/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>18819095
>still doesnt say theyre going to let the chuubas stream their games

Cover won't do it unless they're given explicit permission. They don't even dabble in blanket permissions anymore.

>>18819095
I can't read this

>>18819218
rough tl
>an incorrect statement about streaming permissions was issued we are sorry
>you are allowed to stream the game
>we are working on revised guidelines

>>18819194
>They don't even dabble in blanket permissions anymore.
Why? Did something recent happen?

>>18819445
china

>>18819445
They have extreme Japanese corporate autism and need everything explicit in writing so that there's literally no way antis and sperg game devs have any ammunition against them.

>>18819786
This should be enough permission, right? What if fromsoft sent an email specifically to cover with this tweet?

>>18819194
does this something have to do with Gura being not permitted from playing the game despite the devs already explicitly allowing everyone to stream their game?

>>18819983
They literally need a handwritten letter that says "You, Cover Corp. have permission to stream and monetize our game", signed by the CEO, in blood.

>>18819983
>>18820181
jp corps dont play nice around eachother because theres no fair use defence for DMCA under jp law

strictly speaking there isnt anything stopping holos from streaming elden ring, but if kadokawa turns around and strikes their streams then thats them suspended for a month

>>18819445
When the West Taiwan yab happened they got assfucked by Chinese publishers.

>>18819455
>>18820456
They got autistic about permissions because of Capcom stiking Mio, which was months before China nonsense.

>>18820456
the DMCA blitz was a solid 3-4 months before the taiwan yab

>>18819095
Translation? I cant read chinese.

>>18819786
To be fair, this is only because Capcom decide to go back and strike a six month old stream of a game nobody even remembers. Stopping just short of getting Mio’s channel straight up terminated, I’d also want express written permission to defend against that shit.

>>18819324
At least try to be better than google TL

>>18819218
They can stream console game using console streaming features only... for now.
They are working on an update to these permissions.

>>18819194
I wouldn't trust blanket permissions either. I remember when the firewatch devs threatened to sue pewdiepie for streaming their game when it became trendy to attack him to virtue signal. Even though their website stated that anyone could stream it and that they decided to join the dogpile almost a year after he had played it. He just pulled the VOD.
Don't trust fucking game devs, every single one of them is a piece of shit that might backstab you to satiate the Twitter mob.

>>18820865
Even in the situation with Firewatch the devs told PDP to stop streaming their game. Blanket permissions work fine because the devs will typically contact you beforehand to say "hey stop streaming our game" otherwise you'd be able to challenge it.

>Nijikekbros
Nijisanji livers had plans to stream it. Were you reading retard EOPs from /#/ again saying Nijisanji wouldn't stream it? Yashikizu and Shachou are playing it the second it drops, and Hayama will surely marathon it.

>>18820510
No, that started the chain and made them care about getting permissions, but Muse Dash etc. was what made them only accept individual Cover permissions rather than just accepting blanket ones.

>>18821342
woosh

>>18821094
KEK no. They outright said they'd strike him, months after he streamed it. It was textbook virtue signaling. Same shit as the chink companies giving blanket permissions to everyone but hololive.
Don't trust game devs.

>>18821342
> Hayama will surely marathon it.
God I can’t fucking wait.

>>18821342
Tweet days they can only use built in console streaming. Will be funny if 3/4 if the game is blocked like certain Jap games.

>>18820443
strictly speaking, the US' preexisting "fair use" rules are the only reason the DMCA isn't just as draconian. if the mouse and others had their way about it, those extant rules would get purged in the name of trying to make sure nobody comes in contact with anything without paying for it first.

Hi Calli, you still won't get symphony of the night or atlus permissions

>>18821539
It is a fucking souls game not a VN.

>>18819095
>Nijikekbros you were saying?
mind reminding me what """we""" were saying exactly?

Did people already forget the copyright debacle years back that nuked several Hololive channels? I'm pretty sure Japan doesn't have a fair use law like we have in the US so they have to jump through more hoops for permission.

If I was a game dev, I'd just give the okay if someone asked and be done with it and if I didn't like them I'd just plainly say no since I've got other things to worry about than who plays and monetizes my game.

>>18819095
>Our support has mistakenly told some curious users that uploading videos of or streaming our properties is forbidden. We apologize for the misunderstanding.
>The current guidelines allow all recording and streaming using the in-built functions of the gaming platforms. We are also working on changes to our guidelines which we will reveal within the coming days. They will be introduced with the update, so please be patient.
What am I supposed to see here?

>>18821749
game devs are notoriously petty, especially the indie ones, since they tend to be in THOSE CIRCLES

>>18821870
OP thinks this means hololive now has permissions.

>>18821870
he got screenshot of moonrunes which he cant read himself, but someone told him it will own the evil evil nijiniggers real good!

>>18821667
I wish I had as much faith in bandai namco as you do. Won't be surprised if the entire game is blocked past the tutorial.

>>18822029
It is
a
souls
game
not
a
visual
novel

>>18819194
>They don't even dabble in blanket permissions anymore.
I know you aren't bullshiting because some of HoloEN have mentioned this before but its gotta be only half true. They still play Valve games for example, and on Valves policy page for streaming/monetizing/other related shit they specifically say to not bother contacting them for explicit written permissions because they wont answer such requests. Though maybe Valves a special case because they will let you do pretty much anything and are notorious for being lenient with their IP's sometimes even to a fault (DoTA is the only exception). Cover might also just be less anal about permissions for western games.

>>18822216
Cool argument nigga. Persona dancing all night is a fucking rhythm game. Yet the entire thing is blocked. Jump force, a fucking fighting game by bandai namco, blocked.

>>18819095
>>18821870
Holoniggers were planning on mass reporting Nijis, I guess they were already sending emails, funny enough that this just kills their whole retarded plan.

>>18821626
>mori will never turn into a gassy mist
you outplayed yourself

>Cover has corpo autism when dealing with other companies
>Cover also lets people do anything they want with Hololive content

>>18822718

>>18822718
Nijis don't even monetize their Souls streams lmao.

>>18821341
Didn't those China companies just revoke their permissions? Having written permission doesn't prevent that. They didn't strike Cover or anything just told them "you don't have permission anymore".

>>18822718
holy shit numbers truly is the anti thread

>>18822946
>people do anything they want with Hololive content
mafumafu took that to heart

>>18822718
That general should have been banned a long time ago

>>18822718
The best part about this is the Hololive content strike happened to 1 member first only instead of some mass report thing. Some game Mio played where the devs were anal. So the company (immaturely) hid everything out of fear. But /vt/ posters, being unable to take jokes, read that Nijifags did it but actually believed it and repeat it to this day.
Instead of, you know, taking a second to understand how Nijifags are supposedly so strong to report bomb everything and succeed, when there are fanbases 10x the size of NijiHolo combined who hate some random ass Youtuber but can't mass report them? Lol

>>18822718
The schizo thread we had a while back was probably filled entirely with /#/ posters.

>>18823266
I still can't believe people thought that was because of some antis and not because hololive was at worst lying about their talents being individuals as opposed to corporate streamers, and at best completely misunderstanding there's a difference between someone working on their own and someone being paid to stream. It was a grave of their own digging and I'm shocked it took so long for them to get caught when pretty much everyone else was following the rules.

>>18823294
Regular schizos just come to # a lot because it's easier to bait people there. There's two parallel groups on that thread, the people actually discussing streams, vtubers ect and schizos/trolls that just bait and samepost to their own shit all day.

>>18823381
Because Hololive dindu nuffin wrong.

>>18822718
JESUS CHRIST HOLY RENT FREE

>>18823237
I mean, you could get a collection of schizo posts from any fast general if you wanted to.

>>18823472
I'd honestly argue for them if they had actually actively tried to get videos back up, but they went about it so slow not a single member of Hololive has 90% of their videos back yet.

>>18823765
/#/ has been consistently bashing daily on anything niji related since it became a regular thing

>>18823765
most generals may have some schizos but never before have i seen a general actually try to coordinate a raid/harassment campaign
and i have already seen this twice with numbers

>>18823266
this 2bh, the amount of bullshit even the top vtubers have to deal with is no where near what the really big youtubers have to deal with DAILY.
The amount of dislikes guys like pewdiepie get on average is higher than 90% of holomen's CCV
Do you think their antis havent tried this stuff before?

>>18823765
Yeah, but it's numbers. It's a thread literally built on the backs of people who believe quality is directly tied to a number on the screen. You couldn't find an easier recipe for schizofarming on this board if you tried, and that's saying something because you can boil down this entire thing to
>weebs watching moving chinese cartoons that talk back to them

>>18823901
You don't get it anon, the Nijifags are just THAT scary and powerful, they're keeping the man down, like a shadowy organization!

>>18823892
It feels like it got worse after Luxiem came around and started entering their daily top lists fairly regularly.

>>18823901
I agree with you but to be fair Youtube probably has a hidden whitelist of "people who can't be report trolled because they make us way too much money/are the face of the site". There is no way Pewdiepie will ever get his channel auto-deleted even if someone sends a million cheese pizza reports, but send 100 to like... DeceasedCrab and it's over.

>>18824065
Some of them really thought Chinese Hololive antis were botting Luxiem to get back at Hololive. When in reality, they just have a lot of Chinese fujos. /#/ is genuinely mentally ill

>>18824093
Not even Pewdiepie. How many highly disliked dramafag channels exist? There's an ocean of internet fights on that site. But you're telling me Hololive is the only one who got reported? What about Junfags, where the fuck were they?

>>18823892
People go there and bait stuff about Niji (and Vshoujo) to make people mad. People respond back talking shit about Niji. Endless cycle.

>>18823978
# isn't about quality it's about discussing the performance of vtubers.

>>18822718
>Literal zhang tactics

>>18824377
It's about Holo surpemecy. The regulars hate it when someone is mentioning an indie that is exploding (there were some Spanish speaking ones that are), or small corpos that have members that are being catapulted.

>>18824377
Except they're massively uninformed, so wtf are they discussing?

>>18824377
Except its not and the thread has a meltdown everytime a niji has more viewers than a holo girl, especially if its a big event for them.
Its literally just an anti thread.

>>18823266
>some game where the devs were anal
yeah sure Capcom is just "some dev" who was notified by someone who wasnt nijiniggers I am sure

Nijiniggers quake in fear now that the boot is on the other foot.
You love to see it

>>18824765
Yes schizochama the voices in your head are very valid.

>>18824565
>>18824572
>>18824609
Literally just trolls. Actually come and discuss stuff instead of just skimming and reacting to bait.

For Spanish, people keep shilling non-vtubers like the Knuckles guy, so people got tired of it and started tell them to fuck off.

>Only allowed to stream using the console features
why are from soft so fucking stupid?

>>18824271
and then you got situations like that guy who got 150 of his vids deleted because Toei SIMPLY SAID SO. Its obvious that corps' voice have more weight than all the user reporting that can be processed by bots.

>>18824920
I mean, you can easily guess why they thought this is a good idea: consoles have stable spec as opposed to PC's varied configurations, now they have ground to claim any video that paints the game in a bad light perfornance-wise

>>18824911
It's just trolls bro, who cares if they break containment under videos and tweets like the massive fucking newfags they are, crawling in here from Facebook dox circlejerk groupchats

>>18824911
It isn't just the comments you do get, but what you don't get. They don't care about numbers more so than Holo numbers crushing everything else. You bring someone that isn't Niji or Holo and at best you get are those "troll" posts most of the time. Most of the times it is ignored because it is the Holo supremacist thread. You'd need to be lucky to find someone else willing to discuss other corpos when brought up.

>>18825289
They love Hal and VSPO

Holoshit won't be streaming this

>>18825392
No shit Sherlock

>>18821342
Nina and Vox too.

>>18825388
How does one love a vtuber they do not watch or understand? They shat on Sumire by the way, larp as unicorns, and want Nose to get more sick for numbers sake

>>18824235
That dumb rrat was born when people discussed a blog that apparently said holo antis were spamming this board and other social medias with nijien astroturfing threads filled with anti holo sentiment, who knows how true any of it is though

>>18825392
Of course not enjoy your Nintendo and MC.

>>18824911
Unless you're talking about holo numbers any attempt of discussing whatever caused [vtuber] to rise to the top 10 will inevitably get swarmed by shitposts and nobody with a working brain is gonna bother having to skim through 10+ replies just to find that one reply that isn't an attempt to stir shit up.

>>18825482
Then they must have been astroturfing since the /jp/ days. fucking newfags

>>18825533
yes that's exactly what that post was implying. In case you forgot the chinkout happened back in 2020

>>18825472
They like Hal because he complained about the live viewer cull on Twitter

>>18825610
and also because he gets big numbers for his tournaments

>>18823894
>never before have i seen a general actually try to coordinate a raid/harassment campaign
It's literally 1 faggot that got laughed out of /#/ for being a retard.
Many anons in /#/ want Nijis to stream Elden Ring because they don't think it'll bring the big numbers that doomposters are saying it would and Holos certainly aren't going to stream it.

>>18825595
Except that note post is about NijiEN

>>18825472
>They
You seem to be the type of guy who goes into a seething rage at a handful of shitposts, and that thread has more than it's fair share, so you're never going to stomach it.

>>18825638
>Many anons in /#/ want Nijis to stream Elden Ring because they don't think it'll bring the big numbers
Let's play the guessing game about what happens in the /#/ afterwards when the numbers aren't going to be big

>>18825472
Sounds like you just got assmad at a couple of shitposts

Numberfags here, you all are overreacting to anons shitposting (and giving even more ammo for more shitposts).
That thread will discuss anything getting big numbers, with some of the favorites of the thread being Toya (affectionally called "he ayame"), Kuzuha (more popularly known as "the king") and Hal (known as the "Emperor"), along with the usual heavy hitters from the Holo side and, more recently, the VSPO side.

Anyone saying that place favor this or that chuuba or company is butthurt about their chuuba or company being shat on when they don't get big numbers. There is only one rule there
>big number > small number

Get big number? People kneels to you. Get small numbers? People dunk on your midget ass.
Now go back to the topic of the thread, permissions or whatever

>>18825638
No, many anons also want nijisanji to get fucked by fromsoft precisely because nijiniggers love to go "we can stream elden ring and you can't, Nijisanji will incline to the moon, neener neener" and all them nijiniggers quaking in their boots in this thread is because they are faced with the prospect of their shitposting coming back to btie them

>>18825804
nice spoonfeeding, too bad it's not going to work because I'm going to ignore that when creating my epic meme collage

>>18825472
>>18822718
/#/ linked your post, so the numberniggers are here now.

>>18825853
yeah that's right the big scary numberfags are in this thread with your right now

>>18825765
Mostly shitting on Elden Ring schizo, who thinks Nijis are going to dominate the next month with Elden Ring.
The ones who are likely to play Elden Ring and get good numbers are Yashiro and Kagami, who /#/ barely mentions.

You're going to get a few schizos like >>18825807 who will shitpost about Nijis getting bad numbers, but that happens regardless of Elden ring.

numberbros...

>>18825804
Actually amazing the lack of objectivity you have when you're on the winning side kek

>>18825804
nigger, the first thing I see when i open your thread is a gura imagedump and nothing but holo talk, i have nothing against global, but just talk about your girls, your obsession is creepy.

>>18825472
No one in that thread watches vtubers, besides Holo, to begin with the FPS thread hates numberniggers, so their larping is just ridiculous.

>>18825980
Retarded tourist, it's a Gura imagedump because Gura won the day.
It was Flare yesterday.

>>18825804
You are all a bunch of lying schizos and have been repeating this since summer 2021.
>i-it's just a handful of people
>w-who cares if they raid the catalog and the generals
>it doesn't matter if they spread dox shit and dump their vtuber suicide fantasies outside their containment thread

>>18825853
Oh wow /#/ leaving their thread? This has never happened before.

>>18826044
>won the day
you should try harder to win your own life too. don't care about your retarded thread, get a life or at least watch streams.

>>18826060
We're the ones that have to put up with these people constantly. If there was no # they would be in *your* favorite thread shitting it up twice as much.

>>18826116
>called out for being a retarded tourist
>no comeback
Kek fucking faggot. Worry about your own life, kiddo.

>>18825980
Nijinigger, you weren't there when Hoshikawa won. Stop getting butthurt will you.
Numbers thread is actually the most rational thread on this board all things considered because everyone is represented there.

>>18826206
LMAO

THE NIJINIGGERS ARE RUNNING SCARED MY FELLOW HOLOCHADS

>>18826206
>everyone is represented there
More like, winner gets all.

>>18826198
okay, global sperg, just kill yourself, stop leaking.

>>18826266
Cope and seethe, fucking nigger.

>>18826266

>>18826266
ok kid

>>18826156
> If there was no # they would be in *your* favorite thread shitting it up twice as much.
Like you are doing now? I don't know what is more sad, you being this desperate to defend a fucking viewer count general or the fact that you think you faggots don't get out of your containment zone all the time.

>>18826329
>he thinks if there's no /#/, there will be somehow be less schizos

>>18826206
>Numbers thread is actually the most rational thread

>>18826206
But all the posts are related to hololive there, I don't understand what the hell is this delusion, I see zero posts over there related to 774, Tsunderia, Wactor and etc. Or do you think shitposting niji/vshojo counts as being "represented"? What the hell is your problem.

>>18826472
>774, Tsunderia, Wactor
Do they get numbers? No? Then fuck off

>>18826472
VSHOJO DOESN'T COUNT, WE DON'T TALK ABOUT TWITCH VTUBERS OKAY.

>>18825980
Did you miss the Hoshikawa image dump when she won the day?

>>18826402
That's not what you said though. So your general is useless.

>>18826550
he thinks the numbers thread is mordor, of course not

>>18826472
>But all the posts are related to hololive there
WTF? Did you miss the complete analysis of the recent results for NijiEN girls?

>>18580121 :: Pomu
>>18580456 :: Elira
>>18580689 :: Finana

>>18579707 :: Selen
>>18580956 :: Petra
>>18581212 :: Rosemi

>>18581668 :: Reimu
>>18582325 :: Nina
>>18582678 :: Millie
>>18582937 :: Enna

There is more information about NijiEN girls (and pretty every other minor streamer) in that thread than likely on their own splits

>>18826510
Then don't fucking talk as if your general is a great civil unity thread, your misleading piece of shit.

>>18826618
>information
Reading the title of their streams and writing down the numbers they get is only relevant to your brain damaged friends in that general.

>>18826649
but it is though? You get numbers, you get in. You get shit numbers you can go pound sand, it's the perfect meritocracy

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>ratio
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Nijisanji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>subs to growth ratio
>subs to SC ratio
>*insert delusion about Selen here*
>VOD views don't count
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>gen 3 should be left alone so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos
>Square Enix doesn't count
>combined peak CCV
>quality numbers
>dead cat bounce
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>Hololive is only popular because of chink clippers
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad
>Rightful sovereignty
>Ichikara has morals
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Nijisanji has a better following than Hololive in the west
>There are no nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>Views don't matter
>only the west speaks english
>outfit reveals don't count
>look at the Twitter interaction
>Fake numbers
>R-r-relays don't count because I say so
>Pokemon doesn't count
>20 hololive merchs
>We're losing? Better start telling blatant lies
>Luxiem is five Mystas
>Gura didn't go viral
>less Money is good thing
>The numbers do not reflect the quality of the content
>NijiEN chat interaction is actually soulful
>Gacha rolling streams shouldn't count for medals
>on a per event basis
>Leaving SCs on is SC begging
>nijisanji shilling makes games like Genshin successful in Japan
>Nijisanji keeps failing but that's okay because they are rich

>>18826649
More people kneel to Kuzuha on a day he wins than there are IPs in the Nijimale thread.

>>18826618
>caring this much over view counts
Actual schizophrenia, get help.

>>18826737
and this goes into the nijicope list

>>18826679
It's numbers, not large numbers.

>>18826672
>Reading the title of their streams and writing down the numbers
It's the fucking numbers thread, of course the focus is numbers.

>>18826649
>Then don't fucking talk as if your general is a great civil unity thread
It's not a civil unity thread, it's a numbers thread. Big numbers get praised, midget numbers get dunked on.

The thing is that it doesn't matter the origin, only the magnitude of the number

Yeah, /#/ doesn't leak at all.

>>18826472
Are you fucking retarded? That is the numbers thread. We don't talk about those insignificant people unless they get big numbers. Vspo is in the buzz lately because they get big numbers. Simple as that.

>>18826784
be the change you want to see, or seethe eternal

>>18825980
We do image dumps (usually horny posts) for the vtuber that had the most live viewers on the day to celebrate their achievement. Gura had the biggest stream among all vtubers yesterday so we did a Gura image dump.

>>18826737
Anon, some people watch sports, other people watch speedruns, and other people watch numbers horserace.

>>18826788
/#/ is not a containment thread because you decided it should be one, cope and seethe

>>18826472
We have actually talked quite a bit about Miori's incline from Tsunderia.

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>ratio
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Nijisanji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>subs to growth ratio
>subs to SC ratio
>*insert delusion about Selen here*
>VOD views don't count
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>gen 3 should be left alone so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos
>Square Enix doesn't count
>combined peak CCV
>quality numbers
>dead cat bounce
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>Hololive is only popular because of chink clippers
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad
>Rightful sovereignty
>Ichikara has morals
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Nijisanji has a better following than Hololive in the west
>There are no nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>Views don't matter
>only the west speaks english
>outfit reveals don't count
>look at the Twitter interaction
>Fake numbers
>R-r-relays don't count because I say so
>Pokemon doesn't count
>20 hololive merchs
>We're losing? Better start telling blatant lies
>Luxiem is five Mystas
>Gura didn't go viral
>less Money is good thing
>The numbers do not reflect the quality of the content
>NijiEN chat interaction is actually soulful
>Gacha rolling streams shouldn't count for medals
>on a per event basis
>Leaving SCs on is SC begging
>nijisanji shilling makes games like Genshin successful in Japan
>Nijisanji keeps failing but that's okay because they are rich

The nijinigger fears the numberchad

>>18826472
>I see zero posts over there related to 774, Tsunderia, Wactor
For fuck sake, Patra gets a weekly mention and immense praise for her amazing ASMR numbers (both in audience and in sales).

>>18826873
Only recently due to the large jump last week. People didn't give a fuck about Nene reaching 1k first for her corpo on her outfit reveal.

my god, you numberniggers really got upset. you faggots are probably more passionate over your circlejerk general than your oshis.

this is the most sad thing I've seen today.

>>18826923
mom says it's my turn to post it now

>>18826942
now say that without crying

>>18826933
Luxiem buck broke /#/.

Nijiniggers are really fragile

>>18826923
The 100 commandments of the Holofag, the mean posts against Hololive that they cry over every day.

numberfags are so easily triggered LMAO

>>18826786
And I'm saying that information is only helpful to you faggots, quit implying that writing down stream titles is more informative than anything actual fans would post or watch. Pretending that saying "this girl got 5k viewers" is more informative than discussing streams?

>>18826618
>There is more information about NijiEN girls (and pretty every other minor streamer) in that thread than likely on their own splits
Because no one cares about this, you can't be serious. Not a single dedicated thread of any girls be holo, niji, indie and would bother posting this, because it's useless information.

>>18826817
Where were the Kuzuha dumps

>>18819095
i cant read any of that shit. it's just fucking scribbles

Our fearsome reputation has every nijinigger scared shitless. Every night nijinigger mothers tuck thier kids in with the warning that unless they behave, the notorious numberfags will rise from the depths of the numberthread to shit on their feelings.

>>18827377
they don't like hornyposting males, when kuzuha wins it's usually just sanya fanart

>>18827377
Kuzuha isn't female but there were a couple images of his genderbent version. Hoshikawa, Mito, and Lize had large image dumps when they won the day over the course of the last couple weeks.

>>18819445
Mio almost got obliterated by a sudden attention to actually striking videos out of nowhere

>>18827543
>>18827549
So you guys stopped wanting him to die/graduate? Huh, what changed

>>18827650
>shitposters are reflective on the entire thread

>>18827650
it's funny to shitpost with kuzuha
also his tweets are great

>>18827650
this happened

>>18821341
That is incorrect, also it doesn't make any sense. They got explicit permission from those china companies, which is why they ended up revoked, because chinese antis were threatening to cancel them because they were specifically working with a blacklisted company.

>>18819095
Weren't you holobronies saying the games were shit anyway and you rather watch Minecraft? lmao
You guys can't ever stop coping

>>18827694
I prefer this to the death threats and dox/matome posting

>>18824065
you might not believe it but pewdiepie barely get any special treatment. If he really want something he still need to make some noise to youtube support on twitter.

his channel constantly get some random ass compant claim his ads revenue over some sfx bullshit like ocean wave sound or bird noises, etc. it's to the point he stop complaining and just take what's left (which is still more than enough because he's too big).

The nijinigger cries out as it strikes you

>>18820855
Is this really cuz of permissions? Or the recent security vulnerability/EAC issues?

#numbers and /hlg/ are two sides of the same coin

>>18827675
it's 90% shitposters though?

>>18823266
Nijiniggers report bombed Korone’s banjo and gloated about it.

>>18829685
Shitposters in the sense that /#/ has a bit of an /sp/ like banter and competition culture. The people saying they want Kuzuha to die are not 90% of the thread. Fucking hell.

>>18826786
>Big numbers get praised, midget numbers get dunked on.
autism

>>18829966
shitposters that look at numbers and not streams are all the same. They don't like vtubers at all and don't belong here

>>18830059
You don't come to the thread. I bet we watch more streams than you.

>>18830100
nice try but I've been there to discuss twitch vtubers and they never talk about vtuber content and circlejerk about the same hololive milestones. They're actually mentally ill

>>18830199
>they never talk about vtuber content
IT'S THE FUCKING NUMBERS THREAD, the topic is the numbers. Content discussion go to the splits, for for sake

>>18831037
>for for sake
are you okay?

>>18831037
>guys /#/ has more content discussion than splits
>ACTUALLY IT DOESN'T
which is it

>>18830199
>/vt/ is a Hololive centric board
>there is more Hololive discussion over other things
Wow, shocking

>>18831037
Why does anyone care about numbers?

>>18831366
ABUNAI! YOU CAN'T CALL ME OUT LIKE THAT.

>>18833581
>good numbers
Will probably continue on the job.
>bad numbers
Might give up on the job.
You should at least care about this, but everyone in Hololive is making money.

>>18833940
Streamers stream for more reasons than just numbers, good numbers are much lower than you often think, and besides it's a waste of time to care about how a stranger is doing financially.

>>18833940
I guess thats why everyone who is at 1k viewers and below graduates after a year
oh
wait

>>18834407
>I guess thats why everyone who is at 1k viewers and below graduates after a year

I wish.

>>18819095
oh no no no

>>18821879
But thats the thing, aside from THOSE CIRCLES, there are many devs that don't care that much or are such massive weebs that they'll go out of their way to interact with the chuubas. NGO for instance wanted vtubers on purpose such that they wrote an elaborately explicit permission page pinned on their steam page.

I just really like how random numbers can be in the topics, like when there was talk of which Shakespeare plays should vtubers be play acting and which ones would be shit to do.

>>18824800
Neck yourself niggerfaggot trannykike normalfag holobronie.

>>18839353
>>18838928
Nijiseethe

>>18826221
>>18826243
Neck yourself holobronie

>>18839353
>>18838928
>>18839478
Nijiseethe

>>18821870
using PC version to stream straight up forbidden in other word we only allowed to stream inferior console version using only in-built streaming app in console no 3rd party streaming app allowed. typical Bamco kissing Sony ass