/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

She is retarded and pissed off her fanbase.

>>OP
Nijifag, why do you keep embarrassing yourself like this?

>>OP
Being part of the clique and used as /#/ CCV metric system

>>OP
no more gooner ASMR + educate yourself

>>OP
how new are you

>>93024241
I literally know nothing about her except ccv is measured in fianas and she talked about getting DP'd one time of something

>>93024318
unironically, literally
lurk moar.
you will get you're answers soon enough.

>>OP
The parasocial fucks thing ensured I’d never watch her again. Checked her hours ago and she gets a few K views (not viewers) per stream. Shame.

Can she make a living with her view count or does nijisanji pay her a living wage?

>>OP
>>93024318
She used to do lewd ASMR that was popular (can't comment on whether it was good or not because I find ASMR - lewd or otherwise - uncomfortable to listen to, but it was popular) and was then convinced by groomers within her fanbase and the usual twitter crowd that she shouldn't do it anymore. It was also revealed that she she was having private chats with these particular members of her fanbase (she sent her Niji audition tape to them which ended up leaked /here/) and even played games with them. Basically she repeatedly betrayed her wider fanbase to cater to these groomers who then abandoned her for the most part after they were done with her. A key moment in this was after a long period of saying no more ASMR she had a waiting room for an ASMR stream set for 1st April. In the waiting room she received many, many supas including akas and when it went live it was just an image shilling merch - then her flipping the viewer off at the end.

Contrary to popular belief the PARASOCIAL FUCKS comment was aimed primarily at Vox's fans after they started attacking Reimu for interrupting a BFE ASMR he was doing - although given the rest of her behaviour I can understand why some would assume she thought the same about her fans.

Basically a case of a strongly lewd and GFE chuuba doing a complete 180. In feesh's case it's because she's a genuine retard and easily led - and I'm not even exaggerating, she really does seem like if she had a few IQ points lower she'd need a full time carer.

There's also some issue with Zaion/Sayu which I'm not as familiar with but I'm sure some sayufag will be along to explain because they seem to particularly hate her.

>>93024843
Wasn't that directed at Vax Akoomer's chink fanbase? The "parasocial fucks" was the most innocuous thing she has done.

>>93024886
>Can she make a living with her view count
roru
>or does nijisanji pay her a living wage?
rumao
didn't she claim she had "financial issues" now? she literally ruined herself financially.

>>93024906
Yes, it was. Though as I said in >>93024904 after they way she behaved with her own fans I can understand why some of them would assume she felt the same about them.

>>93024130
Is she actually part of the clique or just a third party who also happened to fuck herself over?

>>93024904
I will never get why girls do dumb shit like pander to a select few of the fans. It's never ever a good idea. Treat everyone equally aka like lepers.

>>OP
> To be successful in her profession, she must achieve some degree of parasocialism with the viewers, otherwise nobody cares
> She then insults all parasocials

>>93025238
No she's just a complete retard. Far too stupid to be within any kind of circle but because of that she's easily led so it wouldn't surprise me if she goes along with whatever they tell her to.

>>93025238
She is a clique dickrider, but she gets only scraps from them.

>>93025301
>lepers demands healthy people be infected with their disease out of fairness

>>93025597
groomer spotted

>>93024904
> explain Sayu issue
TLDR: Finana made a comment that Zaion “gaslit her” immediately after Zaion’s termination. Months later, Sayu (Zaion’s RM account) revealed that Finana made that statement AFTER the two of them had a long conversation clearing up the situation privately.

Clips are very easy to find for both Finana’s and Sayu’s statements.

>>93025706
nah, finana went way too far with her fans apparently, discords should be avoided by all chuubas at all costs, & users should never get special treatment. but i know a bitter fag who's just shit at chatting when i see one. chatters who can actively contribute positively to the quality of a stream should be encouraged to do so, especially ones other than me.

>>93024904
>There's also some issue with Zaion/Sayu which I'm not as familiar with but I'm sure some sayufag will be along to explain because they seem to particularly hate her.
after zaion's termination finana spoke on stream about how zaion talked to her in DMs beforehand with her side of the story and caused her to "feel gaslit" after the official statement from management came out. because zaion was public enemy #1 at the time, part of the narrative against her included that she intentionally manipulated and lied to finana. while I am no sayu fan myself, I don't think she gaslit anyone during her time in niji, and it's not shocking that she held a grudge against finana for saying so.
you will notice a trend between this, "parasocial fucks", and other things like the trap incident, which is that the fish tends to say things without understanding what they actually mean, or understanding the way that her words will be perceived by a wider audience. It has always been my personal belief that she has never done any of these things with malice, but is just that naive and stupid. ALL of the drama around her can be pinpointed to that as a root cause
>whether her ASMR was good
her ASMR is quite good if you were into more sexy/GFE type audio instead of triggers, it was surprisingly racy especially from a bigger (at the time) female vtuber in a corpo. it's honestly understandable why she wouldn't want to do more of it after seeing how disastrous that kind of content was for Vox/Mysta's fanbases, but she didn't do herself any favors with the way she went about it.
>>93025238
"the clique" contains whoever is convenient for the narrative at the moment. this question is completely meaningless and so are any answers to it
>>93024318
a lot of the above addresses why she might have antis, but having antis doesn't equate to low CCV. low CCV means you've bled off a significant chunk of your core fanbase, which she did by too consistently filling her schedule with gachaslop and valorant for years. the groomer circle stuff definitely contributed but most ryuguards probably didn't even know about it. she stagnated almost entirely due to poor schedules.

>>93025863
dang, you just want to be a groomer but no girl will let you

>>OP
She's a subtard (well below the retard line) and pissed off a number of people.

>>OP
If you get offended at the word "trap", I know I can safely hate you. Finana banned that word and told us to educate ourselves, but eventually backtracked because she realized how retarded she was being.

>>93024886
No and no. She lives with her parents.
>>93024957
I still remember back in the day when she said how much she spent on gacha and stupid shit when they were at the high point of their viewership. All that money spent on pixel characters that have no value..

>>93025916
that's projection, as i actually prefer being the one getting groomed.

>>OP
Unshaved, but trimmed.

>>93024904
>issue with zaion
finana said that she helped zaion with something against management but later realised that zaion gaslit her. Now later on sayu( zaion) said on stream said that they talked privately before the termination and she was sad that finana believed management instead of her.
This was clipped by various channels with hundreds of thousands of views. So there's that. Her fanbase is also likely to openly attack people who they believe have wronged her.

If you see any unbridled anger against Kotoka, Hex and Finana out of nowhere it is most likely a sayu fan.

>>93024318
>she talked about getting DP'd one time
It should have been me!

>>93024904
>In the waiting room she received many, many supas including akas
I don't recall there being that many donations, I do recall a huge issue being that people took time off their schedules for the stream expecting it to actually be a stream.
>when it went live it was just an image shilling merch
not merch, lazulight didn't have any merch worth shilling. It was an upcoming cover.
>then her flipping the viewer off at the end.
this didn't happen, the flipping off part was a picture that she switched her twitter banner to after the stream. As for the actual stream itself she spent hours during the waiting room in another niji member's stream, and in his chat she was laughing at all the gullible PARASOCIAL FUCKS waiting for some form of content. You could not self-sabotage harder if you tried.
t. blueballed out of some damn good material

The only thing she's good at is ASMR and refuses to do it. She cultivated a fanbase of gooners and then lambasted them for being gooners. She's just pretty dumb. I think the interaction with Pomu is a pretty good example of her character where they went to a convention together and Finana made Pomu pay for everything. Then there's the time she teased yuri bait with Pomu just to invite Uki and ruin the whole interaction.

Damn. Sincrocucks are seething and just confirmed themselves to be SEAfags. Suicide must be looking super tempting for you cucks

>>93024904
From what I understand reimu didn't even interrupt. She posted in chat to say she had beaten a game she had been stuck on at the time. Vox then took it upon himself to piss off his fujos by pretending to get into a call with reimu (you can't even hear her audio) and talks to himself to make the fujos jealous. They proceeded to send wave after wave of harrasment to reimu. All the livers publically condemned his fan base and he initially doubled down and sided with his fangirls til a bunch of the girls had to tell him he was a complete retard. After enough calling out he did a 180 and made his famous i am not dating you and we are not boyfriend and girlfriend and will never be tweet. He swore to never do bfe again and that he wouldn't cater to his fans anymore cause he felt super uncomfortable about it. His ccv dropped massively for the following two weeks and he did another 180 and apologized to his cumsocks, sorry I meant kindred.

>>93027279
very gay

>>93027361
I'm sure I remember there being a screenshot of the ending stream that was her flipping the viewers off that was posted at the time, but I must have misremembered a screenshot of the twitter banner.

>>93027401
You are a falseflagger who is trying to necrobump aren't you

>>93027458
>necrobump
>47 seconds after the last reply
?????

Ugly women are seething because the fish is too hot.

>>93024318
warosu.org/vt/
read it cover to cover
then you can come back

>>93027401
If there were any sayufags in this thread it would be filled with far more hateful comments towards Finana - they really fucking despise her. As it is it's mostly people pointing out factual provable events - explaining how she pissed off her own fanbase and likely did it not out of genuine malice but because she's a retard.

>2025
>still trying to convince people she has fans

>>OP
I love Finana, her voice is attractive af, she is a genuine person, and she is kind.

>>OP
Go to their thread and complain while seething, faggot. Talk about minding your own business, yet you could never forget Niji. Got Niji mentioned, aren't they supposed to be dead?

>>93027533
You sound like a women, men like women who are a little chubby.

>>93027581
Holobros like to seethe about Niji because their talents will never be as good.

>>93027583
i'm not a doxnig like the anon you replied to and i wholly agree that a bit of chubby is obviously ideal BUT he did say "a bit too chubby", which is entirely plausibly fair. chubby is good until form is compromised, then it's just fat.

>>93027533
No need to out yourself so easily, but thanks for proving my point.

>>93027614
I've seen pics and she isn't fat tho

>>OP
She isn't hated, she is loved

>>93025875
The core fanbase cut was a slow bleed.
First because a lot of prominent Ryuguards (organizers/artists/paypigs, etc.). Afaik the first split was outright dropped on her in private, Which made Finana act considerably colder to her regular chat for a good chunk of 2022-2023, which made even more people slowly drop her. Making her fall back into her "comfort games" leading to the Valo and gacha spam. (There's also the case of Valo suddenly becoming that because of the groomers, but that'd be too long), both types of games having low interaction with chat, on top of being long streams, making the bleed worse. Add her missing a bunch of holidays due to travels and breaks, and the obvious April Fools moments, effectively killing off any interest in he remaining fanbase to celebrate anything, and you get the drop from 1.2k to 500 viewers.

Then there's Selen shock and Sayu gaslit me, and you get her sub 1 Finana CCV.

>>93027657
That's how you know it's sincrocucks. They're seething because they found out Finana was hot while Sayu looks like she had to reconstruct her face after a nasty burn

>>93027583
Like I said, there are women who can pull it off. She can't. Hey finana, if you're reading this, get some exercise and lose the nose ring. It looks ugly.

>>93027657
then that anon is a doxnig with shit taste that should kill himself while you are merely a doxnig that should kill himself unless it was just spammed in some general somewhere and you didn't intend to see it or whatever in which case i apologize for the aggressive response

Has this thread been linked in /NijiEN/ or some discord? It was a fairly slow discussion about Finana's issues and then suddenly it starts moving a lot quicker with dox shit and shitposting.

>>93027739
>Sincrocuck desperately shoves blame onto sisters despite being doxxfags

Kek. That reminds me of the fact they wouldn't stop pressuring Sayu to talk about the fact she was doxxed then she told them to fuck off

>>93024318
>she talked about getting DP'd one time of something
She wishes.

>>93027714
You sound jealous

>>93027703
*Zaion gaslit me

>>93027714
How does a single girl make such fat brown men act like complete trannies?

>>93027786
She talks about thinking of DP with fictional characters, she never actually says she got DP'ed

>>93027773
Again you're tilting at windmills (assuming you're a Nijifag) or baiting for people who aren't in this thread (if you're a catalogfag). If there were sayufags in this thread they'd be much less charitable towards Finana than the anons criticising her in this thread. To be honest I've not seen a sayufag in the catalog for quite a while.

>>93027739
Why do you talk about her "problems" when she's great already? And then you walk it back when your shitpost about people having her is proven wrong

>>93027828
I have seen her older pics and they were golden. Full on dumb art girl vibes. Now she looks chonk. Feesh is dumb and cute, she can't pull off hag.

>>93027847
There was an identical thread made yesterday about Finana where they started having a meltdown over people shitting on Sayu. Who do you think the OP is?

>>93027862
Why do you talk about her "problems" when she's great already? And then you walk it back when your shitpost about people *hating her is proven wrong

>>93027886
doxnig has shit taste
news at 11

>>93027503
They're busy watching Sayu play a Soulink with uh... idk who the other girl is.
>>93027533
Lose the nose ring and she'd be a: would break the bed breeding her/10

>>93027886
>OMG what happened to her? She got so fat!!!

Genuinely. Why do you act like such a woman?

>>93027862
>>93027891
Nothing has been proven wrong though. Ex-ryuuguards and others who were around at the time talking about the issues with the valoguards, the ASMR 180, and her general shittiness towards her own fanbase haven't been addressed. You just came in screaming about Sayu's fans who you currently seem as unhinged as.

>>93027956
Second reply was meant to be to >>93027895

>>93027891
I think it was genuinely made by some newfag who arrived at some point last year, given his other reply.

>>93027956
>Ex-ryuuguards
KEK. Keep falseflagging, retard. Being a thread reader doesn't make you a fan.

Finana has slowed down the Valorant spam and has been playing through the entire Yakuza series. Finana has already said time and time again that she didn't feel like doing ASMR often but said she'd maybe do one again. And no one who actually watches streams thinks that she's "abusive to her chat". Meanwhile all the reasons listed are basically "She betrayed Sayu" or "but the drama about yumes" and "Don't you remember when she banned traps?". No one gives a shit about that anymore

>>93028107
Not that anon, but no one gives a fuck anymore fiskek. She will always be a shadow of what once was and will never break 1k active viewers. Just give it up.

>>93027721
NTA but I had her PL account pushed to my For You tab several times by twitter in the past couple of months, and I'm not even following Finana or any other Niji. I didn't actually realize who she was for a while until I've seen by chance an anon naming her PL in a thread here and I connected the dots.
Which is funny because the same exact thing happened to me with at least one holomem.

>>93027954
Hey I just responded to a guy calling her hot.

>>93028252
and you did so in an unquestionably womanlike way

>>93028189
Everyone still loves her, you guys are delulu

>>93028189
>no one gives a fuck
Some people clearly do considering back to back bait threads. Last one reached bump limit too. Its funny, frickin aster twisty bait doesn't do well at all.

>>93028107
>no one who actually watches streams
yeah thats her problem retard kek

>>93028272
Nuh uh, I was very manly about it.

>>93028107
I really can't tell whether you're just a shitposter or an actual hyper-defensive current ryuuguard. If no ryuuguards had left then her CCV wouldn't have dropped into the black hole it has. You can't dismiss her behaviour with the valoguards, you also can't dismiss the 1st April stream. Of course no one gives a shit about all of this anymore because she's filtered everyone who did, which is why she has an average CCV of 256. I understand you being defensive about your oshi (if you're an actual ryuuguard) but just coming into a thread and pissing and shitting yourself like this doesn't help her.

>>93028308
Most of that thread was just sincrocucks having a meltdown over people saying Sayu was ugly and deserves her downfall. Don't know who you're fooling

>>93027956
>You just came in screaming about Sayu's fans who you currently seem as unhinged as.
This. The ones who keep screeching about sincrocucks this and sincrocucks that always sound so retarded lmao
I at least understand Sayufags for raging about Finana, Hex and Kotoka because those three legitimately did horrible things to her
But the ones who use the sincrocuck term never have any valid arguments and seem to be looking for every opportunity to seethe at a nonexistent boogeyman

>>93028197
YouTube's algorithm regularly recommends me years old videos of random women and I know before I click on them that I'll recognise the voice, just a question of who it is. It's quite bizarre.

>>93028473
Anon's collective mind algorithm linked me a very old video that may or may not be related to OP and is the hottest thing I've ever seen in my life. So yeah.

>>93028285
Stop using retard speak with me fish.

>>93028344
>an average CCV of 256
OOF

>>93028375
Deliberately leaving out details to mislead someone could be considered gaslighting.
Here is Zaion's version of the story from her google doc.

>8. “Giving false information to other NIJISANJI EN Livers regarding the contents of her communications with ANYCOLOR Inc.”

>This is only referring to a misunderstanding regarding Zaion using her Genshin and other PL gacha accounts. Zaion did not tell her genmates that “she was told that using her old accounts would be okay.” She merely told them that “she was not told in the interview process that it was not okay.”

She deliberately hid the important information that Zaion was explicitly told that it was not okay to use her account AFTER the interview process.

>>93028107
>Nobody cares anymore
Yeah because nobody watches her, that's the issue. Heck I think her member streams are mid 2views.

>>93028887
It wouldn't surprise me but how do you know? YT doesn't display the viewer number on members streams and I thought tracker sites don't have CCV data for them?

>>93028982
I'm just going by shit she does on members like polls midstream and the submissions on the last one about resolutions which has around that number of entries

finana stop posting. i know you're legitimately a diagnosed retard and i one hundred percent mean this when i say this comes from a place of kindness.

posting nonsense on this board will not improve your vtuber career.
attempting to rewrite history will not improve your vtuber career.
trying to doxx and subtly boast about your beauty will not improve your vtuber career.
any amount of time you spend here is equivalent to spending time driving your fans away

>>93029344
tbf her tits did get me back into watching her.

>>93029344
>trying to doxx and subtly boast about your beaut
I dislike Finana quite a lot but she's one of about four NijiEN members (past or present, male or female) who are actually good looking. Unfortunately for her that's of no use in vtubing and it's of no use to her in fleshstreaming unless she leant into it which she almost certainly won't do.

>>93029124
what compels a man to stay in such an abusive relationship?

>>93027829
sounds about right for nijisanji.

>>OP
>retarded, as in actual stupid dumb zoomer
>hypocritical
>resorts to coombaiting when she needs money, but is holier than thou when she doesn't, resulting in her infamous zero self conscience quotes like parasocial fucks and educate yourself
>groomcord bullshit she never left behind and lost a majority of her fanbase to
>lazy and unprofessional to the point even her whole branch sees as a joke and never takes her seriously
>majority of her content is playing chink gacha slop and valorant
>having a melty over the word trap due to groomercord trannies influencing her and having a fight with her fanbase
This girl would have ended up as some discord admin's cum rag if she didn't get into NijiEN and got some popularity. Luckily she was only groomed by her trannycord that chopped off their dicks

>>OP
>why
Educate yourselves.
You can only go so far while hating on your fans that you gathered.

>>93027503
Eh, most of them have left or occasionally make a message or two in /corpo/ when she's live.
At this point I'd rather not bring her up since any time she shows up on the catalog you get a bunch of people trying to bait us.
Still don't like Finana for dogpiling on her, but at this point it's far too late and we just don't have the weight to throw around to push it.
We're just focusing on supporting our girl now instead of trying to convince people who've already made up their mind.
t. sayufag enjoying her playing pokemon

>>93027361
>Actually defending the worst thing she did.
This must be Finana running damage control, I refuse to believe anyone would defend such a cunt move otherwise.
Also people sent supas and were waiting 6 hours for the stream to start, and it was just TTS and ads when it was over. And instead of realizing it was in bad taste, she doubled down with the middle fingers.

>>93027701
>>93027862
>>93028285
Come the fuck on. If she was still loved, if she was still great, her CCV wouldn't look like this. Indies who are barely discussed, with scuffed models and addicted to niche games get around the same viewership - for a member of the second largest vtubing company in the world to have CCV like this is embarrassing. And this isn't even because of the Doki situation (that helped, but it's not the major cause) it's because she actively went against her fans for no discernable reason. This is what happens when you allow a select few groomers to turn you against your fans.

>>93030409
what part of that was defending her, you illiterate tard? I was just correcting the parts that didn't seem accurate.

>>93030792
You were trying to make it seem like her actions were less than they were through technicality.
Stop being a cunt and maybe people wouldn't hate you Finana. Or just be a 3D cam whore.

>>93030869
Nta (I'm the anon he originally replied to) and he's not downplaying what she did, just correcting mistakes in what I remembered from the time.

>>93030869
There's zero points in my post where I try to absolve her or downplay her shitty april fools prank, what is there to even go schizo over? I corrected the post because she did change her twitter banner to picrel, she did make people wait for a nothingburger cover, and she did sit in another dude's chat mocking them the entire time. Learn to fucking read.

>>93030758
Never watched her and just itt out of curiosity, what did she average before? 1-2k?

I kinda like her, but my only impression of her is based on clips I saw 1 year ago. She's a bit annoying and performative. But my thought was that her unhinged openness about sex stuff transcends lewdtubing since it's real sexual health shit.

>>93030976
There were supas including at least one akasupa, you're downplaying that. There was some merch as well after the TTS segment and she still flipped everyone off after all was said and done, which you can't deny.
It was still a 100% cunt move.

>>93031071
>There were supas including at least one akasupa, you're downplaying that
I said "I don't recall" which is perfectly reasonable since the dogshit prank took place two years ago
>There was some merch as well after the TTS segment
I genuinely don't even remember her shilling anything after the cover with TTS.
>she still flipped everyone off after all was said and done, which you can't deny
I never denied that she did that, I specified that she changed her banner since the other anon misremembered that it was part of the stream.
At this point I think you'd have to purposefully misinterpret the post to come to the conclusion that its defending her.

>>93031316
>She's that type of faggot that needs to refute everyone part of a post.
>Playing stupid to the ad part
>Still doubling down on your faulty memory, aka defending her.
Just stop shaming yourself Finana, you should have apologized. This is why people hate you.

>>93030979
I can't remember her exact average before all of her personal yabs, but I remember a lot of streams being around 2.5-3k.

>>93031530
She also got a temporary boost and spamming gacha game streams at the expense of her original fansbase who left. Which created the problem of when she didn't stream gacha, all the new viewers she got left too.

>>93031071
>>93031398
My man, I'm the anon he originally corrected and I admitted above I might have misremembered bits of it, I don't understand why you're so insane you think he's defending Finana as opposed to saying "she's shit, but actually you're wrong about these parts"

>>OP
How much is finana's ccv pre decline? when did it becomes 1finana/stream?

>>93030976
It was an OG song actually
Then again it was fucking Unseiso.

>>93027434
Not quite, Reimu repeatedly called him while he was in the middle of a BFE ASMR to ask or tell him something about a game, the dumb motherfucker actually answered it and spoke with her without muting his audio, chinkdred meltdown ensued. Reimu got death threats, Finana then made her infamous comment directed at the chinkdred who were pissed at Reimu. Literally everyone involved in that incident had a massive retard moment.
Reimu - clearly trying to flex some kind of possessiveness towards Vox by calling him knowing ge was in the middle of an ASMR stream and repeatedly calling when he didn’t answer at first
Vox - by answering, although per the above it was repeated calls so maybe he was worried it was an emergency - but in that case he should’ve at least muted for stream
Sisters - meltdown and death threats were retarded but also the ones acting as if it was a completely neutral and understandable thing for Reimu to do were also retarded
Finana - as has been said above, she is easily led and dumb as a box of rocks, this was clearly an inflammatory situation and instead of avoiding the drama she inexplicably decided to insert herself into it by criticising a fanbase known to be incredibly menhera
Shitshow all round, really

>>93031530
She was the lowest of the three, but in general she was on par with Elira, just slightly below.
iirc Elira started off the biggest because of model buff and because Pomu had to take an extended hiatus for surgery soon after debut. It took a while for Pomu to rocket ahead of them.
Eventually Finana pissed off fucking everybody who wanted to watch her and chased them all away, and you can trace most of it (if not literally all of it) back to the valoguard.

>>93031862
If I remember right, the largest loss was when she claimed out of nowhere she was no longer going to be lewd, would no longer do ASMR, and started insulting her fanbase. She'd flake constantly to play with this discord group she joined and catered all of her content to THEM instead of her actual audience.

>>93031862
1-3k-ish?
Then gradually dropped into sub 1k throughout 2023. Dropped to 500-600 around Selen Shock when the Finana unit was coined in, and a couple of months later she hit sub 1 Finana

>>OP
I didn't really care that much about her one way or the other before she let her groomers convince her that "trap" was an offensive word and that we should educate ourselves about it

>>93031933
The problem is Finana loves to dip herself into any drama she can, often having it blow back horrifically on her, as it did with Vox/Reimu and Zaion.
It's like she HAS to open her stupid mouth and look incredibly hypocritical.
It'd be endearing if she wasn't hurting real people with it (mostly herself).

>>93030869
People like you are the cancer of the modern world, allowing fake news to fester just because it promotes your "agenda" while shutting up and cancelling people who attempt to clear the noise.
I've seen people from all of the political spectrum do it, it pisses me off when even people I consider to be "reasonable" or "rational" happily indulge in this practice, while they ignore the fact that if you have a fake, inaccurate view of the world and its problems your solutions to those problems are gonna be shit.

because of all the things she has said and done, all of her words and deeds

>>93030758
>used to have average of 2-3k
>current average of 256
>dropped down to 2view status in one stream
Has there ever been a bigger fall from grace with any corpo tuber when they're still at the same company?

Finana is basically Yuko Yurei if she was fat and ugly

>>93035023
Finana isn't fat or ugly though (as far as I've seen) whereas Yuko is ugly. But yes it's a similar situarion.

>>93030869
actual retard

>>93035023
yuko somehow managed to do even dumber shit than finana though

>>93027603
NIJICOPE

>>93030409
Honestly flipping horny indians screaming for feet sounds kind of good to me. Its clear that she doesn't earn enough even with these people to be successful so why even try to entertain this kind of scum.

>>93024002
This, you don't just do a 180 and expect the fanbase to stay

>>OP
She's a brat but not the kayfabe vtuber ha ha funny she's a brat, She's the real thing

>>93036761
>Went from getting $1000+ in supas for 1hour ASMR to getting $20 in supas playing Valorant & League for 8 hours

>>93037471
So you think she should have made 1 asmr gooner stream for pajeets every week for next 40 years?

>>93031933
Why did you bother writing a whole paragraph with bs from this site when the archive is up there for anybody that wants to confirm it? There was never a call, that became twisted here. There was no unmuted audio because reimu never called him, the idiot was looking at her stream while answering her questions she sent through a message and roleplayed it as a call with no audio because there was never a call lmfao. Girl sent him a message, dude for some reason turn that into a phone call rp to answer that question instead of replying with a normal message on discord later.
You're as retarded as all of them.

>>93037696
You arent the master manipulator you think you are, dumbass

>>93027862
>when she's great already?
I hate fucks like you the most, Finana has been struggling for the past year, she even admits it in her new Year Stream
She has talked about making new content, limiting her Gacha, and now revealing she has Tax issues that she needs to slowly pay.
And yet you pretending to be a fan of her are so delusional to pretend she is in a good spot. The fact is that she is not, and your kind are just damaging her further

>>93037067
this
i'd really love to correct but she's already been tainted by her groomers
massive waste of potential

>>93037960
$1000 isn't as much as you think it is Raj. Especially after YT, Anycolor and Uncle Sam take their cuts.

>>93037966
You sound really angry for someone who just came here to revel in her misery. She'll do what she'll do. Don't worry about that.

so uh is she

>>93038128
graduating this year and getting a regular job? All signs point to yes.

>>OP
Played the slut role. Played the GFE role.
Then acts surprised why she attracted a certain type of fans and dares shame them and publically call them out.

This bitch antagonized the money pigs and the good will of people who realized what levels of egotistical dumbfuckery she went to. The accusations against Sayu didnt help her either cause everyone knows this girl is that fucking stupid and self centered that the so called "gaslighting" could have been her misunderstanding and forgetting all kinds of shit.

Since 2021 she has been disgustingly retarded, I'm not sure how she's even alive.

>>93025875
>"the clique" contains whoever is convenient for the narrative at the moment. this question is completely meaningless and so are any answers to it
The clique is elira and her pre-nijisanji friends like enna and uki.

>>93038033
Yes, because unlike you I take criticism well.
I know you are either a shitposter or Ironmonkey, the only simp she has left.
>She'll do what she'll do
And what will that be? Going back to lewd ASMR to pay the bill? Admit it man, she is struggling and its only as matter of time she does something stupid again if she doesn't get better. We know she is struggling financially, but her mentality is not that bright, instead of cutting off what hurt her she is just making an attempt to reduce it

>>93025875
My experience with boomers in the family is that at a certain point selfish idiocy becomes indistinguishable from actual malice. If you're an idiot who only prioritizes yourself which ends up fucking other people over as fallout and make that obvious, you are just as cancerous as someone who is actively out to fuck another person over.

>>93038272
I always thought the gaslighting thing was management convincing her that sayu is the bad guy. She is someone who I think genuinely meant what she said. God why is she so retarded, fucked over the one person who cared about her. Now doesn't have anyone other than friendly acquaintances in the corpo.

>>93025875
>"the clique" contains whoever is convenient for the narrative at the moment. this question is completely meaningless and so are any answers to it

Its always been clear, no idea what you are on about.
Elira. Enna. Millie. Uki. Shu. Claude. You can add in Shxto as well with how he was some honorary Niji EN at some point. All IRL friends, all part of the same circle from before Niji.

>>93038029
keep trying sister, eventually you'll be believable, because you'll believe it

>>93038440
I am not the original poster who called her "great", that guy was probably trolling. I just found it funny how angry you sounded considering all you came here to do is to laugh at her.

Muh mentality. There is no criticism. You have already written her off. She is dead. And it's okay, that's your right, completely understandable. She betrayed her friends, she betrayed her fans, she is stupid, she deserves to rot alone in misery. You fucks already love whats happening to her so why the pretense? Just make a funny haha joke and move on.

>>93027703
>the first split was outright dropped on her in private
Not really, the major split happened in DMs between the fanbase. The most active of her fans noticed the strange behavior of who we now know as the Valoguards. It started with Finana giving them more attention while ignoring her regulars. This started when they began spamming valorant clips on her twitter tags, which stopped when her biggest fan told them to stop.
It wasn't till later where she was found playing Valorant with them offline, so of course many old time fans felt betrayed by this. They had supported her since she started, and Finana just ignored them to play with a small group that were acting out to get her attention.
After her regulars started to speak out about their displeasure, the Valoguards started mocking her fans, wondering why they felt betrayed, and even telling them to take "meds". Of course Finana knew all this, she had joined their discord group to play games, so it's no wonder why a great number of her fans left after this.
Pic related was a common reaction to the situation a lot of Ryuguards were at the time. And its why she lost her biggest Donators, Fan Artist and Fan projects

All will be forgiven if she shows more of those milk tanks.

>>93039098
What milk tanks???

>>93038821
I do agree that those threads are made to mock her, but if you read the conversations its obvious some old fans still hold hope for the good times. People didn't start off hating Finana, it's something she earned

Finana is a garbage person and does not deserve my empathy

>>93038987
Damn she's just like Hex. Except replace valorant with fortnite.

>>93039328
she deserves correction

>>93035190
Hontōni Hontō?
Give me the source or some search keywords.I need some material to masturbate with her slutty asmr.

>>93039441
Maybe with a rented dick

>>93039148
>Most
No all if them. Which is fine of course. She deserves it haha
>rest
There is no hope. The old fans, even if they didn't hate her won't come back because of niji. All this is hoopla is just to make fun of her and reflect on what was and could have been. But that's okay. She is a pos who deserves all the mockery and hate.
>>93039328 is absolutely right. Let her rot alone.

>>93039138
If you know you know

>>93038440
Nah, it's probably Ryesia, phrasing is similar to the "call outs" he makes in Twitter. IronMonkey doesn't use 4chan
Could be Silver, but idk how keen he is to white knight Finana after the Valoguards publicly attacked him.

>>OP
She is a giant fucking hypocrite about a variety of things because she bases all her opinions on whatever her discord groomers believe. But then just does the complete opposite when it benefits her.

>>93038638
>You can add in Shxto as well with how he was some honorary Niji EN at some point.
Eh, at some point in 2022 he seems to have caused a clean break with NijiEN. This break seems to be why he kept all of the fans he got during the Luxiem boom. Hell, he invited Doki into a collab a few months back and apparently was helping her get acquainted with that fleshie group.

>>93038638
>Shxto
Doesn't really work unless you suggest he is now no longer part of it and dropped them when it was convenient. He's collabed with Doki a few times now - one of which was him specifically inviting her.

>>93040731
>IronMonkey doesn't use 4chan
he does, he's also close to the valoguard peeps

>>93041601
Ironmonkey seems to me to be most of a snake, dude likes to play both sides for his benefit, it's no secret he was secretly jealous of Finana's Huge donators. He follows all the valoguards and is the only one always still active as he was back then.
Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't he one who attacked silver and maestro?

>>93041601
So much for having a sliver of hope.
Any other of the 2021 Ryuguards is still active there?

>>93042052
Maestro got attacked? That's the first I've heard of it

>>93041157
You do realise he regularly talks to Nijien boys and still collabs with them fairly often.

>>OP
real answer? She let herself be groomed already and then got pumped and dumped. She was the one people always wanted to groom the most but now she doesnt even have attraction thanks to that and all her shit takes.

>>OP
She is dumb, like legit dumb, not average ditzy female "dumb". She has multiple instances of being groomed, goes along with whatever anyone says and every few months does an aboutface and dumps on her fans.

>>93038987
What ever happened to the ryuguard anon who posted this?

>>OP
She decided to go full retard when she was already retarded

>>93039328
She's not garbage, but woefully misguided.

>>93034749
>>93035203
Enjoy only being known as a measurement of 300 viewers

>>OP
She told me, a parasocial fuck, to get lost.

>>93038987
This is actually evil. Why would you do that to your biggest supporters and fans

>>93043028
Nta but when was the last time he collabed with a Niji out of interest?

>>OP
educate yourself

>>93045505
I agree but I doubt there's turning back at this point.

>>93046844
Not that long ago really. He came up on my tl homobaiting with uki

>>OP
Because she got groomed by the blonde pino bwitch before I could. Yes, it would be that easy.

>>OP
because she's legit fucking retarded

>>93046369
Pick one
>She though she could do anything and they will still follow her
>She didn't liked her fanbase and wanted a different audience

Oh no bros, is Vedal going to get a visit from MI5?

For clarification, I was in this thread because I find this incompetent dumbass and her evil women partner Elira attractive sluts

https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Hanamori

i need to blow a load on finana's fat tits

who??

>>93049218
I'm sorry I'm confused, are we making a based list here?

I WANT TO FERTILIZE HER FISH EGGS

>>93024318
>>She talked about getting DP'd one time of something

That wasn't her, that was Yuzu (MSM i think). The worst we know of Finana is the recorder story.

I think that chuubas that fuck up but try their best to not do it again and make up for it are the best ones. Too bad they don't exist.

>>OP
>finana posting again
someone post the screen shot of that simp forgiving her like 12 times before moving on and let the thread die.

>>OP
Why do rocks turn to dust?

>>93057611
PARASOCIAL FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK