/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>23797862
Reposting in case you have any more questions / discussion
BST vs ARKK, let's look at the top holdings [this is how your thought process should go]
(data from August 31)
>BST
Apple 4.80%
Microsoft 4.34%
Amazon 3.72%
Ali Baba 3.16%
Mastercard 2.55%
Ten Cent Holdings 2.55%
Alphabet Inc 2.46% (Google)
Twilio Inc 2.35%
Square Inc 2.21%
Advanced Micro Devices 2.09%
>ARKK
(data from 11/6/20)
9.38% Tesla
7.11% Invitae Corp
6.16% Square Inc
5.90% Roku Inc
5.38% Crispr Therapeutics
3.51% Zillow Group
3.49% Teladoc Health Inc
3.16% Proto Labs Inc
3.12% Slack Technologies
2.93% Spotify
Imo.. the Tesla tulip mania will struggle now that there are Chinese substitutes available. For this reason alone, BST may outperform.
ARK is more oriented for 'game-changing' technologies, while I would say BST is more 'historic winners' technologies
They're both good - I just personally am staying away from Tesla for the time being

Rolling for Monday.

>>23798094
rolling

Second for kpop
Buy PLTR

>>23798103
What are the odds of it dipping under 11 again? I can always DCA, but I was unironically hoping to bag some at 7 and that...well, never happened.

>>23798103
>>23796927
I would not recommend FOMOing in before earnings..

>>23798057
I don't know that is but it's a cute. CUTE!

Rolling.

>>23798100
unbelievably based roll.

>>23798081
same. I am a huge fan of Cathie Woods and ARK in general, but I am worried their TSLA plays will keep working... until they don't.

>>23798132
>if earnings are good you'll miss out on a little bit of gains
I'm up 40% on those shares

>>23798094
Roll!

who else is ready to coom tomorrow?

>In USDTRY from 8.185000
>Costs me $16 in daily fee
>Already paid $192 in fees
Pls moon

MARQETA IPO FUCKING WHEN
RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Re-posting NEE for anyone looking for clean energy. Great growth potential and a nice dividend

>>23798132
I'm just getting more, fren

>>23798142
>I am worried their TSLA plays will keep working... until they don't.
As I see it, investors sitting on the sidelines in cash through the election (which there were a lot of, both individuals and institutions) all want to FOMO into EV. They'll look at the options available, see Tesla's cap, P/E, 'potential growth' compared to the others, and $$$ will flow into the others instead. I don't know how Tesla will be able to keep growing with decent substitutes now available
I would even be willing to short Tesla, if I didn't know the thousands of people / institutions that have gone bankrupt doing so..

>>23798170
>doesnt even have GME
lol pussy

>>23798103
>>23798132
Eh i don't think it'll matter too much. Big dump will happen when lockup expires in february

>>23798094
Biggest crash in biztory roll

>>23798199
already took my profits at 15, my only true regret is not buying PLTR at 9.50

>>23798203

>>23798100
It would make sense. /smg/ was bearish all weekend.

>>23798194
>>23798156
There are a lot of /biz/ users who didn't purchase on IPO / on the bound after with a profit cushion - advising them to buy in now before earnings imo is a mean thing to do when the risk is so high of a healthy pullback. They'll FOMO in Monday, bad earnings Thursday, and then they'll sell Friday for a loss
Whereas if they don't FOMO in, wait until earnings, they can always buy in after just at a higher price and ride the trend up

>>23798223
I wish I ignored the bears on PLTR

Who bullish on American misery here?
>ko
>mo
>GSK/Pfe
>rtx/lmt
>xom
>pltr
Bros ww@?

>>23798194
I am with you

>>23798081
Innit Arkk ran by a w*man? Dios mio...

>>23798100
>OPTIgang roll confirmed

>>23798276
stock mommy is based and comfy

>>23798203
jerome powell suicides on national television

>>23798203
Nice

Its gonna crash

Surely we will open red tomorrow. These levels are unsustainable.

>>23798094
Cannabro Rolling for Cannabis Market.

>>23798057
>>23798018
>ARKK
>>23797862
>ARK's ETFs
These ARK Etfs seem neat, but it looked like the largest assets are just Tesla. Why bother with any of the rest of it? The meme future tech stuff isnt its own companies yet, they are part of legacy companies which may or may not preform as well as it could. Unless anons can change my mind.

>>23798338
Why would we be red? Now that the democrats are done needing covid it will go away. Covid is done.

>>23798248
what goes up must come down. lots of insiders haven't sold yet. just wait.

>>23798103
>Buy PLTR
Already did brother.
>>23798250
You need to be bullish on "the great reset" too. Maybe bug food companies, pod rentals, and lab grown meat.

>>23798338
we'll probably be red until a stimulus check is passed

>>23798361
But why are we, europoors still getting tortured by lockdowns?

>>23798396
Because you deserve it.

tell me is it too late to jump into the bull run? i missed out all of last week because of my fucking power going out.

Real talk, do you think investors care about PLTR earnings?
Wouldn't they care more about the future contracts that they're getting like candy right now?
If you loaned me $30, and with it I made $20 this week, but I showed you irrefutable proof that I'd make $500 next week, would you fucken care?

I just opened a Questrade account! what do i buy frens?

>>23798431
see>>23798350

>>23798229
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/22/palantir-says-it-expects-42percent-revenue-growth-this-year-to-1point06-billion.html
how bad can earnings be? Even if the growth was short of this supposed >40%, say 30%, doubt people would look at it differently

>>23798431
Yes, but it's the perfect time to get into the upcoming bear run. Puts on everything is guaranteed money for the next few months

>>23798436
I agree, see >>23798466
personally, slightly below expected earnings wouldn't bother me. They'd have to perform REALLY poorly for me to be put off at this point.

>>23798136
You don't even know.

>>23798378
I wish I was the owner of a hedge fund so I could start one with the ticker ONIONS.

>>23798454
>>23798478
thank you bros. big ups

>>23798447
they put black people on everything in canada too? lmao they're only 3% of your population

How do I profit off of mass animal extinctions?

>>23798094
Rolling for Home Depot

>>23798504
I am seen a lesser capybara in person. They are nice.

>>23798431
nigga keep waiting and you'll be saying the same sentence in one week, you don't make money standing in the line

>>23798466
>https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/22/palantir-says-it-expects-42percent-revenue-growth-this-year-to-1point06-billion.html
>said adjusted operating income will come in at $121 million
22.79B current market cap
22.79B / 121M = 188

>>23798354
in the past 3 months this is how ARKK's top 10 holdings have performed
TSLA 44.4%
NVTA +53.4%
SQ +30.1%
ROKU +59.5%
CRISPR +10.1%
Z +44.3%
TDOC -0.44%
PRLB -0.46
WORK -7.20%
SPOT +8.8%

ARK ETFs are very top heavy with ARKK's top 5 holdings being responsible for 33.93% of the entire ETF. Implying that TSLA is solely responsible for ARK's success is pretty silly. You can claim that Cathie Wood has been lucky, but she's been "lucky" with far more than 1 ticker alone.

>>23798504
Yooo

>wake up
>hungover as shit
I didn’t even drink that much

>>23798504
More like capybaros

>>23798521
They make up 13% of the US population, 4% of US tax payers, and 56% of violent crimes.
They are over represented so much here via US media that when Japanese were interviewed about how many blacks they thought were in America, they all replied that they were half the US population.
The system is not sustainable.
This is bearish on the US economy long term, so after reaping the rewards of the upcoming retard bull session, you might wanna start moving overseas to Chinkland.

>>23798521
yeah we have some black people. theyre pretty cool though

>>23798545
It would seem she just invested in tech companies and thanks to TINA and COVID she got massive returns. I'm not hating or anything.

>>23798567
>wake up
>>hungover as shit
>I didn’t even drink that much
Don't drink bottom shelf garbage

>>23798567
How do I profit off this?

>>23798567
I hate the feeling anon.
I avoid drinking most anything now except beer.

Yesterday did some yard work, ran 2 miles, then drank some beer. I will continue running every 2 days even if its just a mile and a half or so. I cant fall into the quarantine trap again

>>23798396
Because lockdowns work and Europe is one of the winners of the Great Reset. America will implode

>>23798593
>Abbott Laboratories ABT
>Pedialyte

Its hard being insecure rlftf anon and NIOchad.

I want to be both RLFTFchad and NIOchad.

>>23798639
And I feel like I need to buy gme very soon. A lot of it. Like liquidate eman, to buy it probably.

The chad onion speculators vs the virgin basedbean futures market

>>23798616
>winners
>great reset
>winners
No one in here will win from that.

Console day in 3 days anon. Is it already priced in for gme?

>>23798685
Of course there will be winners. Eurasia will rise.

>>23798660
dude you've been saying that for how long lol
make up your mind
Q3 is either going to be shit or spike the price up +30% (like BBBY-tier), you buy it now and your potential downside might only be -15% from here on since institution is accumulating in the $10-$11 range

like you think we're big brain for seeing GME is at liquidation valuations right now? big players understand that far better and that the short interest is more of a bubble rather than bearish sentiment

everything has risk, wha'ts holding you back?

>>23798081
Good stuff, anon. It looks like BSTZ is trying to be more like ARK's approach, with BST being the more traditional tech approach. BSTZ has a few overlapping, but with significantly less percentage allocation per ticker than ARKK.

>>23798748
>Eurasia will rise.
Eurasians are already used to living in rental pods and eat bugs.

>>23798587
I was drinking coors banquets, some high society drinks right there
>>23798593
Calls on my weight
>>23798603
I lifted yesterday but I guess I just cucked myself out of whatever gains I made by drinking a bunch of beer

>>23798680
cme group shareholder. still seething from the loss of onions contracts.

>futes

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>23798748
Coming soon?

>>23798747
hard to say
people already took profit a couple weeks ago and we touched the bottom

How much lower can GME really get when it has the same valuation as shitty JWN now?
If we dont get guidance or share buybacks in Q3 you can kiss the GME play goodbye unless you're convinced you can hold it for 1-2 years

>>23798685
you lack imagination

ngmi

>want to research FVRR
>search on Youtube
>millions of videos of people paying on Fiverr for fun to compare results
What in the fuck. I'm buying Monday.

>>23798844

>>23798884
>buying the top
better try fiverr out yourself.. you will notice it is quite useless in general.. those videos get alot of hits tho. Because watching people using fiverr is cool, using fiverr yourself? why?

>>23798884

>>23798752
Well because I'm bullish and eman longterm but I won't sell anything else. I bought eman at .45 and I think ar/vr is the futurea

>>23798890
damn I love reddit memes

>>23798170
Based portfolio anon. I am ready thanks to nio.

>>23798466
it's not that earnings will be bad anon. it's that swing traders literally buy in the few weeks leading up to the earnings call because they know proles will FOMO. they typically sell the last day right before markets close. earnings call happens (which could be great news) but stock suddenly opens -30-40% lower the next day, proles start panic selling at a loss, falls even lower for the following days. crabs for weeks/months before it starts climbing again.

now is not the time, just wait until friday if you don't want to wait until the following week

>>23797383
Would just like a second opinion on this. Is it true that buying a LEAP with a 80 or 90 delta is almost unaffected by IV? Isn't vega a measure of implied volatility so a decrease in implied volatility would lead to cheaper option premium that you'd have to pay? I'm a retard that's been gambling with weeklies too long and am now going play the long gam any help is appreciated.

>>23798992
>You must be at least 18 to post here

>>23799039
jokes on you I was only pretentering

>>23798680
Unironically, thanks for posting. I never knew about this and it is actually fascinating.

>>23798057
So Im mostly going to be investing in VOO now, but since I dont have 30k to run the wheel on it, I found a smaller etf to wheel with on the side.

I'm gonna sell puts on MIDU until I'm assigned, then I'm going to sell covered calls on it until those are assigned, ad infinitum. what do you guys think? I originally wanted to avoid a leveraged etf, but this is the only one in the price range I'm looking for with worthwhile options premiums, I assume BECAUSE its leveraged

>>23799056
Ah well memed friend

>>23799024
thanks for the advice, will keep an eye on it

How far will nio go up?

And why don't we have penny sTock general anymore?

>>23798572
>move to China
Aw man i don't want to live in smelly insect land. Are there other countries on the ascent that are better?

>>23798372
True, I'm on steroids for the next week or so for an inflamed vein so I'm super bullish

>>23799112
is this not penny stock general?

Pray to OPTI for epic green. Hit 0.15 at least.

>>23799118
I'd rather go to Vietnam, or Finland since they're the best Asian country

Am I missing something, or how can one lose money with Options?

As I understand you're essentially buying a contract, to either buy or sell 100x of a specific stock with the strike price. Now, if that doesn't happen, you will only lose the premium.

So how come people say this will financially ruin most people?

Is it because people buy like 50 options at once?

>>23799150
Lol.

Well I guess its all relative. The 6 fig anons in here probably laugh and think we are plebs but very soon I will be like them. I just need to x5 my portfolio

>>23799198
basically
instead of using options to hedge their stock purchases, you go all in

$10K in ACB 11/6 calls earlier last week would have turned to like what, $600K within a couple days?

>>23799198
I think they leverage themselves or sell options or something idk.

>>23798572
>They make up 13% of the US population, 4% of US tax payers
It really is amazing that such a small part of the population is made to be/allowed to be so influential
It would like being in a classroom of 30 kids, and about 3 of them are constantly telling everyone else what words they can and can't use and how they need to give them part of their lunch every day because in the past the other 27 bullied the fuck out of them

>>23799170
how does delisted EOW sound?

anyone follow solar energy stocks?

Jinkosolar (JKS) vs Sunpower (SPWR) ?

>>23799198
well let's see...
>you spend 5k on options
>they expire worthless
>you lose 5k
vs
>you spend 5k on shares
>the only way you lose 5k is if the stock becomes worthless

seems pretty obvious to me senpai

>>23799198
they take on risks that they don't fully understand using margin then kill themselves when they see a uncleared debit of 700k on their account

>>23799275
He's talking about when people owe money or something.

Didn't that one dude blow his head off live over youtube cause he fucked up some option play?.

>>23799284
That kid was just a retard, and there is no debtors prison in the US so fuck collection kikes

>>23799284
But didn't that kid not even owe 700k, it was just how robinhood was displaying that data?

>>23799317
that's who i meant, i think he was trading credit spreads

How long do you think the Biden rally will last? I’m expecting a solidly green week.

>>23799081
SPLG is a non levered cheap ETF ($41) for the S&P500. dont know how tight the option spreads are. i would imagine better than MIDU tho

>>23799317
He blew his head off, but because he was mentally ill lost his gf and lost a job or something not because of options. Faggot left his dog in the other room too

>>23799353
we're talking about the one before that, not sure if he streamed it though

>>23799334
Wtf is a credit spread

>>23799331
Something like that. The whole story didnt make sense to me. If I were a minor and somehow got -700k on an app, I'd laugh my arse off.

>>23799238
actually in the past there were only 2 of them and one was not bullied

>>23799377
Nah that idiot jumped in front of a train in Ohio

RIP - Alex Trebek just died.. Fucking hell.. Jeopardy won't be the same anymore..

>>23799417
is that the guy from x-files?

>>23799247
sounds like you didn't invest correctly.

>>23799389
Yeah thats what I was about to say. How would he even get enough access to do that

>>23799417
no worries they already have his replacement

>>23799377
ask your broker

>>23799451
is that 50 cent

>>23799434
>is that the guy from x-files?

Yeah.

>>23798478
Getting into a bear run just means not buying more and getting cash ready?

>>23799341
It will just continue until January. Then the giant drop will happen when we still don't have a coronavirus vaccine

>>23798396

Because China wants Cheap Euro Companies and spreads the Virus in your Europistan.
It doesnt get easier desu.

I got 5 grand ready for opening tomorrow.
Cannabis for biden run? If so what cannabis stock
Hold on buying?

Threw 1k at some shitcoin a couple days ago on Coinbase and now I got 3k. What am I buying tomorrow bros?

>>23799377
basically
>buy option 1 at strike 1
>sell option 2 at strike 2
>do this in multiple quantities
>collect difference in premium
>debit gets posted to your account
>see big red number
>kill yourself here
>credit gets posted to your account
>receive net credit

>>23799451
>Lashana Lynch Confirms She Is James Bond's New 007
Is this bearish for AMC and CNK?

>>23799507
It will be on the backburner, they won't legalize weed in other states for a long time. And now I have to deal with tillis instead of Cunningham

>>23799507
Hold on buying. but go all in IIPR when the market does crash in december and collect juicy dividends.

>>23799518
Just buy a nice pair of pajamas.

>>23798094
904
Would feel great having them lose for once.

Alternatively
609
But only if the sectors me and my friend are in actually rally, rather than staying flat even though everything else is going up. Earnings show they do well and better than march yet they continually stay flat. Id have been better off going all in on tesla.

>>23799565
I don’t even wear pajamas why should I buy some?

>>23799532
Chicken, fried not baked

>>23799551
>december
Explain

>>23799583
theyre comfy and winter is coming

who ready to moon on CRSR earnings?

What are stonks gonna do when trump overturns the fraud and wins.

is it green brah I need money

>>23799615
Considering that seems like pure fantasy, anything you want them to.

>>23799615
they're all gonna go vertical up and we'll all make it and drive around in our Lambos.

>>23799389
Id have been telling myself that must be a mistake and emailing robonhood alot all weekend. All while nervously thinking its real. But suicide? Heck no that is just a dumb idea. Anyways 500k+ means its robinhoods problem, not yours. Would just declare bankruptcy at that point.

>>23799526
Lmao.

>>23799532
I have reached a point were nothing shocks me anymore

I'm worried about tomorrow bros. I'm balls deep in SPY puts and think we might actually be green

>>23799615
gme will rocket 200 percent and we'll all go to a convention to celebrate making it

>>23799615
>behind hundreds of thousands of votes in five different states
You think this is a Bush vs. Gore dispute over 900 votes in one state? It's not happening.

>>23799684
As Biden said last night, "It's always been a bad bet to bet against America."

>>23799659
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no_q6sJXjm8

>>23798447
>questrade
close the account and use fidelity

>WKHS and NKLA earnings tomorrow
EV bubble pop tiem

>>23799748

>while he bets on China

when trading puts/calls, why are some contracts further OTM valued higher than contracts less OTM?

>>23799882
supply and demand? aka volume, if nobody's buying them and they'll be cheaper
not sure if that's actually why but that's my guess

>>23799882
you're probably just looking at the last traded price and some far OTM options trade infrequently, so it's an old price. there would be arb bots coming in to take advantage instantly if that situation was actually occuring

last time i'm warning you niggers
tomorrow is the last day to buy into RKT before launch
>pic semirelated

>>23799818
leafs can use fidelity?

>>23799970
that actually got me lmao

>>23799970
I got my 9/17/21 18c

>>23798094
GME

>dividends

>>23800046
Nigger what have you done??

>>23799882
No bids.

>>23798094
NIO

>>23798094
tqqq baby

Does anyone think Fisker (FSR) is gonna get an EV hype pump? I feel like grabbing some leaps cause I don't wanna miss out

>>23798094
PLTR?

>>23800059
>GME down 1.5%
Not much desu, I wouldn't be shocked by any movement between -7% and +15% on Monday, GME is volatile as fuck

>>23799763
Very interesting.

Damn that sucks for that kid. He should have taken a step back and asked what the fuck was going on. He could always kill himself later if it was real.

>>23798094
MARA

>>23798094
Rlftf

>time in the market beats timing the market

Guys my pumpkin futures aren’t looking so good. I thought you said they’d peak right around January?

>>23800171
Fuck yeah

>>23798094
SLV

>>23799882
You should actually never see this because it would be free money (bots would pick it up in 0.000001 seconds, and market makers would never quotes those prices to begin with). It means you could enter a "debit" spread for a "credit".

This is how high demand for options near the money pushes up the prices of options further out to unnatural levels, leading to epic IV crush.

DVN
RRC
AR

easy 5x

>put options

imagine not having at least 25% of your folio on EVs and clean energy

>>23800058
>>23800182
yes chad.jpg

>diversification

>>23800144
It's debatable whether that number should have even been displayed to him through robinhood, but if he understood what he was doing he'd know exactly why he was seeing it.

>>23800238
i have 10% in dirty energy

>buy the rumor sell the news

What's the outlook on PLTR? I managed to get 1583 shares avg 9.47. I'm up about $7k in just a few days but that's not really life changing money

>weighted dips

>>23800238

it's too expensive, not gonna give good returns.

you need an edge against other traders if you want to beat the market. any drooling retard can think "EU, Biden and China gonna invest in green so I buy green" this is not gonna give you an edge, it's priced in.

>>23800238
imagine being 100^ cash gnagng >>23800238
and waiting for teh tDIP liek me

>>23800238
40% of my portfolio is NEE. No need for speculative EV SPAQs or solar heavy memes

>>23800058
>>23800252
>dividends
>bad
Kek

>>23799036
Option premium is made up of 2 things, extrinsic value, i.e., time value, and intrinsic value, i.e., how much you would receive if you assigned the option and liquidated the proceeds at market.
Extrinsic value is affected by IV while intrinsic value is not. The reason for this is extrinsic value is the price the market is willing to pay predicated on the probability of the call expiring at or above that particular strike price therefore a more volatile option with a naturally higher probability of reaching that price by the specific expiration date is higher than an option with lower volatility.
An option trading at the money or out of the money has no intrinsic value and are priced entirely on extrinsic value so those options are heavily affected by changes in IV. Contrast with options trading in the money, the more in the money an option trades, the more intrinsic value it has and the less extrinsic value it has a fraction of its premium therefore the more in the money an option's strike price is, the less it is affected by IV. Roughly speaking once you get past 80 or 90 delta, comparatively little of an option's value is extrinsic so IV isn't a problem.
To calculate the intrinsic value of a call option, subtract its strike price from the current underlying price. For example, TQQQ shares are currently $151.75 so a 1/20/23 TQQQ call with strike price of $60 has intrinsic value of 151.75 - 60 = 91.75, i.e., if you were currently holding this call option and forced an assignment, you would receive 91.75 per share after liquidating the proceeds.
The premium for that call is currently 103.50 which tells you the extrinsic value of the call is 103.5 - 91.75 = 11.75
The 11.75 extrinsic portion of the premium above and beyond the intrinsic value is the only part that is subject to changes in implied volatility because it is based solely on probability of the call expiring ITM. The 91.75 portion of the premium is not. Note the delta on this call is 0.9165.

>>23800303
I might grab some NEE as well

Anyone here own NEE? Seems like a low-risk share to hold long term with OK dividents

>>23800304
>$1.93 has been deposited into your account

>>23800289
They said TAN and ICLN was priced in for a Biden victory before the election, then the both went up 8-9% when it became obvious he was going to win

>>23800319
See>>23798190

You guys jelly of my SPY cost basis?

>>23800327
you know that actually looks pretty good

>>23799661
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>>23800327
Thats for having a share you pleb. Stay poor with no cash flow and gambling on /smg/ news.

>>23800297
retard

>>23800372
What are you on about? Is this bearish or bullish?

>>23800309
gaming is a human right you monster

>>23800327
>-8347 has been deducted from your account

>>23800307
>The 11.75 extrinsic portion of the premium above and beyond the intrinsic value is the only part that is subject to changes in implied volatility because it is based solely on probability of the call expiring ITM.
What this means is no matter how bad IV crush was you would never lose more than $11.75 of the $103.50 you spent on this option all else being equal.

>>23800350
They're ok a best. They are only good when hot however and taste like shit when cold.

>>23800372

>>23800309
im convinced the only reason Gamestop started selling PC parts in-store is so they can be considered essential like Bestbuy if we get another lockdown

GME is officially lockdown-proof now along with the e-commerce growth

>>23799661
>>23800353
Memiest timeline.

>>23800386
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>>23800328

what happens in a weeks time doesn't matter. overpaying for growth stocks in whatever is the hottest new paradigm has never ever been a good idea if you look at the history of the US stock market.
this time might be different, but it probably isn't.

I could be a wrong so I have a position in clean energy ,and it's been going very well this year.
But 25% is simply way too much. It's a high risk play with low expected returns.

>>23798190
>>23800336
Nice one. I think they're also set to benefit from whatever green deal grift is coming with Biden

Also doesn't look like as much of a bubble as a lot of other stonks.

Everyone and the entire world feels too bullish. I'm worried.

>>23800340
You profits are only 935.45$ if you were to sell at current market price. What is there to be jealous of?

>>23800283
could very easily turn into 158k in the next year

>>23798190
>>23800303
NEE looks good and has the fundamentals but TAN and ICLN have been outperforming NEE. I don't care if I'm over exposed to solar if it prints, it prints.

>>23800261
I would argue it should show, but it should show in a way that is obvious to the user that its part of a credit spread, not where you typically see your balance. Maybe it did and he just was too dumb to even think about it.

One thing I didn't quite understand. Idk how realistic the numbers in that video were but, he could make like 2900 off 58 bucks? That seems like a good way to make huge gains

Or in the opposite example if he lost money in the credit spread wouldn't be negative farther than 58, like he would owe 2900 ? The dude in the video said he wouldn't

>>23800430
CRINGE fucking edit, kys for even having that saved

posting the real one

>>23800353
>no Samuel L. Jackson
>no Halle Berry
>Not directed by Spike Lee or Tarintino
ngmi

>>23800418
NEE is a solid stock. They own Florida power and light which is a huge utility company. That’s what allows them to have a reasonably good dividend on top of having plenty of capital to acquire future business ventures

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>>23799970
Your finger looks gross

>>23800454
why is 100% cash theta and gimel?

>>23800436
NEE has a market cap of $150 billion, TAN and ICLN have a combined market cap of $5 billion. NEE makes up a large chunk of both TAN and ICLN

>>23800469
can we get a jannie to clean this shit up.

I am fucking SCARED about tomorrow bros

>>23800464
Is it too late to buy?

>>23800510
Nope you buy it and hold it. Buy more regularly

>>23800500
check the foreign markets when they open tonight. if they dip tonight, i'm looking to score some cheapies. if they don't... idk, maybe ill get some bitcoin or something.

>>23800500
Buy signal.

>>23800510
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/11/02/the-utility-that-beat-big-oil-to-climate-model-it-needs-for-future-.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.economist.com/business/2020/10/24/meet-nextera-americas-most-valuable-energy-firm

>>23800307
>>23800393
Thank you for the explanation and thank you for the answering my question. I will save your posts. I don't have much, but I will offer you this pepe.

>>23800499
dilate biden tard

>>23800555
Checked and added to the collection

>>23800411
>it's going to the supreme court
proofs?

>>23800592
pol said so

>>23800469
B-Bullish for GME

>>23800397
>>23800350
>>23800327
1.93 x 1000 shares is not bad. Don't get me wrong, you can speculate on growth all you want. But, unless you sell your growth stocks, you literally have NO profits.

>>23800592
>as,king a scnizo for prood

has robintrack stopped working altogether?

>>23800634
>1.93 x 1000 shares
>having $50,000 invested to get 4%
why?

>b-b-but unless you sell you can't take profits!
and? why are you spending your dividends as cash instead of reinvesting them? if you reinvest dividends it's identical to a growth stock but slower

>>23800668
a.wahs gors up

why do people buy negative yielding bonds? I dont get it.

>>23800207
>>23799946
I'm on robinhood, so I guess the most likely scenario is that Robinhood is retarded, and since its the weekend low volume probably fucks it up as well. specifically, I was looking at selling jan 15 2021 MIDU puts, which show over $5 premiums for close to half the current share price, with other price targets varying from $1-4

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>>23800687
pretty sure ive seen it on streetsmart edge

>>23800182
>buy low sell high

>>23800670

growth stocks are much riskier, you might outperform the divvy and you very well might not.

te4st

>>23800720
welcome back

So when's the dip?

>>23798354
These ETFs are going to replicate the same fate those failed tech-chasing Merril Lynch mutual funds from 2000 did, and will suffer the same -90% loss.

>>23800735
Tuesday

Down tommorrow.

Up way too quick

Mitch wants a tiny stimulus of 400 billion...market doesnt like this

>>23800634
>unless you sell your growth stocks, you literally have NO profits.
*writes calls*

>>23800735
>dumb money entering the market trend

>buy stock A one day before dividend date
>receive dividend A date
>sell stock A and buy stock B one day before dividend B date
>repeat every day
What's the catch preventing this

What is a good investment for someone who is bullish on far-right terrorism?

>>23800735
>nothing to see here

>>23800684
>If your bank account charged a fee, the negative yield bond might be cheaper
>If you live in a country that makes institutional funds invest in government bonds, then you're forced to invest in negative yield bonds
>If you're extremely risk averse, and you're worried about deflation

>>23800752
looks like dumb money was right on point in March

>>23800720
welcome back fren

>>23798094
roll

>>23800762
weed stocks

>>23800735
>nothing to see here either

>>23800761
Taxes and commission fees eating your lunch, more than you make on the divvy. Also a lot of work for little gain

>>23800769
Why is deflation a bad thing? All the recent countries suffering economic hardship are because of inflation, caused by socialist dictates.

>>23800762
shotspotter

>>23800761

Nothing

Just price dips could cost you

>>23800791
I'm just explaining why someone might want negative yield bonds

>>23800761
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/dividend-capture.asp

opportunity cost and there might be a sell off from people thinking the same thing
you're probably better off just writing covered calls though

uh guys

>>23800761
I think share price dips after an ex-div date, so thatll eat into profits or negate them unless you hold for a bit. dividend.com shows how many days it took for stock to recover from the div in its payout history tab, so thats something to look into. also >>23800788

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>>23800791
Because it hurts the upper 30% who have houses and assets.

Imagine buying a house for 500k and having to sell it for 150k and take a loss

>>23800791
because if everyone saves and doesn't spend money then the economy collapses (or something)

>>23800805
Interesting, thanks for the link, didn't know that this was a thing, but I'm not surprised.

>>23800761
Wow you’re a genius I can’t believe nobody has thought of this before

>>23800791
>Why is deflation a bad thing?
because it incentivizes people to hoard their money instead of spending it. if the expectation is always that your money will be worth more in the future, you enter a deflationary vortex and the economy grinds to a halt

>>23800684
Because when interest rates go from -0.5% to -1%, you can sell the treasury at a profit. But you enter a situation where the nation is in a "liquidity trap" where interest rates bounce around the zero-bound and the currency stops devaluing any further because the inflation expectations on the long end of the yield curve are near zero.

Initially this causes a crash in equities and housing prices to their "real value". And then you see price stabilization. In this environment you will have a very hard time making money off of markets as margins and yields are close to zero. This is the "zero-growth environment". In this environment, you get punished for holding a positive yielding debt (which most of the economy is holding), pushing you towards paying off debts, but doing so would hurt the owner of that debt.

This is also known as a balance sheet recession.

>>23800791
It makes debt cost more.

>>23800828
I'm filing a patent on it right now, we shall call it wojack's gambit

>>23800668
economy is doing just fine. unemployment levels are nearly back pre-covid rates... debt levels are at least in usa stunningly low, 95% of gdp. you can run economies with 500% long periods of time like many countries in europe do. japan is doing rather well with 300% debt levels it seems, there is no "hyperinflation" or anything

https://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

If PLTR goes down like $3 on earnings, does it even fucken matter long term?
Do their earnings even matter if their contracts are amazing?

>>23800828

In reality you have to wait sometime

If it were that easy just get on GLAD and GAIN and get your .07 a month dividend

The mean reversion is going to be hard on everyone who has borrowed money because their debts are going to become more and more expensive. The US dollar then begins to behave something like this:

https://www.inflationtool.com/japanese-yen/1990-to-present-value

>>23800806
yeah but you can see why that it is desu

1) recessions worldwide hits corporate profit
2) equities propped up because of super low interest rates

the question is, what is there right now that would make people STOP investing in equities? because there's no other way to retain or gain value. because of QE and interest rates

corporate profits should start recovering tho

Did futures open?

my magic eight ball says the jews will dump EV's and renewable energy to shake out weak hands and accumulate more

>>23800843


Thats some nice hopium bro

Unemployment would be at 15% if stimulus hadnt kicked people off of it

>>23800872
It's over. Economy was deleted.

>>23800847
earnings hasn't mattered since 2006

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>>23800872
5pm

>>23800428
you might want to check your math on that again, bro

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>>23800791
Deflation is only bad if you have very large amounts of debt, like governments do.

For the average Joe, deflation would be a good thing, especially in real estate

Real talk, anyone else unable to really enjoy Vidya after getting heavily into stocks? I still play with the bros every now and then, but alone, idk. Why put effort into the game when stocks are already the most insane game ever created.

>>23800893

Yes when benefits s go away you dont count as unemployed anymore

Doesnt mean you u found work lol

https://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cpseea38.htm

for those of you that are making payments on a mortgage, do you overpay to reduce the total interest you pay, or do you invest most of your excess income because you believe that you will beat your interest rate in the market? or more realistically, what's the ratio of overpayment vs investment you use with your excess income?

>>23800788
>Taxes
Yup. 30% on capital gains
>commissions
Who still charges commission fees? Robin hood?

>>23800811
How is that a bad thing? If you're doing a normal life plan, usually when you sell your current housing to buy new housing, it's to buy bigger.
In a market doing -20%, your 100.000$ flat would now be 80.000. Good thing is, the 200.000 house you're looking for is now 160.000$
Before the crash, the delta you had to put to buy the new house was 100.000$. Post crash, the delta you have to put on the table is 160.000-80.000= 80.000
So, no,
>Imagine buying a house for 500k and having to sell it for 150k and take a loss
isn't an issue at all.

>>23800941
ROI with even basic exposure like an index fund beats paying low interest debt like a mortgage. If someone was worried about a market correction, then they should make money shorting the market. Thing is people don't do that, they're just coming up with excuses to not take risks. Even if you thought the market was going to trade horizontall for the next 5 years, you would still achieve a greater yield holding some basic bitch dividend company.

>>23800670
I do spend my divvies by reinvesting though. I make 75k a year before divvies working for JNJ and get an extra 10k from divvies. It isn't like I'm super wealthy, but I literally don't hurt for money and have a cash stream to invest with.

>>23801018
so even in the crab market we were in before the elction you would still only make the minimum payment and invest with your excess, or are there certain exceptions such as that?

>>23800670
Make 4% a year guaranteed which gets reinvested into more shares. Pick a good stock and enjoy growth while maintaining a fixed source of cash whenever you decide to turn DRIP off. Dividends aren’t as much of a demon as you make them out to be

>>23799068
TA fags are truly the lowest form of life.

>>23798504
why are capybaras so based?

>>23801066
What I would do is different than what most people do. I select individual companies that I think will beat the market and reduce risk by building a portfolio.
Think about it this way: You don't actuall own your house, the bank does. Even if you pay off $200k but still have $100k left, the bank still owns your house. It is still a liability that is subject to economic factors and force majeur. So there are risks to owning or mortgaging a house just as there is to owning equity in a company.
If you thought your house would appreciate faster than the stock market or a portfolio of stocks, why would you pay more towards your house instead of opening a mortgage in another investment property? If you think the second property mortgage is too risky, then you aren't confident in your first mortgage either.

>>23800898
>it is the same time everywhere on earth

Oil Predictions for opening in an hour ?

>>23801244
crab downward

>>23801066
Also I want to add that even small amounts of inflation are very beneficial to debt holders, especially mortgage debt. I have a 3.5% interest rate on my property. That means if, during the lifetime of the 30 year mortgage contract, the average inflation rate is 3.5%, my effective interest rate is 0%. Historical inflation varies between 2 to 3%, and macro trends from things like fiscal stimulus and central bank policy will lend itself to greater than 2% inflation in the future. Why would I pay off debt when the value of the dollar inflates every year? You're literally better off buying bonds or even precious metals than paying off your mortgage.

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>>23801318
thanks brah. hopefully I'll have a mortgage to pay the minimum on sometime soon

>>23801289
Safe

>>23801244
Massive down like last monday