/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Is NijiEN losing relevance to mid size corpos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970191
It doesn't seem to be losing relevance in your head

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970235
Are you drunk anon?

[Anonymous No.]

NijiJP on the other hand is reclaiming its top status over HoloJP in case you were wondering

Funny thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970378
No one cares about baseball here.

[Anonymous No.]

Not a Phase/Idolfag but what is the point joining NijiEN in current day? It made sense back in 2021 and 2022 when small companies like Phase, Cyberlive, Tsunderia and Idol were memes and Niji was the corpo alternative to Hololive for decent noomber boost. However, ever since it's been revealed all the clique shit, the 1-2%, the absolute retarded management, not even being able to keep your play buttons, JP shitty permissions, and now small western corpos like Phase and Idol bringing now okay-ish noombers, seriously, what's the point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970487
Before those other companies came along, it was guaranteed views and you got a model. There's basically no point joining NijiEN over the others now unless they are giving revised contracts to new talents which isn't a total ripoff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970378
Only when it’s about Baseball. Outside of that, nobody really gives two shits about Nijisanji, and it’s the truth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970487
Niji also shotguns gens up the ass so before you get a chance to establish yourself a new talent will just appear and destroy your noombers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970191
Small corpos are laughably irrelevant outside of /vt/
Phase pandered to the farms and terminally online /pol/tards so it looks like they're bigger than they actually are
idol is just a money laundering scheme that turned out to grow out of their terminal 2view status and is now just prolonging the eventual rugpull
They're both nowhere near close Nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970602
aren't most phase / idol girls literally 2views?
as in less than 100 viewers?
come on now

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970763
No, they're mostly 3 views now. You're thinking of several months ago. NijiEN is losing ground to these corpos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970378
ミスター・ベースボール

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970763
Only their non-EN branches are 2views
idol - Hebrew branch
Phase - JP branch

[Anonymous No.]

Didn't phase connect just have a group graduation or something? I don't keep up with this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970763
They're mostly 3views. Only Pippa for Phase, and Rin (and Roca on karaokes) for Idol are able to crack into 4view territory

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970763
No. 98% of them are solid 3view. The only ones that are mostly 2views are the PhaseJP girls because Fishman fucked up JP advertisement and Nikki from Idol and even then they all manage to reach 3view.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970889
You're thinking Niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970889
>>52970927
It's Production Kawaii's 3rd gen who all graduated

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970441
>>52970606
>>52970840
I never said this shitty board's opinion mattered. The matter of fact is that mindshare has almost dramatically moved heavily in favor of Nijisanji akin to 2018-2019 compared to before. Almost as if people missed Koshien way more than predictable ass Holosummer and FlopCity/Flop 4 You.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970910
Tenma and Lumi both reach 4view more frequently nowadays.
>>52970889
If you're thinking of small corpos, that's Kawaii.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970607
The latest females are doing just fine. The newest boys are struggling a bit, but they were obviously the biggest shitters of the VTA.
The new students are also looking great. Pretty sure they will debute 2~3 other JP girls I will like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970763
The only Idol girls that are two views are mostly Hebrew, and they sorta grew after Offkai. At the least being part of Idol will guarantee you being a low 3-view, a modest 3-view if audiences see something in you, to high 3-view to low-4view if they really like you’re doing. Phase to an extent is similar, only Idol seems to be better at tard wrangling talents.
Point being, if you’re a female talent, you’ll probably get the same amount of viewership/success by being in Idol than you would NijiEN at this point. The branch just has little to nothing worth setting itself apart at this point, not to mention you’ll be competing against people that can barely speak English like
Meloco.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970487
Has there been a female debut in 2023 for Nijisanji EN? No.
Your post is about 2022 and the last debut for a female was in 2022.

[Anonymous No.]

Idol and Phase are the new Hololive and Nijisanji solely because the first isn't hiring girls anymore and the second one ruined their reputation in the west market

[Anonymous No.]

>>52971277
How did Phase ""ruin"" their reputation in the west? Making trannies, femanons and vtweeters mad by streaming Wizard Game? If anything they've been inclining so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52971046
Anon, Koshien and like 5-6 other JP dudes are genuinely all Nijisanji has to offer. If the mindset really grew in favor of the company, their VTA waves would have done leagues better. Their new EN waves too, would have done better. They would also have much, much more fanworks like Cover allows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970487
The 1-2% stuff is a massive fucking meme when you actually do the math even if it is unfair. Most of them get merch like what 3-4 times a year. And they sell like 300 units or something if you are one of the mid sized girls. Say you sell 300 units at $10 for some plastic stand crap or whatever if you got say 30% instead you have lost out on $900 before tax. Mutliply that out by 3 or 4 times a year and maybe you dropped $3k? Unless you are like Vox or someshit and selling 5000 units of everything they sell you aren't losing much of anything. Meanwhile they are still getting 50% on voice packs which they get to participate in way more than they get actualy physical merch and charge around $10 for each time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52971517
And we're pretending Hololive isn't boring and irrelevant outside Miko, Pekora, Marine, and Subaru?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52971046
Kek
A true nijinigger, surprise they still exist, go on and say that firing one of oldest and bigger organ is a great move.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52971046
Look at Comiket to see who matters and who is a joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>52971606
Anon, don't need to force, Luna has more viewers than 90% of niji, no amount of coping changes that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52971728
If you want to dick measure circle counts then Nijisanji had 1.3k circles participate at the last Nijisanji only event.
https://www.circlecheck.site/event/nijisanji_nijisousaku_7/
Pretty sure thats more than all the vtuber groups combined at comiket.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52971813
She's got like 12-20 Nijis ahead of her bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970885
one of the idol he girls has been pretty regularly cracking 100 viewers lately even before raids. the newest gen seems to have given those two a boost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52971728
kek, Comiket stopped being relevant years ago. Gacha overtaking VTubers anyways there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52971929
That's about 10% of Niji yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>52971277
>>52970191
/vt/ really needs to leave its bubble. contrary to popular belief, phase and idol arent as big outside this board as you think. NIJISANJI and HOLO have huge appeal both inside and outisde of vtubing. The only worthwhile talent from both corpos respectively got attention from catering to non vtuber fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52971046
Nijisanji has less watch hours, but let's see your mindshare statistics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970885
Nasa pretty regularly gets to 3 view now even without raids

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970191
Well with Idol you can pick your own artist (given that they are available) and how you look like. That's like insanely valuable if you wanted to become more comfortable becoming a corpo vtuber. And Aviel doesn't hold back the jewbucks running ads for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52971929
And there is like 150 nijis, 90% of 150 is 135, she is above 135 and bellow 15, and she is average to bellow average holo, how that's a niji win?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52972071
Absolute brainlet take lmao

Comiket is the purest reflection of japanese Otaku interests

[Anonymous No.]

>>52972226
I have come to the realization that the idol vtuber market just isn't that big anymore and is mostly contained here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52972226
Are you even implying both of those are big here when they're 95% of the time contained inside their own generals while 80% of the board is just Holo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52971606
Anon, even AZKi gets more viewers than most Nijis just by playing Geoguesser. Pekora, Marine, Subaru, Migochi, even Korone and Okayu, maybe even Koyori may be Holo’s current superstars, but pretty much everyone in the branch gets as much if not more support compared to most Niji members in JP.
Hell if you wanted to the spin this as EN rivalry, Fauna and Irys don’t stream often and yet get as much if not more views than the ENs do on average just by casually playing vidya. And if you wanted to compare ID branches between both companies, Holo’s is alive and the other is a rotting corpse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970378
Gundo tell me otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52971886
For comparison by the way the last Hololive only event
https://www.circlecheck.site/event/holokle5th
Had 244 participating circles to the Nijisanji ones 1.3k

[Anonymous No.]

>>52973068
This one's in Kanagawa

[Anonymous No.]

>>52972226
Idk anon, Rin from idol is kind of taking over peoples Youtube shorts lately, and I just watched her stream reach ~3.5k people. You can say shorts don't translate to viewers all you want, but those look like pretty good numbers to me for EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970191
you wish, phasenigger
don't forget about the plappening

[Anonymous No.]

>>52973068
Man, Holo really did fall off

[Anonymous No.]

>>52973204
I went for the biggest one I could find. Holoket 7 was in Tokyo but that was kind of sad at only 97 circles.
https://www.circlecheck.site/event/holoket7

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970378
>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
140x: Hololive
32x: Nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>52973283
Well at least now they're big /here/, when you got constant bait threads about them like this. A year ago not a single anon could name either corpo outside of /pcg/ and /jidf/ respectively.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52973749
meant for >>52972537

[Anonymous No.]

>>52972226
>NIJISANJI and HOLO have huge appeal both inside and outisde of vtubing
what in the actual fuck makes people think these are both so unique and so different to small corpos? they're not. don't drink the kool aid.

[Anonymous No.]

Recently Rin became the fastest growing vtuber channel in the world, I don't have the link though you'll have to trust me on this one. For a small corpo to have that alone is a huge achievement, props to their management as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>52974047
these small corpos are niche content within a niche, meanwhile groups like anycolor and cover are companies worth billions of dollars breaking out of a niche and crossing over into mainstream awareness

[Anonymous No.]

>>52974768
>Anon discovers why small corpos are called small corpos

[Anonymous No.]

>idol
>Phase
>NijiEN
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52974727
>Recently Rin became the fastest growing vtuber channel in the world
The title still belongs to Salome and she'd have to reach 2m until the end of the month to even get close to that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970191
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>52974047
Pippa is probably the biggest from small corps and she is like 3x times bigger than the rest of her corp yet she isn't even in the top 30 of holo.
They are growing but you have to be terminally /here/ to say they are the new holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52974047
>what in the actual fuck makes people think these are both so unique and so different to small corpos?
people are aware of their existence. people aren't aware of your small shitters. except for pippa and rin, no one's ever heard of either phase or idol.
that's the difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52975022
She's the fastest currently, not of all time

[Anonymous No.]

>>52975086
Maybe not in ccv but she gets a weirdly large amount of superchats. Comparable to holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970191
Dont know if they are losing relevancy but they sure are losing talents like it's a competition .

[Anonymous No.]

>>52971277
But Hololive just teased that more talents will be joining EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970885
both Katta and Nikki are pretty often 3 views now

[Anonymous No.]

>>52975859
Pippa baits supers harder then any vtuber ive ever seen in my life
tried watching one of her streams once and it was just her reading and responding to every single superchat instead of actually playing whatever game she was playing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52976243
>supers harder

[Anonymous No.]

>>52976461
retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>52976243
The thing is though, she still manages to be entertaining while reading them. Her reactions are funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52974986
this would be based if you weren't on a catalog thread, go back to your contaniment thread brony

[Anonymous No.]

>>52971492
>Making trannies, femanons and vtweeters mad by streaming Wizard Game?
>AKA Pippa doing another grift off of Pikamee and Silvervale who got actual heat from the troons just so she can be like "I'm totally le ebin based chuuba making troons seethe yo"

[Anonymous No.]

>>52977206
>s-she still manages to be entertaining while reading them
This is cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>52971492
>trannies, femanons and vtweeters
you just described their entire audience, retard
the phase connect fandom is just an offshoot of lolcow and kiwifarms

[Anonymous No.]

>>52977496
>brony
I’m not into NijiEN, though

[Anonymous No.]

>>52978333
im not that invested in pippa so all ill say is that she managed to create a community that superchats actually interesting and funny things. thats how she gets away with it while keeping viewers in her stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970235
fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970378
Lol hololive will always be at the top. Seethe more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970716
Now say it without crying, nijinig

[Anonymous No.]

jewcorp > nijitrannies

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970191
The last time you made this thread Pippa yabbed

[Anonymous No.]

>>52983784
It’s honestly crazy how fast that rrat died

[Anonymous No.]

>>52984285
it helps to have your own jannies

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970191
No. It only seems that way if you spend a lot of time here because mid size corpos punch above their weight on this board.
t. Phasefag

[Anonymous No.]

>>52984285
>died
You mean suppressed

[Anonymous No.]

Until Phase and Idol stop being just Pippa and Rin no. Even the worst shitter like Aia is more popular than the last waves Phase and Idol released.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52984285
they can't silence all of us, even if they wish they could.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52984350
>>52984523
>>52984871
I think the hard proof it wasn’t her did more to kill the rrat than the jannies…but maybe I’m crazy

[Anonymous No.]

>>52985175
what hard proof lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>52985202
>>52379905

[Anonymous No.]

>>52985175
deleting hundreds of threads and posts sure helps
Gura bait threads? rrats? no problem they let it stay up all day
go fuck yourself phasecuckold

[Anonymous No.]

>>52985202
>>52985292
Feel free to ignore it. I’m sure you’d prefer to keep your cuck fantasies alive.
https://files.catbox.moe/4pqz2b.JPG
https://files.catbox.moe/owik97.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/psu2bh.png
https://files.catbox.moe/jgw27c.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/8e6d1h.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/8dyu24.png
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1QrJIdozdzM

[Anonymous No.]

>>52984806
You know that's not true, non-binary Aiafag. The numbers aren't secret. Phase and Idol EN compete with the pre-Luxiem girls and the bottom of Hololive. Aia competes (well!) with PhaseJP and IdolHE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970235
gottem

[Anonymous No.]

>>52985292
Surely you can see the difference between simple bait threads and threads actively discussing and posting supposed IRL dox photos you mongoloid

[Anonymous No.]

>>52971492
He was talking about Niji, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970235
>>52985507
>>52981996
Nijisister defense force, activate!

[Anonymous No.]

>>52985684
Who’s worse Niji or Phase?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52972277
Iori as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>52985723
(You)

[Anonymous No.]

>>52984806
I dont hate Aia, but this is absolutely not true. Someone like Coni is more popular than her in terms of view counts, even Aster and a bunch of other NijiEN talents. Even Ember from Phase Invaders 2 is on par with Aia.
NijiEN is basically small corpo-tier nowadays. Only Lazulight/Obsydia are mostly lucky since they built a fanbase that will stick with them instead of selling their dignity for quick cash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52985788
>Coni
>Ember
give it a month or two. The novelty buff is still there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52985748
I love Iori, she’s got a pretty unique voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>52976461
You were supposed to go for the
>then

Retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>52978333
>streamer interacts with here community
>people enjoy it
>(you): c-cope
Lol
Lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>52984285
I mean, you have to be pretty retatded to have believed it

[Anonymous No.]

>>52985582
>censorship is ok when pippa is involved
>making bullshit about gura? YABBA DABBA DO

[Anonymous No.]

>>52985845
Coni and the rest of Endless, maybe. But the buff already went away for Phase Invaders 2 IIRC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52985788
>>52986267
I checked coni's playboard, she has no superchats?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52986484
Coni has superchats enabled, maybe she's too new to where the service doesn't count it? Plus she also had a few unarchived streams too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52986730
>maybe she's too new to where the service doesn't count it?
she's been around for 3 years. There's no way in hell that she doesn't know.

[Anonymous No.]

Coni's performance is impressive. Definitely shaping to be a mini-Pippa which is funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970191
Sadly, no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52985473
>>52985788
Aia is more popular than Shiina, the third most popular Phase girl. You're underestimating her: https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCnJNNk45O1QYS2oMRYFKSyw
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCN68LoM3khS4gdBMiWJO8WA
I dunno who's the third most popular idol-EN one, but she's slightly less popular than ghost Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not big on the talents in NijiEN but this is some pure delusion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52986263
is making up random harmless shit against the board rules like posting dox?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970378
They certainly have the top male livers maybe they should just go all in for the fujos so we can finally filter trannies and sisters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970191
They might get seriously fucked in the long run if they keep this up.

New corpos used to be the wastelands of incompetent management, shitty contracts and general idiocy - with only the most desperate and washed out talent even applying to auditions.

Nowadays, the shittiest of small corps have already filtered themselves. And Niji has been working hard on reclaiming the title of "the wasteland of incompetent management, shitty contracts and general idiocy" for themselves. By now, you got to be really desperate to apply to Niji - because plenty of small-to-mid corpos straight up offer better deals, the debut, the cuts and all.

At this rate, all Niji would have for the next gen is numberfags, literal grifters with a plan B in tow since pre-debut, and talent who got rejected from small companies, of all places.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970378
Yeah?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52992896
Can't argue with the cold, hard fact called chart. This plus how many doujin circles Holo get shows how small and irrelevant Niji is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970191
To some degree maybe, though i’d say this would probably apply to holo too. Niji has gone through its share of drama while Holo has just been stagnating, both of them have gotten a little smaller while small corpos are getting a little bigger. Losing relevance is not what I’d call it though, the vtuber boom from the pandemic has basically just died down and the audience spread around looking for something interesting happening, Holo and Niji aren’t going anywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52987304
It does fall under trolling doesn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>52997906
So do 90% of posts here. Dox is clearly the bigger issue retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970378
Imagine being happy by sacrificing a long time liver over mundane thing like baseball.
When you build your success over a dead body, it will always cursed with problems

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970889
Anykara literally fired and removed 12 members content without graduation stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52971019
And Anykara graduated 12 people in one sweep.
It's like Anykara saw what Production Kawaii doing and said "I can do one better!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>52996157
I think it's only Niji that stagnating. Cover have the biggest mocap and greenscreen studio in Japan now (not my word, the local TV broadcaster saif that) and they can rent it to 3rd parties who need it (video game developers, TV and Movie producers, etc etc) and also multiple concerts, merchandising with various events, and even a plan to make their own streaming service so they don't have to pay 30% to youtube anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52998219
>>52998332
now we know who the retards are that watch false or can only read titles

[Anonymous No.]

>>52996157
Percentage wise Hololive could/should be doing a lot better than they are doing considering everything, at least EN.
Percentage wise small corpos should be doing a lot worse but they're doing good if not really good.
Both of these scenarios were unthinkable 2 years ago but here we are, the tides are turning

[Anonymous No.]

>>52999099
You also have to remember that Niji made a few screwups as of late, mainly with how they handled AR Fes. That right there and having half of the branch go on break at the same time basically killed EN's momentum dead in its tracks.

[Anonymous No.]

I still don't know why Holo just let Niji do their koshien when they can easily fuck them up with Holo koshien just like how they killed Niji's Mariokart tournament with Holokart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970191
>Is NijiEN losing relevance
Yes.
>to mid size corpos?
lol no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53000142
Sorry wanna say that again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53001666
Nijisanji is odd in this aspect. They always show up to these massive events hosted on the main channel, but the fans are pretty much absent everywhere else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53001961
>nijisanji fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>53001961
That's the power of acceleration and total converged audience. It's the same reason why they make more money than Cover and investors love them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53000142
>hololive
>anything konami
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>53002523
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>52999356
It still shitty. 12 people spent their time hoping for a place in a limelight but got kicked out instead.
This academy thing is complete bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>53008927
once again you clearly have no idea what you are talking about this is got its always been in VTA .
>Admission to join the project is audition based, while training costs are paid by ANYCOLOR and upon completion, the graduate may be given the offer to debut in NIJISANJI or freely move to other agencies to try to audition to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53000142
They also covering (heh) a baseball league anon. I guess Riku has connection with Koshien committee so she gained that contract. Of course that yab kinda damaged their reputation with baseball fans a bit.
If they keep self destructing like this, maybe next year Koshien will be with Holo

[Anonymous No.]

>>53002662
>Make more money
You mean the 2% right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53009494
>may be given
Ironic since they keep releasing new waves when they have 18 candidates to pick from.
This "Niji academy" is just carbon copy of reality TV show where Niji can make money while spending minimum cost(just PNG avatar)

[Anonymous No.]

>>52986484
small corpo fans use streamlabs for donations

[Anonymous No.]

>>53010666
I mean its been 3 days? or something normally after about a week something is said on twitter, also they have way more people than just that as you have whole other groups within VTA that don't stream. The last 3 gens half of them have been from the group that doesn't stream. so far only 2 people have not shown up in nijisanji but also haven't shown up anywhere else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52999397
Yes but Hololive can underperform all you want and they'll still be profitable, the moment a small corpo falls out of line it's over for them. It's just that simple

[Anonymous No.]

>>53010666
You're basically going to a free trade school more or less and when you graduate the trade school you're given a straight shot at immediately working for the business you were training to be in
I can understand why you might think it's a scam but it's essentially a chance to work for a business.
If you do graduate as well, you'll be given a free model and a free chance to earn extra money.

I'm not necessarily big on Nijisanji but I'll fully admit that the idea is pretty good, not only does it help prepare people for the future but it allows you to get an idea of what a talent might be like before they stream. Pretty much any corporation would benefit from having trained people in it before they join. Like imagine if Ina and Mori could actually dance because they spent 30 minutes a day minimum practicing before joining

[Anonymous No.]

>>52992896
Wow, VSPO has overtaken Nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>53011452
Both small corpos in this instance are backed by a lot of money. The Jews by Israel, and Phase by Fishman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53001961
>>53002662
Niji has normies who'll show up for big events then fuck off somewhere while Holo has obsessive idolfags who'll always be there for their 'girlfriends'. Holo is superior because obsessive idolfags will give their lives to protect the brand and their gfs while normies don't give a fuck about protecting shit because they don't like Niji that much in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53012944
Niji also has obsessive fans that will defend their company and even willing to sacrifice their livers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970235
Nice, take this you

[Anonymous No.]

>>53012489
Is Fishman really that rich?

[Anonymous No.]

>>53019560
You've been keeping this shitty thread alive all day, I hope you're not doing it for free. Also kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>52985473
>>52985788
The absolute cope of this thread, phase is not even close to the status of any major corpo dont even try.
>>53019560
I hate Phase with a passion, but I cant deny that the Canadian chink is a smart business man, and has done a good job giving his girls proper exposure and advertisements. If he actually tried to run a proper vtuber group and not just some kiwifarm women, he'd do pretty well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53019727
I don't even started this thread anon. I genuinely curious about Fishman
>>53019839
Wait, he's CANADIAN CHINESE?
I thought he's Japanese! I mean Phase made a Japanese branch right? So this is why people said he fucked up the advertisement for the Japanese branch. I think he doesn't have a clue about Japanese advertisement system.
Y'know, for a ChinCan, he doesn't play it safe. He hire problematic girls and it actually worked

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970191
Idol has as shitty management as Niji, Rin mentioned she is paying for her 500k project out of her own pocket - at least she is in position to do that and tell management to fuck off with Raid Shadow Legend sponsorships.
Not to mention their entire strategy is spam Gura shorts and doing 'rate Holos' streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53019560
He sold his last company to start Phase
>>53019839
Why do you hate Phase

[Anonymous No.]

>>53020186
I figured it out actually you don't need to tell me

[Anonymous No.]

>>53020186
>He sold his last company to start Phase
That's not rich, anon Rich means he still have enough capital to start Phase without selling his old company.
I

[Anonymous No.]

>>53020100
just a coincidence of course that the thread was on the edge of page 10. Fuck off faggot

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>>53020346
To be fair when I open catalog I immediately scroll to the bottom and start from page 10 and make my way up.

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>>53001666
And then you look at most of those liver's ccv on average and it's 1k on average or 2k on a good day.

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>>52970191
Not even hate, but just from browsing Youtube, Twitter or whatever I pretty much see nothing from any of the Nijis anymore. For youtube shorts it's Fillian or Rin, maybe with the occasional coomerbait from Shyilly or whoever. For ads, it's usually Idol. They don't have any concerts to point to like Hololive and put out less music than HoloEN too. If it wasn't for Nina graduating I would have seen pretty much nothing from them in weeks.

>>52972226
Now this is just cope, fucking Pippa does better than nearly all of NijiEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53020706
>"the algo that feeds me things I watch didn't show me things I don't watch"
shocking

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>>52970487
There are still desperate 1-2view indies who want to get in. Being in Nijien guarantees you a big subscriber base (50k-70k subs) and viewership (3view). It may not seem like much, but for those starved indies, those are big numbers. Additionally, joining NijiEN also provides sponsorship, exposure, a good model, and a decent income. People /here/ have forgotten that, despite the poor merch cut, they still have other sources of revenue such as voice packs, SC, and so on. Moreover, being on Niji gives you a high chance of easily reaching 100k subscribers and getting your own 3D model.
you also need to remember that nijiEN is one of corpo where male chuuba can be thriving.

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>>53020346
Take your meds. People bumping a thread on page 10 is not new but apparently you seem quite new.

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>>53020706
You do realize Youtube only showing you the thing you love to watch the most right?
I got myself the usual Holo clips, Niji clip because I watched Nina Kosaka's graduation stream, and they also being an asshole and recommended me vids of reaction after Pikamee announced her graduation news. Way to go youtube you fucking cunt.

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>>53011062
>small corpo fans use streamlabs for donations
source on this rrat?

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>>53021256
Imagine living in a country with currency value so low joining Niji is considered an upgrade.
That's pretty much NijiID inna nutshell lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>52970191
Phase only has Pippa carrying it while idol has no one

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>>53022336
>Rin doesn't exist

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>>52971606
You can remove the tops of Hololive and they will still got plenty of 10k while Nijisanji are bunch of 3views shitters, removing the tops talent of each company would still make Hololive a big company while Nijisanji will drop to small corpo tier, idiot

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>>53021923
watch them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>52973422
The fact that niji even got 32 wins is a disgrace. Yahoo should debut another 2 JP gens.

[Anonymous No.]

I like the raccoon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53025319
poko is a blessing

[Anonymous No.]

>>53025319
Show her feet

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>>53027892

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>>53020346
nijiseethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>53025319

She said her oshi is bae who is one of the best holoen, she learn from the best

[Anonymous No.]

>>53031205
>homo collaber
>whore
>one of the best
wdhmbt?

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>>52970378

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>>52970191
Losing relevance to their own incompetent management, maybe. I'll never stop being amazed at how a company with so much early advantage managed to shoot themselves in the face over and over and over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>53031306
I believe he was talking about Bae, not your mom

[Anonymous No.]

>>53033435
Bae is my mom. She’s such a whore we still don’t know who the father is

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>>53033016
>Fauna in the top 10 despite her "just an entertainer" speech
GFEfags lost

[Anonymous No.]

>>53037850
I thought GFEtards were a /vt/ thing, don't tell me they exist in other places? I don't go to other websites

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>>52970191
Generally, yes true and it seems like the distance will keep shrinking. Still feel like there is a bit of a gap though.
Like Nina was a 1k chubba and then she announced on twitter she would be graduating and then she had like 15k,8k,5k,4k,7k,8k.. 30k(grad), streams.
I dont think if Yuko or Tenma, who are both bigger deals in Idol and Phase than Nina was in NijiEN, was graduating that they would be getting multiple 7-8k+ streams. Maybe Pippa would, but she is sort of the one big outlier. And even her all time high is below 10k

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>>53033016
So NijiEN is still (in total) ahead of HoloEN??

[Anonymous No.]

>>53033016
>Watch hours