/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I started playing the second game today, and I don't like the combat/movement system at all. What's the general concensus on how the AT2 combat system is compared to the first one, and is there a map button (like R2 I think it was in the first one) that I'm just missing?

I also dislike the characters so far but that's probably just me. How many heroines are in the second one?

Also is there anything I could mess with the emulator to make it more stable? Can live with the graphics glitches I guess but the fps is just all over the place. Been trying some things and nothing seems to make a big difference.

My copy of AT3 shipped Friday, hopefully it'll be here today or tomorrow.

>>7094331

General consensus say they like AT2's combat system, but they mostly compare it to the first game. I think it's fine but I do have to wonder if the whole guarding thing actually makes it easier than the first game, especially if you later find certain equips that extend the guard. Also, the map button is the start button.

There are three heroines in this game, the two you see now and a third one that will join the party late in Phase 2. Cocona technically isn't a heroine but you if you don't devote yourself to any of the Reyvateils you get an ending with her (often known as the Cocona Ending, or Neutral Ending).

You choose whether to go on Luca's path or Cloche's path late in Phase 1. Choosing one locks you out of the other's ending for that playthrough. To actually lock on to someone's ending, however, you have to get to the end of their Level 5 Cosmosphere and say yes when asked if you want to commit to her (you can also choose to stay just friends [permanently locking you out of their CS and ending] or wait till later to make your decision). You probably won't be able to do this with Third Reyvateil until Phase 4. A frequent advice is to wait until right before the last boss before committing (or not committing) to anyone, this way you can get three endings all on the same playthrough at the same time. You'll be gimped on costumes and song magic, though. So it's up to you whether you want to save time but don't get to use the new costumes/spells or use the costumes/spells for a longer period of time but have to replay longer lengths of the game.

Can't tell you much about the emulator as it's not perfect for me either. I think the FPS is mostly stable if you stick to DirectX3D 9 Hardware video setting and have that framelimiting thing disabled (assuming you're using the plugins/emu from the AT Made Easy pack), though.

>>7094331
The map is in start iirc. No way to view it while you're walking unfortunately.

Still debating whether I should jailbreak my PS3 to pirate AT3... I got the dongle ages ago but then started to hear that Sony changed their EULA and might start banning people, so I got scared to. But the system's been sitting around without me updating it as I decide so I can't play shit online anyway... Hm... Playing free shit, or playing online...

>>7094393
You can go online with a modded PS3 and you don't need dongles anymore. I've never gotten a warning e-mail from Sony, either. I pirate most PS3 games but I paid for AT3 (and the other NISA games) because I want them to keep releasing them here.

>>7094406
It doesn't show up as "backup manager" as the game you're playing or whatever anymore?

Hm... Maybe I'll look into it then. I don't care that much about the wasted money on the dongle, it was only like ten bucks anyway.

>>7094406
I'd be tempted to pay for it, but as a full-time NEET I sadly lack the funding to do so at the moment. I might later, though, if I'm still able to find a copy.

>>7094406
Honestly, the Ar tonelico and Mana Khemia games are the only Gust games I like. But that's not really relevant...

The point of my post is that I still need to buy Ar tonelico II. I didn't have the money when it came out. Preordered both Ar tonelico and Ar tonelico Qoga from the NISA store, though.

>>7094364

Hm, fair enough. I guess I'm just more comfortable with a traditional turn-based combat system, and there's the fact that buttons on my pad randomly get stuck which messes with my reactions.
I also find walking around as being clunky in general, and not being able to see the map while moving sucks.

Ah well, guess I'll see if I get to like any of the characters better later on, and thanks for the tips about the emulator.

>>7094416
multiMAN (the best backup manager) clears push logs upon closing so it doesn't get sent that you're using it. I've heard of people getting warning e-mails, but I think the only ones who have actually gotten banned are the ones who hacked in online games like Black Ops.
>>7094420
>if I'm still able to find a copy
That probably won't be too much of a problem, since PS3 games don't really get "rare," but don't expect the price to drop. NISA games tend to stay pricey.

>>7094364

Also oh wow, disabling frame limiting caused the game to run at 100 fps which is just hilarious/unplayable. Guess I'll have to mess around a bit.

>>7094430
So, as long as I don't have my PS3 online while I'm actually playing backup games I should (theoretically) be completely safe? (Well, people said the same about the xbox 360 before and they were wrong... I don't really own that many games I care to play online to begin with, though, so it wouldn't really be THAT huge of a deal to me if I got banned. My brother might be annoyed though.)

>>7094430
What method is best to connect to PSN, anyway? I haven't bothered, but I was thinking of playing some more co-op Demon's Souls sometime soon, so I'll need to be on PSN for that.

>>7094433
You know you COULD just go out and get a fat PS2 probably for pretty cheap, attach a network adapter/IDE hard drive (I think I spent something like $40 for a 400 gig one when I did it a year or so back) and then use swapmagic or something similar to install FreeMCBoot, and then Open PS2 Loader and play games off the internal hard drive. Been doing that for a while now, never had to dick with emulators. I guess the resolution will look a bit crappier, but still I prefer it to worrying about compatibility issues with the emulator.

>>7094443
You can also play over the network or a USB hard drive like this, but the compatibility is worse.

>>7094434
>So, as long as I don't have my PS3 online while I'm actually playing backup games I should (theoretically) be completely safe?
Theoretically, yes. I always play games while connected online; I even played Killzone 3 while connected to PSN 8 days early and nothing happened.
>>7094441
http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/codename-rebug-3-60-firmware-spoofer-v1-1-a-83015/
This is the easiest method. You just install the package and reboot, and it enables PSN access again.

Even if you do get banned from PSN, there are ways to spoof all of the information so you do not appear to be the same person they banned.

Has the boxart been confirmed yet? I'm thinking of buying this after having pirated the previous 2 games. I thought the 3rd game looked bad at first but after listening to "sands of time", "song of the revolving star" and an anon saying that the game would go back to AT1's pacing, I'm really hyped up for it

>>7094490
Oh, and this is the last we will hear of the Ar Tonelico world huh =/
No more touching hymmnos...

It just doesn't feel like the end until they get all the main characters together from the entire series and get them to sing something like exec_phastasmagoria

>>7094433

Strange, I could have sworn I left it disabled and had the game running stable. Maybe I got it mixed up.

Someone said that Mir doesn't appear in Ar Tonelico Qoga. Please tell me that's not true. I mean, in the second game we learned that she came to AT2's Tower in the first place to find a way to restore the planet, and sent Cocona off on a mission to the third tower, you'd think she'd have some kind of appearance in Qoga because of that...

>>7094517
Ar Tonelico 4

>>7094517
She kind of [can't exist in Sol Cluster; it's outside the range of Ar Tonelico]

She kind of can't exist in Sol Cluster; it's outside the range of Ar Tonelico

Are there any references to what happened in AT1 in AT2? So far the setting seems completely different except I guess it's still around the tower.
Doesn't really feel like a true sequel though unless the things that happened in the previous game actually had a lasting effect on the gameworld.

Also I'd prefer to avoid any major spoilers, if possible.

>>7094592
>Are there any references to what happened in AT1 in AT2?
Yes. I won't go into detail, so as not to spoil you, but I doubt you'll be disappointed.

I visited my local game store hoping for an ATQ early release.

No release.

Try again tomorrow.

>>7094596
Oh cool, exactly the kind of answer I wanted. That will increase my motivation for playing the game a fair bit since frankly so far I'm not too into the setting and stuff of AH2, thanks.

I'm only on Phase 2 of Ar Tonelico I. There goes my idea to beat the other games before 3 came out.

>>7094619
Enjoy the first game while you can, anon. I'm on phase 5 of AT2 and I think AT1 has a better story. Wish I could do it all over again just to experience exec_paja_mishya and fake credits all over again

>>7094619

Yeah, it's a long game. I started AT2 last month, and I just beat the game last week. I just need to beat Luca's path and ending now and I'll be done with AT2.

IDP hunting, Dive Therapy, Fan Club recruiting and especially shop events all add up the hours, I bet. I gave up on the first three during the endgame when I realized how many more IDPs that were around the world and how tedious dive therapy and getting them into the fan club would be. I still tried to get all the shop events, though.

>>7094638 here

Oops, I thought you were talking about AT2.

>>7094638
I haven't even bothered to play through more than one route in either of the first two games because of that kind of thing. They really should have had NG+ instead of just a records system.

Apparently the OST is missing from some orders if you ordered it from the NISA store. It seems limited to the calendar edition but I'm not sure how widespread the problem is as some people are reporting not having it and some are saying they do have it. Personally I've been charged but I've yet to receive my delivery confirmation yet, probably because I'm in the UK so hopefully they'll have the OST problem sorted by then.

Since ZUN was asking on the archive - some guy on Gamefaqs got his calendar copy through and I figured I'd post the images of the calendar he received.

http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i478/Adriana_Rorona/005.jpg

http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i478/Adriana_Rorona/006.jpg

http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i478/Adriana_Rorona/007.jpg

http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i478/Adriana_Rorona/008.jpg

And the set together:

http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i478/Adriana_Rorona/004.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5178/5520921102_896e45675f_b.jpg

Images stolen without permission from some guy on Gamefaqs and another guy on the NISA forums. It can't be helped. ┐(´ー`)┌

>>7094722
>missing OST
Hope that doesn't happen to me, it'd be troublesome to have to e-mail NISA and get them to send me one.

>>7094779
Having to contact them to correct a mistake?

...Well, I'll keep my fingers crossed.

>>7094790
Yes, I hate dealing with customer service.

>>7094794
At this point, it takes courage for me to post anonymously on /jp/. Dealing with customer service is completely out of the question.

>>7094814
You can call me and we can practice if you want. I am a nice person and am hardly intimidating at all.

Sweet, new AT thread. Just as I was thinking of starting a new one myself, too.

I've pretty much been in a state of constant excitement for weeks now, I'm just hoping that it'll ship early enough for me to get it before the end of the month. Being a eurofag has never felt quite this hard.

Every day that passes by without Finnel's flat chest to brighten it for me is almost like torture. ;_;

>>7094779

Yeah, someone messed up with the packaging it seems. You'd think they'd watch out for that. You could say they don't have sound tracking.

Mandatory:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zp3fUsb29w

>>7094930
CARLOS!

>>7094930
CARLOS!

>>7095128
>>7095152
CARLOSMIND

>>7095191
ANON! [

spoiler]are you retarded?[/spoiler]

>>7095191
ANON!

Get it together!

>>7094779

Actually I've been in contact with NISA over the past few weeks (I posted some of the emails on the archive) and they're very helpful and reply within 24 hours. I'm sure they'd be more than happy to help you.

>>7094814

I'm the same really. I've even made myself another Gmail account over my usual one just so I could ask them as anonymously as I could.

So, some guy scanned the whole calendar.

Do you want it, /jp/?

Because, I mean, I can post it if you want.

>>7095405
Do you even have to ask?

>>7095418
Why, yes. Yes, I have.

I can skip the date pages if you want, even. But that aside, it's really just artwork from the game and some CGs.

Package tracking tells me mine is at the local post office as of 80 minutes ago. I am excite. Fucking OST better be there.

>>7095448
Fuck waiting for shipment, go there and pick up the package.

I hope ye have yer' OST, though.

Also, see you in a week or two.

>Live in Ausfailia
All of a sudden im worried..
You know importing this game with the calendar and everything..

>>7095478
At worst, you'll get your silly OST shipped for free after 3 months of playing, completing and shelving the game.

But ah, I doubt many OSTs are missing, honestly. So worry not, friend! Then again, this is wishful thinking, but who cares. Europe citizen here, by the way, so I'm also importing the game.

And that's it, folks.

>>7095509
...Or is it?

An extra, courtesy of someone on the NISA forums.

>>7095456
Is that Cocona?

>>7095515
Yes.

>>7094453
This semi-bricked my PS3.

You'll be hearing from my lawyer, Sudo.

NIS emailed me because my order had shitted up, apparently.

I replied saying my bank was being a dick and tried to pay them through paypal.

I then got a confirmation email saying I had sccesfully ordered my Ar tonelico, however, not a single pound left my account.

I'm so worried, I don't know what has happened ;_;

>>7095520
There shouldn't have been any problems if you're using 3.55 CFW. I'm using kmeaw's and it works fine. Also, my copy of AT3 didn't arrive today since the mail just came. Hopefully tomorrow.

>>7095539
Try to talk with Customer Service, again. If you DID order AT successfully, and they took the money, I do not see the problem, then.

Though...

>not a single pound left my account.

How much cash you had in said account, to begin with, anyways?

>>7095556

like £80, which was more than enough to pay for it, I think.

>>7095569
But of course that's enough to pay for it. You should also get a shipping confirmation.

Didn't you check how much the game was, anyways? With shipping and everything.

Ugh, it's hard not to look at the thumbnails so as to not have the calendar "spoiled" for me and make it pointless to buy it. Luckily my mind doesn't remember CGs for too long.

>>7095556
It always takes a while for Paypal to withdraw money from your back account. Wait 2 or 3 more days.

>>7095600

oh, I think this might be what's happened. thank you for your support, /jp/

Why do I only sometimes see purge scenes?
Is it random? Sometimes they just level up their song magic.

Also thanks a bunch to the helpful anon who helped me yesterday. I can now handle hard mode.

>>7095674
You have to shake your controller when there's a red beat, that'll trigger the Purge scene. Otherwise, you won't, even if you have them On in the Menu.

Oh, and by the way, did you manage to beat Mute in Hard? Mind sharing those tips, as well? Because, well...Yeah, Normal is too easy and Hard is too hard.

Finally got my delivery. Fucking USPS and their bullshit 'express mail'. herp derp 'oh it's coming from california so it's supposed to take 3 days to get to you'. Anyway, time to play!

.......I don't know how to open the game box though.

>>7095686
Oh shake it when there is a red beat?
Haha those tricky bastards, no wonder. Thanks, man.

Also beating Mute in the beginning on hard is impossible I think. Mute just hits WAY too hard and you hit way too little without anything to help out. I wasn't able to switch it to hard mode until maybe 8~10 hours later.

>well...Yeah, Normal is too easy and Hard is too hard.
Yeah this is so true. But a lot of it comes from understanding the battle system, which I wasn't.

>>7095674
>>7095686

Are you guys implying that it's still possible to purge/level up song magic or whatnot, just that you won't actually see the animation unless you shake the controller at the right time? I haven't played the game yet, just want to be sure on something.

Also @ Onso: How is the game in Normal Mode? I tend to stay on normal whenever I first play a game, wanting to fight against enemies the way they're "supposed" to be. That and I fear hard might be too hard and require mandatory grinding. If normal is balanced (i.e. you'll still need to heal, party members may still get killed, occassional Game Over if you're unwise, etc., like most games) I may keep it on normal.

>>7095692
>.......I don't know how to open the game box though.

Look at the back of the box. You should figure out the rest from there.

>>7095712
>Are you guys implying that it's still possible to purge/level up song magic or whatnot, just that you won't actually see the animation unless you shake the controller at the right time?

Yes, that's basically it. You can still Purge and whatnot, but do it at the right time and you get some nice gainaxing, among other bonuses, I believe.

>>7095712
Okay I just confirmed it.
In order to see the animation you need to purge at the right time. Finally, that was bugging the shit out of me.

Normal mode is pretty easy but it gets challenging later on. It isn't as intense as hard mode (Which seems literally impossible for the first few hours). I personally never grind in any game (unless I'm anxious to see the next atmosphere scene) but I'm confident I'll be able to get through hard mode without grinding. But for the first few hours, stick to normal and see how you like it.

>>7095733

Normal it is then. "Starts easy, gets challenging later" is all I needed to know. Thanks.

Oh by the way:

A) Are the girls' sprites still stripped if you don't watch the animation?

B) Are the heroines divided by tabs for synthesis like in AT2?

>>7095755
A) Yeah they're still stripped. But they skip the purge animation and you only get a little mini one of their song magic hyumas powering up. You'll still see them with less clothes when you activate it or during the victory screen.
B) Yep Yep. Though this time around you need certain heroines to craft/synth certain things.

>>7095768

A) Ah, figured, just wanted to be sure.
B) Teamwork this time, huh? Interesting.

>>7095768
So, Onso, how are you liking the game, anyways?

What do you think of the main heroines so far, and the combat system?

How many hours are you into it, anyways?

And, by last, the translation, how is it?

>>7095783
The main Heroines are okay. Don't really know too much about them yet since everything is still a mystery and I'm 12 hours in (1hr of that is probably idle time).I love Saki but Chriatina Vee's voice acting is so cringe worthy.

Combat system was confusing as FUCK at first and I wasn't really enjoying it...especially since I was getting massacred in hard mode. Though thanks to a helpful anon, I seem to be getting the hang of it now and once you do its fun and intense.

Translation is pretty good. I like how they throw modern terms in there like "A'ight" and "hafta". And little casual sayings like "Schwing!". Way better than AT2's translation.

Great game so far IMO though very confusing if you dont read the glossary since there is a lot of shit that went down in the past. One thing I noticed is that the battle themes SUCK while everything else has awesome music.

>>7095801

Do you know who Finnel and Tyria's VAs are? Did Cocona's VA reprise her role?

>>7095801
>Way better than AT2's translation.
>Implying it's possible to be worse than AT2's localization

I mean, AT2 is still playable and I'm glad it's in english so that I could understand it and play it, but good lord. You dropped the ball on that one, NISA.

Fortunately they got better since then.

>>7095801
>One thing I noticed is that the battle themes SUCK while everything else has awesome music.

You mean, as in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhS5UY4fgOw

And http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FdFFg-qSI&feature=related ?

I find Finnel's one to be quite nice, actually.

>>7095818
I'm quite sure he hasn't seen Cocona as in COCONA just yet.

And I'm quite interested in Finnel's VA, since some have reported it's as magical and well-fit as Rorona's one.

>>7095818
Nah I haven't looked up VAs yet.
I usually don't do that until I beat the game or if the voice was bugging me and I can't figure out who it is.

>>7095819
Hmm...that sounds a lot better outside of the game. Maybe there is so much yelling and stuff going on during battles you can't hear it all that well. Plus, its constantly changing.

>>7095819
Saki's theme reminds me of dial-up days. Finnel's remind me of MADs.

>>7095832

Saki's theme is simply BURI HAMACHI spam at a worse rate than 2ch itself.

>>7095827
>Plus, its constantly changing.

How are the "changes" in music, by the way? It's still the same theme with different tones, or it's more than a single one?

Oh, and by last, which songs does the OST include?

Forgive all the questions, but I'm eagerly awaiting my copy, myself, so...

>>7095849
>Saki's theme is simply BURI HAMACHI spam at a worse rate than 2ch itself.
BURI HAMACHI is catchy. And yeah, the dial-up tone is what made me like that theme.

>>7095849
S'all good, man.
I honestly can't tell if its the same theme with different tones or otherwise. It all sounds so jumbled up with all the sounds that I can't really tell.

As for the OST, I'm not sure. Thats another thing I never touch until I beat a game. Nothing beats finishing a great game, popping in the OST and reliving those memories. Plus, I love to experience songs for the first time as they appear in game. They have much more impact that way.

Looked at my tracking number link my mail last night and it says it left the facility in my city and is on the way. I should hopefully get the game in my mail today. I hope the soundtrack CD is in there, it would be bothersome if I have to report to NISA about it.

>>7095950
Nice. I'm still at "Electronic Shipping Info Received", what I get for picking priority I guess.

Hot diggity. My game should be arriving sometime this afternoon and I just now finished wrapping up AT2. Glad I saved Cocona's ending for last; seems like it'll lead into AT3 nicely.

>>7095996
Hah. I need to go back finish AT2.
I left off right at the start of Phase 4 I believe.

>>7095801

Wait, wait, tell me this game has dual audio, I fucking can't stand english voices.

>>7096018
Yeah there is.
The english VA is great though. Aside from Christina Vee as Saki. She is fine when not Saki though.

>>7096018

>>7096034
>>7096038
Okay, thanks.

So I went to the post office for 10 minutes to drop off some bills and when I came back the package was sitting in front of my door. Well played, USPS.

Game: Check
Artbook: Check
Calendar: Check
Soundtrack: Check

Glorious day.

>>7096112
>Checking for the usps truck or mailman every via window 5mins
>Getting impatient
>5mins later the ice cream truck comes
Eh what the hell
>Open door
>Package is sitting right there
I said the same thing you did.

>>7096121
>Live in a dorm
>Package arrives saturday but you can only pick up mail on weekdays and only after it is checked in or something
>Still not ready at 12:30 local time
FFFFF and I didn't even have anything to do over the weekend

to everyone who ordered from the nisa store from outside north america, have thay shipped your game yet? they haven't shipped mine yet

>>7096131
Oh god, thats killer.
I would have been so pissed.

>>7095950 here

Well the game arrived just now! Annnnnnd it has everything, including the soundtrack! Thank god.

Gotta resist listening to the soundtrack and looking at the artbook and calendar, though, at least until I've cleared the game at least once.

>>7096751
Yeah, sucks. I Got the package and just locked everything else away until I beat the game.

Enjoy!

The mail doesn't even arrive here until late afternoon.

Still waiting for it.

Augh.

>>Electronic Shipping Info Received
Which in most cases means mine hasn't even been picked up
yay

>>7096774
For me, it seems more common for it to mean that the USPS offices are too lazy to bother scanning it, so the status won't update at all until it's delivered.

>>7096754

Oh I would enjoy... but I'm thinking of holding off because I might be getting a HDTV sometime. I eventually stopped playing Neptunia and Atelier Rorona because I couldn't take the tiny menu text anymore and it was ruining my enjoyment.

>>7096813
I actually bought my PS3 and an HDTV just for this game.

Is there a tracklist somewhere for the soundtrack? I was going to rip it to my computer but freedb has nothing in it yet.

The mail arrived. The game didn't. Damn it.

Pic semi-related. It's what did arrive.

>>7096813
Hmm...I would suggest you indeed wait then. You know how much text is in this.
And the portraits are beautiful as well.

I just wish it had some kind of art gallery though. You can't have such ecchi art and not let the player view what you've unlocked. But I guess restricting it has its own charm.

>>7097233
>I just wish it had some kind of art gallery though

I believe it does, after you beat the game; it unlocks.

Like with the first two.

>>7097308
Yeah I figured it would have something in that "extras" tab.
Thanks for that confirmation.

>>7097074
If it's like every other NISA soundtrack it's just a cut-down version of the 2-disc soundtrack which should be linked in the first post. There's some ddl links out there if you do some googling too.

At the NISA forums someone showed us an e-mail response from NISA about how some people are missing the soundtrack CD:

>''This is sadly a mistake that was done at the manufacturers. When the game was packed up and processed the OST soundtrack didn't make it into the box. We are currently trying to remedy the situation and are going to put up a form on our website just for this problem. Once the form is up, people who don't have the OST will be able to leave a message on the site where we will be able to get their copy of the OST to them.
>All the boxes should have the game, art book, and OST soundtrack inside. Thank you for expressing concern about this and we apologize for the trouble. Hopefully this will not be the case for you if you plan to purchase the game.''

>>7097706
Awesome. I plan on pirating the game, but I'll see if I can't fill out that form and get an OST anyway. I was a bit concerned that I might not get one if I pirated it.

>>7097714

They might ask for a confirmation/order number, which of course won't work if you pirate it...

>>7097741
Hm... Well maybe if I ask around I can get someone to give me theirs.

>>7097741
Why are you responding seriously to an obvious joke post?

>>7097776

... I don't know.

you could always just download the flac version and burn it to cdr

So I hear a DLC pack is coming out on the 22nd.

>>7097851
Whats in it?

>>7097887
Not sure. I didn't even find out about it until a few minutes before I made that post. There's some extra Cosmosphere stuff, at least, but I don't know what else, if anything.

>>7097887
Probably Ar-Ru cosmospheres, as well as Tyria's tsundere, dere, dominatrix and so on personality packs for her CS.

>>7097903
>>7097990

I wonder how much they'll cost. I want to have enough PSN money left to get Arcana Heart 3, assuming it's still $29.99 when it comes out.

>>7098012
Tsundere packs are free for JP, ar-ru stuff costs like 300yen each

>>7098012
I think the full pack is supposed to be $5.99.

>>7098012
If I'm not wrong, NISA confirmed some DLC is free, and those are voiced.

The paid ones aren't voiced, however. I'd say the paid one is about 5$ at max, myself, considering NISA's prices for other games DLC. (Excluding the 50$ Disgaea 3 pack, that's it.)

>>7098028
>>7098034
>>7098037

Whoa, fast responses. Thanks guys.

So if I'm getting this right, Tyria's CS stuff is voiced, and the other character's CS isn't? I forget NISA's reasons for voicing one and not the other. (It's a similar case in the japanese version, I heard.)

>>7098054
Their argument was that it was more relevant to the game's story. And no, in JP's DLC it was the other way around, Ar-Ru's stuff was voiced while Tyria's one wasn't.

I think, correct me if I'm wrong.

>>7098037
>voiced dlc free
>unvoiced dlc costs money

I don't get it. Shouldn't it be the other way round?

>>7098084
It WAS the other way around in the JP version of the game, if I'm not wrong.

Also, see >>7098073

Either way you're gonna get both sooner or later, anyways.

>>7098084
Apparently, voiced = more important = free... or something.

How does the game pronounce Tyria? Is it like "tear-ia" or "ty-ria"?

>>7098141
I believe it was supposed to be spelt like the latter, or well, that's what I remember hearing in AT1.

>>7098103
Sounds great, at least they got their priority straight

And any idea whether the game brought back fake credits? And are they going to be doing the story like AT1's? That game honestly felt like it was going to be the last in the series with all the tying up of everything during the ending and dat exec_rig=veda

>mfw I can finally listen to the hymmnos song in high quality

Okay, just to clarify and save everyone confusion:

Tyria's Cosmospheres - Voiced in NA version (more important story-wise according to NISA), DLC is personality packs, DLC is free

Ar-Ru's Cosmosphere - Not voiced in NA version, must pay for her CS levels


That right?

>pay for the game at the counter
>cashier has this shit-eating grin on his face as he says "isn't this the stripping game?"
>look him square in the eyes for 5 seconds
>open my mouth as wide as I can and go all SASAGE YA on his face

>>7098224
>>7098224
Dont know what sasage is but that sounds like a fun time

Also implying he knows enough about it to know it has stripping, and most employees couldnt tell you anything about a random game you bring up

>>7098296
>Don't know what sasage is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOoSCE_fEwY

Come on, it's even more catchy than BURI HAMACHI

>>7098224
>pay for game at counter
>it's not the 15th yet

>>7098210
The first two only voiced certain scenes in the cosmosphere, didn't they?

>>7098384

Right. Mostly scenes that had CGs. AT1 was weird in that the first half of Shurelia's cosmosphere was almost entirely voiced, but then got mostly unvoiced afterwards.

AT2 was worse, sometimes whole levels go unvoiced.

>>7098384
Well, NISA has gotten better with their budgets and whatnot. The game's still partially voiced in English and with the JP dub track intact, but there's about the same amount of VA, if not more, in comparison to AT1, and miles more than AT2.

...For what I've played since Friday, anyways.

>>7098405
How's the translation and the jap dub is the same as the japanese version of the game? I don't want to have to buy this and then wished I had downloaded a copy so I could use the fan patch or whatever

>>7098519
The game has both voice tracks included (honestly, I don't know why any developer wouldn't do this for a PS3 JRPG, since disk space isn't really an issue and it's not like it's a huge amount more effort) so you can listen to whichever you like.

>>7098519
It's not like buying it prevents you from downloading it to use a fan patch.

Aside from that, the "relocalization" of Ar tonelico II still isn't complete, so you'd be waiting for a long time.

>>7098550
Honestly speaking, AT2's supposedly poor localization wasn't all that bad, and was definitely not unplayable.

While there are obviously quality problems with the script, it in no way hindered my enjoyment of the game in any way.

Long story short, if you are one of those folks who want to play the game but wish to wait for the retrans release, don't bother. Just play the damn game, you will enjoy it and will not regret it.

Saki and Finnel are both sufficiently retarded to come up with pretty good names for items. They're not quite up to Aurica's level, but I do enjoy crafting with both of them.

Just beat the second game. Final boss was a fucking joke compared to Mir. Loved the composer's comment about "gap-moe" for sublimation 3. Was a huge success with the background and how Nenesha and Infel were able to stand by each other's sides for the last time and fight for what they believed in

Didn't max out Jakuri's cosmosphere so I was surprised when I got her ending. And holy shit, Croix has major balls for doing that

Metafalica didn't sound that great for all its hype. Frelia wasn't that great a character compared to Shurelia who made me cum on cat when she had her cameo. When does Aurica and Mishya appear?

>>7099026

Aurica and Misha appear in Frelia's cosmosphere.

>>7099055
SAY WHAT?!
NO SERIOUSLY, SAY WHAT?!

Frelia has a fucking cosmosphere? How the fuck did I miss that? No wonder I don't like her. HOW DO I ACCESS IT? JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

>>7099116
The room where you fight Raki or whatever, I think. (It's been kind of a while.) It's one of the last ones before the end, you should be able to talk to Frelia and Jaqli will suggest it.

>>7099116

Go back to the Hot Spot and a scene should trigger. You'll be able to Dive into Frelia afterwards. It doesn't affect the ending, it's just for fun as Jacqli says. And what fun it is. Also if you finish this sidequest you'll get the ultimate attack spell.

>>7099128
Hmm, gonna try visiting it again. Last time I passed through there was when Raki turned moe after Reki reprogrammed her and asks whether you would like a rematch

>>7099131
>>7099128
Jesus christ, I wasn't expecting there to be a 4th girl considering Jacqli already fulfilled the role of the 3rd.

Thanks guys

>>7099136
Well she's not a party member and doesn't have an ending or anything like that. Her Cosmosphere is just for fun, though you do get a strong attack for finishing it.

Question: Do you have to go in and out of a shop 100 times in AT3 to get all events and scenes like AT2?

..I never liked that part of the game.

>>7099171
Yeah, that was a pain in the ass. It's actually what made me stop playing it for a long while.

I did go back to it and finish it later, but fuck, that was annoying.

>>7099171

From what I heard in the last thread, ATQ apparently doesn't have shop events. Now that the english version is out, hopefully some more ATbros can confirm it.

Also:

>Jacqli: These guns aren't real, they're just toys.
>Croix: So why do you have toy guns with that costume?
>Jacqli: Because it turns me on.
>Croix: ....

I love her.

>>7099185

Looks like they've started shipping to eurofags.

Can't fucking wait.

>>7099250
USPS delivers to Europe?

I hope my copy arrives tomorrow. I need this. ;_;

>>7099254

Yep, I believe the delivery was $12 or so for me to the UK.

>>7099200
>implying she wouldn't enjoy that

Speaking of enjoying, is it just me or does it seem like Croix might secretly have a femdom fetish?

>>7099269
Secretly? He is pretty open about it in the Cloche ending.

>>7099269
Probably.

>>7099277
That said i personally liked Cynthia more then Cloche and Luca.

..All i wanted was to stay with her and make weapons of love~

>>7099283
You have great taste, my friend.

Who did Jacqli mean when she said she knew of someone who would get stronger everytime he was defeated?

>>7099300
Every male main character in a modern work of Japanese entertainment.

>>7099306
I don't get the "defeated" part though. For him to get stronger, doesn't he have to win his battles. And Lyner didn't lose any battles...

>>7099276

And he fumbles excuses when Cloche was like wtf. Even Luca accuses him of being a masochist in her route, and he goes all, "NO, NO, YOU GOT IT WRONG, TELL HER CLOCHE!" And then there's Cloche's Cosmosphere Level 5...

That boy likes his domming women. It's a good thing the mind guardians are too busy lezzing it up or he'd be in trouble every time he enters a Cosmosphere...

>>7099313
Dominating Cloche is the best Cloche.

>Also tsun tsun~

>>7099325
Well, Croix is pretty handsome. You can't deny that.

>>7099325

I liked their little interactions, including the automatic ones you see when you enter Cloche's Cosmosphere after progressing through certain parts of the story. It's too bad that once you decide to stay friends with the heroine or if Croix automatically leaves the CS because you aren't on Cloche's/Luca's route, you can't enter the Cosmosphere anymore and thus can't get the automatic scenes with the mind guardian.

>>7099331
What do you mean by automatic scenes? What's it like?

>>7099331
Yeah, that's pretty disappointing. Though out of all of the mind guardians, I definitely miss this one the most.

>>7099026
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmA5nCFq3kg
[I will be happy to sing for your sake, and to purify the world
Now, I will be happy to turn these praises into a world for the sake of love.
I will be happy to protect this world for the love.
Let´s praise the shine of the love
Let´s praise the blessing that is as beautiful as a blooming flower
Let´s praise our own Sublimation]
I always lose it at 4:40 with that chorus and violin ;_;

Needs more fanart of them against the backdrop of the world!

>>7099351
uruchai uruchai uruchai

>>7099376

>>7099372

I've said it countless times before and I'll say it again. That song is one of if not the best song in AT2. It sounds absolutely beautiful and yet the lyrics are extremely dark. I support mass homicide if I get to listen to this before I die.

>>7099377
I, it's only the shape that changed. That's all... And you're all nervous.
You get nervous around me. Are you... a pedophile? ...You're so stupid.

>>7099388
>I support mass homicide if I get to listen to this before I die.
Amen

>>7099372
Argh, I just noticed the lyrics in the video are better than the ones I was using
http://artonelico.isisview.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=142

>>7099388
>>7099372
The yehar version just sounds scary as fuck but once they started to get serious, you get to see their raw emotions behind wanting to execute sublimation. It's such a beautiful song, it makes you feel like going along with it. Croix's reasoning doesn't really do a good job of going against the song though =/

I'm sad because I loved Mana Khemia's combat system and the way they streamlined alchemy so well and we're never seeing another one.

Release day.

I again checked my local game store. Went to five different locations.

No Ar Tonelico Qoga. The shop attendants even mispronounced the game's name to 'arkotoniliko' when I pronounced it as clear as day. Just saying its name properly drains out all my courage.

Maybe tomorrow.

>>7099497
>Just saying its name properly drains out all my courage.
What? Why?

>>7099497
Do it for love, anon!
[I will never forget Your hand, your voice
Healing the old scars inside my heart
Teaching me the meaning of happiness]

>>7099504
Because going out to buy things (food, games, etc.) is my only contact to the 3D world? It's okay if I'm just going to get groceries, but buying games is difficult. I'll have to say the name of the game that I want, and I have to say it as clear as day so they don't get the wrong idea.

>>7099510
I understand all of that, but you specified "properly," like there's something wrong with the proper pronunciation.

>>7099510

Dont your game stores have a website that you can use to check store availability? Or even a phone number that you can use? Talking on the phone is a lot easier than physically talking to a person, in my opinion. Why didn't you just pre-order it from somewhere?

>>7099517
> Talking on the phone is a lot easier than physically talking to a person
Talking to someone in person makes me very nervous. Hearing a phone ring makes me run as far away as possible and lock any doors behind me.

Maybe that's just me, though.

>>7099514
I get exhausted. I dunno why.

>>7099517
>Dont your game stores have a website that you can use to check store availability? Or even a phone number that you can use?
Usually the website is like 2 weeks late when updating. They have phone numbers to different branches and I call them up once in a while to check on games. For some reason, it's hard for them to carry 'weeaboo' games, like if you tell them the game's name, it's like it doesn't exist. I tried pre-ordering ATQ once, and what I got was 'We aren't sure if this game will be available.' whe they already carried NISA games.

>Why didn't you just pre-order it from somewhere?
It costs less if I buy it locally. I only import if there is no way the game could be available.

>>7099539
...So preorder locally? I can't think of any real store that wouldn't take a preorder.

Does ar tonelico 3 have subtitles for the cutscenes?

>>7099543
Can you not fucking read?

> I tried pre-ordering ATQ once, and what I got was 'We aren't sure if this game will be available.' whe they already carried NISA games.

Now go back to /v/. I hear they're accepting of retards.

>>7099543
>...So preorder locally? I can't think of any real store that wouldn't take a preorder.
>>7099539
>I tried pre-ordering ATQ once, and what I got was 'We aren't sure if this game will be available.' whe they already carried NISA games.
I was thinking they have this pre-order limit. Not that I care.

>>7099543
Some local stores don't like to preorder, especially when they know it's not going to sell many copies anyway. I've personally asked to preorder before and had them tell me it'd be better if I just came in on the release day.

>>7099562
That doesn't make any sense at all.

>>7099564
Maybe, but like I said, it was just a small local store. They probably just didn't want to have to deal with it, because not many people ever asked to preorder there.

Finnel: "What!? Why do I have to give him my diving virginity"

Seriously, NISA?

>>7099539

Really? Most stores provide free delivery these days unless you live in some extremely remote area which I doubt considering you have 5 game shops relatively local. Ordering from somewhere like Amazon also means no interaction with the retards that seem to get hired in most game shops too.

>>7099568
is the translation wrong?

>>7099569

Well usually it's less blatant. Having Finnel come out of nowhere with "Why does he have to take my virginity?" just seems strange..

>>7099569
NISA translations are almost always awful for every line. In fact, in both Phantom Brave and Zettai Hero Project, I clearly remember lines translated from a single word into an entire goddamn paragraph which has nothing to do with the conversation. Apparently just because NISA thinks it's funny to rewrite the script from scratch.

>>7099575

Also this localisation just seems retarded. I thought the 10 minute video showing the start of the game was bad but when shopkeepers are coming out with stuff like "Fo' sho'" it just makes me want to punch someone.

>>7099579
Oh, really? That's kind of disappointing, I'd hoped they'd improved some since AT2.

>>7099588

Don't get me wrong, I have absolutely no idea if the translation quality is terrible or not but it just seems very localised for an American audience.

>>7099492
I have faith that another Mana Khemia game will be released, starring both Anna and Flay with the obligatory Pamela appearance.

Well while waiting for AT3 to arrive I decided to start playing Trinity Universe..

>Delicious Tsubaki
>Ayana Taketatsu voicing her
>DAT ANIMATED SPRITE

I can see myself enjoying this.

>>7099593
I must admit, while I know that may bother some people, I, myself, like it. It's not as faithful of the script, but it flows and reads well, nonetheless.

>>7099710

It flows and reads well? What? The previous two games have had standard translations making everything seem normal. Now you go into AT3 and everyone sounds like a black American calling everyone their homie and coming out with slang like fo' sho' and brah. I'll take my proper English over this rubbish, thanks.

>>7099745
Oh, come on. They're actually talking like teenagers, for one.

As I said, I can see why you dislike it, though I even LIKE it, myself.

>>7099747

I never talked like that when I was a teenager. And last I checked Ar Ciel (Or more specifically Sol Cluster) was not America.

>>7099754
I must say, however, it does give the game a certain feel of colloquialism- though that itself is not a bad thing.

In fact, I like it since said slangs avoid the dialogue of being too...bland and common, I guess? In my opinion, that's it.

>>7099745
>>7099745
>everyone sounds like a black American
ARE YOU FUKING KIDDING ME??

Anyone knows where this is from?

EXEC_over.METHOD_SUBLIMATION/.~emptiness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVB2GDW9N10

>>7099026
>>7099055
I just finished her cosmosphere! Shit was so worth it. She's ALOT more outspoken than in real life.

It was more interesting than Shurelia's for one. Chester got turned into a moe-loving creep, Shurelia going out of character and calling Miwa, "Mir" and asking her whether she was going to change the story again. Mir said that she was going to show her something nolstagic and summoned the final boss from the previous game. Fuck yes!
Best part have to be the end where Aurica, Misha and Shurelia appeared and congratulated Croix for completing the cosmosphere. Nearly burst out half crying and smiling when the song was called "Phantasmagoria". That was really sweet when it was filed under "those memories"

>>7099948
The part where they first started to float up before the stars and shit disappeareD?

>>7099964
Now you're ready for the flash-based extra Cosmosphere scenarios, it fills up the gaps in the story.

>>7099982
>Latest Toukousphere Translation:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere/Special_Issue_5
These? Oh boy, I wonder when I can finally start on the 3rd game with all these extras

And i couldn't find the last 2 talk topics for Jackuri's Level 8 cosmosphere

>>7099990
>And i couldn't find the last 2 talk topics for Jackuri's Level 8 cosmosphere

One is an missable talk topic you have to backtrack for.

The other consists of you getting at least 80% of the IPDs.

...Yeah.

>>7099990
I mean these.
http://ar-ciel.org/uploads/miz/tks/2avs/

>>7100003
Oh man that made me upset and buttmad the first time i played AT2.
But then i got Cocona end and it was kinda alright.

.:There aint anything like this in AT3 right?

I got 100% of the IPDs. And then used max power Replekia on the final boss. Because I am a badass. Or have way too much free time. One of the two.

>>7100029
I got all of the IPDs as well, probably because I hate myself. There's a certain amount of satisfaction to be had from hitting the last boss for 450k with a Replekia-charged Phantasmagoria -- the idea alone tickles me: Shurelia charing up her tower to bounce a laser beam off of a orbital reflector to shoot en enemy halfway around the world, and that laser being further amplified by Cloche's own personal attack satellite -- but I'm not quite sure it was worth the 8 or so extra hours I had to spend getting them all into the fan club.

>>7100100
Though the satisfaction is diminished a bit when you've already shaved off more than half of the boss's health with your vanguards just trying to charge the thing. Man, that was the one thing that annoyed me about combat in AT2, it got so ridiculously easy near the end that I couldn't even overkill the bosses right, because none of them lived long enough for my song magic to finish charging.

>>7094311
What are the best settings for AT2 in pcsx2?
The battle sprites have weird black lines and sometimes part of the sprites are missing, in blocks.

My copy of AT3 still isn't here, I'm pretty mad.

>>7100260
Neither is mine.
Lets hold hands and be mad together.

>>7100292
Okay.

>>7100260
I got mine yesterday.

Sorry to hear that, bro.

>>7100003
>getting at least 80% of the IPDs.

JESUS CHRIST

>>7100024
Get out of the picture awkwardly drawn Croix, you're ruining it! Also not enough lensflare!

>>7100003
>you have to backtrack for.
Oh and where?

>>7100350
You miss her ending if you don't collect said IPDs or miss that certain, I repeat, MISSABLE, Talk Topic.

It's pretty rage-worthy when you first go thinking "OH YEAH JACQLI I FUCKING LOVE YOU SO MUCH" and then you hit that wall, noticing you are forced to:

Do 5 hours of grind to get her ending, or...

Give up and do her ending in another route.

Man, shit sucked. Real hard. I did the former. I don't regret one bit.

>>7100024
And I love you. Thanks for the link. OP's post should include it!

And these cute girls are going to be saying fo' sho?

>>7100361
You have to go to a Forest I forgot the name of and pick up the Talk Topic before it disappears for plot reasons. That's for unlocking her Level 8 CS.

After it disappears, you're fucked.

>>7100365
>I repeat, MISSABLE, Talk Topic.
No fucking way :O
Where is it? I still got her song though, it just doesn't feel good without completing it

>>7100370
OH OH OH
THAT FOREST NEAR LUCA'S HOME THAT SUPPOSEDLY HAVE RUMORS OF A FUCKING DRAGON? I was pretty sure I searched the entire area and didn't see anything :O

Know anything about the treasure in moon culvert? Is that another talk topic?

>>7100374
I'm not really sure. Either way, it's been two years since I touched AT. However, since I'm a nice guy and everything, I'll leave a Talk Topic guide I'm sure you've already checked: http://www.neoseeker.com/resourcelink.html?rlid=189521

>>7100388
Woah, thanks for that
And no, didn't use guides actually. Not even for the first game because I get intimidated by the number of blank boxes and know I have to get every single one of them if i get my hands on a guide

>>7100371
>>7100374

>:O

Please stop that.

He's not breaking any rule. If he wants to do that, let him be.

>>7100445
And I was replying you >>7100422

>>7100445
Thanks..

>>7099948

I really hated the fact that it only lasts about 10 seconds before it gets changed back into the generic trouble theme. When I first got to this part, it kind of gave me chills. This song playing while the world was getting dark, the sky vanishing, and all the people looking on scared, it really felt like, "Doomsday is here."

The song itself should have been longer, too.

>>7099347

Sorry for late reply. When you're passed certain points in the story, when you enter the Cosmosphere (Cloche's at least, though I'm sure Luca's the same way), Croix and the mind guardian will have a conversation, usually with Croix asking something about the past. For instance, Croix asks Infel if she was one of the maidens from 400 years ago after Promise Hill.

Been hours and I still can't get over this song
[I will concentrate in not forgiving even the slightest mistake
Let's praise, so the sinners can be judged
Let´s praise because the radiance of the dawn will not disappear
Let´s praise our own Sublimation]

>>7100445

You must be new here.

>>7100475
The worst part is the "generic trouble theme" wasn't even as good as the first game's. Love the distorted hymnos chant from that

>>7100481
No problem
Oh, I got that too. I think I got it when I was in a cosmosphere level so I thought it was just a standard event. They aren't missables, right?

>>7100365

It's still possible to enter Jacqli's Level 8 Cosmosphere without getting 80 IDPs, you just have to do some synthesizing. Getting the costume talk topic for Level 8 helps, too. See the talk topic guide.

>>7100490
>you just have to do some synthesizing
FUCK YES
My favourite part of the game ever since they made it more organized

I'm glad to see some people share my rage with the whole IDP thing. In fact, the IDP system in general is rageworthy. High-level IDPs harder than the final boss that you have to grind for (or abuse save states); then you have to do that really, really mess of a dive therapy (what a disappointment, especially after all I hear about it from Luca and NPCs); THEN you have to do a buncha shit for them to get them into the fan club. That's a good 10-20 extra hours for the IDPs alone.

Thank god it looks like ATQ doesn't have this shit.

>>7100497
Delicious.

So where has everyone been buying AT3? Just direct from NISA?

>>7100508

Bought the calendar set from NISA, got mines in mail today. Will hold off playing it until I get an HDTV.

>>7100505
I enjoyed the combat challenge for them, since it was actually difficult to kill a few of them (there was one about midway through the game that would always spam +4k heals). But overall the grind to get them all in was a real drag.

>>7100505 here

Also slightly annoyed at the fact that there are dual talk topics for leaving the captured IDPs uncured. I believe there's a 30+ uncured IDP topic. So you can't even cure IDPs the moment you capture them so you won't get piled up later because you'll miss two or three dual topics otherwise.

Yeesh. You know, as powerful as the IDPs are, maybe they should have just banded together and destroy the big bad instead of angsting in some corner of a dungeon.

>>7100536
Just a minor correction for you: it's IPD, Infel Phira Dependency. not IDP.


Well, sheesh. I still dunno what to think about AT3. People say it's the best out of the whole series but from what I've seen so far I don't like any of the characters besides Tyria thanks to her VA being Maaya Sakamoto and cute derpiness, I miss the 2D sprites and semi-3D environments (it just doesn't feel like AT without this, imo) and the general lack of Mir saddens me.
It's not like I'll get to play it anytime soon though, as I neither have a PS3 nor the money to buy one (yet). But... yes, I have my concerns.

>>7100508
I bought the calendar set from NISA. I hope it actually comes tomorrow, I would've pirated it to play ahead of time but it still hasn't been uploaded anywhere.

>>7100639
>Just a minor correction for you: it's IPD, Infel Phira Dependency. not IDP.

Crap. I keep getting taht mixed up.

>>7100639
>Just a minor correction for you: it's IPD, Infel Phira Dependency. not IDP.

Crap. I keep getting that mixed up.

Just hit Phase 4 in AT2, how much do I have left?

And oh my God Frelia is so flat I want to slap her chest with my dick.

>>7100684

There are 5 phases in total.
Hang in there!

>>7100717
Hong long are 4 and 5? Because I spent 2 hours of Phase 3 getting shop events then like 20 minutes in the actual plot.

>>7100639
I really like the 3D character models. They're sharp and colorful and sometimes you can see Finnel's ass. The fully 3D environments, however, are rather bland, although maybe that's just because I'm still early in the game and everything is rocks.

>>7100735

In my case Phase 3 and 4 were the longest. (including grinding and everything)
It's been a while since I played it but I thought were sort of equal in length and 5 being very short.

but I'm not 100% sure.

>>7100784
I agree, the enviorments and textures of backgrounds are rather bland. However, the 2D and 3D mixture works REALLY well in towns, and sometimes the game goes all artistic, I.E. when Aoto climbs any ladder and the skybox looks all symmetric and awesome.

Just wish some character models were more detailed, though, but at least GUST got even better with Totori.

my copy was shipped this morning .. now i just have to wait A WHOLE WEEK to get it .

that's funny how close from the USA i live ..yet my copy has to travel around the world ...

>>7100789
>Just wish some character models were more detailed, though, but at least GUST got even better with Totori.

Gust improved big team with Totori. It looks almost exactly like the concept art, it's beautiful.

And those were some fast improvements, too. Atelier Rorona was their first fully 3D game. Totori is their third.

>>7100806
It's most likely because of customs, bro.

>>7100807
Yes, I've looked at screenshots. Hopefully NISA announces Totori soon.

>>7100357
That's not Croix. That's Raki's first victim.

>>7100819

I looked at wikipedia. According to it:

Rorona came out in Japan in June 2009. Ar Tonelico III came out in January 2010. Totori came out in June 2010.

In other words, all three games were developed relatively close to each other. And the graphics get a major upgrade with each game. Dayum.

>>7100843
I can only assume that these games are all experiments to make sure they can make the game look as beautiful as possible before finally making Atelier Anna.

>>7100843
Though AT and Atelier development groups are different ones, if I'm not wrong.

AT games are developed by a very small set of people and re-using assets from other Gust games. Atelier games are Gust's heavy hitters, so far.

Either way, yeah, I know that already. Wonder if Gust hit a graphical ceiling with Totori, though, since Meruru doesn't look all that different, at least looking at the off-screen shitty resolution images I've seen.

>>7100784
>and sometimes you can see Finnel's ass

That's about as good a reason as any, I suppose.

>>7100784

I thought Tyria was the ass girl?

>>7100850
>He thinks Anna will even get her own game

Even Pamela is more important, franchise-wise, than her. I wouldn't mind a Yakuza: Kenzan-ish game with Gust's visual style featuring Anna as the main character, though.Yeah, right. As if.

>>7100859
A man can dream! But yes, I know what you say is true. The day Anna gets her own game will be the day when Flay gets a game revolving around his rise as a supervillain in order to ensure that a hero of justice is always necessary, to be released on the same day that ZUN releases a Touhou game starring Mima.

I really miss Anna.

>>7100850
>>7100859
>>7100868

Excuse me but who is Anna and why is she so popular? I've only played a few Ateliers... Iris 1 and some of Rorona, so I'm not familiar with most characters. I did get Mana Khemia 1 recently, just haven't played it yet.

Can't respond due to having to leave the house. (In before collective gasps.)

>>7100880
She's from Mana Khemia.

Atelier Puniyo or Atelier Anna, which one would get a game first?

Anna was pretty amusing but it felt like she kinda lacked screentime overall.
Puniyo in Mana Khemia 2 was amazing though

This hit the bump limit already?

Kind of quick for one of those threads.

>>7100935
Anna, of course.

>>7100784
>Finnel's ass

Okay, 1:0 for 3D then, I guess. From what I've heard about teh characters though their only redeeming point seems to be their body designs. Not like I really can talk about them, sure, but it is kind of a turn-off... I expected a great set of characters for the final game, not a bunch of "Uhm, okay, so these are the heroes..."-types (which is what they strike me as so far).
I will still play it, if I ever get a PS3, but I have my concerns that it just won't feel like the AT I love what with the lack of any of the original characters and designs.

We hit bump limit quickly this time. New thread?

FEATURING JOHNNY YONG BOSCH AS TATSUMI

Fucking wonderful, NISA. I'm still laughing.

>>7101497
Go ahead.

New thread: >>7101567