/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>13312908
>>13312827
You fools! now we have two of them!

>>13311425
>>13311399
>>13311495
Remember that time Kronii's debut stream hit 1 million views FIVE times in the first day before Susan decided to finally allow her to pass that ceiling?

>>13311112
>the only reason almost every video is 10 minutes long nowadays
That has ALWAYS been the case on YouTube ever since they started allowing videos to be longer and longer. YouTube's audience is accustomed to watching 10 minute videos because most people are raised on it from watching cartoons and TV in 11-minute segments with about 10 minutes worth of content. This isn't some new meta that popped up last week.

Mind you, the true new meta for YouTube is videos longer than one hour to farm Premium watch hours along with videos much shorter than 10 minutes to feed the algorithm. 10 minute videos still work for traditional YouTubers though, and VTubers could benefit from adding more of that type of content to their channels.

>>13312950
Three full minutes later, that one

3k for roboco at 3am seems pretty good

honestly DMC games are weird for numbers. Shuba got decent views with dmc3 but was still slightly debuffed
then there is flare who pulled her normal numbers with dmc1 despite it being the second time she was playing it on the chanel(rip first one holocausted 6 gorrilion videos)
the big bonus for both is that their reactions to the main story beats get clipped with a 99% certainty so it might help with channel growth. same seems to go for Gura.

>>13313597
Better than matsuri , but only because she doesnt have shion for competition.

>>13313615
It doesn’t help that Gura isn’t a proficient player. That’s her debuff, not the game in itself.
Everytime she’s playing it and tune me n she’s getting her ass kicked

>>13313668
next dmc stream (if it ever comes) will be ""fun"" she has spent the last hour or so trying to beat Dante and the best she did was like 1/3 of his health bar so get ready for a whole episode of just that

>>13313615
Small thing I picked up from Gura recent stream DMC stream is that she didn't specify the game title, not only that but she moved her usual zatsudan at the end of her stream to the beginning instead. These two small changes immediately improve her vods view by nearly double compare to her last two other dmc4 streams. Don't know if these are coincidence she just happen to do but curious to see if she continue or not.

Also Gura going without a schedule this week doesn't seem to affecting her at all.

>>13314133
That's cause all her streams happen at the exact same time so everyone knows when to tune in.

Does music channel have different VOD evaluation ?
Mori and Rikka have 0 daily views, which can't be true because they have songs.(Holostats)

>>13314562
It's just a YT API issue, it happens every now and then.
Here's a few hiccups on Pekora's views.

Pretty disappointed in the vod views of the Mel-Okayu ASMR stream so far, YT should have finished parsing the live viewers.

Evaluating Nijisanji EN's upcoming birthday streams and predictions:

11-22, Nina: 2k average CCV; 3.5~3.8k donations
Nina's birthday is following the Niji Crash event, plus she's good at entertaining a crowd and playing up stream events.

11-30, Selen: 5~6k average CCV; 8~9k donations
Selen's the biggest in terms of numbers, always good at playing up stream events, close relationship with other big hitters in the branch so their banter will light up the stream quite a bit

12-4, Petra: 1.6k~1.9k average CCV; 1.8~2k donations
Probably not many guests showing up due to it being so late and doesn't have much of a rapport with anyone, birthday exhaustion following Selen and Nina, isn't good at entertaining a crowd or playing into events like the others

12-12, Millie; 2~2.5k average CCV; 3~4k donations
Great at entertaining a crowd and playing into events, nice banter with big hitters like Pomu and Elira, Ethyria banter too, decent cool down period following Selen and Nina's birthday

2-20, Enna; 2.3~2.9k average CCV; 3~3.9k donations
Guaranteed legendary karaoke, decent at entertaining a crowd, excellent cool down period following Millie, Ethyria banter, close relationship with Elira and Pomu who are big hitters

The next two are Finana and Pomu, and I'm very eager to see how those will play out since Pomu's one of the real backbones of the brand, and Finana's made a big name for herself since her first birthday stream.

>>13314777
anon to give you an example, Faunas latest asmr had less than 100k views 12 hours after it was streamed. Now at 161k.

>>13314884
Fair enough, we'll see in a day or 2 where's it's at.

>>13314863
I would say those are pretty high numbers, especially for Selene, but power creep is real.

There's a bigger audience today for NijiEN than in June or July. Even if it's not big enough for 10 people to split yet.

So Today's match up should be: Nijisanji Splatoon Tourney vs Gen 3 Collab, right? I think the gen 3 Collab has a less than <1% chance of winning this since I do expect the Niji main channel to draw a mininum of 130k. With that being said, I'd be interested to see if the Niji main channel can draw more than the Sportsfes. HoloSportsfes peaked at 235k(?) for all streams. What was the peak for Splatoon day 1 anyway?

>>13315210(me)
Sorry, I mean all of niji's CCV combined vs Sportsfes

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

Here it goes
>95,074: にじさんじ (Nijisanji)
>51,413: Marine (Hololive)
>30,375: Pekora (Hololive)
>28,013: Miko (Hololive)
>27,957: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>27,396: Gura (Hololive)
>26,265: Shion (Hololive)
>26,181: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>25,717: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>23,970: Fubuki (Hololive)
>20,577: Subaru (Hololive)
>17,740: Subaru (Hololive)
>17,026: Lize (Nijisanji)
>16,300: Mio (Hololive)
>15,730: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>14,612: Miko (Hololive)
>14,427: Kanata (Hololive)
>14,414: Flare (Hololive)
>13,421: Fubuki (Hololive)
>12,148: Rushia (Hololive)
>11,259: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,352: Calli (Hololive)
>10,209: Kizuku (Nijisanji)

Mori's total VOD views is frozen since 3 or 4 days ago

>>13315294
Didn't beat SportsFes. You can add up all of the ones over 10k >>13315309 and assume it is more than 70% of the total peak. Combined tally never beat 200k (and that's a stretch)

>>13315309
>Kizuku
Think we can name him Yashiro instead?
I never know who Kizuku is when he appears on the list, but Yashiro is the famous wage slave vtuber.

>>13315210
>today
thats tomorrow

>>13315354
>Think we can name him Yashiro instead?
Sorry mate, I'm not privy of the preferred moniker for the Nijisanji livers and would appreciate greatly if people corrected me.
From this point on it will be Yashiro and I expect people to correct me with other livers too so I don't have to use the full blown name (which is embarassing)

>>13315395
It's today in the eastern world (where it happens), tomorrow in the christendom

>>13315394
My thanks, you are a kind fellow.

>>13315328
>add up all of the ones over 10k
huh? anon that event was more of a relay than countless joint povs. By the time anyone big started their povs the main channel dropped from 90 to 70k. Im not sure if it even went over 100k

>>13315124
My basis is that:
Elira's Birthday stream got around 5.5k CCV at peak, and she's usually around 2k for CCV.
Depending on the game, Selen can get around 3k CCV with a bit higher numbers for Apex, and for big events like Phasmophobia she had reached high 6k to 7k CCV.
Birthday streams are pretty big, even Reimu got 3k in donations and 3k CCV on her birthday stream, which is 10x her normal numbers.
Add that with Selen's current incline (just went viral on Reddit after starting on Twitch streaming) and I think 5~6k average is possible.
Likewise, Elira made 10k in SCs in her birthday stream and she doesn't get as much in donations as Selen does on average, hence the 8~9k donation number which may be lowballing it.

>>13315570
My point that by adding those up it sets an absolute upper limit. If that does not crosses the SportsFes the question is answered (which it is)

>>13315416
christian language board, christian days

KEK; one of these two done goof'd.

Good for Mio, she was so anxious about visiting EN server without an escort

>>13316034
Tbf, not the first time Hakos is starting her stream earlier than collab. She preps for her streams a lot

Threads are a little bit slow, i guess
So when Nijis are winning the day, we get kinda civil discussions and kinda calm thread.
I saw a few butthurt holofags and Nijifags trying to pretend as holofags and posts cope (probably because they want to feel superior but are just mostly ignored lmao).

There are a lot of 1year Celebration and Birthdays for Hololive this December.
Plus EN Outfits and Christmas Collabs will happen.

Will Nijis also have lots of events next month? I just wanna know if Holos have a chance of losing the month for a change

>>13316259
Apex
>Apex
Apex
>Apex

>>13316259
The New Year event for Niji always wins that day.
>127,530
https://playboard.co/en/video/AoFnsVUzVbE

>>13316369
It's good that Ame has other income sources, like her 10k+ members and the Ad revenue, otherwise, from that cut, she didn't even make minimum wave this month from SC.

>>13316535
>wage
meant minimum wage.

gud noombers

>>13315328
Anon that was day 1 of the tournament it isn't done yet.

>>13316841
interesting

>>13314884
Fauna ASMR always seems to grow a lot more than her other VODs. I would guess ASMR fags don't necessarily watch live and just put it on whenever they want to relax and get into their ASMR zone or whatever shit they're into.

>>13316369
NijiEN deserves AT VERY LEAST acknowledgement for pulling 50% more streams than HoloEN, even if many are absolute fillers (like watchalongs).

>>13316535
>like her 10k+ members
Just curious, is there any proof of this? I remember some anon was posting the estimated floor of HoloEN memberships earlier this month and Ame's was around 5k.
Sure, it's just the floor. However, that anon's method was basically counting all members who interacted with chat or joined membership during a stream. If there is proof that Ame has 10k active members, it'd mean that either other HoloEN members (except Gura) would have around as many (give or take a thousand or two), or teamates are just really quiet during streams for some reasons

>>13316853
People are talking about concomitant audience which happened today

>>13316369
Money Fairy

>>13316931
Patra does not have the most viewed ASMR, but her ASMR are 20-30x more than her other streams. (Noel is around 10-20x)

>>13316369
Gura... stream please...

>>13316939
They do work very hard, and it's commendable. However I don't think Nijisanji just managed to find 10/10 hard workers and Hololive got unlucky with 3/4ths lazy shitters, it's a function of how much they feel they have to stream. Holos seem to feel they have enough money and are popular enough they can just kind of do whatever they want, while Nijis are trying to grow their channels and audience and stay relevant to the algorithm. That's the difference between Selen only having 15 VODs over 100k and only one over 200k and even a shitter like Kiara having 22 VODs over 100k in the last month alone.

>>13317078
Patra is pretty much only known for ASMR. Fauna is an ASMR streamer but in an organization that gives her a lot of exposure to a non-ASMR audience.

Saruei has blown over 6k views, going wild with this asmr stream. Top asmr streamer on twitch currently

>>13316956
She has at the very very least 4.4k members, we know not 100% of them will interact with a poll and estimates say not even the majority would.

>>13316965
And they should stop. Main POV dipped hard when certain people went live meaning main POV and others POV certainly share lots of viewers and you can't compare the peaks. I thought we already went through this. Sportsfes and Splatoon tourney are two different things anyway. One is more competitive and one has a bunch of POVs at the same time instead of in-and-out.

>>13315210
>>13315294
no, it wont. The tournament is Mario kart/mahjong tier in terms of views. it will not beat sportfes or koshien or nijipex (all 200k+)

>>13317232
4.4k isn't great. Inas member votes get around 7.8-7.9k. IDK about the others only membered to Ina.

>>13315210
>130k
No, it'll hover 90-100k.

>>13317272
Mahjong numbers. Its going to be like this later main ch vs gen 3 collab

>>13316369
I got different values using the Surperchat tab on Playboard >>13306805

>>13317272
nijipex had 99k on main channel funnel, the 200k was a meme where some anon added up the peaks of all the 30+ participating channels (peaks which did not happen at the same time)

>>13317343
This particular poll was useless just the day after, the previous one has 6.7k

>>13317379
I'd expect it to be a te zone thing whenever this kind of small discrepancy happens.

>>13317356
I mean it's the final, right? I'd expect a significant increase just because of that. Maybe 130k was me being too optimistic but at least 110k should be doable.

>>13317379
I didn't use the SC tab. Each value on my sheet corresponds to the SC value from a stream, starting from November 1st.

>>13317556
Most estimates put Ame and Ina at about the same 15k+ level of everage monthly members, mostly from those 2 sources, but that's the thing, these are just estimates.
Unless we get an accurate way to see them, we need to stop reading too much into the membership numbers.

Could Kuzuha ever beat Coco's nearly 500k? If so what would it take?

What a Shame, Marine MC yesterday and Pekora&Gen3 QnA could've easily won Golds. It just has to overlap with Nijis Tourney

Short as expected but here's current sponsorship stuff for Council so far.

>>13316939
Quantity over quality, anon. I don't think they need to be commended.

>>13317718
>If so what would it take?
Autoerotic asphixiation ASMR.
>PUTTING A PLASTIC BAG IN MY HEAD AND ZIPLOCKING IT IN PLACE AND NOT REMOVING IT AND FAPPING UNTIL I GET 500K CCV OR DIE!

>>13317718
Easy and it will only take 3 steps
>Announce that he will show his face
>Stream how he will murder Nijis or Holos IRL
>Kills himself (Basically Graduate from life)

>>13317150
They need to work smart, not hard. I'll never understand why they spam Multi-POV collabs so much. Also, Selen needs to learn how to put her other genmates over because aside from Wave 1 who was fortunate enough to establish their core audience, as small as it is, the rest of Wave 2 and 3 do not have that luxury.

>>13317718
1 million subsriber 12 hour New Years countdown special, with the entirety of Nijisanji as call in and 3D guests. Segments with Noob, Hikarin and Jun, including the 5 of them trying to beat BTS to see who gets off a deserted island first.
The super special reveal after the countdown is he's going on an American tour and launching cologne and a sex doll.


Even then, it might not be wnough. Merging Twitch and Bilibili into YT streaming next year would increase all stream numbers enough that even his anniversary could get 600k viewers though.

>>13317848
>to see who gets off a deserted island first.
kek, I'm liking this "unbraided hair" derivation

>>13317384
went archive diving yep youre right minus mito the tournament didn't peak 200k+ total ccv.

>>13317718
Anons are talking about him killing himself, but last time someone did that for Hologirls the whole thread went "Too far" "We aren't animals"
Bunch of misandrists in here.

>>13317718
Have a cameo on BTS new MV.

>>13317706
Our data is limited but memberships are obviously extremely important to the Holos themselves and seems to shape their behavior. Kson said sc/member revenue was around 3:1 and she has crazy SC compared to her other metrics. But members are much more reliable income that you don’t have to waste time on readings for. If members are proportional to unique chatters which is a reasonable starting point Gura makes an insane amount of memberships compared to superchats.

>>13317890
Hero that low wtf

>>13317913
>the whole thread went "Too far"
You surely mean one (1) fag. Most people would fap to the numbers even if it came from a chuuba giving birth and EATING the newborn with an ASMR mic

>>13317767
Current status for NijiEN

>>13317809
they have no way to work smart
unless they break with womething unqieue and most dont they have the talent or moaney to do it.
the difference between how much they need to pull when you consider hours streamed between nijien girls and holoen girls is even more appaling.

>>13316481
holoen outfits will probably happen that month

>>13318263
HoloEN still needs to be given their new years outfits as well.

>>13316939
i think a lot of it is offstream obligations for the holos. Things like con appearances and dance practice/studio time

actually, Mori talking about dance practice just a few weeks ago makes me wonder how far they were planning to play chicken with the jp lockdowns before deciding to call the 3d debut off officially

>>13318124
pomu had one for colorful stage too.
it was pretty bad numberwise but it is there.

>>13318289
that's a nip thing the same way ID has a cultural outfit, EN won't have something like that since they are not from the same country

>>13318310
So that means Pomu has the most sponsorships so far.
Surprised Elira didn't get the sponsorship as well seeing how shes a big fan.

>>13318089
No it was several anons, to be fair it was about Coco so people were rightfully triggered

Here's an update for Oricon stats, corrected a few mistakes and updated some entries. I tried to add something like a FAQ to avoid confusion and loops of questions, let me know if you think it's redundant. I'll update it in ten days next time, there are a lot of albums to be released soon.

>>13318310
100% sponsor/management fault for bad numbers. They scheduled it during a big branch Mario Party collab. They should have tried to clear schedule so that people would watch the sponsor stream.

>>13318391
She probably will. Selen's sponsor stream focused on one of the in-game groups, Pomu's focused on one of the other in-game groups, Elira and others will probably do the other groups.

>>13318496
GO SUISEI

>>13318496
Good FAQ, keep it

>>13314777
I'm still trying to figure out how it didn't break 10k live viewers; solo ASMRs break that occasionally.

Now add on that it was an off-collab ASMR and not some gimmicky teaching session like Noel and Marine from last year but two actual ASMR veterans and...what the fuck happened?

>>13318496
I'm slightly surprised that Oricon didn't track other Suisei singles aside from Ghost. Also looks like that's just first week's sales for Ghost (https://web.archive.org/web/20210421023803/https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/dis/w/2021-04-26/p/2/)) which must have sold more since Bluerose release boosted it back onto Billboard's download song chart: https://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=dlsongs&year=2021&month=07&day=12 Also sad that Hanabasami Kyo isn't tracked, would have liked to see how well her album did.

All of this is to say good work, keep it up. It must be a bitch to try and compile that shit and I never could be arsed. But I

>>13318009
her last poll has 13k votes

>>13318886
time slot off by a couple hours

>>13318009
If you had 10k members and they all were paying in real money that's about 17k cut for the streamer per month. 200k in a year.

>>13319305
Is the price differences of membership the same as SC? You need 100usd to have a red supa but 1500ntd (=50usd), and Gura's membership in Taiwan is 75ntd, half the price of US's membership.

>>13319510
Yeah, you can get a membership in ARS for less than 1 dollar I think.

>>13315210
>>13310865
I like gen 3 but yesterday numbers suggest that niji will get bigger numbers this day since its finals . I'm lowballing nijisanji and i can still see them getting 115k-120k.

Gen 3 : 80k is possible, 90k is possible, 100k maybe, 110 dont think so

>>13313090
R tard. Youtube required videos to be 10 minutes long to turn on monetization so creators made as many 10 to 11 minute videos as possible so that they'd be monetized and farm as many views as they could

>>13316841
she's gonna get cucked by Noel and Mumei

>>13319510
Yes, unlike Twitch and just like SC numbers, membership values depend on the currency you're using, but since there's no way to know what people pay memberships in and how many are Tier 2 or 3 subs, we just round it to 5$ per member instead of Yen or Euro, or Pesos.
That's why i keep saying, stop thinking too deeply about membership estimates.
They're all wrong anyway, just some estimates.

>>13319928
Stop talking about shit you obviously know nothing about. Songs with 4 or 5 minutes are monetized just fine, the reason a lot of creators use 10 minutes it's because it let them put 2 ads in a single video, plus it's also the recommended time to keep a viewer's attention.

>>13319928
Imagine knowing this little about YouTube.
There is no minimum for monetization. Midrolls used to required a 10-minute video, it's actually 8 minutes now since July 2020. Pre-rolls can play on all videos except Shorts in the shorts app.

>>13320118

>>13319928
At least do the minimum research before acting like an idiot and calling other people idiots.
You can monetize any video, but 10 minute (now 8) allows you to have mid rolls, aka more ads, more watch time and proportionally more money. Here is some random 5 year old video about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6KSh2ZUDJg

>>13319811
It's a QnA Stream, at Best it'll get 80k but i don't think it can get past that.
There will be overlaps most likely so i predict only 60k-70k.

As for Niji Tourney Finals, i predict only 100k. There will be lots of audience but most will watch the players. Maybe

>>13316841
Nah, it will be Gura's regular 20+k. 1m VOD views though.

>>13320382
Maybe they'll finally tell us when pekora's outfit will come out.

>>13320118
>>13320199
>>13320274
You would think after the first guy makes the point the next two wouldn't feel the need to make the exact same points again and again. Virtue signaling "i'm smarter than you" nijikeks please leave

>>13320476
>is retarded
>gets proven wrong
>screams virtue signaling and Nijisanji
Never change, Twitter tourists.

>>13320476
Nice comeback dude.
How new are you btw? In this case 90% of the time people just didn't refresh the page.
No one likes wasting time to explain to some moron on the internet that they're being an idiot if someone already did.

>>13320581
/b/ro I've been here longer than you'd believe. I've been here for "A", for eekum bokum, for clips of "nigggaaaaaa" so think twice before you call me new, son

>>13320764
Spoken like a true newfag.

>>13320764
I can tell you're new not because of your pretend flex, but because you thought it was funny or worthwile to post.

>>13320764
>He wasn't here for Asacoco 1.0

On a side numbers thing, I don't like how much OtakMori has grown recently.
It's become the 2nd most watched translation channel this fall and their drama bait titles are working really well.
Most of their top videos are from these last few months even.

I believe it's the 3rd most watched EN/translation channel now that the EN ones have fallen off a bit.

>Sushi 1,206,780 daily views
>OtakMori 350,776
>Vtube Tengoku - 345,718
>? SodaFunk - 225,712

>>13315328
Yeah it beat the main pov (miko)

Today's superchats

>>13317913
If someone would actually kill themself on stream of course that shit won't count for multiple reasons. Stop being weird.

>>13321701
Wait, why was Figaro on the list?
She doesn't usually get this much

>24 hour endurance stream
Ah, ok.

>En Hours
>Mega-overlap Time
Holy overlaps.
Ame streaming, now Ina's starting(Gonna be shorter stream though), followed by Gura in 30 min, Calli 30 min after that and then IRyS Unarchived Karaoke an hour after Calli starts.

>>13321130
October numbers. Sushi is too powerful.

>>13323140
Nice, gonna check them out.
I unsubbed to 3 Clippers due to having Nijiclips (i don't care if it's 1niji every 5Holoclips)
Gonna have new ones

>>13321130
Could be because even if it's bait, EOPs have nothing else. He translates clips no one else does. If he improved, he would have better numbers.

>>13323140
Damn, four Taiwan clipper channel....

>>13323140
Oh yeah, the SEA, especially Indonesian clippers have gotten huge numbers recently.

Queen Usada keeps her social distancing from the peasants below her.

when's the NijiEN MK?

>>13323389
Fair enough.
It's pretty much the only place you can go to whenever a Holo is announcing they're taking a break, or something their troubled by.

But it's still stupidly baity at times, even for innocuous clips.

>>13323504
>Ayame 0 hours streamed
sigh...

>>13323563
40 minute (6pm PST/9pm EST).

>>13323702
…and 24 hours.

>>13323798
I apparently can't read small numbers on my screen. Thanks for the correction.

>>13323702
Would be weird to have the tournament in the middle of a game show

>>13323373
some tried kek

>>13323917
They'll draw while drive, ez

>>13323504
>korosan
>35th
;_;

>>13323917
An interesting occurrence in this stream btw.

Yes, the poll didn't even last 2 minutes and got over 2000 votes.

>>13324097
The poll had 2700+.

>>13323504
Damn Mori endurance streams is somehow paying off huh?

>>13324097
Well, you're probably more 'engaged' if you're watching NijiEN since you do have to go out of your way to find them relative to HoloEN, but we also know that YT's CCV is outright fucked.

>>13324220
The weird part is that, based on off Twitch poll average engagement, and how bad the Dec CCV drop was for HoloEN...
this puts the high end for how big the viewer live cut is at 50%.
Imagine that NijiEN actually have 5k live viewers, and Gura regularly is at 50k, but we're being lied to by YT.

>>13323950
Lmfao and when he saw how the views dropped, he stopped lmao

>>13323950
>>13324668
such a fate of a nijiclipper...

>>13323504
>Mori 66.9
>Kiara 60
>Ame 24.3
>Ina 22.6
>Gura 22

Does anyone have the November 2020 hours?

>>13324717
Mori tries hard to get better numbers
I like her now.

>>13324705
lmao

>>13324717
Will never not KNEEL to the fact that Miko was 5th in hours streamed for 2020 despite missing so much time due to her hospitalization.

>>13324791
Mori streams more when she finishes most of her songs.

>>13324450
No, that cut is too high.
Like, as incompetent and annoying YT is, I REFUSE to believe that the %Adblock usage is high enough to account for a 50% cut. It's not, not if you include mobile devices in EN speaking regions of the world. At HIGHEST, accounting for mobile, its ~25-35% max. Lower than that in JP due to lower adblock adoption there, but maybe 15-20% for JP.

>>13324791
Mori has top tier subs, sc, views, mid level ccv and watch time. Any numberfag should respect that. If Gura or Ame had her work ethic who knows what heights they could reach?

>>13325223
I mean the real answer is it varies from stream to stream. Today I might be watching on the phone, tomorrow I might be a filthy fucking spam viewer with adblock on.

Seriously are there even ads during streams? Why does youtube care about adblocker?

>>13325358
Yes, there's almost always 1 ad when you start the stream, unless you've just watched an ad in which case you probably won't get another one right away.
Youtube cares, because if you're not watching ads you're a goddamn leech (in their eyes).

>>13325223
I doubt it's adblocker, or at least it's only one factor. For some reason I can't leave a view even on archive regardless of whether I'm on my phone or on computer. I've tried different setups including disabling adblocker, but to no avail.

>>13325223
Something doesn’t add up. Mid level Twitch streamers get 10-20% engagement with polls. Getting over 50% would be suspicious, 90% is absurd. Same with views: the math just doesn’t work out unless literally a hundred thousand people cycle through in perfect 30 second intervals. If they stayed longer it would have to push ccv up. I still think it’s a data center reconciliation thing but who knows?

>>13324717
2020 numbers Sept 12-13 to December 31
>Mori 182
>Kiara 338
>Ina 219
>Gura 206
>Ame 372

source: pic

2021 numbers Sept 1 to November 20
>Mori 212.3
>Kiara 282.5
>Ina 147.3
>Gura 133.4
>Ame 145.4

source: holo_data sept, oct, nov 1-20

Gura at 15k waiting, will probably cancel it altogether however since Rockstar is a hack

>>13325477
>>13325514
I hate youtube so much sometimes. I really wish someone dumped the source code like on Twitch so we could really get a 100% confirmed list of what the fuck this bullshit is being affected by.

>>13325223
well yeah, that's why it's the High End. On the lowest, for some JP streamers it was below a 10% estimate cut.
It's not just ad block though, switching tabs, being from a no ads region (some SEA countries), even having a fresh browser with no history were observed to "maybe, sometimes" cause you to be viewed as a bot by the algorithm and not count you. We still don't know how it works.

>>13325590
I mean, this seems like its on Gura too, unless she had already set this up and tested it earlier today and had no issues. Girl really fucking waits until the last moment for too much stuff to really say she didn't do the same for this stream.

>>13325745
she mentioned it had worked earlier then she changed some graphics settings and it no longer worked

>>13325590
>EN side
>15k waiting, 25-30k peak
>JP side
>15k waiting, 50k-80k peak
why is that

>>13325803
Missed it, chat moves too fast and I was tabbed out. Thanks.

>>13325590
It's 100% on her, they call it the EN curse but it's really just them being absolutely retarded and lazy.

>>13325865

>>13325249
Wish Mori improve her humberfagging in her CCV a bit, I really think she can reach 10k at least every stream

>>13325935
she angy

>>13326028
>>13325935
dam shame

>>13325935
Yea, this is what I get for not being on my usual device. Thanks.
>>13325866
Well, this time it definitely seems like GTAV is being a bitch, but the correct move would be to just boot up something else and run with that instead of sitting around hoping the game would unfuck itself...

>>13326151
GTA is a bastard. pretty much whenever i try and load it up the loading sequence can either be done right away or take ages

>>13325976
well shes 10k median shitter this month

>>13326151
The correct move is to test things out well before the stream, not 5 minutes before it. And yes, if something does happen, switch to something else like Minecraft or even Pokemon.

tomorrow oh nyo rip NijiEN collab lmao

>>13326412
>gta no scheduled over nijien mk collab
oh no no no no

No gura tonight, good news for Irys and Mumei (maybe Calli?)

>>13326412
Oh nyo, Yagoo's black magic.

>>13326028
Gura is Takeshi

>>13323504
Mori 67 hours

Yesterday
> 10 hours
Today
> 5 hours (+3h on a member's stream)
> Still going to play Earthbound
Tomorrow
> Pokemon
> Collab w/ bae
> Earthbound

>>13326412
>>13326726
>>13326756
Based omega

Mumei is gaining a lot of momentum. She might hit 10k with this duolingo and no overlap.

>>13326373
>posting the same shit in multiple threads on cooldown
How autistic are you, really?

>>13326756
IRyS will overlap Peko and Subaru. JOPs love karaoke so the overlap will still hurt her. People shit on IRyS karaoke numbers but I'm trying to think of the last karaoke stream where she wasn't overlapped by someone huge

>>13327104
The fuck are you on about sperg, i only posted in here. Let me guess, some people complained about this in /hlgg/ and you think it's all the same SEAnigger? Grow a fucking brain retard, of course something like an hour of delay followed by a cancellation would get people to complain when it would be so easy to avoid this with prep or just stream something else.

>>13327422
It's unarchived tho, should buff her number

>>13327523
>The fuck are you on about sperg, i only posted in here.
Uh huh, sure thing, buddy.

>>13326412
OMEGA YOU BASTARD!!! STOP FORCING GURA TO DO YOUR DIRTY WORK!!!

>>13327817
GURA IS OMEGA!

>>13327701
If you honestly believe something like this would cause no real complaints, in this shithole of all places, you're beyond deluded.

>>13327104
Dont reply to the schizo
is bad to start a stream if you are firstrated with tech issues.

>>13323140
Pretty sure the Japs watch Sushi as well considering how many clips I've seen of Holos talking about his clips. He's probably the go to when the Holos want to see what their Kaigai fans are looking at.

Vtube Tengoku used to be one of the big players as well, he's gotten a bit lazy and only puts out one clip a day.

Kanae is joining a millionaire club soon

>>13328151
Good for him. By the way, how about Chronoir channel?

>>13315394
>I'm not privy of the preferred moniker for the Nijisanji livers
This is 90% of the reason why I don't talk about Nijisanji on this board. I don't know what the hell a "Higuchi" is but I know what a "Deron" is.

>>13327995
They get midget numbers compared to other Niji clippers kek

>>13328297
Not sure if you understood me correctly but I was talking about superchats.

>>13328359
Niji fans should probably focus more on watching the actual streams rather than the clips then

>>13325935
So what, she changed the resolution it doesn't play nice with her monitor and she can't figure out how to go into the ini file and change it?

>>13328383
Oh, I thought you talked about subs

>>13328359
There's only one big niji clipper. The other niji clippers are midgets in comparison. Just like Kuzuha vs the rest of Niji.

>>13328552
Yep. Also holodex includes each and every clip and existence.

>>13323140
oh hey, there are two korean clippers and one arabic?

9.3k for Mumei, but Mori is gonna start soon. I don't think Mumei will get 10k, but it was a valiant effort.

>>13323140
Okay now do Niji clippers.

>>13329201
>>13328359

Meme review with Pikamee - 6.6k

>How the legends had fallen

>>13329584
People watch Coco's meme reviews to see the reactions of other Holomems.
No box pushing no numbers.

>>13317809
>I'll never understand why they spam Multi-POV collabs so much.
I'd bet money it's because they don't want to mess around with splitting the earnings from the collabs, speaking from experience friendships tend to get ugly very easily once money gets involved. Especially since it's hard to gauge exactly how much a single stream earned between ad revenue, superchats, streamlabs, and youtube premium

>>13326412
>>13326726
Reminder Gura has streamed or collabed over ever NijiEN debut.

>>13329562
Jeezuz, compared to Sushi...

>>13329770

>>13329793
Clipping too is something you have to put the time into and avoid yabs. Sushi is a clipper that consistently puts out dozens of clips a day and avoids clipping drama content or using obnoxious clip bait. He uses click bait obviously but its innocent clip bait. No wonder he is at the top of the clipper field.

>>13323389
No, it's mostly because normies and casuals don't know about the drama with his shitty translations, so to them he's just another clipper who makes fast and informative clips.

>>13329201
always a nijinigger that can't numberfag

>>13329880
Is Sushi monetized?

>>13329880
Don't want to end up like

>>13330031
Their issue came more from trying to throw in their weight rather than dramafest. Also Otakmori and Iroha are still standing.

>>13329562
holo jp clippers

>>13330023
I fucking hope so considering the work he does.

>>13330031
Niji killer

>>13330095
>Otakmori and Iroha are still standing.
Holo Sings received a copyright strike, how are these two still operational?

>>13329562
Where's ゆずポン酢?

>>13330526
Legal issues wrt archiving karaokes they shouldn't have is my best guess.

>>13328548
Chronoir channel is at 375k subs
Kanae is at 881k

>>13329770
And Niji has streamed over Myth, IRyS, and Council debuts. Niji streamed over Coco graduation, and their own livers graduations.
One of their gook liver is graduating, and they will stream over that, too.

>>13330526
not brave enough to clip 3d lives.

>>13330674
he didnt upload any videos last month.

>>13330839
He did tho

>>13330526
didn't otakmori recieved 2 strikes already?

>>13330868
no september/october

>>13330868
nope

>>13330127
I though niji was more popular between nips

>>13330896
Strikes wear off after enough time, so you need 3 strikes in relatively quick succession to have your channel terminated (which is what happened to Hololive Sings and that dox channel that got BTFO)

>>13331006
They were, but Hololive is bigger in Japan lately.

>>13331006
yeah, sure, in early 2020 maybe. Not today

>>13331182
>>13331276
Slow and steady bros......

>>13331006
They still are nijisanji is the go to for promotions and their level above hololive. For example nijisanji collabs with wendy an major fastfood resturant and that beyone hololive power

>>13331415
ESLfag, Gura had a taco bell sponsor, you could have just pointed out to things like Mahjong and Konami long-time and repeated sponsors instead of going for something you're unaware of

>>13331006
>>13331182
That's what hacking the algo gets you. Niji could do a lot of physical ads to get new viewers in, but the moment they watched one vtuber, a holo clip/vod can also get recommended and it'll all spiral down there.

>>13331415
Wasn't that too long ago Hololive got a don quijote sponsorship

>>13331415
Is wendy popular in japan? Because i dont think its that big in japan.

>>13325358
If you watch on a phone there's always 1-2 ads whenever you load a stream and then sometimes ads in the middle of it. Same with VODs. If you leave a stream for any reason and come back you have to watch more ads.

>>13331676
It is it's just called Wendy's first kitchen. Not as huge as taco bell because this is a Japan specific merge restaurant.

>>13313090
>Mind you, the true new meta for YouTube is videos longer than one hour to farm Premium watch hours
This is underrated. I watched a video from a creator saying Youtube Premium is "broken" because it gives so much more money than ads for stream VODs. He mentioned that the reason it's not being exploited more is because most Youtube creators upload videos and don't use it as a streaming platform. Obviously vtubers are in a prime position to take advantage of how favorably Youtube Premium divides up it's contribution to various creators because if you watch vtuber VODs then you're racking up a huge amount of time watched which is what youtube bases the split of Premium on.

A creator might get less than a cent for an ad watched on a VOD, but end up with about 20 cents from Youtube Premium it's a massive difference and Hololive are getting millions of people watching their VODs every week.

cam on irys get that 16k please

>>13331906
Realistically how many people in the vtuber target demographic are paying money for something you can just get with adblock? Seems like something older less tech savvy people would get suckered into.

>>13331748
I don't know anon im searching for the top fast food chains in japan and there is no wendy's first kitchen. I don't think its popular in japan. Lawson collab for niji/holo is probably bigger deal than wendy's desu

>>13332046
For mobile users paying for premium allows you to play videos while the phone is in sleep mode and that's more valuable than getting rid of ads for some of them.
Yes I know vanced is a thing but that's not something normies would get access to.

>>13331975
4 other English stream and Peko/Subaru/Noel streaming, doubtful.

>>13332080
Of course it is. Lawson isn't a restaurant though, if you're the same one comparing fucking Don Qijote to restaurants. Those are both convenience stores (Don Qijote being fucking HUGE and Lawson being one that competes with 7/11)

So how are Sony doing compared to Crunchyroll?

>>13332117
What would be the point, unless you needed to use your phone as a podcast device to listen but not watch vtubers but also were unable to charge it? Seems very niche.

>>13332267
terrible, I think they will end up cancelling the project before debuting all the 50 chuubas

holo family mart collabs

>>13332267
72k subs for Crunchy-hime, 1-2k for the Sony girls.

>>13332210
The biggest fast food chain in japan is Mcdonald and have atleast 2900+ branch while wendy's first kitchen is just around 136 branch. Im searching for wendys japan and most article talks about how it failed in japan. Wendy's collab was not a huge deal..

>>13332284
If you're listening to streams at work, or when you're on the move it's great.

>>13332432
And I never said it was popular you miserable cunt, stop hallucinating.

>>13332470
NTA but >>13331415
though it should be obvious that he's talking out of his ass

>>1333247
>>13331415
>For example nijisanji collabs with wendy an major fastfood resturant
???

>>13332345
This is a different project from the 50 chuuba project. That one won't be debuting until some time in mid 2022 at the earliest

>>13332432
Wendys is so much better but I suppose if you're determined to eat "gaijin food" then McDonalds is sort of the thing you think about.

>>13332470
>For example nijisanji collabs with wendy an major fastfood resturant and that beyone hololive power

You are making a big deal about wendy's collab as if its a major deal for niji though. Im just saying its not big of a deal like you make it out to be.

>Moona Hoshinova
>900k subs
>Playing her most buffed game: Minecraft
>1, 7k
what went wrong?

>>13332722
I'm not the one who said that. I don't type like a 5 year old, and I actually know the stores the other anons are mentioning.

Speaking of fastfood collabs: Hololive seems to have the inside route with Yum Brands! but will that ever translate into Japanese sponsorships. I don't know how big Yum Brands! are in Japan to begin with.

>>13332783
Pegora streamin

>>13329584
kson meme review with Pikamee
max viewers was around 11,7k and 11,8k

>>13332888
Three letters KFC

Almost 80k s-sugoi..

>>13332888
There's like 1000 KFCs in Japan and maybe 6 Taco Bells. Like 400 Pizza Huts.

>>13332888
Yum brands owns KFC
You work it out

>>13332783
didnt even know she's streaming
does thumbnail play a role?

>>13332783
Let me guess, its on the ID server?

>>13332888
Yum brands? Isn't that the the one that operates taco bell, kfc and pizza hut? Can you post the link for holo x yum brands?

So Bae actually passed Fauna? I know she got a boost from Sports Fes but I didn't know she went ahead.

>>13333082
Who exactly is almost at 80k here?

>>13333150
I think Gura's collab with Taco Bell is the only thing we have gotten.

>>13332783
Segregated Indonesian server. If she was on EN at this time she might have 5k. Japan maybe 3k or more if anyone else got on and played.

>>13333164
Total viewers watching Hololive

>>13333164
They probably added all the numbers together?

>IRyS unarchived Karaoke is only 13k
Jesus Christ these numbers are pathetic.

>>13333152
Fauna squandered the RE buff she was getting that was letting her start leaving Baelz a while ago with the number of times she cancelled it.

>>13333082
78,863 watching Hololive
8,763 watching Nijisanji

>>13333152
Bae has been courting Koreans.

still climbing

Holy fuck IRyS your next original better be a broadway show tune. This is so fucking good, my lord. Imagine the numbers.

>>13333082
How do we save EN?

>>13333206
>>13333239
We do that for non events now?

>>13333333
Alright who got this one?

>>13333443
behead susan

>>13333480
Yes, for determining audience cap during specific timeslots

>>13333480
> now?
Where have you been?

>>13333558
Singing King on an inhabited island.

>>13333480
For some reason people do it obsessively with Niji EN, it's only a matter of time before it spreads and we start doing it for everything under the sun including Vshoujo. At some point 2 Vshoujo will be streaming vs one Holo and they'll figure out they can say Vshoujo is winning based on that metric.

>>13333622
Kuzuha onegai give us numbers

>>13333622
you have to stream it kuzuha! you're wasting the numbers!

>>13333486
Fitting

>>13333558
I said non events faggot

>>13333729
Did I stutter?

>>13333442
It will be jap animu song and you'll listen to it

I expect pekora's pokemon playthrough to decline base on her jrpg runs wtf why is this still holding strong viewership.

I expect her whole playthrough after the first and before elite 4 to be at 22k-24k

I know she is doing a soft nuzlock

Holy shit. Sometimes I forget just how good Irys singing actually is.

>>13333020
speaking of kson, what happened to Kanata's performance? I have not seen any mentions of her these last months.

>>13332783
>a Guerilla
>ID server
>Pekora, subaru, noel streaming
>IRyS doing karaoke

>>13333843
She's doing decent mid tier holo numbers, why?

>>13333843
Kanata is such a mid-tier Holo she rarely does anything worth mentioning.

>>13333702
People are obsessed with NijiEN's market cap and growth. Not even sure why, 80% of this thread are NijiEN antis.

>>13333843
Mid tier. She's fine but suffers in collabs.
Strong SC game too.

>>13333843
Kanata is doing great. Just check holostats for her ccv and as for SC she is only behind rushia - marine - lamy and pekora in total SC this year for holo.

>>13333837
Yeah, its funny when people discredit her because she sounds "too clean" Its like apparently sounding studio quality even during a karaoke is a bad thing now.

I think I'm in love with IRyS. I'm sorry numberfags, I've been smitten by the succubus.

>>13332783
Guerrilla stream not in her primetime, lots of overlaps as well

>13333933
Play the victim more, then use everything in your capability to shit on HoloEN when they get a slight edge.

>>13333933
7k
>7k
7k
>7k

Pekkers just passed 30k mark

>>13334100
She's definitely the best EN. Great singer, streams often and fits into Holo JP culture like a glove. Her best stream was the 5 hour Minecraft collab with Polka.

>>13333301
How do we save Niji?

90k I kneel hololive

>>13333808
28k-29k should be the floor for her throughout the run imo. Pokemon is pretty popular and she can get 22k with unpopular games.

>>13333933
top vtuber company releases their EN. How is that not a point of interest for numbers? You can discuss them without being tribal/anti about it
>>13333702
you missed the vshojo timeloops?

Why is pekora getting better numbers for this pokemon stream with this much overlap? Subaru have better numbers today too.

>>13331975
>>13332136
15k right now CAM ON IRYS LETS GOOOOO 16k!

>>13333843
Without Coco, Gen 4 is the most forgettable branch in terms of numbers.

Not low enough to get shittalked often, not high enough to be talked about as the contender for gold.

Towa gets more discussion here because her numbers dip low enough sometimes to be remarkable.

DEJA VU WILL BRING HER TO 16K

>>13334411
its falling the novelty was already gone

>>13334391
>gen 4 is the most forgettable branch
You forgot gen 5 but that's okay, they're even more forgettable

Subaru quietly holding more than 25k while Pekora is getting 32k

>>13334616

>13334616
Shut up gen 5 schizo. All of gen 5 except for Polka hit stronger than all of gen 4 now that Coco is gone.

>>13334741
based

GAS GAS GAS

Niji numbers looks so disappointing right now. Even HoloID is mogging their JPs.

>>13334823
not enough gas

>>13335056
irys anon going to kill himself

Pekora just lost 2 of her pokemon on her pseudo nuzlocke one of them being the starter this is the kind of shit that gets people invested I expect some better numbers with some of the later gyms leaders and especially the champion and despite the decreased difficulty of the remakes the champion doesn't fucks around as evidenced by Shion's playthrough.

>>13334985
Charging up for Splatoon finale
Guaranteed#1 for the day anyway

>>13334411
Peaked at around 15957 or so during GAS GAS GAS. You tried hard but it wasn't enogh, IRyStocrats. GL next time

>>13335089
The possibility of Pekora losing her entire team to the champion should raise the stakes a lot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpmEjKrXz08
funnel stream

>>13335079
I'm not because irys got her 16k!

>>13335135
Not so fast anon

>>13335135
KNEEL

LAST MINUTE FIELD GOAL

>>13335195
Moomay ending probably put her over the top.

>>13335217
ILLEGAL

>>13335171
I switched to another tab after she finished GASx3. Didn't expect her number to rise during the brief chatting between songs section.

How come HoloEN is such a failure compared to HoloJP? HoloJP is even better at attracting foreign fans than HoloEN

>>13335139
1 Holo = 15 nijis holy shit

How come NijiJP is such a failure compared to HoloJP? HoloJP is even better at attracting foreign fans than NijiJP

>>13333020
it's pretty good.
seems pikamee and kson had fun with it and want to do it again

>>13335089
How did she lose her starter?

>>13335510
Some random encounter Pokemon used fissure lmao

>>13335502
So.. Voms was coco side project all along?

do you think for the next EN gen they need more IRySs or Kroniis or some other archetypes?

>>13335588
Irys type but not vsinger.

How come NijiEN is such a failure compared to HoloJP? HoloJP is even better at attracting foreign fans than NijiEN

>>13335588
More irys someone that love to stream every day like the jp senpai.

Goddamn, I expected Pekora to fall off a bit after the fresh game buff. Her floor today is 2k higher from yesterday's stream, what is going on?
It's not the nuzlocke death too since she reached and stabilized at 30k before the deaths happened.

>>13335588
jerma type

>>13335694
sus

>>13335694
who's jerma?

>>13335564
not unless she is Gyari's wife.
pika and kson are just very similar and fit well together.

makes me wonder how big this collab would have been if she was still coco

>>13335681
it's Sunday in JP + Pokemon buff

>>13335681
That surprised me aswell. Subaru get huge numbers too starting yakuza 0 so i expect lower numbers for pekora.

>>13335681
It's pokemon anon. nips love their pokemon

Subaru getting some FAT numbers today

Pekoras hours watched are going to be through the roof this month

https://youtu.be/vETDtaUtYcg
https://youtu.be/vETDtaUtYcg
https://youtu.be/vETDtaUtYcg
it's that time of the week again

>>13335588
IRyS type of course. Good work ethic, good streamer, good singer, mesh well with the rest of members, and bilingual as bonus.

>>13335588
I think they would do well to get someone like Selen/Botan who is actually good at FPS or at least a specific FPS game. She's proven there's a market niche for it.

I kneel
Queen pekora
BEST VTUBER EVER

Next stop baelz and mio collab
Prediction?

>>13336033
maybe a good gamer and leader like Botan type. can't go wrong with having an EN Botan

>>13335754
I love it when enfags always tries to find a reason why pekora's number is big

i could've sworn midday weekends were debuffs, what's different this week that subaru and pekora get huge numbers?

>>13334382
Weekend buff?

>>13336271
Subaru is playing the most popular yakuza game. For pekora i don't know like i sad earlier i expect a decline in numbers but she get even bigger numbers today.

>>13336271
pekora - pokemon buff and nuzlocke mode
subaru - first time buff

>>13336271
Pekora debuffed by judgment

>>13336246
"Leadership" is a super hard quality to assess in real life business positions, much less internet entertainers that primarily work solo. It would be nice but I'm skeptical there's any practical way to recruit for it with vtubers.

>>13336246
they already got Ame tho, good leader and gamer

IRyS had a poll that was up for 30 seconds. There were only 6.8k votes out of 15.5k views. 45% is a great engagement rate. I guess that is why some vtubers do well, it's from the high engagement.