/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber
>https://mix.live-ranking.com/?keyword=バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>32,992: Gura (Hololive)
>32,879: Miko (Hololive)
>28,048: Subaru (Hololive)
>24,286: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>21,768: Fubuki (Hololive)
>17,953: Okayu (Hololive)
>16,996: Subaru (Hololive)
>16,158: Mio (Hololive)
>13,883: Mito (Nijisanji)
>13,767: Fubuki (Hololive)
>13,439: Hal (merise)
>13,140: Choco (Hololive)
>12,625: Mio (Hololive)
>11,693: Baelz (Hololive)
>11,649: Calli (Hololive)
>11,321: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>10,947: Vox (Nijisanji)
>10,813: Chloe (Hololive)
>10,023: Hayato (Nijisanji)

>WHY DO YOU HATE JUN AGAIN, LADS!?
Single handedly forcing the hand of FromSoft to clarify their nebulous permission system

>Again from last thread
Here is one interesting example because it got posted in many platforms

>Coub (33.4k views, 820 likes): https://coub.com/view/30j2uy
>Youtube (5.5k views, 1k likes): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO25N-zo8kg [Embed]
>Twitter (3.5k views, 1.1k likes): https://twitter.com/lowcostanime/status/1493683733337198593
>Reddit (11.2k upvotes): https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/std155/hololive_is_never_over/

This is also interesting for another reason: reddit is a blackhole of engagement.
People consume whatever is in front of them there and NEVER EVER access the original source or engage with it (as it's clearly seen by the number of votes vs. actual number of views in other platforms linked in the same post)

Another interesting things is that coub is clearly overlooked as a platform for spreading material outside the usual western circles. The audience is there, it just doesn't have any name recognition, and that is not even the main ruskie platform
>which would be VKontact

>>18811967
roru

>>18817109
rare monster... what happened

>>18817054
well, yeah, sorry to say but Russia is not exactly a up and coming market that everyone in the world is dying to get into. It's pretty much only wierdos like us who salivate at the thought of breaking into slavland

>>18816881
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>33,028: Gura (Hololive)
>11,693: Baelz (Hololive)
>11,690: Mori (Hololive)
>10,951: Vox (Nijisanji)
>9,261: IRyS (Hololive)
>9,091: Kiara (Hololive)
>8,424: Ina (Hololive)
>6,667: Enna (Nijisanji)
>5,576: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>5,112: Vox (Nijisanji)

>>18817174
EN Gold so far for February

1. Gura (Hololive) - 14,594
2. Amelia (Hololive) - 16,124
3. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,090
4. Gura (Hololive) - 15,901
5. Gura (Hololive) - 21,737
6. Gura (Hololive) - 15,900
7. Baelz (Hololive) - 9,914
8. Mumei (Hololive) - 15,409
9. Vox (Nijisanji) - 14,841
10. Mori (Hololive) - 21,458
11. Kronii (Hololive) - 11,342
12. Baelz (Hololive) - 12,112
13. Ike (Nijisanji) - 11,391
14. IRyS (Hololive) - 15,466
15. Nijisanji English Official (Nijisanji) - 22,662
16. Gura (Hololive) - 18,916
17. Gura (Hololive) - 16,266
18. Kiara (Hololive) - 19,426
19. Mori (Hololive) - 26,667
20. Gura (Hololive) - 17,726
21. Gura (Hololive) - 33,028

Hololive - 18
Nijisanji - 3
Others - 0

I thought the game is out

>>18817054
anon that's because the entire video is available on reddit, same deal with twitter. there's no need to go to another site if the entire video is already on the platform you are on right now, the same reason why Dudul was a dumbass for putting his entire short video on twitter instead of just a sample and linking it to youtube

>Miko pressuring Yagoo to setup 3D studio overseas for EN/ID
What did she mean by this?

>>18817174
>>18817215
kys

>>18817174
>>18817215
kys

>>18816999
why are they against streaming programs?

>>18817242
WUT?

>>18817152
I agree in general but not because of any geopolitical situation (because it's dumb and in the internet nobody knows you're a dog or a ruskie) but because localizing content is expensive and hard to get right.

It is the same reason I don't think it would be worth trying to make a move for any market in the continental europe, localizing things in Spanish, Portuguese, French or German would be more hassle than worth considering these countries can consume content in english without problem

>>18817261
Standing orders/guidelines that streaming = piracy from 15 years ago

>>18817242
ame needs to be in japan before miko can rape her

didn't see anyone post this before.
Another small corpo vtuber bites the dust

>>18817242
Being based. They should also set it up in indonesia to save costs like labor & taxes. Their tech is in Japan anyway, so no need to be in US for tech

>>18817339
how many people will miko rape before someone stops her

>>18817289
Dumb baby doesn't understand logistics and that EN members are spread over 4 continents

>>18817361
who

Chloe's viewer retention is hella good for this stream. It's Green Hell all over again.

>FEBRUARY 2022 GOLD
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 33,951 - Apex Solo Masters climb
2) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 36,581 - Apex VCC w/ Daruma
3) Marine (Hololive) - 56,541 - Gartic Collab
4) Aqua (Hololive) - 51,799 - Apex Solo Masters climb (Ascended Arc)
5) Subaru (Hololive) - 22,620 - Free talk
6) Hoshikawa (Nijisanji) - 35,769 - Apex Gacha
7) Flare (Hololive) - 32,609 - Mario party collab
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,187 - Apex Gacha
9) Ayame (Hololive) - 29,857 - Return Karaoke
10) Toya (Nijisanji) - 41,275 - Return Zatsu
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 47,997 - Clubhouse 51 Totsu
12) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 48,836 - Valorant CR Cup
13) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 55,920 - Valorant CR Cup
14) Choco (Hololive) - 64,215 - Birthday Live
15) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33,655 - Apex
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 39,182 - Apex
17) Aki (Hololive) - 56,546 - Birthday
18) Towa (Hololive) - 25,019 - Clubhouse 51 feat. Chloe
19) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 51,223 - 500k celebration totsu
20) Flare (Hololive) - 68,566 - New 3D model
21) Gura (Hololive) - 32,992 - Unarchived Karaoke

>>18817389
some production kawaii girl

>>18817361
>challenging new inspirations and goals
which corpo is she joining

>>18817390
She needs to bring home those SC tho

>>18817232
they had some pre-release event where some big streamers played it over the weekend. now all that's up is countdown/giveaway streams

>>18817372
No, what I mean is where was it revealed that Miko was pushing for this. If so based, I'm just wondering where it came from.

>>18817428
Too late for Nijisanji. Might be hololive, but it's a little outside their usual MO. And also too early for Hololive

>>18817406
>booba gura
delete this

>>18816881
>>18817174

>>18817242
Are you sure that it is "pressuring" not offhand remarks like "Yo YAGOO build 3D studio overseas for ID and EN please?"

Reminder

>>18817524

>>18817390
She got 9k during flare's 3D. I'm not surprised. She got a loyal fanbase. Probably out there trying to groom the kid. Kek.

>>18817361
>November 2021 debut
Didn't last long

>>18817444
Yeah her SCs plummeted to hell and back the past few days. I still remember Vox during his 300k subs celebration managed to snag an upwards of 20k while Chloe's 750k karaoke only managed 16k iirc. Really need to pick the slack since she can't even seem to get 20k on anything anymore. Yes, not even Minecraft and karaoke streams.

>>18817678
Same deal as Prism Project girl, guess life as a corpo vtuber didn't agree with her

>>18817524
DON'T CLOSE YOUR EYES!
>DON'T LOOK AWAY!
LOOK AT THIS, IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED!?

>>18817557
Cheaper long-term if they build/buy a dorm for EN/ID in JP, and only bring engineers overseas for concerts.

>>18817716
if you don't stop i'll post booba shion

>>18817557
It's more than an offhand remark, but it's also not a deep discussion or anything like that. I missed the first few second when she starts talking about it,
just go check the vod when she's done reading SC, it's about 1-2 minutes before I made the post.
Either way it's a dumb suggestion and it's far more easier to get them to JP a few times a month

>>18817242
>3D studio overseas for EN/ID
kek, where would they build it? ID girls are as close to Tokyo as EN girls are from each other, with some in the East Coast, some not in the East Coast but still stateside, some in fucking Australia...

>>18817952
Probably LA would be the best place, though Kiara would be a bit screwed.

>>18817480
Her current stream obviously anon

>>18817361
>least coombait design that didn't even match the girls designs
Aruru made the right move. There's no point in being the runt of the pack for a startup.

>>18817952
Where the build it isn't the point. Even if the talents have to travel a bit if they build it in the US at least they will all be ABLE TO FUCKING GO THERE.

Japan and its meme virus lockdown has gotten out of control.

>>18818139
>Even if the talents have to travel a bit if they build it in the US at least they will all be ABLE TO FUCKING GO THERE.
You would think so but during the peak of the coof they would be hosed even flying stateside

>About 5,000 flights were canceled from Friday through Sunday, according to FlightAware, a data tracking service, with the daily number of cuts declining steadily over that period.
>Southwest Airlines suspended over 1,000 flights, more than any other carrier. SkyWest Airlines, which operates flights for several major carriers, and United Airlines each canceled more than 500 flights.
>The turmoil began before Christmas, caused by bad weather in the West and staff shortages because of virus outbreaks among employees. Snowfall in the Northeast continued to wreak havoc at major airport hubs across the country into the first weekend of this month.
> “Given the ongoing surge in Covid cases and related sick calls, we’ve been working with each of our major partners to proactively reduce our January schedules,” SkyWest said in a statement.
>The airline operates flights for United, Delta Air Lines, American Airlines and Alaska Airlines and said the pullback is intended to “ensure we’re able to adequately staff our remaining flying as we work to recover in the coming weeks.”

The coof truly fucked the ability to go from point A to point B safely and predictably.

>>18817952
does it matter where?
everyone will at least be able to travel to it

>>18817952
>where would they build it
Doesn't matter, it would be a 8000+ km flight for half of the ENs regardless of the location.

>>18818139
By the time any sort of 3D setup is done overseas, the lockdown would've been already over anon.

>>18817506
>And also too early for Hololive
Doesn't this line up with the current Hololive cadence though? When were HoloEN's made permanently open again?

>>18817952
Wouldnt it be cheaper to just fly the girls to Japan when they can instead? If they really wanna be frugal just have them bunker up with a JP girl for a week or so

>>18818433
The point is they can't go to Japan because Japan is being autistic about the meme virus.

>>18818351
It opened last month, anon, and according to them it takes two months before they'll decide on it. There's no way they got through the interview process and locked down talents a month after auditions opened, not to mention hololie talents don't graduate until three months ish before debut so this would imply that HoloEN3 is debuting in May, which is way too early

>>18816999
>WHY DO YOU HATE JUN AGAIN, LADS!?
cause he and his fans hate vtubers

>>18818522

>>18817506
>Too late for Hololive
That line of thinking doesn't really apply anymore with Holo switching to open auditions. Not like Yagoo needs to worry about talents getting poached since no one in their right mind is gonna trade the chance to being a Holo.

>>18817952
unrelated, but recently most of the EN girls are ''moving'' or whatever it is

>>18818522
>>18818563

>>18818481
They could though. They have been allowing 3000+ foreign nationals entry daily since last year anon. Tourism are banned though, and for good reasons

>>18818326
>the lockdown would've been already over anon.
Anon, this has been more than a year and Japan doesn't give a fuck about anyone outside of its borders. If they could, I'm pretty sure they would have gone back to permanently closed borders already.

>>18818563
>>18818522
>>18818611

>>18817680
>her SCs plummeted to hell
>Vox during his 300k subs celebration managed to snag an upwards of 20k while Chloe's 750k karaoke only managed 16k iirc
many holos can pick up Chloe's slack, say that to your talents, nijibros.

Is power washing a buff?

https://twitter.com/2434rankings/status/1495779535220252673
Oliver's birthday stream got over 4 MILLION yen which is the biggest of any stream in 2022 so far, holy shit

>>18818590
Only Ame is, actually

>>18818685
Mumei too

>>18818667
It triggers everyone's inner Dad

>>18818667
Not really, that's her usualish numbers

>>18818522
>>18818563
>>18818611
>>18818646

>>18818667
this is normal luna numbers anon, she has inclined to 4k-8k range by using the late timeslots

>>18816999
>>18818547
Does /#/ or the board hates him though? Most seems neutral towards him, definitely not hated here like nyanners/Nux/otakmori/vei/TT

>>18818671
fujo gotta fujo, the girls pump out so much money for their birthdays, it's amazing.

Chloe's viewer retention sure is impressive today

>>18818734
p sure nousagis hate him

>>18816999
If your oshi has ever had to deal with the absolute fucking dregs of society that are his garbage fucking fanbase then you'd understand why that faggot is hated

>>18818734
honestly besides the pekomemes and him being a measurement stick there isn't much reason to discuss him here. the drama of his retarded fans attacking vtubers (whenever that happens) is for the bait treads

>>18818734
He's hated mostly in the japanese sphere because his fans are famous for causing problems duing apex games and are pretty much the same fanbase who harrass chi chan and the like, and also he's incited his fanbase to go harrass people he doesn't like, particularly vtubers, and in fact he did the same thing with from software this time too. It just so happens that he's attacking a target we all don't like this time, but make no mistake, he's not on our side.

>>18817137
isn't as rare anymore

>>18818710
So does that mean I should watch Roberu for it? Or will Luna stream work?
t. holofan but never watched either

>>18818522
>>18818563
>>18818611
>>18818646
>>18818713

>>18818635
They closed business entry last year when the meme variants happened. They pretty much only let in Japanese nationals and a few hundred students at a time, and only reopened to foreign business travel this month.

>>18817390
Her SCs the past week has been really atrocious though.

>>18818739
Maybe they might considering watching his streams from time to time.

>>18818932
that's probably when cover was planning to fly them in to do their 3d but then they got cucked out of it so they finally bit the bullet and did their home3d thing or whatever it is they were doing for holofes3

>>18818523
True but June isn't out of the question. July seems realistic.

>>18818523
That doesn't mean that she somehow didn't end up being selected right off the bat for one of the spots and kneejerked herself out of Kawaii just in case that leads to some kind of conflict of interest.

>>18818740
Look’s like an ASMR stream that people just put up as background noise and fell asleep to

My God, you guys were horny.

If the algorithm promotes it that well, then maybe it is true that Russia is the greatest consumer of hentai in the world...

there's both a guy who really likes chloe and a guy who really hates her who frequent this thread and i want them to kiss

>>18817506
She was the runt of the new Kawaii gen. No chance she's Holo. Likely just didn't have the time and/or mindset for streaming regularly

This thread reeks of fish cunny

>>18819530
meant for >>18817054

>>18817238
Dudul(or someone claiming to be him) actually explained it. He said that youtube already pays animations shit for ad rev relative to effort, so it doesn't matter if it gets less views by putting the whole thing on Twitter or Reddit since he gets more 'eyes' and thus potential actual paying commissions/work as a result of putting the whole thing on Twitter vs whatever peanuts he would get from having.a short animation get a few hundred thousand more views. Regardless if it actually was him, the points stand, youtube pays absolute crap for shorter length content.

>>18819607
TuT

>>18819607
ToT

>>18819607

>>18819544
My lips will not kiss any filthy anti, just my even filthier fujo wife

>>18809478
God I fucking hate nijiniggers so much >>18813131

>>18819607
chloe isn't cunny tho

>>18819684
There people who can manage to do okay on YT with very, very simple animation styles but hand drawn takes forever. Very hard to make a return on your time. It's like trying to make a living with stop motion animation. Even with million of views if it takes 1000 hours to make a video the math just doesn't work out.

Some random korean dude used to make illustrations to an audience of 3 digits. Then

Makes a Marine
>2k+
Makes a Gura
>3.5k+
Makes a Calli
>1.7k+

He then moves to HoloX this week and makes a Koyori
>21k+
Makes a very loli Laplus
>56k+
and
>60k+
And a lewd Chloe
>19k+

There is clearly a HUGE market for illustrators that can BLOW UP out of nowhere if they pick the right timing and theme.

>>18819684
going off of the video critikal made. isn't the minimum length you need to get decent ad revenue is 30 secs

Did the other Q pick up views from people searching for Q?

>>18818954
She also made like 12k on a membership stream during the past week, it's not as bad as you're making it sound.

>>18820044
You can definitely make a name for yourself as an illustrator by using popular IP but you have to differentiate HL fans from your fans. Only a small fraction will still follow/support you/buy your shit if you go back to doing OC or less popular franchises. It's not impossible but it takes a lot of work. Then again if your work is popular you might get picked up for official work/corporate commissions. For a relevant example see Holobass' sperg out

>>18820044
For reference of how much is "60k+", Marine got 87k for her illustration of Koyori. This random bloke ballooned up somehow into three fourths of that

>>18820044
Illustrator gacha.

>>18820362
Lewds are cheating a little but even Ina only has a handful of over 100K illustrations. 50k+ an insane incline.

>>18820340
I am more amazed for the fact a random korean dude picked this much steam. There must be some outside influence there, like being famous in some other site, or becoming viral somehow

>>18820268
Doesn't show in my search results. So no

>>18820135
The main point of his video was that anything under 8 minutes will make near exponentially less than an 8+ minute video, and needs to be 10 mins to maximize payout per view.
A 3 min video doesnt get 30% the revenue per view of a 10 min video, it gets like 10%.

>>18818671
What's the runner-up?

>>18820437
I think her senchou artwork was retweeted by marine, that's what kickstarted his initial boost

>>18820044
Huge numbers of illustrators that you wouldn't expect are drawing Hololive fanart these days, the artist of last thread's OP image has been posting illustrations on the internet for nearly 20 years and mostly draws Holos now. It's up there with im@s and horse pussy as one of the current big 3 franchises for fanart

>>18820268
Here is mine, private window, unsigned

>>18820473
Rushia's birthday countdown at ¥3,371,933

Peko’s ‘comeback’ stream won’t even break 30k. She’s old a busted. Hyped up ASMR couldn’t even get 50k. She’s done. Should just graduate, not like it could beat Coco’s numbers since nobody would show up.

>>18820326
Even taking that into account, she's still behind Iroha that barely does gachikoi pandering

>>18820462
i was wrong it was this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvrbBz-8FBA
yeah obviously an 8-10 min vid will do better but its that once you make it to 30 secs you apparently get prerolll ads

>>18820268
I fucking hope so. The other Q is so much better and I'm not even a Nijinig.

>>18820532

>>18820572
Right, but its still 27k+ in SC in the past week. Defining it as atrocious (meaning extremely bad) is not accurate at all.

Does anyone remember that website that would let you see other youtube comments for a given user?

>>18818671
Will Chloe realistically get this much for her bday

I swear Hololive is just trying to see what else they can squeeze free money out of at this point
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hgxyjPAgvA

>>18820682
It's wesave.chat, bit it doesn't look like it captures all comments.

>>18820572
Chloe barely does gachikoi pandering, people see her numbers and assume she's "GFE" but she's really not that different to gozaru

>>18820499
Having a Holo acknowledge or retweet your art is a huge get for an illustrator. Even better if you become one of their pet artists and/or get hired for official Hololive projects. Somewhere there's a social media manager at Cover who is trying not to fly to American and strangle Gura for wasting her incredible social media clout I'm guessing.

>>18820724
i thought it would be songs but it's literally just 1 hour of crackling noises with an illustration

>>18820724
I like ideas like this as long as they don't overdo them. Why not? The fans will like it, it wasn't difficult to make, it's cute and on-brand.

>>18820724
free content for me. try playing it on your tv, it's an amazing bg

>>18820724
They're good at reading the current meta. I have one of those right now at my main TV, provides white noise and a nice background image for the living room
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTT-cgA0Clk

Crackling of the fire is mixed too loud tho, the idea is for the white noise to dominate and the crackling to break the monotony very softly

>>18820759
Is that the only one? I'm sure there was something more vtuber related that was posted here a while ago.

>>18818954
>>18820572
>>18820762
We like to joke about it but her stinky "schtick" might have turned off a lot of her initial paypigs for real.

>>18820709
Yeah definitely, it's in May so I doubt she'll have her 3D by then but looking at historical numbers I think that's actually a bonus, 3D streams get the big views but a regular stream where she can interact with the chat is likely to get her a little more money

>>18820340
Pseudo-gacha.
People have been asking for a Hololive gacha or another crossover for a while.

Yeah, OK, this is an absurdly good retention.

>>18820724
Meanwhile, at nijisanji HQ...

>>18820967
Now look at her chat activity

>>18820982
Wait, wrong pic

>>18820340
>For a relevant example see Holobass' sperg out
I would say for a really relevant non retarded example see Kay Yu going from a fan animator to being hired to make the animation for the latest hit by Caligura (Q)

>>18820982
What did anon mean by this post?

>>18820921
How has another Holo in game collab not happened yet? It would make so much damn money. They have to be aware so what are they waiting for? There's no shortage of JP based gachas

>>18821038
ugly mess

>>18821005
People STFU and are orderly watching her play the game?

>>18820982
>>18821038
topkek

>>18820982
A-Anon... !?

>>18820982
What the fuck

>>18821114
Man Hologra doesn't get enough respect. It churns out million view videos on the regular for the main channel

>>18817054
Honestly, if it weren't for topics, then Hololive would've gotten a high engagement on twitter too. It makes artist switch all the time just because niji gets high likes and retweet everytime, but it's more of a false front that it wouldn't do that much to you. They just like and retweet, but not remember your name and stuff. That's why I kinda disliked former Hololive artists that went into the nijiEN meme. They probably were asked by them too since it could be grow into a business opportunity.

>>18819684
>>18820135
>>18820462
>>18817238

Hey your friendly neighborhood animator faggot here with some analytics, I figured that might come in handy for the future estimates with short animations.

In short it's not worth it unless you find a way to keep posting 40-50s video weekly that does at least 500k each time which itself is really hard to achieve and you rely heavily on YT recommended algorithm. Hence I just do it for fun and the chubbas and don't care about YT revenue. If it comes to that I will start a patreon or some shit

>>18820982
>>18821038

>>18821308
oh hey it's Dudul! love your work btw

>>18821308
dudul fag in /#/ since the shark got gold, nice

>>18821308
lmao

>>18821308
damn that jump between 12 seconds and 40 seconds, holt shit

>>18821308
Look I know it's <20 sec but $20 for almost a million views? Fuck. $0.80 rpm around what I would've thought so that's not terrible. Thanks for the actual numbers in this blighted thread. Has the exposure resulted in more offers/increased commission rate? How many hours would you estimate it takes you per minute of animation?

>>18821308
based dudul with real data

>>18821308
you cooking something with the shark? come on, spit it out

>>18821308
only 1% difference in revenue per view ratio with 0:41 and 2 minute

>>18821308
Hey Dudul. Holy shit, $20 on just under a million views? That's crazy

>>18821500
Don't make the man break an NDA if he is, he's already showing us hard numbers as a favor.

>>18821308
Is this shit for real? You are here ?

>>18816999
I wish for his death every day.
Also celebrated when his dog died-

>>18821568
It looks legit Anon, I told ya dudul hangs around these parts. It also tracks with what we've been told by other creators, under 30s = absolute SHIT pay.

>>18821308
How much did YT pay for this? $100?

>>18821308
>If it comes to that I will start a patreon or some shit
That's the correct way to do it.

>do for the passion of the trade
>allow people to give you money if they choose to

>>18821634
based on his top post, my guess would be $200 haha

>>18821634
>17s
He got absolute peanuts for it.

>That Nijisanji EN girl from Ethyria had an one-two combo with a high production values karaoke/concert stream and a birthday stream the next day.
>The first one peaked at 11K viewers and was the highest CCV peak a Nijisanji EN girl has ever gotten outside of their debuts.
>The second one peaked at 6.6K viewers and was probably her second highest peak after the concert the previous day.
>She surely will incline from that. Nijisanji EN is going to grow more and more from now on!
>I am gonna check her stream today!

>pic

Oh, no... Oh, no no no...

>>18821634
>LoliGura
says the suit

>>18821418
>>18821634
Boom baby is 3 sec long, got 5.3kk views and made $75.19 lol
Beach made $370.12

>>18821482
I did get a few offers for little bits and stuff like twitch alerts, for now i decline all of them but lets just say I wouldn't push for twitter as much if it didn't work. Hololive really did open a lot of doors for me.
Next week i officialy quit my thumbnail work for Delirious and i want to dedicate next 2 months give myself a proper improvement training - we'll see how it goes after that

>>18821663
oh yea i defo will just keep it 2-5$ and just previews

>>18821755
No need to shit on the nijis anon. Every time one of them breaks 10k on a mega buff stream they dream themselves the new face of EN vtubing. It'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

>>18821308
How do you feel about this place?

>>18821755
to be fair to nijinogs, it's a sc reading stream

>>18821755
Damn, that's really good for a Enna superchat reading stream.

>>18821796
$75 for 5.3m
damn

>>18821796
Godspeed Dudul, I really hope this springsboards you into success

>>18821796
should've accepted that raid shadow legends 2-min ads haha

>>18821796
Animation is just so criminally underpaid across the industry, get those Holo bucks while you can man. You deserve it and who knows what the future holds?

>>18821796
I think the patreon is a good idea. I'd bet you'd get a good amount of uptake, people want to support content creators making stuff they enjoy

Here is every Hologra

>106 videos
>A little over 3 hours of content
>244M views between them

A couple of videos got ganked and are not available on Youtube but that should give the general idea.

Based on what Dudul is showing at >>18821308 they made north of 200k USD on Hologra alone.

Not bad for a MMD animated weekly shitpost

>>18821308
never ceases to amaze how useless shorts are

>>18822097
30s shorts is the sweet spot, anything below is advertisement

>>18822070
let me copy your homework

>>18822070
On the one hand, that's decent money for relatively low effort shorts. But even low effort 3d animation is not cheap, like at all. It's usually priced by the minute so even at $1k/minute (waaaaay below market rates) they probably haven't made a ton of profit off it. But it is a great promotional tool and helps the algorithm.

>>18822097
Shorts exist solely as a method of exposure sub 30s since they pay for absolute shit. Over 30s you might make at least a little bit per vid.

>>18821796
>>18822046
>people want to support content creators making stuff they enjoy
The very existence of vtubers should be proof for that, people are DESPERATE for good content and they rather poll their money to keep their favorite content creators running than having to go back to Hollywood, Netflix and LA music industry for content that is not even targeted at them anymore

Just don't forget to read the fine print and stay in the clear side of Hololive Fan work guidelines
https://en.hololive.tv/terms
so you don't end up Holobassing yourself in the process

Now I know the reason why he stopped making them anymore

>>18821308
Love ya man, hope you dont get too much shit for selfposting so blatantly.

>>18821308
Sweatshopping one minute animations every week for 500-1000 bucks in ad revenue is not a bad deal, it's like having a median wage job.

>>18822300
Patreon is still on the hobbyist level, realistically unless he starts uploading his work on a paywalled platform there's no way to run afoul of the fanwork guidelines as an animator

>>18822200
>It's usually priced by the minute so even at $1k/minute (waaaaay below market rates) they probably haven't made a ton of profit off it.
They're using an entirely in house workforce meaning they're down on the wages, time and materials only.

They're definitely not putting in 1k/minute in this be it on the animation, voice acting or translation

>>18822384
seems volatile as fuck tho

>>18821796
do Gura encourages you bts? Ik Gura is one of the, if not the most, nonvocal about her supporters or whatever you call it, does that side of her affect you?

>>18822300
Holobass and the Smol Ame guy really went out of their way to shoot themselves in the foot. Tons of Holo fanartists not only have Patreons or the equivalent they do paid commissions of Holos on the regular. Just shut the fuck up and get paid, it's not hard. Just shut up about credit, or ego, or rights, or who deserves what and no one will care.

>>18822384
Nah, animations is still hard work. With this, we can estimate how much clippers make from viral low-effort videos. Just 2 minutes worth of content probably earnt them $50+.

>>18822200
They are using in house staff for this so their animators are probably salaried workers instead of commision based. Also if I understand correctly it started as a passion project by their 3d guys who found themselves with alot of free time after youtube clamped down on swimsuits so I really doubt they were paid market rates for this.

>>18822385
>>18822462
>Just shut the fuck up and get paid, it's not hard.
Yep. Both those blokes wanted one extra thing that they can't really get
>getting acknowledgement as "equals" with the people doing official work for the company

>>18822365
not the first time hes done it. hes posted WIPs in hlgg and ggg before.
>>18822384
going off of the two that are over 30 secs he got about $0.0008 per view which i feel could be a bit volatile if that's your only source of income

>>18822462
>smol ame
you mean the game dev? or walfie?

>>18822555
the game dev.
To be fair to him it sounded like he was out of a job and was stressing about paying rent that month. As someone who's been in that position before that is not exactly condusive to thinking clearly.

>>18822548
>a bit volatile if that's your only source of income
Thus the idea of combining it with a Patreon. Patreon paying the bills = more time to animate = longer animations = better ad revenue? Virtuous cycle?

>>18822454
To be fair, DuDul is perhaps her most know artist and she has acknowledged him on stream several times.

>>18822555
Game dev. got assmad that Ame hadn't reached out to him for any sort of official work and was on a one-way trip to MENHERABREAKDOWN town until enough people told him he was being a menhera idiot and he snapped out of it.

>>18822555
game dev
https://web.archive.org/web/20211221023400/https://twitter.com/KevinCow/status/1473118232110411780
https://twitter.com/KevinCow/status/1473151999327801346?s=20
it looked like he was just in a bad spot financially

>>18822618
As Mori has so amply demonstrated, venting on Twitter is almost never a good idea. But Smol Ame was popular because it was HL related and had HL music. The game itself wasn't anything special, was basically a teenagers 2nd or 3rd Unity game. Had to suck watching other fan creators get to work directly with the girls and get paid for it though.

>>18822626
Drawing lewds of Holos is also a stable income if you hide them under a patreon

>>18822670
yeah, DuDul for animations, and Shouu for fanarts

>>18822070
>>18822189
>let me copy your homework
Here is the recipe to get that data

1) Open the channel on the videos tab in either Chrome or Firefox (I don't know if this would work on the other browsers, may work if they have a similar Developers Toolbar)
2) Scroll scroll scroll scroll scroll until it opens all videos
>don't sort it, youtube puts a limit on sorted lists on 200 videos or so
3) Press F12 to open the developers toolbar
4) Paste this incantation on the Console tab while chanting "HAAAAAACHAMA SUUUUNDAY, HAAAACHAMA CHAMACHA" (to the tune of Haachama Sunday anthem)
> var arr = []; for (var doc of document.getElementsByTagName("ytd-grid-video-renderer")) { if (!((doc.innerText.match(/anime/i)))) { arr.push(doc); }}; for (var doc of arr) { doc.remove(); };

This will keep only the videos with "anime" in the title. it works for any channel on Youtube and for other searches too, just replace "anime" with "milfs", for instance, if that's what rocks your boat.

Here is an even more general advice
1) learn regular expressions, they're used everywhere, even in this lowly site (on the filter stuff)
2) learn the basics of element selection on javascript. Not some framework stuff, just the basic getElementsByTagName, getElementsById and the likes
3) take meds

>>18822618
>>18822671
>>18822714
>>18822722
I thought it was just a passion project. There are other game devs who just make HL games for fun like HL mario kart, Myth RPG etc. I considered those as practice runs and all, while also getting free exposure. Why does this things happen to ame all the time...

>>18820724
That full illustration + Live2D motion could straight cost well over 1k$.
The video has ads, but no mid rolls, so they'll probably be making it back eventually.

>>18822722
>As Mori has so amply demonstrated,
Gura as an example, Mori as a counterexample, Rushia as the ultimate nuclear button of
>LOOK AT THAT, DON'T LOOK AWAY, THAT'S YOU IN FIVE MONTHS!

any # on putin's speech?

>>18821038
I don't like how much Leaver Gatcha has declined.
It was a staple of the industry!

>>18820724
definitely working, time flew

>>18822878
It was just a passion project, but then he ran into money issues and started looking back at all the time and effort he put into the game for free and thought to himself "If only every single person just gave me a single dollar that'd make my life alot easier" and that when he started becoming resentful of his passion project.

>>18822878
It was a passion project I'm sure. I'd imagine he just got a little jealous of seeing creators like Kanauru, Farhan, etc become regular paid contributors to HoloEN where he wasn't. The thing he should have realized, though, is that talents like 3d animation, music, VRChat model creation and coding, etc, are all much more directly useful to streamers than 2d platformer creation. He made an Ame fan game, and Ame is all about streaming and very focused on it.

>>18818781
I don’t. Nowadays he regret saying he was dating Pekora because shitposter still pestering him about it and his wife really doesn’t like it
But he started it so now there’s nothing he can do

>>18822988
This already has 106K views. Interesting

>>18822901
there's no one single stream so it's hard to say, but I'm seeing about 30k ish

>>18822901
>any # on putin's speech?
kek

WHO WOULD WIN THIS HEAD TO HEAD FIGHT!?

> THE MOST POWERFUL LEADER OF THE SLAVIC WORLD, ARMED WITH A NUCLEAR ARSENAL AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND OF TROOPS HOLDING THE EASTERN BORDER OF THE EUROPEAN SPHERE OF INFLUENCE UNDER CONSTANT PRESSURE
>the anniversary of a humble group of idols whose claim to fame is to be the AKB48 designated rivals

OTBET УДИBИT BAC!

>>18823003
pretty sure there were better way to handle it. there are sites where you can leave a tip/donation to a person and he didn't have to monetize the game just go "hey i am in financial trouble and would appreciate a donation" and let his fame do the rest

>>18823101
>Can't even get 100k on declaration of WW3
Is Putin-chan reclining?

>>18823101
Can't even beat Aki or Choco this month and he's a head of state addressing the UN? Graduation when?

>>18821634
>Almost 5 million views
The internet has more lolicons people give credit for

>>18821102
To be fair all the big gachas are doing just fine on their own: Arknights, Genshin, or even FGO itself. It’s all the shit low tier gacha that need the handicap and those small gacha dev usually can’t afford something as big as Hololive

>>18823168
yeah he could've started a paypal donation button or even set up a patreon, but instead he went and sperged out instead

>>18823101
ukraine bros, oh nyo

>>18823101
>>18823155
https://playboard.co/en/live
russian streams are beyond a million combined
yet, aside from russia, no one seems to give a shit.
how do we save putin?
what should he do to expand into foreign market?

>>18823252
Putin-Biden rivalry arc. Just need Biden to reply to him

btw if you think vtuber chats are bad you haven't seen nothing yet

>129$
well still higher than 103.50 i guess...

>>18823252
Well, Russians are the ones who are gonna get their kids blown up by landmines, matters more to them.

>>18823297
Bro it’s fucking /pol/ shit, arguably the only thing worse than /vt/ on 4chan

I thought organizing raids was against site rules.

Numbers

>>18823355
Look vt is vt but it's better than pol. That's like walking over a bar that's not just on the ground, but buried 2 feet deep

>>18823410
>HAPPENED OFFSTREAM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>18823410
how many 1m sub youtubers does holo have now

>>18823410
congrats to >oona
Hope we get some lewd art from it.

>>18823410
That should've been Risu.....

>>18823365
Anon, the sooner you figure these two things out the better you’ll understand this site, the old /b/ rules are the only rules for every non dysfunctional board in this site

1) There are no rules
2) There are no rules for mods either so enjoy your ban

There may be rules on paper but as enforcement is lax and uneven the ACTUAL rules are these two above.

>>18823410
congrats to Moona
Hope we get some lewd art from it.

>>18823410
welcome to millionaire club Moona

>>18823101
>mogged by Luxiem
Rushia and Russia reclining

>>18823410
that's 25 channels with over a million subs if you include the main hololive channel and coco's dead channel

Kiara talking about how commissioning instrumentals is $200-300. WTF? A KFP would make it for free at the drop of a hat.

>>18823410
>All these 1-2k streams
Is this the true queen of dead subs?

>>18823410
Hmm, why does mine still said she is 999k ?

>>18823658
she needs to hold 'contests' like Haachama

>>18823584
Alright then, have fun trashing Holofags reputation with your blatant raid posting while having 0 proof that Nijifags struck Hololive vods down.

Kiara you dummy of course your fans will make instrumentals for you for free. How can this possibly be a revelation for you? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>18823769
What are you even replying to?

>>18823410
Ollie btfo

>>18823691
Data takes time to synch worldwide.

>>18823297
I don't see any COME TO BRAZIL comment, i'd say its 50/50

>Vei 7k
>shylilly 6k
Times are changing...

are we that bored?

>>18823769
>>18823820
kek, he must be reading back the shitpost about permissions and got spooked.

Don’t worry anon, anyone raiding will false flag as JunFags to cover their tracks

so who's the next 1m, i remember pretty clearly like 2 or 3 months ago people saying ollie was gonna get it before moona but she seems to have stalled hard, and shion isn't streaming enough to get subs faster
there's also towa who's growing faster than ollie and shion
at current trends it could get interesting

>>18824050
i rember during ccvid, veibae and nyanners were proclaimed the new cummings. what happen

or is the mice eating up views?

>>18824056
it's normal luna numbers anon

>>18823410
zombiefags absolutely seething after repeating that "ollie will overtake moona in a few months"

>>18824106
Toss up between shion and Ollie, depending on stream activity.

>>18824116
nyanners and mouse are still doing fine, vei just kneecapped herself pretty hard by basically being sodapoppin's gf now and shittalking the orca

>>18824106
Clearly its the invincible extremely popular vtuber Yokohama Lumi

>>18824116
vei trashed the western orca, got backlash from it.

>>18824188
900k to 1m is the new gacha

>>18824188
Tower, time to start the cross branch mini Apex tournament.

>>18823879
I see, well congratulations to her. The universe is kinda funny for always have her reach milestone offstream.

Is veibae being smug in the pekora character way or is she just an unlikable dramawhore

>over 6k people are still watching luna power washing at 5AM

>>18824366
both, but it comes off as the second one like 60% of the time

>>18823658
>>18823817
Read between the lines, she wants to avoid requesting free instrumentals directly because it's expected that for someone as big as she is pays fair market rate. I don't think she would say no to instrumentals from her fans. But she carefully avoided saying she could go to fiverr or to small musician channels and commission instrumentals for $50, because it would be a bad look for someone as profitable as she is.

>>18824188
wasn't towa going to be on a tourney, could help

>>18824106
At current monthly trends it's Ollie, weekly trends Towa

>>18824440
it's vsaikyou, though, not some kind of outsider tourney. She won't get very much of an incline from that, maybe 5k ish at best.

>>18824430
And rightfully so. Some random paypig will give her 500$ a day, you're telling me she can't fund a few instrumentals?

>>18824369
Is powerwash an actual buff lmao? I always thought it was one of these games that is relaxing for the streamer but boring for the viewers

>>18821755
She did get 6k subs in 24 hours, which is really good for a Niji female.

>>18824489
No she could but what's the point in spending a grand on instrumentals for a karaoke when she does fine without them?

>>18824504
Any game that is actually dull means zatsu. Zatsus are buffs.

>>18824188
What's Sora's 1M stream gonna be?

>>18822200
These get so many views and a big algorithm push they're basically just advertising that also happens to earn some money to offset whatever it costs.

>>18822718
>>18822718
>>18822718
OH NO THE SCARY NUMBERS THREAD STRIKES FEAR INTO NIJINIGGERS YET AGAIN

>>18824668
i can't believe people took that shitpost seriously, /#/ could barely even get their ass up during fucking ccvid

>>18824668
Stop trying to derail the thread when we're actually on-topic for once retard, nobody cares

>>18824106
Probably Ollie but if Towa can pulled some big events, maybe she can catch up.

>>18824668
>anti thread
>their liver get numbers, thrashes the thread
the iron-y

>>18824668

>>18824050
Did vei stop sucking soda's dick to get raids?

>>18824604
12 hour totsu with everyone from the industry calling in.

>>18824106
i heard that word since Christmas 2020

>>18824668
Nijiniggers quake in fear now that the boot is on the other foot.
You love to see it

>>18824896
Shylily stole some of them, some of them probably fucked off due to her erratic streaming, and the rest are locked in Ironmouse's basement.

>>18824604
ankimo outfit reveal

Hime rules at these hours.

>>18824598
but luna rarely speaks anything. she just silently... washes.

>>18825038
imagine losing to a fucking baby

>>18825038
reimu...

>>18825038
>Varorant
kek

>>18824760
Oh, and if you needed evidence that nijifags are literal snowflakes.
>>18823894
>>18823256

>>18825038
VOMS....

>>18825059
Anon, her other usual streams at this hour were piano and electone.
People just listen to the baby's noises.

>>18825038
>Ryugon
I sweared this dude used to get 500-600, but apparently it literally was just because of Ark

Looking at Reimu's numbers, I wonder how she feels about new waves coming in every couple of months.

I really feel bad for low tier Nijisanji streamers...

>>18824198
Veibae is doing better than Nyanners, they both fell off hard this month though

>>18825083
She's been talking about shojo manga for 30min.
Let her be, she's having fun.

>>18825125
It's idiots like you that give this thread a bad name everywhere else. With fans of literally every company. "This company is good" this company is bad" all day. All night. Completely unrelated to anything in the actual thread. Just fuck off.

>>18825258
cope seethe and dilate

>>18825231
Maybe she should go on twitch and stream in Spanish or something.

>>18825234
it seems nyanners is suffering from lack of streams, classic example of what happens

>>18825300
Speaking of that, I wonder how her numbers would be if she actually streamed her spic content on twitch.

>>18824760
>i can't believe people took that shitpost seriously, /#/ could barely even get their ass up during fucking ccvid
kek

>Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.

>>18825234
>>18825309
I see nyanners is way more in Mousey's stream, but she barely streams herself for some reason.
Everyone else that pops in usually streams their side too.

>>18824760
>>18825413
you love to see them nijiniggers quake in their boots

>>18822714
>Does software
>No job, no savings
How a dev can end up in that kind of financial situation in this market is beyond me.

>>18824188
Imaginbe being in Hololive and not having 1 million subs. I imagine that weighs on some people.

>>18825289
>>18825472
the absolute state of nijisnowflakes

Pekora will play ARK to 15k as her return after a week long break.

toya only 28k kek easy gold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epPYcIwJ5aQ

>>18825613
he should stream more

>>18823658
haachama gets one of the most amazing covers and anything she wants for free through her contests, she even showed how niche she can go with her rap contest, and she's even going for something more niche with her 4 koma manga contest, which is pretty much for her jp fans only because 90% of english fans don't know what 4 koma means

>>18825510
Wastes all his time on Hololive and is presumably a massive sperg

>>18823665
>queen of dead subs
anon, that's Gura

>>18825613
Not set in stone. If it's a solo live I can see it not hitting 30k

>>18825941
ahem

>>18825574
Big doubt. She will most probably put her frame on 2200 JST to catch the funnel from Okayu's birthday live, that's what she usually do anyway.

>>18825950
She has 9 guests

Our fearsome reputation has every nijinigger scared shitless. Every night nijinigger mothers tuck thier kids in with the warning that unless they behave, the notorious numberfags will rise from the depths of the numberthread to shit on their feelings.

>>18825655
While singing KING on a deserted island!

>>18825984
Too many, it will have diminishing returns. Choco got 60k so maybe that is in the ballpark.

>>18826060
>>18826060
>>18826060
nijiniggers truly are fragile snowflakes

>>18825966

>>18826069
75k is my prediction.

>>18826247
Her birthday live got 80k last year.

>>18826087
Fuck off Joe no one cares

>>18826323
Nice try Joe

>>18826334
I don't remember writing this post.

>>18821308
>>18821796
love your work man, godspeed with whatever it is you plan to do

>>18823003
Imagine running into money issues as a software developer

>>18823012
A pro dev is too expensive to sustain for several months to make some sort of short game.
Hololive won't work with any amateur doing fanwork either. The can only work with professionals.

>>18817215
Ty, I appreciate it.

>>18825234
guess they'll do a subathon too for the coming months? what a great streaming platform Twitch is kek

>>18825759
Haachama is built differently tho, she fosters Haaton creativity by putting their output on stream, off stream (in her shorts) and everywhere else.
Here is how deep fan content go for Haachama

Her OP?
Haaton (or at least a HoloFan) made the song (REDALICE, no introduction needed)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3KvMgoA1C4
Haaton made the animation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS1olSvk0lU

Her Outro?
Haaton made the song (also RedAlice)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vo4Dgl5dqw
Haaton made the animation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlaLSxJxDno

Her 1st single?

Haaton made the MV (which became her alternative OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxm-Oxgl6r4

Haaton made an alternative remix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHLvaKX_3Ms
Haaton made an 8bit MV to go with the above mentioned remix (which is also used by her as an alternative intro / outro)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTyp63pA1cA

Pretty much every asset she uses in her streams and VODs, be it songs, animations for intro / outro, illustrations and everything else is Haaton made and that makes them want to make even more.

>>18823155
wtf I've never even heard of them, how are they getting 300k?

>>18826530
the same way Nijisanji got so many EOPs even before nijiEN, hipsters supporting the less popular brand because it makes them feel like they are cool

>>18826672
>>18826672
>>18826672
they are really seething bros...

>>18824668
fucking kek, my shitposts have them quaking in their boots lmao
nijiniggers are so fragile

>>18826530
They are the idol group under the same agency of akb48, and now in it's prime after akb48 lose their influence iirc.

>>18823012
He was upset that Ame didn't commission him for making 3D models when his work with the small Ame game didn't really display those talents.

>>18826714
they are still quaking right now kek

>>18825231
Just get even more close to Vox

Fuck off with your gay little thread war.

>>18826966
cope seethe and mald nijikek

>5+ hour game stream
>10k ccv
>not even $2k SC
Chloefags explain yourselves

>>18826911
Vox and Reimu reminds me of Fubuki and Oga, where they have a sibling-like relationship.
Just like Fubuki and Oga tho, Reimu drags Vox down more than Vox pulls her up.

>>18826869
I remember being just a little jealous when Ame would just offhandedly refer to him as seafoam and talk about how closely they worked together, and he was getting paid too. I think the envy just got to him

>>18827003
She didn't read them because she's retarded pls understand, and it's not really a "zatsudan game" nor did she beat it (I'm not even sure if that's possible) which are the two times which game streams get good SC during the game segment

>>18825613
I'm gonna be bold and say, it's gonna be 100k

>>18826492
she and Coco were the absolute Queens of using fan work to create new content.
Ame could probably be up there if her tummy didn't hort every week.

Also, I remember Calli attempted to do a music creation stream early on, I guess that never got the views she expected? It was pretty interesting at the time.

Nice, Bae's 2nd cover made it over 500k.

>>18820724
was this what they had sana work on?

>>18826704
This thread is hilarious. The numberchad makes them quake just by merely existing.

>>18821308
love your work man

>>18820982
so this is a modification of a wagashi pic right? Haven't found this itself on any of the galleries or his fantia.

>>18827289
no, sana was probably working on the 6 month anniversary merch for council

>>18827095
dunno man, very few get 100ks for their 3D lives
even ayame with her rarity buff capped at 99k while rushia got a 98k, only peeps like marine or pekora get those numbers
like, both fubuki and korone got 70ks on theirs
a 70k sounds like a pretty nice goal for okayu

>>18827274
Great performance and crushed her first cover in a fraction of the time. I also think that this could be a situation where the numbers are misleading. Songs get a good.portion of their views from looping. This is not a loop friendly song. However everybody who listened to it was blown away.

I have a feeling with the hype she gathered from that cover combined w8th the fact that she has been shilling her original song for an entire month. Her original will do very well.

>>18827089
Fair, but her green hell stream earlier this month got her $3k. This looks like a -50% recline to me not gonna lie.

>>18827289
It's uncredited so that's possible, not entirely sure on the artstyle tho. Sana have a pretty distinct style at coloring eyes that I just doesn't see here