/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>Gloating that the AR is resuming
>Yab happened
YAGOD I KNEEL

>>72532434
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

>>72531517
Fans

>rissoto cheating on his fiancee with his co-worker inside nijisanji is real
no wonder wolfychu had that menhera and then grimposting moment in twitter

GRIM

>>72532515
qrd?

>>72532598
check previous thread

>>72532598
Luca getting reamed by his menhera ex skinwalker p.2

ENcucks are melting down…

Nijisanji is a black stain on vtubing

>Going back to when Luxiem debuted, Luca would complain and start comparing his numbers to his wave mates. He had always been obsessed with comparing himself to others and is always worried about his viewer count and how many people are talking in chat.

>>72532564
REAPER

>>72532731
I wonder if he was a frequent visitor to this thread

>He believed he deserved as much attention as his other wave mates were getting, mainly Vox. He would constantly be on sites like 4Chan and blame it on Selen showing him.
Kek they were already blaming selen way back then

>>72532598
Luca taking fat menhera cock and is scared of pregnant women

>>72532795
>Selen is confirmed /here/

>>72532795
lmfao that's fucking pathetic

>Luca would antagonize 4Chan after a hand cam stream where he carved a Jack-'o-Lantern in October 2022. The tweet would have random capitalized letters that would read “RENT L FREE”. I would express to Luca about how this wasn’t safe.
>4chan is literally living rent free in nijilivers heads
will never be not funny to me

>>72532842
selen probably went ego searching on wvt, way back before she was selen.

# is the Cunny General

>>72532786
Well, one of the people who went to bat for nijisanji all the time was a lucub, it might have been him.

>>72532795
>Selen showed Luca /vt/
HOLY KEK

If anyone else is in Boston, just so you know, there's like.
A whole ass extra panel with Advent. Tomorrow, at like 1 PM. That isnt the meet and greet. In a side room.
They just, didn't advertise it? At all?

>>72532964
retardchama...

>>72532947
cunnies

>>72532891
What was the deal with the jack'-o-lantern?

Don't ask me how I know this but they are here, expect more blame being shifted towards Doki and "dragoons" behaving more retarded than usual

>>72533026
>Don't ask me how I know this
Nigga we're all reading the same document we know they're here

>>72532997
>>72532947
Cunnies indeed

>>72532950
Don't forget, when this thread starting talking about how bad raid retention hurt the algo all of a sudden Niji stopped raiding.

>Nijifes was supposed to happen with Shu, Vox, and Mysta getting a 3D spot in it back in 2022. Luca and Ike were never informed of this and had to find out via another Liver that they would be left out
>Luca and Ike were the NijiID of Luxiem
GRIM

>>72533026
Everyone already knows they're here lol. Not really a secret

>>72533170
Are we the most influential thread or do we happen to catch the attention of the most retarded vtubers?

>>72533210
Should have farmed more money from the fujos

Numbers Update

>>72533210
HAHAHHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA

>>72532842
>she saw the posts from the dragoon that used to spam that he loved her

>>72533112
>>72533224
What I meant is that they are making a move, it's another attempt at pushing a new narrative.

Wife post

>>72533210
>Luca and Ike were the NijiID of Luxiem
That must've bruised his ego

>>72533280
>>72533297
>Imagine bootlicking for a company that doesnt even think that you are worth their support

>>72533291
Micomet is slowing down but maybe 1M in 2 days is possible?

>>72532891
>turned out numberfags were the one living rent free in his head
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
HOW
HOW DOES EVERY NIJI RRAT TURNS OUT TRUE???

>>72533469
this is entertainment business not being a fucking indie, Ike just coasted instead of actually working so I dont fucking care about him getting his feefees hurt

>>72533403
They've been "making a move" since February anon

>>72533403
>What I meant is that they are making a move, it's another attempt at pushing a new narrative.
I hope they realize that pushing that narrative here is useless due to 2 things
1.)Majority of the people are indifferent or despise Nijisanji
2.)Even if they somehow pull a miracle and change the narrative here it wont do them any good since the mainstream narrative is still going to be negative against nijisanji
Only way they can change that is if Nijisanji somehow manages to pay Charlie or Asmongold enough money to shill them on stream

>>72533469
>they got ghosted
>management never told them
HAHAHHAHAAAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

>>72533411

Pippa numbers

I WAS WAITING IN THE WRONG FUCKING LINE
SHIT
FUCK
THE LINE FOR THE CONCERT IS SO FUCKING LONG
I'M GONNA GET IN BUT IM GONNA BE SO FUCKING FAR BACK

>>72533210
>>72533469
One big happy family, right everybody?

>>72533006
iirc this thread was making fun of him spamming handcam buff.
I think Luca alone did almost 2 handcam streams a week back in Sep/Oct 2022

>>72533469
>He found out because of Petra having a big mouth
lmfao
Also you know why he didn't get the slot? He didn't have enough international viewers in Feb.

>>72533670
Bicoco...

>>72533670
PEBBLE YOU DUMB FUCK LMOAI
good luck

>>72533717
I see, that makes sense, i thought it was about what he did on stream

>>72533682
I LOVE MY NIJIEN FAMILY SO MUCH BROS

>>72533717
I still find it funny that he timed his magical 30k CCV first handcam stream to happen on the same day as Gura's 3D live. I wonder if he was expecting to beat her.

Reminder that she is /here/

MOST

>>72533751
This does not help my perception of the all out war screenshot being leaked on purpose

>>72533670
dumb as a rock...

>>72533798
orcschizo…

>>72533767
Yeah we also made fun of his shitty craftmanship but I don't think that was what he's talking about

>>72533717
It's kind of hilarious that he assumed it was something like seething and not just people (obviously) pointing out that spamming unlimited handcam works would kill the buff not only for him but for everyone.

You know, just like they managed to kill every single other category of buff stream doing the same exact thing.

>AR live was cancelled because the guy running it was an NFT guy an they were afraid of being linked to future NFT projects
I am fucking amazed at how even the most outlandish rrats we had for nijisanji is still not on the level of what actually happened

>>72533884
He seems petty enough for that to have gotten to him

>>72533798
>Showed Selen 4chan, which made Selen show it to Luca

IT'S SO FUCKING FAR
JESUS
AND I'M GONNA HAVE TO DO SPY REPS I can't sit in an end seat bros this shits gonna be hard

>>72533891
Anon this was after ALL OUT WAR, this thread was also seething about Luxiem numbers.

>>72533955
QRD?

>>72533909
Man, i was betting on some JP taking issue with them

>>72533909
Yeah I call bullshit on that.

So we can confirm that the reason why Nijisanji fell and Hololive EN rose is because Holos are always busy with idol homework while Nijisanji are always /here/ when off stream?

Curiously, the only Holos who are terminally /here/ are the anti-idol groups, like Mori and ID.

>>72532947
Yes.

>>72534062
>mori
>anti-idol
You're so 2000 and late

>>72533909
I think this is more Luca and co. being dumbasses than the AR Live *actually* being canceled for having a producer who's obsessed with NFTs.

>>72534062
Mori is the most Idol in EN

>>72533909
Can you imagine if that guy had a spot in 2020, we could have seen a niji NFT scam.... we have to settle with the AR live scam...

>>72533909
Are you illiterate, this was for their anniversary song not AR live

>>72534062
selen is also permanently /here/ she shared a joke posted in /nijiEN/ with Fulgur in real time

HoloGods how are we feeling

also qrd on the past 6h

>>72533955
>anon is doxxing himself in real time
idk what to think about this

>>72534062
>anon is still living in 2021

>>72534062
Mori recieved idol correction

>>72534131
No one else is here seemingly it's fine

>>72534062
There's nothing wrong about reading /vt/ as long as you don't take anything said in here to heart.
Clearly NijiEN didn't get the memo, unlike Mori.

>>72533751
Yeah it's not some hard to crack mystery. Vox and Mysta were always the most popular and Shu has been the most popular with JP fujos.

>>72534062
Mori is the busiest EN that also streams alot

>>72534172
Mori's an oldfag. Born in 4chan and molded by it.

Any deets from around the time of the Discord leak?

>>72534029
>Yeah I call bullshit on that.
Not really if you check Anycolors linkedin the Izumo guy is still there and he is a bigwig in Sony's NFT projects

Also I just noticed that a couple of people in their members area put vtuber in their profile thats just pure retardation

>>72534094
Right?
It's not like the producer's name gonna be listed in the credit anyway and nobody in the english chuuba sphere knew about the NFT stuff back then.
Hell, we only know about it because of the yab this year.

>>72534172
You can even take things to heart from here, IF and only IF you have a quality mental filter between honest advice, honest but bad advice, and shitposts.

>>72534128
another day
another niji yab

>>72533909
Didn't we already know this somewhat? We knew that NijiEN had old staff that left to form some NFT company that flopped through their linkedin.

>>72534118
More reason to make fun of them.

>>72534174
I am literally listening to this right now. Stop spying on me you fuck

>>72534062
At least she got a nice song out of it, what did niji get? The 4chan simulator stream

Guys
Is our reporter actually... a fucking retard?

>>72534131
What is the problem of anon doxxing himself? Most anons are either harmless fat fucks or femboys

>>72534304
The problem with "honest advice" is that this board may be even more disconnected from the reality of how a vtuber agency and vtuber job works more than any other board is disconnected from its respective industry. Even more than /v/ and the video game industry.

>>72534131
No one cares about that. I posted pics in global when I went to ctw and it led to me meeting some guys and we got food after the concert.

Oh wow, he might piss trans folks!

>>72534413
There's a reason he never scores

>>72534327
>We knew that NijiEN had old staff that left to form some NFT company that flopped through their linkedin.
different guy
NFT VP guy is still there see >>72534267

>Luca was seething about other people hooking up behind the scenes
That's funny.

>>72534267
that bright background color is associated with a crypto project jack dorsey started btw, zenon; so he's a crypto fag

t. scammed tards years ago

>>72534416
the only true advice from /vt/ is stay away from males and be mindful that your audience will be lonely men
and no this doesnt mean that you gotta do gfe

>>72534448
>Luca is the reason why Yugo graduated
Okay, this is BIG big

>>72534448
Uki is going to blow a gasket about this.

>>72534448
HOLY SHIT LUCA WAS BULLYING YUGO

finana looking worse than usual numberwise shes half finana today

>>72534448
and now yugo is more successful than luca roru
life comes at you fast retard

>>72534451
>anon gets into situations where he almost scores
>fails every time due to both outside factors and his own retardation
Our own Archie Comics stories, what a bargain

>>72534491
Yeah, that's shit advice. Everyone has their own niche
>picrel

>>72534416
>this board may be even more disconnected from the reality of how a vtuber agency and vtuber job works more than any other board is disconnected from its respective industry
If only you knew

>>72534618
Chu~

>>72533469
So this is why SEAsters were ramping up their braindead Gura merch baiting, huh?
Get fucked RUMAO.

>happy that she's reaching out to people
>sad she's not doing a solo stream and I have to sit through LOTR
I hate this

>>72534660
what are you talking about, /biz/ is very attuned to how the industry of nft grifting works

>>72534448
wtf I love Luca now?

>>72534637
>le a few successful in spite of it proves the rule wrong
kill yourself

>>72534461
>Luca was seething because /vt/ portrayed him as some sort of gigolo gigachad with a harem when in reality other livers were hooking up around him and he was stuck with a bitter old hag
Kino

Luca is a millionaire? Or at least this woman thinks he was/is

>>72534660
Sure some chuuba and chuuba-adjacent people are here, but almost, if not all the "advice" in here are from nobodies with zero experience and knowledge about how the industry works.

Fuck its starting to hurt again, I miss Goobs..........i wanna see her

>>72534740
>few
Anon, generally speaking, unicorn-focused chuubas ARE the exception.

>>72534448
>he's transphobic
HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH HE'S GONNA GET FUCKED

>>72534754
IDR millionaire maybe.
>2%

Fun fact: there are "no images" and "no photos" for the Boston Karaoke.
Wouldn't it be crazy if someone brought multiple recording devices haha

>>72534821
Not only transphobic, but openly admitting about bullying his own coworker.
How fucking stupid this kid is jesus jumping jack christ

>>72534448
this would unironically be big if the Nijisister community didn't automatically ignore everything Mizuchi posts

Like she reveal Luca raped and killed someone and they'd be like "UM OK GROOMER"

>>72534804
Buy her watch and maybe she will come back

>>72534804
you just need to goom

>>72534448
She was really trying to be his mother figure, hm?!

>>72534897
stop deflecting sis

JWU who got gold?

>>72534448
Ms. Faggeta, GET DOWN!

>>72534761
Most advice given here is from the perspective of consumers so it's not entirely worthless. If it's advice regarding what cover can do then sure but if it's critiques given it splits then that's mostly fine.

>>72534917
me

>>72534893
I don't know anon, twitter folks will skin him alive, I guarantee it.

>>72534386
>listening
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ01169631.html
nice.

>>72534893
>this would unironically be big if the Nijisister community didn't automatically ignore everything Mizuchi posts
if this crosses to the jp side like the chronoirfags like last time it might be grim
the only reason why it died there was because of selens termination

>>72534491
>the only true advice from /vt/ is stay away from males and be mindful that your audience will be lonely men
Nah, the real advice is "don't shit on your audience". People will go to the ends of the earth to defend you even from male collabs, but if you start antagonizing your audience for any reason you'll start creating civil wars.

Man, fuck stagger resist, auto heal and all that other garbage, the REAL good item on Botan is the IRyS one, extra roll distance is crazy good on her

>>72534741
it's a matter of POV. I bet /hag/ would kill to be in his place

>>72534804
Is she still in Taiwan? Once she got there I never heard shere she is now

>>72534958
congrats anon, posting your lewds soon?

>>72534952
>consumers
sure, but /vt/ is unironically a drop in the ocean in terms of number.

>>72534893
the tranny thing will sink him

>>72535038
nyo

https://files.catbox.moe/fh7ktb.mp4

So why isn't he getting terminated?
What's so worth it keeping a radioactive nuke inside Niji?
What info is he holding hostage that makes him worth more than Selen?

>>72534961
Yeah I was listening to Tsubame Yuzuki stuff on japaneseasmr

>sisters trying to shift the discussion towards hololive, starting with gura and suisei
how very transparent.

>>72535012
I appreciate an older woman, but everything I've seen of that particular person flags the keep her very far away from me and preferably out of sight part of my brain.

They excluded Luca and picked real golden 3 of Luxiem because of their numbers, ahahahahaha
This google doc is goldmine

Woah, a good item!
You should probably be able to select an item to start with as a passive rather than inventory system

>>72534810
"unicorn-focused" maybe, that's a really specific and loaded term (and not a very sensical one, who would even qualify), but "unicorn-friendly" aren't the minority in Hololive and certainly aren't the minority in the upper echelons. It's far more of an exception if a top-tier Holo does male collabs than doesn't

>>72535072
Juicy rhymes with Suisei

>>72535039
You'd be surprised

>Another Nijisanji Liver confirmed by DM the Aster allegations after this had been made public.
>Luca Harassing Other Coworkers:
>I also received a message from the same Nijisanji liver above about Luca harassing others inside of Nijisanji EN. The messaged read:
>“[Luca] has done a lot of bad things not just to you so thank you for sharing your experience”

>>72534988
Yep, this

>>72534448
Roru
Rumao

>>72535219
There's virtually no difference between unicorn-focused and unicorn-friendly anyway, both just mean girls that don't collab with males.

>>72535232
At most this board got like, what? 8k? during Rushia yab.
that's literally nothing.

>>72535390
half of those are just dramafags that never watch vtubers

>>72534906
I watched so much Gura fanart every day for more than 3 years that I'm kinda wanting to try drawing now

>>72535159
was Luca really the runt of Luiem?

>>72535390
8,000 people is fucking huge, anon
And that's assuming an INSANELY LOW poster to lurker ratio

>>72535219
I'm talking about vtuber sphere as a whole anon.
Even in Holo the ratio between known male collabers and unicorn-friendly girls is 1:5
Not exactly a landslide

https://files.catbox.moe/kfz43t.png

>>72534448
I'll give him some points for trying to bump up the 42 % higher, but he sure is retarded.

>>72535494
1:5 is a landslide...

>>72535443
So in actuality the number is even lower, any sane and competent person would never take anything this board says seriously unless you're nijiEN members

>>72534448
Damn Luca is fucking based? If only he wasnt such a sexpest

>>72535530
Aren't those.... too big?

I look forward to see what kinda counter rrat they will try to pull this time.

>>72535589
He literally bullied his coworker, sister
Family my ass

>>72535457
Nah, he 100% was below Vox and Mysta at their height but he should have been #3 EXCEPT FOR the fact that Shu would stream like 4-5 times some months and have super buffed streams.

Thats probably the point he is making when they are enphizing "IN FEBUARY"

>>72534062
mori hates the idol thing but at least she is not being retarded anymore to annoy us
a little bit too late since she lost all her numbers but still a win

>>72535637
She uses a chest binder

>>72535701
Just because he is in Nijisanji doesnt mean im gonna pretend to be pro trans. Besides you call me a sister but in reality who the fuck is gonna be mad at that? Yeah the actual fucking sisters, their community is full of LGBT twitter trannies.

>>72535701
Check the dates, that's from before he was in Niji

>>72532842
She ain't no angel then.

>>72535494
The vtuber sphere as a whole is dogshit and full of self-sabotaging retards. There's almost zero reason for most female vtubers to do male collabs other than personal motives, it certainly doesn't do a thing for their audience and usually just leads to controversy.
They aren't doing it as a content strategy, they're doing it because of other urges or because they lack empathy with and understanding of their audience and somehow think they'd want to watch that.
Nobody at the pinnacle of the industry does it except Suisei, and she mostly does it as musical collabs (and can face-tank it because her music is just that popular).
So sure, any new aspiring vtuber should go ahead and pick their role model, Gura/Marine/Miko etc or, IDK, that one cow titty vtuber who let the babinuku dude pretend to motorboat her on stream and never lived it down

>>72534618
Chu

Fuck it, i ain't reading 58 pages of this shit, tell me someone saved it and sent it to some dramafag.

I'm in the concert area
Gonna probably have to go dark but hopefully it'll work this time
I see a girl wearing IRyS' new hat near me tho, that's nice
The crowd is already penlighting

>>72535823
No true numberfag would ever say
>based
to any nijis, especially nijiEN males.
That alone is enough proof that you're a doxxsister.

>>72535904
I think one of them retweeted it

>>72535904
>Fuck it, i ain't reading 58 pages of this shit, tell me someone saved it and sent it to some dramafag.
already sent the link to the 2 drama discords

>>72534448
Anyone got that post with some transfag talking about how welcoming Niji is for their kind? Posts that didn't age well again.

>>72535950
False did

>>72536005
Which one was that? The one pretending to be "professional" or the other one?

>>72535867
>personal motives
>It circled back to anon cuckold fantasies once again
Look, I don't watch males either but generalizing it as "personal motives" really outs you as an incel anon.
Also, FBK back in her glory days collabed with homos, it's not just Suisei

>>72536058
none of them are "professional" towards nijisanji
fuck around and find out

FBK if she lift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E5iYBdaUbs
Good views

>>72535833
Don't ruin my rrat faggot.

>>72536087
Did I say anything about romantic relationships? You're projecting, anon-chama.
Personal motives might include things like professional connections. There's actually multiple examples with voice actors, for example.

>>72536211
Oh come on, professional connection is a given in the showbiz anon, every chuubas want it.
Don't play coy with me I know what you're insinuating there.

>>72535939
OK Tranny

Why are you guys so mean towards nijisanji en livers?

>>72535936
Time to score

>>72536329
Because they don't like cunny.

>>72536315
Hello there Luca, enjoy the rest of the daybefore the woke mob descend upon you

>>72536329
They deserve it

>>72536302
Professional connections are important. Having VAs show up on your streams as "content" isn't how pros make them. Did Pippa or Lia or whoever else did those VA collabs end up in Funimation anime? No. Because the VAs grooming them didn't even really want or have the ability to give them an in to the industry anyway.

>>72535936
Enjoy the show anon

>>72535002
>extra roll distance
Can be replaced with good enough speed stat
What is really good on Botan is Kobo coat (ranged attacks don't disrupt your charged attacks) and Kroni clock (quick charge). Those items alongside Earphones allowed me to beat hard mode despite my mediocre skill.

>>72535159
>wouldn't have had a problem with this if he'd been in Shu's place
>but because he wasn't it's suddenly a problem that all of Luxiem wasn't invited together
lmao

>>72536329
Generational blood feud that was inherited from their ancestors (NijiJP) and then exacerbated by their own actions.

>>72535936
Did the meet and greet already happen or the concert first

Huh apparently according the the vtuber discords which is the refuge of a ton of niji fans after a number of their fancords collapsed the informant the hag was talking about might be either Aia, Maria or Finana (through a 3rd party)

>>72534618
chuchupero

>>72535711
Didnt Shu get more sc than Luca?

>>72536440
Anon, you're saying male collabers do it for "personal motives". I'm merely pointing out that connections are a given in this industry, that's hardly a personal motive to me.

>>72536531
Probably Aia. Maria has literally off collabed with him it'd be fucking weird for her to have issue with him

>>72536531
>Aia, Maria or Finana
It's finana she likes discords and stuff

>>72536401
Sure thing bud, we hate twitter trannies here. Thats the majority of NijiEN and HomoEN fanbase, might you be part of it which is why you are defending them so much?

>>72536602
It helps that Shu can speak japanese and often collabs with nijiJP.

>>72536602
Luca's #1 viewership back then was US while Shu's was Japan, that's why he got picked over him.

whats going on

>>72536602
No he was one of the top 3 IIRC, it dried up though

>>72536531
Isn't Finana the one who leaked a lot of shit to her discord groupies

>>72536678
Go on Luca, keep posting holomem pic buddy.
I know we're getting in your skin, you outright said so to your ex.

>>72536618
You're being incredibly obtuse and just trying to distract from my original point with your cuckposting. The retarded "connections" collabs with VAs were a "personal motive" because it had nothing to do with good content for the vtuber persona and didn't help their channels.

The long and short of it is, top tier vtubers generally don't do on-stream male collabs. It's a career limiting move. Do you actually disagree with this?

>>72536643
>Maria has literally off collabed with him it'd be fucking weird for her to have issue with him
I mean Selen off collabed with Elira, Millie and Enna

>>72535936
Just in case the IRyS girl is femanon and reading this. Anon seems like an upstanding guy. So why not hang out with him a bit and tour the con together?

>>72536698
You are the one who should tell us

>>72536698
you see that fembuddy on your left? make a move bro. i believe.

>>72536698
>karaoke
wtf that is a concert
t. nijisanji

>>72536752
alright anon now you pivoted to Luca, you can have the conversation. All i said was Luca was based for Shitting on trannies, i still believe so you can go on whatever the fuck you are trying to make this coversation to.

>>72535904
You really believe something as juicy wouldn't be in their discords 5 minutes after being posted?

>>72536678
>>72536752
Shut up both of you are you trying to summon another trany to post here and then the whole board laughing at us again

>>72536775
Okay, let's take your words at it and says that male-collabers in your example are in it for their personal motives, in this case VA connection.
But that doesn't explain other cases, take FBK for example.
What personal motive does FBK seek from collabing with chuubas with less connection than her?

>>72536860
>>72536842
>>72536870
just got what it was

>>72536698
Ask the 2 fembuds infront of you if they like Cunny too.

>>72536969
grim

>>72536885
>Luca was based
Oh NOW it's in past tense huh?
You don't think he is based no more anon?

>>72537013

>>72536969
GRIM

>>72536329
There is rentry full of reasons floating around

>>72536970
>fembuds
>implying

>>72536602
Shu has always been the most popular with japanese sisters

i didn't even know anime boston is today and it's literally 20 minutes away from me
how much are tickets again?

>>72534304
>>72534416
this applies weirdly well to Mori, since after checking her ego she started following advice that either came from containment breakers like the essayposting pollack or the brit that literally has Anonymous in his name, or which was a matter of discussion in her split (her shift back to doing pre-scheduled member streams to ensure delivering a certain output of them was discussed like a week before she changed her policy and since then her gift member retention became insane)

>>72537174
and her numbers are still shit

>>72536958
I said
>almost zero
in my original post, re-read it. FBK had professional motives in this case, being Cover company woman numero uno, congrats you've found one of the very small exceptions. What does that have to do with advice for small indie vtubers (the original topic of discussion here, kek).

>>72537044
eslchama, please look up the grammar of "indirect speech".

>>72534413
only the best for our thread

>>72537044
If tomorrow he goes and shits on Twitter trannies and Uki ill call him based. Thats all there is too it retard.

>>72535716
>mori hates the idol thing
Mori loves the idea of idols, what she hated was what she thought to be the reality of it (aka. she assumed it was all manufactured positivity and fake imagery pushed by suits)

>>72537341
I'm saying that this board is a bad place to glean a helpful advice/strategy to help chuubas find their niche. Case in point >>72534491

>indies
unironically limiting their connection to only girls won't help their growth, look at most JP indies. Most of them at least the biggest of them find their niche thru FPS, ergo male collabs.

>>72537228
her CCV is on the lower end but she's still growing fairly steadily in subs, has good view growth, her position on streaming platforms is solid and it seems her membership core is steadily growing
all in all a better situation where she mostly had drama fueled CCV going for her

>>72537448
then why is she still fake as fuck in many aspects towards her fans
its been years and many times she defaults to her defensive presentation to this day and is never fully sincere

>>72537228
It's easier to lose audience than it is to regain them. I mean Towa had to go at it for years before she got herself a big break in the Holobox.

>>72535936
THIS TIME FOR SURE

>>72537412
>any reason at all to call him based
Sure sister.

Why did Nanora want a moon stage anyway

>>72537644
>Fake
You don't watch Mori faggot, fuck off.

>>72537712
Its an ode to her original oshi moonman
luna=moon

>>72537644
I thought we're discussing seriously, not getting into schizo shit

>>72537712
Anon?

>>72537764
>Morischizo
>not being schizo
Anon...

>>72537597
>Most of them at least the biggest of them find their niche thru FPS, ergo male collabs
I'm curious, who?

>>72537712
She is making fun of Americans believing in moon landing.

>>72537644
Mori acts and pretends now. She still doesn't like it and prefer something else. But it works if she puts on a mask and the atmosphere got better.
That's where we are now

>>72537830
Karubi, Nana Kagura mama, that Ame sister that I somehow forgot what's her name

>>72537652
I'm probably in the category that should give Mori a chance again soon, but after 2.0 I just don't feel a need to go out of my way to watch her.

Kronii might've won me back over with the enthusiasm she showed surrounding FES and her interactions with Promise, I just wish she'd get back to streaming again so I can try watching her again some time.

>>72537947
but they are not big though? miko and pekora alone shits on their numbers

>>72537982
It's relative retard

>>72537982
>Karubi
>not big
Retard-chama...
Also, comparing indies number to holo first army is dumb.

>>72537644
That just boils down to a fundamental difference of culture between Japan and westerners (especially Americans). Mori is definitely acting more inline with what Hololive is nowadays, but she is still an American in an overwhelmingly Japanese group. The only really egregiously bad thing that she has going on nowadays is the teacher voice that makes her feel like she is fake and doesn't fit in in the environment, but you can't really find fault with that. Spending years teaching will do that to a motherfucker.

>>72537947
Ah yes, "karubi" (who?) and two vtubers you can't even remember the name of, seems like excellent choices to pattern your career after

>>72537817
Is everyone that acknowledges Calli's past Mori schizo?

>>72538039
>says they are big
>but dont compare them to holos

>>72538047
I sometimes forget that more often than not I'm talking to an enthusiast in this thread.

>>72537982
i know we're in the numbers thread but even you shouldn't be so retarded as to say something equivalent to "big artist? but michael jackson beats him x100 times over!"

>>72538083
No, but calling current Mori
>fake
is surefire way to outs you as one.

>>72538039
>Also, comparing indies number to holo first army is dumb.
Why is that dumb? Indies dominate the fleshstreaming scene so it should be possible for indie vtubers to dominate this scene as well

>>72538129
if michael jackson shits on them x100 over then they arent big artists anon

>>72538129
Michael Jackson? But The Beatles shit on him all day, clearly Michael Jackson was not really that big.

Ok so who was dating other than Mysta and Mika?

>>72538083
your reply is a non sequitur, the post had nothing to do with that but commenting on some observed "insincerity" of current Mori and projecting dislike of idols onto her (which is supported by nothing substantial)

>>72538083
Anon? Deadbeats oshi Mori and an oshi can do nothing wrong.

>>72538103
>Big indies
Is comparing then to other indies
If it was comparing them to holos it would be
>Big vtubers

>>72538103
Oh some of them are comparable to holos, but first army?
Nigga you're retarded.

>>72538188
>Indies dominate the fleshstreaming scene
never mind, you both are retarded.

>>72538224
What?

>>72538224
Pomu and Rosemi

>>72538168
Fake is strong but she definitely feels the need to conform now.

>>72538224
reimu vox
fulgur millie
ren maria
yugo sonny

>>72538246
another non sequitur, please try to address what the reply chain was actually discussing if you want to be taken seriously

>>72534062
Mori may be currently the most idol-like EN, until at least FWMC get their 3D

>>72538300
And Kiara

>>72536329
Do your reps by lurking a thousand years and maybe you'll understand.

>>72538293
The part of the latest Luca loredump includes a line about how there were multiple NijiEN livers who dated one another at different points, and that Luca wouldn't stop complaining to her about it.

>>72538309
>yugo sonny
roru nice one

>>72538224
I don't think it's about Mysta/Mika as they have not broken up yet from the looks of it.
So this is probably about Kyo/Enna and Fulgur/Millie

All those pebbles botting bijou just for her to flop once again.....

>>72538046
>the teacher voice that makes her feel like she is fake
that's kinda her "normal" voice in a way, she wants to make people understand (in the literal sense) what's she is saying but she also uses it to do her fake thing
there are moments when she talks fr and she sounds very different as if she is talking to her friends, but she doesnt do that often

I just want to point out that anon's bullshit:
> (aka. she assumed it was all manufactured positivity and fake imagery pushed by suits)
that if was the case, it would imply she is a hypocrite

>>72536969
lol who?

>>72538436
sad attempt at deflection senpai

This is like a comedy routine

>>72538436
Where is migo? She used to be #2 right behind Peko but she been absent a few times now

Yeah that doc looks spicy but I got a few pages in before I remembered I actually don't give a shit about NijiEN, including its yabs. I'm sure the dramafags will have week long field day with it though

>>72538375
Literally high-school shit

>Hating Mori unironically in 2024

Is the shiori group watchalong really the only EN stream today?

I wonder if Fuwamoco, just to say they did, would get into one of those capsule hotels for a night.
Kinda like pic related, though I think there are different types, some with consoles somehow.

>>72538109
Ahh, I googled her, a twitch indie with a nachoneko guraface. Pretty decent numbers, I'll grant, although they're >twitch numbers so meh.
So yeah, sure, if a small indie wants to be a valorant streamer, sure you'll have to do male collabs I guess. Go ahead and do that if you want. Otherwise, nomales is wise advice.

>>72538560
>he didn't travel to Boston

>>72538533
her streams dont count as "gaming"

>a current niji organ is talking to dramafags ratting out Aster and Luca for harrassing other organs
Who is it bros?

>>72538513
T. Seething pebblecuck

He is so based.

>>72538581
She's the biggest indie today anon, calling her number
>decent
Is a sign of numberrot.
Might I suggest watching a couple of 1view to realign your compass?

>>72538577
Too small to fit both of them and a game console. The only entertainment that would be available to them would be their bodies.

>>72538664
Well, have you ever been near a pregnant woman without being a woman yourself? Shit's uncomfortable, even if it's a relative.

>>72538664
But pregnancy is based

>>72538632

>>72538632
>the grassroots campaign for the entire branch's reputation failed
>so the new tactic is to select a handful of specific livers that were kind of annoying coworkers and throw them to the wolves as the root of the branch's issues

Man, I love watching this thing unfold step by step.

>>72538581
Okay then, why don't we change our pov.
Do you know any indies that never collabed with males and what's her ccv looks like?

>>72538684
Her average is ~6k, and that's twitch numbers, is that seriously the biggest indie vtuber today? That doesn't sound right but I don't hang out in /lig/

>>72538664
>>72538520
Wait, is this new stuff or is it the same old shit being revisited?

>>72538632

>>72538778
/lig/ is for the EN space they wouldn't talk about JP indies anyway

>>72538635
Ennacuck

>>72538778
She's big enough to nab multiple sponsorships, the latest one was with Galleria I think?
There's only so much you can do to boost your popularity without hype machine like holo or niji anon, 6k average for indie might as well be 100k ccv average

>>72538816
https://x.com/RazielWarmonic/status/1773787213157077348?s=20
new google doc from Luka's "mommy"

>>72538816
It's new stuff supplemented by some of the shit she previously revealed. Livers dating each other is definitely a new one, as an example.

>>72538816
His "Groomer" aka the chick she been edating before he got into niji and was romacing Pomu as luca in MC, release a fucking book of crap after sisters called her out on not having reciepts.

I just watched the extended version of the Fellowship of the Ring for the first time.
I watch the theatrical cut with my family once a year when I lived at home, but man, I've missed out.

>>72538839
They sometimes talk about koreans, tho. Funny seeing their reaction when one of the big titty ones specified her pronouns.

>>72538635
kill yourself ennacuck aka botter

Glory to Luna-hime!

>>72538436
Ennacuck the bot nigger we are busy now

>>72538538
I've grown numb to Nijislop yabs due to how often they happen. Especially CN branch. That entire yab machine of a branch should just get axed already. Drama? More like an unwanted nuisance.

>>72538905
>Livers dating each other is a neew one.
Not in JP it aint. Also QDR? Im not gonna dive into that crap but i guess i missed when someone pulled it up from the docs?

>>72536329
>you guys
We're not even doing any work to shit on them anymore. Since like late 2022 the yabs just kept on coming and we just talk about it, which signal boosts the yabs because people can't keep themselves from snooping in on our threads (as if we have any power) and spread them on their own and 2024 has pretty much been open season on Niji since the SELENIUM SHOCK.

>>72538375
So Vox did fuck Reimu.
And then she fucked him
LOLOLOLOL

>>72533955
what concert is this?

>>72538313
>Mori hates the idol thing
Yes, else we wouldn't have to deal with her different drama arcs. The problem is her default is per se contra. Idols try not to escalate stuff, you want to give a happy and welcoming atmosphere without troublemaker.
Now she is acting and pretending to fit in, which is exactly what she should have done from the beginning and radiates fun when watching her, but please don't call everyone schizo just because they point out obvious behaviour.

>>72538836
>Scarle got forced to collab with her abuser because the company's image got hurt
>Scarle cried in a members only after that collab
Scarle...

>>72538995
>QDR
Quick Down Row?

>>72538543
Did you not notice how it only started a bit after that niji document got posted?

>>72538903
As always, just in case it gets deleted, someone else archived it.
https://web.archive.org/web/20240329210854/https://docs.google.com/document/d/11LCSDbKkquh4I2cJGp5Xk6QEVzERw8NbwqdCxLbSn5Q/preview

>>72538995

>>72538778
Lore dump
She WAS big, 15k+ average during the SF6 arc including many big name collabs (Korone, Kuzuha). Nowadays the fad is gone but she managed to convert her 15 mins of fame into relative mindshare by snagging some sponsors like Vaultroom and becoming Nacho's favorite daughter.
It's not Hololive big but it's very good for indie standards

>>72538954

>>72538972
yawn. Wake me up when they get merged or dissolved so I can dance over their remains.

>>72539111
Her number was decent before she got invited to VCR GTA, it literally quadrupled her number, especially during the second arc

>>72539078
Vox and Reimu and Mysta and Mika? who else?

>>72538939
>>72538886
Bijou lost lmfao

>>72539024
>Now she is acting and pretending to fit in
Schizo.

>>72539247
>Enna is not on the list
If Bijou lost, then Enna is obliterated

>>72539193
>dissolve
Riku will never abandon his cash cows dumb holokek

>>72539239
lol

>>72539323
Just don't bother with Morischizo anon, he's a lost cause.

>>72539078
>one side of the pair became exceedingly demanding and vicious
I bet it was Reimu, latin genes be like that. She definetly sabotaged Vox in a "SHOW ME YOU LOVE ME" moment

>>72539345
"Its" deflecting again lmfao
Mega buff games and she still can't beat a rat that streams for fun

>>72539410
That's the only one that made public drama from what I remember cause of the chink out.

>>72539360

>>72539345
For the love of God just fucking ignore this subhuman. It's like you fags want this thread to be a garbage bin of attention whore schizos

>>72539410
>Sticking your pen in company ink
A classic mistake, as old as time.
These whippersnappers waste the fuck out of these opportunities with these hormonal fuckups. Just get your bag and date someone quietly on the side who ideally doesn't even know you're a vtuber, retard.

>>72539500
Shush now cuck

>>72539410
>sabotage
Anon, Vox had zero reason to answer her call let alone invited her into the stream. that's not a sabotage that's walking into a dynamite factory with a torch on your hand.

>>72539507
Latina pussy too good, please understand

>>72539429
>a rat that streams for fun
>recently revealed more pitybait
lel, gotta respect her commitment to wring out her simps at least

Hololive

>>72539533
>Ennacuck calling anyone else a cuck
Roru
Rumao

>>72538533
>>72538631
the true reason is that she's only streamed 3 times for ~220k wh in that period.

>>72539024
once again, you're projecting things on her which she either vocally rejected (ironically in places that'd be most approving of putting down idol culture) or that don't line up with her actual behavior even when there's no need for her to pretend
maybe your problem is just language comprehension, since you use present tense ("Mori hates the idol thing") while referencing past behaviors

>>72539078

>>72539507
You don't realize that this is the norm for pretty much every area of the vtubing community excluding Hololive.

Many indies even get into this whole thing with the INTENT of dating (or at least pal-ing around with) other vtubers.

>>72539242
ren and some other female liver possibly maria

Fauna and Mori should do more one on one collabs with Advent members

>>72539598
Sub 200k views in four weeks lmfao

>>72539323
And there we are: Oshi can do no wrong.
You didn't even read.

>>72539630
>excluding hololive
lmao he doesn't know
and no I'm not talking about homos

>>72538995
>Not in JP
There is love storys in NijiJP?

>>72539713
Sorry, referring to EN specifically here.

look at this cutie, she's talking about kaijus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjhT3ILD8tw

>>72539078
>Luca seething because some of his genmates are dating
Luca is like /#/ the vtuber

>>72539401
>Morischizo
Okay cuckbeat. Eat you cannur pussy shit

>>72539669
IRyS and Doki are tens times wealthier than Enna.

>>72539664
Mori has something planned with Shiori supposedly
she addressed not doing a lot of 1-on-1s recently since she was super busy between Fes, the Suicide Squad thing and bday

>>72539716
>Kuzuha Rindou
>Axia Honhima
>Kanae hskw
And that's just a few of them

>>72539661
Maria probably got a train ran on her

Still want to gloat nijisis? Enjoy the downfall lol

>>72539558
Any excuse to seethe over success outside of blue dorito am i right Fellow holochud?

nijicucks...

/#/ - Schizo General