/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>13304363
Based
>No more bait op
So the faggot OP was actually the spammer kek

>>13304363
This is unironically one of the worst Ito stories but people seem to love it for some reason.
Kinda like Hololive

>>13304397
Well, there are at least two OPs that use manga panels for their images (I'm one of them, but I only post if I notice the other Op hasn't posted one yet).

Can anyone explains why PekoMarine is reclining so hard?
What went wrong?
If king streams longer today he could totally beat them

>>13304452
weak bait

>13304452
>If

weak bait but you bit it, fucking kek

>>13304317
>How were Moris songs going before she got the Hololive branding?
Pretty decent actually. And the same question for Pekora, was she famous before joining hololive?

List of streams over 40k peak, November 2021 so far (excluding the ongoing ones), in this format
>peak :: date :: channel :: title

Nijisanji
>55906 :: 2021-11-10 :: にじさんじ :: 【#葛葉BDライブ】Kuzuha Birthday Event 「Scarlet Invitation」
>48851 :: 2021-11-03 :: ChroNoiR :: 【告知配信】＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿。【にじさんじ / くろのわ】

Hololive
>83318 :: 2021-11-15 :: Yukihana Lamy :: 【#雪花ラミィ生誕ライブ】ゲストいっぱい!誕生日LIVE【雪花ラミィ/ホロライブ】
>82551 :: 2021-11-18 :: Usada Pekora :: 【#ぺこマリ1ブロック】1ブロックしかない世界で生き残る。ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>81776 :: 2021-11-14 :: Houshou Marine :: 【#シスターマリンの懺悔室】悔い改めて…【ホロライブ/宝鐘マリン・白上フブキ】
>81547 :: 2021-11-06 :: Sakura Miko :: 【 #ホロライブ大運動会2021 】ホロライブ集結‼秋のマイクラ運動会 - 主催者視点【Minecraft/さくらみこ】
>80950 :: 2021-11-13 :: Uruha Rushia :: 【 #潤羽るしあ新衣装 】遂に・・お披露目です!!!Im BoingBoing【潤羽るしあ/ホロライブ】
>69693 :: 2021-11-07 :: Sakura Miko :: 【 凸待ち / Minecraft 】ホロライブ大運動会後夜祭【ホロライブ/さくらみこ】
>57600 :: 2021-11-08 :: Usada Pekora :: 【邪神ころね】ころ…ｻ…ね…先輩!!!!!!!ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>55543 :: 2021-11-18 :: Akai Haato :: 【#はあちゃま生誕祭2021】お誕生日3DLIVE【はあちゃま/ホロライブ】
>54984 :: 2021-11-11 :: Usada Pekora :: 【FF14】ほぼはじめてのオンラインゲームデビュー!!!!!!!ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】※ネタバレあり
>50127 :: 2021-11-08 :: Minato Aqua :: 【#湊あくあ重大発表】3DLIVE!!重大発表!!【湊あくあ/ホロライブ】
>48723 :: 2021-11-10 :: Houshou Marine :: 【邪神ころね】これが戌神ころねちゃんの正体ですか… / つぐのひ【ホロライブ/宝鐘マリン】
>47511 :: 2021-11-19 :: Tokoyami Towa :: 【マリオパーティ スーパースターズ】どっかん大バトル!【#ぺこマリししトワ】
>46496 :: 2021-11-13 :: Hoshimachi Suisei :: 【マリオパーティ スーパースターズ】昇格を懸けた仁義なき戦いが今始まる───【#不知火建設】
>46401 :: 2021-11-06 :: Usada Pekora :: 【本番】赤組優勝いくぞおおおおおおおおおおお!!!ぺこ!【#ホロライブ大運動会2021 】
>44011 :: 2021-11-09 :: Oozora Subaru :: 【#生スバル】邪神こおねってマジ?【ホロライブ/大空スバル】
>43445 :: 2021-11-06 :: Sakura Miko :: 【 振り返り 】今年も最高のホロライブ大運動会でした!【ホロライブ/さくらみこ】
>42570 :: 2021-11-02 :: Usada Pekora :: 【Minecraft】大運動会、障害物競走の地獄コース作るYO!!!!!!!ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>42461 :: 2021-11-08 :: Sakura Miko :: 【 邪神ころね 】ころにぇがつぐのひに!?やってみるにぇ･･･【ホロライブ/さくらみこ】

Today will add at least one for each list, the 95k+ from Nijisanji main channel and the 51k+ from Marine channel

Pekomari probably gonna capped at 51k peak

>>13304499
>51k
Yawn. Midget numbers.

>>13304499
probably less, Pekora just left and it's now Marine's solo tour period

Nijikeks get one good day and they get uppity

>>13304499
Kinda numb after the Niji tournament getting 95k, but 51k for 2-person minecraft collab is really fucking good.

>>13304566
They will most likely get back to back win. Please ahndastan

>>13304566
Don't need to be Nijifag to bait (you)s since Holofags can't help themselves

It's not even a proper collab
>no voice chat
>usadapekker.PNG instead of Live2D

>>13304636
cope

>>13304636

>>13304636
>no voice chat
Someone wasn't watching the stream

>>13304452
*cums on (you) #*

>>13304566
>>13304617

They have been on a losing streak lmao
Here just to remind them again

1) Marine (Hololive) - 34.7k - Karaoke
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 42.5 - Minecraft (Sport fest prep)
3) Chronoir (Nijisanji) - 48.9k - Announcement
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 36.4k - Rhythm Heaven
5) Luis Cammy (Nijisanji) - 39.4k - 3D Debut
6) Miko (Hololive) - 81.5k - Minecraft Sports Fest
7) Miko (Hololive) - 69.7k - Sport Fest Totsu
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.6k - Evil God korone
9) Subaru (Hololive) - 44k - Evil God Korone
10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 56k - Kuzuha Concert Free Part
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 55k - First FFXIV stream
12) Fumi (Nijisanji) - 38k - 3D Debut
13) Rushia (Hololive) - 81k - Outfit reveal
14) Marine (Hololive) - 81.8k - Subaru's High profile case
15) Lamy (Hololive) - 83.3k - Birthday 3D
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 31.8k - Ape Escape 3
17) Marine (Hololive) - 34k - Bus Simulator
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 82.5k - Minecraft Mod with Marine
19) Towa (Hololive) - 47.5k - Mario Party
20) Alright Nijifags these are yours (but its still 15-6)
21) Alright Nijifags these are yours (but its still 15-6)

7-Day streak by Hololive before this tournament happened

>>13304489
Afaik Pekora wasn’t famous but rather…infamous

>>13304739
They can still win 22, 23, 25, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30 and 31 and tie the month

>>13304761
No they can't you know. 26th is sankisei concert free part.

>>13304739
Nijisanji will have the highest ccv for any stream so they will have the monthly gold medal.

>>13304489
Talents built the Hololive brand before gen 4. Not to discredit the rest, but honestly they had it a lot easier.

>>13304761
Anon your calender reps.

the more interesting thing is how the main pov make the rest of the povs fucking useless.
They could not have that one and have the views funneled to the actual players rather.

>>13304761
>November
>31

Anon, I ...

>>13304739
>20) Alright Nijifags these are yours (but its still 15-6)
>21) Alright Nijifags these are yours (but its still 15-6)
It would be a tie with Pekora, atleast

>>13304761
There is no November 31st.

>>13304822
they just need to send kuzuha to an apex tournament on an uninhabited island along with ecelebs while singing king and doing lotion curling anon

http://poal.me/wxz1pb
veto

>>13304893
S-s-sugoi...

>>13304761
Hololive will also have events that are contenders for Gold tho
>Noel's Birthday on 24th (assuming she has a 3D)
>Sankisei Concert (assuming it will have a free portion and not on Main Channel)
>and uhh There is no November 31

>>13304761
>25, 25
>Nov 31

This thread can't numberfag for shit

>>13304854
The real solution is having only the commentary on the main channel but the viewers must watch the stream themselves for the full gameplay and have them root somebody. No point if they're just going to spectate both gameplays on the main channel.

>>13304854
Well, people didn't have the same complain back in SportFes, no?

>>13304854
like they fucking care about giving their talent views

Prediction for Kiara and Suisei shill stream?

>>13304956
people actually bother to watch the players perspetive there tough. it was a nice boost for the ccv of each pov player.

>>13304549
Pekora is such a bitch. Marine cancels her own stream to join Pekora for a last minute collab on her channel for 3 hours and Peko reciprocates by showing up for exactly one hour to fuck around in Pekoland a bit.

>>13304893
I need this combined with the Afghanistan thing.
>>13304956
It's kinda different, but Niji main ch just sucks up all the views that didn't went to Kuzuha.
>>13304968
13k tops.

>>13304968
>tales
10k

>>13305018

>>13304893
Whats the uninhabited island bit supposed to mean?

>13305018
damn bro did Pekora hurt your 2view feefees?

>>13305087
Who are you quoting?

>>13305018
Well at least she has a reason, her voice is cracked from a 6hrs Pokemon Stream.

But i do notice that Marine seems to be a try-hard in PekoMari collabs (it gives me the impression that she's scared of Pekora getting bored)

>>13305057
Hey that's my cropped image in /hlg/

>>13305069
Yeah, Idk about that either
The latter part might change, but that part stays the same in every iterations

>>13305069
Its a meme among nips. Remember when they send their talent in a uninhabited
island to make content.

>>13305142
Nah afaik Marine just really want to touch Pekora but she will never let Marine do that. That of course make Marine want to touch Pekora even more

>>13305161
well it's mine now

>>13305142
Marine is too nice to Pekora. She rarely gets anything back for how often she helps Pekoras numbers

Look at all these holofags copeing that nijisanji still is the king in japan. That none of their evens can 90k on the main channel alone and in total ccv this shits on the sports festival.

>/#/ - Numbers
>doesn't know how many days are in a given month
Am I missing something with Asian ESLs? do they get a different calendar along with Chinese New Year?

Wait...

Is the EN schizo a Ch0nk?

>>13305069
>>13305166
It's a meme about how the last time he got good numbers is during the abandoned island skit thing. That line is just a list of the times Kuzuha got good numbers

>>13305018
Well she have a job and she get it done. They probably already agreed on this beforehand too
If Marine have no problem with it, I don’t see why we should

>>13305239
You know how /v/ doesn't actually play video games and /vt/ doesn't actually watch streams?
Well /#/ doesn't actually do numbers

>>13305222
(You)
r bait sucks
>>13305239
I refuse to believe subhuman chinks are using their own version of a fucking calendar.
It's probably sarcasm. I hope it's sarcasm.

>>13305239
Anon, please step inside this room would you.

>>13305259
Kuzu is not part of that group iirc but nips are meme-ing about sending kuzuha there to get a win.

Finally 1M

>>13304822
Any Predictions on this?
If it'll be in Hololive Main Ch
>60k

If it'll be in Marine or Pekora Ch
>80k

If it'll be in Rushia or Noel or Flare Ch
>65k or 70k

>>13304822
It's the 25th actually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71oDdO_19MM

Seems like Kiara's stream is pre-recorded
Well, there goes the number

HoloEN has been to a bunch of cons already, even the recent HoloCouncil panel had a fuckton of people. I wonder why cons feel reluctant to invite any other vtuber companies. They must be cheaper than Hololive.

>>13305421
It'll be on the main channel 100% because gen 1 concert was on the main channel

>>13305448
Probably because she subbed it. If she has to translate Suisei it'll took a long time.

>>13305421
>>13305475
Unfortunate debuff.
>>13305453
Because there's a lot more to factor in other than money.
That said, the only other EN group worth inviting is probably Vshojo.

>>13305421
1st Gen Concert was on the main channel yes? 3rd gen is gonna be there too then.
Also, there is NO way that fucking gen3 gets less than Gen1, they peaked at 65878.
They'll get 70k MINIMUM on the main channel, and more likely 80k+.

>>13305522
Why is Vshojo not doing cons

>>13305453
For the same reason they don't hire random no name musicians

>>13305419
Why mc streams always bleed so many views

>>13305453
https://www.anime-expo.org/2021/06/24/nijisanjis-lazulight-members-join-anime-expo-lite-2021-line/

>>13305522
Well, they invited nijiEN to two, but yea in terms of popularity it's really only Vshojo and HoloEN in the west.

>>13305539
because vshojo is not that kind of company

>>13305453
Holo can set conditions for the presence of other vtubers.

>>13305575
Vshojo was at anime expo.
It's up to whatever little management they have to arrange it.

>>13305544
Pekora left so she's doing solo touring right now

>>13305575
What kind of company are they then

>>13305589
you're reaching, kek

>>13305575
>>13305615
I thought Vshojo is a loose group.

>>13305589
based omega

>>13305615
a loose confederation of indies that essentially share support staff

>sankisei concert
100k+ on main channel
screencap this

>>13305557
Jesus, use something new. I've seen this shit posted like hundreds of times already. NijiEN ain't invited anywhere recently.

>>13305453
normies only care about hololive

>>13305657

>>13305641
I thought Vshojo as a company is pretty much machinima but with merch for vtubers

>>13305672
Normies won't attend a fucking anime expo you dolt.

>>13305413
After 4 months.... Given that it even have an MV

>>13305657
if they had a longer free part sure but usually they only give 3 songs

>>13305641
They are loose alright, with their pussies

>>13305701
anime has been a normalfag hobby for 10+ years. hololive has 500k+ subs on reddit.

>>13305657
>100k
Does this mean that a lot of people don't buy the ticket?

>>13305700
You think NijiEN's management is bad, Vshojo's one is even wprse.

Marine is being super nice and telling people about Pekora's pokemon stream and sankisei collab tomorrow.
>>13305657
Hololive is not Nijisanji, people generally don't give a shit about the main channel.

>>13305701
By "Normie", anon means people who watch KnY and called themselves "Otaku"
Kinda like early SAOfags

>>13305453
>I wonder why cons feel reluctant to invite any other vtuber companies.
Probably because the other candidates either have way lower subs, which is what they use to judge popularity and potential customers, or they are yab machines.

>>13305760
Except, of course, for Hologra

>>13305760
They are trying really hard to shill that concert

>>13305453
Because fans have to recommend guests to a convention if they weren't already invited.
The reason Hololive gets invited is because their fans are actively trying to promote Hololive. This is one way that KFP's fanatic support of Kiara helps out is that they can get con organizer's attention so they invite Hololive to cons (Digikomi/Dokomi and possibly Japan Expo).

>>13305421
It'll be on the main channel but just to point out most of the biggest gen 3 collabs have been on Rushia's channel, that really wouldn't be a debuff

>>13305739
That reddit is so fucking dead these days, it's not even funny.

>>13305714
It's a TV size that people can stream full elsewhere of which they already bought of a new vtuber people.

>>13305448
Why would it being pre-recorded hurt her numbers? I would think it would actually help her since there is text translation now.
Honestly watching this stream convince me that I wouldn't mind if future Holotalk is pre-recorded, not like there is any chat interaction for these type of interview streams to begin with.

>>13305794
>KFP's fanatic support of Kiara helps out is that they can get con organizer's attention
Anon, your roommate reps...

Kiara of all people wouldn't need fanbase to help her with convention organizers

>>13305716
Well, given Gen1 concert numbers, it isn't impossible to hit 100k with all of Sanseki, but it'll be up to YT's verification speed to contact by everyone in before the buzzer hits (55ish minutes including the 30min adroll/flower stand portions).

>>13305805
It gets about as much active users as the actual anime subreddit, fuck off

>>13305805
Compare to what? The Niji one?

>>13305805
There's 3866 people online there right now. I just checked.

>>13305853
PMaru worked marvelously around that: she started the stream and left it on "loading" screen (with an actual video, not "waiting for") for some 15 min until everybody was accounted for, then and only then she started the content

>>13305863
that anon might be overexaggerating it a bit but it definitely isnt the monster it was during coco reddit review days

>>13305805
I mean, one Anon already checked the numbers. Engagement is still there, jsut new post count is down because, surprise surprise, no meme review means there's far less reason to spam shitty memes on the subreddit.
Gods I feel disgusting just typing this. BRB buying rope.

>>13305850
Well, that argument can be use with Council, I guess? But yeah, using Kiara is not a good example

>>13305789
No shit that's their job.

>7.4k
>even less than Suisei usual ToA stream

>>13305902
Based on Coco streams I can only imagine: 783 shitty slightly different tier lists, 493 copies of the most flanderized meme of the guest of that week
>rushia pett- oh noes, she will kill you

>>13305911
>BRB buying rope
Stop being cringe

>>13305881
For comparison the anime subreddit has 4480
Meanwhile the general vtubers sub has 507 and the niji sub has 190

>>13158168
just wanted to show some appreciation for the OP image here.

>>13305902
is still fucking active like 4k active user almsot all 24hrs.
10k for events

>>13305916
I would say one of the biggest assets Kiara brings to the branch is her experience with cons and expos.
Even knowing who to contact in an official manner can smooth things up tremendously

>>13305893
Yea, all the free concerts have had it so far (Watame, Suisei, 1st gen).
It makes a big difference, having the stream up and idling before the main event since it both gets recommended to more people and allows for YT to get over itself from the waiting room culling.
Well, for sure there's no way Gen3 is getting less than Gen1, so baseline floor for the free part should be 70k minimum.

now that i remember i have a screenshot of the active users just after coco's graduation announcement. was anyone able to get a screenshot of higher numbers?

>>13305850
it came from kaira herself
the reason they got invited to early expos was becasue fans asked expos to do it.
At this point they already made a name for themselves a succesful stream pannels

>>13306018
nah that was the peak
when taiwan yab happened it was 30k i belive and 100k memebers
>the subreddit is 580k memebers now

>>13305940
I mean, they are still there. There's just less of it.

>>13306015
The baseline should be Suisei's sololive, 42k. You'd think that with how popular sankisei is, more people will buy the ticket so the free part stream won't be that high.

>>13306161
Well, at least the fan art and actual discussion will be more visible

>>13306161
Yes, and things are more tolerable because of it. A few shitty memes is fine, it keeps things moving, but the utter flood on Thursday/Friday when the guests were revealed for meme review were...bad.
>>13305911
Buddy, this board is newfag central and that means a good deal of the people here are from Reddit. Stop being such a dramaqueen.

>>13306015
I wonder what major announcement they will have this time.
They tend to announce major things at the end of Cover produced concerts (not Solo lives).

https://subredditstats.com/r/hololive
I mean it's definitely declined a little, but not by much

can splatoon finals hit 150k tomorrow?

>>13306252
i say 120k if things are good.

>>13306252
I doubt, but a good 120k could be achieved assuming the audience was a little thin today for not being the finals

>from 200k in Koshien to 95k
reclining...

this thread sure knows a lot about reddit. this explains things.

>>13306324
Koshien is a national thing in Japan

>>13306325
This BOARD knows a lot about reddit. That's just the way things are, Hololive got big there, and this board was made as a result of what was it, posts on /qa/ ?(press s to spit).
There simply is going to be a large overlap of people who are there and /here/.

>>13306324
>Compare Koshien and a computer game

>>13306363
>>13306393
Spell cope

>>13306324
>kuzuha 144k to sub 30k
It's over

>>13306252
So Nijisanji winning two days in a row with the splatoon beating holo Jp tommorow and Nijisanji En mariokart beating hololive en.
It feels good to be on the winning team.

>>13306445
>splatoon beating holo Jp tommorow
Lol no.

>>13306433
Learn a little about Japan, please

How many non-streamer staff does cover employ?

>>13306325
I swear to god "Not wanting to be reddit" is the number one driver of making this place shit, because retards trying to fit in go "Hey reddit enjoys vtubers, that means everyone who enjoys streams is from reddit"

>>13306494
Nah it's a recline
>only 3 splatoon chuubas went past 10k+

>>13306445
your meds anon...

>>13306324
>>13306363
>>13306393
>>13306494

You know, this actually brings up an interesting question to me, not sure if anyone ever though of this:
What will happen if the EN girls cover something like the Super-bowl, Madden style

Kinda like what AH did back in the days:
(Example if you don't now what I'm talking about) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SprYzmLNxYs

>>13306445
If Nijisanji will win tomorrow they will finally lineup with their biggest rival Pekora. Last 10 days of this month will be hot. Who will win, 100+ Nijisanji Vtubers or bunnygirl?

>>13306635
It's holoEN not holoUSA

>>13306635
I had the same thought as you, but I think the Superb Owl is not global enough to compare. Maybe the World Cup.

>>13306379
Drink kool aid
>1) Marine (Hololive) - 34.7k - Karaoke
>2) Pekora (Hololive) - 42.5 - Minecraft (Sport fest prep)
3) Chronoir (Nijisanji) - 48.9k - Announcement
>4) Pekora (Hololive) - 36.4k - Rhythm Heaven
5) Luis Cammy (Nijisanji) - 39.4k - 3D Debut
>6) Miko (Hololive) - 81.5k - Minecraft Sports Fest
>7) Miko (Hololive) - 69.7k - Sport Fest Totsu
>8) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.6k - Evil God korone
>9) Subaru (Hololive) - 44k - Evil God Korone
10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 56k - Kuzuha Concert Free Part
>11) Pekora (Hololive) - 55k - First FFXIV stream
12) Fumi (Nijisanji) - 38k - 3D Debut
>13) Rushia (Hololive) - 81k - Outfit reveal
>14) Marine (Hololive) - 81.8k - Subaru's High profile case
>15) Lamy (Hololive) - 83.3k - Birthday 3D
>16) Pekora (Hololive) - 31.8k - Ape Escape 3
>17) Marine (Hololive) - 34k - Bus Simulator
>18) Pekora (Hololive) - 82.5k - Minecraft Mod with Marine
>19) Towa (Hololive) - 47.5k - Mario Party

>>13306683
Yeah, but that means the girls will have to play FIFA

>>13306683
>Maybe the World Cup.
Would fail for the same reason on the other direction: burgers won't care.

Cricket likewise, basketball likewise.

>>13306635
In the case of EN, you need to take a sport that is popular in several countries at once.
What works in Japan will not work for the whole world.

HOLOLIVE EN
> $ 133.684

EN 1
> $ 77.132
EN 2 + IRyS
> $ 56,552

NIJISANJI EN
> $ 93.421

WAVE 1
> $ 33.354
WAVE 2
> $ 22.850
WAVE 3
> $ 37.217

not even bronze for tokyo ghoul

>>13306805
Good showing by NijiEN and impressive numbers for Sana. Should kill a couple of more pets for the numbers

>>13306813
oof, not even with 5 streams in one day? maybe try 10

>>13306767
>>13306777
guys I don't watch school sports festivals but I watched the minecraft one.

>>13306805
Damn Mori SC is good and her cover song will be released in 30th, huge money will continue to pour to her huh? how does she continue to do it in a whole year?

>>13306863
Because they're easy to understand.
There is a reason that MinecraftJP tournament was a complete flop: it is definitely not enjoyable to watch something neither the streamers nor the audience are familiarized with the rules or the meaning of the things.

it's like watching newbies at an APEX tournament (and the reason Choco can get 6k solo APEX but struggles to get four digits on tournaments or scrims): the expectation of competitiveness makes a bad player (or a bad set of players) an awful spectacle

>>13306805
Is this for october?

>>13306805
That's actually a lot closer than I thought

>>13306933
you pass the ball and put it into the net, children play the game.

>>13306947
November

>>13306967
Like APEX
>you point the point thing and shoot

>>13307003
there hasn't been a holo only apex tournament.

>>13306978
Oh.
Yea, missing Kronii for a chunk and Gura too, that's why it's closer than expected.

numbar...

>>13307075
just pointing it out isn't useful

>>13307075
>hahaha....ha....

>>13306805
So hololive en and Nijisanji en make near the same amount with just the females. Once the males come in and bring the fujoshi nijisanji en will probally start outearning hololive en. No wonder omega does not want collab the only thing that hololive en beats nijisanji en is ccv barely.

>13307401
How is that even the same kek? Do nijiniggers really cant numberfag properly?

>>13307441
Also 6 month anniversary for Lazulight. Nina is definitely pulling above what you'd think for her numbers though.

>>13307401
Making ~30% less (or around an entire Niji wave) isn't really the same as making "near the same amount", anon. And this is without a big part from Kronii and Gura too

holoEN is reclining, gura soon will even not manage to reach 10k anymore

mama mio

500k views jesas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bLclfcn99Y

>>13307483
Ah so just a desperate nijinigger kek, no wonder

>>13307578
i know it and you know too: that smug means sex

>>13307576
I swear to god I heard this in 2020 and it's still not true.

>>13307576
Close enough

>>13307483
Also sana's pets

>>13307607
I mean let's be real for a moment. If you wanted your SC read, you're going to get better bang for your buck with the NijiEN girls more often. That's simply because there's less competition for their attention. Nothing wrong with that, and if anything I do support spreading the wealth out a bit if only because Council and HoloEN have a more diverse income stream than NijiEn does, and they need if more. (More VOD views, memberships
, sponsorships and merch for HoloEN vs NijiEN)
Okay, taking off my realist hat and putting on my numberfag hat...
Damnit council, do more to earn and optimize SC! CRUSH TBE COMPETITION!!!!!!!!

https://www.twitch.tv/sakuramiko_hololive

Migo on Twitch

>>13305539
They've done a bunch of them this summer

>>13307483
all of niji are grinding hours and their sc benefit from it
im almost sure most of holoen have 10 or less streams this month expcet for mori.irys and kaira and also are shorter too.

>>13306924
And she still gets a lot of SC on member's streams >>13304996

>>13307931
Damn, wish we can numberfag membership numbers too

I'm seeing a lot of Gura/Piplup art so last night's pokestream must have been a rare stream where enough JOPs actually watched. Gura gets a lot of JP art but it's usually just generic "Gura in cute pose/under sea/saying A" rather than any reference to stream moments.

>>13308083
It's pokemon, every nip knows it by heart so even if they can't read they can still follow along

>>13307918
>grinding hours
do we have novemeber total hours for nijien and holoen?

>>13307401
Both Gura and Kronii took like 14 days break during the month of November. Sana is sana.

Selen and Nina streamed most of the days in November. The same can be applied to most of the nijiEN members especially pomu. She does the thing where they turn on superchats during reading.

If I had to comment regarding nijiEN male wave, then they might pass HoloEN in the future for SCs just because of the BFE aspect and the sheer willingness of them streaming daily while also putting in hours to do superchat readings. I don't mind it and respect the hustle, but there should be a line drawn because streaming daily with 14 people online is bound to have some cannibalization going on. I mean, even without large SC earnings, HoloEN could live off with other revenues.

>>13307886
Name them, name them bitch

>>13308083
>Gura gets a lot of JP art but it's usually just generic "Gura in cute pose/under sea/saying A" rather than any reference to stream moments.
Japanese people don't even get proper English language lessons at school, let alone be able to follow along what she is doing on streams that they can't understand without someone translating for them.

>>13305745
Well vshojo doesn't really have management so

>>13308020
the guy who pulled those numbers from live chats seems to be long gone

>>13308246
>If I had to comment regarding nijiEN male wave, then they might pass HoloEN in the future for SCs just because of the BFE aspect and the sheer willingness of them streaming daily while also putting in hours to do superchat readings
Anon did you mean they might pass NijiEN or are you just insane?

>>13308150
Idk about NijiEN but HoloData on Twitter will release an update today
Mori probably will take the leading in Hololive for hours streamed

>>13308416
idk, irys is pretty active and long streams as well

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>95,074: にじさんじ (Nijisanji)
>51,413: Marine (Hololive)
>30,375: Pekora (Hololive)
>28,013: Miko (Hololive)
>27,957: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>27,396: Gura (Hololive)
>26,265: Shion (Hololive)
>26,181: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>25,717: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>23,970: Fubuki (Hololive)
>20,577: Subaru (Hololive)
>17,740: Subaru (Hololive)
>17,026: Lize (Nijisanji)
>16,300: Mio (Hololive)
>15,730: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>14,612: Miko (Hololive)
>14,427: Kanata (Hololive)
>14,414: Flare (Hololive)
>13,421: Fubuki (Hololive)
>12,148: Rushia (Hololive)
>11,259: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,352: Calli (Hololive)
>10,209: Kizuku (Nijisanji)

A very strong day where 20k wouldn't put you in the top 10

>>13308410
I mean it's kinda possible. I just saw a tweet from a random ass vt topic on twitter where a female fan mentioned "Where are the female fans at" in NYC. If wave 4 gets the same type of streamers as the female ones where they stream almost daily and spend hours reading SC, they might just earn more than wave 3. Combine them with the rest of nijiEN, some day HoloEN's SC might be surpassed. Well someday. Even if they did, they can't surpass Calli alone anyway.

>>13308517
Kuzuha streamed this much yesterday?

>>13308517
Ah the usual 10k median people got in from nijisanji except for Sasaki and maybe yashiro. I thought there'd be more.

>>13308150
https://vtuber-ch.com/ranking3/?gname=NIJISANJI%20EN
https://vtuber-ch.com/ranking3/?gname=ホロライブEnglish
Weekly numbers

>>13308150
>do we have novemeber total hours for nijien and holoen?
>>13308416
>Idk about NijiEN but HoloData on Twitter will release an update today
Here is what I have for Hololive (pic related), highlighted values is the average for the gen / branch / company (meaning hours streamed divided by number of streamers)

Calli is trailing only Pekora this month so far, and Aruran if you include the stars.

>>13308472
November
Mori - 67 hours (16 streams)
IRyS - 50.5 hours (12 streams)

Mori is streaming a lot recently
Yesterday she did 10 hours and today she did 7 hours so far including the ongoing member's stream. She still has an Earthbound stream today e 3 more streams tomorrow (Pokemon, Pet Review w/ Bae and Earthbound)

>>13308676
Oh if you can't read Japanese just put the pages in gtl or smth

>>13308710
>ayame 0

Apparently the dislikes are still visible on Youtube Vanced or atleast the version I am using.

>>13308812 (me)
>*IRyS 56 hours
I wrote this without seeing this >>13308710

>>13308710

>>13308710
NNN...

>>13308864
They are rolling it out by region, it's not a vanced thing, it's linked to your language settings.

>>13308864
I wonder if there's people out there making a plugin that lets others see dislikes on videos.

>>13308864
The """feature""" is being rolled in waves, I got hit by it three days ago.

>>13308864
Speaking of VODs, i was watching both Gura and Pekora's latest pokemon streams and both of them had about 20K views axed a few minutes ago.

>>13308517
Holo 6 - 4 Niji

King got cucked from getting a medal from elite baby shrine maiden YET AGAIN

damn luna's at 5.5k while actually having competition on her timeslot

>>13308955
There is but it relies basically on guesswork and screenshoting the dislikes bar before the change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTaL7srr9Ww

Tower now switch to Mario Party without Holobuff

>>13308951
It's not
For me dislikes are not visible on Vanced and visible on the official app (different accounts but same language)

>>13309071
tower...

>>13309071
Bora Nun and Shiina
>TRIBALISTS BTFO!

>>13309154
Single POV too (obviously)

>>13309071
Disliked for collabing with a boy.

>>13309071
>>13309154
Fucking stop it, Towa. The livers might be friends with you, but the company behind them wants your fans, your subscribers, your pc, your cat and even your house. You can't let them leech you or else, even Bora is gonna take and marry you in Korea.

>>13308995
She's playing DDLC, if anything only having 5.5k is surprisingly low.

>>13308517
Just a normal weekend for holo

>>13308976
Pekora takes bronze not Miko. And silverboy got cucked by Niji's main channel again. If format was different he may have gotten 60k+ and got the day, but Niji use tickle down tactic so...

>>13309071
nijisanji bring no views, but they sure be willing to steal yours

>>13308710
Here is for hours watched. PekoMiko fly so far ahead it is not even funny

>>13308967
They finally culled yagoo's 20k smart fridges

>>13309387
>"hours watched"

>>13309387
And here is the median of peaks. With NNN and Risu inclining to 1.5k, the only girl under 1k is
>iofi
But she only has two streams in November.

Mel is inclining herself into the 5k range which would only leave 5 Holo JP girls below that threshold.

>>13309594
It's a silly measurement but it's one of the industry standards

>>13309708
How is it a silly measurement? For streamers that's what their careers rely on the most. You need those eyeballs glued to the screen for as long as possible to watch all those League of Legends netflix series ads

>>13309594
It's the best single metric about a streamer performance

>>13309387
>hours watched
2 singers in top 10

>>13309789
It groups two very dissimilar groups into a single measure
>low CCV, long streamers
>high CCV, short streamers
It gives the same output for a 100k CCV hour long stream from streamer A and 10x 1k CCV 10 hours long streams.from streamer B, even with both situations not being remotely comparable (in the sense it is really not possible to compare them in either meaningful way).

>>13309870
That's irrelevant, xQc is the world's biggest streamer despite not having the highest CCV and literally no one sane would contest that.

Another contrarian to fit narrative

>>13309909
ES mogs EN by large, hours watched is for coping >>13309956

>>13305830
weren't they all pre-recorded?

>>13310020
Nope. Kiara's live translating them and the other holomem are coming in Live, which is why she changed the hour these are taking place at after Suisei came on the show half-asleep in the morning.

>>13309956
>>13309991
>mystery meat BiliBili tier made up numbers
That might as well come out of Lize generous butt.

>>13309956
The highest ratio of hours watched/social reach is like living on uninhabited island?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kfbz_nktq0

Holy fuck, the numbers

>>13310117
>Give them numbers, they'd look for something else
>Give them facts, they'd start coping

>>13309956
Watched hours, I can at least understand and respect that it gives weight to both grinders and big view pullers.
This? Fuck this nonsense. If you're not able to lay out exactly how this kind of score is being generated and have a third party verify it, you might as well toss it in the trash.

>>13310148
Niji will still win the day, this unironically does not slip.

>>13309708
that's the overwatch league cope metric though

>>13310207
>rejecting numbers
it's worthless because it doesn't fit the narrative? you fucking infidel

>>13309836
Hololive is a failure

>>13310207
I can guarantee they’re selling something like
>increase your Social Reach (tm) with our service

>>13310356
Bah, break it down so I can verify the numbers and I'll accept its validity (Is it calculated via Likes vs follows, etc etc etc).
As is, it looks more like a goddamn advert more than anything, given what their site looks like.

The standard metric when talking about how much a streamer is watched is watch time and niggers here will tell you it's a silly metric. What the fuck is wrong with these threads.

>>13310207
Stream hatchet is trash anyway since they can't count youtube numbers correctly judging from Pekora and Kuzuha.

>>13310148
If it was any other day, then this week would've been all Hololive but unfortunately, some company wants to do a tourney with all the viewers from 50 chuubas funneled into their main channels

nijisanji owari..

>>13310356
Post the formula they use so it can be verified then. Otherwise here is my proprietary Ultra Social Mega Reach Score for November 2021

>Mel: 500000000
>Pekora: 20
>Kuzuha: 19.9999999… (rounds down to 19)
>Unbraided hair Pekora: 17

>>13310400
Social reach is obvious, do your homework newfag

>>13310401
>How much a streamer is watched is watch time
Of course dumbass and people die if they are killed

>>13310405
It's odd, because they got Miko's hours right.
I have no idea what the fuck they're culling from Pekora and Kuzuha that's causing the discrepancy in numbers, and it's baffling.

>>13310511
They must have used “unbraided hair Pekora” numbers by accident

>>13310454
Facts

>>13310496
Then why is the importance of watch time even being brought into question? If streamer A and streamer B have the same CCV and streamer A streams twice as much as streamer B, then if follows that streamer A > streamer B.

>>13309810
>best single metric in the industry
it is not even really hours watched..

>>13310554
I thought that would make numbers higher

>>13310642
>If streamer A and streamer B have the same CCV and streamer A streams twice as much as streamer B, then if follows that streamer A > streamer B.
That’s a no brainer. Things get murky when you get situations like

>streamer A have twice the CCV of streamer B but only stream on even numbered days while streamer B streams every day.
Are they equal on 30 days month but streamer B is somehow better on 31 days months?

kek did some retard here really call Stream Hatchet as "the whole industry"? They cant even get their numbers right, despite charging for it

>>13310704
Well, that's where you combined this with the Social Reach score, which is simply "How many social media users have seen your content".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_media_reach
Yes yes, I know, wikipedia, but really its simply "Hey, have you SEEN this person's stuff?". Which is a good way of tracking unique users etc etc etc.
It's an annoying metric to work with unless you're scraping huge amounts of data though, which I honestly cannot be arsed to do.

>>13310865
Mmm. Spicy. This really does enter possible slipping territory for Niji since this is being hosted on Pekora's channel.

>>13310642
It's because of Amouranth. Watch time became a meme for female streamers due to how lazy her content is and how she basically farms viewers freely because of how twitch counts views. It's plain illegal. There's a clip where Lud exposed how she does things, she basically just watch Netflix/movies with her earphone while doing ASMR and people would still watch her due to boobs. Mods should've banned her a long time ago.

>>13310865
I don't think Gen 3 could win this when Kuzuha has a chance to win finals. At most, it'd be around 50-60k while the tourney gets more than 100k. Just think of the tourney as that among us HoloJP Collab where they had like 140k watching. 160k if you count Korone's game promo.

>>13310958
Honestly, she's exploiting Twitch which opened itself to such exploitation. While they don't fix it it's as valid as people grinding day in and day out.
And I really hope they fix it cause it's embarrassing.

>>13310883
Yeah yeah, nothing like making an “objective” metric to depend on the output of yet another proprietary and opaque layer of indirection.

I can only imagine this a decade ago
>yeah, you have the most viewers ever in the video platform you stream from but … how many people saw your content on MySpace?
It’s even dumber than BiliBili mystery meat.

More than that: a HUGE segment of worldwide conversation (and content sharing) nowadays is through instant private messaging: WhatsApp, LINE, QQ, Facebook Message, and other semi private like private Facebook Groups, Follower only Instagram accounts and the likes.
That’s impossible to measure and have a huge impact on determining “who sees this person stuff”.

It doesn’t cease to be dumb just because some magic dust was sprinkled over it, think about it: imagine if record sales were measured that way
>yeah, artist so and so sold a million copies but some Brazilian bloke that sold ten thousand have more Facebook likes so that ties their score

Watch time is a garbage metric used by coping twitch retards to pump meaningless numbers.

>>13310865
>World's biggest

>>13310958
What's the problem with lewd ASMR?

>>13311066
Ayame is the strongest!!
median 86 K >> Peko

>>13311066
Watch time has been the most important metric on youtube as well for years. It's literally the only reason almost every video is 10 minutes long nowadays.

>>13311079
Makes it even better.

>>13310865
I still can't believe how greedy anykara is, at least give some spotlight to your livers

>Hours watched
>in the year of Tiktok, Youtube Shorts and <2 minute clips

>>13311066
it's the metric OWL brought over from tv because they couldn't compete with csgo/lol/dota in avg or peak viewers. instead they spammed games in their seasons to farm hours watched to put on their pitch deck.

>>13311066
Youtube Partner Program is locked behind watch time requirements you fucking retard.

>>13311144
Session time is linked to watch time, you don't just watch one tiktok video or short, you watch 20 of them

>>13311079
it is, in total number of vtubers kek

>>13311160
cope

>>13311185
Ok, get 1m views in your 10 minute video, then make a short with 1m views and tell me what was your return in both of them

>>13311112
Watch time on twitch and youtube isn't comparable when mute and tab out is a thing on youtube only.

>>13311143
oops misread thought that was an hours watched post.

>>13311240
Because if you're not paying attention or listening to the stream you can't see or hear the ad

>>13311240
Imagine you're a youtube exec trying to sell your platform to advertisers, if you can guarantee a view is someone who is actually paying attention to the stream that's a massive feature and advantage over your main competitor.

>>13310148
as a holobrony im so conflicted. on one hand i love the numbers pekwhora brings to hololive and gives us easy wins over the competition, on the other i kinda dislike her for being a privileged bitch living with her mom and not having to worry about real life problems

The point is when counting charts, watch time should be below that of CCV, not CCV*Watch time. Maybe, multiply it to 3/4 or 1/2 of watch time. It gets exploited way too much, and sites would just label them as popular streamers because they had bigger numbers when in fact they're just doing their 100th react video on stream.

>>13310958
>There's a clip where Lud exposed how she does things
post the clip

>>13311352
https://youtu.be/Upnu1-yXqME
It doest take long to do that. Its pretty recent.

Unrelated to current discussion but pekomari one block got 1M views.

>>13311326
nice blog how to unsub

>>13311399
Deserved, that was a fantastic stream. It was at 970k like a day ago and then it went back to 920k for some reason.

>>13311326
>Asian living with her mom
>pekwhora
Just admit it you don't like Pekora cucking you with golds, nijikek

>>13311425
First it was CCV axing, then Sub axing, now VOD axing. Susan really doesn't make it easy to farm numbers.

>>13311307
Of course, if twitch and YT was separated, vtubers would take a lot of the spots in the top streamer/live rankings. Other than that, Indian channels doesn't count just because they really do deploy bots.

>>13304587
cope

>>13311475
naaah
i started hating her recently after the sports festival
marine is my oshi and it bothers me how pekwhora acts towards her
fucking bitch
wanna punch her

>>13311124
How could you not understand what is happening? Nijilivers are toxic on-stream, and a lot more toxic off-stream. Plenty of their livers have graduated due to bullying. Giving spotlights to some of them would be taken as a form of favoritism and bias by the other livers, and will create a lot of off-stream drama. Passive aggressive tweets will start appearing whistling their fans to "do something", and their fans are more than ready to ostracize and harass the other livers. Hell, they don't even have to tweet, and their fans would harass other livers already. Putting the focus on the main channel is just like taking away the nitendo switch because your kids keep fighting each other over it.

>>13311738
>Plenty of their livers have graduated due to bullying
Someone post it!

Really, if Niji shitposters were as funny as the blokes that made that webm they could really go for the western crowd

>>13311495
Is that Suisei irl?

>>13307018
There never will be. They're Holocraft for a reason.

>>13311912
>Is that Suisei irl

>>13308517
>6th place PekoMari MC
Graduate soon

Why are we so dead today?

>>13308517
>tournament day
>only 4 chuubas went past 10k
trickle down doko

>>13312118
It was pretty active tho? Now it's calmer because SEAniggers are sleeping and very few streams going on.

>>13308517
Lize won the day in my heart.
Female in manjisanji without splat buff and still made it

Someone from toy r us thought it was a good idea to sell Hololive cards at $4 a pack

Although just seeing it from this image, there's already people buying it.

>>13312191
anon this thread usually reaches three-five posts a minute after JP prime time ends, now there's been seven posts in the last fifteen minutes

>>13312215
Anon, that's 41.90 dollars a pack

>>13311859
What the fuck is the context of this. I can’t imagine Pekora of all people dabbing ironically

>>13312250
you know the dab is an actual dance move right?

>>13312244
anon that's from hong kong

>>13312215
That's $40 dollar a pack... A booster box is like $55, and it has 16 packs inside ( $3.44 / pack ). That shop is selling at 1000%+ mark up price...

>>13312267
how the fuck am I supposed to tell, there's the dollar sign right there

>>13312264
Its still hard to imagine that Pekora actually did it. It does make it funny though

>>13312226
Niji won with tickle up tactic. That's the only thing I can think of.

>>13312286
honest mistake, now calm down

>>13312226
Well, look at that pic and tell me what numbers are there to discuss, Miyabi's anal aperture?

>>13312215
oh so toyrus is only dead in america?

Let's play "Guess the debuff game"

>>13312278
>>13312286
It's from Reddit. At first, I was surprised too but the OP said it's $4.

Secretly, I want to buy one box of these cards but it's gonna be my most stupidest financial decisions ever. I'll just wait for next year when they release better art.

>>13312317
why is devil may cry such a debuff?

>>13312317
I thought DMC would be the perfect game for her when it comes to numbers. I think Pekora could pull off a DMC5 playthrough but not the other JPs.
I don't understand though, DMC is super popular in the west.

>>13312317
guess when she swapped to dmc

>>13312333
Don't buy the pack. You won't get a signed one from them because people open the box until they hit the signed card, then sell the rest.

>>13312361
Cur ray zee isn't a genre for normies

>>13312372
her DMCV streams did well its likely just due to the other games being old

>>13311021
>At most, it'd be around 50-60k while the tourney gets more than 100k.
Imagine being this level of retarded when it is well know, understood and accepted that HoloJP3 are the top unit when it comes to box pushing.

Has there even been a unit stream of theirs that hasn't come close to 100k?

>>13312372
DMC5 was fine. Her viewers started dropping on DMC3. DMC4 is much worse.

>>13312372
Her DMC5 playthrough got pretty big numbers, though, it's just three and four that gets shit numbers for some reason

>>13312422
Are DMC 3/4 harder than 5 ?
It might be the other filter
(Playing V in DMC V is easy for Gura)

>>13312250
>he doesn’t have a collection of HoloDabbing
PLEB! How do you even discredit your opponent arguments without having to actually address it?

>>13312317
Fun fact, that DMC4 stream is her second lowest viewed VOD, second only to her second Metroid stream (227K). Even watchalongs get more views.

>>13312477
I only played DMC4 it was very easy but it's filled with same zones/bosses even more that 3/5, story isn't great too. 3 is very hard according to many fans and my impression from streams. 5 is new and default difficulty is pretty easy.

>>13312477
3 is harder but four is easier, but really the issue is that DMC5 is the "Zoomer meme game" so people are willing to tune in to see the flashy lights even if Gura sucks at it whereas DMC3 and 4 don't have quite the same meme power so less people are willing to put up with Gura facerolling through it.

>>13312529
I think dabbing is cringe and my idols shouldn’t do it, especially on stage

>>13312529

>>13312576
Yeah, they should kneel like Kuzuha instead

>>13308253
I know they did anime expo and digikomi