ask them how to profit from it

HAVE A NICE DAY!''

could it really be possible to do this with the blockchains and chainlink oraclez TM


and most importantly, how can we profit from this? except it would create some kind of natural selection in which the evil people die because vote and donate XMR for the cause?

pls discuss

(also save this post cus it changed the timelines again lmao)

>>50559046
Go back

>>50559046
they will use this against us
and targets will fake their own death like epstein and mcafe did to slurp the reward

>>50559046

>Trusted technology, growing adoption

Zcash was launched by one of the most respected technical teams in the world.

Zcash is the 'https of blockchains,' protecting your freedom to save and spend as you like.

Zcash was the first project to implement zk-SNARKs, a novel form of zero-knowledge cryptography that gives its users the strongest privacy available in any digital currency.

Multiple, independent organizations are funded to innovate on Zcash.

Zcash is already available on top exchanges, digital wallets and a growing number of applications.

>>50559246
despite forced adoption by literal glowies, it still has failed to actually be used for anything meaningful. neat!

>>50559046
this isn't even a new concept
in fact, it was done with bitcoin in 2013 minus the smart contracts ofc
naturally, it was a scam
see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_market
fucking newfags

>>50543343
>>50543574
>>50547350
>>50548507
I did something

I want to help monero blockchain become stronger but i don't want to mine. I don't want to waste electricity nor processing power. Would it be possible to just help with the transactions by keeping an updated blockchain but without the mining? sorry if i'm not making myself very clear.

>>50559398

Nicely done!

>>50559407

Run a node.

>>50557779
Her nails are disgusting almost as much as not owning an unknown amount of XMR or any other privacy coin.

>>50559398
Based, saved and checked, great work anon.

>>50559392

noo but it would be anon-crowdfunded and backed by chainlink oracles to provide proof of ded

i just made a thread about it and i really think it could work

(they) fucked up with our planet and our lifes for way too long. will you wait till the 10th mandatory booster shot and just do nothing until then?


>>50559468

>>50559468

have a nice day

>>50559398
BASED.

saved & donated.

>>50557779
who is this semen demon?

>>50559575
thank you very much, sir

I miss Myon-anon ;_;
here is some OC I made in gratitude of them

>>50559398
dang, that was quick...

>>50557779
What's crackin' everybody. So I was wondering if anyone figured out a way to host two wallets on one system. I know we've got sub-wallets but let's say I hypothetically wanted to make a wallet then delete it shortly after. Any way to achieve this?

>>50557779
She's cute.

>>50560398
What is preventing you from making a second wallet the same way you make the first wallet and then just deleting it when you're done?

>>50560398
Create a wallet and then delete the wallet data on your computer. As long as you have the seed phrase you will be able to reopen the wallet in the future.

>>50559398
would you be interested in collaborating with the xmr art fund? We want to make a monerochan with a bobo/mumu/snib hat and your doodle style would be perfect for that.

>>50559398
sent a tip, good work

>>50559398
>begging

>>50561679
god forbid people transact their monero in exchange for memes, amirite??

wanneer worden we rijk jongens?

Fuck Jannies

>>50557779
3dpd

XMR is like 8 year old tech lmao

Why are you wasting your money on this shit?

>50565705
because you're a midwit faggot who posts like a woman

>>50557779
Who is this semen demon, need source now

>>50565799
Tongue my anus and monerope urself

>>50565705
Gold and silver is like a multiple million year old tech lmao
Why are you wasting your money on this shit?

>>50557779

What's the make it stack?

>>50566516
You'll need roughly 21000000 xmr to make. Good luck anon

>>50566516
to be honest, Anon, even if you'll aqcuire a 'make-it stack' you will still would not have 'made it' as you are perpetually trapped in a Mass Survailence State.
:/

I like the "on the ground" approach of Monero. Something that some of the people who follow Bitcoin seem to have lost along the way.

>>50557779
>wedding ring
Bet I have a bigger dick than her husband.

Testing something, my last VP9 Webbums didn't work on mobile. I think it has something to do with the pixel encoding being YUV444 instead of YUV420.

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1658835103165134.webm

Can someone explain to me why PoW is better than PoS? (ie why monero keeps PoW)

>>50557843
5. Once sync'd, go to Advanced->Mining and pick 'P2Pool'. If you have a laptop or low-end PC (~50 kH/s) pick "Mini" pool, else pick "Main"

This is implying a low end PC should get 50 kH/s. I have a 24 thread 5900X but my hash rate is 6500 H/s

>>50568058
PoW seperates the consensus mechanism/security model from the actual coins themselves. As an incentive miners are paid in coins so that they make money doing so, but the actual coins themselves have no "use" internally to the system. You trade them or buy stuff with them. Because the coins themselves have no relation to the security model, you don't have to worry about whale bag percentages or even market sentiments.

In PoS the coins in part operate as the security model, it is a circular system. The argument for it is that it prevents spending large amounts of electricity (contrary to popular belief, PoS has no relation to throughput and does not increase TPS numbers whatsoever). The problem of having a "circular" and largely internal security system like this is that you have absolutely no way knowing what (large) coin holders have long or short positions on the underlying asset. Both the existence of derivatives (e.g. shorts, longs, futures contracts, etc.) and the fact that so many coins are held by exchanges turns the security model on it's head. For example a financially insolvent exchange might not have enough coins to pay off a large hole in it's balance sheets but it could hypothetically have enough coins to enter a massive short position and then use all the coins under it's control to vote to harm the network, collapsing it's value but making the short seller a larger profit than just acting honestly.

Furthermore, you cannot have permissionless onboarding in a PoS system, as the only way to get coins is to be given them by someone else who has them. IN a PoW system, it is not possible to gatekeep people out of the network because no one can stop you from mining your own coins independent of if you got blacklisted from every single exchange, dex, and even person on the entire planet. PoS and PoW are fundamentally distinguised as being a
>permissioned
system versus a
>permissionless
system

>>50557779

>>50568249
Thanks a lot Anon

>https://www.monerochan.art/
'Rising phoenix-girl' came out cute, but not quite as phoenix-y as I was hoping. Gonna give another artist a crack at it.

Last active project is the 2nd cosplay shoot (seamstress is almost finished with the outfit). Please send some spare change to the fund if you enjoy the art. And I'm always on the lookout for new commission ideas.

>>50570358
what would a phoenixmr-chan look like anyway?

>>50570894
Wrapped in flames in the shape of her usual dress. More fire-y and less explosion-y.

>tradfi markets meltdown
>raising interest rates
>crashing yield platforms
>stablecoins cracking
>its still holding sats on a terrible year of global finance

wtfwt?!

>>50571830
I'm disappointed. Quick, buy more so it dumps to at least $120.

>>50571830

>>50570358
Ask and it shall be given.

>>50570358
cute & funny Monero-chan

>she doesn't hold wownero

0.007, yeah I'm thinking we're back

Look at those fucking sats.
God that's hot.

>shills Monero for privacy reasons

>uses Google or Bing as search engine
>uses Google Chrome as browser
>uses the DNS server of his ISP
>uses NordVPN and pays with paypal or no VPN at all
>has never changed his browsers "internet privacy and safety" settings
>uses windows, MacOS
>doesnt exclusively use FOSS
>has multiple smart devices in his home

I know some of you are like this, show yourselves

>>50574147
>use Google
>no VPN for normal web browsing
>some non-free stuff
>have smart devices in my LAN with home assistant

You can use Tor if you need privacy
I also pay by card when I go grocery shopping anon
no need to wear a mask every time you leave your house, it's okay to only wear it in crowded spaces

>>50574191
> it's okay to only wear it in crowded spaces

lmao faggot

>>50574147
Or my favorite

>reusing passwords
>password is (PETS NAME)(BIRTH DATE) or (INITIALS)(BIRTH DATE)

>>50574147
I do use Google as a search engine usually, but search engines suck anyways.
I also shill Monero because of more than just privacy. Thinking Monero is only about privacy is a brain let take.

>>50574147
>no VPN at all

I use wireguard to connect my phone to my LAN. You really don't need a vpn for much of anything when tor and i2p exist for free

>>50575069
my password is nigger

I honestly don't get the appeal of long nails.

>>50557816
based if you get paid in monero

>>50573712
My god!
The cuteness is killin me!

>>50570358
She is the love of my life.
>TFW married to my bags and happy.

>>50573712
Holy shit. The guy who did it is a legend.

>>50576193
kekd

https://moneroj.net/article/A-deep-dive-into-Monero-metrics/

Good fucking read, bros.

>>50576617
based lolinero poster and a really good read. Thanks anon!

>>50575475
>I do use Google
https://searx.space

sexy

>>50570358
Booba looks kinda wierd.

Buy Zcash if you actually want to make it, Monero chuds keep flooding the airwaves with FUD to scare people away but make no mistake, Zcash is the future.

ZKP or bust.

>>50578012
if only the ratio reflected the price..

>>50579239

Look at litecoin transaction vs bitcoin price, also has no correlation

>>50578012
Are we close to those estimates? We've been breaking ATH recently.

WHY IS IT PUMPING!! I SOLD 1 MONERO AT 141 dollars and was hoping to buy back in lower what the fuck!!!!

>>50579134
ZEC was 0.5 XMR 2 month ago, costs 0.33 XMR right now. No thanks.

Does anyone know the date when the Darknet Bible recommended Monero only?

hey hows everybody's day going?

>>50579990
The flibbening is now and it is glorious.

>>50565916
https://www.monerochan.art/cosplay1.html

>>50557779
death to bears

>>50580378
wtf im buying monero now

>>50580378
NOOOO IT CANT START NOW!! I HAVE LESS THAN 5 XMR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W_Ja7SQD60

>>50580378
This is definitely one of the cutest Monerochans.

>>50580378
I <3 Monero-chan

>>50580198
i think it came with the release of darknet bible v2 late last year

>>50580862
>tummy

Its crazy how Monero is moving on its own. Finally a crypto that isnt held down by kingshitcoin.

>>50567066
Excellent.

>>50574147
I do and there's nothing you can do about it

>>50580999
>not knowing how to take a screenshoot
Let me guess, windows user?. Madlad!.

>>50580999
If I post my XMR address will you send me some? Please? I am a poorfag

>>50581146
No. I hate beggars.

>>50581167
what if I post sharpie in pooper? I am an attractive female

>>50580999
damn yo

monero order books thin on the sell side too. at least give a friendly heads up to the retards here if you decide to exit quickly thx!

>>50580999
nice stack and digits. i'm xxxx myself, didn't think there'd be someone in this general with more xmr than me

>>50580999
>full retard
>does not even know what a screenshot is

>>50580914
We'll see. If it gets to ATH while BTC is still in a bear cycle, then it will truly be free.

>>50581272
I'm not gonna enable thots. They ruin society.
>>50581343
Based. I'l reach my 5 digit goal soon.

>>50580999
Checked. You are the epitome of the left side of the bell curve meme.

>>50581486
>five digit goal
Damn son you two both are giga whales. I'm still in 2 digit stack world.

>>50581518
Honestly the only "bad" thing I do in that list is using Windows but I'm using a hardware wallet anyway and that remote node is not really a remote node but my home server.

>>50580999
>open paint
>add digit to monero stack
>save as jpg
>open jpg
>take pic

I sinned and sold some to buy another coin which seems low and will integrate xmr in the future.

>>50557924
The cost of mining only exists to keep bitcoin issuance at a fixed rate. Bitcoin doesn't become more likely to be double-spent when the hashrate goes down.

>>50580999
>he disclosed?

>>50580877

>>50580508
>>50580508
Based. Will send this to clients from now on when they ask.

>>50565705
monero will have a network upgrade in august; it is being constantly improved and doesn't remain stagnant in terms of technology.

>>50580123

When ZEC flips XMR the butthurt will be exquisite.

REMINDER TO MINE ON P2POOL (MINI)
>REMINDER TO MINE ON P2POOL (MINI)
REMINDER TO MINE ON P2POOL (MINI)
>REMINDER TO MINE ON P2POOL (MINI)

>>50585564
Make a ZEC thread or we will make you one

>>50586548
no one would reply or it all would be him samefagging

this is by far one of my favorite cryptos. i just hate that I can access it simply for tax purposes. tradeorges platform input into coin tracker sucks

>50585564
gtfo you fucking tranny nigger i'll fucking find where you live, kill you and eat your soul.

>>50578012
The transactions are pumping my basterds

>>50581272
Do it whore

>>50580476
I liked it better when it was just the eyes and the rest of the face was covered up, sadge

>>50586548
>Make a ZEC thread or we will make you one

I love how much they fear that, ZEC threads do nothing but reinforce Zcash's shitty reputation.

MONERO NETWORK UPGRADE (HARDFORK) A Short History Of Monero Network Upgrades, and What The Upcoming Network Upgrade In August 2022 Means To You!

https://twitter.com/johnfoss69/status/1552268149466480640

when’re we getting rich lads

>>50588001
>TFW already rich.

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1658575311769600.webm

>>50587500
>literally a tranny coin
>Ze
ahahahaha

>>50587876
you forgot:
>the
>MONERO NETWORK UPGRADE (HARDFORK) A Short History Of Monero Network Upgrades, and What The Upcoming Network Upgrade In August 2022 Means To You!
>is OUT NOW
>grab a coffee, sit back and relax!

>>50589439
nice webm

>>50576617
The supply inflation charts look very bullish

>>50590242

Question on XMR transaction rates (number of transactions)

They assume RingCT counts, and divide transacting addresses per block accordingly, correct?

Example: This month projects about 1mill total transactions. That's 1million actual, not "1 million" seen, but actually 1mill / Number in Ring?

>>50590754

1 TX = 1 TX.

RingCT only deals with shielding amounts. No addresses appear anywhere on the blockchain

>>50587876
better link
https://nitter.it/johnfoss69/status/1552268149466480640

>>50582143
>>50582143
Rune?

>>50587876
Does this mean XMR -> BTC atomic swaps will be enabled?

>>50557779
monero stacy

>>50589439
nice, post more of these if you have king. i share them in many places

>>50587500
they tried several times to make one but no one would reply. they only exist through Monero threads
>ALWAYS IGNORE ZCASH SHILLS. REPLYING TO THEM AND GIVING ATTENTION TO THEM IS WHAT THEY WANT. IGNORE THEM AND NEVER GIVE THEM ANY (You)

So remember that new Monero-only market that launched just last week (Mellow Market)? Well, its already not the latest one, YET another one launched last night: Deadmoon. Pic related.

The abandonment of Bitcoin on the darknet is now snowballing like a motherfucker, I've never seen this many Monero-only markets launch in such a small span of time: 4 in literally just the past month. This puts the current number at 8, which is roughly half of all DNMs currently online.

To put all that into perspective: as recently as November 2020 there were exactly 0 Monero-only markets, Bitcoin had a 100% acceptance rate. This means that in the space of just 18 months Bitcoin has lost roughly half of its market dominance to an altcoin most people have never heard of. Muh "Bitcoin has no competition".

Coupled with the the steady rise in XMR ransomware demands and Monero already overtaking Bitcoin in US CoinCards sales, not to mention the growing use of Monero for big-money transatlantic cocaine deals, I think its safe to say that Monero's time is rapidly approaching, the next few years are going to be *very* exciting.

TL;DR: everybody that missed out on Bitcoin, THIS is your one and only second chance.

>>50592552

Oops, its Darkmoon, not Deadmoon!

>>50590754
>They assume RingCT counts, and divide transacting addresses per block accordingly, correct?
Nope, ring signatures are part of ringCT and make it so there are several cryptographically plausible sources for the funds for the given transaction. So 1 transaction is just that one transaction. And 1 million transactions are indeed 1 million transactions. Furthermore, ring signatures are only one part of ringCT, and there are other parts to it, like amount hiding, or stealth addresses. The first one, as the name implies, hides the amounts in the transaction, and the second one hides the recipient's address so it doesn't appear on-chain.
>>50592229
Then problem solved, in the case a retarded zcash shill comes in, if there is no z-cash thread create one, if there is one, report the post for rightfully being off-topic. Meanwhile the thread can die peacefully with under 10 unique posters. Rinse and repeat until they find another hobby.

>>50592552
Wow nice info anon. Thanks.

>>50592667
Yeah, I'm thinking we're based.

you do have a wownero bag, right anon?

>>50594229
You gotta let go man.
You shill this garbage every thread.
Nobody is buying your bags.
You missed on animal coins meta and wow won't go to the moon.

>>50592552
>TL;DR: everybody that missed out on Bitcoin, THIS is your one and only second chance.
DELET THIS

>>50592552
>I think its safe to say that Monero's time is rapidly approaching, the next few years are going to be *very* exciting.
Indeed, it's going to be a fun ride. Monero's growing adoption is both undeniable and unstoppable. That's what happens when fundamentals come first.

>>50595001
Dude relax, are you new here? Wownero is the meme little sister of Monero. It sometimes serves as a testenet for new or upgraded technology before being implemented on xmr. WOW is acceptable.

>>50559046
/pol and /biz are boards of peace. Mongorian weaving and prices are the only true feeling.

I am excited, interested, and a little scared at recent news bros

>>50565705

>>50566732
>surveillance

There was a webinar put on by CipherTrace/Mastercard today for the healthcare sector. About half the presentation was explaining different ERC-20 token pump and dumps with medical-sounding names.
I asked a question, and surprisingly they read part of it and came up with this answer.

:51 - "but we can see transactions now"

https://voca.ro/1eNwWwf2DT0N

>>50573712
based

>>50596066
The vulnerabilities of ring signatures are already well understood. Check out breaking Monero.
They can not "see transactions". What they can do is mark poisoned outputs and then keep track of when those outputs are used in ring signatures. But this isn't something that is deterministic. It requires a lot metadata and an individual repeatedly withdrawing from a kyc exchange. The irony of all of this is that Monero isn't listed on every exchange, would would improve the dataset that chain analysis companies can work with.
So before the small brained retards take this the wrong way, no, Monero isn't broken and also there is no such thing as perfect privacy, so it's important to study Monero if you have a high threat model.

>>50596066
TAKES A LOTTA BIG BRAINS

>>50596066

Talking a lot, saying nothing. Something something "probabilities" i.e. still can't deterministically pinpoint the true spend.

Not to mention addresses and amounts are completely off the table.

Bottom line: they ain't got shit but they're frontin' like they do.

>>50595879
What specifically are you referring to?

>>50596066
"It involves a lot of probabilities."
So they have nothing. Exactly what >>50596220 said. Her analogy about pulling back the curtain on the blockchain is completely retarded because none of the links would ever be formed without probabilistic connections and metadata leaks. They have no access to some super secret way of breaking the underlying cryptography.

>>50596220
>>50596354
I enjoyed a good chuckle while listening to her response. Her lack of confidence in her words was apparent. I was tickled that they even entertained the question and read (part of) it, since I felt it would be obvious that it referenced the last time their CEO was embarrassed while caught lying about Ciphertrace's capabilities.

>>50597071
I wouldn't say it is nothing, it's just not that usable in real life situations. Once we see Monero listed everywhere then we will know they are actually making progress.

>>50597893
>Once we see Monero listed everywhere then we will know they are actually making progress.

Once? The exact opposite is happening.

>>50598021
bullish

>>50592552
>4 in literally just the past month
Make that Five in a couple of days.

>>50598340

Now a good time to sell? Looks juicy

>>50599011
>Now a good time to sell? Looks juicy

It's always a good time to sell.

>>50557779
noob here, why my xmrig says my ram is 2133 mhz when it is 3600 ?

>>50599408
your bios is limiting you most likely

>>50598021
Ironically they delisted because chain analysis companies lobbied for this. The kraken CEO confirmed that.
My point is that until they actually start pushing for Monero to be listed, we know they are talking out of their ass. And as you can probably guess, this lady is talking out of her ass lol.

>>50588001
2 more weeks anon, and metablox will blow your farts out

>>50580999
How have you acquired that much XMR?

>>50599523
i guess auto isn't ok, is it ?

>>50580999
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu anon i was so comfy with my 500xmr stack....

>>50599684
He's larping and using a test net faucet.

>>50599708
who isn't larping here ?

>>50599523
Thanks anon!!!! setted 3600 in bios and worked, auto mode sucks

Don't know why but something deeply compelled me to go ahead and drop in 10x the amount of my regular DCA buy maybe an hour ago.

We can dump now.

>>50600084

Based

>>50599708
The GUI client would actually say testnet next to the balance if that were the case

>>50592552
This.

does anyone have that meme of big black dude say YOUR NEXT NIGGA!

>>50592552
i like post like this

>>50592552
>This means that in the space of just 18 months Bitcoin has lost roughly half of its market dominance to an altcoin most people have never heard of.

Quite an understatement really. not all markets are equally popular. A quick survey shows XMR-only markets are more popular by far. With the collapse of hydra and most illicit usage of BTC with it, the time is right for a new currency like xmr to take over. I expect this dnm trend to continue simply because anyone who fights it is more likely to get arrested and shut down.

>>50592552
There is any monero market on zero net ? Would be hilarious

>>50599824
>Thanks anon!!!! setted 3600 in bios and worked, auto mode sucks
happy hashing, king

>>50568249
>As an incentive miners are paid in coins so that they make money doing so, but the actual coins themselves have no "use" internally to the system.
It's funny to think that the thing that people value the most out of cryptocurrencies are just a byproduct of the actual work that's being done. Though I guess you can argue that gold is just a byproduct of blasting tons of rock.

>>50568249
>Furthermore, you cannot have permissionless onboarding in a PoS system, as the only way to get coins is to be given them by someone else who has them.
It's sickening to think that no one has mentioned this anywhere you look about PoS. It's all about how "green" PoS is.

>>50574147
Nice try glowie.

>>50581272
Tits or gtfo

Never forget what this is all about.
https://youtu.be/QH7eytK6Vus

>>50602264
This one?

>>50606493
Based

https://odysee.com/@Deterrence-Dispensed-Media:6/Stronger_R:a?lid=5a280645ffd87715b4dd2cde6db9cb0042391c17
https://odysee.com/@cryptoanarchy:2/rip-jstark1809:c?lid=5a280645ffd87715b4dd2cde6db9cb0042391c17

>My 135 eur limit order got fullfilled yesterday
Wtf? I didn't know we crashed. Based anyway

>>50606961
>This one?

The original never gets old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMraFNuqkVI

>>50599977
Checked and heckin' saved

THE MONERO MOON (ISSUE 52) IS OUT NOW!

It covers all the latest Monero news throughout the past week in a curated fashion. Developments, tech, events, memes, general news, speculation, etc and more!

https://www.themoneromoon.com/p/the-monero-moon-issue-52

>>50599526
Could you please spoonfeed me regarding the kraken ceo's claims ?

>>50557819
Are you running SynchroNet or is this new BBS software?

>>50607497
Booker trying so hard to not lose composure will always be funny.

Possibly a dumb question, but if XMRig is more optimised for mining than the built-in miner in the GUI wallet, why doesn't the official wallet either a) copy XMRig's optimisations or implementation or b) integrate XMRig directly?

>>50608335
It looks like Enigma 1/2:
https://github.com/NuSkooler/enigma-bbs

>>50574147
If you are using any modern cpu you are owned at the hardware level, same if you connect to the internet
anything else is cope

>>50557779
how much link for a night out with her?

>>50559046
For starters, this glows to shit, kys.

Now, to address the technical feasibility of this purely hypothetical illegal activity, smart contracts are a bad idea because they open you up to a massive amount of attack surface. You're going to now have to make sure that whoever stabs Fauci is practicing good operational security (despite almost certainly knowing he's gonna get arrested), that the chain hosting your NFT has good privacy guarantees (LOL) that the Kleros jurors are impartial (good fucking luck) and that no one is fucking with the oracle network, which currently has trouble keeping track of the official TIME, a thing that any computer has been able to instantly know since 1985.

The idea works fine on paper, yes. But in order to work, each step adds complexity, opportunities for fraud, and a giant public paper trail that can get everyone involved thrown in jail. You're much better off just setting up a public wallet with visible view key as a crowdfund pot and manually sending the money to whoever offers proof that he did the deed. Yes, people will have to trust you more than they would your weird Kleros solution, but it also cuts out, like 90% of your attack surface.

>and most importantly, how can we profit from this?
This is why it's not going to work, too; when you're trying to enable assassinations, your first thought should not be "how can I extract money from this process as a middleman"?

>>50610735
What movie is this?

>>50611014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj_9CiNkkn4

>>50610939
>that the chain hosting your NFT has good privacy guarantees (LOL)
You can literally put an IPFS hash or an onion URL into an XMR transaction (I think, assuming it fits).

>>50611014
Zulu
>>50610851
>he doesn't hoard pre-IME Thinkpads for airgapped shitposting and wallet management

ahoy mateys when will we be awash in booty and plunder?

>>50612888
>ahoy mateys when will we be awash in booty and plunder?

Next Thursday.

>>50611794
If you're talking about tx_extra, devs keep making noise about removing it because of the variable length it has the capacity to add.

Regardless, this is still a better solution than NFT's because IPFS and onion links, you know, actually work.

>>50613228
Data in blockchain has a bazillion uses so I hope that, if they remove it, they still leave a bounded-size field at least. Even like 64 bytes would be plenty for most applications (like storing hashes of things).
>this is still a better solution than NFT's
This is literally an NFT.

>>50613112
ABG Monero-chan works way too well.

>>50574147
>uses Google or Bing as search engine
I host my own SearX instance
>uses Google Chrome as browser
Customized firefox
>uses the DNS server of his ISP
Does anyone do this? Even my 70yo parents have 8.8.8.8 (google) set up as their DNS. Don't know anyone that uses the ISP default DNS.
>uses NordVPN and pays with paypal or no VPN at all
I host my own Wireguard instance
>uses windows, MacOS
Arch
>doesnt exclusively use FOSS
I don't. I shell pirated non-FOSS software when necessary. There's no problem with using non-FOSS as long as you sandbox them and don't support them financially.
>has multiple smart devices in his home
Yes, homemade, self-maintained.

I also record and throttle my girlfriend's internet activity to influence her behavior. Instead of forcing her to watch a movie with me I just coincidentally throttle her traffic so that she gets frustrated and decides to watch the movie with me instead. In the evening when the dishes need to be done the internet suspiciously is down for maintenance while I have to do some things for work etc.

Being technologically gifted is a superpower and you shouldn't tell anyone about it because it allows you to influence people. I even went in and changed the youtube and twitter feed of her to influence her opinions on things. She used to be weirdly conservative but after removing jordan peterson and other shitheads she is becoming more and more liberal and in line with my own vision on the world.

>>50613303
No, NFT's are an issued token that can be transferred between wallets. TX_EXTRA is a data field in a transaction; it can only ever come from one wallet and be read by another. It's much more like sending an encrypted email than making an NFT.

>>50613312
>I even went in and changed the youtube and twitter feed
Unironically believed you up until this part; the problem with making shit up online is that you always get greedy and overstep and end up dropping something completely retarded in the last paragraph.

>>50613339
The UTXO is the NFT.
Well, it's non-fungible; granted maybe calling it a "token" is stretching it. But an argument could be made for treating it like a token by revealing the view keys for subsequent transactions to prove ownership of spends from that UTXO.

I suppose this is semantics, though, since in this case all that's needed is a token of ownership proving the origin of the photo upload, it doesn't actually need to be a transferable token.

>>50613312
>In the evening when the dishes need to be done the internet suspiciously is down for maintenance

>>50613406
Yeah, there are much easier ways to prove authorship with a private key than an NFT lmao.

>>50613445
Such as?
Remember that it doesn't just need to be proven, the proof needs to also be publicly broadcast. Making use of the monero blockchain is very convenient because it natively supports tor connections, it has mechanisms such as Dandelion to further preserve privacy of broadcasting, and in short order your message ends up on hundreds or thousands of nodes across the world and any one of them can be used to access the proof.
You could also just upload it to some hidden service on tor and have sort of comparable security, but then it's just sitting on a centralised server somewhere so people have to know where to look in advance and you trust that service to not go down before people archive it. You are also relying on just the security of tor without any extra layers, so if you happen to get caught in an active traffic analysis attack, you're done for.
And finally of course the private key you want to prove is that of the monero wallet to which you want to receive payment. So why not just sign something with your wallet directly and broadcast it on-chain, rather than requiring some off-chain server.

I control the only node in a 40+ mile radius

>>50613312
>also record and throttle my girlfriend's internet activity to influence her behavior.
I KNEEL...

>>50613955
how do you know

>>50613312
>Being technologically gifted is a superpower and you shouldn't tell anyone about it because it allows you to influence people. I even went in and changed the youtube and twitter feed of her to influence her opinions on things. She used to be weirdly conservative but after removing jordan peterson and other shitheads she is becoming more and more liberal and in line with my own vision on the world.
This. It's amazing how susceptible people are to brainwashing/mind control, and even if you tell them about it they don't recognize it. People live in their own personal realities and those realities can be manipulated.

I fully support the use of brainwashing for wives/gfs. The best thing you can do for yourself is cut out all advertising and propaganda (eg anything with an algorithmic feed and all """journalism""").

All hail Monero-chan.

>>50614599
monero.fail/map

>>50605171
>Though I guess you can argue that gold is just a byproduct of blasting tons of rock.
well, yes. gold is as expensive as it is partly because it is hard to mine. another reason is because it's scarce.
in theory, fair price for monero should be proportional to the electricity bill of the guy mining it. this is ignoring the scarcity and utility part of monero.

>>50615167
cost of production has moved a bit in the past month as my electricity costs went up.

Currently costing me ~180 USD to mine one monero, this is mining on 5950x's. You might be able to get the costs a bit lower if you're mining on a 3950x and have cheaper electricity.

>>50615550
i assume cost per xmr goes down as you scale your mining operation up to some point but yeah that is a somewhat fair price when we look at mining costs only.

>>50615624
Tends to scale linearly (mostly, two chips of the same model can perform somewhat differently, memory optimization can make your rigs a bit faster, but for the most part 14KH/s is 14KH/s, my profitability is more effected by who else is mining that day), but you do hit a point where it scratches the itch in monkey brain and makes it feel a lot more "worth it"

>>50613312
>I even went in and changed the youtube and twitter feed of her to influence her opinions on things
>>50613312
>e used to be weirdly conservative but after removing jordan peterson and other shitheads she is becoming more and more liberal and in line with my own vision on the world.

Groomer / control freak, doesn't like the guy calling on moral courage and calling out groomers and ideologs.

Other that that, based

>5-year Cup and Handle Pattern
>Breakout of XMRBTC. Heading to > 0.01
>Actual real world usage
>Bull pennant on the daily
>Mesaured move target is 9K.
>XMR going to be Over 9000

>>50613312
Imagine having a perfect tradwife and proceeding to corrupt her with your libshit, kys

>>50615903
Meh, even at 9k I wouldn't make it desu.
Fucking 3rd world country salaries

>>50616200
Gotta hustle anon. Find something you can do online and get paid 1st world rates.

>>50608335
Enigma, pretty new as far as BBS software goes, and still buggy, but it's written in node. Makes adding new mods pretty easy.

A few more pieces for the art theme should be done this weekend. Afterwards, I'll start on some tools, outputting price & adoption metrics to ansi files, maybe accompanying command-line tools like wttr.in for outputting Monero stats/graphs to the command line.

After that, a monthly community magazine might be nice, since I've also got the monero.press domain. Something like https://tmpout.sh

>ETC +36%
>BCH +28%
Uhm what?
Who is pumping this garbage?

>>50557779
finally, an authentic female and not some anime shit
>wagmi

>>50616200
kill yourself if you can't make it with a 55X opportunity.

>>50557843
imagine using GUI

>>50615903
>XMR going to be Over 9000
Could be higher, depending on the time frame.

>>50616806
just the usual suspects.

Pumping dead chains is a very easy way to P&D

Unlike Monero, Zcash is available on most major exchanges and isn't going to be outlawed into obscurity.

Choose wisely.

>>50617349
It's literally impossible to outlaw an idea.

>>50617305
this

>>50617360
orange fren, stop replying to literal psy ops posters

>>50617360
Heckin based and V for Vendetta pilled

>>50617360

Sure, but on/off ramps can be choked off and liquidity dried up, effectively killing your coin.

Zcash is fully compliant without sacrificing user privacy so you get the best of both worlds.

>>50617478

>>50617543
>Zcash is fully compliant

Yes, we're all well aware, trust me. Give our regards to the FBI.

>>50617360
An idea no, but a system can struggle. This is why it is so important to for example keep the hashrate geographically distributed, for which Monero stood the test during the large hashrate collapses.
>>50617619
At least make a good point, like "banning Monero from CEXes has achieved the opposite, and now several non-KYC on-ramps are being used which makes it even harder to have an insight into or control over Monero". Or better yet, don't feed the z-troll.

>>50617619

Compliant doesn't mean compromised, retard. Being a rebel is cool and all but it doesn't bode well for institutional adoption.

Clean it up jannies, Zniggers can start their own thread and cope with their dying cuck coin amongst themselves.

>>50617881

Sneed while you cope, faggot, we're only getting stronger.

>>50617969
Made you a general over at >>50618723

>>50617349
If I want a digital asset that I can spend anywhere and that has regulatory backing, I'll use the US dollar.

>>50580999
based retard

>>50618767

Nice try but you're not getting rid of us that easily.

Zchads = digital herpes

>>50618950

Zcash is exactly that but with ZKP.

>>50619578
>>50619465
What will it take for you to stop?

>>50619578

Nothing less than absolute victory.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2I8cBpsUnc
Listened to this whole thing at work today. Pretty good conversation but I was annoyed that his main concern regarding crypto is monetary policy - and spends a bunch of time criticizing the deflationary nature of BTC and most hyped cryptos - but never acknowledges that Monero is NOT deflationary and has pretty reasonable 'monetary policy' programmed in with the tail emission.

I think he's trying to say that there should be some democratic process or algorithm for adjusting the tail emission - which although I don't agree with it's a reasonable idea I guess.

Why are you retards responding to my obvious Mets trolls? Nobody uses zcash lol.

>>50619742
Meta*

>>50619742
To be fair Z-tards are so bad at memes that its impossible to distinguish a troll from one of their genuine attempts

>>50619742

You'd be surprised how widely used Zcash actually is.

>>50619788
Nobody who supports globohomo zcash posts on /biz/, especially during a bear market. During a bull run we can get some pajeets shilling anything but right now all the pajeets are gone.

>>50619837

Zcash is apolitical regardless of what the FUD fags are pushing.

>>50619662
The dog coin shills were more entertaining. Even the mithril threads were decent since they produced some good LOTR memes. But all you're doing is being annoying.

>>50619873

Translation: I can't handle dealing with a viable competitor.

>>50616806
If the main coins pump, the other shit will tho, simple as. Most of the top 100 coins have significant price correlation with Bitcoin, except Monero ofc.

>>50619873
Really hoping the jannies put their CP away and do their job, it's basically off topic spam at this point

>>50620059

How is it spam? I'm making the case for superior privacy tech in a privacy coin General?

>>50619871
>Zcash is apolitical
Israel is VERY political...

>>50600084
I just went back in for another helping.

In 5 years I doubt I'll discern between the monero I paid $100 for and the monero I paid $165 for.

>>50620130
>I'm making the case for superior privacy tech in a privacy coin General?
You are in the "/XMR/ Monero General", not a general all privacy coins general. The zcash general is over at >>50618723. This is literally off-topic spam at this point.

>>50620189
/biz/ jannies sleep until someone begs for money

>>50620189
Stop responding to the troll lol

>>50620156

The Israel FUD is flat out retarded. Get new material.

>>50620304
>these facts are inconvenient for me rn
They don't try to hide it. It's not fud.

>>50613312
>she is becoming more and more liberal and in line with my own vision on the world
This entire post was so fucking close to being dangerously based and then you end it with this. Imagine our disappointment.

>>50620189

If you faggots stopped raiding our Generals maybe we wouldn't feel the need to keep posting here.

Funny how that works, huh?

NEW THREAD: >>50620666
>NEW THREAD: >>50620666
NEW THREAD: >>50620666
>NEW THREAD: >>50620666
NEW THREAD: >>50620666
>NEW THREAD: >>50620666

every day that passes i take a little slice of my xmr stacks to buy more vita inu and floki inu

>>50620856
Thats becasue theres a new thread since this ones about to hit bump limit nigger

Linkies are the jannie approved spammers

>>50615800
I have a R5 2600 PC and an Intel 4000 notebook. I know a lot of things can vary, but do you think I could make it worthwhile to mine XMR or not?

>>50617543
Railgun isn't token gated. Meaning, you do not need to hold the token before you can use the platform or have access to privacy which is not the case with most privacy protocols that I know.