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They're getting killed news coverage for making their workers do 243 revisions without payment .

How did it get to this point, holobros?

>> No.88269329

>do my job incorrectly
>have to fix it
OH MAN WHY AM I NOT BEING PAID DOUBLETIME?!

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Incoming holo cultist cope

>> No.88269382
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>>88269242
Guess you could say they'll re...cover

>> No.88269406

>>88269345
It'd be a shit post if it wasn't so accurate

>> No.88269435

>>88269242
Spreading misinformation again I see.

>> No.88269465

>>88269329
>>do my job incorrectly
Source? Where did you get that from? Where does it say that the artists forgot to draw limbs or eyes or heads and had to draw the whole thing over again?

>> No.88269586

>>88269242
Huh how come official jp news didn't cover niji yab thing which should be more scandalous.

>> No.88269605

Protip kid, having to change/redo shit for customers for free is something every business, tradesman, freelancer goes through.

>> No.88269633

>>88269329
Yeah, I'm sure they paid up because it was the artists' fault.

>> No.88269686

>>88269465
If they did the job right it wouldn't need 243 revisions.

>> No.88269693
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>>88269345
Corpocucks taking L after L KEKW

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>>88269345

>> No.88269811

>>88269242
WTF BROS?

>> No.88269822

>>88269633
It's obvious that the Artist wasn't competent enough for the job they gave him.

Which case you pay them the bare minimum then blacklist them from working for you again.

COVER's problem was they didn't realize that.

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>>88269693
Don't use my oshi to shitpost.

>> No.88270008

>>88269586
Riku has a lot of connections and uses them to attack Cover whenever he can.

>> No.88270180

>>88269866
Im going to use your oshi to cum

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>>88269382

>> No.88270342

>>88269686
How do you know they did their job wrong? What if they finished a comission and at the last moment someone wanted an extra hair tie or bow, or laces in their dress? Even a different pose or scene composition than the original? What if projects had to be scrapped because of permissions?

Again where is your source that they did their job wrong?

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Post Cheebs

>> No.88270445

>>88269586
Maintaining your business among competitors is a bloody matter especially. Either use your connections and delve your hands in corruption and illegal practices or get swept away by the tides.

>> No.88270472

>>88269866
God I want to impregnate Sayu.

>> No.88270506

>>88270342
Because it's making you seethe and use very obvious sister arguments.
Cover is not Nijisanji.

>> No.88270529

>>88270342
Nta, but it goes both ways. Where is your source they did it right?
>Verification not required.

>> No.88270538

>>88269586
>Nijisanji controls the news and the government
Holobronies actually believe this

>> No.88270621

>>88270008
Riku is a shit billionaire, good riddance

>> No.88270710
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>>88270538
Holoantis are being paid by Nijisanji though

>> No.88270720

>>88270538
No but you can significantly reduce the amount of negative coverage. Nijisanji did this and everything got buried just fine by being forgotten through time or silencing others using threat of slander laws.

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>>88270393

>> No.88270949

>>88269345
The other corpos wish they had this little drama, brown.

>> No.88270947

>>88269242
Simple, Cover is actually relevant and they needed a big name to push for a legislation to fix an industry-wide issue.

>> No.88270955

>>88270710
Same group that spam anti holo messages in every social media whenever holo has a slight yab in jp. You might say it's useless but it does have an effect for people not in the know. The most frustrating part about all of this is that yagoo keeps getting close to niji that tries to stab them whenever they can.

>> No.88271002

>>88270506
So you got nothing and you're just an NPC cultist? Way to go holosis.
>>88270529
If they did their job wrong why did cover pay them?
Moreso why are you so adamant in defending the multimillionare company that exploits artists?

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>>88269242
your spam campaign didnt work, discord tranny. here is the whole 24hrs

>> No.88271048

If the law doesn;t come into effect until november, why is cover in trouble?
The government knows that there's something even more fucked up deeper and they sent a warning

>> No.88271099

>>88271048
They're not. This is a report coming out after the fact things got resolved and is basically just an advertisement to draw eyes towards the new upcoming law.

>> No.88271119

>>88269586
cause cover fucked with JP people, Japan dont give a shit about EN Vtuber drama, i mean the whole Filian thing only became know to the artist after a nendoroid was already made

>> No.88271141

So, does this mean Mizuryu Kei was right all along?

>> No.88271150

>>88269633
revisions are a normal part of any trade whether it is carpentry, drawing or coding.

>> No.88271167

>>88271141
No he was legitimately being a big bitch.

>> No.88271166

>>88271119
Nothing to see here goyim cover can do no wrong

>> No.88271237

>>88271002
They payed the artists upfront before they even began the work or got instructions. Did COVER and the artist have a verbal or signed contract where it was stated they would be paid for extra revisions and if so how many revisions?

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I'm anti corpo in general, so I win either way.

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>>88270710
dont post just a half anonchama
>adish, corpo confirmed to work for nijisanji in the past as a >monitoring/discussion "guidance" aid team, found to be hiring for scripts to spam 5ch and possibly other sites , just a little before the wave of anti holo shits comes like a wave

>> No.88271366

>>88271285
Dooby and Doki are the way forward.
Corpos deserve to suffer

>> No.88271524

>>88271295
This sounds like a vtuber industry news worthy. Wonder why dramatubers won't cover it.

>> No.88271531
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Btw if anyone wants to know why sisters are getting pissy about this right now it's because that one Lawyer youtuber currently has a livestream going on and he painted Cover in too much of a good light for the sisters + it got overshadowed by the news about Crunchyroll committing mail fraud which is an actual felony.

>> No.88271559

>>88269465
The businesses delivered the products in accordance with the purchase orders, but were ordered to redo the work a total of 243 times, with reasons such as "the hair movements should be smoother" and "the body shape is unbalanced." The company did not pay the businesses any of the additional work fees.
https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/national/20241025-OYT1T50126/

>> No.88271586

>>88271285
>>88271366
That’s nice, Che, but I hope you posted this from a responsibly-sourced proletariat machine.

>> No.88271587
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>>88269345
An evergreen image.
A modern Michelangelo.

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>>88271586
Seethe corponigger senzawa will join us soon

>> No.88271726

>>88270710
>>88271295
Is this shit even legal in Japan? anti deformation island

>> No.88271786

>>88271726
only if they could 100% prove the bots spam is from them, not easy

>> No.88271790

>>88270342
anon, literally everyone non-holofags will say to you hololive has a shit 2D rigging. even some random no name 2view indies watcher says that. now we know why, the rigger is impossible to work with, they need to do 243 revisions to be passable quality, imagine what they shit out without the revision.

>> No.88271819

>>88271524
Jp has anti-slander laws also if you against this group they'll go after you with their bots.

>> No.88271850

>>88271099
makes sense, catalog subhumans will still run with it

>> No.88271862
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>>88271667
>using doki to attack corpos
fuck off. Stop dragging my girl into your stupid tribal wars.

>> No.88271881

>>88271786
This, sadly. But once they have any evidence on the shit niji is doing they will crack them open fully.

>> No.88271951

>>88271790
Again how do you know that they did their job wrong? Why do you glance over the fact a huge percentage of revisions are cosmetic and not functional?
Do you get paid to deepthroat cover or do you do it for free?

>> No.88272011

>>88271586
I think of it more like breaking up big monopolies/ oligopolies to help facilitate healthier capitalist competition. Either way, the chuubas themselves shall own the means of production!

>> No.88272020

>>88269242
This a black company, I will support Phase Connect now.

>> No.88272145

>>88271531
>Crunchyroll committing mail fraud which is an actual felony.
Japanese still don't know what Crunchyroll is doing?

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>>88271119
JP people...
good thing anycolor is there to defend them.
pic is what they did with yumenographia

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this shit didn't even trend

>> No.88272311

>>88271881
>crack them open
Hololive is too friendly with nijisanji to do that. It goes against their culture love by everyone thing

>> No.88272339

>>88271951
>Again how do you know that they did their job wrong
because if they weren't wrong, hololive rigging wouldn't be so shit compared to indies.

>> No.88272522

>>88272311
Not Hololive will crack them, but the Japanese Goverment.
For Niji this would not be just a simple slap on the wrist but a full on investigation on malpractises.

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>>88271951
guras original rhombus rigger was a hack who probably accounts for 100 of the retarded revisions, considering how long it took to become even decent

>> No.88272702

>>88272145
It doesn't affect them in anyway nor does anything crunchyroll do intrude in their interest since they mostly focus on jp market and anything outside of it is just an afterthought. So it doesn't matter for them if their culture and anime works is altered and made as an ideological platform as long as it's done outside japan.

>> No.88272948

>>88272522
Not a single police went to investigate the yab thing. So there's no hope especially if niji can easily silence the affected parties like they did with their livers. Also wasn't there exploitation done by niji in the past too where they even blackmailed them? And in the end still payed half the agreed amount and the victim moved on since they didn't want to go against a billion dollar company

>> No.88273117

>>88272948
Laws are laws it won't care even if it's a big company.

>> No.88273316

>>88272948
Niji must have some kind of connections, at least with how much they got away with. But eventually it will surface and the law will get involved, some of these black companies operate for a long while before it comes to that though.

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>>88269242
Reliable information brought to light by a heroic whistle blower!
Fortunately he decided to use his connections within the business world for good and not evil.

>> No.88273651

NijiGODs KEEP WINNING

>> No.88273741

>>88272702
Nope they just don't know english to understand the fuckery crunchyroll is doing.

>> No.88274139

>>88271862
NTA but she's drama incarnate, it's her whole shtick. She's going to get dragged into all the drama until she graduates.

>> No.88274328

>>88270529
>Where is your source they did it right?
Cover's own statement where they admitted fault.

>> No.88274471

>>88270342
Anon, the hit piece in the newspaper gave examples of their requests and it was "this shit is lagging" and "you fucked up the proportions"

>> No.88274658

>>88272702
Nips barely pay attention to what happens outside of Japan until it becomes such big news that Japanese news media covers it. They didn't realize western VAs were fucking with their anime for a decade.

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>>88270949
>this little drama
>breaks labor laws
>little

>> No.88274687

>>88274139
...how?

>> No.88274688

>>88269693
>Sayu.png
Ironic with how rude Sayu was to her own mamma.

>> No.88274897

>>88274671
The dramanigs not covering this and the lawyer guy glazing Cover really mind broke you all huh?

>> No.88275323

>>88274897
I could careless about pedo mindset and troon'deyed

>> No.88275394

>>88271881
Cover is too much of a doormat when it comes to Niji. Riku could reduce their 3D studio to rubble with a note saying "Riku wuz here" and Yagoo would shrug his shoulders and propose another joint anti-slander pact

>> No.88275430

>>88271119
The Niji YAB drama had nothing to do with EN, it was entirely JP

>> No.88275594

>>88270955
yagoo is desperate for the male liver success secret sauce. He has vested interest in not letting niji fail

>> No.88275636

I don't think the average person here comprehends how bad Cover's reputation is in the shitter in Japan. They're getting absolutely obliterated on 2chan, twitter, Youtube, and in the comments of pretty much every article on the big news sites. They're going to have to make back payments to all the artists to make this go away.

>> No.88275751

>>88275636
>I don't think the average person here comprehends how bad Cover's reputation is in the shitter in Japan
not the first time it happened

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>>88275323
Sure didn't seem like that yesterday

>> No.88275862

>>88273316
Isn't Riku a literal trust fund baby?

>> No.88275899

>>88275636
So you’re saying there’s a few news reports and an online smear campaign trying to blow it out of proportion, got it. You’ll notice that the documents show they already made those back payments plus interest, by the way.

>> No.88275983

>>88275899
that's not what people say online

>> No.88275993

>>88275852
take your meds schizo lol

>> No.88276057

>>88275899
They're a bit mad that the people they WANT to talk about this stuff either won't or fully support Cover.

>> No.88276116

>>88275983
People say a bunch of shit.

>> No.88276138

>>88269605
The US government disagrees.

>> No.88276422

>>88275862
Yes

>> No.88276652

>>88270710
Take your meds already

>> No.88276670

>>88275751
nah this is bad but not in vt terms it has more to do with ethics and honour. Their reputation in Japan took a hit.

>> No.88276683

>>88271048
They're not in trouble. It was a payment dispute which was resolved quite awhile ago. The Japanese government is using this as an example for other companies to resolve these kinds of disputes because of recent regulations they promulgated.

The Sisters running around screaming OMG BURAKKKU COMPANY are either too stupid to know what they're reading, or deliberately lying as usual. It's sometimes hard to tell which is which because they are not exactly brimming with what I'd call intellectual firepower.

>> No.88276785

>>88275636
See >>88270710 for why that is

>> No.88276897

>>88269345
>>88269406
it would be more accurate if you guys weren't nijifags.

>> No.88276953

>>88276683
The payment dispute in question:
> Workers not getting paid until two years after
> Workers not getting the late fees that Hololive was contractually obligated to pay them for being years late on payment
> Workers not getting paid to do 243 different revisions on model

The Japanese government isn't out to get your oshi company, bootlicker. They broke the law and are getting forced to pay up

>> No.88276970

honestly niji has gotten past worse stuff
no reason cover wont, hell they already are

>> No.88277163

>>88276970
>Cover caught breaking the law and scamming the fuck out of their workers by the government
>This faggot: "They'll get away with it"

They were caught breaking the law. No rrats, full on government evidence. Their reputation is in the shit in Japan. They don't like it when people break laws so they can abuse their workers

>> No.88277206

>>88275636
pfft >>88272267

>> No.88277264

>>88276953
>Workers not getting paid to do 243 different revisions on model
Reading comprehension just never reached your part of the world huh

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Do you think you're fooling anyone in here sister?

>> No.88277355

>>88277163
i'm talking about repercussions, they've basically already paid shit and I doubt this shit will stick for long
nissan did the same thing (shitaukehou violation) with hundreds of millions of dollars and literal thousands of involved subcontracted companies and people forgot about it too.
Like, I watched Miko's sololive and I realize nothing can challenge Cover's hegemony anymore

>> No.88277364

>>88277264
You can't even listen to a news channel? Grim

>> No.88277372

>>88277292
Do these "sisters" run mainstream japanese news media?

>> No.88277547

>>88276953
The lawyer stream actually debunked this and what essentially is happening is that the government is using this as advertisement for their future work and to promote a new upcoming law. It's why the government said they "recommended" Cover to pay revisions and a late fee (something Cover also stated themselves) because a recommendation to do something is the only thing they can do as the law hasn't and won't be in effect until a later date.

Payment details went like this:
>Cover pays upfront for a commission in full
>Cover asks for revisions later down the line and due the contract not stating anything about revision fees Cover doesn't pay for said revisions
>Payment for the revisions occured as late as a year later due to projects dating back to 2022
>243 revisions in total meaning 11 revisions between the 23 subcontractors each

>> No.88277550

>>88272020
Go fuck your face with a hot iron don't need ya.

>> No.88277560

>>88277355
Nissan doesn't have dedicated haters and allied competitors that would drag them down the first chance they get.

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>>88271531
>he unironically watches retard mindset
KWAB

>> No.88277653

it's over bros my favorite chuuba company took a hit from seething nijikeks and the japanese equvalent of facebook moms

>> No.88277719

>>88277560
The japanese government literally put the CEO of Nissan in the forced confession room and he had to be smuggled out in a bag

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>>88277560
they /literally/ do
don't tell me you're too young to remember based Ghosn

>> No.88277756

>>88270808
this one is pretty good

>> No.88277775

>>88277578
I believe a lawyer more than some illiterate anons yes

>> No.88277846

>>88277547
>The lawyer stream actually debunked this
ah yes the fag who's never been a practicing lawyer, never had any experience and just moved to another country on a whim is going to know a lot more than the people who actually live in japan who are covering these news on the biggest TV channels in the country.

>> No.88277854

>>88271040
imagine failing at wasting your days creating fake outrage over a nothingburger, the sad state of sisters

>> No.88277925

>>88275323
You bitch about them constantly and you lurk bvtm when not even a normal Phase enjoyer does that. Just to have shit post material here for 'le Phase bad' mantra. You created your own shit posting echo chamber / bubble you are the biggest toxic morons in /vt/

>> No.88277931

>>88277547
Do you enjoy lying? The news broadcast said they never paid for the revisions. The government recommendation said they will be forced to pay for the revisions. The payments made in late 2023 were the payments for the work on the models.
After obtaining confirmation from the Fair Trade Commission, COVER shall promptly pay the subcontractor an amount equivalent to the cost of having the subcontractor redo the delivery free of charge after receiving the delivery due to the act described in (1)(a) above.

>After obtaining confirmation from the Fair Trade Commission, COVER shall promptly pay the subcontractor an amount equivalent to the cost of having the subcontractor redo the delivery free of charge after receiving the delivery due to the act described in (1)(a) above.

They broke the subcontractor law which is already in effect. Watch the news

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ITT /#/trannies got lost on their way to the pagpag stall
Specially this one >>88271531
Dickriding grifter mindset

>> No.88278070

>>88277547
>The lawyer

Show me a case he's worked at and explain why I should trust him over the government and the Japanese national news

>> No.88278088

>>88273392
this, given that artists themselves have come out and said they didn't care and cover wasn't actually treating them badly it's a real mystery why this suddenly became a thing. JP niji fans already are known to use and abuse any system they can to try to fuck with cover. the Holocaust which turned the entire perms paradigm at Cover from "it's ok just do whatever" to the gestapo regime it is today, is literally the fault of nijisanji fans mass reporting Mio's channel. they fight dirty and their fans reflect their fucking rotting putrid organs as well.

>> No.88278176

>>88277931
Nta but post fines they have to pay, how much they need to pay for the government.

>> No.88278280

So let me get this right, cover abuses their artists they commission, and all of you are defending the millionaire company trampling over the lifeblood of vtubing?

>> No.88278328

>>88278176
>Between July 2022 and February 2024, Cover did not pay the subcontractor fees by the predetermined payment due date to the subcontractors it had commissioned to create information deliverables, despite receiving the subcontractor's services through the acts described in 2(1)(i) above. (The amount of late interest due to the said payment delays was 1,152,642 yen in total for 29 subcontractors.)

Once the government runs the numbers, they're gonna have to pay up for the free labor they forced artists to do

>> No.88278404

>>88273392
>The sisters control the government and the news

Sisters really are powerful huh

>> No.88278446

>>88278280
They got paid originally so where is the abuse? Quantifying payment of touch ups takes time since those can be mistakes everyone during the creation process / bug, etc

>> No.88278550

>>88277931
>The news broadcast
kek here we go with the clickbait journos retardation. Go read the official statements from cover and jf- whatever i cant remember the name

>> No.88278648

>>88278446
>They got paid so there's no abuse

If you work 8 hours a day for 200 dollars and I force you to work 24 hours instead but still pay you the same 200 dollars, is that not abuse?

>> No.88278736

>>88278328
>1,152,642 yen
= $7k USD
for 240 cases? thats 30$ per case. thats not comission prices for sure, and yet its the official value given by the jp gov. Which makes it obvious that its payment of interest due to late payments long ago, and not refusal to pay.

>> No.88278838

>>88278550
>The national news is click bait media
>The grifter lawyer on YouTube is a valuable source of information

Meds when

>> No.88278855

>>88278648
i could force you to eat feces and watch taylor swift as well but that would also be a retarded mock up "example" that has nothing to do with this case

>> No.88278864

>>88278280
Ignore the paid shill they only got paid after the news >>88278446

>> No.88278901

>>88278648
If you do such a bad job that you need to do another 24 hours of touch ups then you probably won't be getting anymore work in the future.

>> No.88278909 [DELETED] 

>>88270506
Holonigger...

>> No.88278915

>>88278838
who are you quoting?
>Go read the official statements from cover and jf- whatever i cant remember the name

>> No.88278941

>>88278855
Uh oh melty

>> No.88278945

>>88270710
Nijifags cultivated the same subhuman audience both in the east and in the west. It's impressive.

>> No.88278955

>>88278736
They refused to pay for the 243 revisions and didn't pay the late fees which is why the government got involved

>> No.88279029

>>88278955
dont post your headcannon here, read the official posts

>> No.88279064
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88279064

Looks fine to me.

>> No.88279234

>>88269382
wouldn't need to recover from anything if they just did better job covering it up

>> No.88279292

>>88278736
this, it's the kind of thing nijisis and nousagi/bvtm will pretend is a big cataclysmic yab yagoo's going to jail it's all over etc. when no, this is a fine anyone working at cover could have paid out of pocket by themselves basically.

or, I understand that 7k might as well be like 7 million to someone in the philippines etc but no, it's really nothing for a developed nation.

>> No.88279312

>>88279064
>look at this concert that means cover is above the law
Not sure what you're implying here, did you get the wrong script from the shill discord?

>> No.88279365

>>88279029
>The Japan Fair Trade Commission (JFTC) has conducted an investigation into Cover Corporation (hereinafter referred to as "Cover") and has found that the company has engaged in acts in violation of Article 4, Paragraph 2, Item 4 of the Act against Delay in Payment of Subcontract Proceeds, etc. (hereinafter referred to as the "Subcontracting Act") (prohibition of unjustified changes to the content of services and unjustified redoing of work). As a result, the JFTC has today issued a recommendation to Cover pursuant to Article 7, Paragraph 3 of the Subcontracting Act.

>In addition, as violations of Article 4, Paragraph 1, Item 2 of the Subcontracting Act (prohibition of delays in payment of subcontract fees) were found, guidance was issued today in addition to the recommendation

>> No.88279372

>>88278648
that is a contract bro. nobody's holding a gun to the artists' heads making them sign for cover. they want it, because that gives them the best exposure possible.

>> No.88279508

>>88279312
>cover being forced to pay a fee so small it literally might have been an accounting or rounding error overlooked is "above the law"
given they did something as stupid as forget to renew Ina's visa, this amount we're talking about is so fucking small it unironically probably just slipped through the cracks in their accounting. they wouldn't purposefully risk all this bad publicity to save like $7,000 US. they handle hundreds of millions of dollars; they'd pay it if they realized that was supposed to be paid.

>> No.88279544

>>88272588
Wouldn't it be funny if the rigger who's complaining is this guy. Fucker shouldn't have even been paid a dime for the shit job he did.

>> No.88279617

>>88272588
You might be onto something, Cover probably kept sending this back going "no this is shit, goddamn it umiushit can you please just fix this we don't want to have our literal biggest star and biggest vtuber in history be walking joke with a fiverr quality rig."

>> No.88279656

>>88279508
New shill script dropped
>New shill script dropped
New shill script dropped
>New shill script dropped
New shill script dropped

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>>88269382

>> No.88279700

>>88279508
That's not the total amount of money they have to pay. They still have to pay for the 243 revisions

>> No.88279710

>>88278648
Most quotes have a rough price / number of hours given by the artist who will then confirm at the end how long the job really took and exchange a product. I would assume the revisions fall into fixing the product for quality or additions that were forgotten. The pricing of that stuff does fall into a grey area. Your example of it takes longer than initially took to make the product means there was a major fuck up and generally customer is always right.
The late interest payments are priced so low people are crying about a few hours at this point. If cover really did fuck someone over you best lay out the entire scenario for judgement notnyour bullshit

>> No.88279721

>>88279656
>have no counter to the obvious point
>it's a shill!!!
no, it's just someone seeing things as a working adult would. obviously you are not that but you are free to cope and seethe however you want, this is a fucking nothingburger in reality and there ain't much you can do about it.

>> No.88279852

>>88279721
This angle is not working mate. Report back to your Slack and be more creative.
Abusing artists isn't acceptable and Cover is NOT above the law.
Deal with it.

>> No.88279982

>>88279852
howabout you stop samefagging outrage ITT since apparently it's devastating to you that nobody actually cares and this isn't the epic win shitstorm you wanted it to be. you're spending your saturday night on this. I don't even have to say anything, you already lost at life.

>> No.88280008

>>88279852
>abusing artists isnt acceptsble
That's where you are wrong, kiddo

>> No.88280069

>>88279982
>no u
Does your handler even allow you to be salty?

>> No.88280084

>>88272588
In that case, Cover should've cancelled the job with Umiushit and gotten another rigger

>> No.88280136

Lmao the raid couldn't be more obvious.

>> No.88280238

>>88273117
Laws only matter if they're enforced

>> No.88280375

>>88273117
Which is why we have literal child labor being used in big companies

>> No.88280554
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>>88269345
KEK

>> No.88280803

>>88280084
They fired him eventually, Anya's face mask was the last job he ever got as a rigger iirc

>> No.88281600

>>88279710
Cover did not finish paying artists for work that was in the contract for two years. They give them an initial payment and only gave them the rest years after the work was finished. They didn't pay them for any extra late fees either and they forced them to do 243 free revisions. Cover fucked at least 23 workers over

>> No.88281988

>>88280238
Wow, you should work for Cover. They could use your expertise

>> No.88282518

>>88279372
Then why did Cover break the contract by not paying them for years and not paying the late fees too?

>> No.88283523

>>88269242
Nothingburger btw

>> No.88284025

>>88277958
What the fuck is the source of the crying fucker meme, I saw it once looking into the shitty dbs threads on /a/ and now it seems like its spreading

>> No.88284902

>>88276897
>it'd be accurate if I didn't already dislike (You)
*clap clap* next cope!

>> No.88286229

>>88269465
Do I have to remind you of the Okayu 3D that had her almost ugly sobbing or Luna banner fiasco? The girls will defend the staff out of duty and tell us not to be too harsh on them but we all know the staff fuck up constantly and most likely any overtime is just redoing stuff they fucked up.

>> No.88288143

>>88278838
>national news cant be trusted
correct
>grifter lawyer cant be trusted
also correct

The only thing that matters here are the official documents. Not the journos or the lawyers headcanon. And the official documents speak of ~1200000 yen. So basically 7000 dollar/euro.
I dont know about you, but i i had my BMW serviced earlier this week and that set me back 2600 Euros. 7000 Euros, for a company the size of Cover, is an actual nothingburger. Especially when we spread it over the 29 subcontractors.

But hey, if you want to shit on Cover just to piss of some holodrones go right ahead. We all do a little bit of trolling now and again.

>> No.88289161

Holosisters.... We support a black company

>> No.88289704

>Law doesn't go in to affect until November
>ERMM ACKSHUALLY THEY BROKE THE LAW
Don't even get started with "Maybe it's retroactive" because it isn't. Jesas Christ I keep forgetting how people just don't read or retain any information whatsoever these days so they can push braindead conspiracy theories and act like smug retards about it. Go back to arguing about the Earth being flat or about how the weather gets super charged by the government or whatever it is you losers do.

>> No.88290556

>>88289704
there are maybe 5 people on this board that can read and speak japanese, dont expect much...

>> No.88290562
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>>88279292
Uhm actually it 6.7mil dollar

>> No.88291077

>>88290562
holy shit 1 dollar is 150yen
remember when it was 100yen per dollar
japan economy is really going to shit

>> No.88291114

>>88279852
>abusing artists
This entire fucking post has a similar after taste as
>right side of history bigot
i cant wait for artists to be replaced by machines.

>> No.88291301

>>88291077
Everything is going to shit.
You will own nothing.
Dollar doesnt buy the same shit it did a mere decade ago.
Euro is... well, the fucking Euro. Where are the Guilders, the Marks, the Francs?
All western nations are forced to compete with cheap foreign labour, instead of closing their fucking borders to cheap foreign goods.

>> No.88291314

>>88290562
>can't even read
>can't even math
And we suppose to listen to these nijiretard? Next they going to say cover being sue by ftc and artist.

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>>88279312
Looks fine to me.

>> No.88295295

>>88293274
This bot is broken

>> No.88296036

>>88291077
unironically now is a really good time to visit japan if you ever wanted to

>> No.88296130

>hey we would like to commission a l2d rig for one of our talent
>k
>months later: here you go a rig
>this looks like shit and barely works? are you going to fix this?
>k
>months pass: here you go
>the fuck this looks even worse? we will pay you but not the extra work you did for the "fix"
>REEEEEEE GOVERNMENT HELP ME
>Government: Hey you gotta pay the man
>fine whatever

In case anyone is wondering why this story isnt trending

>> No.88297481

Retard here, what is this 243 number about?

>> No.88299747

>>88278280
Artists have a reputation for scamming their clients. No one cares that it's come back to bite them.

>> No.88299830

>>88297481
Number of times Cover had to have a model fixed for it to be passable for use in projects because the people working on it couldn't do it right.

>> No.88300371

>>88296130
>In case anyone is wondering why this story isnt trending

Yes. It's not it made national news or anything

>> No.88300423

>>88289704
Retard. They broke the subcontractor law. Not any new law. It's okay. You can support a black company if you want. Just don't take the moral high ground

>> No.88300564

>>88297481
Number of times Cover forced artists to redo models without paying them

>> No.88300705

>>88297481
Total number of times revisions made across multiple projects and artists.

>> No.88301060

>>88279292
>Getting caught breaking the law isn't a big yab

>Ex Niji member complaining about Niji management for the sixth time is

>> No.88301419

>>88290556
You can just watch the news

>> No.88301522

>>88301060
Well you better go sue Cover then. You have undeniable proof they broke the law right? Eas ymoney

>> No.88301611

>>88301522
https://www.jftc.go.jp/houdou/pressrelease/2024/oct/241025_cover.html

Why would I sue them if they already got caught by the government?

>> No.88301653

>>88301611
Damn what a shame the JP government stole your money
Wait, they broke the law too? Uh oh...

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88302007

>>88269345
>Hololive Fans

>> No.88302136

>>88301653
Holobronies are losing their mind

>> No.88302166

>>88274139
You haven't watched a second of Doki. Sit the fuck back down, tourist.

>> No.88302212

>>88302007
Me on the right

>> No.88302247

>>88277925
get laid sister

>> No.88302654

>>88288143
>1200000 yen. So basically 7000 dollar/euro
Damn, that's less than what Pekora lost betting on horses

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>>88269242
>>88269345
omg hololive is dying fr fr in two more weeks!

>> No.88303322

This thread derailed hard into classic Nijisister seethe kek

>> No.88303356

>>88276897
HOLOSEETHE

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>please talk about this yab please please please AHHHHHHHAHHHAHHHHHHHAHHHAHHHHHHHHHHHH
looks like spamming on /vt/ doesn't help your cause, bintranny

>> No.88303615

>>88269329
Cover said it was their fault, causing miscommunication that lead to the revisions, which is why they got called out and paid up.
>as a result of incorrect wording in written order specifications and instructions.
The reason they gave for the delayed payments was the large amount of orders and transactions they did during their expansion and their staff being incompetent to handle all the payments in time.
Can you fucking drones at least read the words of your holy corpooslop YaGOD himself, you fucking retards?

>> No.88303715

>>88303529
Actual holocuck melty

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>>88303715
uh oh bintranny seethe
how does it feel no one talks about this anymore outside of /vt/?

>> No.88303789

>>88303715
Imagine what Holocucks would do to FalseEyeD if he'd report on this incident.

>> No.88303909

>>88272011
good luck surviving for next 5 years

>> No.88303935

>>88269242
just wondering if hololive/cover did crash because of this Yab, which corpo is more likely to be vt target next?

>> No.88303961

>>88303781
>Thread about it being reported by Japanese news and TV stations
>See, no one talks about this anymore besides this board
>Selenposter
OK. retard.

>> No.88303996

>>88269242
DELETE THIS!!!
DELETE THIS NOW!!!

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>>88303961
haha trannyCOPE, im sure this will trending BIG on twitter in two more weeks after creating all these useless baiting threads

>> No.88304093

>samefagging

>> No.88304121

really weird how this site, and EN dramafags went silent on this yab. They really are holofags
or at the very least nijians

>> No.88304176

>>88269242
QRD?

>> No.88304335

>>88304176
cover violates a law no one ever knew existed, gets reprimanded, paid for revision work interest/late fee.

>> No.88304768

>>88304335
You didn't know that there was a law that says you need to pay for something that you've commissioned?

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>>88304768
nah, the whole issue doesn't make sense to me honestly. I'm no conspiracy theorist, but the whole thing happened and was resolved 1 year ago, april-december 2023, the interest and the late payment stuff for extra/revision work.
1 year old resolved issue was made public hours right after hololive announced the 6th Holofes, coincidence???

>> No.88305258

>>88305195
It wasn't resolved

>> No.88305452

>>88304121
They're Niji antis with half of them also being Holo/Vshoujo fags

>> No.88305546

This contract based gig job economy needs to end to be honest.
I'm tired of the same gigslop jobs getting put out and companies keep pushing how much "free shit" they can pull out of a single work. It's a worldwide problem and not only vtubing.
Every vtuber agency should start building their in house studio media production. Stop contracting menial shit and hoping it'll work for the long run.

>> No.88305583

>>88271237
>Payed
You just lost.

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So people are gonna get arrested for this right? People are gonna be forced to resign right?
Thats what this is going to lead to right??

>> No.88305824

>>88269242
This is getting ignored here because cover shills a LOT here by the way. I can't get into how I know but it's going to get more obvious as they have more come out about the company. They astroturf a lot of support for themselves, and a lot of interaction you see on these threads will be defenses with bad grammar and weirdly japanese excuses. Just wanted to give a heads up, believe me or not but it's the truth and has been for a very long time.

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>>88305808
hololive is going down just like nijiEN in two more weeks. trust the plan.

>> No.88305912

>>88269242
This is why Aqua left

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88305951

>>88303529
>fake mint fan seething
I'm on holo side now.

>> No.88306455

>>88305808
Big corporations always get away with it. They'll be back to not paying their employees next week

>> No.88306590

>>88272588
Chest hole was the best part of Rhumba

>> No.88306776

>>88305824
With all the disingenuous faggots here, I have no choice but to believe it

>> No.88306851

>>88304070
It already is trending big on Twitter

>> No.88306906

>>88303615
/thread

>> No.88307095

>>88303615
>Implying Holobronies know how to read

>> No.88307198

>>88269345
/Thread

>> No.88307254

>>88279365
>delays in payment were found
kek you are retarded

>> No.88307311

>>88290562
kek wtf is this

>> No.88307344

I'm sorry but if your revision count is in the triple digits you fucked up.
I've done writing commissions, I've paid for art commissions.
Never once in any instance have either me or who I'm commissioning done more than 5.
The artist just seems bad.

>> No.88307366

>>88303529
kek its always that tranny

>> No.88307472

>>88307254
> After obtaining confirmation from the Fair Trade Commission, COVER shall promptly pay the subcontractor an amount equivalent to the cost of having the subcontractor redo the delivery free of charge after receiving the delivery due to the act described in (1)(a) above

>> No.88307921

>>88269242
This is it sisters! Cover is finished, this time for really real!

>> No.88308924

>>88307921
Have fun with your official government stamp of Hololive being a black company

>> No.88309277

>>88303935
What do you mean? /vt/'s goal is to cover this up

>> No.88309669

>>88305912
Why did Fubuki lie?

>> No.88310445

>>88307472
>On April 8, 2022, Cover ordered one subcontractor to create a 2D model for video use, and after receiving payment on the 18th of the same month
I thought you said they never paid one cent?

>> No.88310536

>>88310445
Not a single time in the reply chain was this ever claimed

>> No.88310842

>>88307344
>Could it be that Hololive is taking advantage of the artists for free labor?
>No, it must be the artist's fault

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>>88279372
>muh exposure

>> No.88311178

>>88269345
kek

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>>88269465
>picrel

>> No.88312287

>>88310954
Common line used by bootlickers

>> No.88312776

quick holobros how do we spin this????

maybe we should talk about it on the secret discord

>> No.88313949

>>88269242
Again?

>> No.88315551

>>88269242
Clicked this thread and ripped some really exquisite ass. I don't know if the two are related but somehow it was more satisfying to do it while I was in this thread. Thanks OP.

>> No.88316730

>>88315551
Hi CC.

>> No.88317234

>>88269242
i predict that nijisanji also has this issue..... oh wait they already did and still do so

>> No.88318078

>>88317234
>Confirmed case by the government of 243 accounts of Cover forcing artists to do free revisions
vs
>Random people on Twitter saying Selen didn't pay on time for her projects so it's Niji's fault when it was trendy

Holobrony projection

>> No.88318966

All JP companies are black companies, no exceptions

>> No.88319795

>>88269242
cover management seem genuinely incompetent, they always have from the start

I like the talents though

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