It's not even that bad.

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Anonymous Fri, May 6, 2022 13:27:56 No.8882998 [Reply] [Original]

It's not even that bad.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 6, 2022 13:28:24 No.8883004 No u

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 6, 2022 13:30:09 No.8883013 It's really just that floating back out of pits gets old Just need to change that part

Anonymous Fri, May 6, 2022 13:30:40 No.8883016
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>>8882998
its not that it was "bad"
it just was absolutely not what people were expecting or wanted

a simple barnstorming copycat title with a flying bike and basket would have been more than enough - atari got fucked over by corporate bigwigs during its entire lifespan

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 6, 2022 13:30:41 No.8883017 >>8882998 its isnt, its just bad for an atari game.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 6, 2022 13:33:17 No.8883027 >>8882998 >hi dev, you have 3 weeks to write a game based on a massive license, get the fuck to it! how times have changed

Anonymous Fri, May 6, 2022 14:05:46 No.8883145

The whole "WORST VIDYA EVAR" reputation is pretty ridiculous, but then some people with contrarianitis will say that it's secretly a really good game. The reality is that if it wasn't for bugs, it would be a 5 out of 10 game, not excellent, but nothing to get up in arms over.

Anonymous Fri, May 6, 2022 14:19:31 No.8883190

>>8883145

I wouldn't say "really good" except by the low standards set by other Atari 2600 games, but it's not a secret and doesn't rely on contrarianism. It's just a solid, interesting game (by console standards). The only bug that matters much to most players is the one that makes you fall into pits at certain times when you wouldn't intuitively expect to, and that is easily worked around by anybody not too retarded to learn the simple rules the bug follows.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 7, 2022 02:43:41 No.8884862 >>8882998 Yeah, it's your regular atari 2600 game. Why it made people go apeshit? I can name 50 worse Atari 2600 games on the go.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 7, 2022 02:45:37 No.8884870 >>8883013 This. There's a patched rom that fixes most of the gameplay flaws, and then it's kinda decent.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 7, 2022 02:59:58 No.8884886 File: 243 KB, 800x1092, golf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8882998 I think Golf is worse. But I do love Miniature Golf on the VCS.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 7, 2022 03:20:40 No.8884916 he's gonna take you back to the past...

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 7, 2022 03:23:40 No.8884926 Considering that there's a not insignificant number of games on the Atari 2600 where you can't even be sure if you're even playing the game or not, E.T. easily ranks above average for the console's library.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 7, 2022 03:24:19 No.8884928 >>8883145 it's part of the gen-x myth

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 7, 2022 03:31:16 No.8884938 >>8882998 Who could tell in the atari days? Atari had some bangers but even when I was a young ass kid most of the games were boring or you couldn't tell wtf you were supposed to be doing.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 7, 2022 07:36:45 No.8885241 >>8882998 Fucking kek! Insane crashcope. Still. Just how deep are those scars?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 7, 2022 07:41:31 No.8885248 >>8885241 In english, doc

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 7, 2022 08:01:09 No.8885273 File: 42 KB, 626x417, You. Coping. Forever..jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8885248 >crashcope >b-but I don't understand..? Yes. Yes, you do.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 7, 2022 10:55:51 No.8885571 >>8885273 There’s only a handful of posters on this board that were old enough to experience Atari in its prime.

Anonymous Sat, May 7, 2022 11:51:28 No.8885661 [DELETED]

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>>8885273
>2022
>Average /vr/ user being pic related
>Anon thinks we are still pre-date shift
There is a good chance the other guy genuinely has no idea about the crash, you dunce

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 7, 2022 11:56:32 No.8885668 >>8883027 Movie-based games are not possible now unless it's a game developed from an older movie from years ago.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 7, 2022 18:34:06 No.8886650 >>8885661 >everyone I don't like is a zoomer or millennial Such irony, as that's precisely the kind of thing a zoomer would vomit. Cry more, arrested development faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 7, 2022 19:53:13 No.8886816 >>8885668 Why?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 7, 2022 20:32:01 No.8886896 File: 90 KB, 500x501, 317.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8886650 You overdid it

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 7, 2022 21:53:21 No.8887045 E.T. was the first open world video game.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 7, 2022 22:32:29 No.8887110 >>8887045 Link the youtube video that lied to you.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 7, 2022 23:52:26 No.8887226 File: 8 KB, 266x190, download.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >when there's a perfectly decent ET game on Atari computers but nobody ever mentions it

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 00:17:03 No.8887261 >>8887045 >E.T. was the first rogue-like. ftfy

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 00:23:13 No.8887271 >>8887261 Part of me wants to laugh, part of me wants to reach through the internet and throttle you. Is that what you were going for?

Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 02:07:10 No.8887478

I enjoyed it. But being 10 at the time and subject to whatever mom bought you so you made the best of it probably played a factor. I do recall lying in the backseat of the car on the way home from Sears trying to make sense of the manual.

If I "discovered" it today where I have the money to (and do) own *all the games* I don't know if I'd have as much patience for it when i can just move on to another game the moment I meet up with some annoyance.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 02:34:50 No.8887537 >>8882998 But YouTube pretend nerd man tell me alien game bad.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 02:48:40 No.8887558 >>8887537 Well it was bad, but it wasn't especially bad. It was, however, a colossal flop on a scale never seen before.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 03:00:36 No.8887573 >>8887045 Yes. >>8887261 No.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 03:03:08 No.8887581 >>8884916 I want to go back...

Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 04:21:10 No.8887709

I always disliked the film, it's one of Spielberg's worst if you ask me. The visual design for E.T. makes him repellent, his head looks like a scrotum with eyes, and his neck looks like the dick. The child protagnist is no better, he's fucking annoying. No wonder the game is shit when this is the source material.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 04:43:10 No.8887752 >>8887709 >noooo aliens have to be hot girls!

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Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 05:01:38 No.8887789

>>8886816
Because the lead time on an A game is longer than a lot of films are in production, and studios wouldn't accept a licensed indie title (unless it was clearly a sideshow like an old tie in flash game or something).

Can you imagine Avengers The Game Of The Film being a VN made with semiofficial art by two students in a month?

Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 05:53:54 No.8887870

>>8887709
>No wonder the game is shit when this is the source material.
they could have just made some simple "fly around on a bike with ET in the basket and dodge obstacles" bullshit but Howard Scott Warshaw thought he was some kind of renaissance artist

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 06:03:38 No.8887875 >>8883145 This. Platformers with bad movement are easily worse.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 06:10:34 No.8887883 >>8882998 I think you had to have a guide telling you wtf to do and any Atari game that wasn't straightforward and playable would be a huge disappointment.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 07:06:01 No.8887969 >>8887883 There's plenty of atari games that don't make sense at first but do when you read the instructions. Mountain King is a great example.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 13:06:49 No.8888684 >>8882998 >>8883145 It's not the worst game. But it's the biggest flop. They expected a huge success, printed a lot of copies, and then didn't know what to do with them.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 14:23:48 No.8888934 >>8887969 Mountain King is so damn good. Ported to most everything, too.

Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 15:21:23 No.8889073

People say they had high expectations for this game. What did people expect out of an Atari game honestly?

It's still funny to think that Atari produced more copies of this game than there were 2600 systems though. No idea what they were thinking there.
inb4
>Atari
>Thinking

Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 15:45:18 No.8889130

>>8889073
>What did people expect out of an Atari game honestly?
Something fun, not dull and frustrating? People are talking shit about the really horrifically bad games for the 2600, but those are third-party carts from no-name publishers basically ripping people off.
In-house Atari games had a higher standard, and E.T. is down among the worst games that Atari released, alongside the gimmick-based Sword Quest. Pac-Man was a terrible conversion, but it was at least fun to play.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 15:50:45 No.8889142 >>8885273 nice selfie but you should probably work out if you want to lose those tits

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 16:10:51 No.8889201 >>8886816 Too expensive and too much time investment.

Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 16:12:41 No.8889209

>>8882998
I genuinely believe the game only failed because ET was green
I mean what the fuck were they thinking? There was a perfect brown color in the Atari's palette that they could've used, and visibility probably isn't the reason because half the screens are green

Anonymous Sun, May 8, 2022 18:52:33 No.8889664 [DELETED]

>>8886896
Truth hurts, hm? Keep crying. Keep coping. It is the gaping wound that can never heal - such was your baffling incompetence. It is something the rest of us can hold over your head until the end of time. Best thing about it? You have no reply. Nor will you ever have one, because no one else is capable of such profound stupidity.
You may now seethe.
>>8889142
Imagine actually believing that this qualified as anything other than desperation. Pathetic. Another arrested development faggot with a laughably weightless retort.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 9, 2022 02:27:40 No.8890802 File: 32 KB, 267x373, k.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] you should have seen the original design for the cover

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 9, 2022 02:37:44 No.8890813 It's an attempt to arcade-ify the genre of adventure games, the problem with this being that the moment to moment gameplay of adventure games isn't that fun. That said, it got a worse reception than it deserved because kids couldn't read the manual

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 9, 2022 02:44:49 No.8890828 >>8890802 >ET: Extra Toked >Time to really get lifted out of those pits

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 9, 2022 03:16:40 No.8890892 >>8890828 lol

Anonymous Mon, May 9, 2022 04:04:04 No.8890972

>>8889073
>What did people expect out of an Atari game honestly?
People were literally deranged over E.T. when it came out. Think about the soíboí obsession with nuStar Wars but expand that to all of society and multiply it a few fold. Any merch that came out was immediately bought up by people who otherwise had no interest in whatever that merch was. So when they released a game, you had people who barely even knew what a video game was buying Ataris just so they could play the E.T. game. You ended up with a bunch of people who weren't used to how bad the average Atari title was having their first exposure to the console through a game that embodied some of the worst game designs of the era.

Anonymous Mon, May 9, 2022 04:13:08 No.8890990
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>meanwhile in the other timeline
>ET was just a low effort Pac-Man clone
>the market was satisfied
>Atari never collapsed, no opening was ever created for Nintendo or Sega or Sony or Microsoft to enter the console market
>everyone is happily playing their Atari 64000s right now

Anonymous Mon, May 9, 2022 04:32:51 No.8891015

>>8890990
Could have happened if Nolan Bushnell had just not answered the phone when Warner Bros called that one time. Atari doesn't get bought out by captains of stupid, Nolan hires his own marketing guy, and is never replaced by dumb corporate suits who know nothing about video games. They were the source of almost every single stupid decision that wrecked Atari.
>>8890972
>a bunch of people who weren't used to how bad the average Atari title was
Atari games weren't bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 9, 2022 04:33:22 No.8891016 >>8891015 >Atari games weren't bad. Delusional retard

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 9, 2022 04:35:00 No.8891017 >>8891016 Look at first-party titles, there's stuff I'm not into, but they are virtually all at least decent 1st gen games. The bad shit was third-party jank sold at minor retailers by no-name companies.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 9, 2022 04:40:33 No.8891023 >>8891017 literally nobody back then cared about 1st party, 3rd party, or any studios by name, they bought games because the cover art looked cool or it was a port of some arcade game they liked

Anonymous Mon, May 9, 2022 04:46:03 No.8891028

>>8891023
Then why did the market not crash until Atari published a shitty title, huh? Nah, you're wrong on that. People (my dad and I included) trusted the Atari name to provide good quality games. We knew Activision and Imagic were solid as well, and any title from them was worth a look.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 9, 2022 04:48:19 No.8891029 >>8891028 cool anecdote my dad said that your dad was a faggot

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 9, 2022 04:54:42 No.8891037 >>8883145 all atari 2600 games are shit

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 9, 2022 04:57:00 No.8891041 >>8891029 Does your dad also go around claiming that everyone born before him is some kind of idiot who couldn't possibly understand advanced concepts like "recognizable brand name product" versus "shoddy knockoff"?

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 9, 2022 05:08:01 No.8891057 >>8891028 >>8891041 As far as the vast majority of the market was concerned, if it was an Atari 2600 game then it was an Atari game.

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 9, 2022 05:13:04 No.8891064 >>8891057 kek it was worse than that most people thought games were like vhs tapes and didn't understand why their coleco couldn't play atari games

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 9, 2022 05:15:22 No.8891068 File: 147 KB, 500x290, 1645906457863.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8891064 >didn't understand why their coleco couldn't play atari games blocks your path

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 9, 2022 07:08:10 No.8891260 >>8891064 just tell them Coleco plays Beta

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 9, 2022 07:12:10 No.8891265 Test

>>	Anonymous Mon, May 9, 2022 07:47:21 No.8891313 >>8891265 Failed.

Anonymous Mon, May 9, 2022 15:34:26 No.8892226

>>8891057
>>8891064
Yes, the shitty knockoff vendors preyed upon unsuspecting grandmas who didn't know any better, but the people who owned the consoles weren't morons. This feels like some kind of modern campfire story version of shit I actually lived through.
I guess every generation gets people who think everyone from "prehistoric times" was somehow a moron and just "not smart like we are now." But no, people have been smart and dumb in about the same measure since we came down out of the trees. The crash didn't happen because everyone was too dumb to understand what brand names are, it happened because people stopped trusting the brand names.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 10, 2022 05:14:07 No.8893969 na

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 10, 2022 07:35:47 No.8894175 >>8887709 I always thought the same. ET was a massive success and The Thing was massively panned. Funny how things turned out and nobody gives a fuck about ET anymore.

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