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>>19796115

>> No.19806850

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*

>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.19808633
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* ongoing streams right now *
The "VSPO schizo" seems to have a point here, VSPO girls absolutely overperforming at this slot

>> No.19808649

Anon, while I'm glad you made this one to avoid a bait OP, this was too early.

>> No.19808702

>>19808633
even scarier when theyre on Apex

>> No.19808775

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1501107493186928644

>> No.19808877

>>19808775
did they remove rushia?

>> No.19808910

/#/ is numbering

>> No.19808936

>>19808633
>Risu numbers

Vampire really is a buff huh.

>> No.19808949

>>19808649
not really, it was made when the old thread was five threads away from getting kicked off.

>> No.19808995

>>19808877
I don't think she was in it?

>> No.19809000

Bae's coming back and I just saw her original at 600k. Will it reach 1M in three weeks?

>> No.19809065

>>19808775
https://twitter.com/holostarstv/status/1501064446038659072?

>> No.19809067

>>19808877
>>19808995
Not sure if she was ever in it to begin with, checked it just now and she's not
Out of the 3rd gen only Noel and Marine are there anyway

>> No.19809071

>>19808949
Moreso the board was kinda slow with new threada since this managed to make its way to page 9 before it got bumped back up.

>> No.19809114

Fauna has streamed 8 days in a row and looking to make it 9.
Is she ok?

>> No.19809139

>>19809114
she seems motivated thanks to fungus

>> No.19809187
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Man, they really are promoting AZKi.

>> No.19809189

>>19809114
she wants that gold pot
it'll be another full week of getting over it

>> No.19809215

>>19809187
integrate her into the box

>> No.19809233

>>19809139
Failgur...

>> No.19809236

>>19808633
hey what site is this, I only use ikioi ranking since hiyoko died...

>> No.19809274

>>19809114
>>19809139
Isn't Fauna a legit Holofan?

>> No.19809303

>>19809236
Holy comachama...
It's vrabi.ml, this should be the Live tab.

>> No.19809334

https://youtu.be/dQKei2mtbOY

Rat is back.

>> No.19809335

>>19809274
She's a Gura and Mori fan iirc.

>> No.19809337

Hololive's candidate for gold tonight?

>> No.19809363

Is it a good or bad outlook for Anycolor and their investors if Vox kept doing his shit? I assume Riku would only show the growth of his SC and sub counts, not the content he does. Investors would only asks surface level questions like, what does he do to accumulate that money? Riku would then reply, a series of games like Runescape, Sims, ASMR etc.

>> No.19809374

>>19809335
She also watched Noel. Maybe that leak did fire something inside her.

>> No.19809401

>>19809274
Selen is also a gura fan, Lazulight probably like HoloJP.

>> No.19809405

>>19809335
She's a fan of all of Myth, with Gura being her oshi.

>> No.19809439

does anyone have that breakdown of Voxx's SCs again?

>> No.19809441

>>19809401
Did you not see the discord leaks? Nijiniggers are too busy sniffing their own assholes to be fans of other vtubers.

>> No.19809445

>>19809374
>Maybe that leak did fire something inside her.
I'm starting to dig this narrative. Maybe this is the push council needs to motivate them and make them less complacent.

>> No.19809459

>>19809363
the dude can literally burp into a mic and get thousands of dollars from cute chinese girls I doubt the investors give a shit unless he's doing something that can get him banned or arrested

>> No.19809476
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>Fucking Risu is getting double the viewership that some of the NijiEN girls got today
Based treerat

>> No.19809479

>>19809363
So long as there is no risk of "virtual hostess club ending up interacting with IRL customers" situation, they won't care.
The only way this would become an issue is if he went too far on stream ( he won't) and it ended up going viral in EN/JP. Since his primary audience is Zhang, I don't see that happening any the soon.

>> No.19809505

>>19809363
The will not mention any individual streamers name. They will combine the Sc of everyone and show how successful the En branch is.

>> No.19809534

>>19809363
Why do people think investors are idiots? They generally do their research before putting their own money on the line. If Vox making a few hundred grand from SEA fujos actually affects the company’s bottom line that’s a strike against them, not a positive. Also good luck getting mainstream advertisers on board with his content.

>> No.19809598

>>19809445
Kronii with a buff schedule, Mumei and Bae come back today.

>> No.19809628

>>19809401
Didn't expect Selen to be a Gura fan. I always assumed that if Selen were to like anyone in Myth, it would be Ame

>> No.19809634

>>19809598
sanner..

>> No.19809706

>>19809628
Her PL likes Gura's stuffs

>> No.19809712

>>19809363
Investors don't care about SC, they care about analytics.

>> No.19809750

>>19809445
Mumei seemss like the person who would take that shit seriously.

>> No.19809794

>>19809459
No the more pertinent questions are: what risks are associated with a primarily Chinese fanbase? Surely nothing could go wrong there! What are his prospects for growth? What are the overall prospects for growth in this sector ie can more talents replicate his success? How many talents are earning like this? If it’s one or two and they quit/get sick/have a yab who can fill their role? Is there competition on the horizon? What are his prospects for sponsorships and other major corporate collaborations? The answer to most of those is somewhat iffy

>> No.19809810

>>19809634
What If she comes back with a full schedule.

>> No.19809812

>>19809634
She is still busy drawing Arknight shit afaik

>> No.19809832

>>19809334
Not even a 500k endurance stream? Sigh.

>> No.19809878

>>19809812
In the past illustrating for AK and other high dollar gachas was a career goal for many illustrators, one of the biggest best paying contracts you could land. Ironically now being a Holomama/papa might be even more coveted

>> No.19809879

This 3rd Fes is gonna make Yagoo the richest man in the vtuber world.

>> No.19809881

>>19809405
Her oshi is Noel anon.

>> No.19809893

>>19809832
Why would she use two of her buff on one stream?

>> No.19809924

>>19809476
I hope she moves up her timeslot more often. It's nice to catch her live and not have to watch a vod.

>> No.19809934

>>19809879
Who has that ludicrous price sheet with the signed Suisei going for 2k? There’s some pent up demand here. If they land it Holofes will be a money printer. Makes you wonder what the talent cuts are

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>>19809934

>> No.19809960

>>19809750
yeah, she seems like the vindictive type

>> No.19810000

>>19809879
it would be funny if Yagoo still earns less than the girls kek

>> No.19810003
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>>19809215
You know what to do when that time comes, Pekora.

>> No.19810014

>>19809881
You can have multiple oshis. Gura is her Myth oshi and Noel is her JP oshi

>> No.19810025

>>19809879
How much money did fes1/2 and bloom make? Did he use all the money he got from them?

>> No.19810037

>>19809934
>>19809949
The signed Rushia card that they forgot to take out in some of the pack are gonna go for thousand

>> No.19810054

Ina with a three elden rings stream in a row. Well someone pissed them off

>> No.19810112

>>19809960
Can't wait for her to stream unarchived karaoke streams over every single nijien event

>> No.19810114

>>19810014
you fucking whore.
just call yourself a DD if you want to have multiple oshis

>> No.19810129

What if Fulgur indirectly causes the fall of NijiEN by motivating HoloEN even more? That would be like funny karma.

>> No.19810133

>>19810054
nah she always wants to do that, albeit having the same end-results.

>> No.19810160
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>>19809949
EMPRESS, I KNEEL!

>> No.19810231

>>19810025
The talent cut must be pretty huge if both of those didn't make him richer than Coco.

>> No.19810244

I miss Ayame... Did she stream in February?

>> No.19810275

>>19810054
Failgur...

>> No.19810288

>>19809628
She's not, she did one simple chibi gif of gura with a gun, didn't get much traction them posted on hololive reddit(4k+ upvotes)
and got involved/informed about Gura emotes being traced and exposing the artist
Selen was a fan of Bora

>> No.19810290

>>19810129
Nah different audience, and the girl even lose to ID today.

>> No.19810340

>>19808633
>risu numbers
i know is a buff game but ...
i kneel

>> No.19810341

>>19810244
https://youtu.be/GVwMDJeMLpc
https://youtu.be/mJxiSWb2q1M

Yeah, twice

>> No.19810384

>>19809187
>Azki got promoted with the cunnys
Damn this sneaky hag!

>> No.19810405

>>19810000
he does, he's a salaried employee and I very much doubt he takes home more than the low five figures a month.

>> No.19810421

>>19810114
oshi is not synonymous with waifu, you can have more than one

>> No.19810423

Nene's return tonight right? Gold?

>> No.19810462

>>19809187
>>19809215
>>19810384
AZKi should team up with Lap to counter Gura/Sora

>> No.19810472

>>19810341
>twice
WTF did her bf need more money? Or was it Yakuza?

>> No.19810490

>>19809534
There's always sponsors like Raid that'd would just throw the offer at anyone. But yeah, the bigger and mainstream sponsors would prefer the family friendly holo

>> No.19810531

Why doesn't Hololive put Luxiem or Vox into Weiss Schwarz? Are they discriminating against the guys?

>> No.19810542

>>19810531
Anon?

>> No.19810556

>>19810490
What part of Luxiem is that is not family-friendly? Kids need to learn about sex anyway to get them started young.

>> No.19810557

>>19810531
Are you alright anon?

>> No.19810558

>>19810531
?????

>> No.19810564

>>19810244
>>19810341
>>19810472
https://youtu.be/zmEqLY0Vy_M
https://youtu.be/MiktlqTanck
She streamed four times. One of them a sponsored stream that probably payed a shit ton.

>> No.19810565

>>19809363
Mosf of their sponsors are chinkshit anyway

>> No.19810575

>>19810462
Nah, she love cunny as long they are under 18

>> No.19810610

>>19810564
How about shion? Havent heard anything from her this year

>> No.19810628

>>19810531
Can you lurk more before baiting? You’re giving nijiniggers an even worse name

>> No.19810660

>>19810531
I think you mean Wixoss. The only TCGs Nijinsaji has collabed with are Wixoss and Duel Masters (but only for their mobile game)

>> No.19810661

>>19810610
https://youtu.be/pUwiOJ2eAaU
https://youtu.be/d49_lf66mU0

She came back for Pokemon and I think a member stream.

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>>19810610

>> No.19810698

>>19810531
make up your mind fungus

>> No.19810710

>>19810690
Well, I guess we'll see her again when Scarlet/Violet drops

>> No.19810718

>>19810423
probably 20k max
her yab is too weak nobody gives a fuck about it

>> No.19810742

>>19810423
No, she will get a lot of SCs

>> No.19810764

>>19810490
I suspect Vox’s demo would absolutely suck for Raid. Do you think chink fujos spend a lot on that type of game? Now some female oriented gacha maybe. Cookie Kingdom maybe?

>> No.19810805

>>19810610
>>19810661
>>19810690
She also have a few post in her 10k tier fanbox

>> No.19810885

>>19810764
https://youtu.be/r9jj2XNMdDw
Don't think they will be working with Nijisanji again.

>> No.19810933

>>19810556
the absolute state of nijicope

>> No.19810980

Speaking of sponsors, have luxiem receive any sponsored stream or something like that?

>> No.19810993

>>19810405
He'll be a significant shareholder too.

>> No.19811025

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1501122644157992960

Gatchaman will have Stars merch

>> No.19811058

>>19810980
They're way too new to attract sponsors. Give it a few months

>> No.19811140

>>19809794
Wtf are you on schizo? NijiJP has been in bed with the Chinese market for a while now and they're doing fine.

>> No.19811170

>>19811058
It's been 4 months anon, even NijiEN females got sponsors before their 4 months.

>> No.19811217

>>19811025
Isn't he an indie?

>> No.19811225

>>19811058
Who are they going to shill too? As outsiders they can't really sell stuff in the Chinese market and that is 90% of their fanbase.

>> No.19811245

>>19809479
>So long as there is no risk of "virtual hostess club ending up interacting with IRL customers"
They're fucked

>> No.19811251

>>19811217
Yes, and?

>> No.19811306

>>19811025
>>19811217
GATCHMAN CONFIRMED FOR HONORARY HOLO!

> the rrats were true!

>> No.19811307

>>19811225
Chink Gacha games, probably

>> No.19811368
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>>19811025

>> No.19811400

So Sonny is streaming well outside of NA time so the zhangs an watch and his viewership is still shit tier.

>> No.19811410

>>19811400
Why did noctyx flop?

>> No.19811419

>>19811400
brisket design sucks

>> No.19811468

>>19811410
Blame Fungus

>> No.19811488

Man, Noctyx today suck ass in viewership

>> No.19811491

>>19811306
https://youtu.be/OE5STBQUP6U
always has been. gatchman collabed with Sora one month after the Taiwan yab. he's a chad

>> No.19811518

Titty knight 12k.

>> No.19811525

>>19811468
Fungus causes Watamage to level up and strike his wave. Riku will have to use stronger magic to defeat her.

Who will he sacrifice to the dark gods next?

>> No.19811561

>>19811525
More COVID for the talent.

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>Bae coming back from her break early
>Mumei coming back
>Fauna streaming everyday
>Kronii actually playing buff content
Welp, Pomu said it was a war so I guess they are getting a war.

>> No.19811646

>>19811603
Sana...

>> No.19811679

>>19811603
if this still doesn't pressure sana then idk what will

>> No.19811699

>>19811603
Do you think Funus is reading this right now and may have realized he fucked up?

>> No.19811761

>>19811603
We also don't actually know what they will do for the Expo.

>> No.19811772

>>19811699
I think you're acting like some weird chuuni retard.

>> No.19811831

>>19811772
I know Fungus, it must have sucked realizing your own mistake.

>> No.19811883

>>19811831
It was petras fuck up.

>> No.19811886

numbafags lend me thine brains!

The twitch subathons are ending (at least one did) and I was wondering; what do they get out of it?
Does twitch give them their respective cut from the numbers of subs they made times the price of a sub in the currency it was bought? Or do they take the chuubas currency and multiply the numbers of subs with that?
Asking because I pay less euro-dollars than dollars for a sub.

>> No.19811890

>Noel 14K GET

>> No.19811910

Mito Covid?
https://twitter.com/MitoTsukino/status/1501108530748739586

>> No.19811929

>>19811886
Free money.

>> No.19811957

>>19811525
>>19811561
>>19811910
Kek. Looks like I was correct.

>> No.19811964

>>19811910
I can't believe Kanata infiltrated Niji HQ and spit in Mito water

>> No.19811984

>>19811964
kek

>> No.19811987

>>19811964
all out war indeed

>> No.19811990

>>19811646
>>19811679
Too busy with her non-Holo stuff and Cover has her working on something.

>> No.19811995

>>19811886
Just money. They may get more emote slots with more subscribers.

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>>19811910

>> No.19812037
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>>19811603
the die is cast, ave mumei

>> No.19812041

>>19811990
Hiring a streamer and asking them to draw instead of stream still sounds like a really dumb business decision

>> No.19812087

>>19811603
>>19811699
They might be able to beat Noctyx (depends on whether they stay loyal to EN market), but Mysta and Vox, possibly Luca will still fuck them up anyway, at least in term of SC if nothing else. You don't suddenly get paypigs out of nowhere just by "returning".

>> No.19812093

Potential gold for Pekor today? She's stuck at the old lady butterfly boss fight, but she should be able to get past through her in an hour or two.

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>>19811603

>> No.19812100

>>19812041
Maybe, though she could have told them no. She's still being more productive than Ayame at least.

>> No.19812129

>>19812096
Man, what if Yagoo was an alter all along, what would we do?

>> No.19812130

>>19812093
>Botan Elden Ring
>Nene return stream karaoke
hard to say, what's going on in niji's camp tonight?

>> No.19812152

>>19811603
if Sana comes back this week also it will be all over

>> No.19812193

>>19811140
Look you child there’s risk associated with engaging with China which is also not a monolith. If tensions flare with Taiwan or Japan, if there’s a yab and the chinks turn Niji, etc. Its not binary you asses the risks and incorporate it as part of your assessment. Even if it’s a small risk if chinks make half your revenue you have to account for it. Obviously

>> No.19812215

>>19812087
They won't be able to compete with SCs, but they don't really have to. Kronii and Mumei already get better views than all of them and Council is more palatable to sponsors than any of the ones doing fujobaiting.

>> No.19812245

>>19811929
>>19811995
Well, yes they get money. but how much per sub? Just what the gifter/subber paid in their currency or what it would have cost in the streamers currency?

>> No.19812264

>>19812087
If there's anything that we've learned from merch anon, SC is but a tip of the iceberg for revenue. And I'm being a complete hypocrite in saying this too since I was one of those who made fun of nijimerch and called it cope back when Coco was SC queen because none of us had any idea just how much money you could get from 1 merch run. /#/ really opened a lot of people's eyes to how much this people actually make and why someone like Aqua or Kuzuha would prioritize their idol reps over streaming and milking SC.

>> No.19812266

>>19812087
My favorite part of merch anons charts is it verified what a lot do people long suspected: SC are nice for engagement but there’s a reasons a lot of Holos just don’t give a shit. The cuts suck and it’s not enough money to matter for the big hitters at least.

>> No.19812282

>>19812041
>a really dumb business decision
The really terrifying thing is that Sana may already have been their best choice among the drama queens, yab machines, and lazy whores that is EN.

>> No.19812321

>>19812245
50% i think if you are twitch affiliate.

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>>19812037
“The courage of a soldier is heightened by his knowledge of his profession,”

Fungus was too new, he didn't have the knowledge.

>> No.19812362

>>19812282
Just a selfish wish of mine but I wish Nina (forma de indie) had applied. Maybe I'm letting my bias cloud my judgement but I've never been as sure of an indie making it into Holo if she applied as I am with her.

>> No.19812367

>>19812266
Coco already said that her SC is only 20-30% of her income and she was the number 1 superchatted in the world. SC is really peanuts.

>> No.19812385

>>19812282
I really don’t get it. Ina’s streaming career seems to have boosted her illustrator career to the very top of the industry and made her mad money to boot. Even if Sana wants to focus on illustration even two 1-2 streams a week where she doodles would at least maintain her fanbase and boost her illustrator career. It makes no sense at all. At least engage in twitter. Honestly it looks unprofessional

>> No.19812428

>>19812367
SC is important, if it's the only source of money you get

>> No.19812447

>>19812264
We did get a glimpse back then with Coco's last birthday and restock goods.
>>/jp/thread/S35278386#p35280285
$865,690 in a day
Given current merch trends I think it safe to say that it doubled the sales by the end of the sales period.

>> No.19812455

https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1501135705560748032?t=CzNjaJY6N-pZ5Pxl8Rytqw&s=19

Bootleg Merch was caught.

>> No.19812462

>>19811161
kek

>> No.19812513

>>19812455
Damn it's on television as well

>> No.19812519

Um is this the new funnel schedule from holo fantasy? Well not really funnel but,

>> No.19812551

LIST OF UNDENIABLE AND PROVEN FACTS:
*FRAMED IN GOLD*
>>Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP
>>Council didn't do as well Luxiem
>>Holo management were mad about Nijis opening applications again so fast

*CLASSIC*
>quality
>chemistry
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales (without evidence)
>fortune telling
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>foreign audience bad, local Nips good
>YouTube Japan
>flexible creative freedom
>Google trends
>Holobubble is bursting
>Niji is more popular than Holo in Japan
>Niji is mainstream in Japan, which is more important than Holo's international dominance
>Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Cover uses bots
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate

*NUMBERS*
>percentage
>ratio
>volume
>quality numbers
>combined peak CCV
>combined peak CCV from different times
>dead cat bounce
>fake numbers
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers
>VOD views don't count
>views don't matter
>deadsubs doesn't matter, what matters is dedication
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad
>holotrash cant get 200k ccv stream without graduation
>-43%

*IT DOESN'T COUNT*
>tournaments don't count
>outfit reveals don't count
>relays don't count
>Koshien is not an event
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Square Enix doesn't count
>Bookwalker doesn't count
>Pokemon doesn't count
>gacha rolling streams doesn't count
>gen 3 shouldn't count so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos

*MERCH AND SPONSORS*
>number of merch determines popularity, not any other metric
>Niji shilling makes games like Genshin successful in Japan
>sponsorships are retarded
>Holo's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>20 Holo merch for fake scarcity
>>Bushiroad associating with Holo is toxic for their growth as it was making them lose the Chinese market in the long run

*OTHERS*
>stop picking on midgets! (they started the fight themselves)
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>trailers are ads
>playing the victim
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>most vtubers are Niji-like and Niji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Holo invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Niji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>honorary Niji
>Niji have morals
>moral victory
>rightful sovereignty
>five Mystas
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Holocope list
>Holo is only popular because of chink clippers
>Niji has a better following than Holo in the west
>*Selen delusion here*
>there are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Niji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>only the west speaks english
>Twitter interactions
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher
>Nijifans tend to interact with the streams "properly"
>Niji keeps failing but that's okay because they are rich
>having shit mics pre-debut is tradition
>Cover paid off the government to come down hard on their rivals
>Management forced Mori to unfollow Nijis
>at least Vox whores himself to his fans
>indies will more likely go to NijiEN first, stay indie second and then choose HoloEN as their last resort
>If they make fun of you, you win

>> No.19812576

huh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbmUs-eFjrA

>> No.19812596

>>19812385
>unprofessional
And the worst case scenario is that the rest were even worse than Sana. Ina’s nepotism hire might have been a last ditch effort by the hiring team to get someone who wasn’t a fuckup. Like they knew they could survive EN Ayame but not an EN Mikeneko, EN Tama/Sio, or VShojo wannabe.

>> No.19812606

>>19812447
Exactly. And this isn't counting other outside sources of revenue too. HoloFes is going to make so much bank that as a numberfag, I seriously can't wait to see Covers financial report next year.

>> No.19812614

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbmUs-eFjrA

Has Gura ever stream at this hour? Seems completely out of nowhere, Gura+rhythm game will be pretty strong too

>> No.19812622

>>19812551
>the word NIJICOEP is not even there anymore
Kys

>> No.19812639

>>19812576
odd slot for gura

>> No.19812653

>>19812576
Gura wtf. I was about to go to sleep.
Maybe she fucked up the am/pm.

>> No.19812656

>Nene 10k
What a weak drama

>> No.19812664

>>19812576
>>19812614
Fulgur look at what you've done

>> No.19812672

>>19812576
>>19812614
>>19812639
>>19812653
Aside from JP collabs / events I think the last time she did this was her yoga stream? More than a year ago.

>> No.19812680

>>19812614
>Goomba streaming on JP primetime

>> No.19812687

>>19812622
Holocope, should add to the list

>> No.19812726

>>19812576
>>19812614
Wow, that's an interesting timeslot. But honestly great for numberfagging, it's a buff stream gamewise so it'll be a good test of how well Gura can perform so far removed from NA primetime.

>> No.19812732

>>19812687
>ESL shitposter

>> No.19812746

>>19812726
And see how JP bros will choose because it's a damn packed timeslot.

>> No.19812751

>>19812576
Given the odd time any chance she's in Japan?

>> No.19812761

Gura is now powered by pure idol energy and vengeance.

>> No.19812774

>>19812653
She tweeted it too, so unless she fucks up for both it's unlikely

>> No.19812776

>>19812732
>projecting holofaggot

>> No.19812783

>>19812576
is it a shill?
they usually pick JP prime time for shilling

>> No.19812803

>>19812576
How is she awake at that time? Is she in JP?

>> No.19812820

Can we get a "Thanks Fulgur" for saving HoloEN?

>> No.19812828

>>19812614
Pekora has a stream 1 hour earlier before this

>> No.19812831
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>>19812726
>buff stream

>> No.19812838

>>19812783
It doesn't seem to have the usual sponsored shit on it.

>>19812751
>>19812803
Not sure but entirely possible

>> No.19812839

>>19812783
no mention in the description

>> No.19812885

>>19812828
Did I miss something but will that Pekora's stream be the only thing that could rival it to win overall gold? Current highest now is just 15k Noel's Elden Ring, there'll be a bunch of Elden Ring stream later but they're all overlapping too

>> No.19812895

Gura is in the Sega office.

>> No.19812907

>>19812576
Damn, Fungus pissed them off so much they are now moving in on zhang time. It really is war.

>> No.19812937

>>19812576
EN gold?

>> No.19812976

Gura really loves council and this of them as friends. Fungus really did fuck up.

>> No.19812987

>>19812885
Botan's Elden Ring has a better chance than Pekora, she fucking sucks at the game

>> No.19812986

>>19812907
Fungus what have you done...

>> No.19813044

Hope Gura promotes the hell out of her next doulingo stream.

>> No.19813051

>>19812885
Botan can rival too and she will be streaming same time as Gura so it will be interesting to see

>> No.19813055

what the fuck is going on tonight? why's Gura streaming during Japanese prime time instead of NA?

>> No.19813068

>>19812776
Anyone can read your posts and see you struggle with English. Try wracking your brain so you don't read like a legitimate retard. You should consider yourself lucky you even got a (You).

>> No.19813078

>>19812831
That was the only Project Diva stream to be below 20k in my defense. But revisitng her other rhythm game streams it does look like they haven't been acting as a buff for a while outside of the groove coaster sponsorship, guess my perception of her rhythm game streams are still stuck in 2020

>> No.19813101

>>19813055
gura is now japanese

>> No.19813129

>>19813078
Sadly most of them just aren't as fun as Muse Dash.

>> No.19813138

>>19813044
she should have done Duolingo instead of PD. unless there is another reason for it being PD

>> No.19813144

Shark in JP primetime is unusual enough to attract tourists and in a buff game. This might be today’s unexpected Gold

>> No.19813150

>>19813055
Asian women love Rhythm games

>> No.19813151

Is there any way that Gura might be in Japan?

>> No.19813158

Didn't expect a Gura stream. What is the number she has to beat for EN gold?

>> No.19813246

>>19813158
>EN gold
kys
15,483

>> No.19813247

>>19813151
How is she even going to stream in Japan without her usual setup?

>> No.19813261

>>19813158
15k of Luca

>> No.19813270

>>19813158
Goomba definitely getting the EN gold but idk if she will beat Pakora and Botan. Last time I saw Botan plays ER it hit 30K

>> No.19813272

>>19813247
cover's office ?

>> No.19813273

>>19813247
idk, there's a whole ass cover studio for streaming though

>> No.19813279

She might be in Europe, Kiara has been acting weird about her schedule recently beacuse she is planning to do something and has assured kfp that she is not leaving the country

>> No.19813280

>>19813151
don't get my hopes up
>>19813247
they have set ups in the office, la+ used them before

>> No.19813281

>>19813138
Maybe that's too much pandering or simply not a good idea to do guerilla doulingo.

>> No.19813282

>>19813247
She can stream from the cover office or a jp member's place.

>> No.19813289

>>19812726
But it’s totally out of the blue and most of audience has no idea she’s streaming. Maybe if she did it regularly but there was no build up or warning at all

>> No.19813298

>>19813247
In Hololive's office or a specialized booked room? Various JP holomem have mentioned streaming in the office for sponsor stream.

>> No.19813302

>>19813279
She is getting those dancing lessons.

>> No.19813305

>>19811603
AVE!

>> No.19813323

>>19813078
>>19813138
Her FNF stream got 30k viewers, I think it just depends on the rhythm game.

>> No.19813335

>>19813144
Maybe but her I’d guess the majority of her NA audience is literally asleep right now. Weird

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Jesas

>> No.19813363

>>19813282
>jp member's place.
You meant Mori /irys

>> No.19813377

>>19813282
> jp member's place
Mori or Irys are better choices. but Mori has Elden Ring so if she did shack up with another EN to stream it’ll be Irys. But the cover studio is more likely if she is in JP

>> No.19813392

She's using an old thumbnail too. Hmm...

>> No.19813403

>>19812455
Damn. Imagine being so big that your bootleg merch got featured on national news

>> No.19813407

>>19813323
FNF was more than just a rhythm game, it was FOTM (or at least near the end of the cycle of being FOTM when she streamed it). Though I do agree that the rhythm game itself matters. If by some miracle she ever got to stream Muse Dash again I'm almost certain she'd get 30k for it

>> No.19813422

>>19813363
Shion/okayu. Miko would kill a nigga for Same-chan.

>> No.19813467

>>19813335
She has massive JP, TW, and SEA audiences. As long as she hits an Asia Pacific timezone, Gura will have upwards of 10k+ people watching at the very least

>> No.19813496

>>19813422
something tells me fatto catto wouldn't be having just a comfy zatsu with gura over.

>> No.19813513
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>it's war

>> No.19813536

>>19813422
Gura does not speak enough JP to comfortably shack up in a JP holomem’s place. Maybe Haachama since the entire family can speak Engrisu

>> No.19813546

>>19812266
Streamers have been saying donos don't contribute that much compared to other stuff like sponsorship for years but viewers don't seem to understand becaues they want to believe that their contribution is more important than it is.

>> No.19813554

>See Gura's stream
Yeah, i need to take my med..

>> No.19813560

>>19813536
Sex need no language

>> No.19813568

>>19813360
That's hefty low for Nene? Even outright ignoring the tracing shitshow I expected her to at least be able to reach 20k since it should have a welcome back buff.
Also La+ getting solid numbers, quite nice to see.

>> No.19813574

What are the chances that Gura directly calls out Fungus Covid and calls him a nigger faggot?

>> No.19813594

>>19813568
Nene hasn't been gone THAT long

>> No.19813603

>>19813574
-10000%. Ame and Kiara are the only ones I could see referencing it obliquely.

>> No.19813616

>>19813360
the power of HoloJP and later the big guns will be streamin

>> No.19813619

>>19813574
Directly -20%. Indirectly 35%

>> No.19813625

>>19813568
she just got a
number one victory royale

>> No.19813644

Gura in JP prime time? Last time was with Shion?

>> No.19813675

>>19813247
They can stream at Cover’s office which Iroha is doing rn. Iroha did mention about meeting a senpai at the office and telling her not to mention her name so I will eat this rrat up that Gura’s in Japan

>> No.19813677

>>19813625
Yeah, fortnite?
She bout to get down?

>> No.19813690

>>19813513
>>19811603
>>19811987
>>19812907
Thread theme https://youtu.be/PuxyAqJZlG0

>> No.19813699

>>19813568
she was out for like 3 days only
also it is the weakest yab of all time most people don't even care

>> No.19813711

>>19813675
My med... Need to take...

>> No.19813715

>>19813270
Pekora Sekiro already lose its buff but 25k should still be possible
Gura can beat that if she play her card right

>> No.19813719

>>19813282
Imagine Gura streaming with setup of JP
She would turn webcam on due to not knowing Japanese

>> No.19813720

>>19813594
True I guess, maybe the whole official statement stuff warped my perspective of how long has she been away.

>> No.19813732

>>19813699
>weakest yab of all time
Nah that's Laplus recent yab, which can even be considered a reverse yab

>> No.19813736

>>19813719
It's a fucking office anon, they have people there

>> No.19813740

>>19813690
hololive has some fucking great fan-made projects

>> No.19813743

>>19813568
It's a kind of weird stream. Nene wasn't gone that long, the yab is weak and she's singing really well but she's not genki and that's so not Nene.

>> No.19813755

>>19813270
botan will likely get good numbers but that was her first stream for ER

>> No.19813768

>>19813740
I still remember TouhouSniper and his Holo Grand Order projects. Dude really spend time talking about the gameplay of every single Holo

>> No.19813777

https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1501137208006352900?

4400 likes.

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>>19813675
>Iroha just collabed with Gura

>> No.19813824

>>19813777
I want to believe Gura is in Japan but it would be funny if this was a scheduled tweet

>> No.19813857

>>19813675
>>19813794
Gura replaced Ame for a different Blonde.

>> No.19813873

>>19813777
>1.4m followers
>3.8m subs
Dead followers, dead subs

>> No.19813902

>>19813873
How about dead cummies
*cums on you*

>> No.19813928

>>19813743
She's still feeling guilty for the tracing

>> No.19813935

>>19813732
that's not even a yab, nothing bad has happen

>> No.19813969

https://youtu.be/aetXqd9B8WE
400K likes, second highest Mori's song( third highest for Gura)

>> No.19813978

You faggots running with this nonsense...knock it off.
Gura is most likely just adjusting her sleep schedule for HoloFes.

>> No.19813998

I mean, why is Gura suddenly so excited for 3D and idol reps if the performance could be prerecorded without them dancing?

But how big would it be if Gura actually performs there?

>> No.19813999

>>19813928
She should. I used to think she faked being a retard. I was wrong.

>> No.19814048

>>19813969
Oh both third for Mori and Gura
Moro: KING RIP Q
Gura : KING REFLECT Q

>> No.19814050

>>19813978
Why would she have to do that? It isn't live. If she's awake at this time it's probably because they're rehearsing or recording her parts.

>> No.19814105

How can one stop falling for Gura?

>> No.19814153

>>19813978
If Gura is in Japan, Mori or Kiara would have leaked it first for attention as usual.

>> No.19814188

We went from
>Gura has a guerilla stream on JP primetime
to
>Gura is in Japan streaming on the Cover studio with Iroha
sasuga /#/

>> No.19814218

>>19814188
You missed
>Gura is in Japan bunking in a HoloJP member's house and they're going to have hot lesbian sex after the stream ends

>> No.19814223

>>19814153
She didn't tell them

>> No.19814230

>>19814188
Sasuga cumtards*

>> No.19814232

https://youtu.be/u7DXD8TOm9g

This Gura clip has 401k views after 3 days.

>> No.19814255

dawh no sc reading from Nene
still was around 5k$ last time i checked on playboard

>> No.19814256

Ame just like the tweet. What does it mean?

>> No.19814273

>>19814218
gura-okayu-shion threesome ???

>> No.19814283

>>19814256
They had sex in the plane to Japan. Screenshot this.

>> No.19814295

>>19814256
Ame is still awake?

>> No.19814323

I want what # is smoking

>> No.19814325

Meds. Now. All of you.

>> No.19814345

>>19814325
People are taking meds tho. Hopium.

>> No.19814368

>>19814323
you don't, you'll end up only coming back here, become a regular. an existence so cursed I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

>> No.19814390

>>19814325
I've already take the med, it just refused to go away

>> No.19814394

AHHHHHH WHY THE FUCK PEKORA STREAM EVEN EARLIER TODAY

>> No.19814472

Isn't Japan still closing its border? There's not a chance. Take meds.

>> No.19814510

>>19814325
you should've said that 3 hours ago when the fujos and disocrd SEAtrannies are here.

>> No.19814516

>>19814472
I mean, you are allowed into Japan on a business visa.

>> No.19814559

My brother just called me saying he heard on the internet Gura is in Japan and will be having a stream with Iroha, you guys heard anything about that?

>> No.19814563

>Miko ran to the store yesterdag
>Gura streaming during JP time
Seems obvious that Gura is staying with Miko and Miko ran to the store to buy food for Gura.

>> No.19814567

>>19814472
japan opened borders for business travels last week

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>>19814472
https://www.japan-guide.com/news/alerts.html

>> No.19814613

I'm Gura's Boyfriend, she told me she's in Japan this week. It's a shame, but at least, I have Kronii to fill my needs when she's gone.

>> No.19814621

>>19814295
ame still awake because she watched shien stream a while ago

>> No.19814648

>>19814613
>didn't go with her to have sex with her asian coworkers
ngmi

>> No.19814651 [SPOILER] 
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My rrat is spreading

>> No.19814670

Did Gura just break # without trying anything?

>> No.19814692

>>19814670
# was always broken

>> No.19814712

>>19814516
>>19814567
>>19814592
Me- actually, i'll take it, i'll take that rrat up.

>> No.19814775

If Growling Grumbles gets the gold I am gonna be pissed.

>> No.19814821

>>19814670
As a chumbud I’m laughing but also really confused as to why this stream is happening. I want to say it was a scheduled tweet placed on the wrong hour (am instead of pm) but ame liked it too?? Like if she knew, she would’ve just stayed away from it but it’s almost like acknlowedging a stream is happening

>> No.19814859

>>19814821
Maybe Gura is adjusting her sleep schedule to watch HoloFes without getting a headache.

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>>19814592
https://www.japan.travel/en/coronavirus/
stop living in the past

>> No.19814912

>>19814859
I mean, that's what I said, but these delusional fucks refuse to take their meds.

>> No.19814914

If Suisei does not get Gold today, she is reclining.

>> No.19814922

>>19814592
Maybe gura got a japanese visa? Though I doubt because she just confirmed to have covid during the EN off collab.

>> No.19814943

Pekora really know what she is doing. She switch up her time slot to maintain the funneling, indirectly help the box
Meanwhile other Holos insist on overlapping

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Sorry Tojiro, 10k is for grownups

>> No.19814961

why is fulgur living rent free in your head? did his comment strike a nerve?

>> No.19814967

>>19814859
who the fuck adjust their sleeping schedule two week in advanced

>> No.19814969

>>19814912
It just feels a week too early for that. Maybe the caffine gremlins schedule is so JUST that she has no choice but stream now if she wants to stream.

>> No.19814980

>>19814651
Kill pokobe

>> No.19815041

Lamy bought the NA timeslot from Gura, who was the last one keeping her away from completely dominating the Lamy timeslot. She also gave her some random JP timeslot in the bargain

>> No.19815044

>>19814914
she should get it, easy 30k+ for her karaoke
only botan can challenge her tonight

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???

>> No.19815083

>>19814651
AAÀAAAAHHhHHHH!!!!!!!! STOP SPREADING RRATS YOu FAT FUCKK!!!!

>> No.19815085

>>19814961
>t. Fungus Covid

>> No.19815086

>>19815048
female viewers... I kneel..

>> No.19815091

>>19815048
Your reps anon...

>> No.19815102

Chikuwa-chan valorant stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moXueaMRi_8

Currently have 50-60 view
Meanwhile yesterday her vampire survivor stream have 500-700 view

>> No.19815122

ohnonono its slippage from holos!
King status?

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>>19814651

>> No.19815137

>>19815122
>ohnonono its slippage from holos!
Wut? There was no front runner for today's gold, was there?

>> No.19815140

>>19815048
>29 years and 13 months?!?
>Birthday
Ehhhhhhh

>> No.19815146

>>19815122
Sleeping.

>> No.19815153

>>19815048
Did Lauren's fujos moved to Leos now? I forgot how much he got for his birthday but i remember it being a lot.

>> No.19815171

>>19815085
>t.rentfree

>> No.19815182

>>19815153
Shouldn't have messed with nipples, silly orange Kuzuha

>> No.19815202

>>19815153
They share no fanbase you dumbfuck.

>> No.19815212

You guys are just setting Gura up to fail with insane shit like "using a mediocre game in a JP timeslot she never streams in, Gura will get gold over peko and Botan playing buff games"

>> No.19815217
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>THERE IS A SANA-FULGUR GENERAL NOW
Like the Anya-Petra, I assume it will last long

>> No.19815240

Popo vampire survivor stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBYBoMbeYgA

Currently have 800-850 view
I dont know if she was indie or from small corp

>> No.19815245

>>19814961
Why does Council lives rent free in NijiEN's head? Does their success makes them seethe so much they have to own a private venting server to destress themselves?

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>>19815217
>hides your post
>filters md5

>> No.19815255

>>19812551
This really triggered the nijiniggers huh?

>> No.19815259

>>19815153
Leos' fanbase is mostly blokes.

>> No.19815269

>>19815240
She's from 774 inc. and those are normal numbers for her.

>> No.19815273

>>19815240
She’s 774. The isekai group. Why are we discussing midgets again?

>> No.19815284

>>19815245
Because Council didn't ride the big hype wave Myth had and they think it makes them an easy target compared to their female failures.

>> No.19815291

Still a very competitive timeslot for Gura especially with no build up. I will be glad if she at least pull a higher ccv than her last Project Diva.

>> No.19815296

>>19815217
really rentfree
it's crazy how fragile holobronnies are and he didnt even say anything controversial.
Fuck, he said what holobronnies themselves have been repeating like mantra all the time. It's like when you fight with your sibling and call them all kinds of names but when someone outside family does that you suddenly defend them. Same shit

>> No.19815299

Chihiro-chan Apex stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geAIgPcuBn0

Currently have 7200 view
I dont know if this was a tournament or not though

>> No.19815303
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>>19815212
TODAY IT DOES NOT SLIP!

>> No.19815335

>>19815296
Sorry mate, every hobby needs the designated villain, it is just that he set himself up for just that

>> No.19815338

>>19815245
I mean I wouldnt call it rentfree. It's the biggets english vtuber branch so naturally competitors have to look at their direction if they want to compete and after huge myth success council's failure is even more apparent.

>> No.19815344

NIJICOPE LIST
*FRAMED IN GOLD*
>>Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP
>>Council didn't do as well Luxiem
>>Holo management were mad about Nijis opening applications again so fast

*CLASSIC*
>quality
>chemistry
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales (without evidence)
>fortune telling
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>foreign audience bad, local Nips good
>YouTube Japan
>flexible creative freedom
>Google trends
>Holobubble is bursting >Niji is more popular than Holo in Japan
>Niji is mainstream in Japan, which is more important than Holo's international dominance
>Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Cover uses bots
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate

*NUMBERS*
>percentage
>ratio
>volume
>quality numbers
>combined peak CCV
>combined peak CCV from different times
>dead cat bounce
>fake numbers
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers
>VOD views don't count
>views don't matter
>deadsubs doesn't matter, what matters is dedication
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad
>holotrash cant get 200k ccv stream without graduation
>-43%

*IT DOESN'T COUNT*
>tournaments don't count
>outfit reveals don't count
>relays don't count
>Koshien is not an event
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Square Enix doesn't count
>Bookwalker doesn't count
>Pokemon doesn't count
>gacha rolling streams doesn't count
>gen 3 shouldn't count so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos

*MERCH AND SPONSORS*
>number of merch determines popularity, not any other metric
>Niji shilling makes games like Genshin successful in Japan
>sponsorships are retarded
>Holo's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>20 Holo merch for fake scarcity
>>Bushiroad associating with Holo is toxic for their growth as it was making them lose the Chinese market in the long run

*OTHERS*
>stop picking on midgets! (they started the fight themselves)
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>trailers are ads
>playing the victim
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>most vtubers are Niji-like and Niji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Holo invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Niji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>honorary Niji
>Niji have morals
>moral victory
>rightful sovereignty
>five Mystas
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Holocope list
>Holo is only popular because of chink clippers
>Niji has a better following than Holo in the west
>*Selen delusion here*
>there are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Niji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>only the west speaks english
>Twitter interactions
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher
>Nijifans tend to interact with the streams "properly"
>Niji keeps failing but that's okay because they are rich
>having shit mics pre-debut is tradition
>Cover paid off the government to come down hard on their rivals
>Management forced Mori to unfollow Nijis
>at least Vox whores himself to his fans
>indies will more likely go to NijiEN first, stay indie second and then choose HoloEN as their last resort
>If they make fun of you, you win
>No u tier posting

>> No.19815357

>>19814908
Are you perhaps retarded? It says the same thing, and Gura meets both requirements.

>> No.19815368
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>>19815048
Set contents
> Acrylic panel (approx. 280 mm x 200 mm) (Duplicate autographed message included)
> B2 tapestry
> 56mm tin badge ・ 75mm tin badge
> Acrylic frame key chain (approx. W41mm x H70mm)
> Leos Vincent Birthday Voice 2022 (With bonus wallpaper using key visuals)
Full set 10k yen

There would still be idiots who would buy the same stuff from nijis all over again for $92. Those wouldn't cost that much to make. Even Ame's merch (Tshirt and mug) costs like $47.

>> No.19815382

>>19815299
>has the word "Custom" in the title
You should know by now that Custom events, regardless of who hosts it (Shibuhal, Gorilla, Makio, etc), are major apex events

>> No.19815395

>>19815335
>t. holobronny

>> No.19815444

>only 4.7k waiting
Reclining…

>> No.19815467

>>19815368
All of their BD merch is like this. Kinda scummy but it's Anycolor. They want to maximize profits like Konami.

>> No.19815469
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tfw still no 30k stream yet

>> No.19815471

>>19815344
>>Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP
never said that
>>Council didn't do as well Luxiem
fact
>>Holo management were mad about Nijis opening applications again so fast
never said that but prolly true kek

Numbers thread was much better before EN sharts migrated here. fuck off barbarian

>> No.19815480

https://youtu.be/dC6MzWrLee0
gold contender

>> No.19815490
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19815490

Peko easy 20k, will likely beat her usual 22k on the top of the hour

>> No.19815507

>>19815296
>La+ IP got tracked on 5ch
>All full of cute posts and now they liking her
>Niji discord got leaked
>Tribalist shitposting actually horrible human being

>> No.19815514

>>19815480
Oh yeah easy gold for Suisei, please let Suisei win today. I want to post suisei lewds.

>> No.19815517

>>19815212
>Botan
No one's going to watch her when Pekora is streaming plus Mori's going to stream Elden Ring later too

>> No.19815533

>>19815471
you know you've hit a nerve when nijiniggers start falseflagging

>> No.19815540

>>19815507
>pretending like la+ didnt do that on purpose
c'mon now

>> No.19815548

>>19815507
>tribalist shitposting
Grow thicker skin, what Fulgur said wasn't even that offensive or wrong compared to the shit some of you spew about Nijisanji in this thread.

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>>19815507
>JAV folder gets leaked
>Forever branded as "NippleMan", can't get sponsorship anymore

>> No.19815561

>>19815471
>Point 1
Yes they did. It makes no sense to refer to 'their Japanese livers' of they're refering to NijiJP. You would instead say 'our' or something indicating that the group they were referring to was Nijisanji, instead the convo was all about Hololive, and thus in context, 'they' can only refer to HoloJP. As for why lovers? Because they're Nijisanji and the refer to all of their talents and vtubers as livers.

>> No.19815577

>>19815558
nippleman comeback when ?

>> No.19815582

>>19815533
you know you've hit a nerve when en shart starts projecting.

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19815600

>>19815548
Anon, just because people want to see Fulgur burn doesn't mean they're tribalists. I guarantee 80% of the people doing it are doing for the lulz and a couple of weeks ago were stoken the fire of Rushia's predicament

Some men just want to watch the world burn

>> No.19815604

>>19815582
>No u tier posting
yep, right from the playbook

>> No.19815606

>>19815540
it was leaked by subaru tho

>> No.19815608

was there any ninjien girls that tried jp primetime slot?

>> No.19815614

>>19815507
why are holobronies so fragile? truly the my little pony fanbase all over again. cancer.

>> No.19815617

>>19815561
Even if they did they're not wrong, Luxiem/Noctyx outearned holoJP's top earners as a group

>> No.19815631

>>19815548
>he says that they aren't doing as well as expected
>the thread that has called for sending their roommates pictures of severed limbs, getting them to graduate, and put in prison is somehow offended

>> No.19815644

>>19815606
timeframe anon... subaru leaked it first and then la+ posted on 5chan. not the other way around

>> No.19815646

>>19815548
schizos and fans shit posting, perfectly fine.
talents and livers shit posting, certified retards.

The problem is not what he said, the problem is that he caught on hot mic acting like a 4channer. Even if he didn't leak it himself, he gets the certified retard stamp and should be bullied until he stops being a liver.

>> No.19815654

>>19815617
Shedding the disguise this early? Nijiniggers truly can't meme

>> No.19815655

>>19815617
>Luxiem/Noctyx outearned holoJP's top earners as a group
[PURGE HORN BUZZIN]
> NIJICOEP ALERT
< NIJICOEP ALERT

NijiCOEP list anon, here is one more

>> No.19815665

>>19815617
Miko just pushed $570k of merch in 24 hours a few days ago... Vox keeps about $48k of his February earnings.

>> No.19815672
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19815672

>>19815604
keep seething shart

>> No.19815681

>>19815357
>Are you perhaps retarded?
well i am here, aren't i?

>> No.19815682

IF THERE'S NO TECH ISSUE ON GURA STREAM, SHES GUARANTEED STREAMING ON COVER OFFICE

>> No.19815693

>>19815665
Proof that those are actual numbers instead of made up cope? Oh wait you can't, meanwhile SCs can be tallied for everyone to see.

>> No.19815706

ITS LIVE
ITS AN ACTUAL STREAM

>> No.19815733

NIJICOPE LIST
*FRAMED IN GOLD*
>>Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP
>>Council didn't do as well Luxiem
>>Holo management were mad about Nijis opening applications again so fast

*CLASSIC*
>quality
>chemistry
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales (without evidence)
>fortune telling
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>foreign audience bad, local Nips good
>YouTube Japan
>flexible creative freedom
>Google trends
>Holobubble is bursting >Niji is more popular than Holo in Japan
>Niji is mainstream in Japan, which is more important than Holo's international dominance
>Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Cover uses bots
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate

*NUMBERS*
>percentage
>ratio
>volume
>quality numbers
>combined peak CCV from different times
>dead cat bounce
>fake numbers
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers
>VOD views don't count
>views don't matter
>deadsubs doesn't matter, what matters is dedication
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad
>holotrash cant get 200k ccv stream without graduation
>-43%
>Combined SC vs one Holo

*IT DOESN'T COUNT*
>tournaments don't count
>outfit reveals don't count
>relays don't count
>Koshien is not an event
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Square Enix doesn't count
>Bookwalker doesn't count
>Pokemon doesn't count
>gacha rolling streams doesn't count
>gen 3 shouldn't count so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos

*MERCH AND SPONSORS*
>number of merch determines popularity, not any other metric
>Niji shilling makes games like Genshin successful in Japan
>sponsorships are retarded
>Holo's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>20 Holo merch for fake scarcity
>>Bushiroad associating with Holo is toxic for their growth as it was making them lose the Chinese market in the long run

*OTHERS*
>stop picking on midgets! (they started the fight themselves)
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>trailers are ads
>playing the victim
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>most vtubers are Niji-like and Niji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Holo invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Niji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>honorary Niji
>Niji have morals
>moral victory
>rightful sovereignty
>five Mystas
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Holocope list
>Holo is only popular because of chink clippers
>Niji has a better following than Holo in the west
>*Selen delusion here*
>there are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Niji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>only the west speaks english
>Twitter interactions
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher
>Nijifans tend to interact with the streams "properly"
>Niji keeps failing but that's okay because they are rich
>having shit mics pre-debut is tradition
>Cover paid off the government to come down hard on their rivals
>Management forced Mori to unfollow Nijis
>at least Vox whores himself to his fans
>indies will more likely go to NijiEN first, stay indie second and then choose HoloEN as their last resort
>If they make fun of you, you win
>No u tier posting

>> No.19815737

predicition for botan's ER ? pretty heavy overlap tho, i expect at least 15k

>> No.19815774

en sharts need to go back

>> No.19815778

>all these Gura members awake at this hour
Truly a global fanbase

>> No.19815780

>>19815693
>Nijifags happy to acknowledge that Lize pushed $120k in just acrylic stands using data mining methods before they got patched
>somehow it's invalid now
I'm done with you.

>> No.19815784

>>19815617
dejavu
this feels like all the posting around eden-gumi debutes

>> No.19815792

>>19815682
>Gura starting early
Is she really in Japan?

>> No.19815825

>room recovery within a de minutes
Oh yeah, that's the stuff

>> No.19815831

>>19812614
7AM where she's at. kek
the noctyx comments really got to holo en

>> No.19815866

>3.8m sub
>Sub 10k stream
Reclining

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>>19815866

>> No.19815899

> Gura eating watery oatmeal and drinking tea
RRATS STATUS

> [] NOT SLAYED
> [x] SLAYED

>> No.19815908

>>19815780
>no proof the data mining methods for holo are real, or even if they are that the data miner is reporting the right numbers and not just making shit up to make hololive JP livers look more successful than Luxiem
Oh the cope

>> No.19815907

>>19815617
Dont over compared a fucking Nijiniggers to a HoloJP fucking disgusting

>> No.19815915

>>19815899
AAA MY RRATS

>> No.19815932

This quick room recovery time in JP hours physically sickens me. Why did Susan do this to burger viewers?
t. Yuro

>> No.19815941

>>19815866
anon?

>> No.19815951

>>19815899
Nips eat this though

>> No.19815952

>those HoloID numbers
now thats the stuff

>> No.19815958
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19815958

>Edengumi is a failure
Lmao

>> No.19815965

>>19815932
I mentioned it before, but I'm pretty sure it's because of the verification servers physically being japan fucks with US viewers

>> No.19815972

Gura??? WTF?

>> No.19815973

>>19815490
Pretty good. she push her slot up earlier which will funnel into a lot more streams

>> No.19815979

>>19815893
>>19815941
>sub 20k stream
Reclining

>> No.19816004

>>19815958
so this is on purpose right?

>> No.19816016
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>>19812037
NOCTYX DELENDA EST

>> No.19816025

>>19815908
oh a cover glownigger
you aren't getting the info my man, just hire better coders next time

>> No.19816033

>>19815958
Finana go to sleep man.

>> No.19816037

Sooooo where are the gen 5 faggots who claimed Botan would do better than Gura?

>> No.19816044

More reasonable rrat:Gura cancelled duolingo to do it in JP hours, she was gonna do it today, realized it needs an announcement but she was already awake so did this instead

>> No.19816051

It seems Gura wants EN gold and real gold. Chumbuds need to thank the retarded Nijis. Kek

>> No.19816056

>>19815973
why? holojp supposed to funnel to pekora not the other way around...

>> No.19816074

not looking for gura...

>> No.19816094

Welcome Gura, this is the meat grinder that is JP prime time. I hope you like your stay.

>> No.19816103

NIJIEN THIS MEANS WAR!!!!!!!!!! GURA WILL STREAM ON ALL TIMESLOT NOW, YOUR CHINK STAND NO CHANCE! MYSTA? VOX? BTFO

>> No.19816107

>>19816056
Who said she can't do the funneling? Pekora know better than to overlap, seem like she's the only Holo who know how to play the game

>> No.19816117

>nail-cutting ASMR
Gura's going wild

>> No.19816126

>>19816037
Stop grudge baiting my shark, Botan will do better and there's a million reasons as to why

>> No.19816134

>>19816094
>meat grinder
>trashing almost every JP vtuber and will pass Pekora in 30 min
Too easy

>> No.19816152

>>19815614
>Deflecting
Truly a definition of a nijinigger

>> No.19816170
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19816170

>Nijisanji academy... ;-(
Will they get mogged by Sony tubers?

>> No.19816179

You can physically feel the seethe gura generates in nijiniggers just by streaming at this hour

>> No.19816197

>Pekora 20k
Quite disappointing

>> No.19816201

>>19816134
>Stalling already
>Will beat Pekora in 30mins
Kek. This is why cumtards are not welcomed here.

>> No.19816223

>>19816126
>says the gen 5 faggot 15 minutes in nervously as Botan continues to fail to pass the shark

>> No.19816246

>>19816170
What the f is this? Explain?

>> No.19816268

Noel will finishing soon and it will funnel to Botan

>> No.19816274

>>19816201
I mean Pekora are at 20k right now and Gura is playing her (supposed?) buff game, it's quite easy to beat 20k with that
Stop underestimating Gura, I fucking hate Gura vs Pekora timeloop

>> No.19816286

>>19816179
>Can't beat Vox 20k ccv and $30k zatsudan with a buff game
>Thinks dead subs shark makes us Nijichad seethe
Cope and seethe more Holofags

>> No.19816288
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19816288

>3.8m subs

>> No.19816291

>>19816246
>>19816170
already doing better than nijiID and some nijiKR

>> No.19816294
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19816294

>Nijinigger started his HoloEN vs HoloJP
Like clockwork

>> No.19816326

>>19816288
>>19815958
It just keeps moving the goalposts

>> No.19816331

Next thread>>19816263

>> No.19816343

Don't you love it? Luca is currently holding the EN gold and the first target people bash at is Botan

>> No.19816344

>>19816134
she might, but she has more competition in current time slot then she normally does. But then again, cumbuds watch gura and no one else.

>> No.19816352

>>19816294
It's afraid

>> No.19816356

>>19816294
They are seething because their so called " EN gold" are slipping away

>> No.19816368

I'm actually fucking fuming watching how fast Gura ccv inclines compared to the slow as molasses verification she usually gets in NA. This is karaoke stream speed

>> No.19816369

>>19816294
It's mysta and vox shitting up the place again. Go whoring elsewhere please.

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>>19815958
OH NO NO NO NO NO

>> No.19816403

>>19816368
Welcome to JP time. Where people actually watch streams and not just peek on what's going on

>> No.19816407

>>19816383
HAHAHAHA

>> No.19816415

>>19816291
>already doing better than nijiID and some nijiKR
No they're not, not today at least.

>> No.19816429

>>19816288
I’ll give you the (You) you desire but can you come up with a more fun shitpost that isn’t going to look silly and a matter of minutes?

>> No.19816459

>walks into luckshitter timeslot
>takes their EN gold
Roru. Rumao.

>> No.19816461

>>19816403
Also SEA primetime. Most big JP stream right after dinner in SEA region

>> No.19816512

>>19816459
AIEEEEEEEE GURA I KNEEL

>> No.19816519
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>>19816288
IT KEEPS FUCKIGN HAPPENING

>> No.19816536

ENSHART DEPLOY THE VOD COPES QUICK!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.19816537

A lot of jp lolicon bros thristy for gura.

>> No.19816544

Gura gets EN gold but Botan is currently winning. Gen5 schizo you can seethe now

>> No.19816554

>>19816288
>>19815958
I WARNED YOU ABOUT BETTING AGAINST GURA BRO

>> No.19816559

retard pretending that gura have the gold instead of pekora

>> No.19816585

>>19816288
>>19815958
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.19816592

>>19816559
I think your rabbit need to kneel to La lion soon

>> No.19816603

Pekola still standing strong

>> No.19816610

>>19816544
Wait until Botan bets pekora too. Then the real seethe begins

>> No.19816655

So the same CCV as her prime time, 25% NA huh?

>> No.19816654

Can the empress take the gold for today?

>> No.19816665

I think Elden schizo is really Gen5 schizo. Explains why he is not celebrating that Elden ring Botan will mog everyone

>> No.19816671

WTF BOTAN IS POPULAR? THIS IS RIGGED AF

>> No.19816675

AIEEEE NOT LIKE THIS NIJISIS GET VOX TO STREAM HIS *checks notes* 408K SUBS MILESTONE

>> No.19816694

Every minute more eurofags get out of work or school and burgers wake up.

Gura has this in the bag.

>> No.19816705

>>19816603
20k is quite disappointing but look at the overall leaderboard today, it's not too bad

>> No.19816716

>>19816675
AAAAAAA VOX DO A STREAM TO CELEBRATE YOUR SOON TO BE 420K RIGHT NOW

>> No.19816723

>Fooling around in editor
>Viewership goes up by 800
Goowa… We may potentially see a 20k out of this stream afterall

>> No.19816726

mori ER stand no chance huh...
button i kneel

>> No.19816729

>needing a funnel from Noel for the buff game to beat Gura
Shameful but numbers are numbers

>> No.19816757

>jwu
>see thread is faster than usual
What the...
>Gura is actually streaming near JP primetime
DAFUQ!?
>Is going againsts Pekora
oooooh

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>>19816152
struck a nerve?

>> No.19816773

>>19816654
yeah

>> No.19816774

>>19816729
Noel is still streaming anon with an amazing 13k as well

>> No.19816809

>>19816774
shut up, don't destroy my narrative

>> No.19816819

>>19816331
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING THIS THREAD IS NO WHERE NEAR GETTING KICKED OFF

>> No.19816827

Why are people pushing Project Diva as a buff game for Gura? It's, at best, neutral content for her.

>> No.19816838

>>19816729
you really just post whatever without checking first
faggot. hope your father rapes your dog

>> No.19816842

I am not ready for another Gura vs Pekora timeloop bros...

>> No.19816849

>>19816827
You know why.

>> No.19816853

Botan would be even stronger if half her viewership wasn't stuck getting javelined with no wi fi

>> No.19816884

But for real, why the fuck Gura is streaming so early for burguers?
Is she in Japan?

>> No.19816883

>>19816761
>Still deflecting
Wait don't tell me are you seething Fulgur Kek?

>> No.19816893

>>19816853
Once polka end botan going to mog pekora.

>> No.19816897

>>19816827
It's pretty neutral, yeah
I remember being surprised she got under 20k with it and this was early 2021

>> No.19816906

>>19816827
>people
it's nijiEN talents trying to downplay Gura

>> No.19816907

>>19816288
Lucasisters.....How do we cope? She is dabbing on us with Luka Luka Night Fever

>> No.19816912

>>19816849
If was a buffish the first few times, but she's got that 'must get perfect mindset ' and will often repeat the same songs, and so we get apex-like waves for the songs. It's actually kinda funny to look at.

>> No.19816960

>>19816906
just call them nijiniggers anon, there's no difference now

>> No.19816963

>>19816912
thats probably the best comparison. it being somewhat like apex with waves in the ccv

>> No.19816966

>>19816853
I imagine they have a peace treaty when Botan streams.

>> No.19817027

>>19816912
The tab cull is brutal for games like this.

>> No.19817042
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19817042

If you tell me these 3 are playing fromsoft's games a month ago, I wouldn't believe you

>> No.19817051

>>19816966
imagine if someone playing her orisong in te middle of the shootout...

>> No.19817058

>>19816883
>still seething and projecting

>> No.19817125

>>19817027
Yeah especially because of how frequent it must be and how slow youtube seems to verify viewers, you’re left with these giant waves like her dropping to 16k then up to 16.8k randomly

>> No.19817137

>>19817042
The fortunes of YAGOO continue to rise
who will kneel next?

>> No.19817140

>>19817042
Agreed, I'd tell you this image was 100% fake at the start of the year if I had seen it then.

>> No.19817141

>>19816838
Oddly specific anon, experienced something to that extent?

>> No.19817183

>>19817042
Bro...Pekora literally have played Sekiro years ago. And for Noel, she literally is popular for playing Souls game
Botan is the only one who I didn't expect since she usually play FPS

>> No.19817213

>>19817183
Anon, the rrat was that FromSoft would NEVER EVER EVER give Cover permission for any of their branches again

>> No.19817270

BOTAN 20K GET!!!!!
gen5 shcizo your knee reps

>> No.19817293

>>19817270
Gen5schizo loses but Eldenschizo wins... no...

>> No.19817295

Is Botan getting the gold today ?
How many time since her last ?

>> No.19817321

>>19817213
yeah, it's the same thing as Pekora playing MGSR right now

>> No.19817331

>>19817295
Suisei karaoke

>> No.19817354

Who the fuck care about Gura? Botan out here beating Pekora on a game stream likely for the first time
I never thought this scenario would be possible

>> No.19817360
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19817360

STOP THE COUNT NOW!

>> No.19817394

>>19817360
>>19817354
GEN 5 SCHIZO DON'T LOOK

>> No.19817408

>>19817354
>Botan out here beating Pekora on a game stream likely for the first time
Didn't she beat Pekora with Vampire Survivors not a week ago?

>> No.19817414

>>19817293
they're the same person, so whenever botan get good number on ER, he vanished or started another nene thing

>> No.19817416

ahhhhh finally, Pekora beat that damn old hag. She can move to next part of the story now.

>> No.19817435

>>19817408
Same game? No

>> No.19817441

>>19817360
I really really believe Pekora just run on doomposts at this point. Every time people doomposting about her number she got back up

>> No.19817466

>JOPs superchatting Gura asking her to say stuff
These poor, stupid bastards don't know you only superchat Gura during a supa reading if actually want her to read it

>> No.19817474

Wait till Peko plays ER

>> No.19817480

>>19817441
Funilly enough the same applies for Gura

>> No.19817485

Noel is going to end her stream at 22 jst due to a meeting, I wonder where will those viewers go - pekora, botan or suisei?

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