/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

It's fascinating to see how active and bloodthirsty NDF became in the past day the moment the yab wasn't related to Niji
They really have been so deprived of W's for the past year, they immediately pounced on this opportunity

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>80027333
is this a bot? I refulse to believe someone is going around posting this pic in every filian related thread.
>>80026899
op awful bait, here a pity (you)

[Anonymous No.]

>80026899
Obsessed schizo
>>80027333
>Spamming your comic in every single thread related to Filian

[Anonymous No.]

>>80026899
OP reminded me of a post I saw in another thread earlier so I'll just link that instead and call him a retard. >>79999808

[Anonymous No.]

>>80027548
>I refulse to believe someone is going around posting this pic in every filian related thread.
Think again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80027731
anon that's sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>80026899
>Niji getting dunked on for months
>Filian drama happens
>Nijisisters finally see a break so they go hard on Filian drama

>>80027722
The only people I've seen that truly dislike Filian are twatter pearl-clutchers who cry about racism; i.e., faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>80027965
You can just say you live in the Hololive bubble anon it's okay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80027965
there's also that one uppity henyafag that likes to interject any time he can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80027918
Listen, I could be grinding in FFXIV, or I could be posting the same image over and over again. Either way, I'll be entertained on this Friday night.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80028300
based
never stop, king

[Anonymous No.]

>79999808
seething 2view, stop shitting up /lig/ with your crabbing >>80006141

[Anonymous No.]

>>80027965
that's also the sister demographic

[Anonymous No.]

>>80028300
Maybe try elden ring? everyone and their mother seems to be playing it right now. Haven't played ffxiv since like shadowbringer. Is the new expansion any good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80028087
>henyafag
>on the side of twitter cancel party
Do they know?

[Anonymous No.]

if we rangeban filipinos this board and perhaps the entirety of western vtuber culture would become 10 times better overnight

[Anonymous No.]

>>80026899
SOS
save my zoomer oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>80028300
>two troon choices
unsurprising

[Anonymous No.]

>>80028300
It's Saturday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80028058
>If you dunk on niji and nijifags you must be a holofag
keep seething, sister

>>80028087
>there's also that one uppity henyafag that likes to interject any time he can.
lmao saw him in the cross-thread quote above

>>80028439
>that's also the sister demographic
based and redpilled. and they wonder why people love dunking on them

[Anonymous No.]

>>80028396
Snackers are the worst chat hoppers in /lig/ and everyone knows it and everyone hates them for it. This isn't some big secret. She interrupts other people's streams so she can make content for herself. She's basically a female Nux Taku

[Anonymous No.]

>>80028759
>She interrupts other people's streams so she can make content for herself
The henyafag appears

[Anonymous No.]

>>80026899
>get caught making merch without the creator's permission
>this is the ndf fault!!
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>80028892
Henya's not the only person she does this too though. The quoted tweet is even using a picture of Layna, who snackers had a weeks-long meltdown over because she dropped out of some event Filian was doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80026899
Isn't this technically a none issue since the model was open source to begin with? and even if it is an issue given the ammount of added toggles, the changes (Inb4 just a color change hurdur) the lack of interest from the models creator up till it became a somewhat profitable for them how would a possible court case pan out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80029254
You can't "open source" a 3D model, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80029032
I remember that. Layna, the girl who has a compromised immune system and chronic illnesses has to skip out an event that meets in-person because of people participating getting COVID. Snackers definitely had a normal reaction after that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80029254
The model is not open source and the license states what you can and can't do

[Anonymous No.]

>>80029619
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain

[Anonymous No.]

>>80026899
you got the wrong guy, this started in /lig/ and spilled over the moment they found out. Everyone calls /wvt/ and /asp/ a crab bucket, but /lig/ is a fucking shark tank of /here/ chuubas and the MINUTE someone fucks up like this it's a frenzy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80029732
That's not the same thing as open source.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80029032
>oh shit I've been found out, better try another angle

>>80029254
Technically not open source; she bought the rights to use it for monetized streams, however those rights don't apply to tangible products (i.e., toys, plushies, etc.). The creator does have authority to take action.

However, this drama has been drastically blown up by antis who have seen an opportunity to discredit and attack Filian, and likely dogpiled GoodSmile to wipe and delist everything when things likely would have been resolved behind closed doors (between Filian, GoodSmile, and Jingo)

[Anonymous No.]

>>80028300
jesus christ anon, hire a hooker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80030079
Believe it or not anon people can watch more than one thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80030388
I'm sorry for your loss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80030027
No but I'm not a pedantic autist and I used my brain to come to the conclusion that the term the original anon meant was "public domain" as it can be confused with "open source" by humans sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80030027
For a basic discussion on a Mongolian basket weaving board its close enough being pedantic is retarded and you should know better asspie-chan

[Anonymous No.]

>if you make fun of a retarded twitch whore royally fucking up you must love niji and hate hololive
?????

[Anonymous No.]

>>80030027
If you couldn't understand what anon meant by "open source" in that context, then you're either retarded or ESL

[Anonymous No.]

>>80026899
Snackers trying to blame Nijisisters so people stop paying attention to their oshi being a scam artist

[Anonymous No.]

>>80029254
you filian cucks are so fucking dumb

[Anonymous No.]

>>80031206
based snackers, nijisisters need to keep getting shit on

[Anonymous No.]

>>80031045
filian is not just some retarded twitch whore, stfu tourist

[Anonymous No.]

>>80031206
you sisters need any distraction you can get, we get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>80031045
too obvious

[Anonymous No.]

>>80029254
>and even if it is an issue given the ammount of added toggles, the changes
retard she barely changed shit
it comes with a bunch of add ons and she uses them
she doesn't own shit
get fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>80026899
>Me when I commit copyright theft

[Anonymous No.]

>>80030079
American copyright only protects the specific expression of the idea (rindo) in that tangible medium (3d model)
It does not protect the idea behind the expression.
The bar to claim a character is very high, and typically requires a combination of looks, characterization, and story.
Like a spider themed superhero wouldn't infringe on spider-man until they looked and acted like him.
The shit where companies sue over look alikes? Thats trademark law, or companies brow beating people into backing off with threat of legal disputes and trademarks have an extremely high bar, and need to be applied for.
Jingo can sue, and try to take it to court, but he probably won't win. Often threat of legal action is enough to get people to back off, since legal disputes suck, but it would probably be worth it for filian to fight it in this case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80032063
Yeah she is.

>>80032174
The grift of "thing i like is popular with hololive fans" is too obvious indeed

[Anonymous No.]

>>80027722
its an open secret that twitter sisters/vtweeters (niji's main demographic) despise filian. shes unironically the most hated vtuber on twitter for making a george floyd and hitler jokes while ignoring the drama it caused. they even brought up the drama in /nijiEN/ and tried false flagging in /haha/ and /mint/ to talk shit about filian. some of it is salty liggers, but this is mainly nijisharts who have hated filian for years

[Anonymous No.]

>>80028300
Well then, carry on shitposter, you go and shit up the board, the good ol' fashion way. God speed o7

[Anonymous No.]

>>80030079
>she bought the rights to use it for monetized streams
No she didn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80030683
>>80030747
>>80031170
You're using the wrong term, you mouth-breathing retards. Did you clowns drop out of school?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80032268
>Jingo can sue, and try to take it to court, but he probably won't win.
He already won lol
This stupid bitch admitted she never paid or bought the model. She never had any rights to make any money off it

[Anonymous No.]

>>80033316
She also admitted to being a terrorist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80032268
>American copyright only protects the specific expression of the idea (rindo) in that tangible medium (3d model)
That is absolutely not how it works you fucking moron

The character of Rindo is Jingo's intellectual property and IP transcends medium.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80033316
Stream income wasn't dependent on the model though. And at no point did she attempt to sell the pirated merchandise (the model). >>80032268's point still stands that the merch is out of scope. She would have to be literally selling the 3D model or products made using the model. But all merch she sold was made using new models and were marketed as a different character entirely. Yes, someone selling a superhero that superficially resembles Spiderman but paletteswapped, speaking in thick Russian accent, named Ivanho, is entirely fair use as long as they do not literally use Marvel's products to make their own products and resell them

[Anonymous No.]

>>80033719
good. the judge will give her life sentence as bonus

[Anonymous No.]

>>80033083
>anon makes a mistake
>people above 90IQ would understand what he meant based on context
>pedantic faggots screech to think they're smart

[Anonymous No.]

>>80033740
Yeah but they weren't selling "Rindo", they were selling Filian

[Anonymous No.]

>>80034156
Hey retard. If she actually did pirate the model she has to pay up everything she ever earned as filian , every single bit, every single donation, every single whatever the fuck
You best pray with your little 9 year old hands that she isnt this fucking retarded because she is not just fucked in the vtubing world but in life as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>80027572
NIJISEETHE

[Anonymous No.]

>>80033740
Thats trademark, not copyright. Much higher bar for trademark.
Even different versions of the same character will have different copyrights.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80034375
Maybe in your imaginary world, but in real life that isn't how it works. You should probably step away from the computer and calm down a bit

[Anonymous No.]

>>80034244
>take someone else's IP
>name it something different
>it is now a new thing
That's still not how it works

[Anonymous No.]

>>80034244
Who is using none of her(Filian) own assets. Every single tweak and color in that model is part of the base kit of sliders and costumes it comes with. The only unique thing here is the name that got slapped on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80034244
You mean the "Filian" which is actually just recolored Rindo that comes when you buy... Rindo? Pic related the file that comes with Rindo.
She changed nothing about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>80034244
And the "Filian" that was being sold was literally just a colour swap of "Rindo".
In the vast majority of cases, that's not transformative enough to even attempt to debate fair use/etc.

It would be me hue shifting an official Luigi model to have blonde hair and yellow eyes, calling him Sproingus and then claiming that i have the rights to it and its likeness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80034244
>But your honor, they weren't selling "Gawr Gura", they were selling "Filian"

[Anonymous No.]

>>80034523
>>80034536
Sorry, was "Rindo" performing for many months, or was Filian? Using a model doesn't grant the model creator total creative control over the performer, not even the original license states this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80034663
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>80034663
sorry bro
IP doesn't have squatters rights

[Anonymous No.]

>>80034375
>your honor, my client's fame was built on her character, the 3D model was secondary or even tertiary to her success. Here are examples
>case dismissed

[Anonymous No.]

>>80034663
you're too low iq to be in this conversation

[Anonymous No.]

>>80034730
I realize you're upset, but the legal system regarding copyright law is determined entirely by scope

[Anonymous No.]

This is now the second time this particular vtuber has gotten a public deal with a model that she didn't talk to the original artist about.

Mint, now this.

Just get a new model you stupid bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80033083
It's okay anon everyone here has some form of autism, yours is just stronger

[Anonymous No.]

Cant believe this random guy managed to steal Filian's model and make a doujin about her 3 months before Filian ever existed.... Can Filian sue him for copyright theft?!?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>80027333
Eh, I don't care. Filian has endeared herself to me with her flips and antics.
I say we all focus our hatred and disdain on the well deserving, like anyone from niji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80034523
>>80034536
By the way, I want to make an important point before I head out. Filian's usage of the Rindo model for streaming has been entirely within the scope of the license. The apparent point of contention is about merch. Under the rurus, there would be a problem if she literally resold the Rindo model or used it to make 3D figures. But all Filian merch was produced from scratch, without using the original Rindo model asset in any way. So this becomes a trademark design dispute, for which again, the bar is very high, especially for something like a catgirl wearing a sailor suit. Our Russian spiderman would easily pass muster, and there's a very strong argument that the Filian character is legally distinct from the Rindo character (who, again, was never the actual subject of the merch, which was marketed under the Filian brand, not the Rindo brand). If they had stated they owned Rindo and were selling Rindo merch, that would be a problem, but they did not do that

[Anonymous No.]

>>80035647
>If they had stated they owned Rindo and were selling Rindo merch, that would be a problem, but they did not do that
That is exactly what she did
https://x.com/filianIsLost/status/1797534860971843587

[Anonymous No.]

>>80034635
Is this your OC anon? Pretty cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80035354
Retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80035647
You're right, but trying to explain copyright vs trademark design dispute issues to the midwits here is impossible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80035647
>By the way, I want to make an important point before I head out. Filian's usage of the Rindo model for streaming has been entirely within the scope of the license. The apparent point of contention is about merch.

https://x.com/_spatsula/status/1809409079929934235

Okay, but another issue is she's stated that she just ripped the model from the get go, never getting it from booth in the first place, so aren't we back to square one here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80026899
A lot of people have had it out for Filian. Those people are praying this is enough to ruin her life. It won't be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80028300
Based unashamed shitposter

[Anonymous No.]

>>80035807
She's giving permission to make filian merch, not Rindo merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80036979
>>80034536

[Anonymous No.]

>>80036610
So yeah she may have to pay a fine for this if someone even care enough about it. Irrelevant.

The issue is making money directly with the copyrighted design, not using it to stream, unless specifically forbidden.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80037013
It's still filian and not Rindo. The original asset isn't used at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80036979
You need to understand that a streamer using an asset doesn't make the streamer = the asset. Rindo and Filian are not the same thing. Filian is merely using a product.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80037185
There is no filian you retard. She is using a completely unaltered and 0 changes Rindo model

[Anonymous No.]

>>80037185
Legit retard. Try to sell nicky mouse merch with the only difference from Mickey being nicky has green eyes and let's see how it goes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80035354
wait there's WHAT out there?
...Are there doujins for the other jingo models? They're really fucking hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>80037210
>Rindo and Filian are not the same thing.
Exactly

>>80037267
Filian is a vtuber that has visual features of Rindo but isn't literally Rindo.

>>80037336
That's totally legal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80037336
(Me) Please do it for real. I want to see a filian pre schooler end up in jail.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80037407
Do it then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80036639
>A lot of people have had it out for Filian. Those people are praying this is enough to ruin her life.
I don't get this mindset... I mean I do, it's envy, a short-term emotion. But these people don't realize that they themselves foster this type of mentality that will affect them if they get to big?
>aka build an image / community that preys on someone bigger then get preyed yourself when you get bigger
The only reasons why someone would do it is, they don't plan on becoming bigger or they're idiots. Of course this dismisses anyone who's only a fan and refers to people who want to build a fanbase(artists and other wannabe vtubers)

[Anonymous No.]

>>80026899
Stop trying to deflect using NDF. I consider Filian and Niji organs to be the same level of talentless garbage that have no passion or love in them and should be shunned out of Vtubing forever. Hope she reincarnates as a fleshstreamer after this debacle and takes her annoying zoomer fanbase with her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80032205
Kek, I missed this. Filian is fucking cooked all the cope is useless when GSC itself admitted it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80028300
Dangerously based.

[Anonymous No.]

Give me a single reason why Filian getting in trouble isn't justified.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80037035
https://booth.pm/en/items/3443188

So there is literally no issue with her pirating this asset, recoloring it, and then amassing an entire career off of it? That's before we even get to merch sales because she never purchased this asset to contact the original studio in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80037859
Kids need their daiily dose of TikTok

[Anonymous No.]

>>80031897
>Ask a question
>You're a Filian cuck
Kill yourself unironically you single celled mouth breathing faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80037916
She didn't recolor it. All the assets are included in the download.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80037859
Because if she gets got for this, that means she'll... stop streaming for a week while she preps and finally uses the sekrit model thats been ready for over a year now. It's an armageddon scenario here, truly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80038046
You idiots just play ignorant because you have nothing to better to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>80038233
Cope. Laughing at retards on the internet is my hobby.

[Anonymous No.]

Why didn't Filian remake her model like Neuro to avoid problems?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80038233
You're the one trying to argue the fact that there's no problem with her pirating the model, despite the fact that if she pirated the model that means 100% of her streams are illegally using the model, as opposed to just having problems with the merch rights in the scenario that she did buy it. The absolute worst argument you could make in her defense is that she pirated it as a result.

[Anonymous No.]

Why didn't Filian remake her model like Neuro to avoid DMCA problems?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80038388
Because using a model she paid nothing for is part of her brand and she's the main representative of the "western indies don't need permission for shit unlike those cucked japs" mindset.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80037916
There is an issue with pirating the asset. There is no issue with recoloring it (I mean, not unlinked to the pirating) and there is no issue with using it to stream. The only issue is pirating, stealing, but what you do with something you steal is unrelated to the crime of stealing.

The merch sales are, indeed, a massive fuck up and I'm completely on the artists' side on these. Worst thing is, it's not like she's the only one in trouble. Any company making products from a copyrighted, stolen, design can get massively fucked.

That being said, knowing Filian I'm pretty sure she'll land on her feet, no one wants a trial, everyone wants money. They could use this opportunity to make a deal and I wouldn't even be surprised.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80038388
That's the funny thing.

She did. She has a Filian model made from the ground up for her specifically that's in the metaphorical vault, never used once but has existed as an option for a very long time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80038514
Audience reflects the streamer. Both are mentally challenged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80038595
Is there any proof that it actually exists?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80038070
Isn't this just helping the justification for Filian getting her ass slapped for this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>80038388
Grifters do not like spending money

[Anonymous No.]

>>80038669
He is lying out of his ass. Its a Rindo model that was made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P66qE5DMrTo

[Anonymous No.]

>>80028300
ew

[Anonymous No.]

>>80028300
King

[Anonymous No.]

>>80038797
I'm not talking about the live2d model, I'm talking about a 3D model she's mentioned on stream for probably a year, year and a half now. At least to my knowledge. Sadly I can't find a clip of her speaking about it specifically so I don't blame you for saying I'm full of shit, you can probably dig through the archive and find some mention of it though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80038797
Bro if Jingo finds out she has been doing this behind his back its going to be all out war
>not credited anywhere
LMAO ITS OVER

[Anonymous No.]

>>80038475
I was arguing the opposite

The fact that she admitted several times that she pirated the model means that there's no real ground to stand on trying to argue about whether she can or cannot sell merch since she didn't buy the model in the first place

>>80038559
>That being said, knowing Filian I'm pretty sure she'll land on her feet, no one wants a trial, everyone wants money. They could use this opportunity to make a deal and I wouldn't even be surprised.
Yeah this is just a blip, she could definitely have another model up and swing for another nen in no time, it's just crazy that this had to happen twice for her to do something about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>80038797
NTA but he's probably talking about the infamous filian "debut" meme

[Anonymous No.]

>>80038797
Someone send this to Jingo so they can claim ownership of it lmao

[Anonymous No.]

https://x.com/filianIsLost/status/1808895951874183315
She deleted her tweet

[Anonymous No.]

>>80039628
What was the tweet? A screen shot of it since its deleted maybe faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>80039628
manager stepping in
Also, it was probably just to test the waters, and also pretty hard to read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80039734
>>80032205

[Anonymous No.]

>>80039762
She is her own manager https://x.com/filianIsLost/status/1797534860971843587

[Anonymous No.]

>>80039628
Uh oh

[Anonymous No.]

I think the main takeaway from all this is that you can never trust a Filipino.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80039907
Not a chance (even though a "manager" would only step in during a crisis)

[Anonymous No.]

>deleted tweet
Uh oh

[Anonymous No.]

>>80039996
>flips
>FLIPS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80038388
because unlike tutel she's not using her brain

[Anonymous No.]

>>80038388
Despite the stream persona, she's not dumb, not that dumb
So she just thought she was above consequences and that it "wasn't worth fixing" this potential problem. Also, it became her image a long time ago, changing it wasn't worth the trouble since she thought it would never have consequences.

[Anonymous No.]

>Everyone who shits on my indie whore is a nijisister!!!
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

sister-coded language

[Anonymous No.]

>>80040550
>thought it would never have consequences.
So what you’re saying is that she’s dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80032205
>deleted
*uh oh*

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive fans are famous for loving twitch indies so if you hate them you are definitely a nijisister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80040782
Nah, honestly more of a slacker. It's not like you think it will never have consequences but more like not wanting to face the possibility. Either way, I gave my opinion

[Anonymous No.]

>>80027965
You don't have to dislike her to think she fucked up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80029665
Considering how fucking copyright law illiterate they have demonstrated themselves to be recently, it is obvious they are all children without any life experience or critical thinking skills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80026899
if you take two L, flip one of them, rotate both by 45deg and combine them to touch points, it is niji W

[Anonymous No.]

>>80027333
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>80028300
Beyond based, keep going king.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80026899
Do people seriously believe that "sister's" would waste their precious time of filian?

[Anonymous No.]

most probably liggers but 100% includes nijinigs, holofans, vshojofans, and small indie fans. Oh, probably phasecucks too, especially those retards

[Anonymous No.]

>>80051110
I find it funny how corpocucks pretend to be ontologically superior to everyone else but are clearly insecure about any logger stealing even a hint of their thunder. Success isn't enough, they want monopoly. A gross sentiment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80051204
stop breaking the law, asshole!

[Anonymous No.]

>>80051204
>logger stealing even a hint of their thunder
None of them have done that to this date.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80051204
to be fair liggers sure seem to be good at stealing lmao

[Anonymous No.]

Who the fuck is this fox bitch and why do people keep spamming the catalog over this literal nobody

[Anonymous No.]

>>80026899
Don’t blame NDF for your whore of an oshi’s mistakes. Watching sisters and snackers right now is like watching two retards fighting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>80027548
>i refuse to believe someone is going around posting his pic in every filian related thread
captcha: pnoy on

[Anonymous No.]

>>80051204
>Breaking the law, breaking the law!

[Anonymous No.]

They deleted the tweet announcing her figure lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>80026899
It's kind of odd how suddenly so many people have turned on her, it's like watching a swarm of piranhas eat something. I don't think it even has much to do with us, so much as random sisters being extremely jealous of her success being given an excuse to tear her down just fucking ripping her to shreds.

[Anonymous No.]

Bet fillian's fans are seething knowing their retard oshi got her merch post deleted and canceled but this one is still getting all the views

[Anonymous No.]

>>80026899
What are you talking about? The dramafags are holobronies