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/warkop/ - Warung Kopi Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 05:22:52 No.26800590 [Reply] [Original]

Akemi Nekomachi Edition

>What is /warkop/ about?
A place to talk about Indonesian VTubers in general, but not just about their streams. We also talk about the Indonesian VTuber scene, whether it be rumors, numbers, market analysis, debuts, graduations, etc.

>Any rules in /warkop/?
I'm not a janny/meido, but:
>We do not talk about /warkop/
>Jaga budi pekerti. Don't be a dumbfuck, a cunt, or both
>No excessive politics and SARA talks. This is a thread for VTubers, not /pol/. We don't want jannies to prune (aka. delete) our threads
>Avoid using Indonesian for your own safety. Jannies might give you warnings or even bans for posting in Indonesian
>Have fun!

>So, /#/ but ID?
You can talk about numbers here, but don't be excessive.

>Is this an Indonesian containment general?
This general aims to be a place where Indonesians could talk about Indonesian VTubers freely and (hopefully) politely.

Recent happenings:
>ID VTuber scene continues to incline (for months already!)
>Yume Reality releases Jolly Jungle, an orisong featuring Keroro Suika, Aika Meru, and Koguma Keiya
>Ollie fell from her stairs and got hospitalized. Kobo took a hiatus as her room got renovated for a week
>Rora Meeza from Alterly releases her first "digital single" MV titled Get Good
>Keitaa, a male VTuber that went on hiatus for 7 months returns and releases an original song
>A person/circle attempted to dox Minerva Rosaline. In addition to the dox attempt, she also blocked several ID VTubers. Identity unclear, more in reply
>/warkop/ got featured in /corpo/, a general for well, corpos. Go shill local corpos there

Previous Thread: >>26618467

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 05:30:12 No.26800951

OP here, please ignore schizos, tribalists, and dramafags. About Mine's doxer, someone posted this (https://twitter.com/diecast021/status/1540338148030693377)) last thread. Might be true, or not, but the nun is definitely Serena Shinju. Please tell more if you know.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 05:33:29 No.26801141 Are we doing this thread every 2 days?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 05:34:04 No.26801174 HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA. Ooooooo 4chan gods, i pray to thou. Please let this thread be free from any schizos. HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA, AMEN.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 05:35:14 No.26801241 >>26801141 every wed and sat

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 05:43:38 No.26801649 Serious question here, why are crab mentality are so prevalent among exIDs and why their fans are so batshit crazy, not only they denied this fact, they also put their oshis on hostage from expanding their horizons?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 05:46:05 No.26801773 File: 451 KB, 3000x1000, 1655523615648.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I love my Jaksel girls

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 05:48:20 No.26801899 it's already saturday... time fly so fast

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 05:57:05 No.26802501 >>26801649 any example of this crab mentality? i know most of them enjoy being in their comfort zone but i never saw them having any crab mentality

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 05:58:19 No.26802591 >>26800590 woah fresh from vt

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 06:00:25 No.26802761 https://youtu.be/8fLie0tmhcA First cover from Kobo. The name of the mixer and arranger is really interesting kek >Bpk. Sutirto

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 06:03:22 No.26802997 >>26802761 It's a new mixer, probably her relatives

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 06:08:16 No.26803367 >>26802997 It's her real dad, the musical family rrats lives on!!

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 06:16:45 No.26804077 >>26801141 Every Wednesday and Saturday noon, although depending on things, the thread could reach 300 replies in either a night or 3 days. Last thread didn't even reach 300 replies, a shame.

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 06:22:15 No.26804536
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>>26801241
Speaking of wed and sat.
===TIMNAS WACANAPOSTING===
>Interested in helping /warkop/ to join vtl3? Join /vt/league ruangguru and learn new things like tactics, modelling and many more!
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/_League_3
>With no other suggestions in the last few threads, our ball, anthem and victory anthem are now finalized.
>Our Ball
Kobo Slime
>Our Anthem
Korone X holoID folksong medley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgICkQmRolA
>Our victory anthem
Janji - Projekt Genesis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce87eFO2XE4

Roster recommendations are still open until next wed's thread
>Why did they flop? (NijiID flop posting) {GK}
>We holoID fans (Our Lord Soo Min Park of holoID)
>Guess their religion (Tebak agama vtuber)
>Huhihuhihu (Epel)
>Adudu Iofifteeen
>Piggy bank thief (holoIDdorm)
>Harem Master (Andi Adinata)
>Hana was right (/vt/'s infamous e-girl bait)
>Gluk gluk water (Zen's head on horse body)
>Kobo Tempest
>Loli Miti
>Get Blocked (Ipochan)
>Ucagi (Nekoyama Sena)
>Humbala-Humbala (Anti-Schizo Ritualposting)
>ANJG LU KANNA (Kanna Tamachi)
>Penghuni rumah nanas (Yume reference)
>Unitychad (MuseID-Daem)
>Om2 Pos Ronda (Minerva Rosaline)
>Lontenya Penilep Bansos (Snowdrop & their corrupt owner)
>Maya Putri's Zombie
>Dolphino (Chloe reference)
>Si Otan (Treerat reference)
>Raja Mexico, El Salvadore Tequila El Kontole
(Windah, thread meta)

>Goalhorn reccomendations are also open until next wed's thread with pemilu planned at the earliest, next sat's thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70wgvOXtb98
https://youtu.be/564kyK7xsc8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4CMdzicvKg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eorcYTRWskQ
https://youtu.be/5iL2d-0CNPo
https://youtu.be/oFkSQPJeAQE
https://youtu.be/0PK79P8JDWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f8rC4cXKqU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWpJaHut7DE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZaW_bq6wxo&t=28s
https://youtu.be/BM6dXhJh8g4

>Chants recommendations are open until around September
>Jedag Jedug Vtuber Toxic https://youtu.be/cyMUSpLV32E
>Kobo Tempest introduction
https://youtu.be/c5xn9idw4wg
>Early Moona songs
https://youtu.be/N_1xVr7wp6Q
https://youtu.be/4-wpqxD7Az8
>Kobo Edgelord
https://youtu.be/YDBLs_0SnPQ

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 06:40:04 No.26805830

The popularity of Kobo proves that in ID, vtubers doesn't have to pander to the weebs, that normal viewers are okay with watching anime avatar streaming. This in contrast with what Yagoo said that the market for vtubers are the anime fans throughout the world, that's not the case in Indonesia. Making contents tailored to weebs might be a debuff for ID vtubers because normies doesn't mind watching vtubers as long as the contents are relatable.

IMO, ID vtubers should be detaching themselves from the concept that vtubers = weeb contents. They should create a distinctive sub culture that branching out from the Japanese vtubers culture, a vtubers sub culture that's only unique within the ID scene. Meaning that the vtubers culture should be more localized, that they're Japanese culture in design only (even better if we can create our own distinctive anime style).

I just thought about this when I was binge listening to some Javanese koplo songs. Javanese songs views in Youtube is no joke, a lot of it are having >50M views, some are even >200M, even more than the average Indonesian language songs. I know that urban people prefers listening to ID pop songs from Spotify, but still Javanese songs popularity are no joke. This got me thinking that maybe a vtuber fully pandering to the Javanese could be more popular than the average ID vtubers, if they're at least half as good and talented as Kobo. And they could start a new wave of niche pandering to specific ethnics and cultures.

TL:DR: Kobo should be used as a sign that Indonesian normies are okay with watching vtubers, and ID vtubers should pandering more to normies local audiences instead of trying hard to pander to the weebs like the Japanese vtubers.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 06:51:06 No.26806625 >>26802761 >Release it on saturday >The deadline for hololive top cover ranks is friday I love my numberfag cunny

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 07:01:11 No.26807561

>>26805830
>This in contrast with what Yagoo said that the market for vtubers are the anime fans throughout the world
This is also not the case everywhere in the world anon, not just ID. Yagoo just simply get it wrong. Look at salome, a massive amount of her viewers are JP normies. A significant amount of Gura and Calli viewers are also non-weebs, especially when they're on their peak popularity after debut. One of the biggest Minecraft streamer (Ranboo) also use a vtuber model now. The list goes on.

You can even argue that all oldschool big minecraft youtubers (Cpt. Sparklez, Grian, Mumbo, Etho, etc) are kinda a vtuber. They don't use facecam but instead use their minecraft avatar to talk to us (they use 3rd person pov from the front very often).

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 07:03:29 No.26807746 >>26805830 You want ID Vtubers to be accepted by normies? Ez, just become Millhya 2.0 or Arap 2.0, just like Kobo is Windah 2.0

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 07:20:45 No.26808962

>>26807561
I kinda get the point for Yagoo, but when Riku took the ID gamble back then why tf, Nijisanji which in JP was more normie friendly than hololive suddenly become an ultra niche boomer weebagency in ID, all these years of headstart yet they misread ID market so wrongly, why's that?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 07:28:29 No.26809420 >>26807746 >arap 2.0 Kek, then we got another dramatuber

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 07:43:10 No.26810188 >>26809420 we already got iofi and ollie here

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 07:43:26 No.26810206
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I've been doing my reps for Rafel Alva. Damn, the more I watch him the more I fell in love with him. I like it when he's singing English songs. He's my benchmark/standard for Holostars EN now.
>>26802761
>Tondemo wonders
Huh interesting choice, maybe she's doing her reps
Anyway her senpai is also covering it
>Polka's cover
https://youtu.be/0DzqJQggP9s

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 07:49:33 No.26810504

>>26800951
Serena Shinju's circle back then was lowkey infamous for doxxing multiple vtubers or claiming that they know multiple indie vtubers identity.
The "miyukkiko" account used to have the username "enmuyo", did a model reveal as a vtuber and she streamed before. Her channel is probably gone now but back then the voice was exactly the same and some of her loyal simps interacted (up to you if you want to trust me or not)
Now she moved to the account @YakouGao as an ENVTuber to possibly run away from the ID community.
Basically she graduated, reincarnated twice and is now trying to blame other people in the community because her name is bad.

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 07:53:08 No.26810679

>>26810504 (me)
Regarding the doxxing, someone in her circle doxxed Mine to a streamer who told their VTuber friends.
The same circle was involved with spreading private information on Snowdrop talents long ago to the point where they relessed an official statement
https://twitter.com/snowdropliveid/status/1447877353451896832?s=21&t=NDkwD2dcC4PNhbrkrCMKbA

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:01:10 No.26811035

>>26802501
When the merge got some KRs reincarnated, IDs sticked to niji, rrats said that they don't grad because if any of them grad now, the fandom will rebel to anyc like never before, this is why many thought that nijifags are hindering their livers growth

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:03:11 No.26811119 >>26811035 wtf is that rat? It makes them more of a cult than a 'fanbase'

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:06:03 No.26811236 >>26811035 ZEA and Nara are truly wasted there, just graduate and join holo already, they will atleast get stable income and Nara won't have to resort to Subathon to fix her knees

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:07:00 No.26811271 Kobo haven't streamed prosekai, right? I wonder how good she's

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:08:42 No.26811349 >>26811236 Is there be HoloID 4th gen? Or Yagoo wants to open new branch?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:11:40 No.26811479 File: 389 KB, 1999x1080, 1648028314207.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who the fuck is Sutirto?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:12:04 No.26811497 >>26807746 >Arap 2.0 Too mentally unstable kek >Milyhya 2.0 That would be great >Kobo is Windah 2.0 Naaaah I don't think so. Kobo is Kobo.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:13:07 No.26811549 >>26811349 They will open next audition after EN3 debuted most likely

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:13:30 No.26811566 >>26811479 Her sugar daddy

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:14:24 No.26811598 >>26800951 >>26810504 The doxxer is probably a kulikomis member https://twitter.com/Kulikomis/status/1540309582345412608?t=cQcMOIHWZWTboqFURa9SQQ&s=19

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:14:34 No.26811607 >>26811349 idk but if cover willing to do more in ID, I hope they'll do something like mixed-gender INNK here, we have a powerful utaite scene but some of them are never really exposed to their fullest potential

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:14:43 No.26811611 >>26811497 >Kobo is kobo Many people already called her Windah's daughter though and they often associate her with him

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:15:51 No.26811654 >>26810504 >>26810679 That's toxic Keep the infos coming, anon you are doing great for the community This would help many Indies EN and ID alike

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:16:30 No.26811685 >>26803367 >>26811479 its the first sutrito project but he already doing much better than timothy and redshift. moona please stop hiring timothy, just hire kobo's dad instead

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:16:53 No.26811695 >>26811611 >Windah's daughter Wrong. She's my daughter She's me 2.0

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:17:56 No.26811734 >>26811349 Gen 4 will happen. They already see the success of Kobo, it's gonna be stupid if they don't use this opportunity

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:18:09 No.26811743 >>26811695 Fuck off Brando

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:18:27 No.26811755 >>26811598 Yes, "miyukkiko" is a relatively newer member of Kulikomis. Kulikomis isn't the doxxer circle though, which is why they are trying to clear this issue.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:18:37 No.26811763 >>26811349 With gen 3 boom, im optimist that there's should be next gen for HoloID, just dont make a single debut Vsinger project Irys has proved it and It's not gonna works especially in niche market here

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:19:26 No.26811793 >>26811734 Well I hope ZEA joins then

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:20:08 No.26811817 >>26811607 I'm an utaitefag and I disagree with this >mixed-gender INNK INNK and project hope (EN vsingers) are "failed" projects They have 0 creative freedom. Look at what they have done to poor Irys. Even Azki now is part of Hololive proper

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:22:36 No.26811883

>>26811763
Do you think a vsinger project would work better for starsID with how some of our most notable male chuubas has musical tendencies like Reynard or Andi? I think a single vsinger debut could be a good test for cover if they want to join our male vtuber scene

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:23:35 No.26811908 >>26811685 Damn... now i have rrats that Kobo's dad is actually professional song mixer that used to handled big project from a famous musician Or.... It's Judika's music record owns mixer The mixing is too clean for vchuuba level

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:25:11 No.26811964 >>26811479 he just opened his twitter 4 hours ago kek. definitely someone she knows in RL

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:28:13 No.26812068 >>26811883 Nah that's too shallow if they only debut an single StarsID, Should be released the entire gen but It would be funny is he's gonna be the only one male in HoloID tho

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:28:18 No.26812070

>>26811817
Feels like the only reason for that are basically
>Women
While on EN for example, Luxiem has a 2nd unit song despite some of them can't sing well, this is also a reflection of the wider music scene weeb or not with fanatism towards males like KPop or western ones like Harry Styles are much more visible than their female counterparts

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:41:23 No.26812520 >>26811908 The second rrat is kinda impossible tho. She accidentally shows her 500k subs anniversary (this cover) around May, while that Judika Duma Family membered her around June

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:50:16 No.26812800 >>26812520 Here ya go my next improved rrats What if Kobo's dad is actually Judika's mixer ? this also answer to why Judika's Page comes and join her member too

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 08:51:32 No.26812829 >>26805830 We need Bayu Skak 2.0

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 09:25:09 No.26813951 >>26812800 Her reaction to Judika's channel admin joining kobolonimbus doesn't make sense.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 10:14:57 No.26815395 >>26813951 its all scripted yo. That is why you should do rehearsal before the d-day

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 10:15:57 No.26815422 >>26810206 I discovered more facts about Rafel >Rafel is a friend of ElestiaHD a 2.7m YouTuber >Part of Bapak Kau SMP >He's a scriptwriter of a Minecraft animation series : Viva Fantasy https://youtu.be/1wDkxMlO0j8 He's such a bundle of talents

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 10:28:04 No.26815717

>Viva Fantasy episode 1
https://youtu.be/2OuuDX_0JVk
It's interesting, I wonder why Hololive isn't into this. Maybe it's not a thing in Japan. On the Western side I only know Dream SMP but they didn't make animations like this, theirs are mostly fanmade traditional 2d

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 10:42:48 No.26816145 >>26811035 >fandom will rebel against anyc Kek thanks for the laugh anon

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 10:50:07 No.26816360 >>26815717 Idk anon, seeing Minecraft like that makes me kinda cringe, though I'm sure I've seen Kobo's fanart with that style

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 10:51:43 No.26816414

>>26812070
No. the reason for their failure is because Cover has complete control over their music. Holomem like Suisei and Moona can direct their own music, what kind of genre and aesthetic they want, etc while Irys and Azki can't. You see irystocrats are complaining about it a lot. Especially for the poor quality English lyrics on Irys' songs.
>Luxiem
I don't think a singing skill is a must to have for success. Their existence alone is the proof. If anything male fans are most honest than female fans.
>Singing skills
Holostars have it and they're not super popular.
I think there is more to it than singing.
Even in vsinger scene, male vsingers are rare and pull abysmal numbers compared to their female counterparts
You can ask around in /vsinger/

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 10:55:18 No.26816545 >>26816360 >cringe I understand tho. It's chuuni and poorly acted. Some Holomem are better voice actors though, I think they could pull it off

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 10:57:29 No.26816606

>>26815717
Hololive's Minecraft is based on Japan community, and they're far behind the EN community. Idk why they haven't use the proximity mod yet despite how it is and every big SMP already use it (i don't watch Dream SMP, but Hermitcraft, Empires, Last Life, etc all use the mod and it's great).

Heck they don't even use the "one player sleep" and still log out to skip the day kek. Sometimes i wish a big MC nerds (actual nerds, not nerd-lite like Moona) join hololive and can smack some sense into them.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 10:59:09 No.26816656 >>26816606 (me) >Idk why they haven't use the proximity mod yet despite how it is *despite how good it is hololive server with prox mod would be glorious

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 11:02:28 No.26816772 >>26816656 >mod I think It's the permission and copyright autism that hinders them

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 11:05:48 No.26816885 >>26816772 they already use a bunch of mod and shaders and i know who the maker of the prox mod and one player sleep is, they definitely would allow them to use it it's not the perm, they just don't know it exist

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 11:22:58 No.26817439 >>26811479 me, AMA

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 11:30:43 No.26817635

>>26816885
All of those broken english pekora image wouldn't exist if there was a proximity mod
The thing is why bother to install a mod where you talk to other when they already known each other they can just hop in to discord
i doubt they will use that unless it's for certain event

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 11:36:42 No.26817802 >>26817439 What is your usual go-to breakfast?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 11:40:44 No.26817903 >>26817439 gudeg and nasi liwet

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 11:41:47 No.26817935 >>26817903 fuck, meant to reply >>26817802

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 11:42:13 No.26817948 >>26810504 don't forget her other account @quliavtuber

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 11:51:49 No.26818198

>>26817635
>All of those broken english pekora image wouldn't exist if there was a proximity mod
Do you know what "proximity" mean anon? It has a range, and if someone are outside the range you still need to type in chat.

>The thing is why bother to install a mod where you talk to other when they already known each other they can just hop in to discord
Anon, all those SMP i mentioned before also consist of people that already know each other....
They can (and already did) use discord to talk to each other. But they all still use the mod because it's so good. There are so many great moments that only possible because of the Mods. You only think like this because you never watch it anon.

Oh, and before you bring some people like Aqua who doesn't like talking to random people so suddenly, then you can still mute / deafen to get the classic MC experience.

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 12:03:19 No.26818595

>>26811035
OP is probably gonna be mad at me but you seem genuine so here I go.
KR situation is different because they had internal management problems. Graduating isn't always a net positive career move anyway.
To be fair, everything does look like crab mentality if your measure of success is entirely defined by numbers and money.

But for real though, everytime someone mentions NijiID crab mentality it's always accompanied by the wildest threadwatcher rrats imaginable:
>Crab mentality is when talents don't graduate because if they do fans will be mad at corpo
>The main circle didn't like Mika/Bobon/Siska because they have bigger numbers.
>Something something Hanamaki self sabotage, ignoring the HoloEN tsunami and change of clipper markets at the time.
Heck /vt/ can't even decide whether they like Hana's dad or not, whether having him on the stream or not on the stream is the self sabotage. Which one is it retards? Pick one!

Nobody here understands shit, they just pretend they know everything to seem cool on a funni mongolian basket weaving board. (I'm aware that includes myself.)
It's as if you guys latch on to opinions imported from the /vt/ hivemind and try to fart out justifications out of thin air, instead of trying to form an original thought and opinion through your own observations and experiences.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 12:35:17 No.26819805 Here's some news https://mobile.twitter.com/CIROagency/status/1540231324333928454 An indie agency just closed

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 12:38:06 No.26819917 File: 207 KB, 582x643, Screenshot 2022-06-25 193559.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] damn given some advice, got attacked instead

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 12:42:04 No.26820108 >>26819917 i disagree with the attack, but that's some dumb advice

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 12:53:14 No.26820569 >>26819805 >karena adanya berbagai permasalahan pada manajemen yang membuat kami harus memutuskan untu memberhentikan layanan kegiatan agensi ciro rrats, anyone?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 12:55:44 No.26820672 >>26819917 >Makasih akasupa-nya 'username' >Read the message >React to the message Celebrating akasupa for over a minute is ruining the stream immersion

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 12:59:23 No.26820817 >>26811349 >>26811549 >>26811734 >>26811763 Eh not really, according to Yagoo latest interview he implies that there are no new auditions in the near future. Maybe for next year

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 12:59:47 No.26820836 >>26818595 Anon, those rrats are also being agreed upon by kikebookers so it's not like everything especially when it comes to ID are something that comes out from our funni mongolian basket weaving board

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 13:00:55 No.26820879 >>26819917 Dumb advice it ruins the atmosphere of the stream unless it's donation reading stream

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 13:01:51 No.26820913 >>26820569 no rrat just no money

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 13:15:26 No.26821508 >>26820817 proof ? SS ?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 13:18:28 No.26821640 There's less than 30 of you. Can't you lessers make a SEA4chan or jsut start a facebook messenger group chat instead of posting to an ENGLISH board?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 13:23:45 No.26821868 >>26801174 Remember this kek

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 13:27:35 No.26822029 >>26820569 KPK strike again

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 13:34:17 No.26822318 >>26821508 https://www.4gamer.net/games/628/G062811/20220418043/index_2.html

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 13:37:50 No.26822468 [DELETED]

>>26821640
OP here; We have reached 100 IPs before. We don't break the rules and we speak English 95% of the time. We have existed for nearly 2 months. I wish I could throw your white ass to Aceh and let them stone you for being a dumbfuck bule. Enjoy your (You), goblok.
>>26818595
I'm not that sensitive. After all, I share the same opinion as you. People have no idea about NijiID because we are in a Hololive board, kek. It's idiotic to think that NijiID "failed" because of one or two factors involving the livers. It's bigger than just "Hana shot herself in the foot".

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 13:45:27 No.26822782 >>26821868 Thanks anon, i'm happy that my ritual always worked. The reaction to Zen schizos on last thread was so much better than the previous one when i'm late kek.

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 14:29:51 No.26824571

>>26808962
they are way too ahead of the time lol
back then vtuber is still a very weeb culture, let alone streaming culture. I guess also thanks to the pandemic that vtuber grown significantly here
although I think NijiID sparked the rise of streaming-style vtubers over here. before them vtubers are still mostly VOD oriented.

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 14:45:41 No.26825272

>>26824571
>they are way too ahead of the time lol
I wonder how too ahead they were, or like when they can restart ID again to reap what they sow, it really could be that ID wasn't ready for niji or it's just that what anycolor think suits for ID wasn't really a match after all

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 14:49:52 No.26825451

>>26824571
>>26808962
Streaming (especially on youtube) is just not really a big thing yet at that time. Indonesian streaming scene started by platform like Nimo who paid big youtubers to stream on their platform. When the contract end they come back to youtube and start streaming there too since they already learned about streaming and how enjoyable / profittable it can be. Even to this day a lot of ID's streamers are streaming on other platform (altho the recent thing happening with Nimo might brings a lot of them to youtube).

Maya Putri already proved that people doesn't care if you're an anime avatars as long as you're entertaining. So vtuber is not really a weeb culture. ID market, especially in youtube, is just not ready for streamers, and it doesn't help that none of NijiID are strong enough to build streaming culture in youtube.

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 15:08:19 No.26826232

>>26825451
You can even say that a VTuber doesn't have to do livestreams. Of course, livestreaming has its strength: parasocial relationship and attachment to both parties involved. But, videos are a perfect hook for new viewers. It's a low-cost investment for them, either in time, energy, and internet data.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 15:17:39 No.26826612 >>26826232 Making content like that sometimes more exhausting than livestreams itself though.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 15:20:17 No.26826703 >>26822468 >English >aceh >bule >goblok kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 15:26:14 No.26826948 >>26826703 >This anon has really low reading skills

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 15:37:15 No.26827419 >>26826703 What even is your point.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 15:38:41 No.26827478 this thread is chill for now and most people aren't blaming us for shitting up other thread or the catalog like /#/ anyway, why bother? >>26821048 having fun at the catalog, anon?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 15:42:32 No.26827595 >>26827478 Ah, my hunch of him being a bule dumbfuck is confirmed. I'd like to thank all of you for being good anons and especially to not breach containment.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 16:04:35 No.26828324 >>26826948 >>26827419 >>26827478 thanks for the (you)s retards

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 16:08:00 No.26828440 >>26828324 You're very welcome

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 16:42:43 No.26829820 I did a survey about male chuubas on the catalogue starting from the UAE. The flip one was not deleted by jannies for 3 days and had 150 posters while the others were left till it got archieved or pruned. So yeah /vt/ had a lot of SEAs.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 16:56:00 No.26830294 >>26829820 Anon, SEA is the biggest market outside of Japan, so of course SEA will flood this board

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 17:37:28 No.26832106 >>26830294 In general SEA is fourth or fifth Second is English or NA Third is china

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 18:19:31 No.26833913 Lemao

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 19:07:44 No.26835882 I WILL GROOM MY OSHI. WATCH ME

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 20:42:09 No.26839444 >>26832106 >English or NA This is so stupid, he can't even differentiate language and region.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 21:21:57 No.26840954 >>26835882 Does indochuubas can even be groomed?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 22:05:48 No.26842389 >>26826612 Man I remember seeing a oldfag fleshtuber I liked stopped content creation on YT so he can chillax more as twitch streamer, creating VOD ideas and turning them into reality does in fact creates more burden than streaming ngl

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 22:06:50 No.26842434 >>26839444 Dunno but it's true that SEA is not second. There are lots of 5 digits Indies on twitch. Most of their audience are from North America

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 22:21:01 No.26842882 >>26825272 >they can restart ID You can be their investor and make it into reality, anon

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 22:26:09 No.26843038 >>26822318 I can't find it

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 22:30:45 No.26843172 >>26842882 Inshaallah anon, who really knows what'll happen to our ever inclining scene after this but I do think it's a pity if anycolor really just gave up without a worthy fight for our market

Anonymous Sat, Jun 25, 2022 23:55:56 No.26846572
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>>26811883
>Stars ID
An anon in catalog pointed out the possibility of male Hololive EN and ID.
Beside, Holostars members themselves are negative toward the possibility of new members of Holostars. Uproar is part of Holostars Group but not Holostars itself. Yes, I know it's confusing. I don't think it's a good strategy for cultivating the Holostars brand name.
Also anon, let's not too far ahead. Because, there hasn't been a hiring call for maleID branch manager unlike EN.
I also think the Hololive brand is a better than Holostars.
But if one day they do make an ID branch, I think the Hololive brand is more helpful than Holostars.
I'm very conflicted about this since I like the "cute girls doing cute things" flair of Hololive and I don't want HoloID to be isolated from HoloJP just because it has males.
>Picrel is another Holostars, sports-related virtual project

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 01:01:44 No.26849273 bumperino

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 01:53:30 No.26851966 I miss moona already

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 01:57:41 No.26852184 Good morn- This thread is so dead, I might as well blogposting about Andi, Kururu and Ravel

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 02:23:56 No.26853671 >>26852184 dew it

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 02:54:38 No.26855339

>>26846572
If holoEN won't be segregated by JPs over males with their current audition, a hypothetical ID won't be too
>>26816414
For JP and EN? Sure but this is ID we're talking about where if anything it's their flexibility that helped holoID to be this far and also we here probably has more notable male vsingers than female, especially now with Hibiki graduated, and Aoi Sora hardly visible atm

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 02:57:22 No.26855479 >>26846572 >there hasn't been a hiring call for maleID branch manager unlike EN if they really put them into hololive brand instead of a separate holostarts brand then they don't need it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 03:23:57 No.26856719 >>26855479 It'll be a shock for sure if suddenly holoID has male debuts from EN auditions

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 04:10:31 No.26858952 What do you think of male collabs, /warkop/ anons? I'm okay with it and I don't think it's weird or whatever. It's normal in the ID indie sphere and I'm used to it. >CAPTCHA: 2WWWW

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 04:12:59 No.26859059

>>26856719
What's more likely is Indo male debuting as StarsEN
>>26858952
I'm okay with collab in general (male/female, doesn't matter). What matter is the frequency, if say your entire career is based on collabing other vtubers, then fuck off, you don't even entertaining by yourself

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 04:37:43 No.26860186 >>26859059 I feel like I'm on the opposite of the spectrum, I prefer those with collabs as it's strong point since I don't really care about solo streams, but then again that is also comes from my preferences in fleshtubers before I know vtubers

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 04:50:51 No.26860804

>>26858952
The real question should be what's wrong with male collab? why vt hates it? I can understand if the vtuber who did the collab doing gfe and you get jealous because of your "parasocial relationship", but what if the vtuber itself is just a normal streamer? what's more ironic is people who develop parasocial relationships with anime girls usually have a problem with kpoper who also have parasocial relationship with their kpop bias.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 05:07:04 No.26861551 >>26858952 As long as both parties having fun and the games they played is up to my taste then sure.

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 05:13:59 No.26861898

>>26859059
>if say your entire career is based on collabing other vtubers, then fuck off, you don't even entertaining by yourself
i disagree anon. some people are just really entertaining when they talk and play with their friends. there are a lot of cases where someone who are boring solos becomes much more entertaining in collabs. the problem is if you only rely on your collab partner while adding nothing to the entertainment.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 05:22:55 No.26862289 >>26860804 1. shitposter that never hates male collabs in the first place 2. concernfag numberniggers that are afraid their oshi would lost their audience 3. actual schizo

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 05:32:00 No.26862682

>>26862289 (me)
most of the time it was (1) or (2). (1) was quite unique to anonymous board like 4chan, while you can find (2) everywhere. it's very often in youtube comments when someone talk about male collabs. "i don't mind, but the idol culture.... she will lost her fans" something like that.

(3) is really rare for non GFE chubas, but they exist. for example that 22 (i think? forgot the name) anon on /ehe/.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 05:36:08 No.26862873 >>26822318 Where ??

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 05:42:05 No.26863099
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>>26853671
No
Gak jadi ah udah rame lagi
>>26858952
I'm fine but please don't do impromptu collab, to respect the unicorns and yumejos
>Indo male debuting as StarsEN
From the infos I gathered, Cover never hire an ESL person for its English branch unlike Niji
>>26861898
>there are a lot of cases where someone who are boring solos becomes much more entertaining in collabs.
Yeah I agree with this anon. picrel is the example. Cowok ganteng kalem idaman jadi weirdo bangke wkwkwk yah cocok lah sama rambutnya yang aneh

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 05:43:34 No.26863157 Oops >>26863099 >>26859059

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 05:51:05 No.26863482 >>26863099 Kiara is ESL tho

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 05:58:57 No.26863805 File: 320 KB, 1152x2048, 1655520067103.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] dumb schizo thread

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 06:02:29 No.26863968

>>26863099
>I'm fine but please don't do impromptu collab, to respect the unicorns and yumejos
Reminds me of that time /nijiEN/ went to shit over impropmptu offcollab rumao
>>26860804
>why vt hates it?
Historically speaking it could be because for a lot of ENfags, they come from holoJP with their strong idolculture and suddenly they expected the same for other corpos or even other holobranches even tho cover always had different concepts for EN or ID, this is true even within SEA bcuz you can see top SG,PH,VN or TH corpos are girls only because holo is their inspiration while we here are accustomized with mixed-gender collabs because our early scene was molded by NijiID and MAHA5 with Andi even being our no1 chuuba pre-holoID, even now that legacy is still very prevalent with only foreign funded holoID and Alterly has a full-girls lineup while localcorpos has mixed gender from the start

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 06:16:15 No.26864554 >>26862682 That 22 has brain damage. Dude claiming to be "Kobo Gachi Squad" or something like that. But only can afford 15.000 dono (bare minimum) per stream

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 06:17:06 No.26864590

>>26863482
OMG how do I forgot about the fact that she speaks German?
>>26863968
>Reminds me of that time /nijiEN/ went to shit over impropmptu offcollab rumao
While the meltdown is fun for us to watch, I bet it wasn't fun for the talents involved.
Even in a normal situation, healthy, sane IRL boyfriend should not be that over jealous.
My friend had a boyfriend like that, he wasn't allowed her to even hang out with us her FEMALE friends. Dude is a legit psycho. I heard it's a sign of abusive boyfriend/girlfriend.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 06:25:22 No.26864899 >>26864590 *Wouldn't allow her

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 06:27:06 No.26864977 >>26863968 So, our community is more receptive towards collabs regardless of genders, it seems. And I believe most new VTubers viewers are also fine with it?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 06:36:16 No.26865316 >>26864977 it's okayish as long as it's not anituber

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 06:45:58 No.26865667

Anya is singing high tide wdyt?
https://youtu.be/jP0MrpXIvaI

I have nothing against GFE and BFE, cuz I'm also enjoying it (I yume'd hard at my oshis but I know the boundaries). I only have a problem with it when some people are blurring their delusions with reality and becoming psychos. BFE and GFE are just fanservice role-play, nothing more than that.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 06:50:43 No.26865832 >>26865667 it's nice... high tide without falsetto just hit different for me

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 07:09:10 No.26866425

>>26860804
talking about gfe, is there any ID chubba who does GFE? all i know is iofi really like to bait this kind of content but i dont know if she has actual gatchikoi or not. other than her i know mythi and moona also do pseudo-gfe or what i love to call fze(friendzone experience) to their viewer. i dont recall any nijis/maha doing it. so maybe if there are indies who love does gfe i want to know hows id market for gfe/bfe chubba

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 07:10:01 No.26866447 File: 100 KB, 546x583, 1656056911236.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26843038 >>26862873

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 07:27:10 No.26867022

>>26866425
Chloe? But she's more to psuedogfe according to your definition I guess. I think is still a unexplored market for id vtuber, we know how much bigo streamer can get money from doing gfe there. Or maybe id's gatchi doesn't have any interest to 2d girlfriend.

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 07:35:36 No.26867351

>>26811035
anon im pretty sure you misunderstood something at some point.
as one of the ones who stated a similar sentiment to what youre claiming, what i meant was to explain why anycolor couldnt and wouldnt graduate any exID members so they merged them instead, cause if they did people would become upset and create distrust among all nijisanji fans and livers since if management were willing to graduate a whole branch of 19 people as that would make everyone worry for their jobs.
however we dont live in that timeline where the worst outcome happened so the point barely matter now.
also the KR situation is not comparable to ID's, KRs always been a mess so them being merged was given to happen as it was a known secret KR staff were awful.

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 07:40:56 No.26867554

>>26867022
im actually curious does indo have a birthrate problem or gender unbalance like japan and china respectively have?
i havent really seen anything to indicate single women are a rare commodity in indo like it is in the west, japan or china.
though i wasnt even familar with indo in general until i got into niji id so ive got a really limited view.

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 08:10:46 No.26868617

>>26866425
>i know mythi and moona also do pseudo-gfe or what i love to call fze(friendzone experience)
You summed up Miti perfectly, she's able to act as a girlfriend, a friend, or a close friend. And I don't think I find an actual ID GFE VTuber yet.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 08:43:24 No.26869650 >>26867554 I don't think it's related to demographics at all, I believe this is more of a cultural issue especially how ID stream culture was built till now

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 08:53:15 No.26869964

>>26867554
Nah, it's pretty easy to get married in Indonesia, some of my gen z friends already have 2-3 kids and they haven't reach 30s yet. Even back when I'm still in high school the ratio of male and female are 1:3, so it's pretty easy to find a girlfriend. That's probably why gfe doesn't really popular in Indonesia especially if you are goodlooking or at least know how to talk to girl.

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 09:03:33 No.26870306
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>>26867554
>does indo have a birthrate problem or gender unbalance like japan and china respectively have?
No and no
There are more males, I'll say the ratio is pretty balanced
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1258097/indonesia-share-of-population-by-gender/
Average age of married women in Indonesia in 2017 is 22 years old

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 09:09:06 No.26870456 >>26870306 According to this alone I can guess, indonesian "gachikoi" are mostly young men/boys and they don't have that much money. Unlike in Japan when gachikois are mostly older working men.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 09:21:11 No.26870780 >>26866447 >That's kind of tailored to the needs of the fans. Even if you increase it mischievously... I think so. not mentioning any auditions

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 09:25:19 No.26870874 HoloEn audition is forever open. HoloID on the other hand....

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 09:41:56 No.26871315 >>26870874 with the popularity of ID3 and ID1 performance at holofest, yagoo will open the 4th gen audition in the future.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 09:58:47 No.26871725 >>26871315 HoloEN gen3 is still questionable they will not announced HoloID gen4 before HoloEN gen3 I mean debuting more gen is good but they are not nijisanji who likes to flood the market

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 09:59:19 No.26871736
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Rafel singing welcome to wonderland. Kururu is beautiful and sensual. Meanwhile rafel beautiful and pure. An angel chuuba that actually sounds angelic. I prefer this over the original kek
I literally haven't found a voice anywhere near this soft in Western indie and corpo scene. It's mind-blowing honestly.
https://youtu.be/TT7sYV3FCCY?t=106

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 10:05:22 No.26871878 >>26810504 >>26810679 Could you tell us more about Serena's circle? Who are they? What's their goal?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 10:09:36 No.26871985 File: 734 KB, 867x657, 1647673290771.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26819917 >Posting botfess tweet Of course he got attacked, the whole place filled with ironical fujos and kpops

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 10:13:17 No.26872072 >>26864554 The fuck does gachi squad means?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 10:14:51 No.26872118 >>26872072 Pre-pubescent boys

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 10:15:54 No.26872154 >>26866447 You're reaching

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 10:20:44 No.26872298 I now kinda understand why NijiID is not popular

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 10:23:12 No.26872374

>>26871878
People who are known doxxers in her circle are Ryle Hirano, Renka, and Myuasui. One of my sources say myu attempted to dox Mythia a while ago or atleast went around telling people Miti's real name.
They probably just get a thrill from knowing VTuber identities, or they doxx to gain trust like "Hey I know this agency VTuber, you should trust me"

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 10:32:14 No.26872641 >>26872298 why?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 10:36:04 No.26872760 >>26872374 >Ryle Hirano Whattt???? I thought he's the doxxed, well that's certainly new for me

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 10:39:56 No.26872904

>>26870780
>>26866447
>Harada: How many talents do you belong to now?
>Tanigo:There are 68 people in total all over the world. However, the groups are divided by gender, and they are also divided by region.
>Harada: Do you plan to increase the number in the future?
>Tanigo: It feels like it meets the needs of fans. I think that even if I increase it unnecessarily ...
>Harada: Is that so? I thought that I would rather increase the number to 100 or 200. The more talents there are, the more fans will be interested in it. In the end, it will be something like "800 people in all!"
>Tanigo: That may be different from the game. It depends on the talent's life, and the current idea is that it is not enough to simply increase the number.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 10:45:24 No.26873069 >>26872374 >Serena shinju >Ryle Hirano >Renka >Myuasui >Yakougao Anyone else? Keep the names coming

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 10:45:32 No.26873070 >>26871985 Nice, dungeon meshi. One of my top ten manga. It's really underrated in ID and barely discussed to in the west.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 10:51:41 No.26873274 >>26872641 Make me regret defending their fans at some point >why? Maybe next thread

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 10:52:45 No.26873321 >>26873274 You need 3 days? How many essay that you want to put anyway.

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 10:53:02 No.26873333

>>26872904
>>26743752
>Harada: How many talents do you have in your company now?
>Tanigo: We have a total of 68 talents worldwide. We have separate groups for men and women, and also for each region.
>Harada: Do you plan to increase the number in the future?
>Tanigo: That will depend on the needs of the fans. I don't think we should just go ahead and add more at .......
>Harada: Is that so? I had thought that the number of fans would increase to 100 or 200. The more talent we have, the more fans will be interested. Eventually, I thought it would be something like "800 people in total! I thought it would be something like "800 people in total!
>Tanigo: That may be the difference from a game. The talent's lives are at stake, and it is not simply a matter of increasing the number.

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 11:03:59 No.26873681

>>26872904
>>26873333
It really make sense if you think about it, EN wise I think it's a public secret about what happened with council, while in ID and maybe JP too you got this issue with how to keep some of your senpais growing as good as their new debuts

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 11:08:47 No.26873847

>>26873333
That sounds like nothing's changed. They already slowed down and "depends on the needs pf the fans" since 2021. IMO it actually supported the possibility of ID4 since it's clear there's a bigger demand now. They probably wont rush it tho, maybe after ID2 get their 3D.

I'm guessing May-June next year debut, maybe audition in October.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 11:09:54 No.26873885 >>26873681 >EN wise I think it's a public secret about what happened with council What happen? is this has something to do with omega?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 11:12:24 No.26873964 >>26873885 nta Cannibalizing myth audience/not bringing new fans, maybe

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 11:17:17 No.26874138

>>26873681
Council is fine i think (except Sana kek), despite what /#/ said they're more or less performed similar with Unsharked Myth. Gura is just a different beast, so does Pekora and Kobo in their respective branch. Expecting every branch to have powerful chuba like them is just unrealistic imo.

Meanwhile, Irys is indeed a failure kek. She supposed to be a Vsinger.

>while in ID and maybe JP too you got this issue with how to keep some of your senpais growing as good as their new debuts
ID1 & 2 still doing fine and some even inclined after ID3 debut, so it's still healthy. I remember when ID fight the ender dragon, people expecting disgusting numbers from the overlaps but everyones actually get great ccv despite Kobo getting 10k+ and Moona with 7k+.

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 11:23:24 No.26874343

>>26873333
Makes sense because their business isn't just streamer they also have like holoALT and other thing
Now imagine if there is like 100 or 200 vtuber under hololive brand they will need to bring all of them to their other projects.
Hololive isn't nijisanji in hololive everyone gets a piece of the pie even the lower performed one, where in nijisanji you need to be the top or mid level to get it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 11:29:07 No.26874579 >>26874138 In irys case, I think it was a management fault. She was left stranded. no 2nd outfit, no 3D, nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 11:40:06 No.26875002 >>26872760 Huh... where did you hear this? The last thing he did before leaving the community is share this document he made explaining his past drama within the cosplay community to VTubers, and it literally had his real name in it

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 11:59:36 No.26875793

>>26872374
>One of my sources say myu attempted to dox Mythia a while ago or atleast went around telling people Miti's real name
Jesus fucking Christ, that's fucked up. I'd suggest you to send screenshots to solidify your claims. I don't want to doubt you, but it would be nice to have an actual case to talk about, not mere rumours.

Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 12:39:23 No.26878072

>>26874579
Yeah, definitely. Altho i don't think 2nd outfit is important for her as a vsinger, but no 3d and no concert is weird for a vsinger.

I honestly don't mind if cover want to make "ID Vsinger". We have a lot of great singer, male and female. Just commit to it regardless of the results. Don't backtracked barely a couple month after debut like irys just because you're more famous as a streamer instead of a singer kek. Atleast commit to 1 year focus mostly as a singer, if they failed then you can Azki-ed them.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 13:05:06 No.26879373 >>26875002 One of my circlejerk is close to Ryle's so that circlejerk knew his pov more than the opposite

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 13:18:33 No.26880027 Hana Macchia said on stream that if into reality reaches 2 million before the end of June then she will make an original song. As a reminder, into reality is here: https://youtu.be/BR-aIzE3QI0

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 13:31:37 No.26880556 https://youtu.be/KoAHG0vXyRk ID corpo Among Us collab (Re:Memories, Alterly, Metanoia). Link above is Karissa's POV.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 14:14:16 No.26881995 File: 173 KB, 451x395, 1648638406001.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] you guys play holocure?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 14:19:55 No.26882205 >>26880027 i forgot how good into:reality is (except for the ""'motivational""' part), i like it better than id:entity

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 14:27:12 No.26882425 >>26882205 the motivational part is cringe but good anon i personally like both a lot (and Hi-15 too) the vibes are different so it's hard to compare. also it's funny how the vibes fit both branch's fate kek

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 14:56:24 No.26883452 >>26873069 @SteiaStar is renka reincarnation you can tell by their interaction in Yakugao twitch stream.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 15:04:07 No.26883751 >>26881995 Played it for a while. It's a fun time sink

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 15:31:47 No.26884859 >>26880027 I'd imagine a Hana orisong would be like this https://youtu.be/b82QWqhDwmc

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 15:41:07 No.26885191 >>26815395 There is no point him joining membership if it's all scripted

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 16:19:30 No.26886623 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbcCOQ11HUU >CAPTCHA: VTGRR

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 17:11:52 No.26888903 >bump

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 18:10:21 No.26891526 >latenight >no bumps >page10 Is... Is it my time to shill? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ6ZAFwujss

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 18:51:59 No.26893236 I didn't know Miti is live rn, also her l2d sleep face is cute https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDFYdvxmTts

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 19:59:15 No.26896084 File: 22 KB, 373x372, 1635910355408.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 20:53:34 No.26898199 >>26896084 ehe~

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 21:54:12 No.26900506 >>26874579 It's weird how rn it's Mori who showcased herself as the true vsinger of EN with how insane her career leap is now

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 22:07:17 No.26900975 >>26885191 Its written on the script yo

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 23:24:37 No.26904015 >>26880027 please help us gang!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 26, 2022 23:52:53 No.26905021 File: 367 KB, 680x665, mythiaogey.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26904015 Sure thing, but please don't do it excessively. The last thing I want to see here is people calling you Nijibeggars.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 00:02:13 No.26905304 >>26880027 >25k views in 4 days Yeah I'm not fancying your chances

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 01:05:55 No.26907858 sundul gan

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 01:53:58 No.26910334 >>26893236 Miti wa, kyou mo kawaii~

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 03:14:23 No.26915452 File: 1.05 MB, 1080x1025, 1650229056569.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 03:14:28 No.26915456 https://youtu.be/sdAs_G2gg4E What the hell is this clip, jej. Off dulu, mau mandi wajib.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 03:17:44 No.26915703 >>26915456 https://youtu.be/_Thi_xaXiK4?t=9471 Also, Airi's pantsu, timestamped for your convenience.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 04:04:17 No.26919183 >>26915456 asking for pantsu color is passe, this is the real deal

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 05:41:43 No.26926006 https://twitter.com/vestiazeta/status/1541290225183629312 Is the entire holoID going to meet up tomorrow?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 05:44:25 No.26926180 >>26926006 according to kaela tweet yes, i hope we got some offcolab stream too

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 05:46:29 No.26926337 >>26875002 qrd or docs please literally everyone i asked have diffrent takes on this so i guess the rumour have gone weird or somebody is lying

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 06:22:27 No.26928623 File: 543 KB, 1200x788, gambar_2022-06-27_132123942.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] /warkop/bros we're inclining!

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 06:25:00 No.26928763 >>26928623 kek

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 06:32:47 No.26929179 >>26928623 OH SHIT Om Mobi Vtuber when?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 06:36:07 No.26929368 >>26929179 kek, it's not that impossible considering he already hide his face

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 06:40:42 No.26929609 >>26928623 Om-om watching Kobo? Unsurprising.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 06:42:02 No.26929686 >>26929609 That is the target demographic

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 06:46:52 No.26929964 >>26929686 A fellow cultured Ojisan. Hiragi is in danger now.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 06:54:35 No.26930398 The board are now busy with Mori drama

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 07:03:08 No.26930862 File: 1.58 MB, 1392x998, kobokerz samarinda.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Kobobros.. we're taking over...

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 07:05:06 No.26930957 File: 331 KB, 871x607, 1656156324074.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26930862 Nice, good job brotha

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 07:08:08 No.26931122 >>26930862 >She keeps inclining even during hiatus

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 07:14:26 No.26931482 File: 372 KB, 1536x2048, kobo sd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Another Kobo appearance

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 08:08:49 No.26934074 Kulikomis statement on le doxing conflict: https://twitter.com/Kulikomis/status/1541078685004214276

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 08:51:06 No.26935918 >>26930862 >>26928623 I legit believing at this point that Kobo is going to surpass Gura. Yagoo and M chan awakened the sleeping giant market by recruited this kid.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 09:08:00 No.26936617 >>26935918 >Gura Bagaimana menurut agan2 sekalian tentang possible yab yang sedang ramai dibicarakan oleh orang2 EN di trit2 sebelah?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 09:16:36 No.26936988 >>26936617 Hell if I care, I'm watching Miti right now. But it sounds dumb, to be honest.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 09:29:24 No.26937564 >>26936988 Just checked the drama >Mori is retard >dramafag is more retard well IDC to be honest

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 09:33:06 No.26937728 >>26937564 Yeah me neither but fuck whoever that guy who posted FULL HOLOID IRL FACES except Anya, Kobo and Zeta. Thank God jannies are doing their work. If this is deadbeats making deflection thread, fuck them, hope Mori is fucking terminated.

Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 10:02:22 No.26938993

Huh. So, Miti continued her donothon and it coincided with this tweet gaining the attention of ID VTuber community: https://twitter.com/akira_k4zuki/status/1540571641402470402
TL;DR, a pre-debut VTuber made a thread about how subathon is misunderstood by some and therefore, some are doing it wrong. People debated about what subathon means and the pre-debut VTuber got this DM:
https://twitter.com/akira_k4zuki/status/1540875147380686849

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 10:04:54 No.26939104 >>26930862 why is there a guy just casually holding a rifle ?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 10:10:02 No.26939323 File: 229 KB, 498x373, 1645078571571.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26936617

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 10:23:46 No.26939919 >>26938993 These Ttuber are source for drama

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 11:07:02 No.26942118 >>26939919 Their concern is not fully wrong, but somehow, it turned into a micro-drama. Maybe that's just the issue of small VTubers being clueless on PR.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 11:16:03 No.26942821 >>26939919 They usually make drama to get some attention before their debut, it's not the first time shit like this happen, even tho what he said is not wrong the dm guy also right he should focus more to his debut before taking about anybody else.

Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 11:17:41 No.26942969

>>26939104
because nature is finally healing after 2 years of non-irl events. Those are the types that you will find in any school/college cultural event
>military freak with ops gear and fake guns
>someone that cosplay as masked DJ (Marsmello is pictured)
>dude that keeps his motorcycle helmet the whole show
>someone being carried on another's shoulder
>female anime cosplayer
>panitia sok asik in the crowd
>people wearing ethnic accessories (blankon / iket kepala)
it's all there in the fb vid, but linking it here just makes 4chan throw a spam tantrum. sight like this are actually kinda nostalgic lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 11:18:43 No.26943057 >>26936617 Bodo Amat >>26942118 It really start to look like the EN vtubing scene

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 11:21:28 No.26943267 >>26935918 At this current rate there's no way kobo can surpass gura, kobo fanbase is still limited to "wibu normie" she need more work if she want to get the absolute normie market.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 11:23:41 No.26943418 >>26942969 i went to a weeb event a while ago, and it indeed feels nostalgic. what surprises me is the amount of younger kids i saw in the event. i'm talking about actual SD kids with their parents/siblings and more SMP kids.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 11:26:47 No.26943651 >>26943267 Give it some time, she just started her career, 3 months in. Windah didn't instantly gaining 7M subscibers within his first year. Do note that ID market is different with EN and JP.

Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 11:32:48 No.26944005

>>26943651
>ID market is different with EN and JP.
This is true. Did you know that up to this day there are still some rural Indonesian uploading Harlem Shake videos?
We don't expect ID vtubers to blow up like Gura or Salome, but once they're gaining momentum, they will grow until who knows when.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 11:54:12 No.26945403 >>26934074 kuli komis already throwing statements, yet still no proof from those who joined the conflict

Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 11:58:49 No.26945731

>>26943267
>>26943651
>>26944005
Kobo will gain momentum when she reaches 1 million subscribers. Indonesian is numberfag by nature, when they (or we) see big numbers, they go "oh shit, this must be great".
Kobo also said that she'll sing Indo song when she is close to 1 million subscribers, so she'll definitely gain momentum again

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 12:37:16 No.26948022 >>26937564 Out of the loop, what's the drama about?

Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 12:40:06 No.26948165

>>26948022
From my understanding
>gura is renting an air bnb house
>mori come
>she invites her sister
>her sister brought a bunch of people
>partying hard
>gura isn't comfortable
>decided to stay in her room
>then mori streams in the next room
>mori talks about it
>chaos ensues

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 13:12:24 No.26949988 https://youtu.be/4-aiEvcn_64 Miti karaoke!

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 13:25:47 No.26950746 >>26872374 Bro, Renka is Ninomiya Sho from Snowdrop ID now. I think their circle now is inside Snowdrop.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 13:27:01 No.26950814 >>26871878 They are basically inside Snowdrop ID now, especially Renka ( Ninomiya Sho ). Beware if you are Indie.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 13:29:54 No.26950971 >>26945403 >posting on new acc not her past acc >not apologetic at all nor putting out any statement >hurr memory goldfish yeah well https://twitter.com/miyukkiko/status/1541335922825801729

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 13:36:44 No.26951373 >>26950814 >Beware if you are Indie fuck me. can someone please do an infodump about them and i don't know, post them somewhere?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 13:38:28 No.26951454 >>26951373 Some of anon here know some of them. Two from that circle are famous lesbian cosplayers.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 13:39:25 No.26951509 >>26951454 i know those twos, are they doxxers too?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 13:40:41 No.26951576 >>26951509 I don't know but i can make sure someone from their circle, especially Sho is a doxxer.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 13:48:48 No.26951983 >>26950814 it's obv not him , voice way diffrent https://www.twitch.tv/yakougao/clip/ApatheticCalmHawkFUNgineer-GgjT8geSsdqVTCCy

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 13:53:27 No.26952212 >>26951983 >https://www.twitch.tv/yakougao/clip/ApatheticCalmHawkFUNgineer-GgjT8geSsdqVTCCy I think he is using voice changer. His APEX account basically same.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 13:58:53 No.26952522 >>26952212 No anon, it's voicemeeter. He just change his pitch and change how he speak.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 13:59:16 No.26952544 >>26952212 even if he is using changer sho's accent are way off from Renka/Steia. You can still find Renka's clip on YT

Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 14:02:39 No.26952735

>>26952544 (me)
Even though there is a possibility of them being the same person, without proper evidence it would just point fingers to Sho that would cause misunderstanding if this turns out to be false information.

>>26951576
I have never heard anything about Sho doxxing so QRD please.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 14:21:59 No.26953765 >>26950814 dude serena's circle literally doxxed snowdrop id. what the fuck makes you think he's renka

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 14:32:35 No.26954372 >>26950814 Ryle doxxed the Snowdrop talents to gain an indie VTuber's trust. Ryle and Renka were in one circle. Snowdrop ID knows about this whole case, so what makes you think Renka would get into Snowdrop??

Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 14:44:31 No.26955100

>>26954372 (me)
Sho is also clearly not even Indonesian, during his debut he specified that he's still learning. He also has a somewhat malaysian or singaporean accent.
Here's a better clip of Renka's voice and how he speaks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V_1pwveBl8

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 14:49:47 No.26955416 >>26954372 So many evidence that he is Renka. Source: trust me. Welp, are you new? we was discuss about Sho long time ago in warkop,

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 14:50:42 No.26955464 I don't usually watch IDs but I have to say Xia is cute and has some pretty great taste in games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Iu6JbL3wCA

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 14:55:03 No.26955725 >>26955464 should've played the ps3 version

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 14:58:04 No.26955922 >>26955416 yeah renka totally disappeared for a year and came back with a malay accent. if you hate snowdrop, don't try to pin the blame on them. their talents were victims here.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 14:59:57 No.26956015 >>26938993 and he's absolutely right, most of the replies gets too defensive kek

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 15:03:17 No.26956235 >>26954372 I think this is a rrat. Because i got from Virtunix insider and get the chat evidence that indie vtuber is the one who give dox information to Ryle first. He just reply her information. Ryle was terminated for damage control.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 15:04:23 No.26956290 >>26955464 i respect xia a lot. though im sad that shes got a sex design but doesnt want to be lewded because of her own history. i dont know what happened to her fyi, just vague implications.

Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 15:05:19 No.26956352
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For the love of God, share the PROOFS regarding the doxing circle. A screenshot, a post, a link, whatever that could proof your point, share it. I have no qualms with rrat-peddling, but it gets annoying when all you posts are "I heard..." or "I think...". For starter, someone listed people inside Serena's doxer circle. Is there any chat/talks that indicates them doxing someone?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 15:06:06 No.26956388 >>26954372 This rrat was died long time ago.

Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 15:24:06 No.26957557

>>26954372
Is this rumor was Snowdrop version? Because Virtunix version is different. It was because Ryle spread document with his irl information. About that doxxed thing, from chat evidence it was that indie vtuber (Kurohimeluna) who spread it to their talent first (Ryle).

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 15:26:05 No.26957696 >>26956388 Yeah, some people forgot that people from virtunix are /here/

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 16:03:11 No.26960313 >>26957696 Fr?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 16:13:22 No.26961034 >>26960313 Yes anon. I am Mira's husband.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 16:14:41 No.26961137 >>26961034 Fuckoff, Mira is mine.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 27, 2022 16:23:49 No.26961742 >>26961034 Pretty much the most obvious thing outta virtunix since her chara is medform's gijinka

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