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*AHEM*

*ting ting ting*

https://www.c-span.org/video/?455899-1/federal-reserve-chair-powell-holds-news-conference-december-meeting

>> No.12167649

How will this affect bitcoin?

>> No.12167650

we're crashing this economy with no survivors

>> No.12167658

>>12167650
the have to hold the interest as is or this >>12167650

>> No.12167704

>>12167658

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee + 0.25%

>> No.12167715
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OH NO NO NO NO

>> No.12167766
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AAAA WHAT THE FUCK JUST JUST JUST JUST JUST

NOOOOOO

>> No.12167777

>>12167715
>opt to raise rates
>language implies that things aren't as hot as they were in November when rates weren't raised

What did JP mean by this?

>> No.12167797

well the justening has began
trump will be a single termer and the next one will be socialist

>> No.12167866

boomers getting absolutely REKT just in time for xmas

>> No.12167869
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I TRIED SO HARD

>> No.12167870

>>12167715
Motherfuckers, doing it to spite Trump. I am almost certain of that. They want him out, no matter the cost.

>> No.12167893

>>12167870

tidf plz go
>>>/pol/

>> No.12167906

>>12167870
>Muh steel and coal
>Muh tarifffffffs
>Muh globalists bad m'kay?
>Muh WAGA
Thanks Blumpf ?

>> No.12167912

>>12167870
Cringe

>> No.12167917
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BOOMERS BTFO

>> No.12167928

>>12167906
hehe fucking gottem

upvoted +1

>> No.12167954

>>12167870
Back in your basket

>> No.12167964

...now what

>> No.12167967
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They did exactly what they said they were going to and the Boomer market is shitting their pants. Did they all collectively think some tweets from Trump were going to change the mind of an institution as old as the fed?
Their generation cannot die fast enough.

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BULLS

HAVE

ARRIVED

>> No.12168110

FOLLOW UP REPORT

OH OH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fggHPABDEXc

L I V E N O W

>Overall financial conditions have become less conductive to growth

WORRY

>> No.12168139

>>12167893
>>12167906
>>12167912
>>12167954
I never said I'm a Trump supporter idiots. I just said that they are doing it to get rid of him, or do you brainlet think that these are reasonable, good moves? There is no need to raise rates at this pace or did we forget how many times the rates were raised during the 2008 recovery?
Or that FED in general is great for the economy?

Because if you do then there's no hope for you.

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>>12167649

>> No.12168171
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Nothing unexpected is happening

>> No.12168175

Why did the rate hike tank the market?

>> No.12168183
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12168183

No joke
SELL SELL SELL
E
L
L

>> No.12168189

This confirms we're on schedule for a recession next year

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>>12168189

>> No.12168203

>>12167777
checked

>> No.12168211

>>12167870
The board has been invaded by leftist shills. You aren’t alone. They just want to shut you up and disenfranchise you.

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>>12167649

>> No.12168247

>>12168211
Got it frien. 4channel is not working well for biz/
Lefties and money making, a very interesting oxymoron.

>> No.12168253

>>12168199
Dubs confirm. But seriously, the gravy train is over

>> No.12168254
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>>12168247
>>12168211
SIEG HEIL

>> No.12168275

>>12168254
Oh wait, so if I'm not a leftie and actually can think for myself then I'm a Nazi?
Ok then
Seigel hail to you to idiot.

>> No.12168299
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THE RIDE

N E V E R E N D S

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>>12168275

>> No.12168323

>>12168166
So we can expect 3x?

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>>12168323
If just one percent of the assets in offshore tax haven bank accounts come into bitcoin... 2.8 million dollars per bitcoin

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12168345

MAGA
thank you blessed trump

>> No.12168349

>>12168339
never ganna happen

>> No.12168379

We are so fucked.

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OH MY FUCKING GODDDDDDD

JUUUUUST

>> No.12168496

>>12168491
yikes. boomers BTFO

>> No.12168529

>>12167866
Just move your money to CDs lol
Gonna drop 20k on 5yr while the market chills for a while.
If the market nose dives gonna buy s&p and nasdaq for pennies and make God money

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>2494
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>> No.12168690

>>12167870

q predicted this

>> No.12168693

i wish it was a 22.25% interest rate.

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>>12167625

>> No.12168731

>The stock market can barely survive at this point and it's not even at 3% interest rates yet.
You niggers are so fucking stupid. This isn't even about Trump you fucking mongs. It's either this or have inflation skyrocket to the moon.

>> No.12168746

>>12168731
Who's the dumb one now? Inflation is a GOOD thing. Bigger is better.

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>>12168731
but inflation was below expectations, fuck you talking about?

>> No.12168757

Question. If we do enter into another recession and people lose their jobs, are they more likely to get into crypto to start making money? Would crypto be one of the best investments you can make? If so which ones?

>> No.12168767

>>12168757
man fuckoff with your crypto shit and let the big boys talk you dumb faggot nigger

>> No.12168781

>>12168746
Not if the potential for it to reach Venezuela levels.
>>12168752
T. Person who thinks in the present and not in the future.

>> No.12168790

>>12168757
Why do you think whales started pumping the other day. They'll trigger boomer FOMO while their stocks evaporate

>> No.12168796

>>12168781
>T. Person who thinks in the present and not in the future.

OK so inflation goes up in 6-12 months from now. They can just raise rates then. A lil bit of inflation isnt ganna hurt anybody

>> No.12168799

>>12168757
>people lose their jobs & are short on cash, struggling to make ends meet
>"I know, lets put out last bit of money into bitcoin instead of food!"

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>>12168757
(((they))) already cashed out their stocks at peak in October and now theyre buying BTC. thats why its pumped.

In january they transferred all the wealth from the BTC investing zoomers. Today they are cashing out from the stock-boomers, who have much much more invested. Its ganna be LIT

>> No.12168821

>>12168790
That’s what I was speculating but I wanted confirmation. How high do you think btc will go?

>> No.12169060

>>12168821
50-80k in a few months nearly guaranteed. Do not sell any Bitcoin below 30k although you will be tempted greatly.

>> No.12169080

>>12168757
>Well, lost my job. Stocks are completely fucked. Can barely afford my rent. I know, I'll leave my money in this highly volatile asset that constantly collapses 15 percent of its value every single week!

>> No.12169085

>>12168796
>>12168746
You're retarded. Where do you think the freshly-created money goes? Not in your pockets, that's for sure. You don't win by inflation, the only thing it does is it hurts anybody who's not on the receiving end of the new cash.

>> No.12169092

>>12169060
You're a fucking moron if you actually believe BTC is going above its ATH in a recession let alone above 5K in 2019. I think it's more likely we'll see double digit bitcoins if there's an actual financial crisis coming.

>> No.12169099

>>12169085
>>12168746
>>12168752
Also, enjoy your cheapies fags, I'll be buying when we hit sub-2k SP500

>> No.12169123

>>12169092
You're capable of critical thinking but you're doing it wrong. It's not just going to its ATH, it's going to far exceed 20k. You need to connect a few more dots and then maybe you'll understand.
>PENSIONS
;)

>> No.12169158

>>12169123
Wow, you're right. I'm sure grandma is going to start dumping all of her now non-existent money into cryptocurrencies. You're so right and definitely not delusional.

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>>12169158

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>>12167625
Does anyone want to explain why the interest rate was rock bottom for eight years during Obamas presidency but the instant Trump took office it started rocketing?

I've never heard a good explanation for it.

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>>12169158
>Grandma
Are you forgetting the target audience for cryptocurrency in general? Man you are one stupid motherfucker

>> No.12169198

>>12169158
No yeah its just gonna be permabulls who take their 1M dollar trading accounts to Bitcoin so they can continue gambling on ponzis but believe it or not that's still like 10 billion added to the coin which WILL make it explode to at least 7K.

>> No.12169207

>>12169176
>Believing the president actually fucking matters

This is just decades and decades of poor policy and disregard for proper monetary policy coming to fruition. Corrupt scumbags mismanaging the economies goes all the way back to the 1910s.

>> No.12169209

>>12169176
you cut intrest rates to increase investment spending
you increase intrest rates so you have room to cut intrest rates later

this was always the plan

>> No.12169237

>>12169176
because Obama single handedly fixed the economy and allowed us to have the best growth of all US history, and when the economy does good we need to raise the rates to control inflation. DUMBASS!

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>>12169237

>> No.12169272

>>12169192
Who's the target audience? I thought it was autistic libertarians and get rich quick speculators who are probably the tiniest percent of the US population.

>>12169198
I don't think you've been playing with markets for very long if you think people generally dump money into extremely high risk assets in a crisis. You really do not understand the psychology of the general population. You're projecting your toxoplasmosis risk-maximizing brain on other investors.

>> No.12169372

What does this mean?
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/UD1!/FPWfca19-UD1-That-s-where-money-went-yield-curve-explained/

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>>12167625
Brainlet here
was this announcement good or bad?

>> No.12169600

>>12169176
Cuz niggers are poor oppressed, innocent souls

>> No.12169733

>>12169584
fed controls interest rates
high interest rates mean more people save and less people do risky investments
this is generally a good thing but bad for stocks obv
also too high rates can hurt long term growth because no one is taking risks (and too low rates might cause people to start investing in dumb shit)

today the fed said they'd hike rates today and probably twice in 2019

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>>12169584
Bad seemingly.
Daily chart.

>> No.12169811

>>12168731
where??? Where is the inflation? Theyve been threatening it forever and it never materializes, there is no sign of it, no sign it is imminent, nothing. Complete farce

>> No.12169816

>>12168345
Based 'pede
M
__A
___G
____A*
*Actual trend of the stock market

>> No.12169836

>>12168731
We have inflation anyway, faget !

>> No.12169849

>>12169733
If I may,
Companies have been using the decrease to near zero intrest rates (in the us) to borrow heavily.

.. and now they're having to roust because they can't afford the higher interest rates. corporate credit bubble.

>> No.12169857

>>12167869
AND CAME SO MANY BUCKETS

>> No.12169871

>>12169584
>>12169849
I meant to link you too.

>> No.12169883

>>12169849
This.

>> No.12169884

>>12168345
You just don't understand 4D chess. Q predicted this.

>> No.12169904

>>12169871
>>12169776
>>12169733
thx anons.

>> No.12169932

>>12169904
Let's see how deep the bears can take us!

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Thank you FED, you just secured your own death.
I hope it was worth it.
I hope you are happy.
Omae wa mou shindeiru.

FUCK THE FED
FUCK THE BANKERS
FINANCIAL FREEDOM NOW!!!!!!!!!

>> No.12169955

>>12169940
calm down

>> No.12169983
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>>12169955
No.
You have no idea how important this is for the future of humanity.
You stupid, stupid slave bitch.

This is EVERYTHING.
FUCK THE BANKERS.

FINANCIAL FREEDOM

RIGHT

FUCKING

NOOOOOWWWWWWWWW

>> No.12170049

>>12169983
Hitler 2.0 inbound. Weimar america is over

>> No.12170058

>>12169983
How much monero do you own?

>> No.12170117
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>>12170049
>weimar america is over
Oh I hope so.

>>12170058
Due to who created Monero, and his connections, I've always believed it to be a honeypot.

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>>12168690
Unironically, yes.

>> No.12170196

>>12167870
You are all the way right. If digits
Trump announces fed audit before eoy

>> No.12170199

>>12169983
Fuck the kikes
Fuck the Fed
Fuck Boomers who sold our future just to be comfy.
They can try if they want.
They will have to take my life before my coins. Keep your filthy fiat.
They don't even know what's coming.
Boomers made a huge mistake, never underestimate the power of weaponized autism.
2020 is our shifting point. Be prepared anons.

>> No.12170239

>>12169584
Very good indeed. They are bringing free markets back.

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>>12169123
>thinking BTC won’t consolidate between 3K and 1K (dipping momentarily into triple digits) for a a few quarters before next bull run
I agree BTC is poised to hit new ATF’s but I also wouldn’t be surprised if price runs sideways for the next 2 to 5 months.

>> No.12170290

>>12167870
go back to /frog/ you dumb boomer cunt

>> No.12170306

>>12167649
>/biz/ - Business & Finance

>> No.12170337

>>12170117
And what else if not monero?

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>>12170288
>>12170199
Checked.

>2020
That's so far away.
Hopefully something happens sooner.
There are signs that it might.

I think there is a reason that Satoshi said he will reveal his [identity] in a few weeks.
2019 is going to be important.

http://0ye0gncqg772o.com/
11 days away.


>>12170337
Freedom doesn't have to mean anonymity.
I believe in Bitcoin.
And there are some promising other projects as well, but Bitcoin is the main one. Especially as far as Blockchains go.

>> No.12170467

>>12170353
Sorry, I get your gist;

With the current infringement on privacy world wide, though, it very much does require anonymity.

How to achieve freedom without anonymity?

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>>12170467
Privacy & Anonymity are both important in the right context.
I'm saying that Bitcoin itself shouldn't be the one to deliver both of those.
The open and traceable nature of the blockchain is actually a feature that will greatly improve the lives of regular people.

Bitcoin is a public blockchain.
It has to stay that way.
And if you want anonymity and privacy a blockchain is not the tool you are looking for.

How can you want to be private and anonymous forever, but also want to leave behind a digital footprint forever as well?
That's just asking to get cracked at some point.

Look towards other projects.
Bitcoin will deliver freedom in a different way.
But it's not the only one. And I doubt Monero solved it.

Here's a project I've had my eye on: Safe Coin.
No blockchain.
As it should be.
https://safenetforum.org/t/are-safe-transactions-traceable/20400

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leave my thread right now you dirty coiners

>> No.12170688

>>12167870
Where is the lie?

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>>12170616
>my thread
Oh no...
Didn't you get the memo?
Your time is almost up.

>> No.12170734

>>12170589
Perhaps, but for me privacy is key.

So, i could never use bitcoin.

If I were to try to remove my digital footprint (partially done, but not really). I couldn't possbily use public ledger for money transfer.

My biggest blocker. If I remove my social account, vpn up, dnscrypt and that, how could I ever use a public blockchain?

>> No.12170852

>>12170734
Let people build tokens and other technologies on top of it.
Bitcoin is the backbone.
Don't ask it to do everything. Ask instead what it can enable.

Put another way:
What came first, the internet, or encryption?
Http, or https?

And if you want something, perhaps get dirty and start building.

>> No.12170902

Lmao drumpf absolutely seething RN

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>>12168166
reminder that it's just inflation

>> No.12170989

>>12167870

Had to happen sooner or later. Do you think we can go 9 + years without a fucking rate hike?

The big question is, will they continue till 4% and squeeze the shit out of the market, or are they gonna stop right now? Either way, Trump has to respond.

>> No.12171004

>it's another dunning-kruger millenials larp as investors episode
can we just ban any thinly disguised stock market thread so the board returns to adult discussion? beancash > your whole boomer ponzi

>> No.12171268

>>12170852
I feel we have different privacy concerns, fair to you

>> No.12171518

>>12170715
You are right
The first goy chairman
Same like
Theresa May
Blythe Masters
Boris Johnson
Macron
They put goys into such positions only for crashes to ridicule them

>> No.12171566

Do I tell my parents to call who runs their shitty teacher mutual funds