>all these zhang apologists ITT
genuinely go fuck yourselves, the chinkout was the closest Hololive got to actually fucking dying. They lost an entire branch and one of the strongest Vtubers in their roster because of that crap. And despite that they PROVED they can absolutely make it without the zhangs.
Meanwhile NijiEN is utterly imploding despite their nonstop CN pandering and China's own Vtuber scene is completely dead due to state mandated doxxing.